warior never shut up about how much dmg his execute do
#protection
tribal wharf
willow edge
I do think that execute needs to be a good damage button since we refer to sub 35% on bosses as the "execute phase" generally
cerulean tusk
It is called execute phase, but in true blizz fun detected fashion, the ability 
is not the best at all times during it
tribal wharf
i think something minor but important is "gibbing" overkilled enemies, ||(surprise it's from doom)|| and simply its if you deal enough damag, the target can fly back or even explode into pieces
like say you run into old raid
or you kill a roach
cerulean tusk
sure, why not
tribal wharf
or like, its like, you deal enough overall dmg of some kind during whatevr a game tic is in wow
like some like 3/5/10 second window
frosty mango
They gave it to hunters sorry
willow edge
They gave it to hunters sorry
I know. I literally said it after.
frosty mango
I know. I literally said it after.
I didn’t read it because I’m lazy. But now two of us said it so that makes it a fact!
tribal wharf
i think for prot on start of combat for first 10 seconds you can cast empowered above 90% hp execute, 1 time, hits 3 targets
increased damage
willow edge
Tbf, I looked at the upcoming talent changes and kinda thought the execute talents they are adding were a bit dumb for a tank.
slim dove
only warrior should have execute mechanics 
frosty mango
above 70%,
Imo we should be above to execute above 70
And also below 70
and red right hand should make execute hit all targets within 100 yards at 100% effectiveness
Also it should cost no rage
tribal wharf
i like my idea better 1 time use, deals x2 x3 dmg to main targ3t, cleaves
cant miss cant be blocked, parried or dodged, maybe avoid
goes through armor
maybe some classes get free choose 1 talents choose menacer or int shout, but y9u dont spend talent to have that option
i dont play other classes so i dont have great list what qualifies for that, but like maybe priest mind control, dunni its power lvl, one is passive pet, other is direct control channel
so mass invis vsmass sheep would be too powerful to put on that
that and id remove any ability you never ever will use, nobig examp.es again so like warrior prot slam and whirl win
cuz like you coupd do 50m ww dmg, but i bet you could have done 200m just hitting revsnge tc
frosty mango
@warm plinth
I thought this was you for a second and I was very confused
I should sleep
warm plinth
Lol. Bit different
limpid ruin
Meh close enough
tribal wharf
"i just, i need to stop for a second, because i dont think i've properly discuss this game, i don't think i CAN describe this experience. Every moment is suffering and confusion, and regretting every choice i have made in my life, because this is one of the worst things i've ever played, even playing this game under the best of conditions, with everything working, it feels like i've bitten off more than i can chew" civvie about some dos game
and thats the experience
sharp gale
Also it should cost no rage
Tbf I see prot more with fury type of execute / being a rage builder
primal rain
How long has this been a thing
frosty mango
Tbf I see prot more with fury type of execute / being a rage builder
I was memeing
But I could go for execute being rage spent based
You get an execute per rage spent
sharp gale
Im not, I don’t see execute as it is rn really fit prot, either lower the cost to be « execute costs as a revenge » or no cost at all / giving rage maybe weird since we have weak rage spender choices
In a sense it is either revenge or IP / this one being an issue for blizzard
oak ivy
austere ginkgo
me watching a Prot warrior with 22 lower ilvls from 4 months ago do more DPS than I can right now.
So I'm really bad at the game, huh.
violet ginkgo
But I could go for execute being rage spent based
aaahh something like after you spent X amount of rage, get sudden death?
blazing ridge
>me watching a Prot warrior with 22 lower ilvls from 4 months ago do more DPS th...
Could post some logs so we can have a look on why you are doing les DPS
austere ginkgo
I don't remember the last time I recorded DPS logs. How do people do that nowadays?
blazing ridge
You enable Advanced Combatlogging in WoW
type in /combatlog when you Login so you dont forget to turn it on
Need an Account on Warcraftlogs, download the client and there you can upload your logs after each session
If you are wondering why your dps is low, that one of more easier source to show you all the dumb buttons you are pressing
blazing ridge
Except from that just one of the easier Rotation explainations here ist: Shield Slam > Revenge > Thunderclap, IP above 75 Rage, keep up Shieldblock and use everything else on CD.
austere ginkgo
I thought 60 was the threshold for dumping rage into IP
blazing ridge
60 is fine I guess, but maybe you are unlucky with 2 Revenege and no Shield Slam refresh, which might leave you starved especially on ST fights
I still have the habit of sometimes pressing IP too soon, nothing worse then watching your SS TC on CD and no Rage... This often happens when I probably use IP under 75 Rage. Better to press it late, its not that super important apart from a boss here and there.
Mainly to just dump Rage to get the next Violent Outburst
frosty mango
I personally set mine at 77
It’s unlikely you die if you don’t press it
I have a weakaura that just plays a sound when I hit 77 rage
I hear sound I press button
Simple, like a warrior should be
I made it a super annoying horn sound until I got good at it
austere ginkgo
Good to know
ionic nimbus
I hear sound I press button
ZugZug
frosty mango
Rage is for damage
The best defense is swinging your shield repeatedly until everything is dead, that’s what I always say
blazing ridge
in my last priory 14 we went for double paladin pull, but somehow the Mage of the group didnt aggro and was standing there looking at me when I thought the next pack would be standing there already. Felt like shit
sharp merlin
I have a weakaura that just plays a sound when I hit 77 rage
77 you say? Good gentleman, I hit mine at 78 😄
I have a white bar on my rage bar which shows when to just hit it, it's free IP 😄
blazing ridge
Nice good idea, maybe I can change my ragebar to change appearance too good idea
autumn pawn
I once had a very competent tank compared to me tell me that taunting a mob will cause you to generate extra threat with damaging abilities while the taunt debuff is on the target.
He also said it works for aoe pulls in m+ as it affects more than just the target you use it on.
Can someone tell me if that is right as i can't find any information on it?
pallid quiver
I can't confirm the second part (unless you use AOE taunt), but taunt does have a hidden modifier to your threat generated
It's what makes taunt swaps actually smooth in raid is the main purpose
Since it ensures that, even if there's a DPS difference between tanks, that you will establish and maintain a threat lead over your co tank until it becomes time to taunt again. That's why it takes some hella cracked burst to pull off of you after taunting as long as you're pressing buttons
I think the modifer is only on the taunted enemy, but I don't know for sure, hence my first sentence
slender bison
Taunt matches you with the current threat pool of the old tank/player and gives you a small window of % threat gain above the 950% standard one. As long as you maintain DPS, the old tank can't pull it back without taunting. As with DPS, it can't pull your target unless it has like 10x your damage.
