Can do tazervesh for mythic vault?
#protection
lofty warren
frosty mango
taz is not opwn
lofty warren
I saw on a yt video that it gives myrhic vault without having any timer or something
mighty turtle
might be the deathless run thing for the "extra reward" but it isnt open so nobody will know what it gives until next week i guess
lusty grotto
super sekrit nim guild checklist was redacted
lofty warren
Ok so all have to do is 8 t8 and the m0s 1x ez
lusty grotto
so 6 m0s total
lofty warren
What is 8 world activities? Is that the new zone mega world quest unlocked after doing 2?
restive oak
you can do 2 more for no loot to get a full dungeon vault row
lusty grotto
👍
cerulean tusk
Did not think of that
lofty warren
Ohh so it's 6x keys + 2 extra ara-kazakas for vault slots
restive oak
which one has shortest story right now? :p
lusty grotto
no idea i did one of the new ones to get to t8
i forget the name but its the same map as AA
restive oak
i need to rush through this content so i can complain about nothing to do
lofty warren
There aren't any coffee keys now to super charge dwelve?
frosty mango
ye im in
blissful mirage
You guys want to see something funny
cerulean olive
REEEEEE
lofty warren
Go to sleep servers broken
cerulean olive
i want to be degen and rush through the content because youtube video told me to be quick and efficient
mighty valley
cerulean olive
can you @ me when EU servers are up 
pastel summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tavtpSbRbQ0
Huh. How long does it take to unlock the delve?
restive oak
what do you have to do to get the reshii wrap on your alt if you have skip?
never mind, found it
blissful mirage
Huh. How long does it take to unlock the delve?
You have to complete a level 10 delve with lives remaining to unlock ?? mode. Did it in a few hours starting at level 4, then just teleported to Tazavesh and went right in
I was 674 with no artifact cloak so you can probably do this on any prot war alt you have
pastel summit
You have to complete a level 10 delve with lives remaining to unlock ?? mode. Di...
Aight cool.
pastel summit
I was 674 with no artifact cloak so you can probably do this on any prot war alt...
I'm like bis from last seas so should be an alright time. 
Just been slowly puttering through the quests.
drowsy shale
is spear alot better or can i still play thunderous roar with not much dif
lusty grotto
for what
youre not supposed to be playing MT until you get 4pc
and colossus plays roar
but yes MT plays spear
cerulean olive
spear players are cringe
lusty grotto
🤷♂️
nothing wrong with it
and you would be nerfing your burst as MT without it
so idk about that
restive oak
i still like roar on thane as a random oh shit aggro
lusty grotto
thane doesnt need snap agro
it already has it
since its bursty
youre ripping an avatar right off the bat, thats a TB guaranteed
colossus needed roar specifically for that reason
snap threat
and now, its just better damage overall for it since colossus builds are bleed based
the only reason why you would play roar over spear as MT, is because you prefer it
thats it
but its certainly not better
rustic sequoia
did they remove juggernaught?
lusty grotto
from prot yes
rustic sequoia
F
lusty grotto
not F
jugg should be removed from arms too or reworked
its garbage
and it nukes your parses if you get astro fucked on RNG after gaming it on adds
rustic sequoia
well doesnt proc based ravager fuk are parses even more. shits gonna depend on if it procs on adds or not
jagged gust
I did get 2 back to back procs on two singular leaper mobs after mowing down a good 15 mob pull
neon elk
Lovely
jagged gust
RNG be testing me
ionic fern
Yes.
ionic nimbus
rigid hull
why do we skip revenge talent as collosus?
is there no way to get it
maybe take out bloodsurge?
lusty grotto
because the 15% only applies to the procs
so overall its not as much as you might think
heavy handed and bloodsurge are more important
rigid hull
i should also clap on cd right
lusty grotto
if youre not good at managing rage, youre probably gonna have a learning curve
no
clap is lower prio
you can clap in ST if you dont have SS resets
and are hurting on rage
only reason why you clap is to apply rend and/or if low on rage and without SS
so low prio on aoe
its used more in ST for sure like i said cause you dont have as many free revenges
so you burn rage faster
solid sun
Also you can totally just play thane rn. It isn't like any of the stuff we're doing this week is challenging
lusty grotto
right
you just wont be doing as much aoe damage for now, but its not like it matters
solid sun
We managed to get 3 m0s done after an internet mishap
Halls of Atonement does seem like it's going to be a bit annoying
forest swallow
do you guys still use cyrce circlet or is it bad?
lusty grotto
shit is piss easy anyway
cyrce was replaced last season by 8/8 hero track rings or better
so it depends on what you have available
can sim
glacial skiff
Any of you guys know if the new cloak ilvl is account wide or do I need to upgrade each one on an alt to the weekly max?
fair beacon
Heyo. Question: just started and was scoping out the changes, is it worth going mountain thane already to get use to it (I hear its better), or stay colossus until I get the tier?
lusty grotto
stay colossus until you get 4pc
lusty grotto
Any of you guys know if the new cloak ilvl is account wide or do I need to upgra...
you dont have to collect the threads, but you gotta go to the npc
to up it
glacial skiff
you dont have to collect the threads, but you gotta go to the npc
Sweet thanks!
rigid hull
i have it
lusty grotto
ok then
lusty grotto
doubtful
fair beacon
where can I check for some good 11.2 builds?
lusty grotto
wowhead or icyveins
fair beacon
any preference or both the same?
