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brisk rain
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nice

solid sun
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Tome is very good

brisk rain
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ok so same shit as last season

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noted

steep pivot
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playin as prot, big artji?

brisk rain
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guild is dead, i cba looking for new one

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so its m+ only now in pve

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and m+ tanking > dpsing any day of the week

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more fun

steep pivot
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i never tanked before, i panic sommetimes, but im havin fun... the best part is gettin invited asap

brisk rain
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😄

steep pivot
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and arms is very bad xD

brisk rain
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i have a premade healer friend

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so we're chilling hard

steep pivot
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sweet... damn ill play now, later there will be maitance time so ill work when its on maintance xD

frigid valley
steep pivot
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hey how do u track violent outburst

sweet summit
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weak aura

steep pivot
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ok biggest erga ill look for it on wago

lofty glen
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top 40 tanks are 6 dh

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11 warrys

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so statisticly we win

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edgelords......

frosty mango
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There’s no negative

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For prot d stance is 15% dmg reduction and battle stance is 3% crit, there’s no negatives to either

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Like there is for dps specs

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Is anyone having frame hitching problems in manaforge? My fps doesn’t drop but it’s like the game slows down, like if you were to switch screens with background fps limited

gusty horizon
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anyone has any sort of resource for what spells we can reflect ? i noticed halls of atonement 3rd boss and miniboss for big dmg

undone beacon
frosty mango
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I’m getting it in some keys too, notice it mainly when the affix spawns

undone beacon
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Haven’t had an issues in keys, just here and there in raid

sharp merlin
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I laugh when Voracious Bite hits me, it's like.. that tickles, my mate who played Prot Pally in S1 would cry ahahah

frosty mango
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Praise torkal for updating his now I don’t need to go get all the icon ids

solid sun
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Awww so now I gotta switch

silent badger
undone beacon
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That’s a good trinket for Guardian Druid but prot doesn’t really have a reliable way to proc it

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It apparently doesn’t have the tank penalty applied to its damage though which is neat

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I’d farm one on the bear but then i have to do streets

silent badger
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was a bit curious since it gives me like around 100K dps upgrade in 704 starechamp

frosty mango
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I’m pretty sure it’s gonna get the tank penalty applied

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Like the other one did

silent badger
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ye i guess so

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i'll try to get my hands on one before just to try it but

cerulean olive
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I need a banger HOA route for +12 and onwards 👶

undone beacon
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I’d love to know what in the apl is set to proc it because afaik the only thing that counts as a ranged attack in our hit is heroic throw. Maybe ravager procs?

cerulean olive
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anyone can supply a little warrior with a nice route?

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been running this shit

frosty mango
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And can it proc

silent badger
frosty mango
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I really wish they would tag spells

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And abilities

silent badger
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ye with range and melee under the id of it

frosty mango
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Like obviously the game has that data so just put it in the damn tooltip

vivid spade
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why are the recommendations for priory to go north now? just looking at suggested routes to get ready for the pug life and noticed it

undone beacon
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does anyone have the id of the actual damage proc from Lightning Strikes?

trim island
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less spell nerds north

frosty mango
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And it makes the boss not have the dumb aoe pulse which was brutal on higher keys

fluid widget
frosty mango
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So as long as your dps can avoid the giant massive fire swirls on the boss that side is a much cleaner route

fluid widget
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I’m glad it’s working but 4 prio kicks seems painful

solid sun
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Or do you weave around them

rigid schooner
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question, did they fix codex trinket from streets? heard it was bugged on ptr

frosty mango
steep pivot
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hey big protections, how much of shield block uptime i should have w?

cerulean olive
trim island
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man I love challenging shout

solid sun
fluid widget
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those bolts were brutal for the 10 we did yesterday

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But yeah disrupting shout is nutty

undone beacon
# silent badger i legit have no idea, i was wondering if Ionizing strike and lightning strike ar...

Ionizing Strike is flagged as a 40yd ability, the Lightning Strikes talent has a self range tag so not sure. Ravager has a 40 yard range, whirling blades as a talent is set to self but obviously can proc in range, I'm assuming out to 40yds but i've never seen it throw past 30. So potentially Thane tier, Ravager/Whirling Blade, and Heroic Throw could be proccing the trinket. I'd imagine spear would count there as well.

silent badger
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So its working from our tier piece PAUSE

undone beacon
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Its not currently hit with the tank modifier which means that if it starts getting widespread use it def will be nerfed and will be C tier for us but

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So I wouldnt farm it out but if you get one it could be fun for a bit for ST

frosty mango
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Yeah not having tank mod imo is an oversight and they will bring the big blue bat out

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Fun detected fun detected

silent badger
undone beacon
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They hit my ticking sack with their big blue bat uwu

jagged pier
regal yarrow
remote tusk
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Champion's Spear but instead it chains targets to the Warrior and is a "ward" ability. i.e. it hits all targets in melee range of the Warrior. Can be a choice node with Champion's Spear ig.

undone beacon
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just macro champions spear to always drop at your feet ez

remote tusk
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Yeah helpful except for when you move 🙂

undone beacon
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moving is for chumps plant your feet and hit shield wall like a MAN

remote tusk
toxic pewter
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oh wow look at that vdh meta again.. who would of guessed

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the psy op worked like a charm once again

limpid lark
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Bois, is Beledar's bulwark worth crafting?

undone beacon
limpid lark
rancid tiger
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Spear must hit mobs though

steep pivot
regal yarrow
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No I don't

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2 piece

sharp merlin
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I can share you a really good weak aura which tells you shield is missing but also changes the icon to shield rush or whatever is the other ability to stun / put shield block up too

remote tusk
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Shield Charge

steep pivot
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ok i accept please

sharp merlin
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That’s the one!

remote tusk
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And only 55% uptime.. how much Haste do you have

steep pivot
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15k 34%

sharp merlin
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Yes, apart is right, you need enough haste to keep it up 100%

remote tusk
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Shield Block also increases your damage, since it buffs Shield Slam.

sharp merlin
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I also have the weak aura repeat the words: Shield!

