protection

[blissful mirage]

Just the whole system is kinda whack and blizz just needs to take a really close look at spells so warriors don't feel cheated by things like this

[round pendant]

if it was something actually aspirational I'd agree that anyone cheesing it is kind of robbing themselves

[toxic pewter]

Just have to be careful to call things for what they are in my opinion. Gotta call a spade a spade.

[daring narwhal]

How did they get reward though ? Achievement dont seem to exist, at least when I killed it on ? difficulty nothing showed up, and you cannot search for them too

[toxic pewter]

Yeah the ? Achievement isn’t awarded yet presumably because season hasn’t started yet probably

[blissful mirage]

?? only and you loot it from her corpse

[shut summit]

i got the achieve and mount skin for ??

[daring narwhal]

Oh so I can try it legit then, was waiting for next week cuz of that. Thanks

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I guess ? Is bugged awarding credit or something is wrong with it

[blissful mirage]

Tbh I wouldn't try legit cause they might take it away if you hit spell reflect during the fight

[shut summit]

wouldnt be surprising with some of the rough edges the patch has

[blissful mirage]

At least till next week when it gets redacted from the reflecters' accounts

[daring narwhal]

Tried it a bit and the boss hit like a wet noodle tbh, no need for even a defensive lol (on ??)

[toxic pewter]

Will probably use time to determine if they did it or not I assume. Apparently were killing her in like a minute

[nocturne spindle]

its pretty easy just feels like the look at her clone ability is jank and doesnt always work

[blissful mirage]

Yeah I was on my 674 warrior and wasn't really taking damage with no cloak

[hollow dune]

ugh guys we're not taking 5% stam OR 6% max hp this patch?

[mighty turtle]

Did you need 684 in every slot to upgrade 4 items to 691 this week?

or am I missing something obvious

[steel onyx]

Not necessarily every slot but those you wanted to upgrade to 691
Also there is a 688 warbound item on the World Boss, if you don't care about it you can still equip it and it considers this item slot upgraded to 688 (that's what I did with cloth shoulders because I don't have any cloth alt)

[pallid reef]

Got belt off the world boss 🙃

[mighty turtle]

Yeah I mean i've done all that, I don't mean a check list, just seen some guy who was 688 with 4 items upgraded to 691, was just wondering if missed something

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/Nykyro - ignore the neck because crafted, but chest, weapon, legs & a trinket at 691

[pallid reef]

Question to a completely biased group - I’ve been a holy pally since vanilla. Nowadays I’m an AoTC/KSM and done kinda player. However, I got KSH in season 1 as prot warrior when I’ve never played it seriously, which is well beyond what I’ve gotten on my pally. Do I go full prot warrior main or sack up and play prot pal so I can still heal in my off time?

Feel like prot warrior is just so much easier and safer to play than prot pally

[mighty turtle]

oh wait yea maybe a world boss item like you said because it'd be like 15 then to upgrade, nvm

[lusty grotto]

no

[lusty grotto]

no, its garbage it no longer has armor like in s1/s2 and the stam is not relevant

[lusty grotto]

i feel like you can answer your own question here since its extremely subjective

[mighty turtle]

yea im just mega cooked chip its all good

[lusty grotto]

time for

c:

[glacial ridge]

Is the Tome custom APL now built in? Its no longer in pinned comments and I know it was causing the sims to fail yesterday so I removed it..

[lusty grotto]

yes its built in

[glacial ridge]

awesome thanks 🙂

[frosty mango]

Specifically it’s line 15 of our apl actions+=/use_item,name=tome_of_lights_devotion,if=buff.inner_resilience.up

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/f993a76a6bc881aa739bc66d5f7e35b97d8edc0b/ActionPriorityLists/default/warrior_protection.simc#L15

Bloodmallet looking crazy right now lol

[fluid widget]

I got my first tome from m0 (didn’t farm it last season) and god damn is it a wild trinket

[runic kestrel]

most of my gear from when I left last season is 658, got 681 champion head and shoulders from m0 today. Is it worth breaking tier for 30 ilvl bump? Or wait for new 2-piece?

[ocean valley]

have you guys seen how much dmg weve lost?

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-meme-silly-cat-silly-weep-gif-16415733508326637886

[mighty valley]

huh?

[solid sun]

@lusty grotto am i spending upgrade things on this champ track tome i just got

or am i waiting

[lofty warren]

ur jelous of my pwar

[narrow jay]

Execute cleave on thane is busted i dropped another defensive talent (since we get the nice shield from the cloak) for sudden death im doing 3m+ overalls in dungeons and my top dps for entire dungeon is execute even beats out thunderblast. Can't wait to get the new set bonus.

Those free 40 rage executes are juiced

[lofty warren]

Execute is lowest on prio list

[narrow jay]

Im only hitting it when there is nothing else to hit

[latent imp]

is mnt thane outperforming colossus atm for general use?

[narrow jay]

Does way more damage than revenge one execute cleaving for 10-12m dmg is better than 1 revenge cast

Obviously I'm hitting revenge when execute isn't available and shield slam and thunderblast/thunderclap are on CD

[warm plinth]

after new 4pc, yes

yes

[latent imp]

new 4pc, like the new kajamite/raid =?

okay, so its not worth it, without the new set pieces?

[warm plinth]

correct

[proud schooner]

do you guys use like an execute wa or anything

[latent imp]

thank you

[warm plinth]

execute WA for what

[proud schooner]

im relying on like small nameplate color change for <20%

[sacred sleet]

The fiber socket is it pretty much what just sims best im gonna assume for the cloak ?

[warm plinth]

yeah no different than any other stat

[warm plinth]

as colossus, you don't execute unless you have less than 3 targets anyway

@lusty grotto help

My woyer in purgatory

[solid sun]

How they take your name like that

[sharp gale]

Priority lists goes top to bottom yes

It doesn’t move « up » since there are still situations with 3 or fewer targets

(It is mostly bc ST bosses exists)

My big guess it is for ST

[blissful mirage]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/stop-the-removal-of-rewards-from-spell-reflect-exploit-on-kyveza/2144305

Help bump it up y'all

Ability working as intended =/= exploit

[shut summit]

i dont think its an exploit but i think that removing it is fine

[toxic pewter]

Why does 6 or more targets for execute matter am I missing something

Can’t it only hit three mobs now with that talent

[solid sun]

I think that means that the damage of other abilities once you get over 6 targets starts to catch up, right? Like T.Blast even without violent outburst > execute once you have more than 6 targets

Shield Slam and it's interactions with lightning bolts and whatever else is going on there, generating more rage, etc etc etc

Whereas at 6 targets or fewer, execute is the play

[toxic pewter]

Oh I guess I see what you mean now

Seems execute is just so powerful now

[solid sun]

Also @blissful mirage for whatever it's worth, I agree with Sense. I don't see any reason why them removing the rewards is a bad thing. I do disagree with them labeling it an exploit, though

[blissful mirage]

Yeah, honestly, to me this is more than just about the removal of rewards. It's about the whole spellblock, reflect, deflect system they have in place. I just want this thread to get bumped so maybe Blizzard will actually look at this system Warriors have to deal with, and maybe we will have a meaningful way to deal with magic damage again after the removal of spell block

[waxen cradle]

They have looked at the issue, they sadly just don't care

[dense crater]

Senpai prot warriors. I need knowledge on using trinkets as prot. Should I default to sims dps or bc im a noob default to a tank trinket + highest dps?

i got a ritual of mud to drop with leech, but i also got a sacbrood. Then i have all my myth trinkets from last season. I am overwhelmed lol.