lusty grotto
both are run by our admins/tcs so
either works
same as any season, and wowhead since DF
fair beacon
what I am really iffy about is the raveger node, never took it before 😄
especially since it seems to sacrifice taking INDOMITABLE to get it
lusty grotto
indom blows
and has blown
it does nothing considerable to us
its not sacrificing anything
rose furnace
idk which talent I want to drop for Sudden Death
Would it out perform violent outburst?
untold isle
so we stay colo till we get a 4p set? then we swap to MT?
fair beacon
ok then, one more thing: in some builds I can see spear and dragon roar being interchangeable. do any of them have an edge or only a difference in number of applications due to cd differences?
lusty grotto
so we stay colo till we get a 4p set? then we swap to MT?
correct
fossil horizon
thane nerf when
fossil horizon
pls nerf it this week dont give me hope
lusty grotto
ok then, one more thing: in some builds I can see spear and dragon roar being in...
same as last season
MT plays spear
Colossus plays roar
Colossus is more bleed based now (due to tier) so roar is a must
untold isle
but why is it not written also in the guide to stay colo till 4p thane?
fair beacon
kewl, mostly asked cause some wowhead MT builds suggested roar for aggro grabbing in dungeons
untold isle
or am I blind
fast oracle
but why is it not written also in the guide to stay colo till 4p thane?
it is
lusty grotto
and Spear on MT has been the go to to buff your burst, which is what thane excels at
lusty grotto
idk which talent I want to drop for Sudden Death
what for
rose furnace
The default M+ build on wowhead doesn't take it but takes all the other execute talents
lusty grotto
so?
rose furnace
I figure it would be good for the random AoE
fast oracle
where doyou find it?
right above all of the talent build links
lusty grotto
random is not good
fair beacon
watchu think about sacrificing last stand in some of the builds?
lusty grotto
there's a reason why its not picked
rose furnace
A random huge execute proc?
lusty grotto
what about it? last stand is severely outdated
lusty grotto
A random huge execute proc?
no idea, we cant recommend anything there cause its not optimal
but definitely NOT outburst
untold isle
right above all of the talent build links
bro, iam blind. where? on discord or wowhead?
fast oracle
wowhead
jagged pier
who was complaining about SR doing too little damage?
neon elk
Dude about to get us nerfed harder than we can imagine , hide thst stuff , but tell me how first
autumn pendant
God damn it Jakey
stone ice
am i seeing this right that none of the talent builds play tough as nails?
jagged pier
yer its bad
stone ice
still? ok
ive heard somebody say that it actually does respectable damage now but maybe i hallucinated that
the real heartbreak is playing all execute talents, EXCEPT sudden death in the dungeon builds
but i really dont see which talent point to move for it, unfortunatly
jagged pier
instigate
jagged pier
because its bad
stone ice
yeah, it reads as if it shouldnt be but i trust the math on that
idle copper
Is it normal that my DPS has dropped significantly with the patch ? I've gone with the default builds for col/Mt for m+ and both seems a lot lower
jagged pier
yes the talent tree is weakier
stone ice
well, id assume this is a "wait for 4set situation"
which is when the funny happens
blizzard please dont touch
idle copper
So the old tier sets don't work now?
idle copper
Cool ty
stone ice
wym, i love low frequency procs of shield charge
especially when it was coming off cd anyway
timid nacelle
Given we get meld pots this season thinking of a race/faction change. Been considering going dracthyr for the extra stops given we going thane and losing the shockwave knock up. I know dwarf is master class for racial for m+ but I just hate looking at em
neon elk
Pot shares CD with other pots so might as well still stay nelf
stone ice
they havent banned for the thing that injects different models on clientside in forever, but yeah id not risk that
i think they got rid of the most dire "be dwarf or eat shit" things in the new dungeon pool tho
idle copper
they havent banned for the thing that injects different models on clientside in ...
What thing?
stone ice
there is an "against TOS" program that loads different models on clientside, it was ok forever, then a bunch of pvpers streamed with their character model being tyrande or like, jaina, and blizzard banned some
but it only affects your client side, other people still see the character model you are supposed to be
one of my friends is such a tryhard he HAS to play dwarf but hates dwarf so much he basically started using that to be something less annoying to look at
neon elk
Dwarfs are bis for look, their racial is just a bonus
shy python
Why don't we pick this anymore?
jagged pier
because it doesnt do anyhing
shy python
The heal isn't good anymore?
lusty grotto
hasnt been good since DF
it got nerfed going into TWW
the only reason we played it in S1 was because there was nothing else worth having
shy python
But without it we don't have any selfheal at all
shy python
Yeah but not having a little bit feels weired
lusty grotto
it doesnt feel like anything because it did nothing
shy python
I missed that Oo
next shale
restive lagoon
Hey
Sorry for the stupid question: I don't know much about pwar (probably will play it for the first time this season), but with the talent changes coming with 11.2, should we already switch to the recommended builds of wait to get the new 2p/4p ?
lusty grotto
11.2 is already live
so yes you switch to the recommended builds
4pc only dictates whether you swap from colossus to thane
restive lagoon
I see, tyvm
fair beacon
Question: I was thinking about the swap some people make by taking the Massacre (35% hp executes) instead of Enduring Alacrity (5% stamina and 2% haste). worth?
lusty grotto
what are these "some people"?
fair beacon
randomly seeing them across the map while doing stuff, also practically half the builds given in wowhead (which I just noticed) 😄
man, I am way to archaic, trying to let go of talents I have been using for ages is hard 😄
lusty grotto
why are you inspecting people instead of playing the wowhead/icyveins ones?
sick sentinel
hey team, are the current "best" builds the ones on wowhead?
lusty grotto
sure
lusty grotto
man, I am way to archaic, trying to let go of talents I have been using for ages...
that's not being archaic, thats refusing to change/evolve
enduring alacrity got nerfed to not include armor which increases our strength
so its no longer worth
2% haste is too little
and the stam gained (which wasnt a thing we looked for on that talent) got nerfed from 8% to 5%
so...
you shouldn't grow attached to a talent that was massively passive and that now provides nothing
viscid lantern
there is an "against TOS" program that loads different models on clientside, it ...
yes it was called T-morph and was 1st launched at MoP or something. Blizz kept banning it with updates but dudes were also updating the script. Now they just stopped. In the meantime blizz created the Gleeful Glamour items from echanters but they have like 2 hours CD which is lame and the mats to craft them its just doesnt worth it.
frigid valley
anyone else missing bunch of gear?
gloomy silo
yes it was called T-morph and was 1st launched at MoP or something. Blizz kept b...