The default UI threat on a target 100% vs 999% doesn't explain this too well.
And since taunt is off GCD, there's no reason to not use it liberally. Especially in the 100-200% threat range
livid delta
Hello, getting the hang of prot warrior after first season tanking on VDH.
I'm looking at an ignore pain macro just so I'm not missing a GCD
Is it best with shield slam or revenge? With the feedback loop of resets idk which is best for ease
limpid anchor
You don’t spam ip on cd
livid delta
sorry ive written that wrong
limpid anchor
You mean main button ip which also casts ss?
livid delta
im using ignore pain to not cap rage only. but i was looking to add in a macro to use an ability with it as its off GCD
yes
as im using it to not cap rage, it feels right to macro in revenge as it can also reset shield slam
but im not sure thats the correct logic
limpid anchor
Just press 2 buttons at once, bcs you don’t want to use revenge during exec phase for example
livid delta
that was my other option 😄 just felt really odd to do
limpid anchor
Like if you want to pull and you press ip so you don’t die right
And use at the same time ss, you can’t tc
Which would be kinda bad
The convince scuffs you
slender bison
The only reason you do IP+SS macro is to snipe for SS when you catch it off CD. It's crucial to have maximum SS uptime.
It's always higher prio than TC
But you still keep the SS binding
drifting surge
I use naga and have SS on 3 and IP on 6 
slender bison
Sure, when VO is up, you do TC when more than 3 targets. That's about it.
cyan bronze
think he just means to get an instance of threat on all mobs instead of ss a singular on gather
slender bison
Bcs you got idiots blasting while you pull
That sounds like a they problem if you can't SC+SS+TC/Revenge in your opener
This sounds like laboratory talk or Myth 7 keys. You do SS because your next Revenge might reset it
If you lose agro in 1 GCD, I don't know what to tell you about the group you've having
cyan bronze
me when my starfall from previous pull instant agros mobs
cyan bronze
tc’ing early in a pull isn’t awful if the situation calls for it
limpid anchor
Their problem is your problem too
limpid anchor
But your key .(
cyan bronze
even less of a bad thing with buffed fbv next tier
perfect gameplay and timing keys don’t always align, you attempt to force them to as much as possible
cerulean tusk
You will be suprised how easy keys become completed, when you accept the mantra "Not my problem. If they die they die".
Healer or DPS run away with mobs, instead of towards you? If they die they die.
DH uses the hunt on pull? If they die they die.
Someone ninjapulls and dont drag them towards you? If they die they die.
Once you reach the level where the people learned that their life is worth nothing. You reached the level where they help solve any issue, and you dont create more trying to fix their mistakes.
cyan bronze
but for example, on aggressive enough chains with something like a boomie with starfall up from previous pull(not their fault), getting an immediate instance of threat on mobs is relatively important
cerulean tusk
cyan bronze
yes, they can run to you, but if they go bear(and triple their threat) and die to two melees or not go bear and die to one melee
there is shrimply nothing they can do there
🤷♂️
cyan bronze
meld can be used for non threat things?
cerulean tusk
Any meld skip, you can just use catform instead
cyan bronze
me when i die from tank chaining and my starfall is up and he tells me to meld(i melded triple throw chair)
oh ok let me catform throw chair
cerulean tusk
Imagine dying to a chair
Build more versa and bear, ya fluffly pillow of uselessness
frosty mango
Are you quoting me I feel like this is something I’ve said lol
cerulean tusk
Nah, this is just core tanking truth
cyan bronze
im p sure at high keys you will die through bear if no pws on throw chair
cerulean tusk
it speaks to the heart of any true tank
cyan bronze
yes, not all deaths are tanks fault
frosty mango
Boomies dying to starfall during chain is very simple to fix, just stand on top of the tank
cerulean tusk
He argues he dies from melees if he runs to the oposite side, having tank in between himself and the mobs
Lets be honest, he just dont want to move
frosty mango
Although I will admit starfall could use some tweaking with regards to how long before threat is active
cyan bronze
ya they can go bear and exasperate the issue, or get one shot from melee, if tank is good he lives
cerulean tusk
If the mobs manage to walk past the tank, through the AoE fest, and is still on you
then the tank is doing something wrong
cause that aint happening
cyan bronze
yes, unfortunately if a singular melee hits you in boomie without a pws
you’re probably dead in a real key
cerulean tusk
Just dont be in melee range?
cyan bronze
or he can go bear and have tank threat mod
i am telling you i have witnessed countless boomies perish on brewmaster aldyr gather to a single starfall already or mushroom proc while dragging mobs across the tank
it is an issue, you can help alleviate🤷♂️
whether it’s your fault or not is largely irrelevant, tbh, it really isn’t
drifting surge
Rule #1
Always blame healer
Rule #2
DPS are also to blame
Rule #3
Follow tank
Rule #4
Prot warriors are the best
cyan bronze
ive had a boomie die through me supping him when im on my disc there
also worth noting that certain mobs, you have to have an instance of threat on when you pull, like how umbral rush(previously) worked, and how the chargers in eco dome work
frosty mango
i am telling you i have witnessed countless boomies perish on brewmaster aldyr g...
It is a problem but it’s also highly predictable and solvable
On both players
If I have a boomy and we ass pull something I immediately intervene the boomy because I know everything is coming to them
But the boomy can also be aware of this and get to melee
cyan bronze
yes, it’s on both players
but absolving all blame is a bad gameplay habit when there are things you can do to alleviate it
regardless of if it’s your fault, you’re rarely in a situation where there’s genuinely nothing you can do, focusing on your own gameplay and playing better and not the misplays of others is more conducive to timing keys
cerulean tusk
If boomie doesnt use my zone of control to his advantage - I will grin down at their KFC looking ass on the ground
cyan bronze
and you’ll time less keys because of it🤷♂️
cerulean tusk
I aint running around, losing control on the rest of the pack, to save a chicken
Nah, I time more keys cause I no longer care
Ya be suprised how most PuGs react to "omg tank! this and that" and you answer with: "not my problem", suddenly they go "oh, maybe I should bring the mob I picked up towards the tank" - or even better "Maybe I wont press my CDs while tank still is gathering"
cyan bronze
if tc’ing early in a gather to prevent a previous starfall from killing your boomy causes you to lose control of the rest of the gather
cerulean tusk
Why wouldnt you clap while you gather?
I aint saying "dont do you job", I say dont overcompensate for others silly moves and actions.
