is it legal to put where my ravaging keybind is
#protection
lofty warren
final mist
Meta shit doesn't fuckin' matter when you're capping out at +10s
mighty valley
is it legal to put where my ravaging keybind is
no you will go to prison
molten arch
I agree meta groups are over rated
lusty grotto
its kind of a snowball, since people are so inclined to look at the meta and copy it
mighty valley
yes of course, what is your ravager keybind
strong forum
meta doesnt matter until 1 key level below whatever current max is, sometimes less
lusty grotto
and then decline people that do not fit it
lofty warren
will colusus ever use ravager?
lusty grotto
in pugging, for example
mighty valley
will colusus ever use ravager?
no one knows what the future holds. for now, the passive is better
lofty warren
i mean the version wher it needs to use a keybind
strong forum
keep the same keybind for ravager
dont put something else there
use a new keybind for demolish if you never played it
i put my demolish on 5
usually nothing is on there
lofty warren
5
strong forum
xdd
final mist
and then decline people that do not fit it
fym, surely I'm going to fail this +4 because I have a prot warrior and not a vdh
lofty warren
i actualy have stance dance macro on 5
round pendant
my stance macro is ctrl+q
strong forum
mine is shift+t
lofty warren
ravager is not used and on such a good key
round pendant
I don't think I've pressed it once this expac
final mist
Mine is shift-mouse scroll up
lofty warren
on n6 with is mouse button
final mist
^
strong forum
prot i did for parse wh oring
undone beacon
The only meta tank SHOULD be VDH because it would be really weird to give meta to other specs
Just sayin
exotic gazelle
do we literally only ever use IP as a way to not overcap rage?
strong forum
nah its more nuanced than that
strong forum
but ideally for damage output, yes
defensively you weave IP depending on incoming damage and current rage meter
undone beacon
https://tenor.com/view/femboy-venti-gif-humor-gif-9614297636392398032
getting called out with my own gifs now DAMN
mighty valley
until you get to pretty high keys, you could press it exclusively to prevent overcap rage and do great
you'd still press it a lot
it's a great starting point until the burst damage gets drastic
lofty warren
i replaced unused ravager talent for short term convenence ill be sure to complain if i have to use demolish and rager at the same time as keybinds
mighty valley
why do you have shift-g bound but not g
lofty warren
g is for spear
mighty valley
but you don't have spear
lofty warren
well i do as MT.. same thing with ravager that was N6 where demolish is in the SS
mighty valley
why not just use the same keybind for roar and spear since you never have both
and they play basically the same role
lofty warren
ohh maybe
mighty valley
why are your keybinds in such a random order lmao
throw is on 3? aoe taunt is on 4? you're on some next level shit brother
jagged gust
Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary or a gamer their keybinds
lofty warren
my throw glaive is on 3 I cant move it for pwar
vast sierra
Hey, Im wondering if it will be possible to get a tier set piece in M0's vault slots next week ?
jagged pier
we dont know, theres a chance
dusky canopy
Heroic tier in delv slot would be massive jump start to the season
jagged pier
well they are a season vault so theoretically they can have tier in, but we dont know till reset
lusty grotto
its been the case so its safe to assume so
people will be looking for vault slots to upgrade gear anyway so
besides theres nothing else to do
jagged pier
im away this weekend and its pokemon time for train journeys 
lusty grotto
nice nice
mortal cypress
I was buying each major bf game that came out, but never played online because its too random to me. Then i stopped buying them as I realised all I was doing was the short SP story and ooooohing and the gfx
lusty grotto
BF story...?
the only good BF stories are bad company 1 and 2
the rest is whatever
mortal cypress
Exactly
dusky canopy
im away this weekend and its pokemon time for train journeys <a:nodders:12034653...
I should get into PokĆ©mon again, whatās the latest and greatest game called for the switch?
lusty grotto
legends z-a (still not out, oct release)
jagged pier
I should get into PokĆ©mon again, whatās the latest and greatest game called for ...
i play the old games
mortal cypress
Palworld just seems to have it beaten in everyway
dusky canopy
Palworld is irrelevant
jagged pier
i ahve all the gameboy games in the cartridge and my gameboy from whenever it was still works
dusky canopy
Bro that badass!
mortal cypress
Yeah I bought them all upto whatever was on the 3ds
dusky canopy
Pretty sure mine is lingering at my parents place somewhere
lusty grotto
Palworld just seems to have it beaten in everyway
both can exist in parallel, but violet and scarlet being pieces of garbage certainly didnt help the franchise
mortal cypress
both can exist in parallel, but violet and scarlet being pieces of garbage certa...
Sure they can, but Pokemon just seemed clunky as hell in comparison because it still has some of the tropes that seem to have persisted since gameboy which had them due to technical limitations. To be fair, as I said, last I played was 3ds, so they may be way way better now
dusky canopy
legends z-a (still not out, oct release)
Ahh good thatāll be the one I get then
mighty valley
wish they could just take a few years in the tank
but regular releases sell regardless of how bad they get
lusty grotto
my thoughts exactly
jagged pier
the new ones have been aweful and gett worse each time imo
ORAS was great
after that š
dusky canopy
The last one I played was on 3ds I think I had āwhiteā
I enjoyed my time with that one personally
lusty grotto
sw/sh was okayish, i enjoyed it but really mid overall
jagged pier
sun and moon were good
š¤® lets have more dialogue than game play
lusty grotto
well youre not wrong
dusky canopy
The open world thing on the switch seems pretty cool
lusty grotto
NO
final mist
I do competitive and the last few gens have been really disappointing for me mainly from that viewpoint. Story and gameplay was kind of sub-par all around for them too.
