you dont have to
#protection
lusty grotto
plush tendon
lusty grotto
its there by default lmao
plush tendon
when group good, I can have fun
plush tendon
when group bad, no fun
keen star
I mean it doesn't show the S2 rio next to the group name when it's M0 and doesn't sort it by rio
lusty grotto
oh m0
solid sun
I had fun
lusty grotto
who cares lol
tepid sparrow
he's having fun get him
keen star
after I modified the code it did sort it and I was even able to find 3.8k rio M0s
tepid sparrow
isn't it just lua
cloud solstice
Just joined discord. Where im not taking 16% block? guess talk is about Shield Specialization talent
lusty grotto
totally unnecessary for m0
jagged gust
I guess elvui was still a bit buggy, tried healing an arakara and the first pull we do the standard run to first miniboss, I look down and my homerow keybinds were all replaced with my dragonflying buttons
minor lark
Might just be new season coming off high gear, but I noticed trash chunking Ignore Pain?
Did something change?
keen star
isn't it just lua
yes just made the addon use a raiderio function if the person had 0 official score
jagged gust
but I was only 3250io last season, Audis may be right
lusty grotto
lmao
lusty grotto
Might just be new season coming off high gear, but I noticed trash chunking Igno...
no
jagged gust
probably a lot of kicks missed because "its only a m0"
solid sun
I cant even imagine “modifying code” to find the big io gamers for m0s and then advertising that i did it to boot
Absolutely insane
jagged gust
And suddenly the entire group is dying to volleys
minor lark
Oh right, the m0 crowd not ccing anything
That might be affecting my IP lmao
prime sphinx
Sure rio score is useful but for many ppl M+ is just a tool to gear up first week
frosty mango
Imo score means nothing
cloud solstice
Just joined discord. Where im not taking 16% block? guess talk is about Shield S...
@jagged pier or show me a single key where i didnt play it
frosty mango
At least not until the very upper end
jagged gust
ohai Kira
keen star
I cant even imagine “modifying code” to find the big io gamers for m0s and then ...
it was fun to do and I guess the runs were a tiny bit faster
tepid sparrow
clearly trivia is a better way
frosty mango
Completed keys is a far more accurate indicator of whether or not someone will be good/bad
tepid sparrow
"if you can name what will one shot you in this dungo, I will invite you"
plush tendon
not saying 3k gamers are any good, but If I have to choose between a last season 2k gamer or 3k gamer, Ill take my chances on the 3k one
frosty mango
A 3300io person with 10 completed keys almost always far worse than a 2800 person with 300 completed keys
fluid widget
^
lusty grotto
i agree with Roid
grim pilot
Not really tho xd
frosty mango
Anyone can be carried
tepid sparrow
i don't really agree there @frosty mango
plush tendon
yea, but there is no 2.8k gamer who did 300 keys
keen star
A 3300io person with 10 completed keys almost always far worse than a 2800 perso...
me with 100 motherlodes and 50 floodgates +10
plush tendon
how can you not get the 200 extra score for the mount
tepid sparrow
there's a large nonlinear difficulty increase from a 10 to a 12/13
lusty grotto
yea, but there is no 2.8k gamer who did 300 keys
yes there is, my alts
plush tendon
yes there is, my alts
you can see main score
plus, especially last season, 3k meant you could buy myth pieces
lusty grotto
i dont think thats relevant
fluid widget
how can you not get the 200 extra score for the mount
i dont care about mounts
frosty mango
I did like over 1000 keys last season and prob 700 or so s1
jagged gust
(His alts also farmed priory 70 times for the trinket)
tepid sparrow
and I think in order to get 3300 you need a few 12s/13s/14s
frosty mango
I pug most everything
plush tendon
so like if you didnt have 3k last season, you werent getting myth trinkets with dinars
fluid widget
and i pug
lusty grotto
so like if you didnt have 3k last season, you werent getting myth trinkets with ...
wrong
frosty mango
And in my experience more completed keys is almost always indicative of better player
grim pilot
I did like over 1000 keys last season and prob 700 or so s1
1000??
lusty grotto
all 12s isnt 3k Augusto
grim pilot
I do a lot of keys
grim pilot
But not a 1000
jagged gust
2.9ish
plush tendon
grim pilot
Depends on the timers
tepid sparrow
i think if someone has done some mythic fights, that's also a really good indicator
frosty mango
I think @cerulean tusk did more than me? Or close to it
lusty grotto
doesnt matter, plenty of people dont give a shit about tying their characters
keen star
And in my experience more completed keys is almost always indicative of better p...
yes of course because they have way more hours played
jagged gust
pretty sure you could break 3k with all 12s if you 2/3 chested
frosty mango
yes of course because they have way more hours played
Yes precisely
jagged pier
<@179993058186625025> or show me a single key where i didnt play it
might be yoda I dont follow stuff but i do have a question about your thane build talents dont change so you only spend rage on IP
frosty mango
People who run the keys more tend to know when to use kicks and when to press defensives
jagged pier
you will always spend rage on revenge for reasons
frosty mango
People with like 10 completed keys usually just have their corpses drug to high IO
jagged pier
u can forgo pressing it but not advised at all
cerulean tusk
I think <@237283524040851459> did more than me? Or close to it
Sup? Done mroe of what
frosty mango
Sup? Done mroe of what
Keys
jagged gust
People who run the keys more tend to know when to use kicks and when to press de...
In the end wow is memorizing stuff and learning to react to it, more practice = more better
cerulean tusk
Probably, didnt we agree to me being like 200 ahead?
frosty mango
Yeah
cloud solstice
might be yoda I dont follow stuff but i do have a question about your thane buil...
Bro??
do u see
a difference
between Kira name
and Yoda name
cloud solstice
when u type
jagged pier
bro that screenshot
jagged gust
4 letters
jagged pier
if from your
grim pilot
4 letters
solid sun
Is this really Kira?
tepid sparrow
why's it up then
torn gulch
oh snap i need popcorn
plush tendon
jagged gust
Iunno, Kira didn't say hi back. Doesn't sound very Kira to me...
solid sun
I think it might be
cerulean tusk
Is this really Kira?