So if I miss it, it’s good to tell you, I’ll share it when I’m home. But bare in mind it might be annoying when you’re in combat but doing a transition, like first boss dawn it’ll keep yelling at me despite me being on my mount

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How didn’t you get one shot with 55% uptime, holy crap 😂 healer must have been sweating it (but I dunno if 55% was across the entire dungeon or if it was just during your combat)

frosty mango
undone beacon
frosty mango
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You’re not using aoe execute talents as thane which is probably a massive loss of dps

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The wowhead guide has a listing of talent builds

idle copper
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Stupid question. There is one entrance for Taz Streets and Gambit??

undone beacon
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Correct

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Part of the same megadungeon

idle copper
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Bit confused then. How do you know which one to do please

undone beacon
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Technically there are two entrances but they lead to the same place

undone beacon
idle copper
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Trying to pre recce it so I don't look like an idiot when I joing a group :)

rough egret
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you can insert both in the same keystone thing right?

idle copper
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Ah ty

undone beacon
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You're good. Just make sure you confirm which wing of the dungeon it is

rough egret
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in taza

solid sun
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It’s helpful for Taz dungeons to put which wing you’re doing in the title

idle copper
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Ty

solid sun
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You’ll see some in the group finder that are bugged and labeled incorrectly

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And it isn’t the group leader doing it maliciously.

rough egret
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blizz stated its fixed 😄

idle copper
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One of themselves a Hard mode dungeon or that's something else?

solid sun
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Tazavesh as a whole as an m0 is hard mode

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Never as a keystone

idle copper
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Streets (m+) offers a mythic bit of gear if completed without dieing?

undone beacon
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Also chat am I cooked, I literally dreamed about doing M+ last night

idle copper
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Doesn't matter what level?

solid sun
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No

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That’s incorrect

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M+ and hard mode are separated

azure crag
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I have 4 piece. But I need hero gear to put the charges on

undone beacon
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oh wait i didnt read the M+ part

solid sun
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The deathless hard mode run is when you do the entirety of Tazavesh as an m0

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Which includes 8 bosses

undone beacon
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Yeah M+ you can die all you want, if you go in on M0 and do the "hard mode" you have to go deathless or you lose the chance at mythic gear for the week. All 8 bosses no death

idle copper
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Ty

frosty mango
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You still get heroic gear tho in the hard mode right?

solid sun
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I’m fairly sure each boss drops hero track gear

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And if you do it deathless you get the additional myth track piece

blazing shuttle
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Yep.

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Hero gear on all bosses.

solid sun
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Speaking of taz am I griefing people in streets? I stand back so I can charge the first group but the rest of the party always crowds them before they activate and somebody gets clapped as I charge in

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Am I alone in witnessing this

undone beacon
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People are just dumb and/or dont know the dungeon yet

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Its like in halls where people are supposed to not cross a certain line at the start so the two running adds dont run in

frosty mango
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If they’re standing there that’s their fault

solid sun
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Okie dokes

rough egret
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they will learn the hard way

solid sun
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Easycontent has been typing for five minutes. We’re about to get a fantastic story

sterile orbit
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so i got 4p now and im spamming 10s as thane and i feel like brutal vitality doesn't do anything since im just dumping my rage on ignore pain its like always at the max shield amount (way more then when i played col) has anyone tried fbv? kinda curious if it would feel better

rough egret
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but, if you by accident get some angryboi there, he might ragequit the party

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bad tank! 😄

rough egret
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because you dont burn rage on IP there but on execute

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which will fill up the tank of IP

sterile orbit
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ya thats like the only thing that i would why to keep brutal vitality

true yoke
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I got shield of second boss in hero!! which else craft could u recommend me?

undone beacon
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shield

rough egret
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I recomend you wait for next vault

rough egret
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and then craft both shield and weap, depends what you get in vault

silent badger
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btw do you need to do gambit and streets separatly or u can just run Tazavesh keys and get the shared loot table

undone beacon
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seperate loot tables

silent badger
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tyty

gusty horizon
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whats everyone crafting ?

undone beacon
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Shields or waiting for first vault

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A 720 shield is a HUGE early season boost

rough egret
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it is, but where are we runing? 😄

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ppl are doing 10s in S2 gear

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not everyone ofc

undone beacon
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A big shield is a huge boost at any skill level :P

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Whether you're doing 2s or 10s shield is your most important piece

rough egret
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im not saying its not, surely its more than fine to craft shield this week and weapon next week

undone beacon
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Thats my plan, unless I get a wep in vault

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If I get three myth shields in vault thats the universe spitting on me and I'll unsub so

rough egret
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Imagine Dawnbreaker mace there :))

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Woth speed

undone beacon
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Would be very nice indeed

drowsy shale
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crafted shield probs wait to see if i snag a MH from M first couple bosses tbh

undone beacon
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im gonna be quirky and craft the beledar shield and the sanctified steps

zenith cosmos
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Can I call out a shit prot warr fotm reroller here? 0 ignore pains, lets me die to agro, spamming whirlwind at start of floodgate, 2 pulls in a row sadge

granite pond
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That foot bomb delve trinket seems to always come with speed now - I randomly looted one with 2200 or so speed, 15% just from 1 trinket. Shame it’s terrible cause zoom zoom

undone beacon
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dunno what you want us to do about it other than go, damn that sucks

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next time record it to make a funny gif plz

zenith cosmos
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:lmao

frigid valley
zenith cosmos
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i wish I was streaming to clip it

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He then wrote "3.4 teaching me btw" while he was like 30 points higher than me last season

undone beacon
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We need prot warr rep in the silly tank gifs

undone beacon
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obviously not well

zenith cosmos
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as in, he was calling me out for flaming him

granite pond
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We could shut down the discord like the ret pallys did

zenith cosmos
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while he was 30 points higher acting like he was miles better

undone beacon
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OHH i misinterpreted

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thats even better

azure crag
frigid valley
zenith cosmos
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buddy hadn't even crafted the epic fiber for his cloak

granite pond
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He just falls over like he’s giving up

zenith cosmos
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thats the best

undone beacon
granite pond
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Amazing lol

undone beacon
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I made it to the big leagues

undone beacon
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thats the syn slide lmao

zenith cosmos
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you guys remember the youtube video of the dh PoV in cinder

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where they hunt in and insta die and blame healer or whatever

frigid valley
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sounds like every dh tbh