[rigid yew]

probably askes a 100 times
new spell reflect WA for S3?

[zinc iris]

Execute stonks are up holy shit

[compact obsidian]

Is that passive ravager choice mode new?

[mighty valley]

Usually it's just highest dps until you're getting into higher content that might actually kill you, then there's usually a consensus on which defensive trinket has the biggest impact

[mighty valley]

yup

[compact obsidian]

Wow head build is using it and it’s one less button to press

[dense crater]

tyty, thought so. not a very good judge yet of when that will be xD once i die i suppose lol.

[compact obsidian]

Wonder why it’s not using champions spear anymore.

[mighty valley]

yeah, you get more total ravagers so it's generally worth the loss of control

[compact obsidian]

Downloaded a nice resource management WA since I’m new to war

[solid sun]

We do have meaningful ways of dealing with magic damage. And when you’re in a position where for some reason you don’t have an answer, the healer should be covering that. Which seems to be what blizzard wants

[sharp gale]

Yes and the execute at the bottom of the priority list is just ST execute my huge not really risky guess, it’s just nome didn’t make it change the entry when you click on heavy handed

[urban eagle]

Hey,
Could you pls advise must required /wa for pwar ?

[sharp gale]

i would say the most basic wa : something to clearly see your rage and shield block

[viscid lantern]

dude u got keybind Imp Victory on R which is prety much one of the top 5 best fast buttons to press and Shockwave in Alt+X? Why?????

[compact obsidian]

I like this one https://wago.io/LuxthosWarriorWarWithin

I’m new to warrior and just got that and it’s very nice, has a bar that ticks down for shield block and ignore pain along with the value of your ignore pain absorb that also ticks down so you know when to refresh

As well as a rage bar of course

[silver quiver]

one tip if playing an unfamiliar class with luxthos WAs is have a look at the weakauras he's marked optional (can just search that word) . Sometimes he hides important procs behind those

[sharp gale]

Yes the general WA packs usually tracks too much that is not needed, you can turn off or delete what is useless

[rigid hull]

spear is always more overall damage right? ( as thane ) its just the ease of roar that makes it better

[sharp gale]

And turn off the glow on some procs that can provoke errors if you follow them

[nocturne spindle]

is there a dps increase from tier spreadsheet

i remeber there was one for season 2

i gotta make my case to be prio tier set 🙂

[frosty mango]

I linked one I updated today

Search wago for roidburga52

[frosty mango]

No

On paper it can be, in practice it requires you to maximize its usage to get optimal damage whereas roar is just send it

Spear = burst while roar = consistent, but one isn’t generally considered “better” than the other

[rough egret]

Good morning fellow “exploiters”

[hasty flare]

Hey i saw thane is the choice for S3, however are we sticking as colo until we get the tier set or has tuning just changed the choice now

[shell trellis]

When do I consider breaking 4 piece? got a 30 ilvl upgrade off world boss but it will break it for me

[rough egret]

Sim for dmg

But imo, you replace s2 4p with s3 2p

[shell trellis]

Thats what I was thinking, just hold it for now

[rough egret]

But 30 ilvl might be enough to get more dmg than having 4p, i would say sim it 🙂

[shell shell]

I don't blame the people who cheesed, doing that fight took me 10 minutes

[rough egret]

Its not exploit when you use your toolkit

[shell shell]

took 10 minutes with basically the perfect kit from S2, miserable fight

[rough egret]

I mean other clases killed it aswell

[azure crag]

It was blizzard's fault for making the spell reflectable in the first place

[shell shell]

Any dps classes? I dunno how they'd survive lol

[rough egret]

Saw BM hunter kill

[shell shell]

Yea that checks out

Idk how they expect casters to do that fight

so much micro movement during daggers

[nocturne spindle]

i think its scaled

like

time and damage wise

it was about 10% a minute with bran as dps doing an additional 700k or with him as healer doing like 100k

so i think its just set to do less damage and have more health for dps specs

[frosty mango]

That’s why tanks are so much easier in delves

Because mobs have less hp, and you can bring dps brann

[lofty glen]

Is Tome still that good?

[urban eagle]

I have feeling that this one will be better then pacemaker
What do you think about it ?

[nocturne spindle]

channeling is a death sentence for M+ and since it scales with target meh in raid so

not likely

[vernal bridge]

Just curious, are there some fun active protection warriors on YouTube to check out and to learn from?

[frosty mango]

Can confirm used it on ptr and any situation where it would maximize crit channeling it usually led to my demise, or at least got my socks rocked

I think if you lined it up with shield wall on a pull start you would be ok

[jagged pier]

nice done now

[compact obsidian]

Wait is that ??

[jagged pier]

Ye

[slender bison]

Already got mud + tome champ drops

Jesus

[quiet pagoda]

Kira is a proper warrior tank to watch. I prefer his twitch but also vids on YouTube.

https://youtube.com/@kiratank_tv?si=PbPpB682zA5Ds5_W

[slender bison]

I'm sure we can search for ourselves

[vernal bridge]

Thanks!

[quiet pagoda]

Think we all can clusterhead. The guy was just asking out for a tip.

Besides plenty of prot Warrior videos online from people that hardly play it themselves.

[vernal bridge]

Yeh exactly ^^

[acoustic grotto]

Hello fellow shields lover !
I did some m0 last night with the new setup talent as thane (and loved it) but i would have a queston about Revenge.
I didnt press it a lot except when Revenge proc. Am i doing right ?
It feel we have always something else to do in the gcd xD and pref spend rage in SB refresh or IP

[lofty glen]

i watched the vids from YoDa last season on warry. not a guide but if you watch him you understand

[narrow prawn]

this is so sad

[quiet pagoda]

Depends on your gear I guess l. IP and SB are a dps loss when you don’t need them to survive the content 😌☺️

[jagged pier]

Nope they are always a dps increase

Through AM cycling and the whole fact shield block increase the damage of SS but 30%

[quiet pagoda]

Isn’t that just spending rage in any way? And revenge is a rage dump too? Or am I missing something.

[jagged pier]

As thane even as colossus

Revenge now hits like a wet noodle

Thane especially you literally only press revenge when nothing else is availabke

Because it literally hits for nothing, and as long as u have sb and ip up as colossus u can then press revenge

To your hearts content

[quiet pagoda]

I still play colossus. So might do it differently or wrong. Just figured a wet noodle is still more then some mitigation I don’t need at that time

[acoustic grotto]

Thanks for answers 😉

[rugged gulch]

Surely throw 1 out early on pack for bleeds?

[jagged pier]

Well rend does far more than deep wounds and tc is far better at aggro than revenge
And just because its lowest prio doesnt mean you dont press it, it stil gets pressed a lot

[nocturne spindle]

when you dont get resets you kinda end up in a Ss>rend>TC pattern anyway

theyll get bleeds on them relatively fast

not rend fuck

ss>revenge>tc

[jagged pier]

But thats not the prio as thane

If u dont have resets u would tc first

It will do more damage as thane and give you rage. It wont do the damage for colossus so thats then a toss up of if u need rage in that moment or not

[sharp merlin]

Was doing brew last night, thinking of maining it this season, hopped on my warrior

I just can’t get away from this class, it’s just too good

[rugged gulch]

Yeah all those fancy class tanks just don’t hit like a fkn shield slapping god/goddess

[sharp merlin]

Indeed, there’s something about taking the dmg and not watching your health bar yo-yo which is super satisfying

Plus it also helps I got the Thunderfury [Blessed..] during the collector month

Just don’t know what shield goes well with it

[rugged gulch]

For me, bulwark of azz, alwsys

[sharp merlin]

Wait did somebody say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?