If mr boomie got a starfall gathering things on himself, and doesnt move with me tho
fuck that chicken
cyan bronze
yes, and i simply said, if you need to tc earlier than you optimally would want to, to save your boomie, you should
slim dove
are you expecting the Boomie to cancelaura his starfall or something
cerulean tusk
cyan bronze
I don’t even think boomie can cancelaura it anymore
cerulean tusk
I am just gonna start copypasta my responses that already answer the question
cyan bronze
& standing on a tank is great, it’s not 100% effective
slim dove
Boomie isn't keeping up with you charging or leaping
cerulean tusk
cyan bronze
me when I randomly proc 3 mushrooms
slim dove
real
slim dove
cerulean tusk
frigid valley
Boomie isn't keeping up with you charging or leaping
a proper boomie is already at pulling range of next pack to insta moonfire so he deffo should be
cerulean tusk
I love the "it is nothing I could do, tank got to risk everything else" mindset of DPS players
cyan bronze
that teams in the mdi were having threat problems, and you are playing threat perfectly and nothing can be done to improve it
your mental is awful
cerulean tusk
Understandable, chickens do have attitude
Chickens and DHs, both are two different kind of strong attitude players
I take a chicken over a DH every day of the week
cyan bronze
tbf, saying that there’s no responsibility for you when a dps dies of threat is a rather strong attitude
but do as you will
not my 15$
cerulean tusk
Not what we saying tho
frigid valley
Chickens and DHs, both are two different kind of strong attitude players <:keks:...
owl>ret>havoc
cerulean tusk
what we say is that the boomie, should do his part or die
Rets usually pre-BoP, I dont hate em as much
cyan bronze
yes, you can control your own gameplay, you cannot control the boomies
cerulean tusk
Not my job to compensate for others
frigid valley
ive seen so many dumb tanks so i just stay mounted basically until gather is done
cerulean tusk
its their job to do their job
cerulean tusk
Not to the degree you tell it
I tank, cause others cant tank. It is not my job to botch a pull or plan, cause a boomie dont wanna catform run a bit
frigid valley
i dont even know what we're talking about, im just here to complain about moonkins
cerulean tusk
Trae, just argue you should heroic throw every single mob and establish threat the sec a starfall hits them. Doing one pack at a time - cause he dont wanna move smartly
Dont think I ever seen a boomie have problems using my zone of control tho
so meh?
It is a non-issue
ornate thicket
If you link route that really clears up what each pull looks like unless you as tank deviate from it. Helps your dps know how big the pulls are etc. If they blow their wad on a pack of 3 being looped into another then yikes
tribal wharf
this is what happens after the boomie dies and someone calls him out on dying too much orwhatever
cerulean tusk
Tell him to stop dying
as its his fault
I also tell DHs that the hunt into a pack the same thing
tribal wharf
i LOVE that entire steamed hams meme
cerulean tusk
same thing to ret that pops final reck as I pull
tribal wharf
EGADS my roast is ruined!
cyan bronze
If you link route that really clears up what each pull looks like unless you as ...
I mean
this doesn’t alleviate a starfall that’s already up from last pack ripping agro
or proccing mushrooms and ripping
🤷♂️
tribal wharf
thats if they have mdt installed, and a brain
and that assumes they then click on it and view it
cyan bronze
I mean, we saw boomies in mdi get folded by ripping agro
do we actually think there’s nothing you can do to play threat better
cyan bronze
cerulean tusk
It still aint my problem
slim dove
this doesn’t alleviate a starfall that’s already up from last pack ripping agro
They just want the Boomie to be fully passive and standing ontop of them until they give the thumbs up
cerulean tusk
This guy gets it
frigid valley
this doesn’t alleviate a starfall that’s already up from last pack ripping agro
this sounds like a once every 6 weeks issue which isnt really something that happens in reality enough to actually think about
cyan bronze
slim dove
average reddit user that posts their 3k achiev on week 20
tribal wharf
They just want the Boomie to be fully passive and standing ontop of them until t...
"wait for 5 stacks of sunder before doing dps"
tribal wharf
always has been
slim dove
Dont do Trae like that, AA
post io + credit score
frigid valley
like just do dmg while gather, just walking close to mobs they will rip aggro just by having a transmog
cyan bronze
PLEASE. Wait for my sunder. cancelaura your entire spec. Save meld for my misplays.
cerulean tusk
I love how Trae tries to spin it
cyan bronze
I simply advocated to not focus on the misplays of others, but your gameplay
And that was somehow an attack on you
🤷♂️
frigid valley
think ur mixed up with the #vanilla-discussion channel
cerulean tusk
Context is a thing 🕺
I just pray that ppl go away from this on my side, more than Trae - or the problem will just keep festering while the DPS keeps being apologist for their own failings
tribal wharf
I think being out of combat, and then you start combat, tank gets more aggro, dps gets DR, healer gets something similiar, for 5 or 10 seconds
is the solution
cerulean tusk
Problem here Yogi, is that DPS pull mobs before threat is established
not the threat mod per se
frigid valley
dont play with stupid ppl is easier solution
tribal wharf
part of why i think dps die
is because, there is no buffer between monsters casting spells, they jsut spam the same thing over and over
cyan bronze
I mean
boomie can have a second of starfall from last pull up
and proc a mushroom
and wallah they have mass taunted
frigid valley
doesnt mushroom require 3 debuffs to proc?
tribal wharf
in doom for example, each monster on waking up, and doing certain actions, such as attacking, then often times has to take a certain amount of steps before it can again do its attack
cyan bronze
doesnt mushroom require 3 debuffs to proc?
do you routinely let every mob die when chaining
tribal wharf
so there is a lul of not being attacked, grace period
frigid valley
do you routinely let every mob die when chaining
gather and chaining is 2 hella different things, if u have ppl die when chaining, imo u arent pressing buttons in my opinion
tribal wharf
cyber demon fires 3 rockets, pauses, and then repeats, makes him predictable and easier to fight
still deals like 90% player dmg per rocket
cerulean tusk
Have we moved the goalpost already?
cyan bronze
ill remind you
solid sun
It’s too early for arguing
solid sun
Cat I haven’t had coffee
cyan bronze
tc’ing early in a pull isn’t awful if the situation calls for it
this
was the initial conversation
cerulean tusk
Nah
that was your statement way way later no?
This convo is about tank not having to overcompensate for others mistakes and silly behaviour
cyan bronze
no
cerulean tusk
you defend it
tribal wharf
"bad tank cant hold aggro" transcends any wow raid
cerulean tusk
I disagree
cerulean tusk
Yep, cause I am correct
cyan bronze
tribal wharf
i've litterally had it happen to me in wrath
slim dove
doesnt mushroom require 3 debuffs to proc?