Give your full name and a picture of your face, wait and see 
blazing shuttle
(hey what the fuck is happening please)
cloud solstice
wait wait wait. Ok what i typed here and what u typed aboyut me not using 16% block talent
is same?
jagged pier
wait wait wait. Ok what i typed here and what u typed aboyut me not using 16% bl...
i said yer might be yoda, which i also said at the time
then i asked why u are saying that in your spreadsheet
solid sun
Tbf Jakey didn’t say you didn’t take shield spec. The murlok guy said that
cerulean tusk
Why cant I be Yoda?
fluid widget
i think its safe to criticize yoda
cloud solstice
cause as thane u have way higher uptime on IP
what is wrong here
cause u care less avout pressing revenge
jagged pier
what has that got to do with anything about it being our only rage spender
it not our only rage spender
we still spend rage on revenge
your stating somthing as a fact there
fluid widget
MT gets much more rage than colossus
jagged pier
that the talents completely change game play
cloud solstice
95% of the time u press IP cause if u do everything correct u always have either shield slam or clap
fluid widget
colossus is incentivized to use more revenge
cerulean tusk
There is a difference between rage overflow, and pressing IP to get the shield uptime. If that is the question ya lads talking about 
You know what, I dont want to read this, Roid poke me with the TLDR when they done
jagged pier
u dont always there are still times of own time where u spend rage on revenge
jagged pier
colossus is incentivized to use more revenge
we arent talking about that
cloud solstice
95% u are not right?
jagged pier
oh now u add it
cloud solstice
no blame anymore
plush tendon
what does all of this have to do with shield spec
idk
they are speaking European; way too cultured for me
tepid sparrow
a spreadsheet
lusty grotto
spenders
cloud solstice
is 95% fine now? or dont agree also with this
jagged pier
no thats fine
lusty grotto
i agree with it
torn gulch
poor deswind trying to write for like 5 min
fluid widget
whoa wtf @cloud solstice you have aug below arms in your tier list, you gotta fix that
potent anvil
To be fair, it was Shyn that mentioned Kira and Yoda not taking 16% block on ptr keys.
#protection message
If I'm following what's going on about it earlier.
lusty grotto
OH
frigid valley
poor deswind trying to write for like 5 min
rolling his head on keyboard so looks like he's typing
lusty grotto
of course its a viewer
potent anvil
poor deswind trying to write for like 5 min
I had to scroll up and type on mobile.
torn gulch
not ideal
lusty grotto
To be fair, it was Shyn that mentioned Kira and Yoda not taking 16% block on ptr...
ty sir
torn gulch
i still did not finish my popcorn
plush tendon
but wouldnt prot pal want 16% block?
jagged pier
why no take 16% block though
ask yoda
lusty grotto
idk lol
cerulean tusk
Nah, it is secret tech, that rats in hats dont understand
plush tendon
im not a rat, Im a mole
jagged pier
i guess kira getting angry means its yodas build
lusty grotto
Nah, it is secret tech, that rats in hats dont understand
true and real, we dont
fluid widget
yoda does some weird shit
rough egret
Topics also have it in video..
tepid sparrow
what 16% talent are we talking about
rough egret
Or how does he names
fluid widget
he's a better player then I'll ever be but i think he could benefit from theorycrafting
potent anvil
On other news, I'm up to +29% movespeed now.
rough egret
On other news, I'm up to +29% movespeed now.
Wow
potent anvil
solid sun
So was that Kira
frosty mango
On other news, I'm up to +29% movespeed now.
The real thing I wanna see
lusty grotto
probably
torn gulch
it looks like it was kira
frosty mango
ive never seen kira that angry but
One might say he was fueled by violence
frosty mango
Oh did jakey win?
cerulean tusk
true and real, we dont
Maybe they dont find the DR worth it, compared to the DPS increase?
solid sun
Deswind did a better job of saying what I did but yeah, Jakey wasn’t even the one calling him out for shield spec
jagged pier
Oh did jakey win?
i mean i didnt even say what he said i said in the first place 
frigid valley
real men tanks without shield
jagged pier
i pretty sure i even said he plays what he finds best and he will still do fine in general terms
cerulean tusk
2h Pwarr rise!
urban bane
was the issue over him not saying 95% of the time you're spending with ip?
vs only spender is ip?
jagged pier
was the issue over him not saying 95% of the time you're spending with ip?
because hes giving out the implication that u only spend rage on IP with a certain talent setup
which is just not true
frosty mango
Prot channel needs more @potent anvil hyper speed content imo
jagged pier
u can do it, but u should never do it
tepid sparrow
doesn't doing damage help refill ip
toxic pewter
why all this twitchers keep saying we are s tier its another vdh tier clear as day
urban bane
fair but you've said as much that you don't even need to press revenge as thane haha
potent anvil
Prot channel needs more <@95652243235143680> hyper speed content imo
Gonna be 2 pulls ahead of my healer in keys.
urban bane
i think you've even said you could remove it from your bars
jagged pier
fair but you've said as much that you don't even need to press revenge as thane ...
i said that if u were learning
to get used to the apm
i didnt say do it forever
tepid sparrow
is that because there's always a clap or a blast to spend rage on?
jagged pier
for like a fully new person for low keys sure, the big thing most ppl struggle with is pressing IP enough as thane
frosty mango
Gonna be 2 pulls ahead of my healer in keys.
If you don’t have a weakaura that plays the sound clip of esquie from expedition33 saying “I am speeeeed” when you heroic leap I will be violently disappointed
jagged pier
is that because there's always a clap or a blast to spend rage on?
alot of the time yes but as in that last comment for new players they struggle literally getting the normal button presses out
wicked jungle
If you don’t have a weakaura that plays the sound clip of esquie from expedition...
Or "whee"
jagged pier
like the sturggle to press SS off CD for instance
potent anvil
If you don’t have a weakaura that plays the sound clip of esquie from expedition...
I can probably make one. Would need to find a sound bite of it.
tepid sparrow
SS resets a lot and I guess I do struggle from not hitting it when it's available
do we track violent outburst
jagged pier
yes
keen star
is it very bad to TB or TC on violent outburst by accident?
wooden radish
jagged pier
is it very bad to TB or TC on violent outburst by accident?
depends on target count
lusty grotto
Maybe they dont find the DR worth it, compared to the DPS increase?
thats possible
keen star
depends on target count
yeah I meant on 1 target
solid sun
https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-17361470248...
Hey what are you doing here
lusty grotto
i always forget if k values are updated first week
blazing shuttle
https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-17361470248...
Shepard.
lusty grotto
https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-17361470248...
the OG mwahi's cat
why did you give up on prot pala man
jagged pier
yeah I meant on 1 target
yes its always better to SS, but if u have waited 2 globals u send on TB or TC
keen star
yes its always better to SS, but if u have waited 2 globals u send on TB or TC
and what if I know that my TB is boosted by 4pc?
wooden radish
why did you give up on prot pala man
you mean why i stepped down from Wowhead?
lusty grotto
yea
jagged pier
and what if I know that my TB is boosted by 4pc?