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gotta be more specific

trim island
undone beacon
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It made my morning to hear about that

warm plinth
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What happened to ret pally

silver skiff
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They quit

blazing ridge
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bro I am sweating like crazy on these flood trash pulls dots ticking up to 25 or 30 pull over, I am slowly reaching zero HP and my healers looking at me: Whats wrong mate? XD

waxen quartz
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Anyone know if we get anyone catalyst charge next week?

sharp gale
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we do

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it's every 2 weeks

waxen quartz
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That’s awesome, so max will be three charges next week?

sharp gale
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with 2k/aotc one, yes

waxen quartz
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Thanks!

warm plinth
rough egret
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But if we get 1 charge this week, that means next is not next week , but week after

warm plinth
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Even had a pull fully end and we're moving to the next pull, took the guy like 5 seconds after combat was over to be like hey maybe I should dispel the tank

warm plinth
lusty grotto
wispy moth
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I dit it because dunno when I'll be able to get it in hm

lusty grotto
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On topic shearchip floor pov

rough egret
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Next week is spark week

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Week after is catalyst week

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And so on

solid sun
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Wait ret paladins quit?

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Are they on strike?

lusty grotto
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Arms should do that

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Ret never quit cause boomers like me like em

rough egret
lusty grotto
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That'd be impossible to coordinate

azure crag
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The ret paladin in my guild straight up cannot find groups outside of our guild runs.
People will not take that man, even though he's our best dps

lusty grotto
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I took a couple yesterday

solid sun
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Wait lmao

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They really are on strike. Just read their message

lusty grotto
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Where the arms strike

azure crag
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I'm on blood strike
gimme back abom limb you bastards

toxic pewter
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yea thats wild to see rets cry when arms soldiering on

azure crag
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blood strike sounds like an attack name

lusty grotto
undone beacon
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Yeah pretty sure next week is a craft, and then week after that is a charge

lusty grotto
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Feelsbadman

azure crag
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Oh god

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poor arms, damn

undone beacon
solid sun
toxic pewter
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LOL

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i read that first sentence and actually spit my coffee out

lusty grotto
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They on strike but arms even lower

warm plinth
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Wait wait wait

toxic pewter
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that must be a joke right

warm plinth
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Do they actually think closing a class discord's spec channels will somehow convince blizzard to do something?

toxic pewter
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ya

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
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they are past the point of delusion

warm plinth
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Why would they care lmao

coarse kernel
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Not a joke, that dude is the Ret class writer on Wowhead

lavish vector
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do i wanna have ignore pain like capped as much as possible?

warm plinth
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That is crazy shit

lavish vector
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like all my rage is just going on ignore pain

azure crag
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....is it cause arms can go fury?
If you picked paladin, you're only choice for dps is ret

toxic pewter
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XD

undone beacon
warm plinth
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We do not aim to cap Ignore Pain, but we do not avoid overcapping Ignore Pain either. It's a rage dump.

lusty grotto
lavish vector
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ah okay, that's what I was doing but some guy flamed me in dungeon a healer was like "under 7mil ignore pain all fight"

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but I swear it caps at 5 mil anyway

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so I just started using ignore pain way more

lusty grotto
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Redditor

lavish vector
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but it feels like i'm just constnatly running out of rage

lusty grotto
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That guy is wrong

warm plinth
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You have logs?

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
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this the funniest part of that wall of text

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XD

lusty grotto
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Big no no to starve

warm plinth
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You're doing something wrong, but I doubt it's explicitly that you're not pressing IP enough.

lavish vector
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let me see if I can find them

undone beacon
coarse kernel
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Revenge spamming too much?

lusty grotto
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BTW gang

lavish vector
toxic pewter
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OMG LOL

lusty grotto
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I'm starting the farm today

lavish vector
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i'm veyr new to this so I'm doing lots wrong I think

lusty grotto
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FYI

lavish vector
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1 sec let me find l,og

undone beacon
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oh shit here we go

warm plinth
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Oh I already got tome yesterday

lusty grotto
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Make your bets

warm plinth
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jkjk

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I think it will take 14 runs

undone beacon
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7

lusty grotto
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I was about to unfriend you ghash

undone beacon
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i believe in u nim

warm plinth
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lolol

royal mist
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Do we have a list of exactly where all these shields are. I mean first boss is obvious.

toxic pewter
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ngl that post just confirmed all the people that said rets are truly delusional

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twenty years

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finally confirmed

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100% its done

lusty grotto
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I mean they aren't wrong

toxic pewter
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cant come back from that

undone beacon
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ret is over party shut it down 86 the discord no discussion

toxic pewter
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oh they are definitely wrong

lusty grotto
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They are just not the worst

toxic pewter
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you dont carry on like this

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this is wild

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LOL

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thats as wrong as you get

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tbh

lusty grotto
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Why not, boomies do it and look at them last season

toxic pewter
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yeah thats why they dont get any respect either

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rets and boomies

undone beacon
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Its fine to be salty that your spec is underperforming but to throw a tantrum as a "community leader" is silly

toxic pewter
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they get less respect than rodney dangerfield

lusty grotto
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They got insta meta status by simply boomy-bitching

lusty grotto
undone beacon
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Survival hunters have been vibing away at the bottom of the charts for a while now and their discord is sunshine and rainbows

toxic pewter
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yeah i cant deny if this actually gets rets buffed ill lose it LOL

toxic pewter
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I know u play pala

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i give u a pass

lusty grotto
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Nimchipadin about to unfriend apb

toxic pewter
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the rest tho no

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LOL

lusty grotto
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OK ok u safe

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Good save

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To be fair I'm probably gonna play holy this season lol

toxic pewter
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we should shut down arms

lusty grotto
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Agreed

coarse kernel
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Am I opening my vault as prot this week praying for a Tome or is it not worth the risk?

fluid widget
toxic pewter
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rename it legs officially

undone beacon
lusty grotto
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Ya same

undone beacon
lusty grotto
warm plinth
solid sun
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And arguably even past that right

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For tome

warm plinth
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Yeah, realistically haha.

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I guess you take the risk of getting a codex and thinking hey maybe I'll equip it for a minute, and then it looks way better than it is and you then you enter your era of telling everyone how great it is and then people start to flood into skyhold and ask why we shit on codex and we have to tell them that it looks good but is not good and our hair slowly gets grayer and grayer and we lose hope and abandon our dreams and slowly sink into madness and despair.

