XD
#protection
toxic pewter
mighty valley
i don't think anyone has defeated loading screen
errant wagon
loading screen boss has beaten me as well
lusty grotto
Lmao
warm plinth
I'm gonna have at least 2 tier pieces available in each toon's vault
toxic pewter
a lot of race to world first people are in already they must have private access
what a disgrace
oh do they get their own server actually LOL
awkward if thats the case
warm plinth
no o_O
ruby musk
here's a screenshot of it
It's crazy we got the exact same vault.
mighty valley
Ok I got in... pretty good vault, guess I should sim
ruby musk
lol
blazing ridge
some people got s2 gear in their vaults? xd
toxic pewter
Ok I got in... pretty good vault, guess I should sim
maybe take the tokens this week 
mighty valley
maybe take the tokens this week <:keks:936231610850897992>
weird, i don't see the button for that. week 1 bugs lol
toxic pewter
sound about right lmao
fringe burrow
nice, progressed from loading screen to 'a character with that name is already in game' or some such
vestal relic
Lmaoo
tulip pumice
keen star
NA can u stop hogging up raidbots
warm plinth
We can't even get in-game; what are we gonna sim
mortal cypress
lol
frosty mango
Simming hopes and dreams
solid sun
Earnest question
I promise I’m not trying to shit on delves
Is there any reason to do them if I can just farm hero track gear from keys
solid sun
Alrighty
prime sphinx
no especially since u gotta run a bunch to even unlock the ability to get the hero track item now from delve
u overcap gilded from M+ anyway
manic tendon
lol oh blizzard, there's nothing lower to sell out to anymore, no lower you can sink
keen star
Is there any reason to do them if I can just farm hero track gear from keys
just 3 vault slots for a tier piece, and if you randomly drop that map while doing it then it's nice getting a guaranteed hero piece
toxic pewter
thankfully this game is completely free to play and we don't pay our hard earned cash or anything like that to play it
and we have unlimited time, not like we are bound by any sort of limit such as DEATH or anything like this
imagine if that weren't the case, PHEW
warm plinth
Idk anything about this sort of thing but wouldn't it make more sense to just put us in a controlled queue instead of this weird ass perma load screen followed by disconnect thing?
frosty mango
Idk anything about this sort of thing but wouldn't it make more sense to just pu...
most likely some sort of infinite loop scenario they didnt see in "testing"
keen star
also sometimes it's just ddos
toxic pewter
lol
frosty mango
you do get placed into a queue when you log in but this is after that
warm plinth
We wouldn't get into the char thing though would we?
Doesn't DDoS usually affect the login server, not loading into the game itself?
toxic pewter
the ddos line is just propaganda, blizz been blaming 'ddos' for their poor network architecture now for years LOL
it never was ddos
its just made up nonsense
keen star
Doesn't DDoS usually affect the login server, not loading into the game itself?
it's probably separate servers and they can ddos either
toxic pewter
IM IN
warm plinth
I'M IN TOO
heavy sparrow
Don't open your vaults, apparently people are getting season 2 gear
warm plinth
I'M SWIMMING IN THE AIR
keen star
Don't open your vaults, apparently people are getting season 2 gear
holy I want to see
warm plinth
I'M DOING IT
fringe burrow
I'm in! time to log out and log on to a different alt for vault
heavy sparrow
Do it for science
fluid widget
Don't open your vaults, apparently people are getting season 2 gear
Proof?
keen star
imagine getting a S3 item level of S2 gear
rough egret
Gg
azure crag
BRO MY WHOLE 4 PIECE IS IN HERE.
WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT ALL
fluid widget
Grats
stark spire
Gg!
fluid widget
Heroic tier is an absolute win
fringe burrow
higher chance to get tier before you got 4p on a character, feels like
keen star
**BRO MY WHOLE 4 PIECE IS IN HERE.**
WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT ALL
defer
warm plinth
**BRO MY WHOLE 4 PIECE IS IN HERE.**
WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT ALL
Take the shoulders then we can be twins
same tier piece, same slot in the vault, ezpz
keen star
I can't wait to get 6 rings tomorrow
sour leaf
fluid widget
I’d almost wait until raid so you can guarantee 2p
frigid valley
u get catalyst charge
keen star
me in a loot council guild 
frigid valley
so 2p is 100% if u get in vault
fluid widget
so 2p is 100% if u get in vault
Not necessarily you need to get loot from m+
keen star
1 catalyst charge free and 1 for 2500 rio
fluid widget
And I know I don’t get shit 😭
toxic pewter
got tier hands
warm plinth
let's gooooo
small steeple
I'm, hearing vault is givbing season 2 gear?
keen star
I'm, hearing vault is givbing season 2 gear?
and myth item for people who did kyveza ??
warm plinth
well I got 3 toons to open on, I'll let you know if it does
But first one did not give s2 gear
small steeple
cool
heavy sparrow
keen obsidian
Champ Shoulders or Hero Chest? hmmm
glossy wind
is lights devotion tome trash
fluid widget
Hero chest easy
lusty grotto
is lights devotion tome trash
?
potent anvil
Got tier shoulders with +speed. I now have +33% move speed
lusty grotto
brother what
warm plinth
2nd vault, s3 gear
lusty grotto
are you new here
keen star
is lights devotion tome trash
it's farmable on hero track btw
glossy wind
Yes lol how would i know whats good
fluid widget
Sims
boreal stream
do we break 4 set for 2set?