[sharp merlin]

And how much of my soul do I need to farm this?

[jagged pier]

Well u just missed a month where it would have been very easy to get

But its still not hard espeically if u have alts

As u collect tmog on any class now

Just clear BT till u get it

[sharp merlin]

Damn, didn’t know this existed

Sigh..

[rugged gulch]

I reckon you’ll get it within 3 runs of BT

[sharp merlin]

logs on

[frigid valley]

there's a slightly brighter version u can buy on ah

[jagged pier]

Or do the garrison stuff to get it

Well a chance to get it i suppose

Bulwarks old news tho anyways

[heavy sparrow]

am 100% in the bag rn which one are we doing

[rough egret]

haste

[jagged pier]

Haste, and u can just buy the others

But u should just craft the better ones anyways

[heavy sparrow]

thanks @rough egret @jagged pier

[frigid valley]

crafted ones are like 400g, 500ish more stats and u can change out without losing the gem

[sharp merlin]

Wait

What

What's it called?

[frigid valley]

bulwark something

cant recall

[jagged pier]

Brah BT takes like 10 mins to run through

Just go BT

U also get a chance of glaives then

[ionic nimbus]

Blackrock Bulwark is the BoE from WoD

[rough egret]

higher resolution model

[sharp merlin]

too late

[ionic nimbus]

Price is between 200 and 600k mostly, because it’s HD Version

[sharp merlin]

already spent the 500k gold

LOL

oops

[jagged pier]

Dont tell pom about brf set

[frigid valley]

https://tenor.com/view/sped-cube-gif-3640796934732154156

[jagged pier]

[nocturne spindle]

aegis of aggramar

fully zappy shield

[sharp merlin]

ooooops

[sharp merlin]

ahahahah

im one of those people, who literally decide their class on looks alone 😂

very healthy way to play the game

[lofty glen]

?

[rigid hull]

siming execute vs bloodborne is like 4% diffrence? i simmed on 3 targets ( bloodborne is higher dam )

that doesnt make sense im prolly doin somtin wrong?

[terse flame]

Switched to Thane this season and the amount of rage you generate is overwhelming

[jagged pier]

Same amount as season one

[terse flame]

Started playing this expansion in S2 mid June, so I only got to experience Colo

But as Thane, do I still spend my Violent Outburst on SS in ST? Or is it always TB?

[jagged pier]

Yes SS

U only send on like 4-5 for a normal TB and 2 for a tier set buffed TB

[terse flame]

But never on a regular TC right? So if I don't have a TB proc available, I just spend it fast on SS?

[hollow raven]

isn't this kinda misleading

since even with my s2 684 shield i'm hardcapped on crit blocks already

[remote tusk]

The new Ravager talent is goat.

[lofty glen]

what build do you guys run? wowhead looks kinda dumb?

[remote tusk]

Why does it look dumb according to you?

[jagged pier]

The wowhead and icy veins ones

Theres multiple builds there if u dont like

[lofty glen]

cause the builds i copyed from wowhead run bolster and dont take hunker down as 1 example

[remote tusk]

uhm

what

[jagged pier]

None of the builds have that

I dont know where u got that from

[remote tusk]

Maybe the import codes are bugged.

[lofty glen]

i legit went on wowhead. copyed m+ colo and it gave me random shit (loke 10h ago. mby its fixed idk)

[jagged pier]

I copied all the builds yesterday, no issue

[hardy snow]

if copying doesnt work, you can setup it manually

[rigid hull]

when exactly is TB prio over SS @jagged pier

[lofty glen]

thats what i go by copying XD

[lofty glen]

yes i mad my own after i had the copied

[jagged pier]

I just wrote it and tjats only with outburst, apart from that is never is, unless u have 2 stacks and no outburst because then the ss could give u another stack and u waste a stack then

[rigid hull]

damn

is it for rage generation = surivival

or its more damage anyways

[jagged pier]

All

[rigid hull]

goddamn

its so weird actually

a big ass blast does less damage if u prio it

[terse flame]

SS is just your highest prio overall, using globals on other skills when SS is up is a rage and damage loss

[ionic fern]

Got tome and pacemaker from m0. I'm done for the season,bye.

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/jayratheru-jayra-the-rumor-congrats-congratulations-gif-10652998291245543988

[slender bison]

Wasn't tome nerfed?

[prime maple]

I may have missed the answer to this but when do we swap from colossus to Thane ? Is it when we get new tier or is it already better ?

[ionic fern]

With tier

[jagged pier]

10% wont touch how strong it is

[blazing shuttle]

I got Mud trinket… still good I guess…

[jagged pier]

Havent even run a m0 yet

[blazing shuttle]

I just need today to finish the other TWW M0s

Going back to Stonevault…

[astral pendant]

I actually hadn’t even considered this, just blindly went MT because word was it’s good 😅

[jagged pier]

I mean its close now so play what you like

For kyvessa ?? Thane was better for me by about 2 mins interms of kill time. Just cause you sit on demplish too much

For instance where is is better or well where i found it better

[astral pendant]

I might as well get used to MT as that Tier set bonus is juicy

[jagged pier]

It will likely get nerfed or we will somehow

But ive been wrong before

[torn gulch]

There is no stonevault m0

[blazing shuttle]

The dungeon journal shows the loot as champion M0. Or maybe it was like that last season and I never paid attention?

And if so, well, sh*t.

[torn gulch]

You only have the seasonal dungeons at m0 except tazavesh

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah. Noticed Taza. A shame.

Welp. Guess I’ll do delves to farm cloak, farm wqs and… wait.

[torn gulch]

Because tazavesh is in default hard mode with hero track drops

[blazing shuttle]

Grand.

Then first thing to do on Wednesday.

[torn gulch]

Yes every boss has a chance of 701 gear

[blazing shuttle]

Well. Guess I’ll just learn routes for the SL dungeons, in that case.

Thank you anyway.

[torn gulch]

You re welcome

[blazing shuttle]

Hey at least…

6 pieces of loot here.

\o/

[frank bobcat]

Just beat the Season 3 nemesis legit! Here's my ilvl, achieve date & talents

Biggest tip is to remove as much clutter as you can from your UI, I found most of my deaths were from clones I couldn't see behind my buttons & ground effects blurring the lines you're supposed to dodge, I also turned off the bosses name

Also brann was in damage with no curios, lvl 75, he ended up doing about 33% of the total dmg

[jagged pier]

U do know printscreen is a button

Thats a wack build tho, even tho build doesnt matter its just do mechanics

[patent scroll]

what is Windows Shift S

[jagged pier]

Imagine having a lvl 75 brann

Mans being doing delves

But gratz tho

[frigid valley]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-luffy-sabaody-cry-gif-14865703408552752434

[frank bobcat]

i found the defensiveness of my build super over the top, ended up not even popping my cheat death on the winning run

[jagged pier]

U can only pop bsv early other wise u still die because it massive damage later on

[frank bobcat]

i think talents like the 5% extra movement speed are a must

[jagged pier]

Mines 60

[strong forum]

I think my brann is still level 38

[frigid valley]

god i love this build

[frigid valley]

mines 80 since like week 3 of season2

delves is best content

right @frosty mango

[jagged pier]

I ment more like HR, indom, bsc are wack like you dont have whirling blades there no reason not to have it

[jagged pier]

[jagged pier]

Brother

Touch grass

[prime sphinx]

does bsv even pop in kyveza fight doesnt everything just 1 shot

[jagged pier]

Nah it can

Early on

Its will save a few low wipes

But after shes on like 2 stacks they will oneshot you through bsv

Maybe at 2, it might proc on a massacre

U can make it proc later if used with defensives lile press sw if u get hit u might live

But after 4 stacks no chance u get oneshot

[frank bobcat]

Didn't take whirling blade because the visual clutter killed a few attempts

For me it was worth the trade off just so my brain wouldnt have to deal with the mental RAM of seeing the spinny red axe

[loud sigil]

Pussy 0/0

[sharp merlin]

Ty for the shield, I'm going prot war this season LOL

[lofty warren]

how do you phase diver to do the weekly big world quest

[nocturne ibex]

iirc there is a phasedive portal not so far from it

[blazing shuttle]

How do you deal with the phantoms?