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But yeah, you should be in prot loot spec

lavish vector
fluid widget
lavish vector
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so how I was playing in that ara kara for example will be the same

warm plinth
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Ok so

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You are playing Mountain Thane as if it is Colossus

solid sun
wicked stream
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@strong forum - what should we aim for when it comes to raw stats for Crit and haste before we hit diminishing returns.

warm plinth
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You are vastly underpressing Shield Slam. You are wasting an absolute metric ton of rage. And yeah, tbh, you are underpressing IP (which is why you're wasting all the rage).

lavish vector
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so basically press shield slam way more, then revenge then ignore pain to avoid cap?

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can I show u today for reference actually, so basically what i'm doing now

shrewd grove
lavish vector
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this is today

warm plinth
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You will press a ton of IP as thane because you have to. You have 15 casts of revenge per minute, which is literally where colossus is. And you're still wasting a buttload of rage. Revenge is your lowest priority as thane because you press TC/TB a lot more.

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You won't have enough GCDs available to dump rage with Revenge

lavish vector
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I see

coarse kernel
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ABC - Always Be Clappin'

warm plinth
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This is the one you just posted

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See all that stuff in the wasted column?

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That's very bad

lavish vector
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so it's mainly that I need to keep IP up for the 50% dmg reduction rather than worrying abt capping it

undone beacon
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aw man they brought the servers down to do some kind of fixing and now my plater is busted

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2/10 game

warm plinth
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No

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Stop worrying about IP uptime

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I don't even track IP

warm plinth
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Worry about your rage bar

lavish vector
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alright makes sense

warm plinth
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If it's capped,, or going to go over the cap the next time you press a shield slam or a TC/TB, then you press IP

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During CDs, that will be a lot

lavish vector
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fair enough think I just got thrown off bc like the healer complained abt low IP, then my friend said like yeah you are making it hard on the healer with that

mighty valley
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just start pressing IP at roughly 70 rage or above to start with

warm plinth
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Like you will just naturally have a ton of IP with proper play; there's no need to even think about it

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especially as thane since you drown in rage in that spec

lavish vector
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one of the big things though is I just gotta not waste so much rage on revenge

true yoke
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how do u track and get ready for tankbusters in raid? is here some weakaura? or how?

coarse kernel
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Boss timers

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DBM/BigWigs

mighty valley
warm plinth
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You're just...not pressing shield block

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Like

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at all

lavish vector
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tbh I stopped doing that bc all my rage is going on IP

coarse kernel
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No

warm plinth
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Ignore Pain is not our main mitigation and I don't give a shit how many people say it is

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Shield Block is the thing you want to be at 100% uptime, or as close as you can get it.

lusty grotto
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Ala reddit

coarse kernel
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Blocking is your main mitigation

lusty grotto
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I blame reddit

warm plinth
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If you're being hit, Shield Block should be up

coarse kernel
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if you have rage, and you have a charge of Shield Block

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press that shit

lusty grotto
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Nah

warm plinth
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Even if you're not, it should still be up if it will be up when you need it (and it will with proper play), because you get damage from it too.

lusty grotto
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Just track it

undone beacon
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i only hit the buttons that light up, sorry

warm plinth
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Like the log from today, you were literally pressing it less than 1 time per minute.

lusty grotto
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We know pash

lavish vector
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I was using it more before I started fixated on this idea of IP, it did feel wrong

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hence me asking here

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this is all good to know though

lusty grotto
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You got reddited

warm plinth
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Yeah, even the old log you were only pressing it a few times a minute

coarse kernel
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Yeah, unlearn what you just learned

toxic pewter
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How do i call disband in m+

lavish vector
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yeah still figuring things out, first time tanking in retail

lusty grotto
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WE DON'T KNOW

shrewd grove
warm plinth
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Please don't take any of this personally though. I genuinely just want to help you get better; I don't mean it to come off rude

toxic pewter
#

damn

lavish vector
warm plinth
#

I just spit out the bullet points as I find them

lavish vector
#

I thinK I got a better idea of how to approach it next dungeon

hard cipher
#

Some people dont want to get better, it is what it is

warm plinth
#

The fact you're here in this discord puts you miles above the folks who just trundle along ignorantly bricking keys left and right

#

with no thought that it might be them

lavish vector
#

yeah I wanna actually get good but I can't sit through vids too well, too adhd brained so I kinda have to learn from ppl and practice

coarse kernel
#

Having the balls to post a log in a class discord is also a good sign that you're teachable

warm plinth
#

The one other tip I'd want you to work on is cooldown usage. Demo Shout, Avatar, Thunderous Roar, Shield Charge, all should be used on cooldown

lusty grotto
#

I mean why wouldn't you want to post logs

lavish vector
#

yeah I think sometimes with that it's just newly learning dungeons as tank, so sometimes i'm focusing on route or pack gathering and miss the cd

coarse kernel
#

People get scared of getting flamed for being bad

lavish vector
#

the more experience I think that should resolve itself

undone beacon
warm plinth
#

Yeah, I feel that

#

I do that sometimes too

undone beacon
#

and/or people dont log or dont know how to

lusty grotto
#

Is that a thing? People being scared of posting them? It's the only way we can know exactly what's going on

lavish vector
#

I think once the routes are muscle memory they'll be cd every time

undone beacon
#

I've suggested to multiple guildies to take logs to class discords and they refuse out of fear of judgement and im like

#

yeah im fuckin judging you rn, grey parser

coarse kernel
#

it's also certain class discords that ruin it for people

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

Any lurkers in here worried about being judged, post your logs. Hit settings at the top and click anonymous mode, then copy the link. No one will know who you are.

coarse kernel
#

you ever see anyone post a log in the Boomie discord?

hard cipher
#

How the fuck are you supposed to get better if not posting logs and people guiding what to improve

#

Holy fuck

coarse kernel
#

least helpful people you'll ever meet on wow

lavish vector
#

tbh like, i'm new so I know i'm ass at prot but u gotta be ass before ur good

warm plinth
#

All we will see is Player 1, Player 2, Player 3, etc

lavish vector
#

no shame in being ass at smth ur new at

lusty grotto
#

💯

undone beacon
#

speaking of boomie logs, our boomie grey parse all three hero bosses we killed last night and i dont even know where to start with helping him

warm plinth
#

For what it's worth, I also am ass at pwar. I know what to do; doing it is a different story keks

lavish vector
#

yeah tbh I just completely lack the knowledge, idk if i'm dumb but sometimes someone telling me processes way easier than reading a prio list on wowhead