dusky canopy
You donāt like it Nim?
final mist
^
lusty grotto
violet/scarlet sucks
dusky canopy
Iām not familiarized with modern PokĆ©mon whatsoever
lusty grotto
the switch can handle it
dusky canopy
Havenāt touched it on probably 15 years
lusty grotto
botw exists
dusky canopy
Maybe a little less
lusty grotto
the devs cant
final mist
The switch 2 came out and the games got 100% better to run
Game Freak devs are just
Hilariously inept
lusty grotto
jagged pier
not really they showed of games lagging in there commercial for the console
dusky canopy
Is the switch 2 really an improvement?
lusty grotto
yes
wicked jungle
The switch 2 came out and the games got 100% better to run
Yes but imagine having played it on S1 and now seeing how it performs
jagged pier
it is. its still nintendo selling u like a psp leave power console in 2025
lusty grotto
which is what im doing
wicked jungle
Is the switch 2 *really* an improvement?
As a day one purchase I will say that it made me want to play BOTW
jagged pier
and selling u $90 games
dusky canopy
Backwards compatibility with switch1 games?
lusty grotto
DK is out, im waiting on Duskbloods and Metroid and then ill instantly buy it
wicked jungle
Compared to switch 1
Keywords - very well spoken
mortal cypress
Is the switch 2 *really* an improvement?
dusky canopy
Ahh cool I might get myself one then my wifeās been wanting a switch so maybe Iāll give her mine and get the 2
Win win
blazing ridge
wicked jungle
The difference with SV is that the world feels much more full of PokƩmon and the higher frame rate makes it even more enjoyable
blazing ridge
4k 120 fps mario kart
lusty grotto
even with those "improvements"
wicked jungle
its so fucking bad
On Switch 2 at least you donāt cringe too much about the quality of the game while playing
lusty grotto
how dare you compare my mom to scarlet/violet
dusky canopy
Lmao
lusty grotto
its a bad pokemon game period
final mist
even with those "improvements"
Competitive actually so bad that I stopped going to tournaments entirely and mainly do smogon ladder xdd
Hate Tera so much
lusty grotto
no
dusky canopy
blazing ridge
Nvm its not 4k but not like it matters on mario kart grahpics
dusky canopy
Oof sadge
dusky canopy
Nvm its not 4k but not like it matters on mario kart grahpics
I donāt play Nintendo games for the graphics
I play them for the vibes
blazing ridge
Exactly
lusty grotto
buy donkey kong for sure Brew
thats one of my big 3
and its great from what ive seen at my brother's
mortal cypress
its so fucking bad
Yeah digital foundry tends to talk purely about technical aspects, not the gameplay at all....was just answering what Brewjj asked
Donkey kong is amazing yeah
dusky canopy
I wonāt lie I have actually never once in my life played a donkey Kong game
Closest thing too it is the DK map on smash bros
blazing ridge
Nintendo probably will have the single best original IPs for the foreseeable future if they could finally get better at online stuff... but they continously push out high quality games
dusky canopy
Lmao
mortal cypress
the new one is as far away from those as you can get, but they have nods to the Rare developed games
lusty grotto
I wonāt lie I have actually never once in my life played a donkey Kong game
you dont need to
mortal cypress
its amazing how you can smash up literally a whole level, but the game still manages to guide you to stuff
lusty grotto
sure
remember there's no real continuity for these games, they are just plug in and play
dusky canopy
Galaxy was pretty fun if Iām thinking of the right one
blazing ridge
Odyssey is so high quality its impeccable compared to your usual AAA cash grab bullshit lol
Its like in another universe and is just fun to play
dusky canopy
The moment Ubisoft guy said āwe will milk gamers wallets as much as possibleā was the moment I stopped giving a shit about big triple A releases
round pendant
There's no real excuse for scarlet/violet being as bad as they are
lusty grotto
even though ill definitely buy it
dusky canopy
Me either they can pound sand
mortal cypress
Odyssey is so high quality its impeccable compared to your usual AAA cash grab b...
Yeah Odyssey was amazing.....and that dance recital/singing level was on another level.....and then when you think you finished the game.....
lusty grotto
last night beta gameplay convinced me
round pendant
pokemon peaked at black and white imo
dusky canopy
Im going to get it also as long as it launches at full expectation or damn near it
lusty grotto
yeah black and white is 100% the peak
blazing ridge
Yeah Odyssey was amazing.....and that dance recital/singing level was on another...
Man I cant wait for the next one... playing it on 120 fps will make me cream lmao xdf
dusky canopy
Yeah white was the last one I played
lusty grotto
thats not to say the following ones were bad
mortal cypress
Man I cant wait for the next one... playing it on 120 fps will make me cream lma...
Have you played Donkey Kong?
dusky canopy
Kinda ruined it for myself though because I had the little cheat pack that they made for the 3ds so I had infinite master balls and all the shiny PokƩmon
As a kid that was cool
lusty grotto
thats illegal
dusky canopy
As an adult I want to actually experience it
lusty grotto
ban this man, remove his achievements
dusky canopy
Lmao
dusky canopy
Yeah itās funny how things come full circle
mighty valley
blazing ridge
Havent played DK yet but will do it soon, will have enough time for it since i broke a foot bone while on vacation 
round pendant
thats not to say the following ones were bad
ORAS was alright, way too easy to the point of being a bit boring with how you just one shot everything throughout the entire game if you know how STAB works
I liked USUM tho
mortal cypress
Havent played DK yet but will do it soon, will have enough time for it since i b...