2 targets or more
jagged pier
if its not boosted and a tb i think its 4-5
something like that
if its normal TC its 7
lusty grotto
we need 2 cats so my mouse ass doesnt get bored
🙂
not saying i get bored with the other cat
just preventative
wooden radish
yea
#135842792499838986 message this is what i said about it a few months ago. im not really saying more than that.
wooden radish
thanks
lusty grotto
as long as mwahi's cat is around in HoW, it'll be good 
frigid valley
https://discord.com/channels/115288062094868481/135842792499838986/1387824210587...
bro you yeeted me to pala discord, at first i thought we had a prot general here ive missed out on for years
rough egret
ok so now im in the discord so can defend myself
So tell us what is your idea behind not taking shield spec talent please 🙂 like why not considering it as a way to go
urban bane
🤦♂️
lusty grotto
i think you missed the point, that wasn't kira that's not taking shield spec
cerulean tusk
not saying i get bored with the other cat
urban bane
this is why ppl lambast class discords
keen star
anyone knows a good ST target dummy? the ones on top of dornogal have a grate around them where I can't throw spear
jagged pier
So tell us what is your idea behind not taking shield spec talent please 🙂 like...
it wasnt him its yoda
toxic pewter
dont buy into all the propaganda.. its all cover to let vdh get by with no nerfs.. rest assured its not a prot meta (warr or pala) its a vdh meta season... same shit has been done countless times for bdk, even prot pala.. prot warrior is simply a tool for thee community as large to beeat down with nerfs and claim it is overpowered (before the season even starts) to shit the coommunity's perception away from the truly imbalanced specs.
jagged pier
So tell us what is your idea behind not taking shield spec talent please 🙂 like...
apprently mr murlok io got it wrong i suppose
jagged pier
dont buy into all the propaganda.. its all cover to let vdh get by with no nerfs...
as always
solid sun
Who could ever have seen that happening
rough egret
it wasnt him its yoda
Im sorry then @cloud solstice
blazing shuttle
You might be onto something
jagged pier
What if Kira is Yoda?
wooden radish
bro you yeeted me to pala discord, at first i thought we had a prot general here...
what
toxic pewter
he saying your post you linked to sent him to pala discord
cerulean tusk
To what question, the why not take 5% block value question?
I am lost in the sauce
lusty grotto
cat
cerulean tusk
plush tendon
To what question, the why not take 5% block value question?
extra talent point? IDK
dont do it
block good
cerulean tusk
Block bad, it doesnt increase DPS
lusty grotto
cat doing cat things
frigid valley
plush tendon
doesnt block increase SS damage? Or is that a classic thing
jagged pier
Block bad, it doesnt increase DPS
not dying is dps increase
jagged pier
doesnt block increase SS damage? Or is that a classic thing
still does
cerulean tusk
Git gud
lusty grotto
2h tanking this season, cat?
jagged gust
Tough as Nails always gets a pass in my books
cerulean tusk
Always, but s2 2h was rough
keen star
we're so lucky to have so many flex talent points and multiple builds
frosty mango
I tried to like tough as nails
jagged pier
frosty mango
It’s just so shit
cerulean tusk
Tough as Nails always gets a pass in my books
toxic pewter
wat in God's name..
jagged pier
i feel like tough as nails is recieving the shockwave build treatment
analog lantern
no disrupting shout 🤮
jagged pier
it shows on meters ergo must be good
frosty mango
it shows on meters ergo must be good
Wait do people actually think it’s good is that a thing?
jagged gust
Wasn't that like, legion?
toxic pewter
bolster and heavy repurcussions thats wild
toxic pewter
dude has giga shield block
jagged pier
Wait do people actually think it’s good is that a thing?
i mean funky is memeing but i have seen ppl go, oh its doing damage now and linking screenshots of deatils
keen star
bolster and heavy repurcussions thats wild
I wonder if you can stack up like 1 year of SB duration and never have to press it again
lusty grotto
spoiler: you cant
cerulean tusk
I start the key with infinite 100% duration, even between packs
ya just all haters
ya guys not ready for sneaky assasins between packs that spawn in randomly, but I am
I wont be caught unaware
jagged gust
I'm still upset I'm forced to take unyielding stance to get access to AM
plush tendon
fueled by violence, but no increased bleed damage
jagged gust
I want a zero defensives LFR parsing build
jagged gust
Take all the damage and heal it up so I can 100 parse on both damage AND healing
jagged pier
Cause I dont press IP
u do in your 2h build
cerulean tusk
Nope, I WW
jagged pier
cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
dont forget immersive SCK
plush tendon
can you DW 1h as Prot?
jagged pier
nope
plush tendon
<:Whirlwind:592472993373093888>
have you tried playing Prot like its classic?
lusty grotto
can you stop mentioning classic
plush tendon
charge in with battle stance with 2h, hit WW, then swap to D STance shield and sword
lusty grotto
its unbecoming of you augusto
cerulean tusk
I havent played classic since it was retail
wispy moth
And I heard that big hit in dung has been nerf, like the big hit from momma in floodgates. So without those scenarios, BSV isn't really need anymore
But maybe I'm wrong
jagged pier
And I heard that big hit in dung has been nerf, like the big hit from momma in f...
well if u have desync's them u can use it too mitigate a big hit
cerulean tusk
BSV is perfect for when your healer or yourself is caught slippin'
jagged pier
wild sun
hello lads, what prot guide would you recommend? dunno why but i just cannot wrap my mind around prot somehow
lusty grotto
wowhead or icyveins
jagged pier
wowhead and icy veins
lusty grotto
either is fine
wild sun
thanks lads
tulip surge
hello lads, what prot guide would you recommend? dunno why but i just cannot wra...
Go thane -> spam ignore pain
jagged pier
frosty mango
I wonder if you could sword and board tank as arms
wild sun
dunno why prot feels weird, wanted to add in to my tank pool
jagged pier
what feels weird about it?
jagged pier
probably
wild sun
i dunno if vdh is just that different from everyone
jagged pier
yes
cerulean tusk
It really is
wild sun
but i feel immobile even tho prot defo isn't low mobility
tulip surge
dont spam ignore pain
Yeah i know, just memeing
jagged pier
its the only pre mitigation tank in the game
frosty mango
I’m gonna do that today, I’m gonna go slayer arms and try to tank a m0. God help the pugs
tepid sparrow
isn't monk a weird pre mitigation
wispy moth
well if u have desync's them u can use it too mitigate a big hit
Yeah but to much case that it can't work. I personally prefer taking another talent that doesn't depend on a rng proc
wild sun
and rage always depletes
cerulean tusk
Warrior is the tank that looks really bad, if you care about HPS as a tank metric 
jagged pier
isn't monk a weird pre mitigation
its a bit of both
wild sun
isn't monk a weird pre mitigation
also monk feels just right too for me
cerulean tusk
Nice, sounds like you found your main class
jagged pier
Yeah but to much case that it can't work. I personally prefer taking another tal...
i mean generally its not an rng proc if u decide not to have IP or a defensive up for big hit u will proc BSV if u have it avilable
keen star
Warrior is the tank that looks really bad, if you care about HPS as a tank metri...
warrior couldn't offheal on sun king what a bad spec
wild sun
tanking feels right, prot isn't like awful in feels just weird and i can't perform
lusty grotto
i dunno if vdh is just that different from everyone
its not that different from prot, its closer than other tanks, you keep spikes up same as SB
wispy moth
i mean generally its not an rng proc if u decide not to have IP or a defensive u...