#

I guess I just find it easier to identify and correct mistakes, than to effectively know how to do well from the start

#

I kinda reverse engineer something to know how to do it, by checking what's going wrong

warm plinth
#

Eh, I think it's more common than you might think. Sometimes you just gotta do it to get an idea of what it looks like for you, then find out what you did wrong

#

I can't learn raid mechanics until I see them. I tune the fuck out during that pre-pull explanation because my brain can't focus on that kind of thing

coarse kernel
#

Very few people will get mad at you if you identify an issue and then try to fix it

#

It's when you assume you're doing nothing wrong, that's when people are justified in flaming you to hell

lavish vector
#

tbh I always try and assume there's smth I could do better anyway, I think assuming ur doing nothing wrong closes urself off to improvements and even if ur already good at smth usually u can still improve something

coarse kernel
#

You'd be surprised at how pervasive the attitude of "I'm the tank, I'm right" can be

warm plinth
#

Well you got some good info here, so see if you can put it in practice, then when you get more logs, you can bring them back and we can see how you're doing. ezpz

lavish vector
#

hell yeah sounds good

#

thanks for the help guys

warm plinth
#

any time

solid sun
#

It can be pretty iffy posting logs. I know tons of people who don’t tank because of tank anxiety and posting logs to a class discord can hit a lot of the same notes

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

I'm such a child. I cackled so hard

fair beacon
#

yo, got a question. remember others seasons there was this ring craft bug, where you crafted it max ilvl, wore it both slots, then recrafted it and the system thought you had two max ilvl rings so you could free upgrade the rest?

undone beacon
#

You're either an Anxious Tank or and Ego Tank and theres no inbetween

warm plinth
#

I vaguely remember this, yes

undone beacon
#

Inside of you there are two wolves

undone beacon
warm plinth
#

I'm the definition of anxious tank until I get comfy with a dungeon. Should've heard me having full-blown panic attacks in voice yesterday doing Ara-Kara and Dawnbreaker for like my 2nd time keks

lusty grotto
#

Neither does the weapon swap etc

solid sun
undone beacon
#

I just go "hey guys still working out kinks on this route" and when I fuck up I go "whoops im bad lol" and life is good

warm plinth
undone beacon
#

I did a Dawn yesterday where on second boss I targeted an add instead of the boss during slam and I couldnt charge back in and pulled the courtyard pat kek

undone beacon
#

Was just like "lol fuck me my b" and then we still 2-chested it cuz it was a 7 lol

lusty grotto
#

Bro that's such a cheap shot from the dude

#

Ngl

#

How dare you do your trainer hand thing for a kick in the bear jewels

solid sun
#

I’ll be all happy and nice at the beginning of the dungeon and then I start to go right in priory in a 4 and some havoc dh will start shitting on my route and instantly it’s impossible for me to be wrong about anything the rest of the run

coarse kernel
#

My key is an +8 Streets and I haven't done that yet this season but I'm getting anxiety based on everyone talking about how overtuned that place is right now

grizzled nova
lusty grotto
#

It's week 1 though

smoky pollen
#

Simply run the key

lusty grotto
#

If you don't time it's np

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

Still getting crests and loot

coarse kernel
#

that's 3% crit you're wasting

lusty grotto
#

Good memeing

undone beacon
#

only 4 AMZs do better

lusty grotto
#

Lurkers: be on dstance like him, they are memeing

grizzled nova
# undone beacon yessir

yeah mine is giga busted as well, anything that was given a highlight color has a black bar with a green background and every other color is just green

coarse kernel
#

We are, be in DStance

solid sun
#

It looks like you don’t know what any of your abilities do because you’re asking to be taught what they all are

lusty grotto
#

Lurkers: battle stance not worth in keys unless you severely out gear it and/or are in raid and not actively tanking

undone beacon
#

Only minor thing i feel like noting is that theres a new healing potion you can replace your Algari Healing Pots with

solid sun
#

89 executes is def too few. We need three digit executes at least

lusty grotto
#

I'm not getting those until I run out of my 600 algari pots tbf

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

So I'm assuming Ghash is in the same spot

undone beacon
#

Fair enough

lusty grotto
#

100 you say??

undone beacon
#

I pawned all mine off on the AH to unsuspecting fools

warm plinth
#

Fools!

warm plinth
#

I only buy 100 of anything at once haha

undone beacon
#

Went to our guild crafter and said “pots for me pwetty pwease 👉👈🥺” and got a nice 200 R3 of new ones

solid sun
#

100 wow tokens

warm plinth
#

I accidentally bought 20,000 of something in Legion; can't remember what it was, some consumable

#

I was begging people to take them from me the rest of the expansion

undone beacon
#

Hey you’re the Lost Sole guy aren’t you

lusty grotto
#

Are pausing pylons still 20k each in NA?

undone beacon
#

./s

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

I was fucking losing it last night

undone beacon
#

They’re 80 gold a pop on Zul’jin at least rn

lusty grotto
#

Idk why it's so funny to me

warm plinth
solid sun
#

What’s a pausing pylon

lusty grotto
#

They were all 20k last night

grizzled nova
# undone beacon yessir

Blizzard fucked transparency in the patch, some GUI elements with transparency show up as green now.

solid sun
#

Oh nevermind

undone beacon
#

Sometimes someone buys them all out and tries to scalp people and it’s always kinda funny ngl

warm plinth
#

I didn't know that existed, but that's a neat item

undone beacon
#

They do the same with auto-hammers, I’ve seen those bad boys spike

lusty grotto
#

Yeah they were goblining them hard lmao

undone beacon
#

I use pausing pylons a ton between keys lol

#

Esp while lugging

#

Pugging* fuck mobile

warm plinth
#

well I'm not doing that right now. 487g is wild

coarse kernel
#

I consistently forget that thing exists

lusty grotto
#

we were waiting on someone in the raid and I was like "OK my time to help out as a trial member, let me buy a pausing pylons and drop it.... Oh lmao"

warm plinth
#

What does it do exactly? Just refresh the duration?