[prime sphinx]

face them

[blazing shuttle]

The '??' difficulty went from:

Zek'vir: "Eh, not so bad."

Underking: "ez lol"

To:
"DARK SOULS PLAYERS FEAR ME."

[solid sun]

I saw the speed with which everything happens and decided I would wait for more gear

[nocturne ibex]

@strong forum hello sir, on the wowhead front page of the guide , the 2 colossus M+ builds are named "weekly"

[solid sun]

Not because it’ll help me live but because it’ll shorten the fight so I won’t have to deal with it for so long

[strong forum]

oh mb

fixed

[ebon scaffold]

Are we simming when to break our s2 4pc set? Gotten pretty lucky with m0 gear this week, and my gear was all 658ish.

[strong forum]

you break s2 set when you get new s3 4pc

tier is too powerful to break

[rigid hull]

why "dungeon slice" isnt use in sims for prot

used*

[strong forum]

why should it

[jagged pier]

Honestly not that bad i put more attmepts on zekvir when he was bugged for that week and unkillable than i did on ??

And the fact she doesnt spell queue is huge

[sharp gale]

I didn’t attempt the nemesis yet, you say it is similar to zekvir, I’m listening

[jagged pier]

I mean some respects easier some respects harder

Its only 4 mechanics on the same rotation

Not queued so you know whats coming next

But you screw up u die

[slender bison]

What's crafting prio next week? Shield?

Saw bis shield is crit mastery which is eh

[rigid hull]

just by doin the prio u said i understood why we spam SS xd @jagged pier

[jagged pier]

Thats just what sims highest in highest gear

[solid sun]

Not crafting next week

[rigid hull]

theres gonna be an addition with tier set right? tclap gets prio on the proc shit on set

[jagged pier]

Big dam big rage

[jagged pier]

I said it earlier it only gets prio over SS with outburst when there are 2 or more targets with the tier set proc

[slender bison]

I got 1h in the vault after 14 weeks of S1

[jagged pier]

Otherwise its ss

[slender bison]

So I'm crafting this time

[solid sun]

Can’t even do m+ until next week. I won’t craft until after I open a vault with myth track gear in it

[rough egret]

i have a dilema that im probably thinking too much on it 😄 upgrade veteran weap to 691 or champ gloves to 691 😄

[slender bison]

I upgraded vet weap to 691 since carved/weathered are obsolete next week

Damage is damage

[rough egret]

bought one from the HV vendor

unlucky drops from m0s

got only pacemaker

[rigid hull]

but in the prio list TB with tier set is higher than SS @jagged pier

[ebon scaffold]

Why not?

[jagged pier]

Ask nome i asked a few days ago told me ss on st

[solid sun]

Because next week I’m farming m+ and getting myth track slots in my vault. I don’t want to craft something next week and then Tuesday find a myth track version in my vault

So I’ll open my vault with myth track in it first and then make a decision about crafting afterwards

[rough egret]

is your wowhead site workin?

[remote tusk]

2nd raid boss drops BiS shield, which is feasible even in pugs probably.

[solid sun]

I don’t raid mythic

[rigid hull]

@strong forum Which ones Prio tierset PROC TB or SS on single/aoe

[remote tusk]

Also dungeon shields are meh, they all have Mastery, and two have Crit, just one Vers. None haste.

[ebon scaffold]

Well if you’re not raiding, there’s only 1 shield that drops in mythic and it’s in priory. Other than that you’re crafting.

[solid sun]

That’s fine. I don’t lose anything substantial by waiting to craft after vault

I’m not doing any dungeons beyond 10 and I’ll be in N and H raid at most. I don’t need to rush to craft a shield

[slender bison]

There is a situation of bad luck where your weapon stays 684 and dps crafts 720 and you start to lose aggro

[turbid forge]

Hi i never play prot warrior and i want play him this season, this is hard to learn or its ok ?

[cerulean tusk]

pretty easy and chill

[strong forum]

depends on your buffs

but if you have 2x TB and 2x SS

[cerulean tusk]

just remember to keep shieldblock up, and face your enemy

90% of the job

[strong forum]

you use TB with tier first

[turbid forge]

okok

i need the "easier" and funniest tank with drood or war tank

[cerulean tusk]

Druid is easier, warrior is more fun

but you asking in a warrior discord

so meh?

[turbid forge]

yes i need know how playing warrior is

[agile elbow]

Press shield block go brrrrrr

[steady mason]

imo bear is easier but might be a good choice to get comfortable tanking
warrior has a lots of utility and movement which is more fun and has higher skill ceiling

[undone beacon]

Druid is super easy and relaxed for learning

It has some more skill expression this tier you can opt into with hero talents

Though neither tank is particularly challenging, so pick whichever one you like the vibe of more

[cunning tide]

Worth dropping 2 pieces of s2 tier for s3 champion loot (higher ilvl)?

My s2 tier is all Hero track

[undone beacon]

Short answer no, long answer sim it

[glad crater]

Sim is better but I had the case yesterday, and no

by a lot

[cunning tide]

Last question.

Trinkets on Wowhead, the ranking pretty accurate?

[undone beacon]

They are accurate, yes

[cunning tide]

Ty

[undone beacon]

If you don’t agree, the guide writer is in chat

[vale escarp]

Sim yourself, but yes

[undone beacon]

Our beloved baby boy and warframe aficionado

[glossy wind]

Is prot war S tier for m+ this season??

[undone beacon]

it’s in the top 6 for sure

[glossy wind]

lmao

[vale escarp]

Wait until the balance Patch next week

[glossy wind]

i'm trying to figure out what to alt

[vale escarp]

Or ask Yoda

[undone beacon]

What do you main?

[glossy wind]

Back in the day I played high mythic plus on Havoc and Vengeance

tanking is easy groups too cuz you are a star role

[undone beacon]

So you're a DH tank main looking for an alt?

Prots not a bad option. Its a fun and pretty fast paced tank

[plush tendon]

Prot War, Prot Pal, Brew, VDH are all evenly matched

pick the one you prefer/better at

[undone beacon]

Strong damage, decent utility, big fuckin shield, pretty slick

If thats the vibe you like, send it

[cerulean tusk]

Hard to not see VDH win due to sigils and selfsustain, as per usual tho

Havent checked this season, VDH DPS is grim compared to pwarr?

[plush tendon]

VDH damage is still pretty low compared to Brew and Prot War

[undone beacon]

VDH wins due to comp synergy

[cerulean tusk]

low doesnt matter, is it grim?