Ah sorry I was speaking about wraps, it's rng right?
lusty grotto
you just have self sustain which we dont
jagged pier
Ah sorry I was speaking about wraps, it's rng right?
well it works very much the same
wild sun
that's my issue with prot, it's defo fun, but i feel like i can do more yet i'm lost
tepid sparrow
also re: tracking violent outburst, I see this luxthos WA tracks "stacks" of it that don't exactly equal the rage spent. is there any benfit to changing that to be the actual rage spent count (if possible)
wispy moth
So, I can't rely on BSV if a rng proc may overlap it and make it useless
wild sun
its not that different from prot, its closer than other tanks, you keep spikes u...
right, just need to adjust to a rage bar
jagged pier
its cheat death procs when uy reach 40% hp and because BSV procs on a hit that would take u too 30% its very likely they both proc at the same time
lusty grotto
that's my issue with prot, it's defo fun, but i feel like i can do more yet i'm ...
well identifying what you think is not clicking is the first step
jagged pier
that's my issue with prot, it's defo fun, but i feel like i can do more yet i'm ...
got logs?
lusty grotto
i...
keen star
Bear healing on that fight
every pull I was mad at people running into my convoke range and stealing mends
lusty grotto
yikes
wild sun
bro i started playing since tww i dunno what logs are lol
wispy moth
its cheat death procs when uy reach 40% hp and because BSV procs on a hit that w...
OK I understood that when you drop below 40%, the next wraps proc is amplified, not that it'll trigger it immediately
cerulean tusk
you just have self sustain which we dont
Saying we dont have self sustain? Wow... misinformation much from mr Rat?!
- Victory Rush
- Last Stand
- Indomitable
- Fueled by Violence
Woooooow, toxic
torn gulch
what site does that?
wow logs
wispy moth
Warcraftlogs
You can dl their client and starting log your fights and upload them on their website
wild sun
got logs?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/turalyon/blockprot is this the site?
torn gulch
yes
jagged pier
u aint got any logs anyway
lusty grotto
being undergeared or not means not a whole lot for what youre doing incorrectly
keen star
playing with 5892 haste though that must suck
lusty grotto
we cant really operate on a feeling
so thats up to you to identify
we're a preventative tank
not reactive
wild sun
aren't all tanks preventative?
torn gulch
no
wild sun
i don't get how one wouldn't be
dense cradle
bdk kind of isnt
frosty mango
aren't all tanks preventative?
laughs in bdk
frosty mango
Monk also isn’t
dense cradle
well you need to be preventive in the sense you dont die 100-0 in one swing
wild sun
my thoughts were like but all tanks use defensives that's preventative
lusty grotto
aren't all tanks preventative?
you play a vdh
you soul cleave
it heals
thats reactive
lusty grotto
yes, meaning you can correct mistakes
plush tendon
VDH is not really reactive though
jagged pier
its not self sustain its part of the classes toolkit
plush tendon
like, you are pretty much always absorbing souls
like, I aint saving them for a damage intake
lone hemlock
my thoughts were like but all tanks use defensives that's preventative
With Brew, my main, you have defensives to deal with in-coming damage; however, their damage curve is so smooth you can use them after getting hit to prevent more incoming damage and just react to what you took with your own self-sustain. Their stagger mechanic means you can just react to damage instead of predicting it in most cases.
keen star
VDH is not really reactive though
if you drop low you can probably decide to soul cleave more to heal up
plush tendon
if you drop low you can probably decide to soul cleave more to heal up
its not soul cleave that heals, its absorbing the souls from Fracture with soul cleave
lusty grotto
VDH does both at the same time
plush tendon
but you are always absorbing souls
wild sun
i'll just look up icyveins thanks lads
frosty mango
Man all these people talking like they’re going to roll into taz hm tomorrow and get all this mythic gear
I can’t wait for the tears
lusty grotto
that guy actually needs help, we're not doing this tangent
plush tendon
I think its important...
plush tendon
like, dont spam soul cleave thinking its gonna heal without souls
lone hemlock
Man all these people talking like they’re going to roll into taz hm tomorrow and...
It's fine, if anyone in my group dies, we just all re-roll new characters and try again. It's called efficiency.
trail forge
Rolling in tomorrow is just stupid. Wait until the end of the week and an extra 15 ilvls so you at least have half a chance
lusty grotto
like, dont spam soul cleave thinking its gonna heal without souls
you dont spam death strike without runic power, so whats your point
frosty mango
Rolling in tomorrow is just stupid. Wait until the end of the week and an extra ...
People will begin complaining within two hours tomorrow that it’s overtuned
jagged pier
Rolling in tomorrow is just stupid. Wait until the end of the week and an extra ...
wait unless yoru certain
theres also extra mechanics u need to worry about too
its not just the dungeon but more hp
frosty mango
wait unless yoru certain
The people I’m referring to are not certain. They may be certain - I’m also certain that they will die immediately
wispy moth
Man all these people talking like they’re going to roll into taz hm tomorrow and...
"it's too hard wtf blizzard" in coming
jagged pier
The people I’m referring to are not certain. They may be certain - I’m also cer...
yer
frosty mango
its not just the dungeon but more hp
Yeah and most people are not tracking the extra mechanics
ruby hornet
Does anyone here do log reviews?
lusty grotto
plenty of us
jagged pier
Does anyone here do log reviews?
ye
lusty grotto
but luerce has been managing it a whole lot
wispy moth
Maybe I'll test it too but never did the dung during SL so it'll be fun
frosty mango
Does anyone here do log reviews?
There’s a log review channel if you post it there someone will go over it
ruby hornet
TY
keen star
if you had to do hm tazavesh with 4 tanks 1 healer which healer would be the best? shaman?
trail forge
I'm thinking I'll do it on alts first to give main max chance to not fuck it
wild sun
oh also, did i fuck up by choosing tauren to be my prot warrior?
lone hemlock
People will know the mechanics inside and out, they will be prepared for 95% of them after having watched so many videos and guides. Then they will get to the first boss and not realize the DPS checks are beyond their ilvl and capabilities and then the complaining will begin.
wispy moth
Does anyone here do log reviews?
You can create a thread in #1347646810457636974 if you want
ruby hornet
Perfect! TY
wispy moth
oh also, did i fuck up by choosing tauren to be my prot warrior?