Ouch....well if you didnt know, the donkey kong devs are the same ones that did odyssey
round pendant
even with the 3 hour tutorial
dusky canopy
As a kid I tried to cheat all my video games to have the best shit
And then one day I woke up and realized I was completely ruining the experience for myself. Since then many years ago I have gone back and replayed a lot of the same games authentically and it was such a good experience
round pendant
rest are garbage
lusty grotto
yeah i def liked USUM
dusky canopy
blazing ridge
Ouch....well if you didnt know, the donkey kong devs are the same ones that did ...
F.. i hope this doesn't mean Odyssey 2 is far in the future...
dusky canopy
What is odyssey btw?
blazing ridge
Mario Odyssey
mortal cypress
F.. i hope this doesn't mean Odyssey 2 is far in the future...
Probs is, but trust me, DK is very very good....open levels like Odyssey, but you can basically destroy the world freely to find treasure, solve puzzles etc
blazing ridge
Yeah games where just running around doing stuff being fun is top
idle copper
do we have an optimum haste before we should start feeding into other stats?
dusky canopy
do we have an optimum haste before we should start feeding into other stats?
42.069%
frosty mango
As a kid I tried to cheat all my video games to have the best shit
And then one ...
Kind of like the opposite of life
lusty grotto
probably around 20k with s2 tier
frosty mango
Cheating life usually gives the best experience
lusty grotto
and like 24k with s3 tier
idle copper
ty
idle copper
you seem like a clever chap, ill take an estimate
blazing ridge
molten arch
Hey is both bis trinkets for prot warrior come from raid? Or we using tome and pace trinkets again
dusky canopy
If you donāt want to sim make sure all your gear haste on it and move on with life
lime mantle
How soon should I get rid of the old tier?
As soon as I got higher ilvl pieces?
lusty grotto
16k minimum with s2 tier to play ITF (otherwise HR), 19-20k minimum to play ITF with s3 tier or without any tier at all
dusky canopy
@lusty grotto you clever chap you!!
lusty grotto
How soon should I get rid of the old tier?
As soon as I got higher ilvl pieces?
when you get 4pc
dusky canopy
blazing ridge
If you donāt want to sim make sure all your gear haste on it and move on with li...
A friend of mine told me if you dont sim you dont play wow for real
molten arch
How soon should I get rid of the old tier?
As soon as I got higher ilvl pieces?
Use 2/2 then 4 piece
lusty grotto
no
dusky canopy
A friend of mine told me if you dont sim you dont play wow for real <:keks:93623...
That is a smart friend
lusty grotto
you dont 2pc 2pc
dusky canopy
Sim is life
molten arch
Really
lusty grotto
read your tier sets
prime sphinx
our 4p currently is very strong
molten arch
I hate reading
lusty grotto
if you have veteran/champ tier though, that's a sim angle
blazing ridge
I hate reading and then joins this discord where have to read between thousand lines of memes
molten arch
Is old tier MT good right now atm? Im still using colossus spec
molten arch
Ok
lime mantle
Thank you.
lusty grotto
even without s2 tier you play colossus
dusky canopy
Here nuances the thatās tracks myth/hero s2 about specifically talking im
lusty grotto
Here nuances the thatās tracks myth/hero s2 about specifically talking im
you thank
dusky canopy
Colossus play you tier s2 without even
blazing ridge
Once you switch just unbind Revenge for a few dungeons to get rid of the habbit of pressing it 
molten arch
Just spam SS and TC now with new tier
blazing ridge
Obviously you want to Revenge once in a while for the deep wound
molten arch
Even with thang build?
molten arch
Gotcha
lusty grotto
as thane
you need it to fish for SS resets if you are severely unlucky and to aoe deep wounds
blazing ridge
Can track deep wound timer on your plater and just refresh when <4s or something like that
lusty grotto
i wouldnt recommend it
molten arch
TC keeps deep wound up right
lusty grotto
dont over commit in tracking shit
no, tc keeps rend up
theres only 2 real things you need to track as prot
molten arch
What's that
lusty grotto
SB and Seeing Red/Outburst
blazing ridge
True
lusty grotto
everything else is just noise
molten arch
That makes sense
molten arch
And we need at least 42% of haste to keep up our SB right
lusty grotto
ratings
and no
you need s2 tier and proper talents
and a specific number of haste rating
which i went over earlier
lusty grotto
molten arch
Im in the hospital atm getting a bone marrow biopsy
lusty grotto
yes you were
molten arch
Cancer sucks
molten arch
Oo well I guess I was there hahaha
lusty grotto
chemo?
molten arch
Yea
lusty grotto
how serious?
blazing ridge
Nice
lusty grotto
oh nice
blazing ridge
Fuck cancer
molten arch
Im here now making sure I'm cancer free
molten arch
Just getting my mind off of it thinking about wow and the new season
Im good my dude I think I'm cancer free
lusty grotto
biopsies can do a number on your mind haha
blazing ridge
Broke the 5th Metatarsal during vacation, sounds small but man I love doing sports and just knowing it will take 3 months to fully heal, if at all, fucking sucks
molten arch
Bro! Bone biopsy is the worst! Thats what I'm about to do now
Anyways let's get back to prot warrior
blazing ridge
Can't wait to play tomorrow when I am back home
molten arch
So we need to switch from old 4 pcs. To knew 4 pcs
ebon scaffold
I just watched Yodas āin depthā prot guide. He mentioned fueled by violence got buffed to 150, didnāt it actually get nerfed to 150?
molten arch
What does the blue post say about us?
lusty grotto
molten arch
š¤£
lusty grotto
its yoda talk time
blazing ridge
Yoda
molten arch
Hahaha
lusty grotto
but to be fair
hes correct
its buffed FROM season 2
it got nerfed during PTR
hes talking specifically between the live versions
ebon scaffold
Okay. I was looking for the blue post but couldnāt find it. Didnāt it go from like 210 to 150 on the ptr
blazing ridge
BV got buffed because we get more rage than last season 
dusky canopy
Final are they until count donāt nerfs ptr
molten arch
Yea that why I don't really pay attention to ptr til the final product
You think well get nerfed alot after RWF?
strong forum
BV got buffed because we get more rage than last season <a:HyperRatJam:800553449...