lusty grotto
if i wanted to say a number i'd say 26k+
rating
not percent
you will drop as youre gearing since ilvl > all
warm plinth
% doesn't matter as % haste does not diminish. Only haste from stat rating diminishes
steady edge
would you guys get a hero weapon or champion tier head
warm plinth
Because someone is gonna see 36%, see that they have 36% with ItF buf
keen star
lusty grotto
that amongst other things
keen star
no that's multiplied by talents
weak pebble
is the mind fracturing odium any good
lusty grotto
you only want 2 things this vault
warm plinth
No it's not. The % is multiplied. Rating does not get changed by talents.
cedar bobcat
is this trinket any good or worth
warm plinth
And the number at the bottom of the haste tooltip is the amount from rating
lusty grotto
TIER OR SOCKET
warm plinth
It doesn't change from talents
lusty grotto
ANYTHING ELSE IS FARMABLE, OR YOU GET TO SIM
boreal stream
Do we break 4 set with new 2 set?
keen star
And the number at the bottom of the haste tooltip is the amount from rating
yes I meant the 42% was after talents and 24k/36% was from gear and buffs. DR only applies to the % from rating
keen star
oh wow, same result but good to know
warm plinth
The screenshot he posted was to show that the 20,500 number was not correct.
frigid valley
good start for liquid 😄
mighty valley
oh my god i forgot this discourse would be coming back
keen star
good start for liquid 😄
do you know who and why so we can avoid exploiting by accident
warm plinth
nvm Audis
lusty grotto
good start for liquid 😄
sure, and gingi too so whats new
frigid valley
do you know who and why so we can avoid exploiting by accident
hopeful, standard mages
lusty grotto
do you know who and why so we can avoid exploiting by accident
rep farm
rep exploit
same as always
mighty valley
noooooooo i should've done four more delves
keen star
hopeful isn't in Echo anymore?
warm plinth
noooooooo i should've done four more delves
Fucking rip
frigid valley
surerly gingi wouldnt get hit a third time by same kind of exploit
frigid valley
kek
tidal scarab
is vault working? i see some people saying its giving s2 gear
keen star
what did they gain from the rep exploits? did they at least get the infinite augment or runed crest?
undone hull
lusty grotto
what did they gain from the rep exploits? did they at least get the infinite aug...
both
but i dont think they could get that far anyway
they're just ahead
lusty grotto
ATTENTION VAULT QUESTIONS
frigid valley
idk 6months sounds harsh for the rep thingy, alot of ppl gotten like 7-10days for this exploit
lusty grotto
repeated offenses ig
solid sun
Would you give this advice to basically every spec
lusty grotto
yes
solid sun
I figured
lusty grotto
that should be a global pin for all class discords
undone beacon
@lusty grotto Bear Vault #1
keen star
every single tier the same thing happens, I thought they would take the hint
tidal scarab
hell yeah
keen star
is hopeful even at that liquid venue?
grizzled nova
tier chest shoulder or hands 
lusty grotto
because it rocks it
grizzled nova
Just do the basic math on it.
Regular ravager averages 8s of uptime per minute, proc ravager averages 20s of uptime per minute.
stark spire
Are wowhead specs updated post mountain thane nerf?
grizzled nova
That's 120 more rage per minute.
Do you lose potentially the ability to line it up with cds? sure.
But, 120 more rage per minute.
mighty valley
Are wowhead specs updated post mountain thane nerf?
yeah, it was roughly a 7% nerf but still clearly ahead in single target
it was BUSTED before
blazing shuttle
TIER OR SOCKET
Thank you boss.
stark spire
@mighty valley Thanks. Would have been nice to be a little bit busted for a tier haha
next yacht
is there a prot trinket guide for the patch?
grizzled nova
Think of it in the long haul, that's ~3200 more rage in a dungeon, or about 95 more ignore pains, more avatar uptime, etc.
lusty grotto
is there a prot trinket guide for the patch?
the wowhead guide has one
mighty valley
<@222954580839759872> Thanks. Would have been nice to be a little bit busted for...
we're still pretty dang good!
lusty grotto
under the bis section
next yacht
under the bis section
thank you
lusty grotto
yet to be updated for the idol buff, which should move up to S and the bag should move down due to nerfs
vale escarp
If i get 2 different T-Set parts in Vault should go for the timewalk weekly first since there could be a t-set too?
rough egret
Timewalk will not drop tier
keen star
so it's a raid loot chest that can't drop tier?
rough egret
Yes
plush tendon
4/4 on hero tier for my toons
rough egret
Thats how it goes
rough egret
GGs
grizzled nova
so it's a raid loot chest that can't drop tier?
It drops timewalking gear from that raid specifically
keen star
It drops timewalking gear from that raid specifically
oh not from current raid
rich dragon
Ceaseless Swarmgland ok for tanking?
lusty grotto
not timewalking gear
keen star
yea I wouldn't go into TW raid just the dungeon quest
lusty grotto
the "do your timewalking shit" one is champ loot from manaforge, not including tier
rough egret
You can get a hero item that can be converted to tier
grizzled nova
Oh the weekly is a normal manaforge piece.
lusty grotto
yes
rough egret
Yes - champion track
grizzled nova
I mean even if it could drop tier, it's a normal so I wouldn't sweat it if you have a hero track in vault.
But those chests normally do not give tier.
rough egret
Correct
warm plinth
usually runs friday>friday
grizzled nova
well it's gone 
solid sun
Hopeful got banned for 6 months
lusty grotto
ye we know
azure crag
Man, delves are so cool.