I can confirm. I was banned for 10 months for using Tmorph back in shadowlands. I had been using it for quite a while, on and off for years
viscid lantern
I can confirm. I was banned for 10 months for using Tmorph back in shadowlands. ...
shit man rly? I was using it till legion for sure but never got banned thank god. I wonder if streamers still multibox...
gloomy silo
shit man rly? I was using it till legion for sure but never got banned thank god...
Yah I used it for multiple xpacs on and off. And suddnely got banned in SL for MONTHS. It was out of the blue. But it is against the rules, so nothing I could do
lusty grotto
sweet girder
which fiber we using, haste?
ionic fern
Yes
delicate wave
3/5 storyline max this week?
chrome falcon
i don't want to play mountain thane AHHHHH
rough egret
then dont 🙂
chrome falcon
unfortunately not an option i am too optimisation-pilled after 18 years of playing
i'm cool with thane in m+ but in raids thane is so miserable
rough egret
everyone here is talking that nerfhammer will probably strike to MT, so we will see 🙂
blazing condor
people worry too much about what might be that they lose out on joy in the moment 
coral quartz
Is it thane in raid too?
rough egret
true
coral quartz
Thought we was slinging dick as slayer
rough egret
thane ST is higher yes, once you get 4p
stone ice
also it genuinly isnt "that" op
chrome falcon
Thought we was slinging dick as slayer
that would certainly be impressive though lmk where i can pick that
i'd be down to slay as prot
stone ice
doing big damage is one of the things warrior does, we can spend our durability resouces on damage, it comes with a tradeoff
chrome falcon
yeah but that's not what mountain thane does tho lol
stone ice
pssh
lusty grotto
it does with tier
chrome falcon
prot warrior hasn't been meaningfully able to turn defensive options into damage since the first patch of legion
lusty grotto
correct
chrome falcon
#bringbackfocusedrage
brazen plover
MT is litterally execute spec with the talents 😄
People actually play Mountain Thane Prot? It’s a joke compared to Collosus.
stone ice
i guess, though, my point is that thane warrior isnt even OP in keys, and it getting nerfed because its a SLIGHT raid dps increase to run 1 prot warrior and drop the fury warrior in favor of another DK? i dont think thane gets a turbo nerf just because there is one prot warrior in the RF
stone ice
People actually play Mountain Thane Prot? It’s a joke compared to Collosus.
its meta this patch
and it wasnt a "joke" last patch, colossus was just a bit better
stone ice
ok, a good chunk, but thane was totally "playable".
lusty grotto
thane was playable yes
brazen plover
They have said that every season so… I doubt that, I’m sorry but if you know how to play Collosus. It’s god tier for Prot Damage. Believe me I thought I’d only play MT since launch buts is awful and just not even a tiny bit fun to me. I’ll stay Collosus.
chrome falcon
alright well reading our tier set at least we can proc chain sometimes and that'll be fun i guess
stone ice
i think people are a bit quick on the "joke" rating
chrome falcon
but bedge
stone ice
joke would mean you are griefing by playing it noticeably
lusty grotto
alright well reading our tier set at least we can proc chain sometimes and that'...
tier is why we're going thane
thats the only reason
its big damage
stone ice
thane did some things you could legitimatly value, despite it being, on the whole, worse
chrome falcon
They have said that every season so… I doubt that, I’m sorry but if you know how...
you can doubt it if you want but you would be wrong, thane is very strong
play what you want though obviously
if i wasn't pushing keys and doing mythic shit i would definitely be playing colossus
brazen plover
you can doubt it if you want but you would be wrong, thane is very strong
My guy it’s day one of Season 3 you can have your opinions all you want but don’t tell me I’m gonna be wrong when you don’t even know yourself.
stone ice
you are gaining alost a mil ST dps
we do know tho, you can make a robot play wow 1000000 times and look at the numbers
chrome falcon
My guy it’s day one of Season 3 you can have your opinions all you want but don’...
i have eyeballs so i definitely do know myself lol
i like colossus more i wish i was playing it
sick sentinel
uh, does spell block not exist anymore?
stone ice
the nice thing about world of warcraft is, you dont need to argue because somebody made a robot 🙂
lusty grotto
i like colossus more but only cause the thane flavor has been played since DF
brazen plover
You do know that’s all old data and not 100% correct right? You guys really base your entire plans off old PTR data? You must not pay attention to how much Class tuning goes on during RFWR.
lusty grotto
?
stone ice
?
lusty grotto
brother
chrome falcon
the shockwave buff in the colossus tree and immovable object are way better
lusty grotto
that tier hasnt changed
stone ice
mods, kill him
lusty grotto
thats not "old data" at all
lusty grotto
or dont, cause its a doa talent
stone ice
thats not "old data" at all
hes from the timeline in which the patch launched a month ago and the rfw already happened
brazen plover
If we don’t even have Tier sets in the game yet that is not legitimate data. That is called speculation, look it up.
sick sentinel
enjoy spellbreaker!
ohhh, i see. gonna pick it up then ty.
silk pine
When do we change to mounten thain build wirh 2x2 set or 4 set ?😁
chrome falcon
4 set
lusty grotto
If we don’t even have Tier sets in the game yet that is not legitimate data. Tha...
ok but what is your point
its sim data
stone ice
i think hes trolling
lusty grotto
so its legitimate
stone ice
or he doesnt know datamining exists
cunning tide
If we don’t even have Tier sets in the game yet that is not legitimate data. Tha...