solid sun
#

Little potty break pausy pylon action

coarse kernel
#

pauses your consumables

lusty grotto
coarse kernel
#

so they don't rot

solid sun
#

It stops the duration from ticking down

warm plinth
#

Ohhh

#

So it's like if you're just hanging out til next week

#

next week wtf

#

next key

solid sun
#

Lmfao

heavy sparrow
solid sun
#

Homie in Diagonal for a full week pausing it up

undone beacon
#

Yeah, or during breaks on raid or something

warm plinth
#

Listen sometimes I'm stopping a while to listen

lusty grotto
#

Yeah it's great on raid breaks

coarse kernel
warm plinth
#

Lorewalker Cho got some stories

solid sun
#

“I don’t raid log. I stay logged in”

heavy sparrow
warm plinth
#

Pretty sure that's permanent

solid sun
#

Battlefield 6 has destroyed my squad

ashen kestrel
#

we making progress 😎

+10 flood, 688 ilvl

warm plinth
#

Since it's supposed to be like a leveling thing primarily

solid sun
#

I was really expecting everyone to be excited for keys and shit for at least a week

lusty grotto
#

Place your bets priory spam begins tonight as soon as I get home from the office!

solid sun
#

Dudes already peacing out for bf

#

Kinda sad

lusty grotto
#

Reminder it was 49 runs last season

smoky pollen
#

I mean

#

Battlefield is pretty gooood

lusty grotto
warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

I want to bf6

heavy sparrow
smoky pollen
#

My main m+ partner has 100%ed the beta, all guns maxed, all challenges done etc.

solid sun
coarse kernel
warm plinth
#

Yeah

solid sun
#

Kinda expect it to happen again this weekend

coarse kernel
#

I wanna play Thane but I don't got the 4pc and the damage diff is crazy noticeable

warm plinth
#

I have enough pieces for 4pc but more charges pls daddy blizz

solid sun
#

Limited maps and modes. Not because it’s just boring

strong forum
#

but that aside, diminishing returns for crit hit at 21000 i think?

lusty grotto
#

Yup

warm plinth
#

Yeah

cerulean olive
#

Visiting #arms makes my sides orbit keks

warm plinth
#

and 19800 for haste

ashen kestrel
heavy sparrow
#

Can confirm @21k crit diminishing returns

warm plinth
#

Yep, that's exactly where I'm at too

strong forum
#

damn im good at my job

warm plinth
#

two charges, 1 tier, sounds like a 90s internet video

heavy sparrow
#

Can't remember what add on it is that rells me

#

Tells me when I hover over the stat (shows like a blue bar)

coarse kernel
#

I have 2pc in bags and 2 charges but idk if I wanna burn it all right now in the event I get Myth track on Tues

warm plinth
#

Yeah I know the addon but I'm drawing a blank on the name

strong forum
#

wait for vault

warm plinth
#

It's like Advanced something

strong forum
#

you aint gonna NEED 4pc week 1

#

lmao

warm plinth
#

Or it's not

heavy sparrow
warm plinth
#

I NEED IT NOME

strong forum
#

like wtf are you gonna do with tierset this week other than gloat

#

nuffin

warm plinth
#

That's all we need to be able to do Nome

#

Gloat

undone beacon
#

Do big thane things habibi

solid sun
#

… gloat

lusty grotto
#

But muh parses

coarse kernel
#

TClap

solid sun
#

See Doot and me are the same

coarse kernel
#

I'm gunna TClap

undone beacon
#

this is the only time in the season i have the chance to parse okay

#

this is my time

#

i need this

heavy sparrow
#

My arms buddy self accepted he's D tier and sticking with a 3 set bonus and doesn't care about the 4 set

strong forum
warm plinth
#

👢 🍵 👏

undone beacon
#

boot soup clap

solid sun
#

Shoe soup clap

warm plinth
#

We can't all be Jakey

#

Or Sense

#

Or someone else that's not Nome because I wanna meme more

strong forum
#

i recently broke my 4 month streak of not logging in to e-peen compare mount collection with friends

solid sun
#

Stomp soup clap?

strong forum
lusty grotto
#

Ooooh

#

How many mounts

strong forum
#

is not about how many

heavy sparrow
#

I need a better logging add on cause I don't wanna do it manually everytime I enter a key

strong forum
#

is about rare ones

lusty grotto
#

True

strong forum
#

i was mostly checking how many tcg ones i had

lusty grotto
#

I love my s2 glad drake and my undying proto

strong forum
#

fuck you

lusty grotto
#

And my og zg raptor

strong forum
#

ok that one i dont care about

#

but s1-s4 glad mount

#

is PEAK

warm plinth
strong forum
#

best one is s3

heavy sparrow
#

I'm satisfied with my glory of the cataclysmic raider guild mount

strong forum
#

vengeful netherdrake

lusty grotto
#

I wish I had the zg tiger instead sometimes

warm plinth
#

I don't think I have anything special

lusty grotto
#

Orange looks so good

warm plinth
#

I have turtles but those are still obtainable

strong forum
#

only cool thing i have is undying title

coarse kernel
#

I love my MoP CM Phoenixs

undone beacon
#

Unarmored TBC Wyvern. Tawny. Doesnt get more peak than that

lusty grotto
#

And proto drake don't forget!

strong forum
#

i dont have the protodrake

strong forum
#

only title

lusty grotto
#

But how

solid sun
#

I have the 3k mount from last season

strong forum
#

cuz

warm plinth
#

There's only one title I've gone out of my way to get

heavy sparrow
strong forum
#

uhh

solar forum
warm plinth
#

And it's the weirdest shit ever that makes no sense to go after

lusty grotto
#

Pretty sure you have it if you have the title

warm plinth
lusty grotto
undone beacon
#

I did the Party Herald grind when it was current cuz how silly is that

#

I wanna be the Party Herald

strong forum
#

i didnt do glory of the raider

warm plinth
#

Ready for this sick title that I grinded for two days to get?!