+11 is real hard for me right now, but you can tank mobs in these little ice patches in this one delve
and it deals A LOT of damage to them
lusty grotto
Ceaseless Swarmgland ok for tanking?
very meh
dusky canopy
What did hopeful do?
lusty grotto
rep exploit probably
solid sun
Whatever it was it must have been worse than the wowhead article thing
Cause that one was 10 days
jagged pier
rep exploit probably
nah that was 10 days
lusty grotto
means longer bans
jagged pier
not 6 months
lusty grotto
repeated offenses!!
neon elk
Soo they realy timegated maps from delves huh?
jagged pier
if he was caught in that he wouldnt even have got in today
jagged pier
Soo they realy timegated maps from delves huh?
nope
frigid valley
yeah im not buying that it was the rep, most likely triggered some shit that is bad by accident or on purpose
daring narwhal
do you know if the 4p dps gains sheet is available publicly now ?
jagged pier
some guy in my guild has 5 things that spawn the boss that drops hte mob
timber seal
fast question, do we go 2+2 tier or we switch at new 4 set?
lusty grotto
full 4pc
frigid valley
some guy in my guild has 5 things that spawn the boss that drops hte mob
need delve lvl2 on seasonal tho to be able to get the actual map
neon elk
So if u kill nemesis the map drops ? Wowhead article make it looks like it doessnt drop anyway
jagged pier
it should drop if u have summoned her
jagged pier
which u can get an item buy buying or from the barrels u loot in delves
cloud umbra
how do you update the cloak this week?
neon elk
We need someone to test it
frigid valley
lusty grotto
test what
frigid valley
oh wait i have 21 in total
warm plinth
it should drop if u have summoned her
It will not drop from her without the second reward from the seasonal journey.
frigid valley
^
warm plinth
It's new to this season
warm plinth
You can get the items
lusty grotto
so it might have been from the chests
neon elk
Yea so they did timegate it
frosty mango
You need to be level 2
frigid valley
i have them
we're not talking about same thing
warm plinth
yeppers
frigid valley
u can spawn her, but she wont drop a map til lvl2
neon elk
Thats kinda bummer ngl
frigid valley
also BEWARE, do her mechanics, beacuse she oneshots in a 8 delve too
frosty mango
It’s 200 per l8 delve plus the weekly item which is 1500, 2500 per tier
So you’d need let’s see
18 t8 delves?
frosty mango
Oh yea I guess it is now
warm plinth
mighty valley
it'll go faster if you get more keys on alts but uh
i'm not grinding out tier 2 this week for a single hero piece lol
frosty mango
I didn’t get delvers journey for completing the delve
frosty mango
I’ve done two t8s and I have 1800
warm plinth
It has to be a bountiful delve @frosty mango
prime sphinx
open ur vault as arms btw it has 5/28 chance for tier in each delve slot, prot has 5/31 chance
frosty mango
It has to be a bountiful delve <@228540157333078016>
I did 2 so far I’m at 1900
so I got 200 per bountiful delve
solid sun
Has anyone started keys yet
warm plinth
I did a tier 11 bountiful and am at 300
I don't think these numbers are right
Because I used a coffer key too
So I should minimum have gotten 400 (250 from the key + 150 if it doesn't scale past 8)
bleak parcel
🤔
solid sun
I did 2 so far I’m at 1900
you said 6 shields. it was only 1
warm plinth
Just take tier
bleak parcel
Fair enough tbh
inner arch
So we’re playing colossus with old 4 piece until new 4 piece?
bleak parcel
the belt is like a 50 ilvl upgrade cause this is a s1 char but
frosty mango
So I should minimum have gotten 400 (250 from the key + 150 if it doesn't scale ...
im pretty sure its 200 per t8 bountiful
because i was at 1900 and now im at 2199
2100*
warm plinth
and that was with or without using a key?
frosty mango
with
warm plinth
Ok so I'm thinking keys actually don't matter
frosty mango
ive done 3 keys and 1500 + 600 = 2100
warm plinth
gonna check mine after I finish before i use key
rough egret
Ok so I'm thinking keys actually don't matter
It does based on article
prime sphinx
open ur vault as arms btw it has 5/28 5/27 5/26 chance for tier in each delve slot, prot has 5/31 5/30 5/29 chance 🙂
warm plinth
Yeah the article numbers are definitely wrong
rough egret
But you can do bountifull delve and not use key
warm plinth
I know that
solid sun
This is a poop vault and now I am sad
bleak parcel
should I slam 2 set immediately with catalyst? I dont have last seasons tier
warm plinth
But the article claimed that using a key is more rep, but it does not seem to be
rough egret
should I slam 2 set immediately with catalyst? I dont have last seasons tier
You can if both are hero track atleast 😄
lusty grotto
i mean
without tier, i guess its fine
but no reason to burn a cata charge this soon
prime sphinx
do raid first or ur locking urself to certain pieces
rough egret
Do you raid? @bleak parcel
bleak parcel
Do you raid? <@152934753312571393>
no
lusty grotto
is lfr open
rough egret
First wing should be
bleak parcel
ill send first wing rq good shout
solid sun
Can the TW quest reward tier?
lusty grotto
no
rough egret
But you can get lucky and get some usefull hero track item from Ulduar quest
prime sphinx
champ track
neon elk
first wing should be open right?
Does first wing even drop tier ?
prime sphinx
only during turbulent timeways is it hc track
rough egret
champ track
So is it changed?