Nah did the same, best race
frosty mango
If you want
lusty grotto
oh also, did i fuck up by choosing tauren to be my prot warrior?
not really, races arent really important until you get close to title range
wispy moth
Don't listen to jealous
frosty mango
Immediate feedback
lone hemlock
oh also, did i fuck up by choosing tauren to be my prot warrior?
Race does not matter unless you are pushing the level of content where you know which race is the best race and why, but Tauren is a great race for tank.
wild sun
Nah did the same, best race
truth be told i just saw "stamina increased" and stomp also made sense to me
lusty grotto
those are meh
frosty mango
You can post logs here but it’s hard to really action it bc the channel moves quickly
wispy moth
The only races that matters are night elves and dwarf, only if you mean running 20+
lusty grotto
but race doesnt matter anyway
wild sun
also big guy good tank
keen star
oh also, did i fuck up by choosing tauren to be my prot warrior?
tauren stomp is great for m+
lusty grotto
it really isnt
keen star
it's off gcd isnt it
wispy moth
truth be told i just saw "stamina increased" and stomp also made sense to me
It was but now the Stam buff is meaningless like 500k total hp Nad the stomp is so bad I never use it
lusty grotto
its DRable
frosty mango
tauren stomp is great for m+
Until you realize it never works bc it drs with fucking everything
wispy moth
it's off gcd isnt it
No, and its a cast
wild sun
drs?
lusty grotto
diminishing return
wispy moth
Casted stun + limit target cap
jagged pier
drag reduction system?
keen star
No, and its a cast
I remember it being a cast that you can do during GCD back in shadowlands
azure crag
Huh...you know, I'm honestly surprised the one button rotation does prot warrior so well. It's not good
But its better than most of the tanks
neon elk
So, not a war question , but does anybody else has recently a weird issues where game froze for few seconds ( sometimes also turning screen black) ??
wispy moth
I remember it being a cast that you can do during GCD back in shadowlands
They change it
wild sun
It's a mechanic that means you can't chain CC a mob
nah that's so lame wtf
tepid sparrow
yay, it works. rage instead of stacks
keen star
They change it
oh wow then highmountain is way better
jagged pier
Huh...you know, I'm honestly surprised the one button rotation does prot warrior...
i dont know where those number come from but that seems wrong
dense cradle
Yeah if we’re talking usefulness its likely meld or stoneform
dense cradle
but races hardly matter
azure crag
i dont know where those number come from but that seems wrong
New wowhead article
frosty mango
I tested one button and it was definitely more than a 20% loss
wispy moth
oh wow then highmountain is way better
Yup, almost all sub races are "I'm you but better" vibe x)
jagged pier
yes where do they get their numbers from?
lusty grotto
sure
dense cradle
Yup, almost all sub races are "I'm you but better" vibe x)
dwarf vs dark iron
azure crag
It doesn't play any of the tanks particularly well, but it seemingly does prot warrior the best
wispy moth
dwarf vs dark iron
Troll vs troll zandalari back in early bfa haha
neon elk
see this <https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1mm43ht/if_youve_been_having_ran...
Ill try that , thanks
undone beacon
just play a goblin warrior, ez
frosty mango
Low key I tried one button and I thought it was awful, not because of its dps but pressing one button repeatedly actually gets painful
wispy moth
But y, overall, race is just a cosmetic matter
dense cradle
regular troll is just better
lusty grotto
Ill try that , thanks
its also under windows security, not settings btw
wispy moth
regular troll is just better
Yeah but back in bfa, zandalari where far better
The haste proc was insane
undone beacon
Low key I tried one button and I thought it was awful, not because of its dps bu...
bind it to scroll wheel like bears do with ironfur
azure crag
yes where do they get their numbers from?
No idea, you'd have to ask wowhead
keen star
its also under windows security, not settings btw
just press windows button and search core isolation or memory integrity
jagged pier
It doesn't play any of the tanks particularly well, but it seemingly does prot w...
no its really bad it doesnt press our cds
keen star
i dont need the help bro
I'm just commenting
buoyant sparrow
We shoot for 21,000 haste right?
wild sun
thanks for the input lads, tho how does one even get logs?
wispy moth
Well back to work, cya!
jagged pier
like it presses nothing for us
azure crag
It doesn't press anybody's cooldowns
lusty grotto
thanks for the input lads, tho how does one even get logs?
#protection message (can use raider.io, bigwigs, dbm, and other addons instead of loggerhead)
or have someone log for you
frosty mango
like it presses nothing for us
One-ish button rotation (tm)
azure crag
the one button rotation is bad. But it's the LEAST BAD at prot warrior, apparently
keen star
It doesn't press anybody's cooldowns
at least it presses the 1 min abilities for VDH
wild sun
i dunno why anyone would one button a tank?
jagged pier
this smells like we pulled the numbers out of no where
neon elk
its also under windows security, not settings btw
Yap found it, thanks
jagged pier
like if u arent pressing cds is that covered in the sims
etc etc
so many variables
i would trust those numbers at all
prime sphinx
ehh those numbers are clearly not correct. every otherspec is very specific - all the warrior ones are 5/10/20 clearly its just guess or summit
it barely spends rage
azure crag
I wonder what da fuck happened here, cause Jesus christ blood dk
lusty grotto
dont think it matters
jagged pier
doesnt even cover SB or IP
etc that number just seems wrong
unless the sims are using SC demo avatar
azure crag
The one button assist can't play blood at all
jagged pier
keeping SB up
keen star
dayum VDH's 1button presses even immo aura, sigil of flame and reaver's glaive. you can easily get 3k rio with that provided you have a good healer
lunar flare
the one button rotation is bad. But it's the LEAST BAD at prot warrior, apparent...
It’s “bad” at performing 100% optimally, sure. But I can go on a rat alt and fuck around with my friends without feeling like I need to learn what a bunch of spells do. For casual content it’s great
keen star
pwar will spend rage on revenge and then you can't IP so I wouldn't recommend to 1button a pwar
azure crag
Indeed. As someone who refuses to learn how to play a DPS spec, I appreciate the one button rotation letting me just mess around with them without much loss
lunar flare
It’s a neat accessibility tool imo
keen star
Indeed. As someone who **refuses to learn how to play a DPS spec**, I appreciate...
true if you can't find a raid pug that doesn't already have 2 tanks, 1button is a godsend
just to get your crests or tier pieces or whatever
lunar flare
Obviously you have people viewing its viability as a competitive tool which I feel goes beyond its main goals. But tbh with some of the people I’ve seen in guilds, OBR would help them lol
Mandate every player over 45 to use it
lusty grotto
suddenly we're back to 4 months ago
anyway, i wonder if Archi knows where these numbers are coming from
keen star
Obviously you have people viewing its viability as a competitive tool which I fe...
they don't use it though I did a couple M0s with a resident roleplayer from our guild called Variann and he didn't use OBR despite me suggesting it to him 3 times and he rather just did healer dps
wild sun
It’s “bad” at performing 100% optimally, sure. But I can go on a rat alt and fuc...
also i've seen people comment shit like "i have muscle dysmorphia and this has been great for me" and honestly i won't shit on one button ever again, i just don't have to use it
lunar flare
also i've seen people comment shit like "i have muscle dysmorphia and this has b...