It did get buffed cuz you don't have "wasted potential" anymore
strong forum
You think well get nerfed alot after RWF?
Before
molten arch
Really?
molten arch
It would have to happen today then right with the nerf?
molten arch
Blue post nerfs if we do get nerfed
strong forum
Yeah but why today
lusty grotto
nerfs arent really done on fridays
molten arch
Gotcha
dusky canopy
Expect thane to get nuked into orbit
strong forum
They can nerf whenver they want to
dusky canopy
Itās doing literally double other tank specs
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
not according to blizzard 
strong forum
More like 10%
dusky canopy
My point of reference is I made that up
lusty grotto
"warrior needs to be deleted" - John "my dad" Blizzard
strong forum
Good
dusky canopy
10% is double according to blizzard
molten arch
Lmao
dusky canopy
Canāt be ahead
lusty grotto
true and real brew
undone beacon
prot is doing negative damage actually and thats where they belong and everyone should spread the message ktahnks
lament osprey
gg, time to re roll prot pally ladies and gents
rough egret
Bear is the only way
solid sun
If they deleted pwar
I would probably play bear
But Iād hope we kept this discord channel
rough egret
š
solid sun
There was a leak on 4chanmmochamp that mentioned a spellbreaker class
If that had a tank spec Iād give it a try just because of how strong the talent itās named after is
tribal wharf
i wish, could get 8tb m.2 , for 45 bucks lmfao, whoever the hell you are, i wish to live in your world so much
frosty mango
More like 10%
Pretty sure itās not even 10% over brew and may not even be over guardian in raid
Sims are one thing but functionally imo guardian st dps will be higher in optimal play
In raid
tribal wharf
8tb m.2 (any of them but lets just say 5.0 for my purposes) is like, equivalant of a got 4000 slot auto sorting and vendoring banking bag upgrade to my main backpack
ebon geyser
Bear is the only way
Now that's a spec that need Jesus at this point
frosty mango
The bear part
most of it's damage is bleeds/dots and any fight that requires you to move away from the boss will see it pull away, mark my words
we wont see that happen bc no bear in rwf
round pendant
i wish, could get 8tb m.2 , for 45 bucks lmfao, whoever the hell you are, i wish...
You said it cost 4000 rupees
š¤·āāļø
frosty mango
but even in s2 well played bear was very on part with war
nocturne spindle
there was some post in the druid discord about degenerate cat build with like a 7% dps increase
tribal wharf
canada rubies
nocturne spindle
so cat weaving druid stonks might be huge
frosty mango
they're already huge?
tribal wharf
not american rupees
frosty mango
damage has never been an issue for guardian in raid
nocturne spindle
huge huge though
tribal wharf
sorry, its easy to get those confused
nocturne spindle
like even more than usual
tribal wharf
so i turn everything into USD price over 1000$
round pendant
Pretty easy to get things confused when you use the literal wrong words for them, yeah
tribal wharf
if i can, or it makes sense
frosty mango
guardian isnt even on the radar so IMO if thane gets nerfed then druid will be the highest single target dps tank in a functional raid setting - now whether or not we see druids in raid is a different story altogether
ebon geyser
guardian isnt even on the radar so IMO if thane gets nerfed then druid will be t...
We won't. Sht, they need help i was watching Kira and it look rough
frosty mango
We won't. Sht, they need help i was watching Kira and it look rough
on druid? in raid?
or on warrior
ebon geyser
on druid? in raid?
M+
ebon geyser
I mean we won't see them in raid either
frosty mango
yeah but not bc of damage
ebon geyser
I would be extremely surprised if they are
frosty mango
because resto is looking very good and there'd be no reason to bring a druid tank if you already have a druid healer
ebon geyser
yeah but not bc of damage
I mean dmg is dmg, they nerf that and might as well delete spec
frosty mango
I mean dmg is dmg, they nerf that and might as well delete spec
raid tanks usually chosen based on spec coverage
as long as damage is competitive, and raid tank damage balance has been very tight for some time
rough egret
but still, class fantasy still carry druid for me
frosty mango
like even with people saying thane is op, like nome was saying, the delta is not very large
ebon geyser
Felbear is great
frosty mango
if anything is like 2% better people cry and scream op
rough egret
Red neon bear for me it is š but thats obvious
shrewd grove
Raid tank is almost always chosen based on the negative. You just fill tanks using whatever you still need after filling the spots that matter
sharp gale
- do you need gorefiend grasp yes/no
glossy wind
Had to fool around with this i got negative frames vs a frost dk in 2s skrim lol
lusty grotto
its for general builds
it doesnt work with onboard video etc
and its very raid/dungeon specific
idk about pvp
but view distance at min in arena should be a good one
just not in BGs
because in there you def want view distance
frosty mango
Torkal didnāt update his sr weakaura yet so I guess Iāll do the raid tonight and push a new copy with proper versioning
neon elk
2h wep counts towarda both 1h and shield on upgrade discounts right?