Im not talking about the quest from npc in dornogol
This one you take in dalaran ir un ulduat
prime sphinx
oh right yeah that one might still be hc true
usually has some dodgy loot tho
atleast the black temple one does
grizzled nova
Does first wing even drop tier ?
Legs and Hands
lusty grotto
the ulduar quest is never refered to as the "timewalking quest"
TW quest = champ track, no tier
ulduar quest = hero, no tier
both are catalyzable
grizzled nova
Timewalking weeks always have a meta quest that gives you a piece of a current raid loot, and a timewalking raid quest that gives you a piece of upscaled loot from the timewalking raid.
Loot from the timewalking raid can be catalyzed.
prime sphinx
waste of time either way
grizzled nova
Raid trinkets being ish-better than m+ trinkets I can live with, so long as they aren't useless.
I'm not a fan of the rare boots being raid only tho
Full budget secondaries +50% more reshii procs and you have to raid to get them ehhhh
lusty grotto
nbd
brave stirrup
Do we turn hero track into tier ?
lusty grotto
Do we turn hero track into tier ?
you can, but why would you
unless youre about to hit 4pc with it
orchid flare
Is Symbiotic Ethergauze good relative to other hero track items?
brave stirrup
Do we spend crests on hero gear ? Champ gear ?
lusty grotto
cause youre gonna lose haste gearing
orchid flare
i did, it doesn't explain every single trinket and everything is simmed against myth track, no?
warm plinth
ive done 3 keys and 1500 + 600 = 2100
Bruh. You get the journey from using the key...completing the delve doesn't give shit 🫠
Checked after opening everything except the key chest, no increase. Used key to open that chest, 300 journey
orchid flare
it says it's the best delve trinket, and i would assume delve trinkets are only lower tier because of the ilvl cap
warm plinth
(tier 11)
lusty grotto
i did, it doesn't explain every single trinket and everything is simmed against ...
we'd have to sim everything hero track
lunar flare
I love the first week of a season. Everyone acts like a single slightly suboptimal decision will ruin their lives for the next six months
warm plinth
I got a champ shield from delve :pog: massive amirite
lusty grotto
but what does it matter, you go for it if its better than what you have
its not like you can target delve trinkets
they are RNG
orchid flare
well i'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to take that or take tier
lusty grotto
you take tier
this vault you take tier or socket
thats it
this applies to
everyone
in any class
in any role
you can farm hero tracks, you can do delves for shit again, you want tier as soon as possible
orchid flare
well champ track tier is a bit less enticing considering i'll definitely see that again, but i might never see the hero track delve trinket again, or a myth track bis trinket
lusty grotto
there
lusty grotto
well champ track tier is a bit less enticing considering i'll definitely see tha...
i dont know why you would think that
fluid widget
you can farm hero tracks, you can do delves for shit again, you want tier as soo...
Does it matter the tier?
lusty grotto
no
orchid flare
i can just catalyze a tier? i can't just catalyze a good trinket?
lusty grotto
youre gearing up, you want tier
fluid widget
Cool easy decision then, got champ tier vs 3 shitty delve trinkets
lusty grotto
i can just catalyze a tier? i can't just catalyze a good trinket?
how long would that take you?
4pc is the single most powerful upgrade you can get
fluid widget
i can just catalyze a tier? i can't just catalyze a good trinket?
First two bosses in mythic have amazing trinkets
orchid flare
because 4pc is guaranteed but good trinkets aren't
lusty grotto
it got nerfed
lusty grotto
ok then do whatever you want i guess
if you care about progression youre going for tier
orchid flare
i'm not prog raiding, just casually M+ing, and 10s are free without 4pc
lusty grotto
you do you
orchid flare
either way, guess i'll go sim the trinkets if there isn't already data available
undone beacon
tier lol
narrow prawn
ok
undone beacon
Craft a shield like a good Scorpws
jagged gust
so storymode isn't out yet?
frigid valley
next week iirc
lament cloak
VAULT HELP- Sims is showing me to get the pacemaker, but i am torn since i can farm Hero track Pace this week.. should i get the hero trinket instead or what do you all think?
prime sphinx
socket
prime sphinx
and open ur vault as arms better tier chance
brave stirrup
Do we wait for 4pc to switch to thane ?
lusty grotto
yes
brave stirrup
Do we spend crests on runes crests on hero gear only? No champ gear?
lusty grotto
do i have to link the chart again
brave stirrup
I think you do
timber seal
do you also wait with full tier switch if u got like 658 s2 tier?
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
do you also wait with full tier switch if u got like 658 s2 tier?
you can sim it but its likely youll have to wait
thats why you go tier this vault
you want to start collecting pieces as soon as possible
timber seal
tyvm 🙂
lusty grotto
and no hero track delve trinket will outsim any hero track dungeon trinket
especially not: pacemaker, tome, idol, soleah or sacbrood
all which are farmable
lament cloak
VAULT HELP- Sims is showing me to get the pacemaker, but i am torn since i can f...
with THat said 1stVault, what should i choose?
i understand that all dungeon items are farmable which is why i am at a loss on what to pick
lusty grotto
with THat said 1stVault, what should i choose?
you can socket or pacemaker honestly
up to you there
if youre confident you can get it quickly without a lot of floodgate spam, then go socket
with my luck, i would probably go pace
lament cloak
so choose tokens for Technomancers Gift (socket) then?
lusty grotto
yeah, if youre confident on the farm
mighty valley
how many priories did it take you to get hero tome, nim
lusty grotto
49
mortal cypress
yeah, if youre confident on the farm
lusty grotto
undone beacon
hey no swearing in my good christian prot warr channel
warm plinth
Not sure, mod on comp wow said they got banned for piloting in Instant Dollars' gallywix kill
mortal cypress
no he did it for a friend lol
mortal cypress
in his old guild
mighty valley
i think taking socket is rational but i do wanna make sure people know what they're signing up for if they're just like "eh, I'll farm that" lol
jagged gust
piloting? Never heard that one before
desert jasper
Do we run col with S2 tier or switch to thane now?
lusty grotto
i think taking socket is rational but i do wanna make sure people know what they...
i mean i did ask them twice
warm plinth
Do we run col with S2 tier or switch to thane now?