Sunfire procs talent, all damage procs tier iirc
cyan bronze
every player in every party is overcompensating for someone else
cerulean tusk
They shouldnt be
cyan bronze
yet it’s a problem when tank does it
cerulean tusk
100% not
cyan bronze
? it’s called being a team game?
cerulean tusk
A team doesnt force others to overcompensate, you compensate, you cower eachothers weaknesses and strengths in a balanced manner.
tribal wharf
on my rogue, on, it was noth for me
some garbage ass tank
couldnt hold aggro off me
cerulean tusk
The game is balanced around the trifecta after all
So ya make one part fail cause of your mistakes... well, it aint that parts problem. If DPS is being dumbdumb, let em die.
slim dove
tbf everyone is compensating for the healer
frosty mango
Are we still talking about boomies
cyan bronze
yeah
cerulean tusk
Not really, never was the talking point
cyan bronze
tldr is wait for my sunders and cancelaura starfall
solid sun
If someone dies because they’re blasting off while I’m pulling that’s their fault and I’m not changing how I do stuff to compensate for people who just need to stop doing what they’re doing
cerulean tusk
He just uses his boomie example to try to steelman something
tribal wharf
so i've LITERALLY been the dps pulling aggro and tank cant get it back so ppl laughing at tank and they trying to tell him how he can do it better
frosty mango
Everyone else can just die tho
frosty mango
because boomie is a meta spec and have the worst threat issues in the game atm?
No that’s ele sham
cyan bronze
are we stupid?
cyan bronze
No that’s ele sham
yeah maybe
cerulean tusk
You really double and tripple down on the only branch you can hold unto, eh?
cyan bronze
idk I don’t ever see ele proc double mushrooms a second into gather
slim dove
I played Boomie to 3.4 and yes, the threat issues are kinda unique.
Press MF once and hear my tier proc twice and my talent proc
gg floor pov
frigid valley
idk I don’t ever see ele proc double mushrooms a second into gather
2x insta chainlightnings after you hit charge button
frigid valley
anyways, dont like boomkins then dont invite them. easy
slim dove
It's like if arms had a chance to randomly proc a demolish 3rd hit when they pressed overpower
cyan bronze
wait wdym it’s not up for tank threat misplay?!
cerulean tusk
You still salty that you can meld, fbm?
slim dove
meld is a dps CD for Boomie.
solid sun
So is the argument that the dps should just be blasting off while the tank gathers and the tank needs to figure it out?
cyan bronze
So is the argument that the dps should just be blasting off while the tank gathe...
no
not at all
frosty mango
Boomy just unique because starfall auto targets so you can’t stop it
cyan bronze
the argument is that in some cases it can’t really be boiled down to blasting off
frosty mango
But like herp deep divine storm
cyan bronze
like when you chain and have starfull up from last pull
cerulean tusk
Boomy just unique because starfall auto targets so you can’t stop it
Yeah, but they argue that boomie shouldnt do their part to keep close to and move smartly around the tank.
That is the issue
cyan bronze
lmfao
cyan bronze
you’re an idiot
cerulean tusk
Nah, you just keep arguing your line to the point where it already died of old age
slim dove
letting your dps die over some perceived notion of misplay is some low io behavior
cyan bronze
cerulean tusk
So boomies can stand away from the tank, pulling mobs away from the gather
cause that is just what boomies do
frosty mango
Yeah, but they argue that boomie shouldnt do their part to keep close to and mov...
That’s fair I ain’t chasing someone for miles but I will and do intervene boomies frequently because starfall do be like that
cerulean tusk
got ya
cyan bronze
letting your dps die over some perceived notion of misplay is some low io behavi...
no. i am playing perfect. they must play better than any mdi boomie.
cerulean tusk
That’s fair I ain’t chasing someone for miles but I will and do intervene boomie...
Exactly, this is fair, as you dont have to fucking chase the chicken midfight.
frosty mango
I do let ret paladins die a lot if intervene is down when they’re behind me spamming wake of ashes and divine storm while I gather
cerulean tusk
well, midpull, not fight
cyan bronze
yes, but you wouldn’t take that level of responsibility
slim dove
So boomies can stand away from the tank, pulling mobs away from the gather
I don't see boomies doing this in 16/17s all that often
cerulean tusk
What
cyan bronze
hence the issue
cerulean tusk
yes, but you wouldn’t take that level of responsibility
slim dove
Statement wasn't about them dying actually
frosty mango
@undone beacon the boomies escaped the Druid discord can you please see them back
undone beacon
Oh god not the boomkins
cerulean tusk
Yep, it is the boomkins
cyan bronze
And I dont see boomies die in 18s
yeah idk what boomies you’re seeing then
cerulean tusk
Boomies that apparently dont suck?
tribal wharf
Are the boomies with us in the room right now?
cyan bronze
because I am absolutely seeing boomies eat melees at that key level and above
undone beacon
Don’t invite boomkins ever, ez. Phys god comp fr fr no cap
cerulean tusk
True and real
cyan bronze
im most certainly not gathering enough threat when I see boomies die when I play disc
you’d be correct
cyan bronze
but I did witness a boomie proc two mushrooms on aldyr gather and die through sup with my tank last week
cerulean tusk
Should've painsupp'd
slim dove
im most certainly not gathering enough threat when I see boomies die when I play...
I wonder, do you shield players when you see kicks about to be missed or let them die to fulfill some sort of self righteous crusade?
cyan bronze
through hp agro, sof
cyan bronze
I wonder, do you shield players when you see kicks about to be missed or let the...
no I actually shield someone else specifically to let them die to fulfill some sort of self righteous crusade
frigid valley
Should've painsupp'd
lifegrip
slim dove
Holy based
cerulean tusk
So many options, so little time
frosty mango
I wonder, do you shield players when you see kicks about to be missed or let the...
I play priest and I shield them though I don’t want to
cyan bronze
rookery is great for it specifically
cerulean tusk
Hopefully disc is around the tank as well
frigid valley
I thought they were supposed to stack on tank
nono, lifegrip tank away so boomkin dies for certain
cyan bronze
this sums it up well
cerulean tusk
I stand by what I said
undone beacon
I invite boomkins specifically to kill them so they become disenfranchised with the spec and play something else
cerulean tusk
Apparently you dont have to kill them on purpose
it sounds like they die all the time just cause
and there is nothing they could do!
Oh poor chickens
If only they got to play the game
cyan bronze
btw, this all sparked because I mentioned maybe tc’ing early
frigid valley
anyways, imma go do a priory with 3 boomkins now!