jagged gust
Don't you have to be in arms spec or something for it to work out that way?
lusty grotto
of course
jagged gust
I definitely didn't lose out on a weeks worth of crests upgrading MH as fury last season
jagged gust
as long as you didn't waste any runed crests
jolly wasp
Sorry if it's been asked/answered already, is it better to play colossus until we get the tier set?
royal mist
Youāll get tier set in no more than 3 weeks. Just play thane and get comfortable with it.
lusty grotto
Sorry if it's been asked/answered already, is it better to play colossus until w...
correct
thane after 4pc
optimally
if you dont care about being optimal play thane, should be fine
jolly wasp
I guessed so, thanks
rigid hull
damn targetin sucks with this exe talents xd
im havin a hard time selecting 35% hp targets
without losing spell up time
lusty grotto
mouseover execute
idle copper
is it a bad idea to use crests this week? better to save them and use on +6 or higher heroe gear next week?
idle copper
ty
lusty grotto
naguura's video has one that's very similar
but carved and weathered crests are worth nothing so just send em
sharp gale
It is runed crests you want to be more greedy, donāt upgrade a 1/8 whatever track when you can free upgrade later
solid sun
New source of myth track gear
If your first attempt at a deathless Taz m0 run is successful youāll get a guaranteed myth track piece
round pendant
You're a guaranteed myth track piece
Too far, man
warm plinth
Can't stop won't stop
snow island
If your first attempt at a deathless Taz m0 run is successful youāll get a guara...
Not sure if it's worth the nitpick, but it's hard mode not m0 right? Iirc hard mode is scaled to m10
frigid plume
Not sure if it's worth the nitpick, but it's hard mode not m0 right? Iirc hard m...
mythic zero IS hard mode
snow island
Oh hell yeah
lusty grotto
yeah the hardmode was just the neck thing
it doesnt really need the neck in this version right?
as in to unlock it
frigid plume
dont think so
lusty grotto
well its not like it was hard to get
frigid plume
lusty grotto
but just an unnecesary step overall
frosty mango
Not sure if it's worth the nitpick, but it's hard mode not m0 right? Iirc hard m...
Also diff mechanics I think?
rancid tiger
So it only exists in m10 mode
Very nice, and hardmode is not about deaths for loot is it
frosty mango
If you die itās basically just a +10
mighty valley
hmm. this is gonna cause some bad blood in some groups lmao
frosty mango
Very unlikely most people can do this week one
prime sphinx
looks like a monday night type activity
shut summit
hard mode has more mechanics too, like pirate dragon adds hafta get hit by 2 breaths or some shit like that
frosty mango
Itās 120/120 on tuning and the additional mechanics will make it tough for pugs early on who are undergeared, especially the mail boss where the cases root you
And the dragon boss where it takes 2 breaths to kill an add
I donāt think most people can even do m0 hooktail without dying
round pendant
hardy snow
we've won 
prime sphinx
was hardmode available on ptr? did it have its old hardmode mechanics
mighty valley
yeah it sounds like mostly old hard mode and then some
frosty mango
didn't they nerf a bunch of stuff on hooktail this season
Itās a straightforward fight but most people are allergic to using their cc buttons and Iām convinced half of them donāt even have them bound - so what I expect to happen is the room gets instantly filled with fire while people run around aimlessly dying to adds
mighty valley
soazmi immediately divides into 4
mighty valley
Itās a straightforward fight but most people are allergic to using their cc butt...
most of the people I play with were around for the og tazavesh season so here's hoping lol
solid sun
But itās always hard mode right
daring narwhal
The Myth loot garanteed loot from deathless is at the end of the run or it's just a vault reward ? It's unclear on wowhead
solid sun
Canāt be just a vault reward because if you complete it with deaths it acts as a +10
Which is myth track
So deathless would be at the end of the dungeon
daring narwhal
It's only once right, or each week ?
solid sun
Each week
solid sun
Yeah but I donāt think many people will be able to do it early on
Itās also limited to only the taz loot
But Taz has good stuff thankfully
hardy snow
Alliance Won?
yes, at least in EU
blazing shuttle
Of course they did.
solid sun
What does winning do
daring narwhal
it's a skin for the delve mount
which is not accessible this week
so nothing afaik
frosty mango
So each week, if you do it right you have a garanteed myth item
It has to be your first run
One shot only
One shot per week
fair beacon
Heyo! Question: so far I have always seen either authority enchants being suggested for our weapons, now the wowhead guide show "Council's Guile" instead (the crit one). is it more viable?
frosty mango
Heyo! Question: so far I have always seen either authority enchants being sugges...
Iāve never known prot to use depths
neon elk
I dont realy like that hardmode reward, they finaly made it possible to loot mythic in dung but it will create so big difference between pugs and premade..
frosty mango
But yes generally the stat ones are bis
fair beacon
for real?! then we should actually go for the crit one as the best now?
frosty mango
for real?! then we should actually go for the crit one as the best now?
In the bis profile yes but you would need to sim yourself to get the best enchant for your given gear
frosty mango
I dont realy like that hardmode reward, they finaly made it possible to loot ...
I mean how is it any diff than a m+
fair beacon
huh, did not expect that tbh, got some reading to do then š
frosty mango
If they said āyour first +17 of the week awards one mythic piece of gearā would that be better?
hardy snow
What does winning do
faction flag will stay at Brann's desk, skin for delve mount mentioned by someone else is granted for participation (and filling to 100%) for your faction
fair beacon
If they said āyour first +17 of the week awards one mythic piece of gearā would ...
yes! then I knew to give up cause that aint happening for me š
frosty mango
yes! then I knew to give up cause that aint happening for me š
Oh, well just pretend then
neon elk
If they said āyour first +17 of the week awards one mythic piece of gearā would ...