Col with S2 tier
lusty grotto
s2 4pc or not tier = colossus
s3 4pc = thane
you swap tiers with 4pc only
some people have lucky seeds
and some people run with split groups
frigid valley
i think taking socket is rational but i do wanna make sure people know what they...
im taking whatever gives me the most dopamine
seaons so long it dont matter what i do week1
old flame
mortal cypress
https://i.imgur.com/YRRHQpp.png
ahahahahah
rough egret
Alright enough spoilers, imma head to bed, hit the gym in the morning and take tier items for my bear and warr from vaults. Ez game
mighty valley
im taking whatever gives me the most dopamine <:yep:703420923625078804>
seaons...
yeah, and socket is worth less relative stats than ever
but yknow. if people want a rational answer and not "i'm not your dad, take what's fun"
frigid valley
and ilvl makes you more appealing when pugging
jagged gust
I have vowed to take every single speed tertiary in vault
lusty grotto
ok harrow
in the interest of taking into consideration your feedback
i will make a change
frigid valley
eitherway il take tier 99% of of time beacuse im a tank and i get no loot xdd
lusty grotto
hopefully thats better
vocal flame
lol
frigid valley
X
jagged gust
Antenna, a BOE, boots and belt from first LFR, looking good so far
warm plinth
how many tier pieces are available in lfr this week
lusty grotto
hooooly!
https://x.com/liquidguild/status/1955347969089122785
lmao
probably one
ghash
warm plinth
Actually looks like 2 😮
lusty grotto
or is it a 2 boss wing?
warm plinth
Legs from Loom and hands from Soulbinder
warm plinth
yuge
So all I gotta do is get insanely lucky and get both, then use my catalyst charge and bam, 4pc week 1
lusty grotto
they will pump needs to gear people
prime sphinx
they can also kick you if they are 5+
lusty grotto
yea
vocal flame
Nim is there a big difference in S2 as Thane vs Col just by gearing up not pushing keys or anything? I know the pick is Col but I miss Thane!
lusty grotto
there is but its closer due to aoe exe
cant be bothered to check since we're moving on soon
but you can play thane
its only a damage offset, which is being removed with tier soon enough
vocal flame
ah cool, i dont raid or anything so itll be longer for me to get tier
ok cool. Thank You!
hollow flower
should i start the season as MT or Collosus for m+
hollow flower
thx
hushed harbor
with the new talents, is the raid single target spec (swapping thane for colossus) on wowhead the best one until we get new 4pc?
ah wait scrolling down i see raid build colossus nm carry on ignore
fringe burrow
hearty cipher
thanks 🙂
nocturne spindle
neat
rough egret
Nice
mellow bridge
hold
bleak parcel
hold 🫡
mellow bridge
youre swapping 4p for 4p only
lusty grotto
hold
mellow bridge
2p is useless
bleak parcel
youre swapping 4p for 4p only
im on a s1 character so no s2 tier
lusty grotto
💯
mellow bridge
ah
still crown
Still hold. No need to rush
mellow bridge
well if you want the immediate power you could do it i guess? but you can fuck yourself over this way for 4p
i'd still hold
lusty grotto
you still want to hold charges to complete 4pc and/or for myth pieces
mellow bridge
ya
bleak marsh
evening! does anyone have a WA pack for the new raid that includes tank alerts ? my go to pack every tier stopped implementing tank alerts
sharp merlin
They can’t even kill last boss smh
vague trout
Is this thing not referenced anywhere because it's a stinker, or because it's Delve gear? I figured if the PPM was decent it's a proc based bomb suit which should at least be okay
lusty grotto
delve gear
vague trout
aight, ty
lusty grotto
there are better farmable hero track trinkets
hardy snow
evening! does anyone have a WA pack for the new raid that includes tank alerts ?...
liquid pack have them if you subscribe, NS have some tank stuff as well, Causes probably too
toxic pewter
lost shield to a holy paladin again i swear this happens every seson lmao
lusty grotto
pretty normal y ea
jagged gust
lost shield to a holy paladin again i swear this happens every seson lmao
yoinked by a chipadin
lusty grotto
chipadin is indeed holy
for now
im actually logging on now
was busy
time to steal apb's shields
HEHEHEHEHE
i just realized something
iykyk
sql query not run
shrewd grove
Figured
toxic pewter
lolol
shrewd grove
Do we raid as Coloss with no tier? I don't see a build for it on wowhead
Only thane
strong forum
lusty grotto
spidermoth
solid sun
@mighty valley ready to burn it down with me
mighty valley
IMPOSTOR
solid sun
lol
mighty valley
i don't think that person has ever smoked a brisket in their life
solid sun
sly glade
What loot spec are you guys opening vault with?
solid sun
i don't think that person has ever smoked a brisket in their life
They didn't even know a brisket was meat :(
lusty grotto
jesus lol
true yoke
Sorry guys for the q, but then i get ilvl which stat should i prioritize
hardy snow
whats the max back rank/ilvl and raid rep lvl in first week?