Il let y'all know how many times i lost aggro and they died later
cerulean tusk
If the tank dont clap while things are gathered, that is a whole other discussion that what you been yapping about
where mushrooms explode and the whole instance come running
and no simple gathering threat gen can stop it
they just come barreling down
icy yarrow
cyan bronze
yes, because when you don’t, things like that become visible, and your teammates die
cerulean tusk
and then the chicken die
cerulean tusk
Arent we all?
cyan bronze
enjoy strawmanning
cerulean tusk
I dont need to straw man
I got you right here
the strawman would be better tho, prob actually have some grit to it, some resistence and not simply fall over by itself
undone beacon
why are mommy and daddy fighting, this is prot warr discord we’re supposed to hug and zug
cerulean tusk
Cause daddy is done with mommy defending their chicken running outside of the coup and getting caught by hawks
Daddy want chicken to be safe in the coup
cyan bronze
all I shrimply said was to not alleviate yourself of all blame in a situation
somehow that meant to take on all the blame yourself
tribal wharf
i saw this the other day, apparently malicious compliance about HOA
cyan bronze
as I said, a strawman, but i digress
cerulean tusk
I refuse to take on blame for something that got nothing to do with myself
I am sorry, but not sorry.
cyan bronze
i saw this the other day, apparently malicious compliance about HOA
halls of atonement is malicious
yes
cyan bronze
i mean
tribal wharf
look, it wasnt wrong
cyan bronze
was i wrong…
tribal wharf
hoi
frosty mango
Can we get back to shitposting
undone beacon
cerulean tusk
Nah, I am still in que
cyan bronze
what were we just doing?
tribal wharf
i hate that place too, kinda, im really really torn if i like or hot HOI
undone beacon
https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-tony-sopranos-gif-21377332
Me omw to shitpost
cyan bronze
tribal wharf
oh, im thinking of the shadowlands one
undone beacon
Can’t believe roid stirred me from the void for this, there’s not even real boomkins in chat to throw rocks at
cerulean tusk
They are pretend boomies
cyan bronze
@undone beacon I played boomie one time
cerulean tusk
they are the same thing
undone beacon
cyan bronze
thank you
cerulean tusk
jagged pier
cerulean tusk
If we did, would be be talking about chickens dying to threat issues?
THINK MARK THINK
cerulean tusk
Phys meta rising:
- Raiding tuning happens
Stons shrinking
Ok, I am getting convinced, 18-19 area is really where you should go premade instead of trying to PuG it, eh? Not getting invited
frosty mango
Right now I want
Pwar/mw/feral/rogue/hunter
or
brew/rsham/ww/feral/hunter
frosty mango
100% I’d trade it for a bres
cerulean tusk
Pftz, jumpercables fool
frosty mango
Feral also has funnel
cerulean tusk
Fair point, but 5% AP
frosty mango
I hate that phys buffs are so wide
Like Skyfury + bshout + mystic touch makes it hard to create an ideal phys group
cerulean tusk
Well, if you skip the warrior, Skyfury loses a lot of steam
frosty mango
Like ideally you’d want an Rsham with prot war bc Skyfury is huge but also it’s not amazing for the other melee
cerulean tusk
as you bring a hunter, ya dont need the hero either
cerulean tusk
get blueman out of there
drifting surge
Wtb bladestorm for prot
frosty mango
Wtb bladestorm for prot
Press whirlwind repeatedly for 4 seconds
Dollar store Bladestorm
cerulean tusk
does about the same DPS too
frosty mango
Shammy got ranged interupt tho on a short CD and purge
Yea but hunter and rogue both have purge and monk has better control than sham
cerulean tusk
Yea but hunter and rogue both have purge and monk has better control than sham
Ranged interupt tho
slim dove
isn't mw perma dead at r1 keys
drifting surge
Brew actually doesn’t spin
We do
frosty mango
I just pretend I’m a shadow priest
frosty mango
Oh I play weapons of order
drifting surge
I like both
Brew I feel like a niimble drunkfu master that has lay on hands and warrior i feel like a TANK
frosty mango
Brew, like the other monk specs, has a lot of layered interactions which require me to think too much
I’m already big braining mistweaver
drifting surge
Brew pretty ez for me but probably cause i played it a lot
PTA makes it easier
Less thought
frosty mango
It doesn’t feel hard to be decent but optimization is a pain in the ass to squeeze solid dps
Whereas on warrior or druid or dk or dh I can do 2-3m dps on a raid boss and still effectively raid call
drifting surge
One thing i prefer brew to prot is the ability to save yourself with vivfy and expel where warrior I don't have that
cerulean tusk
Warrior just avoid being in that situation to begin with
Warrior dont need no saving
drifting surge
I survided PSF when healer died as prot, I felt like a god
frosty mango
Yeah if you’re needing saving as a warrior someone messed up.
Probably you but we still blame the healer
drifting surge
Rule #1
Always blame healer
Rule #2
DPS are also to blame
Rule #3
Follow tank
Rule #4
Prot warriors are the best
frosty mango
You need to put rule number 4 at slot 1
cerulean tusk
#4 is not needed to be stated, it is a law of nature, not a manmade concept and as such is not required to be stated in your silly little list
drifting surge
Rule #1
Always blame healer
Rule #2
DPS are also to blame
Rule #3
Follow tank he carries
frosty mango
When I’m in the group number four is intuitive because I’m top dps
It’s ok little dps buddies, I’ll do your job for you too. Just follow me to epics
drifting surge
KEKW
cerulean tusk
the fuck is that
drifting surge
cerulean tusk
season 1?
drifting surge
xD
cerulean tusk
Tell the DPS to press buttons
drifting surge
This was today
undone beacon
man if only you had a boomkin
frosty mango
Imagine a fury warrior doing 4.9m dps
undone beacon
imagine a fury warrior
frosty mango
Can you teach the rest of the fury warrior playerbase how to play
drifting surge
Was only a weekly lowkey tbf and i pulled triple pack with lightspawns that annihalated them but i survived (24 deaths btw) I never died 
undone beacon
Is fury not just... thunderclap/whirlwind every 4th cast and hit whatever button glows? lmfao
drifting surge
🗡️ 🗡️
cerulean tusk
🗡️ 🗡️
undone beacon
maybe a hot take but i fuckin hate bladestorm
cerulean tusk
I get it, but I love it
undone beacon
yay i get to sit here with my thumb up my ass in the middle of combat and wiggle back and forth wheeee
undone beacon
I get it, but I love it
touche
cerulean tusk
Personally, I like the little break from pressing buttons and get to enjoy the numbersplurge on screen
sadly the numbers are weak atm
but the concept, I do enjoy it
frosty mango
undone beacon
if priests dont pi me as tank i leave the key, ez
drifting surge
I used to get 95% shield block in DF with my macro but now I'm sub 90% I feel sad
But I still tanky
frosty mango
That was 3.7m details dps if he’d have pid be id have been over 4m, shameful really
undone beacon
I used to get 95% shield block in DF with my macro but now I'm sub 90% I feel sa...