The stats are in the game and easy simmed. Your logic is fail
lusty grotto
what are you trying to communicate here
chrome falcon
i don't think he's trolling i think he's just insanely deep in the copium mines
he's trying to manifest colossus buffs
i almost respect it
stone ice
i think hes either a contrarian who, like a true poster, would NEVER back down even if hes wrong and will just double down infinetly, or hes trolling
mods, kill him
lusty grotto
im just curious what his point is
brazen plover
I was 3600 rating this season pugging, I very much enjoy theory crafting for the Warrior class.
chrome falcon
When do we change to mounten thain build wirh 2x2 set or 4 set ?😁
4 set but i'm just swapping now because thane is probably better for boring open world shit anyway
lusty grotto
you cant theorycraft while ignoring numbers
chrome falcon
me personally if i was a theorycrafter i would pay attention to PTR and sims
neon elk
Gratz i guess ? Your logic is still flawed
silk pine
4 set but i'm just swapping now because thane is probably better for boring open...
Ok thank you very much
lusty grotto
thats antithetical to how it works
brazen plover
Anyways I’m gonna go find people that actually know how to play Warrior to talk to. Have a good night everybody.
sick sentinel
oh, and ho wbad is the 1 button rotation for prot?
lusty grotto
why arent you saying what your point is
chrome falcon
oh, and ho wbad is the 1 button rotation for prot?
absolutely abysmal
sick sentinel
poop. 🙁
chrome falcon
we have one of the worst in the game because we have to play off GCD and the rotation helper is bad at that
lusty grotto
did anyone catch what that guy's whole deal was about?
i feel like i missed a bit somewhere
cause yes it felt like he was just being contrarian
cunning tide
did anyone catch what that guy's whole deal was about?
He is right everyone else is wrong, numbers the lot.
Just stubborn
chrome falcon
typical skyhold resident
lusty grotto
so in short nobody is sure what his point was
no wonder he couldnt answer when i asked him
he was all over the place i guess
viscid lantern
some advanced Excel shit reporting right there!!! Dude must be a Data analyst
lusty grotto
you must be new
that spreadsheet goes around every season
specifically for raid leads
neon elk
did anyone catch what that guy's whole deal was about?
I think his point was there is still tons of balancing ahead of us and our data is fake cuz it doesnt include that balancing stuff we havent seen yet . But he used most moronic way to say it
lusty grotto
well hes not wrong, but we cant really futureproof
so yes it'll change as it comes
and nothing is set in stone
but you cant theorycraft while ignoring data
like i said, its antithetical
sims matter
fluid widget
And data is data
lusty grotto
yup
fluid widget
It provides more support than opinions, tier lists, or postulations
lusty grotto
stone ice
i just didnt see why he was so emotional
just play thane while its very good, and then, just respec (its free!) to colossus when thats good
chrome falcon
GOD I HAVE TO PLAY FUCKING CHAMPION'S SPEAR AS WELL
stone ice
why be buttmad RIGHT NOW, about thane being good
chrome falcon
is there a third party software that shows people i'm playing mountain thane but im actually playing colossus
i'll take the ban i don't care anymore
stone ice
"have to" is strong wording, last time i checked spear did like, fuck all sim wise, its just a marginal improvement
chrome falcon
if my raiders see me playing the wrong talents they will kill my family on stream
but honestly i'll risk it
i hate spear so much
charred ivy
Yay thane is good again. I never went colossus XD
languid heath
Are sims not working for brew?
stone ice
i just like thunderclap doing damage. im a snap aggro enjoyer
i also like having functionally infinite rage to IP brute force myself to live through a nasty dot
though, seeing the dps meter suddenly shoot up because you pressed all your cds with colossus WAS very satisfying
and the self heal build on ptr before they (rightfully tbh) crushed it was very fun
stone ice
Are sims not working for brew?
no its actually doing 64 danage
they finally fixed all the monk bugs and it turns out, this whas the unbugged version all along
(i assume at the time that excel screenshot was made the monk sims werent done yet)
charred ivy
though, seeing the dps meter suddenly shoot up because you pressed all your cds ...
I was just lazy to swap and i parsed ok in keys so i was like meh xD
ashen owl
need new talent tree - anyone got one to share for dungeons?
languid heath
Tyty
viscid lantern
Going Thor mode and hearing blasts when i clap is more fun than colosus. Its more warriorish
lusty grotto
🤷♂️
blazing shuttle
Joins in
"Colossus better"
Shows it is not
"I am better than you all"
Leaves
What did that guy mean by this?
blazing ridge
fluid widget
Currently and without 4p col is better
But he’s saying ptr data and sims is useless and that’s what I didn’t understand
rough egret
might update this 🙂 was just checking journal today, there is also shield from Eco Dome, and one from Tazavesh, both are Crit/mastery, just FYI
short apex
EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
jagged pier
yep get it done before its fixed
lofty warren
what should we get now before fix?