[plush tendon]

VDH wins if its full caster comp, but if group with like a FDK, Assa Rogue, Havoc

Prot War stonks rise fast and match it

on top of doing more damage

[plush tendon]

honestly, prob like bottom two

is my best guess

[cerulean tusk]

not grim enough

VDH will reign supreme

[plush tendon]

in ST right now MT Prot War is like 500k ahead of everyone else in sims

but we await tuning/actual logs

[plush tendon]

you could be right and VDH becomes the preferred choice. But reign supreme is a bit of a stretch

[cerulean tusk]

If ya aint #1, you are a loser and scum

[plush tendon]

eh, playerskill will end up mattering more

Id take a pro Prot Pal over a medicore reroll VDH anyday

but its bad perception to think that there can only be one tank option

[cerulean tusk]

And I will take a gold bar over mud

[plush tendon]

and so much will depend on what comp you run as well

[cerulean tusk]

Nah, I will just bring the VDH, get my free key completion +3, then stretch and turn off the computer

ya can waddle kneedeep in mud looking for gold nuggets

I got my bar

[plush tendon]

whatever floats your boat my dude

[cerulean tusk]

Gold doesnt float boats, but it allows me to buy a boat

[undone beacon]

VDH will simply never be as satisfying as slamming people with a shield and then stomping so hard it summons lightning

[viral jackal]

think there's just a bigger range of how good a VDH is because of the way they mitigate damage.

Some players are absolutely nuts, but man a bad VDH is brutal to play with

[gritty sphinx]

^^^

[strong forum]

for caster m+ comp, VDH
for phys comp, either brew or pwar

those 2 meta comps exist these days

[viral jackal]

Mountain Thane feels pretty good so far even without new tier set

[strong forum]

i mean yeah

nothings changed

thane always felt good

just numbers arent there until new4pc

[viral jackal]

is Wrecking Throw a new talent or one I've never taken before?

[strong forum]

never taken before

[viral jackal]

Interested to see how that'll be used on mobs with big shields/absorbs

[strong forum]

they buffed it pretty heavily in s2

500% to be exact

[viral jackal]

Well thank you for writing the prot guide, I always enjoy it 🙂

[gritty sphinx]

Prot Warrior feels good this season. It is weird without Spell Block but I'm loving it

[strong forum]

[undone beacon]

spell block gone dead spec turbo f tier we are no more

[viral jackal]

Yeah I miss Spell Block, but I also kind of had no idea how to use it properly and just smashed it thoughtlessly when I was taking a magic damage tank buster.

[undone beacon]

In this house we spellbreaker last stand no shield wall

[lofty warren]

If mt should've even be used until 4pc doesn't that make it super reliant on the tier set? Like if it gets nerfed then mt die?

[viral jackal]

Well slayer got nerfed too didn't it? Isn't that why MT 4 pc is good

[gritty sphinx]

Or when you pulled big with caster mobs and no interrupts lmao

[hard cipher]

Im thinking between alting brew or pala

[plush tendon]

Paladin tier set looks really good

it has horses on the shoulders

its a must get imo

[viral jackal]

Exactly lol.

My brain just went "Magic damage? hit spell block I guess"

[blazing shuttle]

Zandalari & Tauren paladins crying in a corner.

[undone beacon]

Colossus got a bit of a nerf but MT tier got a huge buff which is why its good

[viral jackal]

Yeah colossus nerf really hit arms too

[strong forum]

they reworked 4pc from being 0.8% dps gain to 30% gain

🙂

[lofty warren]

How much worse is mt vs colosus without tier in m+ ? I prefer mt

[viral jackal]

❤️

[sterile trellis]

Is there any room in m+ build to take sudden death or is it not worth it?

[gritty sphinx]

XD I just started playing Prot last season and the hardest boss for me was the first one in Flood. I was a brew main in s1 and didn't know the pain of Magic damage on prot lol. Still got 3k tho

[hard cipher]

My pala is tauren and holy fuck cant even go upgrade gear in dorn without unmounting

[strong forum]

about 30%

[viral jackal]

100%. Especially in lower lvl gear, that boss hits like a truck.

[undone beacon]

I made mine a stinky rock boy so i dont have to eat ever, ez

[lofty warren]

At what haste % should I choose itf instead of hr?

[hard cipher]

Nice

[viral jackal]

@strong forum I might've missed it somewhere but what thread are we taking for reshii wrap? I see a lot of people doing vers?

[lofty warren]

30%.. well sounds like col is gonna be used

[strong forum]

technically haste

[gritty sphinx]

I made healers cry lmaooooo. Then my warrior friend said "FUCKING HIT SPELL BLOCK" xD

[strong forum]

but pick whatver stat you have closest to 0

if you already have shitton of haste

[viral jackal]

Okay cool deal

[undone beacon]

I'm putting armor pen in mine

[viral jackal]

*expertise

[plush tendon]

Im putting nothing in mine

[undone beacon]

multistrike actually

[plush tendon]

Im not gonna be apart of the system

[viral jackal]

😯

[undone beacon]

Real gamers slap a goblin glider on that shit

[plush tendon]

naw, I bought the Stormwind Rep Cloak

[lofty warren]

Love the straight forward % answer. I asked how much better "advanced" talents are vs "basic" in brew and was just told that advances is "better".

[plush tendon]

to prove my loyalty

[strong forum]

im putting in movespeed

[undone beacon]

stinky alliance

[strong forum]

actually no

cooldown reduction

[plush tendon]

brooooo, corruption CDR

miss that shit

[undone beacon]

make sure y'all wrap your reshii

[strong forum]

no

my reshii stays unwrapped

[plush tendon]

you gotta wrap it

[viral jackal]

Xalatath won't let you play unless you has a reshii wrapped

[plush tendon]

for saftey!

[undone beacon]

Practice safe phase diving nome

[strong forum]

i aint playing her silly games

[plush tendon]

yea, but she wants that shit wrapped

[lofty warren]

Itf vs heavy repercussions, is it known which to choose? Nimchhump was saying it depends on ur stats or something

[strong forum]

she can wrap it herself if she so desperately needs it

[strong forum]

and hes correct

[undone beacon]

I'd let xalatoes wrap my reshii just sayin

https://tenor.com/view/xalatath-xal'atath-feet-wow-world-of-warcraft-gif-17385860347846332910

[lofty warren]

Never wrap, have more kids

[plush tendon]

[blazing shuttle]

What the fuck

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/zombielandsaga-sakura-minamoto-xd-gif-627758404327754450

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-passed-out-cat-dead-cat-kitty-sleep-gif-17010657718878120348

[worn sequoia]

When is the right time to break the 4 piece bonus from last season? Any general rules for that? Searched and couldn't find anything.

[solid sun]

When you have new 4pc

[mystic perch]

Heya, heard prot warrs doin mighty fine. What would they have to do to butcher it? or we just chillin?

[jagged pier]

I mean we need a slight damage nerf

But they gunna nuke it most likely or not at all

Time will tell

[plush tendon]

is it 4pc to 4pc or do we go to 2pc 2pc?

actually curious

[solid sun]

4pc to 4pc

[plush tendon]

[jagged pier]

Will say in wowhead and icy guides but 4pc 4pc or jist sim

[plush tendon]

yea, checking now

me being silly

hehe

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-kitten-stare-funny-gif-6810210174741850944

[solid sun]

Listen blizzard I’m not suggesting tuning for you

Do your own work!