wow this guy fell off, throw him off a bridge
drifting surge
Does Roid know Roidstack
frosty mango
The heck content are you doing Roid?
lol yes carries
frosty mango
Does Roid know Roidstack
I am roidstack
cerulean tusk
I am looking at it and my brain hurty
frosty mango
From a certain point of view
drifting surge
I am roidstack
solid sun
Did we resolve the great boomie debate of 2025
undone beacon
why are we stacking roids
cerulean tusk
Did we resolve the great boomie debate of 2025
Yep, let the chicken die if they stupid
frosty mango
Which is a total roidstack move
cerulean tusk
We know you aint, cause you aint talking about blended chicken
drifting surge
True
cerulean tusk
Who was the protein patch guy?
drifting surge
Or 24 inch biceps
cerulean tusk
The guy that lowkey was trying to sell his brand of patches
drifting surge
💀
frosty mango
Roidstack is the kind of guy who eats oatmeal and green beans out of ziplock bags to maintain his macros
solid sun
Pash are you a bear or war next patch
drifting surge
So many not forgotten
cerulean tusk
https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-icemav-top-gun-maverick-top-gun-maverick-funeral-funeral-gif-26848803
undone beacon
Pash are you a bear or war next patch
Havent decided yet. We're still finalizing our roster for prog and I may be the only warrior. Plus I don't decide until all the ptr tuning passes typically
undone beacon
I'm dissapointed that they removed the lunation interaction from the EC tier set alltogether
drifting surge
https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-icemav-top-gun-maverick-top-gun-maverick-funeral-...
🇫
frosty mango
This week is gonna be interesting, I’m back to CE raiding next season but on my monk and tomorrow I’m in for mug/gally
Haven’t done those yet
Doin it live
undone beacon
Take me please let me pretend I earned CE
frosty mango
What’s the over under on me scuffing it completely
cerulean tusk
Havent decided yet. We're still finalizing our roster for prog and I may be the ...
Current tuning allows for no DPS warrior, but I am sure it opens up before launch Keep hope up
solid sun
So you are a monk next season?
frosty mango
Because it’s not brown, mostly
undone beacon
I just don't vibe with stagger as a mechanic
solid sun
Some exploding
minor sparrow
open timewalking box as prot or fury
cerulean tusk
neither?
undone beacon
open timewalking box as prot or fury
doesnt matter
frosty mango
I’ll prob just do week one shit early on monk then send warrior keys pugging
I’ll still prob make 3k early, week one or two ideally
solid sun
I’m still not sold that we aren’t gonna have a bad time in keys
I’m expecting the nerf bat like every day
frosty mango
Well if history is any teacher we’ll go live with fueled by violence completely broken, and then get nerfed despite us reporting that on ptr a billion times
Like this season with revenge damage
cerulean tusk
True and real
undone beacon
If FBV goes live we'll be the meta tank for about a week before it gets nerfed and VDH is the go-to again
cerulean tusk
I did my part tho and sent in the feedback
solid sun
Yeah but unlike the revenge nerf it’ll be far more disastrous for my mental health
frosty mango
If dotc becomes viable as a m+ spec on druid I’d consider guardian for m+ seriously
cerulean tusk
Good, then you can tank for my warrior
frosty mango
But i can’t push keys as ec I’ll fall asleep
solid sun
Why don’t you already? Laser tree is great
frosty mango
I play wierd hours because I don’t sleep
Aka if not raid time I’ll be online at like 3am est
But not at 7pm
cerulean tusk
Nightowl gang
frosty mango
I leveled a shaman recently and I’ve started doing some keys on that
undone beacon
If dotc becomes viable as a m+ spec on druid I’d consider guardian for m+ seriou...
hell yeah
undone beacon
Again, DotC is looking strong for keys, if you can keep up the buffs and stuff
frosty mango
I didn’t link my main on rio and it’s very interesting to see how people treat you when they think you’re 400 IO 640 ilvl
undone beacon
Its almost like playing an Eye of Kezan the spec :P
frosty mango
Roid everytime he sees a dps under him in keys
Tbh not really, I expect most dps under like 670 to just get crushed
Why wouldn’t they? I’ve got 20ilvls and most likely a massive experience advantage on them lol
solid sun
My friend’s brother almost quit because I out damaged him in a workshop and his unholy DK had my brew beat by 30 ilvl
cerulean tusk
When I spot ANY dps do less DPS than myself, I want to throw them out of the window for being that shit
I am the lowbar
You cant go above me? Delete the game
frosty mango
I dunno I feel like spriest is the ultimate m+ troll atm
Unless it’s a higher key
But in like sub 15 everything dies
Sometimes I outdps priests on my monk
Never had that happen with another class lol
solid sun
Well after the key I asked him why his pet wasn’t showing up on details
Turns out it was on passive the whole time
I guess that’s a big deal
frosty mango
Oh man that reminds me of a good story
In df s2 we were in aberrus
And our tank had just swapped Hunter
He’s kinda geared and just perpetually doing sub tank dps and we’re sitting there on break and he’s lamenting it so I look at details and notice only one pet is doing damage
And I’m like “no shot he only has one pet”
so I ask him and he’s like “what do you mean yes my pet it out”
And I’m like no your other pet and he says “what other pet”
This dude raiding half a tier as bm with one pet
frosty mango
We actually clipped it and it’s in our soundboard because the incredulity in my voice was just
I was so floored
We still give him shit for it
undone beacon
Back during mythic antorus prog when i played BM i def did multiple pulls on Imonar without my pet out somehow
I was braindead then and im braindead now
undone beacon
Kezan bear sounds awful tbh
just means u gotta go fast, keep up them buffs
frosty mango
Bear seems so not ideal for kezan
undone beacon
Honestly what DotC really does is exacerbate an issue bear already has, which is popping like a blister when initally pulling a pack. EC has an easier time with it because it doesnt rely on as much rolling buffs/debuffs for mitigation, but DotC is squishier until you get a ravage chain rolling
But once the chain is going, you go pretty giga, its sweet
frosty mango
What does a ravage chain do
Damage mostly
small steeple
Damage mostly
and DR and stats and everything for DotC really
undone beacon
10% haste, 10% crit, 30% bleed damage, 10% DR, and a choice node between 35% auto attack speed or 8% agi + 20% extra ironfur armor
solid sun
So do you hit an ironbark or whatever the 20%er is called and just pray for a ravage chain before the buff wears off
undone beacon
Barkskin into a big pull, dump rage into ironfur to get armor up, Ravage with a Tooth and Claw proc, off to the races
frosty mango
Barkskin into a big pull, dump rage into ironfur to get armor up, Ravage with a ...