undone beacon
#

I love this

lusty grotto
#

Ohhh

strong forum
#

we accidentally got undying

#

cuz we 9 manned the 10 man raid

#

cuz we couldnt find the 10th

strong forum
#

so we did 2 cheevos at once

#

but i never did glory runs

#

and i didnt find out until SL that undying was a rare title

#

xd

frigid valley
undone beacon
#

just dont die 4head

rough egret
#

I wonder how many golds theese guys get

frigid valley
#

if it werent for flame leviathan trash + boss i wouldnt skip

#

but that shit is shit

rough egret
#

Yeah

#

But was worth for me, got hero helm rdy to be catalyzed

#

But so far 0tier

#

Need to try luck in HC raid

frigid valley
#

3/4 chars got cloak xdd

#

4th got belt

#

love it

rough egret
#

😄

warm plinth
#

Anyone know of a bug (or possibly intended counter) with the telekinetic onslaught on last boss of halls? Referring to the aoe that happens right before ritual of woe when he pushes the statues out. It seems to just...randomly not happen sometimes, or sometimes only pulses one statue

blazing ridge
warm plinth
nocturne spindle
#

they do just kinda fucking come from everything in that place

#

annoying as fuck

mighty valley
#

is anyone else's plater doing weird shit today

warm plinth
#

Yes

#

Not mine, but I've seen others complaining about it

#

@mighty valley from one of the devs of plater

mighty valley
#

Got it

warm plinth
#

And mine is doing it; I just didn't realize you had to click on the nameplate to see it lol

mighty valley
#

yeah just noticed this missing element on details too

main thistle
#

Guys in m+ dawnbreaker how many % do i have to have before boarding the last ship for the last boss?

warm plinth
main thistle
true yoke
#

Hey guys, quick q, if i get brand of the raid, but in normal (trinket brand champion) is better than arakara trinket + peacemaker hero boths? or how do u recommend me to choose t

fluid widget
#

I know it’s a cop out answer but it’ll be your best advice

wary quail
#

How hard is prot? Looks like only blood and Bear are falling off and I want to try season on tank. I hate DH with my guts so I'm left with warr, pal and monk not sure which one would be best to pick up as former dps smooth brain

fluid widget
#

Pretty easy to do!

#

Maintain shield block 100%, maintain ignore pain secondarily, generate rage with shield slam, and then thunderclap, use revenge according to spec. Send CDs as needed

undone beacon
#

Prot really isn’t that hard, especially as thane. Keep shield block up, hit shield slam every time you can, smack thunder blast, hit Ignore Pain to not cap rage, and don’t let shit get behind you

fluid widget
#

Don’t forget to vibe

wary quail
#

Not sure about amount of buttons on pal and monk haven't check yet but damn there are so many buttons on prot kinda scarry

fluid widget
#

Prot and monk have utility

#

We have just cc to worry about using

undone beacon
sweet girder
#

quick question, do we go 2/2 for tier

undone beacon
sweet girder
#

okie

#

3 piece so qq

solid sun
#

If you have low ilvl on your s2 stuff it might be worth it to sim

#

And as always, be sure to wrap your reshii

nocturne spindle
#

dont forget to put hamstring back on your bars for murlocks

fluid widget
nocturne spindle
#

just put it where your spell block keybind was

jagged gust
#

Hahaha just read about the ret discord crashout

pallid turret
#

At what point to we replace the delve belt?

jagged gust
#

When something else sims better

solid cargo
#

Probably anything higher ilvl I imagine if it's similar to the ring last season.

solid sun
#

Is everyone sending it down the left side in gambit’s murlok area

#

Hop down the ledge and hit everything to the left in whatever way you can manage and keep it moving

#

I think like one giant and maybe a couple packs to your right as you continue down that side

candid cove
nocturne spindle
#

ive gone right to try it out

#

it feels like you have to do more pulls

restive oak
#

last night idiot ret rolled brand of ceaseless ire and won it when im main tank, me madge

mighty valley
#

smh... ret paladins are supposed to be on strike...

#

took your trinket AND they're a scab

nocturne spindle
#

why were they in prot spec lol

#

or were you in fury spec so it was offspec roll

restive oak
#

cuz "he wants to tank"

#

he's a dick we should have booted a year ago in reality :p

shell fern
#

guys what r the BiS trinkets for proc this season?

#

I cant find it on Icy veins

#

neither wow head

nocturne spindle
#

wowhead guide has all the things

lusty grotto
#

Wowhead bis gear area

nocturne spindle
#

uhh

#

scroll down

warm plinth
shell fern
#

ahhh i see nvm...

#

thank u so much all!

stark grail
#

Is anyones mdt bugged rn? Filled with green squares

mighty valley
stark grail
#

ahh okay, just making sure it wasnt just a me thing

#

thanks!

lavish vector
#

my keys in general my past two

#

felt like they went better

#

anything pre priory was old stuff

#

before asking here

frosty mango
#

Also wasted a lot of rage

lavish vector
#

yeah i'm still bad at that

frosty mango
#

Need to be cranking ignore pain or execute to spend it

lavish vector
#

yeah still not got the full feel for the ebb and flow of rage regeneration

#

sometimes the amount I produce catches me a bit off guard

mighty valley
#

Blocking is better than previous but you're still taking a lot of unblocked hits... your sb uptime is better now so you're probably getting hit in the back a ton

lavish vector
#

yeah can work on that too

#

learning positioning and stuff

#

it's actually great being able to have stuff I can know to work on

undone beacon
#

Backpedaling is your friend! Don’t be afraid to walk backwards and let mobs fan out in front of you

jade hazel
#

I’m being asked to raid. Haven’t touched prot since last season. Have a crafted shield and sword at like 681 or whatever should I go ahead and craft a shield or sword as an upgrade going in?

#

Or just send it

nocturne spindle
#

Normal?