[plush tendon]

heres to me hoping for tier in my delve vault, then getting a piece from raid

then I can double cata

profit

[solar forum]

What’s looking to be the pug breaker dungeon this season? What’s the cakewalk dungeon? I know we’ve all only done m0s so far but eco done seems like a breeze. HoA last boss seemed to have some high damage moments during his channel thing

[mystic perch]

🤣

[plush tendon]

2nd boss HoA

notorious pug killer

at least back in SL

[solar forum]

Oh yeah, grouping the adds will be difficult

[plush tendon]

youd just get overwhelmed

Ara Kara is straight forward

Dawnbreaker same thing

the new dungeon we dont know yet, but I could see some shenanigans

Tazevesh part 1 has the 3 part boss

that can be tricky

[blazing condor]

you somehow survived doing those huge ass pulls in the first area

[plush tendon]

Tazevesh part 2 last boss is a very long fight

[blazing condor]

then the 2nd boss just wrecks yo shit

[solid sun]

The new dungeon has a tank targeting aoe buster so if dps get too mouthy you can assassinate them

Idk if that classifies as a pug killer

[solar forum]

Yeah I don’t know the taxavesh bosses at all

[plush tendon]

yea, but those pulls are fun AF

[solar forum]

Didn’t play that season of SL

[blazing condor]

when they work

[solar forum]

I’ve heard bad things

[plush tendon]

thats the fun part!

making em work

[blazing condor]

gambit was always hella fun imo

[plush tendon]

[blazing condor]

[solar forum]

Heck yeah!

[plush tendon]

Gambit was a good time

last boss is tricky

[solid sun]

HoA and priory will probably be the hardest two dungeons if I had to guess.

[plush tendon]

Priory first boss is a Prot War killer

but after that its smooth sailing

[warm plinth]

HoA? Really?

Why?

[plush tendon]

HoA on a push key will be hard

for a weekly, its chill

[solid sun]

Mortal strikes and bolts and the mobs that stack the damage amp on you

[plush tendon]

hard to say about new dungeon

[solid sun]

Which is dispelable but the healer still has to do it

[plush tendon]

but I did notice a nasty magic debuff

[warm plinth]

There's only 4 mortal strike mobs in the whole dungeon that you pull though.

[plush tendon]

on those 6 mobs you have to kill

before 2nd

[solid sun]

That you want to

[plush tendon]

yea, mortal strike mobs are whatever

ill be real

[solid sun]

Also they changed the third boss

[warm plinth]

? There aren't even any others nearby anywhere that you'd pull except the patrol that you just wait for before the 2nd boss

[solid sun]

I think she’s going to be crazy hard on push keys

[warm plinth]

I didn't notice any differences on her

[glossy wind]

What gem do I put in Muh reshii

[solid sun]

The pulse the adds do hurts

[warm plinth]

Take spirit to lamp, dodge circles, kick soell

Spell*

It always hurt though. It's the only damage anyone takes on the fight if the main cast is kicked

[plush tendon]

I think 3rd boss will be fine

good groups will prob pull trash onto her also

for that cleave

[solid sun]

Yeah I just think it’s gonna be pretty bad

[frosty mango]

Streets will be the hardest

[warm plinth]

Last boss was the only notable change and that caught me off guard (the giant circles after the statue phase)

Well, I guess curse of stone was notable but honestly more weird than anything else

[solid sun]

I’m happy to be wrong but I don’t get good vibes from it

[frosty mango]

Imo streets is the hardest key to time at higher levels bc the timer will necessitate dumb things most pugs won’t do

[plush tendon]

yea, Streets will be a pain

some nasty trash, bosses can be tricky

[warm plinth]

5 boss dungeons always are

[frosty mango]

When I was doing ptr streets was the only key I failed multiple times at 15/16

[rough egret]

Are you getting undercoins?

[warm plinth]

And streets has multiple bosses that are easy to fail

[frosty mango]

Also tons of forced rp

[solid sun]

I never failed streets on the ptr

[warm plinth]

I wish they'd removed the trading instead of reducing it

But at least the mobs give count now iirc

[frosty mango]

Send me your route, and your friends then 🤣

[solid sun]

I didn’t play the ptr

[warm plinth]

Though actually I bet people just do the event and then meld pot the mobs

[frosty mango]

Touché

[solid sun]

But that doesn’t change the fact I never failed it!

[sharp merlin]

they just want me to play prot

[frosty mango]

When I did it I ultimately started pulling trash into the menagerie boss

Because the timer is so tight and that helps a lot

[solid sun]

I got a tome last night. Should I spend upgrade juice on it or just chill

I currently have a 684 tome

[frosty mango]

I’d hold since you’ll get heroic tome next week

And sims are still wonky it may not be bis

[warm plinth]

I got a ritual mud yesterday after watching my poor sweet bubbles get slaughtered like a beef cow

Wasn't worth it

[solid sun]

You know

Bubbles going out like that did make me sad

[warm plinth]

I will say it was nice being able to do a bigger pull in that area though since the soldiers don't die

[solid sun]

And also the soldiers don’t do anything

Bubbles jr better come back as a raid boss later on

[warm plinth]

What do you think you'll pull to make up for the pack behind big momma?

[solid sun]

Stuff to the left of the stairs that lead up to the hang glider box maybe?

[sharp merlin]

Current Col on Wowhead, do we use Rend over Revenge?

[warm plinth]

Rend is never bound

You just talent it so blood and thunder works

[frosty mango]

I just pull more stuff at the end

[solid sun]

Doot, are you playing anything besides war

I gotta do two dungeons for no loot to finish the dungeon row

And then I might start working on brew

?? Kyveza made me feel like I’m particularly awful

So I’m chilling on that rn

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=vgbd2242lj this is what I did on ptr for no skip

[plush tendon]

up to you; you can freely send crests on gear to get to 691

but, if it were me, Im targeting shield and weppy first

I also got a nice crit/haste helm with a socket from delves

[nocturne spindle]

If you did 5 mask you can go buy a shield or weapon to upgrade to 691

Free sheit

[solid sun]

I assume I’ll be crafting a shield because I highly doubt I’m finding one in my vault after m+

[plush tendon]

I wont be sending gilded until after week 1

also gonna see how hard the first couple of bosses on mythic are

[frosty mango]

gonna open that vault and get 3 heroic delve shields

[plush tendon]

theres a nice crit/haste shield on the second boss

[frosty mango]

im manifesting for you

[solid sun]

lol no

Stop

[frosty mango]

no tier, no trinkets

just 6 shields

the monkey paw curls

[solid sun]

Tbh I would probably take a myth track shield over tier

If they were both in my vault

[frosty mango]

I would 100% do that

lol

[harsh trellis]

oh snap... Priory pathing all changed thats cool

[solid sun]

Shield big big

[frosty mango]

yeah right side miniboss is a joke now and they buffed the left side to near impossibility

[harsh trellis]

And sully

wanders over on the left side now

[frosty mango]

yeah that caught me offguard the first time

[plush tendon]

depends for me tbh

crit/haste shield off second boss

[solid sun]

Oh are we right side gamers now

I did left side last night and the boss left poop puddles

[plush tendon]

if you mythic raid, that first shield drop is yours

100%

[solid sun]

Wasn’t expecting that

[harsh trellis]

You cant play the game left handed

[frosty mango]

yeah and the first pull goes left

[harsh trellis]

you cant really do anything left handed

[solid sun]

I don’t mythic raid

And I also have never even bothered attempting myth raid bosses

[plush tendon]

it may be puggable first/second week

its worth to try imo

like Vexie last tier

[warm plinth]

Bm hunter and outlaw rogue

[solid sun]

Maybe if Roid starts a myth pug

For an alt

I’d join

Casual 1 am myth raid pug

[warm plinth]

Don't think so. I tried it last night. Having tanner on first boss with the new spear puddles is really obnoxious.