Actualy yes ,imho as long as u have more shots on it , that arent even based on your performance i would be up for that
frosty mango
frosty mango
Actualy yes ,imho as long as u have more shots on it , that arent even based ...
Why should you be awarded bis loot that isnāt tied to your performance
neon elk
Let me rephrase it
jagged gust
if you don't loot the final boss after flubbing the HM, can't you run it again after resetting?
frosty mango
if you don't loot the final boss after flubbing the HM, can't you run it again a...
No pretty sure if you die everyone loses the buff and youāre done
neon elk
Im all for it if its based on my performance , i dont like how tazavesh is made now, because i can play pixel perfect and someone else fails it and i loose my reward also
frosty mango
Im all for it if its based on my performance , i dont like how tazavesh is mad...
Mythic plus is a team based event
If you want solo content do delves
quasi cliff
Im all for it if its based on my performance , i dont like how tazavesh is mad...
welcome to wow?
frosty mango
Expecting them to not punish the group in group based content is not reasonable imo
fair beacon
one more thing if I may: if we are to do stat enchant for the weapon, why would the guide go for the "council's guile" (crit) over the "stormrider's fury" (haste)?
neon elk
Like if it was finish X dungeon and u get loot once per week then im fine with it , we wipe and dont time ? Well happens i can go next and try again , but if someone else fails and i lose my reward based on their mistske its kinda meh
frosty mango
I hear your point, just imo expecting to be rewarded for solo performance in group content isnāt aligned with their philosophy
neon elk
Its not just bein punished tho, like depleting a key, u are pretty much permanentky behind on mythic track items unless u myhic raid
jagged gust
one more thing if I may: if we are to do stat enchant for the weapon, why would ...
2 possibilities, it's something nomer missed from S2 when we hard focused crit as colo, or it sims better
frosty mango
Its not just bein punished tho, like depleting a key, u are pretty much perman...
But you can apply this same logic to people who canāt do +10s
neon elk
Nono i dont want to them to reward that for solo performance or content
neon elk
But you can apply this same logic to people who canāt do +10s
But if u cant do 10 then issue is somewhere else and usualy 1 mistske doesnt mean u dont get a item thats there only once per week
frosty mango
But if u cant do 10 then issue is somewhere else and usualy 1 mistske doesnt...
But itās the same logic
jagged gust
Or Mwahi, I keep assuming wowhead is the guide of choice
frosty mango
Youāre operating from your viewpoint saying āitās not fair that people who canāt do that content get the reward and Iām behindā but when itās someone else who canāt do the content itās ok
neon elk
Not realy like that
frosty mango
Thereās tons of players who wonāt be able to do +10s for weeks, wipes or no
neon elk
Im operating from a viewpoint where i dont feel its okey that whole group gets punished for one small mistake , and its punished by being perma behind pretty much
neon elk
Like imagine if vault worked like that , u do your key, someone dies, and u lose whole vault for that week , seems stupid doesnt it ?
frosty mango
Idgaf about loot so as far as Iām concerned we could buy all of loot off the vendor like ptr and id be happy to just do prog raiding and push keys all the time
frosty mango
Like imagine if vault worked like that , u do your key, someone dies, and u lo...
No
The reward justifies the requirement imo
warm plinth
If it didn't have the strict requirement, then it would be kinda wild to give a myth track item for it tbh
Like I understand where Lomm is coming from but if that wasn't the case, then there's no shot it should give a myth item
rigid hull
what should i craft actually?
warm plinth
I don't really agree with that meaning you're permanently behind though. Like you don't know the piece is gonna be an upgrade outside of the first week
Shield>Weapon>Embellishments
neon elk
They should always increase the difficulty of it , or let you reset dung and go again , still requiring deathless run, just giving u more shots for it
rigid hull
Shield>Weapon>Embellishments
im being greedy with weapon actually to do more dam hehe
neon elk
Like make it m15 difficulty let me reset and run again if shit happens
frosty mango
If thereās no timer and they donāt add some sort of gate then it would just be free mythic loot - your personal performance in a dungeon is relevant insofar as you need to carry your weight but you canāt solo a m+ or a hard mode so why would they link the reward to your solo performance
warm plinth
If you're not doing super high keys then it's not the end of the world
frosty mango
That logic makes no sense
frosty mango
Like yes if someone dies and scuffs you for the week that sucks but the content isnāt made for pugs
frosty mango
Itās always super wild to me when people play a game entirely based around group play and then surprise pikachu face when blizz rewards good group play
warm plinth
No idea but I wouldn't make anything this week personally
neon elk
Like yes if someone dies and scuffs you for the week that sucks but the content ...
And thats exactly my issue since star of that debate, gap between pugs and premades is big enough already and they just keeps increasing it
warm plinth
Just gonna recraft it next week if you do
frosty mango
And thats exactly my issue since star of that debate, gap between pugs and prem...