You forgot the part where the proc may take a bit
small steeple
So do you hit an ironbark or whatever the 20%er is called and just pray for a ra...
I think so? The reason Dotc isn't good in m+ beyond the mass scaling of EC is the rng of ravage and the high chance it will fall off, and with the s3 tierset I think it will happen much less
undone beacon
You forgot the part where the proc may take a bit
shhh. In that case just ravage when you have a few ironfurs rolling
undone beacon
I think so? The reason Dotc isn't good in m+ beyond the mass scaling of EC is th...
Basically. EC is also naturally tankier
Lots more self-healing through arcane/nature dmg
solid sun
Wait is barkskin really 40%???
frosty mango
I think so? The reason Dotc isn't good in m+ beyond the mass scaling of EC is th...
Ec is just smoother for m+ gameplay too with moonfire giving cdr for lunar beam so you’re basically always in a cdr loop with thrash/beam
undone beacon
Wait is barkskin really 40%???
With talents, yeah
frosty mango
Wait is barkskin really 40%???
Yessir 40% 45s cd
small steeple
Ec is just smoother for m+ gameplay too with moonfire giving cdr for lunar beam ...
yeah, and moon beam is such an ehp that you're basically immortal in it, assuming you having the healing/leech to maintain yourself
lunar beam i mean lol
undone beacon
I miss the start of this ptr cycle when we had a 15sec lunar beam cd
woulda been GIGA
frosty mango
Important that it’s 45d cd because if you roll into a big pull with no ironfur you’re basically 4 legs and no armor
small steeple
I miss the start of this ptr cycle when we had a 15sec lunar beam cd
Would actually be insanely op
twould be funny
frosty mango
No barkskin on a pull usually means dead Druid lol
undone beacon
Yeah, you gotta go into a pull with ironfur still up (or rage to immediately cast it), or barkskin
Sometimes I pop frenzied+beam asap but thats me being sloppy
small steeple
Not the most experienced bear, but I usually use Lunar beam on cd, and then fill with barkskin, or rage
frosty mango
I usually bark the pull then ironfur during gather with thrash
Incarn for large pulls makes you invincible
small steeple
incarn is legit the god mode spell in wow
undone beacon
love me some incarn
frosty mango
Energy shield from the belt also works very good on both Druid and war
small steeple
Energy shield from the belt also works very good on both Druid and war
on warrior too? I know its pretty nice on brew
and druid
frosty mango
incarn is legit the god mode spell in wow
“INCARN ISNT A DEFENSIVE”
undone beacon
I wish i could have venthyr bear back for turbo giga incarn
frosty mango
on warrior too? I know its pretty nice on brew
I use it on war, I find it solid
Just helps smooth because I’m allergic to ignore pain
small steeple
Just helps smooth because I’m allergic to ignore pain
us zug zug Col Smash players do have this probably
undone beacon
i hit ignore pain too much, its the bear mindset bleeding over
small steeple
I always parse like a 4-10 on healing in raid
frosty mango
I tank raid in battle stance and I don’t think I ever press ignore pain
small steeple
I tank raid in battle stance and I don’t think I ever press ignore pain
God I never go to battle stance, I forget to go back, and honestly, what 3% crit chance? or whatever isn't that large on the face of the whole encounter damage wise
undone beacon
this guy LOVES pain
small steeple
note to self:
Roidberg is a masochist
frosty mango
In raid you rarely overcap
I find myself starved more than not
Because I love pressing execute
small steeple
Because I love pressing execute
mmmm juicy
undone beacon
honestly when im dragged into like, heroic reclears I go thane
I like da lightning
frosty mango
These are heroic but I don’t press it on mythic either, my mythic kills are arms
jagged pier
Ppl press defensives on vexxie?
frosty mango
We didn’t log my prot ones
frosty mango
Ppl press defensives on vexxie?
I don’t press ignore pain on anything (except maybe rik because he’s a bitch)
undone beacon
Defensives dont do damage so i dont hit them, easy
frosty mango
Defensives dont do damage so i dont hit them, easy
Hello thorns of iron
small steeple
Defensives dont do damage so i dont hit them, easy
exactly, Thats why I hit shield wall on cool down
frosty mango
Ignore pain seems so secondary in raid
There’s not much consistent damage incoming, it’s just tankbusters and you have wall for those
undone beacon
ignore pain causes you to shoot thorns out of your skin, dealing...
frosty mango
I assume you ignore pain gally and oab
But I don’t have to tank those so
And tbh if I did I would probably be busy executing and not ignore paining
small steeple
I assume you ignore pain gally and oab
oab does need IP, but its so annoying cause its so easy to get jug stacks on the reel assistancts
jagged pier
I just cba'd chasing parses this raid, because i was the lucky tank that did everything
And still beat ppl who just tank
But by my standards for myself my logs are dogshit
frosty mango
The trick is to just not play defensive stance the entire raid and then you normalize healers healing you
Then when you need to ignore pain you just pop on defensive stance and continue executing
undone beacon
normalize punishing healers for their sins
frosty mango
Effectively pavloving your healers
jagged pier
Thats not making or breaking any parses at all
tribal wharf
normalize punishing healers for their sins
undone beacon
Thats not making or breaking any parses at all
it is cuz rage spent on ignore pain is not rage spent on execute 4hed
tribal wharf
undone beacon
rip prot juggernaut
tribal wharf
already do that
frosty mango
Thats not making or breaking any parses at all
Listen if I’m going to be stuck tanking boring ass raid im going to be entertained - which is to say the healers will be busy
small steeple
rip prot juggernaut
big sad
true yoke
hello friends, as war tank should i change stances?
undone beacon
nah
frosty mango
hello friends, as war tank should i change stances?
Generally speaking you can stay in defensive stance for all content
There’s some very minute optimization by going battle stance in raid at times but it’s a negligible gain only to be chased once you’ve mastered everything else imo
true yoke
I see, thanks Roidberg, tahnks Pash
undone beacon
yuhhh
do i go back into dastardly duos and do all the achieves before the event ends tomorrow?
do i care enough?
frosty mango
No
undone beacon
you're so real for that, thanks bb
i went and did just enough over the weekend to get the mount lmao
jagged gust
never chase anything that doesn't come with a dope ass transmog
slim dove
i have 4 right bindings on my druid and 3 lefts on my hunter
frigid valley
I been farming thunderfury for 10 years
i have 4x TF and both bindings on a priest
cyan bronze
The trick is to just not play defensive stance the entire raid and then you norm...