hardy snow
sorry, I meant upcoming, first week of season
warm plinth
r4 this week, 714
lusty grotto
oh
hardy snow
I treat previous as week 0 😄
lusty grotto
Sorry guys for the q, but then i get ilvl which stat should i prioritize
wowhead and icyveins are your friends
they have wonderful guides and summaries that tell you which you go
and our orange and blue names maintain both
shrewd grove
Do I have to do some quest after getting my Reshi Wraps for first boss of raid? I heard there was an on-use or something but can't find info about it
hardy snow
r4 this week, 714
thanks, and what about raid rep? is it only 1 renown or 2? I think it was 2 back in undermine for the start 🤔
lusty grotto
good question
we'll know by tonight lol
let me see if i catch that on liquid's stream
hardy snow
Ive checked armory of some liquid player, and armory doesnt show this rep at all
and that char made full clear plus few hc, so definetely got the cap
idle copper
Wrong section I know (but replies here are more consistent) but my offspec is fury sims (for 5 target dummies) say I should be doing 6.577m dps, im getting 6.27m dps. Am i within a resonable margin of error or it that just bad and i need to get better?
lusty grotto
youre never gonna do the same dps as a sim
you'll always be lower
or even higher if there's damage amps
idle copper
ok ty, so im technically doing ok
idle copper
Ill take just above avg :)
jagged gust
Just being close to your sims is a good sign, but yeah there's a lot of variance in any given pull
Just get lucky smiley face
idle copper
Just get lucky smiley face
stupid question lucky smiley face - not an add on yep?
jagged gust
nope, you can pull that from the html report in raidbot
solid sun
Same
idle copper
I thought with the amps reduced from the spec tree they were broadly similar (with col a little ahead)? Edit until tier set
lusty grotto
colossus is better
neon elk
U are better
slow hatch
Taking a hero track shield from my vault is probably best, right?
lusty grotto
idk about that lol
lusty grotto
Taking a hero track shield from my vault is probably best, right?
no read nickname
hero shields are farmable
idle copper
Stupid question are you more likely to get a tier piece opening as arms as there is (??) less weapons and shields in the loot table then?
lusty grotto
likely yes
slow hatch
Should I break my S2 4p for a s3 2p?
flat peak
is pwarr old 4p to new 4p only like ret pallies? or is it chill to do 2p/2p?
vocal flame
Nim we are taking tier even if its not heroic track? this one is champion
vocal flame
prob not
azure crag
there's no amount of ilvl that's worth breaking the 4 piece over, right?
mighty valley
sim it... but prob not
lusty grotto
^
vocal flame
Cobat I have had 25+ i level increase and its still less DPS than S2 tier for me
azure crag
My tier from last season is veteran, cause this used to be an alt, but is now my main
mighty valley
s1 tier was weak as hell
lusty grotto
s1 tier was dogshit for us so we replaced asap
s2 tier is not anywhere near dogshit, its pretty good
fringe burrow
Is there a weak aura for first boss in gambit?
desert hinge
i only have a 2 piece from starting a couple days prior to s3, would yall take a tier piece and go 2/2 wit ha catalyst upgrade or go for the tank trinket and just keep s2 2pc?
cloud umbra
anyone know how to upgarde the cloak this week?
desert hinge
i got one point for doing a key, not sure outside that
tight mural
Get the threads from activities. I got from a delve
neon elk
Do i need to do anither camping first ?
undone orbit
does anyone have a small weakaura for tank and offtank for the new raid
neon elk
Or it straight up let me upgrade ?
mossy isle
Hey, i'm new here been war arms for a long time but wanna go for push as a prot this season, i was doubting about going Mountain or Collosus. Any advice ?
i watch the +/- on the guides of the protection-faq but don't get what i was looking for
lusty grotto
you can play thane if youre new
warm plinth
Or it straight up let me upgrade ?