Exactly man, these are the people it’s aimed at! They said it’s an accessibility tool IIRC. In that respect, it’s a huge win
jagged pier
as i have said many times those macros and buttons have been around for ages and you ahve played with ppl using them and not noticed
but ppl seem to take offense to that
plus its great for accessibility
wild sun
ngl i still have no idea if i'm supposed to use macros
lusty grotto
its also great for the one guy last night that "couldnt kick"
wild sun
i know i'm not breaking rules with macros, just dunno how they even function
lusty grotto
and was asking for a dps class that "didnt need to kick"
lunar flare
they don't use it though I did a couple M0s with a resident roleplayer from our ...
I mean players who are firmly in the “unconscious incompetence” stage of learning is another issue altogether
lusty grotto
on a prot warrior channel, mind you
wild sun
and was asking for a dps class that "didnt need to kick"
ngl is there even a class that can't kick? maybe disc priest off the top of my head?
keen star
maybe some warlock?
azure crag
As an accessibility tool, it's great, yeah. And a huge improvement to the game.
I do see the potential issue of "If this tool can play my class better than I can, then what's the point of even trying to learn it?"
It kinda sets a hard floor on what is and isn't a good performance
wild sun
maybe some warlock?
oh because only one pet kicks?
keen star
oh because only one pet kicks?
maybe but I'm not sure
lusty grotto
warlock def kicks
lunar flare
As an accessibility tool, it's great, yeah. And a huge improvement to the game.
...
Then we enter the OBR singularity. Prepare yourselves. Midnight isn’t just a stat squish, it’s a button squish too 😂
frosty mango
@ruby hornet I left you some feedback
ruby hornet
TY
neon elk
Lock has kick ( all specs i believe) then u have boomy and SP that actualy has silence not a kick but i guess that counts
ionic fern
Jep, lock just needs Felhunter out for kicks.
frosty mango
felguard demo has 2 kicks right?
keen star
boomy's main target is an interrupt and SP has a kick with a longer CD iirc
ionic fern
felguard demo has 2 kicks right?
Not sure..
frosty mango
all I know is it sends me when non demo locks dont summon an imp for dispel fights when no kicks are needed
karmic plinth
runic granite
It’s unironically a worse kick
tepid sparrow
probably a duh but...675 shield w/ duskthread or upgrade a veteran one to 691?
tepid sparrow
thank you
lusty grotto
wat
frozen berry
Is tier available from m0 vault this week?
lusty grotto
likely
and delves
unless they made a change specifically for this season
just gotta get lucky on vault
frosty mango
frosty mango
people are signing up
agile elbow
The dream is alive
frosty mango
lusty grotto
The dream is alive
only in our hearts
mortal cypress
I like that the priest is called "Acryforhelp" with an arms tank
lusty grotto
it is indeed a nice touch
toxic pewter
FINALLY JUST DIE ALREADY
tepid sparrow
hell yes
lusty grotto
grats apb
toxic pewter
it helps a lot to see shit
tepid sparrow
apparently disabling anti aliasing also helps with the red outline
frosty mango
so
tropic marsh
The MT talent of Storm Shield only gives the person you intervene the shield right?
frosty mango
just no threat
if you had some type of threat modifier it could 100% do low level keys lol
toxic pewter
The MT talent of Storm Shield only gives the person you intervene the shield rig...
yes just that dude u intervened gets it
harsh trellis
u guys need weak aura to disable ui during clone phase
Please
lunar flare
what is it we can spellblock on kyveza?
toxic pewter
oof that is wrong link sec
lusty grotto
you can deflect the daggers but its w/e
lunar flare
okay thank you
frigid valley
https://wago.io/kyvezaHideUI1
for the record I did not create this or anything ...
so this is a weakaura that presses ALT z for you?
or what
im confused
toxic pewter
yes basically
frigid valley
just press alt z
toxic pewter
alt z's during clones so u can see them better
well yeah you can do that too I guess
toxic pewter
but it also sort of triggers u like clones coming now
toxic pewter
cuz i dont have any timers or anything for it
frigid valley
lunar flare
but it also sort of triggers u like clones coming now
She literally does the same abilities in the same order every time, doesn't she?
frigid valley
when she vanishes you have like 6 seconds or something to press alt z
lunar flare
What timers do you need
toxic pewter
yeah
lusty grotto
just remember, if your ui is THAT cluttered, maybe its time to revise it
toxic pewter
when she vanishes you have like 6 seconds or something to press alt z
youre talking about a different ability im talking about the clones that throw daggers
when the daggers come out it alt z's
warm plinth
The man is just trying to offer a helpful wa. If you don't need it, don't use it smh
frigid valley
yeah ok fair wrong mechanic, dont change much in my answer tho xD
toxic pewter
ok
frigid valley
but yah, feel free if it helps you
lusty grotto
yeah ghash is correct
warm plinth
He found it helpful so it stands to reason that others will too
lunar flare
any1 got a prob i will 1v1 u right now in game
Do it, you'll win
frigid valley
any1 got a prob i will 1v1 u right now in game
il give u my postcode and grasslength and we can do it irl once u find me
toxic pewter
I am the world's #1 vulpera arms warrior (solo shuffle season 2 2025)
warm plinth
I'll lose 1v1 irl too
lunar flare
He found it helpful so it stands to reason that others will too
It's ok to disagree with people as well though, nobodys being rude i dont think
warm plinth
Disagree with what lol
toxic pewter
I will crush u
lusty grotto
i dont think that counts as disagreeing at all
lunar flare
Not arguing with someone whose avatar is using 3d tech from 1995
toxic pewter
have u solo'd her
warm plinth
...what
toxic pewter
WHO HERE HAS SOLO'D HEER
lunar flare
WHO HERE HAS SOLO'D HEER
80% 🙁
warm plinth
I have not soloed her apb
toxic pewter
ok talk to me when u solo her
lunar flare
Can I not talk to you as I solo her
toxic pewter
monks are not real class so that does not count, sorry
frigid valley
says the fucking vulpera LOL
frigid valley
im dad to you
toxic pewter
NO
jagged gust
Brann in an absolute troll in the ?? fight
jagged gust
Like my guy, please, MOVE
frigid valley
or since ur a vulp, u can call me "daddixoxo"
warm plinth
He truly is
lunar flare
Brann in an absolute troll in the ?? fight
Dude I was standing in the doorway checking something and he just runs in and starts the fight for me, its unhinged
toxic pewter
SND COORDS
warm plinth
I'll be in a delve and sap something on my rogue to click an objective and he's just like SURELY YOU MEANT TO JOUST
Someone needs to get him under control
toxic pewter
XD
jagged gust
We can disable "brann" in visions, why not in delves?