rough egret
lofty warren
yea but i dont know what to do to get it
rough egret
use spell reflect on the daggers phase
jagged pier
well yes but they fixed it in raid
frigid valley
EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
need to face the massacre or whats up with that
rough egret
what do you get defeating her?
frigid valley
not that
lusty grotto
the mount and achieve basically
jagged pier
what do you get defeating her?
mount skin like the others
lusty grotto
same as the others
jagged pier
and achievement
frigid valley
spellreflect needs to be used twice yeah, there's a massacre mechanic where u seems to just oneshot
rough egret
sense has video on YT
jagged pier
i mean its a bit buggy i had to cycle through the whole phase
just getting mine up now but its basically the same
rough egret
😄
flat saddle
Tanked a M0 Eco Dome last night…didn’t realize how quickly I could rage cap on Thane 😅
lusty grotto
spellreflect needs to be used twice yeah, there's a massacre mechanic where u se...
you gotta face em
youre welcome
frigid valley
ah. bruh im to old to remember what order they spawn in
jagged pier
u have time to react
lusty grotto
they put an orb
jagged pier
they have a read line
lusty grotto
where they are spawning
lethal beacon
ionic fern
might update this 🙂 was just checking journal today, there is also shield from ...
Thanks,then they did changes from PTR.
trail forge
Bit hard to not feel more tanky when you're doing an M0 instead of a +15
lusty grotto
that too
thorny stone
did the sudden death id changed? the wa from nomeraturs doesnt seem to be working
trim delta
I saw the wowhead guide say we only swap to new tier once we have 4 set. Do we still play Mountain Thane without the new set?
west perch
use spell reflect on the daggers phase
As in nexus daggers? or is there another dagger phase? because when i try to spell reflect on the nexus daggers is just get 1 shot
lofty glen
hey guys. is thane now the new shit?
lusty grotto
not until you get 4pc
lofty glen
and what build do we run with colosos till 4p?
jagged pier
not until you get 4pc
fuck u im play execute thane cause fun
lusty grotto
lol
maiden grove
Is there a guide or youtuber people recommend for prot warrior?
Trying to set up bars and deal with the crazy amount of buttons prot warrior has and get ready for mythic raid
final cliff
Could've given whirling blade for fury or arms too...
solid sun
Did you go ahead and do the nemesis
lucid mica
Chat sadly I won't be playing pwar until x months into the season when vdh and ppala are full geared, hope you have a good season 🙂 this is top discords I'm in
west perch
EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
how the f did you follow the shadows?
trim delta
Do we still play mountain thane with old 4 set?
lusty grotto
no, read up
jagged pier
how the f did you follow the shadows?
i mean they spawn in order
lusty grotto
scroll up and read
jagged pier
so u just follow the order
west perch
i mean they spawn in order
the ones that zoom around you and you have to pick one?
trim delta
scroll up and read
Missed that. Thanks
jagged pier
same mechanic as nels layer
rough egret
but i think i found it
sorry 😄 😄 didnt realized i copy pasted wrong one 😄
solid sun
I haven’t even started delving yet
west perch
we are following it with 3 people and still cant keep up xD
jagged pier
use your mouse if your sturggling
but i dunno
i had no issues
just atand still on the one it starts as
and follow with eyes
solid sun
lol is it like the ball and three cups game and the cups get shuffled?
jagged pier
lol is it like the ball and three cups game and the cups get shuffled?
not really
jagged pier
i dunno its the one mechanic i never got wrong
jagged pier
i think it just seems like that cause the trail doesnt disappear before she moves again
also if u get the SR right im pretty sure u dont ever get the mechanic
anyway
cause youll kill the boss before that phase
jagged pier
west perch
nice
jagged pier
nope
lusty grotto
lean tangle
Getting lucky and getting tome on your first run. Feelsgoodman. Can't wait to live in Priory again spamming 6's 
lusty grotto
thanks, i went 2 days without thinking about that
cant wait for 50 more fucking runs again
also 0 myth versions
ZERO
lusty grotto
lean tangle
What's that? The new underpin solo fight?
west perch
yeah
lusty grotto
yes
jagged pier
its probably gunna get a whole lot hard ither later today or a few days
warm plinth
@lusty grotto wake up babe, new elvui dropped
west perch
better not use the schematic yet right?
jagged pier
no u can use it
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> wake up babe, new elvui dropped
ye
warm plinth
People were doing Underpin ?? at like 635 on non-tanks so I mean, it's not really unheard of that you can do the new one now no?
warm plinth
Ah okay
lusty grotto
well not broken, they just forgot to tag it as a deflect
warm plinth
Ohhh 😂
west perch
SR was 88% of my dmg
warm plinth
So we got funny pewpews in there
west perch
777 mil
lusty grotto
777 mil
mine did a lot more 🙂
but im kinda guessing i just landed it well and she probably had the hat damage taken debuff
blazing shuttle
So; we are going to lose the boots from the raid for a better cape effect.
Cape is the artefact of the season.
So, what will YOU craft as an embelishment? Beside the wrists, of course.
jagged pier
belt
blazing shuttle
Why?
lusty grotto
if embelishments are dogshit as last season it might not be worth at all
blazing shuttle
(Trying to learn from the best. Not sarcasm or anything!)
lusty grotto
they will be a sim angle
as in myth belt vs crafted
but it for sure goes on belt and bracers
blazing shuttle
But we, as always, go bracers, right?
lusty grotto
yea
blazing shuttle
Alright. Asking cause I just recrafted them.
lusty grotto
you always want a myth shield, so thats a no go
but its a potential early slot
so its just those 3
blazing shuttle
Thank you king.
maiden grove
How do yall have your bars/keybinds setup?