you need to do content to get the threads but you can just upgrade; no campaign needed
lusty grotto
youll use it with this season's tier anyway
mossy isle
Ok that was lowkey my question
neon elk
Cool, thanks
warm plinth
weird that like no one is signing up for keys today
lusty grotto
its just better to stick to thane
mossy isle
Cuz as a war pretty experimented war arms i was about to go collosus but if Mountain is the way to go
mossy isle
its just better to stick to thane
Ty for the info 🙂
cerulean tusk
Come on, Col cant be that bad going into S3
cerulean tusk
Man I am glad they trash
mossy isle
It's more fun i agree all day, but for some reason i do really like the mountain build on prot
mossy isle
Hey i was arms
i'm not a troll squad man
I go to +19 and try some +20 last season
we're not all the same xD
cerulean tusk
Weekly Arms warrior, never seen one
why bring a warrior, when MM did 3x the dam in a weekly key
mossy isle
i pretty much afk mid end season but i believe i end up around top 200 wich is not that good cuz no one play it
but it is still a pretty good thing to me ^^
cerulean tusk
Top 200 warrior? Not too shabby
mossy isle
why bring a warrior, when MM did 3x the dam in a weekly key
Because u main war arms since ur a kid 😎
At my top i was top 50 but stop like a week after
cerulean tusk
I ended at 250 ish, as Slayer Fury
mossy isle
I hate fury lol
cerulean tusk
You say that, in here
You a small fish when it comes to wasted time
Dont think I did over 1k keys tho, and I boost quite a bit
mossy isle
going from 17 to 19 all day on my own key for like 2 month straight
mossy isle
I don't play arms anymore, i'll main ench sham, first season not as a war main tho
As a prot maybe who knows
cerulean tusk
Ya free from warrior, dont come back
Ya finally able to play a real spec
real class
real progress
Be free
you gotten your 🧦
maiden grove
People worry too much about whats meta
cerulean tusk
Nah
maiden grove
Have fun thats all that matters
cerulean tusk
ppl just worry what is good in their keys
maiden grove
As long as they key gets done -shrug-
cerulean tusk
And the lower you go, the easier it is to say that A is weaker than B, if A got AoE burst
mossy isle
Haha
I mean i push as war arms last season cuz i love it
but this one i wanna do a title at least
maiden grove
I mean i push as war arms last season cuz i love it
Thats all that matters is if you enjoy it and are having fun
mossy isle
Yeah i'm not gonna give it up completly
I'm just not choosing my dear war for a main push
cerulean tusk
Smh, you were so close to be free
mossy isle
It's gonna be my 2nd char and maybe as a tank this time
mossy isle
Smh, you were so close to be free
xD
But zugzug
cerulean tusk
zugzug
maiden grove
I think you can main push any class and be ok
mossy isle
Seeing a meta class being behind me overall on a +18 and ending parse 100 as war arms is such a great feeling xD
cerulean tusk
you also can go for becoming a billionaire
mossy isle
I think you can main push any class and be ok
Depends the lvl
mossy isle
I think you can main push any class and be ok
when ur on top key lvl it start to be reaaaal hard until ur a god with ur class
torn gulch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059185453015773324/1404943839533465712/image.png?ex=689d0769&is=689bb5e9&hm=74c1e601da7c647bb13acfaad69d15e5f0c6c6a5f33860dd030feca5dab591b5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
if this is true next week this is hilarious
lusty grotto
lmao
torn gulch
i spat my drink when i saw that first
a void empowered aspect of death kekw
lusty grotto
remember the tww leaks?
torn gulch
yes avaloren
lusty grotto
they always have some sort of truth
cerulean tusk
to be fair, it is only an empty vessel
lusty grotto
to them
cerulean tusk
Nah, he warned us about the thing the void even fears
lusty grotto
and the void is a bigger threat than xal
cerulean tusk
everything fears what is to come
torn gulch
never laughed so much at a so called leak in my life
cerulean tusk
Ya know Shadowlands fought off the voidlords before
yep
they dont fear the voidlords
torn gulch
knowing how divisive jailer was
timber nest
is MT better than colossus in s3 with the new tier or without?
cerulean tusk
Not without, with its better
torn gulch
we need to visit voids "zereth mortis"
lusty grotto
only with new tier
timber nest
ok
lusty grotto
the literal burning legion was made to battle the void, just a reminder
mortal cypress
they need to redo stockades but get the bosses on roids
cerulean tusk
And the Legion had nothing on the Shadowlands
torn gulch
i mean there is no way illidan and sargeras don't come hand in hand in the last titan
cerulean tusk
Nah, they all treated the Legion as nothing
lusty grotto
the only thing that opposes the void is the light which is probably as bad as an extreme
or...
the void itself
cerulean tusk
Zovald feared something bigger than the warcraft current universe and was about to recreate it to face the what is to come
so....
The void
aint
piss
toxic pewter
pog got thos boots granted normal raid but still
cerulean tusk
gz Apb
velvet delta
there is 4
cerulean tusk
Chose the one that vibes with you
When ya get tier, ya gonna go Thane most likely - if ya dont just prefer Col
velvet delta
okay good thane feels better
lusty grotto
cat theres nothing bigger than ever consuming darkness
what do you think they will introduce a mcguffin called joe and he will be far more powerful?
cerulean tusk
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059185453015773324/1404943839533465712...
Ok, I can save this:
After the introcredits, we hear a very well known "Yes! Yes! I'll hack them to pieces!"
Xal' dodges just barely as a flash for red swings for her head, a flurry of red lines have her pushed back from Zo'vald.
Xal loses focus and gets gradually pushed away, but recovers. Using Void magic to bind the attacker: The Sword trapped midair cackles manically, threatning to slice and dice, to turn the room red!
Xal prepares a spell but got to jump away as form snaps behind her, Xal' backpeddals towards a voidportal as Sire Denatharious takes a hold of Remoria, smiling smuggly.
After Xal escapes, Sire D looks to his brother. "No, not their plans. Not when ours are so much more fun."
I saved it
minor lark
I got a hero shield from my ulduar box
That was going to be my craft, but what would be 2nd priority? I assume a 1H then
Bracers too for lining ig?
austere summit
YO WE CRAFTIN 1H OR WHAT
lusty grotto
no
austere summit
shid
minor lark
Ah shit you're running the dual shield meta, nice
austere summit
1 big 2h shield
minor lark
God i wish
foggy bear
Quick question, why is crafting shield higher prio than weapon? New to prot war
lusty grotto
its your only source of block
and because it scales with ilvl, you always always always want higher ilvl over anything on shields
solar forum
1 big 2h shield
💯 the dream
lusty grotto
which means myth track (stats) > myth track (any stat) > gilded crafted > hero > everything else
fierce hare
was the pulsating stoneheart removed from the loot tables i don't see it in the dungeon journal on heroic and mythic but is still there on normal
foggy bear
which means myth track (stats) > myth track (any stat) > gilded crafted > hero >...