toxic pewter
dude brann is actually the biggest hindrance of any delve
dud pulled boss like 30 times
lunar flare
Delete Brann
warm plinth
#PutBrannInBubblesPlace #JusticeForBubbles
frigid valley
dude brann is actually the biggest hindrance of any delve
i had a pull where kyveza bugged the fuck out so she never dashed around, all mirrors were still, so i picked the one she started at and died anyways
lunar flare
Fuck Bubbles
Fuck both Brann, Bubbles, and all other characters whose name starts with the letter B
jagged gust
Fuck Balexstrasza
lunar flare
I would laugh react to that but apparently we're not trusted to use emoji here
lusty grotto
Broxigar though
toxic pewter
i had a pull where kyveza bugged the fuck out so she never dashed around, all mi...
yeah sounds about right lmao
the fight actually has some weird situations kinda
on some pulls especially with dps brann
lusty grotto
Broxigar the Red would punch you in the eyes for that comment
cerulean tusk
TLDR me, we still yappin' about IP being the spender?
lunar flare
i had a pull where kyveza bugged the fuck out so she never dashed around, all mi...
Mine just pick random positions outside the original shape
frigid valley
wtf
jagged pier
toxic pewter
omg lmao
jagged gust
If Brann pops his CDs during the ground pizza phase, he'll just drop his puddle wherever he's standing, and sometimes even when he doesn't pop his CDs, dude just /laughs at me as I get sucked into the void with the power of 1000 suns
cerulean tusk
Mine just pick random positions outside the original shape
frigid valley
Mine just pick random positions outside the original shape
which one is me ?
: Yes
lunar flare
Whilst saying something like "yer haff ter dodge!"
lunar flare
Sylvanas
jagged gust
It'll be part of her penance
lunar flare
She's done collecting souls, but her worst punishment awaits: infinite delves
cerulean tusk
Sylvannas is currently in the maw, forever hunting souls to save that already is turned to soulash - as such, an impossible forever lasting task
jagged gust
But she has a dwarven accent
frigid valley
probably Dagran Thaurissan or some fucking dragonisle shit npc
agile elbow
Maybe they'll do the smart thing and get rid of delves in Midnight but we can dream
cerulean tusk
Whats wrong with delves as content?
toxic pewter
probably Dagran Thaurissan or some fucking dragonisle shit npc
oh yeah true i can see that dude but then again another dwarf would be kinda bleh imo
dont get me wrong i love dwarfs
lol
frigid valley
oh yeah true i can see that dude but then again another dwarf would be kinda ble...
racist
jagged gust
Whats wrong with delves as content?
they should be puzzles imo
lunar flare
probably Dagran Thaurissan or some fucking dragonisle shit npc
Wouldn't mind the stoneboi
cerulean tusk
Delves are perfect for the ones they are designed for
Content is quite popular, just not by the main mass of players that raid/m
lusty grotto
i like brann
warm plinth
I enjoy delves. They're a vibe.
frigid valley
Delves are perfect for the ones they are designed for
cerulean tusk
How da fuk
toxic pewter
omg..
lunar flare
Good heavens
cerulean tusk
Mods, ban that guy
toxic pewter
LOL
warm plinth
Idk how many ive done but probably not 1000 considering ive only played wow 2 months
frigid valley
FUCKING LOVE DELVES
sharp gale
toxic pewter
oh with the fickergate situation can i do those in lvl 1 delves and like what actually 'triggers' them to appear
warm plinth
Okay that's actually insane though. I've only seen like 3 of those lmao
frigid valley
oh with the fickergate situation can i do those in lvl 1 delves and like what ac...
spam folly lvl1 and look at spawnpoints while falling down, leave if none are up, rinse repeat
lunar flare
I'd like a game mode for delves similar to Torghast where it scales higher and you just get stupid powers that are fun to play with
toxic pewter
spam folly lvl1 and look at spawnpoints while falling down, leave if none are up...
oh so are they already spawned at the beginnning of the delve
frigid valley
ya
frigid valley
and in folly u can see 6 out of 7 spawnspots while falling
toxic pewter
interesting
warm plinth
Just to be clear those are not the finish delve early gates. They're the ones that spawn a rare
toxic pewter
oh hmm
warm plinth
Right
nocturne spindle
the heck is a flicker gate
toxic pewter
ya that is wat i want is the gates
warm plinth
Well I mean they arent a big ass waygate
toxic pewter
that is all i would be doing them for
warm plinth
They're a small void rip type thing
frigid valley
u also get alot of these
lunar flare
what're the differences between kyveza ? and ??
abilities are cast a lot quicker and during the portals u drop theres pizza slices to dodge
toxic pewter
6 daggers instead of 3
mighty valley
hard to believe since he mostly just sat in portals and died in my ? kill
mighty valley
can't wait
well, i can wait
i'll probably just get some week 1-2 gear first
10 min fight does not sound fun
toxic pewter
ngl tho, when she drops to 35% hp.. it went quicker than I expected
execute went burrrrrr
undone beacon
The BJailer
lusty grotto
im just waiting until tomorrow cause im convinced they are incapable of leaving achieves up for people that did it natty afterwards
frigid valley
at least 200 hours of delves in about a year
ive done around 200 more since that image
torn gulch
i don't mind delves but not to that degree i have about 150-ish
warm plinth
im just waiting until tomorrow cause im convinced they are incapable of leaving ...