Yes but itās not a solo game
lusty grotto
And thats exactly my issue since star of that debate, gap between pugs and prem...
i dont feel the same way
frosty mango
If you wanna do bleeding edge hard content then get a consistent group and get on comms
lusty grotto
i feel like pugs have been getting better in general
neon elk
Yea but i never asked for any reward for bein solo or whatever
frosty mango
Yea but i never asked for any reward for bein solo or whatever
Youāre also not required to do the content
You said itās not fair that your reward is tied to someone elseās performance
frosty mango
i feel like pugs have been getting better in general
Go pug some 8s late season
lusty grotto
thats to be expected
urban bane
Unsure if late season is representative of the general pug experience throughout a season
frosty mango
Blizz should just give us tournament realm rwf
neon elk
Yea , because if someone else brainlags or dont press defensive or something i lose my shot at loot for whole week , and there is nothing i can do about that, thats what bothers me
chilly brook
Does wowhead have the updated talents for pre-s3 tier?
lusty grotto
pugging has been easier season by season
frosty mango
Does wowhead have the updated talents for pre-s3 tier?
Yeah the colossus talents
jagged gust
I would say based on my experiences the average pug mid season is better than a vast majority of mid-tier mythic raiders, being someone from a mid-tier mythic guild who pugs
warm plinth
Can we talk about the real crime Blizzard has committed?
frosty mango
@strong forum I could go look but you prob know since you wrote it - how many targets need to be available before the apl chooses revenge over execute (if any)if youāre fully stacked at 10 in Colo
jagged gust
also there's a chance you run into nimchips when pugging
warm plinth
Why can't we fly in Undermine so I can stop using this dumb car
frosty mango
also there's a chance you run into nimchips when pugging
This is true it happened to me
neon elk
Real crime is that whole phasing stuff imho , maw 2.0 but worse
warm plinth
I do this crazy thing where I just don't do things I dislike doing
jagged gust
Are you sure wow is the right game for you?
neon elk
I had to try it first to find out i dislike it no?
jagged gust
jokes aside, phasing should get better next week, unless they're gonna timegate it by 1 currency per week
Also isn't the phasing thing purely transmogs and mounts?
neon elk
I guess it is
jagged gust
I get that it sucks when they add content you just don't wanna do
Because why tf am i paying for this
but at least we don't have to do it weekly
yet
lusty grotto
you dont have to do it at all
nobody fucking did dawn hardmoe in DF
it wasnt needed
neon elk
Well there is vendor that sells mounts pets tmogs and such and thats tied to a weekly so if u are into that kinda stuff u "have to do it weekly"
jagged gust
true enough
warm plinth
kek
lusty grotto
outside of the season it came out
neon elk
nobody fucking did dawn hardmoe in DF
Was there mythic track for it tho?
neon elk
Realy ? Did i miss that ? xd
lusty grotto
but nobody fucking touched it
jagged gust
apparently
neon elk
Interesting
lusty grotto
except for r1 players, people in the leaderboards and RWF players
lusty grotto
if you want the stuff for it you can just do it later in the season
but i guarantee that not a lot of folks will be doing it overall
the later the easier, but the harder to get pugs
hardmode big dungeon isnt a factor
its just there
neon elk
Well later in season its gna be less usefull
mighty valley
i liked doing hard mode once blind on release day
lusty grotto
yes
release day
this aint release day for tazavesh
nor it was for dawn after s2
lusty grotto
ive been scratching my head about this conversation all along
lusty grotto
i kinda like that we're getting 2 new dungeons though
mighty valley
but it is more work for iffy gains
mighty valley
yeah, two dungeons that go straight into m+ probably just make more sense
efficiency wise
lusty grotto
long dungeons have just been the norm, its fine for blizzard to be a little bit different from time to time
neon elk
I like this season lots of 3 bosses dungs, no 5 bosses ones
warm plinth
streets is 5 bosses
neon elk
streets is 5 bosses
Damn u just ruined my day
lusty grotto
content type doesnt matter
tall lance
ok thanks guys
modest burrow
lusty grotto
optimallly you want 4set
tall lance
I think you can but the damage won't be there yet
lusty grotto
but can is very open ended
you wont suffer defensively
at all
if thats what you mean
can you? yes you can tank anything with any hero talent
warm plinth
I kinda wanna touch it
neon elk
Do it
lusty grotto
but optimally, you want to be colossus without s3 4pc, and thane with
lusty grotto
simply because of the damage/threat/etc
warm plinth
I lived
neon elk
U didnt touch it hard enough
warm plinth
That was a really long one for being sluice tbh
jagged gust
Sluice always feels way too long
I've never done one that didn't take 30% longer than any other delve
warm plinth
gotta stop pullin like a bitch man
vocal flame
Is there a haste target in order to pick ITF or just sending it anyway
warm plinth
~19k haste rating once you drop season 2 4pc
vocal flame
ah ok thank you
solid sun
@frosty mango should I?
strong forum
<@192743144276623360> I could go look but you prob know since you wrote it - how...
technically at like uh 6?
solid sun
What kind of pot are you using with it?
strong forum
i think its 2-6 where aoe execute is better
frosty mango
What kind of pot are you using with it?
I bought a big ass restaurant plastic thing
and I use a vacusealer
strong forum
ya it cranks
it hits on 3 targets abotu as hard as other shit does on 8
but revenge has the whole, less cost thingy
oh is midnight
jagged gust
MT does have a bit more luxury in spamming exe with the SS resets and reduced TC cd which is quite nice
jagged gust
feeeeeels gooooood
mighty valley
<@228540157333078016> should I?
if you ever go camping, sous vide is cheater mode
strong forum
bruh thinks i forgor
lusty grotto
its too early for trolling i need alcohol
strong forum
ITS MIDNIGHT
lusty grotto
you know whats funny i actually checked the time
and then i remembered i live in the past with the rest of NA
can i get some stock advice future-dwelling EU lords?
ill take megamillion and/or powerball numbers too
warm plinth
can i get some stock advice future-dwelling EU lords?