Addons?
rich dragon
i dont use 5 cause i have tiny hands
lusty grotto
just use shift / ctr / alt to mix in with numbers
i use 1 through 5 and a bunch of letters and just mix them with shift/ctr/alt
but yeah 1 through 4 works
rich dragon
1-4, F, G, R, Mouse Wheel Up & Down
Shift + ^
Alt + ^
Ctrl + ^
rich dragon
Brand of Ceaseless Ire actually good or a sim trap?
rigid pilot
Are we back to mountain thane now?
lusty grotto
not until 4pc
shut summit
Brand of Ceaseless Ire actually good or a sim trap?
it's good
rigid pilot
True but might as well go thane now and get used to it, only doing m+ anyways
lusty grotto
you do you
thane is used on both content types anyway with 4pc
so no need to specify heh
rigid pilot
I like it. Way more fun playing thane in s1 tbh, felt like a thunderking running around
lusty grotto
i personally prefer colossus cause the thane playstyle is literally the same as in the DF playstyle
but that's totally fine
rigid pilot
Ah! I didnt play prot during DF so might be because of that haha
maiden grove
there's no "correct" way to bind
I know but trying to wean off the one button and actually try to setup in a way thats playable.
Before that Ive always just been a clicker back in Wrath but I want to mythic raid so trying to figure all this out
prime sphinx
tried without spell reflect and got 52% till i fucked up so i dont think its too hard tbh
harsh trellis
WHich delve is the fastest to blow through
prime sphinx
i did kreigvald u only need to kill last boss rest just run past
lusty grotto
fungal folly, the sluice are both good options depending on the story
harsh trellis
fungal folly, the sluice are both good options depending on the story
thank ya
lusty grotto
i did kreigvald u only need to kill last boss rest just run past
which story ? are you EU or NA?
prime sphinx
eu
lusty grotto
yeah but which story does EU have
lusty grotto
it'll depend on it
i know EU AA is actually short
but NA AA wasn't that short
the stories that were up were different
the good thing about fungal folly is you can just kill shit with the spores, in any story
and sleuce is just... fast
though the NA story is just freeing the dudes and using the mr delve bot so that makes it kinda slower
that'll change in a bit though
since NA is about to hit daily reset
small steeple
AA?
lusty grotto
the new delve
small steeple
Oh
olive scaffold
is mountain better now even with old tier?
lusty grotto
no only with new tier
solid sun
No
olive scaffold
ok, thats probably why my damage is dogshit
olive scaffold
ok
waxen frigate
I remember when. I remember I remember when i lost my mind
solid sun
Are you crazy
lusty grotto
I remember when. I remember I remember when i lost my mind
was there something so pleasant about that place?
lusty grotto
Are you crazy
possibly
shrewd bronze
When do we Execute as MT in M+?
plush tendon
with the cleave talent, I assume when we can
plush tendon
I havnt swapped to thane yet
still rocking Col
which is literally just for delves
lmao
kind glen
What spell do we reflect for Kyveza
shrewd bronze
Sick, thanks!
solid sun
I’m picking up breakfast and then going home and starting delves
See if I can get her done today before it gets fixed
plush tendon
I’m picking up breakfast and then going home and starting delves
what you getting?
solid sun
I’m gonna be super healthy and get a couple cups of coffee and a half dozen glazed donuts for the fam
solid sun
Shipley’s
plush tendon
the fuck is that
solid sun
Idk if that’s just a local thing or not
plush tendon
Im from MA.... Dunkin is local for me XD
solid sun
Yeah we have some of those too
plush tendon
I shouldve seen the signs it wasnt.... not getting a iced coffee either
plush tendon
Yeah we have some of those too
theres one literally for every square mile
its a little insane
wooden widget
Im pressing execute when it feels good and that seems to be feeling good
solid sun
theres one literally for every square mile
lol that sounds like Starbucks here
And I’m not even anywhere close to Washington
plush tendon
instead of donuts, you should get bacon egg and cheeses for everyone
with hashbrowns
lusty grotto
makes sense since dunkin's was doing coffee before starbucks
plush tendon
makes sense since dunkin's was doing coffee before starbucks
Dunkin is a cult fixation in MA... dont ask me why, it just is
heck, theres even a SNL skit about it
plush tendon
poor lads
lusty grotto
well had, cause theyre moving to CO
plush tendon
I just spent the last hour in traffic
but be proud, I only honked half a dozen times
solid sun
Oh no
blazing shuttle
Only?
solid sun
Wowhead is ruining this for us
blazing shuttle
Wowhead is ruining this for us
What?
lusty grotto
the SR thing in kyveza
solid sun
They just posted an article about the spell reflect cheese
Now it’s going to get fixed before I get to her!
plush tendon
fucking wowhead
kind glen
her lair is in tazevesh
plush tendon
I wish we could back in time to the days where WoW news was slow AF
jagged pier
at least i did all the mechanics once
blazing shuttle
Voidrazor Sanctuary?
waxen cradle
Yeah was just thinking the same thing and thats why I hate Wowhead sometimes, I mean damn shut the hell up about shit like that. I mean do they work for Blizzard. It paints a big ass target on our backs posting that crap
jagged pier
it was always going to get nerfed btw zekvir had a similar thing
and wow head didnt even report that one
and it was fixed within like 2 days
waxen cradle
Yeah I concede they will nerf it, but let us have our fun a bit before massive attention is drawn to it
waxen cradle
Yeah true I likely will
jagged pier
nothing
solid sun
Were we able to do 11s season 2 right off the rip
For some reason I remember stuff being limited
plush tendon
not like doing an 11 delve is hard
Im sorry, but tier 11 Delve is the pinnacle of my mole game play
lusty grotto
yes, but the rewards were locked like this week Rhino
there's literally no reason to do them
other than unlock kyveza and cheese it for us
next week though, its just crests to a cap
plush tendon
will tier 11 delves still give gilded next week?