[solid sun]

Hmmm

[warm plinth]

Adds a kick and lots more space denial

Though tbf I don't know how important that kick is

[undone beacon]

I mean warr can reflect the cinderblast so, thats 1 less kick

[solid sun]

For now

Just wait for blizzard to find out we are reflecting a spell

[frosty mango]

I have to herd idiots all day at work, I refuse to lead anything in wow lol

[solid sun]

Oh come on I bet you know a raid leader who would like a couple mythic kills

[shut summit]

cinderblast was removed iirc

[solid sun]

See? Can’t be having us reflecting stuff

I’m just memeing sorry

[shut summit]

i did right side on PTR in like an 18 and it was super chill on the first boss, only gets really crazy if everyone spreads out and runs around

[deft mortar]

Did they buff tough as nails? If like 5 mobs are basic hitting me every 2 seconds, wouldn't that be like 200k dps off 1 talent

in a cleave scenario

[undone beacon]

aw man that was the one thing I liked about him

pog

[cursive needle]

Nice dude, i got one too!

Are you guys playing mountain thane? or do we switch after we get 2p ?

[median garnet]

I did my m0 as MT, your're going to be really disappointed in your dps until you get the new set.

[solid sun]

Thane is unlocked by 4pc

[cursive needle]

Cool, i figured as much. Thanks!

[toxic pewter]

well got both of these champion version lol maybe used all my trinket luck up already

[solid sun]

@undone beacon wanna be my mythic raid pug partner

I’ll make us some delicious snacky treats

[frosty mango]

Did anyone test chaotic nethergate on the ptr?

Just ran with a warrior using a 655 one and it was doing wayyyy more damage than I expected

[true yoke]

"Is there an trinket from delves to choose for the vault?"

[frigid valley]

this is the trash ive gotten from all 6

[glossy wind]

Just ganked two losers as prot war xD

[toxic pewter]

haha! owned!

[toxic pewter]

damn lol u need some trinkets

[solid sun]

Dps war or a prot

[frosty mango]

Prot

His overall was relatively low but it was doing 22-30m per use at 655 which struck me

By saying his overall was low I mean the trinket was like 25% of his overall but the damage per use is what caught my eye

[frosty mango]

I ran all 6 and got one drop

So don’t feel bad

It was a sacbrood and I gave it to a main raider lul

[solid sun]

All my drops save tome went to my friends who are undergeared

[jagged pier]

imagine getting drops

[solid sun]

You don’t need drops, Jakey

You’re OP

[royal mist]

That trinket though. DO IT. lol

[limpid ruin]

Gear is a crutch

[jagged pier]

i fucking wish

[frigid valley]

dont even know which one ur refering to since there's 2

[frosty mango]

Jakeydrops?

I just use week one to farm good will because next week when we’re chaining heroics I can guilt them into giving me trinkets and weapons

“Remember when I gave you sacbrood”

[rough egret]

I still need to figure out why my delves are not giving me credit for season3 😄

[remote tusk]

Because S3 has not started yet?

[rough egret]

Like im not getin xp for Brann and curency and the journey points I mean

[shrewd plinth]

Shield slam is a good button yea, but why do prio lists value it over tblast/revenge in 5+ target aoe. Purely for the rage generation and to put it on cd to fish for procs?

[undone beacon]

You wont until next week

[rough egret]

Oh so someone actually tricked me 😄

[undone beacon]

Feeds the rage economy, which is the most vital part of playing prot properly. Also does big damage and interacts with the kit in many ways such as Punish for priority targets

[ocean smelt]

To be precise that's because you only get exp and journey point in bountiful delves

So.. Yeah not possible this week

[rough egret]

Alright thank you

[frosty mango]

Not pressing shield slam on cd means you will miss shield slams because you cannot store charges

So you are losing shield slams by holding it which means you are losing rage, which means you are losing damage

That’s what pash means when he says rage economy

[north bramble]

Is sacbrood DPS spec drop?

[frosty mango]

Believe it drops for all 3 specs

I know it’s at least tank and dps

[undone beacon]

When I say rage economy I mean you need to file your anger taxes and get a return from the WRS (Warrior Revenue System) or else you'll be sent to jail for rage fraud

Then they make you play a mage. Mage jail

You will provide arcane intellect and you will like it, blue boy

[solid sun]

Well

How do I evade paying my anger taxes

[leaden shard]

ignore pain but for taxes

[solid sun]

Stack avoidance?

[undone beacon]

That or stack leech to leech off the system

EZ

[jagged pier]

nope fuck all

weps okay i guess

[undone beacon]

Wep aint bad, thats the DB one right? Solid stats?

[blazing shuttle]

Hast Mast I think

Hast Crit*

[undone beacon]

Shield is nice but nothing special overall

[woven radish]

Got DB wep, sacbrood..... not too mad at it

[undone beacon]

Pulled this from nightfall, was displeased

[woven radish]

Lmfao!

Great job removing cloaks from the loot pool blizz

[lament osprey]

Craft shield or sword first? If not in vault and unlucky

[solid sun]

Shields are more important than weapons

[frigid valley]

mainhand from first raidboss too

[woven radish]

No haste shield to get from dungeon vault slots so just going to craft shield first since I don't mythic raid

[solid sun]

This past season the advice given here was that a max ilvl myth track shield was better than a max ilvl crafted shield, regardless of stats

Because of the extra ilvls you got from the myth track

So I hesitate to just send a shield craft immediately as a result, even as someone who doesn't mythic raid

[lament osprey]

This is for mythic raiding

[frigid valley]

seems u no longer get veteran from flames radiance

[cursive fox]

anyone has the spell reflect wa for s3?

[mellow bridge]

block value from ilvl > a few secondaries

[solid sun]

https://wago.io/ZqXZUJpu4

[cerulean tusk]

Dont mind if I do

[tight mural]

Tanking this season for the first time since legion, before simming existed I think? I know simming as Prot will only sim for dam, not surv, but is it still worth doing? Or just go highest ilv pref crit/haste?

[jagged pier]

simming was around a long time before legion what?

and you always sim as u can live anything with top simming gear

as survivability comes from play

not gear

[frosty mango]

Outside of getting enough haste to keep up shield block with in the fray (which is probably around 20k or so to be comfy with new tier) - all of our substats are very close from a survivability standpoint because living/dying is dependent on your play not your stats

[sharp gale]

Blizzard made sure every stats increase survivability

It is intended

[frosty mango]

You could stack like 50000 vers and nothing else, play heavy repercussions and probably clear +20s

Thats hyperbole but honestly its probably true

Jakey beat me to the “stats don’t keep you alive” conclusion, I really need to get a bigger phone. Or smaller thumbs

[vale escarp]

Btw do we still safe 15 Gilded Ethereal Crests with crafting an Item? Last Season it made upgrading m+ Vault items 15 Creats cheaper

[remote tusk]

doesn't look too bad, sadly not available in high itemlevel

[sharp gale]

It is 75 to upgrade the vault item, and 30 (60 divided by 2 weeks) for the craft, 105, for a 90 crest cap

[tight mural]

Maybe I just sucked and didn't have the awareness - totally within the realm of possibility hahah

[lofty warren]

What is the fastest delves to do?

[tight mural]

The new delve I was clearing in like 5-6 minutes as fury.

[sharp gale]

I did the new one too

[solid sun]

I did fungal folly

[glossy wind]

Slamming these m0 on prot getting ready for MDI

had a clutch kick in halls of atonement

[lofty warren]

I did fungal with group and the dummies all died.. like don't stand in the explosion omg

[solid sun]

I don’t do delves in groups

[lofty warren]

Takes long bc tank damage low as solo

[sharp gale]

They take longer if I’m in a group

[lofty warren]

My pwar o ky 650

Only

[sharp gale]

And I think shit dies as fast as dps or tank

Since they scale bc you tank

[glossy wind]

just hit 667 on prot

after quests and m0

[pastel sleet]

are we getting first catalyst charge on tuesday?