Did you read about that guy who gave ChatGPT $100 to invest in non-mainstream stocks
strong forum
invest into my patreon
warm plinth
you have a patreon?
strong forum
i dont
lusty grotto
Did you read about that guy who gave ChatGPT $100 to invest in non-mainstream st...
yeah thats kinda weird
considering gpt doesnt give you gambling advice
its one of their rules
so im guessing he tweeked it to ignore it
gambling AND investments
lusty grotto
invest into my patreon
what about OF
strong forum
bruh
nocturne spindle
š
strong forum
beach ball dn
velvet tinsel
Colossus or Mountain Thane for Raid next week? i was thinking Colossus since i dont have my 4 set
lusty grotto
for raid either is fine
remote tusk
Probbly nerf TC/TB and Execute cleave
velvet tinsel
for raid either is fine
Thank you!
lament osprey
Pack it up, time to re roll brew
lusty grotto
rhino with the sandbag
solid sun
Shoot
solid sun
Somebody needs to
Brew out here talking about how weāre doing double dam
Betraying us
mighty valley
Brew though
I heard brewmaster was doing quadruple damage of the other tanks
solid sun
Yes
nocturne spindle
yea
velvet knot
oki
I did a 11 delve with 3 other players sitting afk and pulled the entire delve
So i think i can handle 1 boss
velvet knot
can you give me a tldr on the mechanics?
velvet knot
how are you 689
i was 685 before patch came out.
Did some m0s.
Now 689
nocturne spindle
avoid dagger lines, triangle the ssuck circles, look at the clones, follow the real one
thats all the mechanics
velvet knot
Look at clones. Don't stand in shit.
What do you mean by triangle the suck circle?
velvet knot
kk
nocturne spindle
way easier to just do it
velvet knot
dont stand in bad. Look at clone. Hit boss.
dense cradle
Underpin was too easy
mellow bridge
You have to move instantly after charging or you'll die 
nocturne spindle
oh
mellow bridge
I was looking at the clone
The angles are kinda weird sometimes
nocturne spindle
the massacre is just very particular
mellow bridge
You have to be very accurate
nocturne spindle
no
its just a tiny angle
and you cant like flick to it at the last second
have to be looking at it like a quarter second before the attack goes?
idk the timing
but just dont try and flick it right at the end
mortal cypress
dont stand in bad. Look at clone. Hit boss.
How do you know which one is the clone? I haven't tried it yet
velvet knot
How do you know which one is the clone? I haven't tried it yet
it glows red
mortal cypress
Ah thanks
nocturne spindle
theres only every 2 actual clone shapes up
the one casting and the next one
only ever*
velvet knot
Okay so. I face the first clone. It goes off.
I turn to the second clone.
The first clone attacks me a second time?
I face the top 1 then turn to the bottom right one.
But i still die.
nocturne spindle
theres two in the first spot
velvet knot
It attacks 2 times?
velvet knot
ill go again see if it happens
solid sun
it could but they're just random locations
nocturne spindle
its fully spawned and the spawn animation is spawning the second
solid sun
You can see here where 3 and 4 are not spawning in the same location
solid sun
We went from particularly confident to seemingly frustrated in a matter of moments
:)
She made me want to punt my PC out of the window
stark gyro
Do we still need a custom APL to sim Tome? I thought there used to be one in the pins, but don't see it anymore.
frosty mango
Itās baked in now
nocturne spindle
yea
nocturne spindle
bran just pulled the boss while i was eating
steep crest
I know new patch and we lost some stuff, but did anyone else's sim go down like 200k?
mortal cypress
I wonder how much they pay Ion cos he was in corporate law and that pays $$$$
velvet knot
thats crazy
nocturne spindle
yea
velvet knot
i haven't done it on ? yet lmao
cerulean tusk
If you backpedal as you turn, it lines up better. If you mouse turn and don't move to tell the server you are facing the direction it often fails
toxic pewter
He facing the red daggers is what I struggle with the most so far granted I havenāt been getting too far yet lol
velvet knot
If you backpedal as you turn, it lines up better. If you mouse turn and don't mo...
OH
I mouse turn
i hold down s and use both mouse buttons to turn
cerulean tusk
Same, this is the fix I used
toxic pewter
Wait so you actually spin with a and d is that wat u mean
velvet knot
i hold s down and use my mouse to turn
nocturne spindle
then yea it should be fine
velvet knot
i dont touch a or d
toxic pewter
Oh I meant funkykitty
cerulean tusk
Nah, I nouseturn and strafe/backpedal
toxic pewter
Oh ok I misread
velvet knot
i have strafe unbound
cerulean tusk
After ya face it, do a stutterstep
pastel sleet
Anyone have a link to a good spell reflect WA for s3?
cerulean tusk
It lines ya up
velvet knot
ill record my next try
okay im convinced this fight is bullshit. I instadied standing between 2 lines
cerulean tusk
Anyone have a link to a good spell reflect WA for s3?
Old one is being updated, ya can just do that. It will get quite a few more updates, so do so once a month
velvet knot
nocturne spindle
frosty mango
Anyone have a link to a good spell reflect WA for s3?
I updated the popular one for s3 if your search spell reflect essentials on wago thereās one from me that has the new dungeons
nocturne spindle
das how i do it
pastel sleet
Ty
frosty mango
Someone can prob link it Iām on my phone atm
velvet knot
this helps so much ty
heavy sparrow
toxic pewter
Dang that was clean
velvet knot
your backpedel speed is so much slower than mine i think
fluid widget
priory, yall going left or right?
cerulean tusk
Left