Cool thanks for the great explanation 🙂
vocal flame
are the APIs built into the sims for the tome? Nom took it off the pins
vocal flame
awesome! thank you again
trim island
worth taking veteran tier gloves from the vault? I assume tierset is the main thing I want
lusty grotto
yes
trim island
ah yep, I see the name
ebon scaffold
Anyone running a verse flask over a chaos if you hit the haste goal?
trim island
haste make go fast, I like haste
lusty grotto
yeah well
torn gulch
not crafting anything until next vault when we'll have 2 crafts and we can send the dimensius crest on one and 60 gilded on the other
ebon scaffold
Why would you? To help with spells and such that you can’t block?
neon elk
I would rather double craft for glided instead of going for "free hero"
lusty grotto
Why would you? To help with spells and such that you can’t block?
that amount of vers wont help you for it
you have the tools to manage those
rancid night
is new tier 2 piece better than old 4 piece? Also have higher ilvl pieces for all the other slots
lusty grotto
without consumables
lusty grotto
is new tier 2 piece better than old 4 piece? Also have higher ilvl pieces for al...
no
rancid night
sounds good ty
torn gulch
you'll have 180 gilded next reset
60 for craft 75 for myth track vault item, one hero track upgrade to 6/6 and one to 5/6
you can double gilded craft it's not wrong
neon elk
Yea i dont think im gona spend glided on hero items anytime soon
torn gulch
if you expect multiple myth track items a week yes
lament osprey
neon elk
Also isnt this week cap 180? And next 270?
torn gulch
no this week is 90
torn gulch
gilded and runed cap were completely closed week 1
someone from na can confirm if we have 90 or 180
neon elk
Yea i expected them to just have them all caped same at 180 this week, like we used to have past seasons
lusty grotto
unfortunately i dont have gilded yet so i cant
torn gulch
runed?
lusty grotto
no im doing this dumb ass bee quests thats the most stupid thing ever
torn gulch
ecological succesions kekw
neon elk
Fuck dem bees , ive had enough in meadery
lone hemlock
How much of a DPS increase would it be to go from 0 S2 tier to 4 piece S3 tier?
lusty grotto
a lot, but sim for yourself
buoyant olive
is it worth using spark on a shield or weapon or should we save em atm?
sharp gale
How much of a DPS increase would it be to go from 0 S2 tier to 4 piece S3 tier?
1 million
atomic crow
is whirling blade the real play over ravager with the thane m+ build?
feel like ravager so good
lusty grotto
is whirling blade the real play over ravager with the thane m+ build?
yes
mighty valley
you just get more ravages
lusty grotto
it is the real play, there's no meme in wowhead or icyveins
torn gulch
lusty grotto
Nimchip helping folks out
dat me
lusty grotto
is it worth using spark on a shield or weapon or should we save em atm?
you can probably use it on a shield
if you have the gilded
cursive needle
Sup fellow warriors, can anyone tell me if it would be wise to grab a hero track teir chest piece out of this box even though its not a BiS item?
lunar flare
Hi does anyone know what to take in the vault and also whether to play mt or col and which trinkets are best and what talents to take and is prot warrior good this season
Thanks in advance
mighty valley
Sup fellow warriors, can anyone tell me if it would be wise to grab a hero track...
yeah, grab tier
lusty grotto
Sup fellow warriors, can anyone tell me if it would be wise to grab a hero track...
read nickname
read nickname folks
and astryn im hoping your memeing
lunar flare
Yes boss
cursive needle
Haha ok, awesome. Thanks!
lusty grotto
okay okay
torn gulch
tier is huge in this vault because you can get up to 3 pieces without stepping into the raid
then do raid and hope you get 4p this week
mighty valley
Hi does anyone know what to take in the vault and also whether to play mt or col...
you didn’t ask when you should switch to s3 tier or if you should craft this week
not a complete question
rose flame
Right now is it worth 2p2p, or should I stick with 4p from last tier?
lunar flare
you didn’t ask when you should switch to s3 tier or if you should craft this wee...
I’ll do better next time
trim island
tier is huge in this vault because you can get up to 3 pieces without stepping i...
Where do the other two come from?
gritty violet
i hate to be the guy to ask about vault loot but.... i got hero tier legs and a hero shield. only m+ player. both those slots have 684 rn. i'm guessing tier and craft shield?
torn gulch
Where do the other two come from?
1 from catalyst and one from 2k m+rating/aotc/1600 pvp rating
lusty grotto
read nickname
trim island
oh yeah lmao I ain't getting 2k this week
lunar flare
oh yeah lmao I ain't getting 2k this week
Run your own guild and funnel loot to yourself week 1 in raids, that’s what my old RL did 🙂
trim island
just a time thing, won't be running that many this week
torn gulch
just a time thing, won't be running that many this week
that's fair
trim island
also I have no interest in raiding as a guild. I don't wanna be scheduling my life around game time. But thats definitely a me problem haha
shadow fog
how do i sim soleahs? i thought there used to be a sim option to select the secondary stat, is it just automatic now or does it have to be special code?
toxic pewter
tier is huge in this vault because you can get up to 3 pieces without stepping i...
Can you expand on this how do I get three without going into raid I honestly don’t remember
I got hands in my vault..
torn gulch
Can you expand on this how do I get three without going into raid I honestly don...
1 from catalyst and one from 2k m+rating/aotc/1600 pvp rating
toxic pewter
How do u get tier these days lol
Ok dang and my vault piece
So I’m at 3 dang nice lol
torn gulch
you still need the pieces for both catalyst slots
toxic pewter
Yeah true