#

681 is fine

jade hazel
#

Yeah then into heroic hopefully

#

Okay awesome

nocturne spindle
#

Raid boss tickle us as far as melee attacks go

jade hazel
#

Okay just didn’t want to be griefing with a bad ilvl shield or something

undone beacon
#

Only time I’ve been scared in heroic so far is when I kept ripping off my offtank on Soulbinder and had like 16 stacks

frosty mango
#

Dimensius is unkind to tanks

undone beacon
#

He felt fine on normal but

#

If only we had spell block smh

nocturne spindle
#

So annoying not being able to walk 5 feet away from him

#

Lol

undone beacon
#

That scared the SHIT out of me at first

nocturne spindle
#

Hey his hitbox so smol

lusty grotto
#

Speaking of small hitboxes

#

Have you heard of mothspider

solid sun
#

I tanked the second boss almost entirely by myself

#

That was pretty neat

lusty grotto
#

This raid has way too many fucking small hit boxes for sure

#

That dumb mothspider makes me cry as a melee

solid sun
#

Are you using one handers as fury

#

Because if so they may not reach as well

#

:)

lusty grotto
#

Hell no

#

oh

#

Yeah except it happens to everyone else

#

It's a real sadge for melee

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

Dimensius himself has a pretty fucking weird hitbox for his size

frosty mango
#

Boss the size of stormwind tiny fucking hitbox

lusty grotto
#

"Hey let me melee on my side, oh I'm literally 1 step from the edge"

mighty valley
#

gotta stay real close. but don't go too close or you die

lusty grotto
#

Also maximum charge/hunt/felblade trolling due to the dumb hitbox

#

Pixel perfect max melee range

solid sun
#

Is he really big? He seemed super small when I saw people fighting him on platforms

frosty mango
#

“SCOLD ME NOW, IM SIX STEPS FROM THE EDGE AND IM MISSIN, MAY BE SIX STEPS, BUT I CANT DO THAT NOWWWWW”

mighty valley
#

LMAO people are clowning on the ret paladins

solid sun
#

Does he grow in size when you dragon ride or something?

lusty grotto
#

1st phase rhino

#

Other way around

solid sun
#

Gotcha

solid sun
frosty mango
#

I was trying to play fistweave on that fight bc hot build is dooky and it’s impossible, you’re never I. Range of anything

lusty grotto
#

The blizzard caster bias continues

#

You thought melee issues couldn't get any worse, here comes the tiny hitboxes

solid sun
#

I assume forgeweaver isn’t liked by casters? The black hole phase seems like it’d be annoying

lusty grotto
#

Bro I was in tears last night

#

On that phase

mighty valley
lusty grotto
#

"hey why didn't we spatial paradox" lmaooooooo

solid sun
#

lol

lusty grotto
#

My phone can't autocorrect properly today

chilly brook
#

Dimensius hitbox only sucks when you have to soak

jolly crystal
#

Am I mad or did spell reflecting the root on the last boss of Ara Kara used to clear it?

chilly brook
#

but it should be bigger

solid sun
#

I know our shadow priest was livid when he found out there was a black hole phase

#

We killed the boss and he was like absolutely never again

frosty mango
chilly brook
#

no reason to

frosty mango
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You can just leap out tho

chilly brook
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leap bis

lusty grotto
solid sun
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I couldn’t figure out the timing so I used puddles

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It was embarrassing

jolly crystal
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I have been leaping, but I did get caught on a run earlier but I remember being able to clear root

solid sun
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My boots got ruined

jolly crystal
chilly brook
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like the big pull

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once your feet leave the ground you're good to leap

solid sun
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I usually say thanks after a tug. You’re telling me to just bounce?

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Seems rude

chilly brook
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it's just business

mighty valley
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i haven't actually done it this season, does 0.5-0.7s on cast still work as a ballpark

chilly brook
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no idea

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never looked at the cast just do it based on when I get zucced

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although now I'm just transcendencing

solid sun
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How do you do that

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I don’t have that button

frosty mango
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Gotta farm it

solid sun
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Bet

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How much aura do I get by becoming a panda

undone beacon
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+7

solid sun
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That’s pretty solid

mighty valley
undone beacon
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It’s a nice bump for sure

solid sun
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Tbh I’m kind of surprised your non-bear characters aren’t pandas Pash

drifting glade
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thats the best timing

undone beacon
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So they’re all goblins or HMT

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and a single earthern for pally

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I’ve dabbled with panda rogue because funny but

solid sun
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I’ve made a lot of pandas in my day

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I’m not overly fond of how armor looks on them sometimes but they’re pretty awesome

undone beacon
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Panda surv hunter is tempting because panda melee animations are slick

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I love spinning my spear around

solid sun
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This is the perfect patch then

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Wrap it and spin it

chilly brook
undone beacon
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Now that goblin patch is over and goblins have peaked it’s very tempting to spice things up and race change some toons but

chilly brook
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it's not a technique the prot warriors would teach you

solid sun
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Monk is my alt

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I think

solid sun
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Unless someone decides they want to tank so I can learn how to feral

undone beacon
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But it would be thematic

lusty grotto
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How dare you

solid sun
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What’s wrong with alliance you dork

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Ha owned

lusty grotto
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Get fucked

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Bear

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By a rhino, no less

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Wait a minute...

undone beacon
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Damn, you got me. Uninstalling

solid sun
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You know what they say

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Mess with the rhino, get the horn

undone beacon
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I just like da horde okayyyyy

sweet summit
undone beacon
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I’m edgy like that

lusty grotto
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Early bear gets dicked

undone beacon
lusty grotto
mighty valley
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we all played baldur's gate 3

lusty grotto
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U right, damn

undone beacon
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fr fr ong no cap

lusty grotto
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On god

solid sun
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Are we expecting hero track brand to be a bis option

lusty grotto
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Likely

solid sun
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It’d be kinda nice to get that and not have to try for two myth track m+ trinks

lusty grotto
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Stonks are high

leaden shard
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holy thunderblast

lusty grotto
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Well dinar is coming anyway

undone beacon
leaden shard
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cant execute when 2 dead on a boss at 90% hp

undone beacon
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False, Sudden Death. All in on execute. And tough as nails. And Bolster

leaden shard
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5 min boss fight on a 7 :)

undone beacon
solid sun
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That’s the critique I gave Doot

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More executes

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But I don’t think he saw me

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We need like so many executes

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Guys the ret paladin thing evolved

mighty valley
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Please do tell

solid sun
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They created a new channel so the others could be closed symbolically lol

frigid valley
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Bolas has 2 braincells left fighting for third place it seems

upper ice
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Are they just throwing a fit because ret tuning is low?

glacial grove
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New 2pc for old 4pc?

upper ice
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I'm also qurious when to replace tier

solid sun
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@warm plinth

frigid valley
jagged gust
mighty valley
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if you just wanna max damage, stay s2 4p colossus til you get s3 4p, then equip and swap to thane