Yeah, I think that's smart
toxic pewter
I used my delver mana schematic before tomrorow oof I hope it still gives me it lol
torn gulch
need to slide into a deathless tazavesh run next week
warm plinth
In other news, I decided to eat a small amount of jalapeno cheddar cheetos as a snack before bed last night and woke up at 3am to acid reflux trying to assassinate me
toxic pewter
need to slide into a deathless tazavesh run next week
yeah dang I want to do that but something tells me if i pug it it wont go well lol
lusty grotto
LOL
lunar flare
cant u just go into a pug and immediately die to grief the group
warm plinth
Experience? Logic? Common sense? XD
torn gulch
yeah dang I want to do that but something tells me if i pug it it wont go well ...
it won't every boss has hard mode mechanics and they are pretty hard
undone beacon
ive done around 200 more since that image
just doing the 24 T8s to get my chars their vaults made me wanna die, you a crazy man
toxic pewter
In other news, I decided to eat a small amount of jalapeno cheddar cheetos as a ...
dude acid reflux is not a good time I also have that issue
torn gulch
dude acid reflux is not a good time I also have that issue
he fired an acid javelin from his mouth
warm plinth
I usually only have it when I fall asleep soon after eating (like by accident watching tv or something). I did not think I would suffer for a handful of cheetos but god daaaamn
lunar flare
You could just not eat ultra processed foods before bed
toxic pewter
yep same its all about the food situation
toxic pewter
lol
undone beacon
eat one meal a day in the dead middle of your waking hours
undone beacon
works well enough for me
warm plinth
That's actually what I usually do 😂
lunar flare
eat one meal a day in the dead middle of your waking hours
just dont eat, problem solved
undone beacon
just dont eat, problem solved
sounds like my college experience
lunar flare
join gains for gamers and become like your hero gingi
use promo code acidreflux for 10% off
frigid valley
anyways, im so tempted to ditch elvui and go natty style since i just cba setting up every char all the time and fiddle n diddle with addons
lunar flare
default gang
warm plinth
Load in, skip the install, copy from existing profile, ezpz lemon squeezy
gloomy solar
yeah dang I want to do that but something tells me if i pug it it wont go well ...
no timer? four prot warriors and a holy pally.
gloomy solar
actually going to be my strat
ok maybe not prot pally. i'm excited for the aggro war though
lunar flare
is the hardmode mailroom boss the same as in SL when picking up a package roots you in place?
there is no way in hell i am doing that with pugs if so
mighty valley
hopefully we do what we did back then and just outgear + lust
toxic pewter
apparently its tuned like a +10 but not sure if that means anything
lusty grotto
well.. about that
torn gulch
is the hardmode mailroom boss the same as in SL when picking up a package roots ...
yes
wicked jungle
anyways, im so tempted to ditch elvui and go natty style since i just cba settin...
I did do that recently and I don’t regret it, very long time AtrocityUI user
torn gulch
with the way mechanics are in hardmode you can kinda cosider tazavesh HM as a 5 person raid
gloomy solar
anyways, im so tempted to ditch elvui and go natty style since i just cba settin...
If you hate it, you can always use a unit-frames only addon (e.g Shadowed unit frames)
wicked jungle
Between Cell and CellUnitFrames everything else is just default except for some profiles and addons, ElvUI despite being optimized and shit is just not as stable unless you have a very new processor with 3D cache
wicked jungle
If you hate it, you can always use a unit-frames only addon (e.g Shadowed unit f...
Or just use the Cell function for the frames as well, lighter and you keep everything in one addon rather than having two
gloomy solar
Or just use the Cell function for the frames as well, lighter and you keep every...
O i don't use cell i'm a heathen. SUF for that too
lusty grotto
cell isnt lighter than elvui, thats a misconception
wicked jungle
Well Cell does handle couple things only
lusty grotto
yes
wicked jungle
Whereas ElvUI is a complete overhaul
lusty grotto
correct
wicked jungle
Idk what’s the difference between them performance wise to be fair so I wouldn’t take any sides
frigid valley
id like standard frames far more if i could pull it, iow making it longer
wicked jungle
I just believe that game performs slightly better since I’ve removed ElvUI
lunar flare
To be honest, I love the default life, but it's a misconception that it's free of any configuration. You just end up downloading separate addons to handle other stuff
lunar flare
i think Elvui can look really nice, just not personally a fan of all the UI windows being black boxes
lusty grotto
if only they got rid of that homage to vanilla/classic
mighty valley
to each their own, i hate the elvui look
warm plinth
ElvUI is fully customizable though. Black boxes are just the base visual.
rigid hull
lunar flare
I guess most people these days get a "free" elvui profile by subbing to a youtuber or something
warm plinth
I'm not a big fan of doing that; there's always something I don't like and then I have to try to figure out how they changed it to that
lunar flare
Yeah you're heavily reliant on however they've set it up
warm plinth
I like Naowh's if I'm watching Naowh (which isn't often since I'm not a big stream watcher), but I don't like it for my own UI
lusty grotto
but naowh is especially clean
lunar flare
i too only sub to streamers who shower regularly
wet lichen
there is no way in hell i am doing that with pugs if so
No it's newly added in this patch and it's bullshit
outer thorn
"Warrior Colossus 11.2 Class Set 2pc - Demolish damage increased by 20% and critical strike damage of your abilities is increased by up to 20% on targets affected by your Demolish for 10 sec based on the number of stacks of Colossal Might consumed." Does this give 20% crit damage to the demolish cast that triggers the effect too?
wet lichen
is the hardmode mailroom boss the same as in SL when picking up a package roots ...
no it's added newly in this patch and it's bullshit
it didn't root you or anyone at all
warm plinth
Yes it did o_O
lunar flare
100% rooted you back in the day
warm plinth
Hard mode absolutely rooted you; you had to either use a root break, pass it to others, or pass it to yourself
pallid quiver
just cheat engine out of the root smh
wet lichen
oh in hard mode it did ?
lunar flare
Yeah
warm plinth
In hard mode, yes
wet lichen
didn't know bout that
pallid quiver
Yeah, hard mode only; not mythic
wet lichen
still bullshit
warm plinth
Normal fight did not and doesn't (to my knowledge) in M+
lunar flare
Normal fight did not and doesn't (to my knowledge) in M+
Yeah just normal mode for M+
pallid quiver
This season M+, it will not root you
wet lichen
ye in m+ it didn't root
but didn't know in hard mode
well anyway, even with a premade it will be nearly imposible to do it deathless
lunar flare
I like the idea, I just think you should be able to retry infinitely rather than losing the buff and having to wait until reset
lusty grotto
well anyway, even with a premade it will be nearly imposible to do it deathless
i doubt that
certainly not anywhere near impossible
people know the encounters
warm plinth
Yeah the hard mode stuff is basically:
1st boss: you fight miniboss and boss at the same time
Mail boss: roots you during the package phase while holding a package
Oasis: Instruments spawn and try to kill you in various ways
Menagerie boss: Bosses come in on a timer rather than when the previous gets low/dies (can't remember which it was)
So'azmi: room is permanently split instead of only during the technique phase, and it's triple technique instead of double (requiring 3 kicks instead of 2)
Hylbrande: only console user can see the runes, and new add casts lightning nova that will stun the party if not handled
Hooktail: adds have to be breathed on twice to die
So'leah: have to spread collapsing star instead of one doing all (due to the debuff), stars suck you in when you soak one, and the big orb/lines thing has to have all done at the same time or they reset
Thanks for coming to my ted talk
lunar flare
would you rather do tazavesh hard mode with 4 pugs who got 1000 score in m+ last season
or
4 branns
warm plinth
what does that dude even do; I had a quest to meet him or something
lusty grotto
valorstones