Idk why healers complain about healing tanks
Tbh
Like
Out of anyone in my group I could choose to only heal
frosty mango
They don’t complain in raid, you just don’t really need to in raid
cyan bronze
It would be the tank
solid sun
I don’t think healers complain about healing tanks in raid
cyan bronze
Like in motherload after first boss
I really enjoy how the dmg pattern is
big aoe group dmg->big tank dmg->big aoe group dmg desynced from each other
makes me feel like im not a passenger spec
cyan bronze
I don’t think healers complain about healing tanks in raid
Ya I just don’t get why they ever do
frosty mango
Remember when blizz said they were removing tank self sustain and we’d need to heal tanks and that’s ok and in exchange they would reduce pulsing aoe damage everywhere
cyan bronze
Healing tanks is fun
frosty mango
And then they didn’t?
solid sun
Wow is easy
cyan bronze
Yes
solid sun
Everything is easy
frosty mango
Healing competent people is easy
cyan bronze
But healing is the easiest role
frosty mango
Healing idiots is hard
cyan bronze
Healing competent people is easy
Well
slender bison
In raids there is so much random AoE healing/passive stuff that you cant die other than hard mechanics
cyan bronze
Healing idiots in high keys is often just not possible
frosty mango
But healing is the easiest role
Healing is the hardest role if you are truly min maxing
frosty mango
Anyone can tunnel brain and vomit healing - dps optimization is the healer skill ceiling
slim dove
dps is probably the chillest role below r1 keys tbh
frosty mango
Tank imo
cyan bronze
way more stressful than healing
frosty mango
You have very little to do as a tank
slim dove
ok but your playing disc 🦐
cyan bronze
true…
frosty mango
Not dying isn’t very hard, dpsing isn’t very hard, most of tank difficulty is just pacing and routing in keys which once your learn it doesn’t change
slender bison
Tank is the easiet role. But bad tanks have shit pacing or are too conservative and then everybody's bored and frustrated.
solid sun
A lot of absolute statements being thrown around in highly subjective context
cyan bronze
i just play whatever my friends tell me to play tbf
if my friends told me to play phys comp mw or rsham i would
undone beacon
i go on surv hunter and i throw bombs and go brrr its so chill
cyan bronze
I really hate not having a kick
but i pretty much do
i can just preshield all the bolts…
frosty mango
A lot of absolute statements being thrown around in highly subjective context
I don’t think it’s subjective that all things being equal tank is the easiest role to play, but it has its own component of difficulty, that difficulty just isn’t dynamic
solid sun
But all things aren’t equal
undone beacon
heres an objective statement: farming Sepulcher of the First Ones for the mythic mount is ass
frosty mango
But all things aren’t equal
If we only ever converse in the context of things not being equal then everything is subjective and reality falls apart
cyan bronze
tanking just feels like the most high agency role
slender bison
I think tank is quite difficult to play in terms of mental
Honestly, I don't understand those "I have tanking anxiety. The DPS will yell at me." Like lmao. You pay for a game. Play it
frosty mango
We gotta anchor it somewhere lol
cyan bronze
and that can feel very bad when keys go poorly
cyan bronze
Honestly, I don't understand those "I have tanking anxiety. The DPS will yell at...
i mean
i get it
i just tank and play to the best of my ability
solid sun
If we only ever converse in the context of things not being equal then everythin...
Which is why this conversation is stupid. There are too many variables between playing this game for absolute statements or blanket statements to make any sense
frosty mango
Which is why this conversation is stupid. There are too many variables between p...
You’re a blanket statement
cyan bronze
like if you wanted to time all x level, queue time aside, i think you could be the worst player on healer
frosty mango
To be more precise
I find your precision highly subjective
cyan bronze
Albiet you’ll eventually be blacklisted on enough people’s mental lists
solid sun
You’re subjective
solid sun
We are the warrior channel
cyan bronze
but the flip side of tanking anxiety is also
if you are good at tanking
you know, and people will tell you
frosty mango
I don’t think any of the roles are hard but I do think people will be people and impose their own barriers
solid sun
Tank anxiety has very little to do with tanking and way more to do with other people imo
frosty mango
We are our own worst enemies
cyan bronze
Yeah i agree
cyan bronze
I don’t think any of the roles are hard but I do think people will be people and...
Yeah i agree
For me healing was very easy to learn and start timing 18s/19s because mentally it was the “easy role”
frosty mango
IMO healers have it the worst because most players can and do blame healers for their own shortcomings
If a tank is bad it’s immediately apparent
solid sun
When I tank I have an easy time doing it. When my friend tanks he has to lean on me the whole time and gets super nervous when I refuse to answer what he should pull
cyan bronze
I think for sure, if i was like, “wow, healing is so hard” it would not be
frosty mango
If a dps is bad it’s not always apparent
cyan bronze
If a dps is bad it’s not always apparent
It depends on spec
frosty mango
A good healer can carry a bad dps pretty far
solid sun
But I can tank for my group and receive a ton of praise but then enter a pug and get flamed out of the key because I didn’t do the new Dorki route
cyan bronze
like usually for utility specs, it’s very easy to tell
last season a bad enhance or a bad mage, bad boomie historically is very easy to tell
but like aug?
frosty mango
But I can tank for my group and receive a ton of praise but then enter a pug and...
This is the same with healers too
slender bison
DPS has the biggest skill range. I'm not talking about kicks, it's about awareness and output. I assume lots of tanks here noticed when the DPS was so good you felt like you were playing in another league. No deaths. Kicks. You pull more, they can take it.
frosty mango
First pull of priory double knights into miniboss, dps eats two traps and dies, I’m doing four million hps.
“Shit healer”
cyan bronze
knights are so fucking awful
to play
can we just talk about how fucking stupid those mobs are
solid sun
I never pull double knights because the risk isn’t worth it imo
frosty mango
last boss of rookery, warlock stands in Africa and dies to dot, you know instead of dispelling himself
“Shit healer”
slender bison
You never pull knights after 16s. But they're nerfed in S3, so maybe we will
cyan bronze
I don’t think you’ll pull bottom knights
slender bison
Depends if they change count
cyan bronze
the overlap with clap is so disgusting.
ok big damage please heal but don’t cast
ok now there is big damage next tick
frosty mango
It’s fine if people use defensives but most of the time they don’t
cyan bronze
so tilting