[frosty mango]

We have one now I believe?

I didn’t check but I though we got one week 0

[sharp gale]

I didn’t even check my bag or the catalyst guy for the spark

[undone beacon]

We still have last seasons charges when i checked on tuesday

Should get our first charge next week on season launch iirc

[timid crater]

You can fill gear gaps by crafting 675 gear using weathered crests.

[glossy wind]

lemme see

where you get the crests

[timid crater]

Vendor next to the crafting orders guy in Dorn

[glossy wind]

Nice

[glossy wind]

How do i get them tho lol

[timid crater]

You just buy them? They cost 30 regular weathered crests

[glossy wind]

You gotta do content to get that though

[timid crater]

Or hit up a quartermaster if you haven't on a character.

[glossy wind]

I blew all the ones i had on upgrades lol

[timid crater]

Ah

[sharp merlin]

Am I applying Rend through TC? So I use Revenge, mostly as the spender with IP?

[frosty mango]

As colossus you will spend nearly all of your rage on revenge or execute

You do apply rend through tclap

[solid sun]

Pom didn't you just do 16's

[sharp merlin]

yes, but thought things changed

[solid sun]

How did you already forget how we do things

[sharp merlin]

I am also the worst tank in the world, don't forget that

[solid sun]

Homie ate like 2 sirloin steaks and got confused about rend

[sharp merlin]

just double checking

[solid sun]

"Listen Rhino, man... I ate dinner at least two times since season 2!"

[sharp merlin]

cause boy do I spam the fuck out of Revenge 😄

[solid sun]

I'm just ribbing you

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/muscles-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10965222

[timid crater]

So Wowhead says... craft a shield with first spark... I'm sitting on Titan of Industry (heroic/671) from last season... should I or just wait?

[solid sun]

ilvl > everything for shield

[plush tendon]

wait till the season actually starts

no point in crafting now

[undone beacon]

craft a cloak methinks

[frosty mango]

If you can do m+ to get gilded crests next week yes a shield will 1000% be your best move

[plush tendon]

if you want to replace your 671 this week, do a 5 mask vision

and buy one

[frosty mango]

Unless you are doing mythic raid and think you’ll get the first few bosses down and want to roll the dice on that shield

[plush tendon]

or do some M0 and hope for drops

[timid crater]

Cleared all the M0s so far. 😄

No shield drops

[plush tendon]

horrific vision then!

[solid sun]

I will spam all the keys next week

[plush tendon]

and you can upgrade that to 691 easy

[solid sun]

And then open my first vault after keys. And then send my first craft

[timid crater]

Arrite. And yeah, I'll likely be spamming keys but not going into M raid until week two most likely.

[plush tendon]

it will be a +20 I level on your current shield

[solid sun]

And my first craft will be a weapon becaus Roid already manifested a myth track shield for me

[timid crater]

Also weirded out by the embellishment choices - the ones that are active above 80% hp... and that makes no sense on a tank either way? Or does it and I'm overthinking it that I might be losing stats after getting hit.

[solid sun]

Kind of him, truthfully

[plush tendon]

embellishments are minor

but we like the stat ones

they are decent

[timid crater]

Fair enough.

Thank you!

[solid sun]

I think you might be surprised how often you have the buff

[vale escarp]

Got 76% uptime last Season on +15s, it's fine even for tanks

[frosty mango]

You spend the vast majority of your time above 80% hp

If you are below 70-80 for extended periods something has gone horribly wrong

[sharp gale]

my bdk who has to play with the lens embellish

[true yoke]

quick question, warrior mthane with tier 4/4 gonna be good in keys?

[solid sun]

@frosty mango am i doing good

[viral jackal]

I have 38% Crit, 34% Haste, 24% Mast, 1% Vers. Should I do Verse in my Reshii Wraps socket? yeah?

[frosty mango]

Just wait until we get 4pc

And we’re stomping them both literally and figuratively

You get the official Roidburg seal of approval, hold on I have a picture somewhere

[frosty mango]

Assuming no changes it’s gonna be completely utterly terrible, unplayable even

-# it’s the highest dps tank but keep that on the dl

[frosty mango]

You would need to sim it when it’s available but as those numbers vers is probably a safe choice

[azure crag]

Man.
Man, it's weird playing a tank that's not blood dk after 4 expansions of blood.

I just....don't take damage as prot

My health bar is so stable

[viral jackal]

going from prot to blood dk alt spiked my anxiety

It's like "wtf my whole health bar? every 3 seconds? "

[gray mirage]

I feel the same way. Bdk -> prot this season seems to be popular

[true yoke]

so war tank it's gonna be terrible? like cant do highs keys?

[frosty mango]

That’s what you tell anyone who asks

But its looking very good right now

[true yoke]

haha

[undone beacon]

prot warr is f tier where it belongs so we should just ignore it entirely

thanks blizz

[solid sun]

Yeah we suck

A lot

[waxen cradle]

Warrior tank equals shit tank I would reroll just sayin

[lament osprey]

gg, back to pally

[true yoke]

i see, so should i better play pally retry and create my belf

[warm plinth]

Dooming only in the chat. We need to dodge the nerf bat.

[sacred jetty]

Any idea on when we want to start breaking our S2 tier?

[waxen quarry]

gg arms and prot dead

thanks blizz

[warm plinth]

See this guy gets it

[warm plinth]

Sim it but keep in mind if you are running Into the Fray, you may need to swap that to heavy repercussions when losing s2 4pc depending on your haste

[lusty grotto]

yes

[lusty grotto]

sir

[warm plinth]

Yes Nim

[warm plinth]

It's not my fault. I didn't know who to turn to.

My world was crumbling and I was like who can help me? And I just thought of Chef Nimchip

[lusty grotto]

let me call John Blizzard

[warm plinth]

It's fixed now but I actually got trapped between the entrance fog and the exit fog of a delve for like 15 minutes

[lusty grotto]

ok good, i dont wanna call John Blizzard

he can smd

[warm plinth]

Couldn't hearth, couldn't log out, nothing

[lusty grotto]

little pansy removing our achieves

[warm plinth]

Well I could hearth but it just put it on cd lul

[lusty grotto]

damn

[dusky canopy]

Daddy blizzard gonn use the buckle side of the belt if you keep fucking around!

[jagged gust]

I've been dreaming about my future guys, I wanna run a plant nursery while making warrior guides on YouTube and argue in the comments all day while I'm supposed to be working

[willow quest]

Hey guys, new to warrior. Are the wowhead builds accurate?

[warm plinth]

I wonder if they'll take Sense's away even though he redid it properly

I could see them doing that

[jagged gust]

Yes

[willow quest]

Thanks!

[dusky canopy]

Almost bet on it that they will automate the removal

[lusty grotto]

screw him, he needs to go buy milk and ciggies and never come back!

[dusky canopy]

So they wouldn’t be able to tell probably

[shut summit]

yea prolly auto removal

is easy enough to rekill so is w.e

[lusty grotto]

like Roid said, SQL query -> ctrl + enter

[warm plinth]

I haven't tried yet. Looking forward to it

[shut summit]

easily the best of the 3 delve solo bosses

[warm plinth]

Though if it has the red lines with the charge thing that she has in the other delves, it's gonna be a bitch for me. I can't see that for shit

[jagged gust]

Doing ?? Kyveza was interesting, walk in, get instant one shot

[lusty grotto]

underpin was the worst one

by far

[warm plinth]

I gotta show you my underpin kill at some point. I had invisible lines and still managed to dodge a fuckload of balls at the end (got frustrated with the mines so just let them spawn lol)

It was majestic