jagged pier
yes
lofty warren
Anyone have a link to the rewards tables?
plush tendon
jagged pier
and we can use the map for like 30 once a week right?
probably
plush tendon
yea save for next week
I wonder what delve prog I need to just buy them
cause once I can do that once a week, thats like half my gilded cap for the week
torn gulch
do you get runed from high level delves this week?
plush tendon
no runed or gilded
torn gulch
or is the runed cap blocked
plush tendon
we locked into just the weenie crests
torn gulch
ok fair enough so it's like last season
craggy jolt
how do we feel about using this spark week 1? I dont see why not right? maybe sword or shield
lofty warren
What ilvl does dwelve 8 drop without a key?
plush tendon
Destro looks fun
lusty grotto
how do we feel about using this spark week 1? I dont see why not right? maybe sw...
why would you use it without gilded?
torn gulch
i'm not crafting until at least next week
plush tendon
when all I want to do is play games
torn gulch
might even keep it until the virst myth vault
plush tendon
craggy jolt
why would you use it without gilded?
can get 691 right now, +10ilvl over what I have
plush tendon
I would save spark
lusty grotto
dusky canopy
Do not spend anything this week there is no point
plush tendon
you caneasily go do M0
lusty grotto
thats half of champ gear which you can get in m0
dusky canopy
That’s true
runic kestrel
Heyo, coming back after break and shaking the rust off. With whirling blade, is ravager just a proc now and you can no longer manually cast it? Button’s greyed out so I assume so, wanted to make sure I didn’t have anything screwy going on
lusty grotto
also world boss gear if you get lucky with armor type
lusty grotto
Heyo, coming back after break and shaking the rust off. With whirling blade, is ...
correct
warped hound
Heyo, coming back after break and shaking the rust off. With whirling blade, is ...
just proc
runic kestrel
Tyty ❤️
lofty warren
What ilvl does dwelve 8 drop without a key?
solid sun
I don’t ever craft until after my first vault with m+ in it
plush tendon
I don’t ever craft until after my first vault with m+ in it
are 2h classes still screwed over first week?
lusty grotto
it drops adventurer track
lusty grotto
are 2h classes still screwed over first week?
no idea, they did put a 2nd spark
plush tendon
like last tier you had to wait till like week 3 or 4
lusty grotto
last season
solid sun
lol
lusty grotto
or trying to, im sure its fixed
solid sun
I only play pwar
plush tendon
I miss the days where the first 2h of the raid was on the first or second boss
now its on the 4th
which is dumb af
dusky canopy
Can’t have 2h users getting their weapon in the first week
That would be “too good”
dusky canopy
Can we put agility two handers on the last two bosses again
Because fuckem that’s why!
lusty grotto
"no" - John Blizzard
"what is an arms warrior? oh you meant floor dps warrior KEKW" - John Blizzard
dusky canopy
It’s that specialization we over nerf anytime it’s reasonably close to being in the top 5
lusty grotto
jagged pier
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
waxen cradle
Arms is as usual in 
mode
solid sun
what did they do to arms
jagged pier
did u miss how little tuning warrior got?
solid sun
I don't really pay attention to dps warrior
lofty warren
This means you can get full 684 ilvl from spamming delves right now without keys?
frigid valley
think u run out of crests since its a 90 cap
dusky canopy
This means you can get full 684 ilvl from spamming delves right now without keys...
You can yes
The chest drops 684 pieces
lusty grotto
they just need to look at the imgur
plush tendon
lusty grotto
class fixed
dusky canopy
They abandoned it
lofty warren
Ohh okay so it's free 684 for everyone basically
plush tendon
i still dont understand why arms is hard to make decent
blazing shuttle
My people, I've seen that s uddenly, on WoWhead we take Roar instead of Spear.
If I may ask, why?
Plus, why do we NOT take the 'activate' Ravager instead of the "Randomly proc it"? Is it because Ravager makes our rotation too bloated?
dusky canopy
Ohh okay so it's free 684 for everyone basically
You’ll get the same 684 pants about 15 times but yeah it’s possible
jagged pier
wonder if they will leave the SR cheese as a consolation prize
it'll be fixed within an hour of blizz getting to work
lusty grotto
probably
plush tendon
truuuuu
torn gulch
isn't that delve table for bountiful delves?
lofty warren
Wtf method site says it has to be bountiful
plush tendon
for DK, War, and Pal
dusky canopy
They’re just going to make it so you can’t reflect it
jagged pier
wonder if they will leave the SR cheese as a consolation prize
also have u seen how little stuff our toolkit works on in raid this tier
dusky canopy
Bet on it
jagged pier
plush tendon
the 1800 sets are red and black
hardy snow
https://www.wowhead.com/news/spell-reflect-cheese-kills-hard-mode-kyveza-delve-b...
didnt Blizz said challenge boss will be available on next week?
plush tendon
shrewd bronze
wonder if they will leave the SR cheese as a consolation prize
How do you do it btw? You can only reflect 2 daggers right?
torn gulch
yes you re not getting 684 in non bountiful delves
jagged pier
didnt Blizz said challenge boss will be available on next week?
well its not
u can literally go do it
lusty grotto
didnt Blizz said challenge boss will be available on next week?
sir we have achieves
flat tundra
is this what you need to SR?
lofty warren
What ilvl can you get for doing NON-BOUBTIFUL delves now?
torn gulch
642
jagged pier
sir we have achieves
in before the roll back, even tho they didnt do it with zekvir
lusty grotto
is this what you need to SR?
no, you SR the same thing you did in the old Kyveza encounter
just watch the sense video
lol Jakey can you imagine
flat tundra
ty
lusty grotto
that nerf is coming tightly packed with the MT tier nerf
they will spam that execute button
lofty warren
They are gonna rollback, remove ur achieves, and give you 2 week ban for cheating 11 dwelve I'm guessing
jagged pier
lol Jakey can you imagine
honestly dont really care, you can still do it now. its 4 mechanics u just ahve to do them for a long time
lusty grotto
2 week ban means i unsub
dusky canopy
Pitchfork
torn gulch
They are gonna rollback, remove ur achieves, and give you 2 week ban for cheatin...
it's not cheating to reflect an ability
that's entirely on blizzard
lofty warren
642 ilvl basically useless. Why the heck is even want to waist time on dwleve this week
torn gulch
for vault
blazing shuttle
it's not cheating to reflect an ability
Feign ignorance.
Just say you did not know
And you happened to have done it
On mistake
:smug
dusky canopy
642 ilvl basically useless. Why the heck is even want to waist time on dwleve th...
Hero vault slots
lusty grotto
if only their warrior dev played our class instead of mage
blazing shuttle
642 ilvl basically useless. Why the heck is even want to waist time on dwleve th...
Socket.
- Cap on crests.
waxen cradle
At the idea Blizzard Devs would ever play prot warrior or warrior in general... you made a funny
lofty warren
Hero vault slots
What is vault for doing a bunch of m0s?
jagged pier
<:keks:936231610850897992> At the idea Blizzard Devs would ever play prot warri...
encounter designer forgetting to tick a box
blazing shuttle
Remember you CANNOT do Market this week.
torn gulch
What is vault for doing a bunch of m0s?
champion gear
frigid valley
champion gear
heroic
dusky canopy
Yo btw Tactyks said we get “extra myth crests from 11 delves this week” is that true?
Did I miss understand his statement
frigid valley
its not
lusty grotto
Yo btw Tactyks said we get “extra myth crests from 11 delves this week” is that ...
not true
jagged pier
Yo btw Tactyks said we get “extra myth crests from 11 delves this week” is that ...
no u need a map
frigid valley
ive cleared t11 and got nada
jagged pier
and we dont get thoses till next week
dusky canopy
Ahh got it I thought so but I was like well this guy usually knows some shit maybe I’m crazy
jagged pier
it needs to be bountiful, u have a key and a map i believe and u get like 30 crests
dusky canopy
So people with this warbound maps can make massive profit in trade chat
frigid valley
you re not getting hero track vault for m0
ay right my bad, spaced out was thinking of delves since he asked like 3000qs about it earlier xD
frigid valley
So people with this warbound maps can make massive profit in trade chat
bountiful stuff, is season related, there's no such thing this week u cannot get map or high end crests in delves this week
its literally green gear and valorstones
and vault prog
solid sun
t4 delve done. so close to kyveza
kind glen
can you even get the delve mount yet? lol
lusty grotto
no
jagged pier
nope
lusty grotto
dw i went through the same thing lol
dusky canopy
and vault prog
Ye that’s what I thought was the case that video just through me off
Thanks
runic kestrel
My people, I've seen that s uddenly, on WoWhead we take Roar instead of Spear.
I...
Ravager is a 1.5 min cd for 12 secs of aoe, whirling blades procs ~5x/min for 4 secs = 20 secs of aoe
dusky canopy
If you can’t even get the mount from cheesing her than it’s literally irrelevant
runic kestrel
And roar and spear are interchangeable as you like
dusky canopy
jagged pier
My people, I've seen that s uddenly, on WoWhead we take Roar instead of Spear.
I...
because they dont like spear
lusty grotto
If you can’t even get the mount from cheesing her than it’s literally irrelevant
you still get the skin
dusky canopy
Ehh I’ll just go back and face roll it when I’m 720 ilvl
torn gulch
you never got a mount for ?? you got a skin for the seasonal delve mount
torn gulch
Ehh I’ll just go back and face roll it when I’m 720 ilvl
that's what I did with both zekvir and underpin
blazing shuttle
Ravager is a 1.5 min cd for 12 secs of aoe, whirling blades procs ~5x/min for 4 ...
So basically... Whirling Blade is Ravager but better?
jagged pier
So basically... Whirling Blade is Ravager *but better*?
yes
blazing shuttle
because they dont like spear
Gotcha. I used to play Spear. Is it more of a: "Pick what you prefer", or is one better for MT? I suppose for Colo, it's roar 100%...
runic kestrel
So basically... Whirling Blade is Ravager *but better*?
That’s my guess
dusky canopy
It’ll be the perfect thing to do when I log in one night and go “man I’m kinda sick of dungeons right now” and then I’ll go at the ?? Delve boss blind and progress it for like an hour or something haha
jagged pier
i mean its slightly different
torn gulch
mechanics look very similar
jagged pier
and tbh even with gear its not going to be an 'easy' fight
lusty grotto
right but my point is he'll know exactly what to do
runic kestrel
Gotcha. I used to play Spear. Is it more of a: "Pick what you prefer", or is one...
Been reading wowhead myself this morning lol
blazing shuttle
Been reading wowhead myself this morning lol
Should have read more. My bad, thank you.
flat tundra
god bless
runic kestrel
Should have read more. My bad, thank you.
All g homie, on my phone so it was just easier to screenshot than type lol 😝
blazing shuttle
Aight I gotta try it