protection

[nocturne spindle]

https://i.imgur.com/eyPQu9X.gif

[lusty grotto]

ok that one works

lmao

gif wall

ill be back next friday

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[mortal cypress]

where r u going?

[lusty grotto]

ive been Dune'ing

[mortal cypress]

Ooooh. Any good?

[lusty grotto]

its fun but

[solid sun]

I've also been Duneing but we haven't done much in the deep desert

[lusty grotto]

hackers galore now

[mortal cypress]

hackers already? :/

[lusty grotto]

already? they were there the first week

its just more of them

[mortal cypress]

I thought id give it a go once its actually finished and been out for a bit

well that sucks

[lusty grotto]

i posted a video on reddit, got to the first page of the dune sub

of a guy killing me in the pve section of the deep desert

and no names to report

[solid sun]

through combat or like getting a worm to kill you

[lusty grotto]

funcom took down the thread

apparently they think it advertises hacks

which, they arent wrong

but also they need to know its happening

[lusty grotto]

he rocketed me in a pve area

[mortal cypress]

you really need your game to be solid when it comes to stuff like that, even if if bots and shit still happen

[lusty grotto]

lets say you're in hagga basin

and some dude just murders you

[mortal cypress]

can you imagine wow pve and you just get ganked

[lusty grotto]

youre nowhere near a pvp area

and YOU CANT SEE HIS NAME on the kill screen or log

[solid sun]

Wild

[lusty grotto]

kill screen says you died to yourself, log says environment

[mortal cypress]

yeah ill pass for now lol

[lusty grotto]

theyve been doing wilder stuff

rockets going through walls

and speed hacking is the common one

they are absolute trash though if you fight them

they just run

literally speed hack away

[mortal cypress]

didnt GTA online have all that shit, and they slowly but surely fixed it?

[lusty grotto]

yeah but thats rockstar, this is funcom

[mortal cypress]

isnt funcome pretty big?

[lusty grotto]

i think funcom fixes it but... it might take a bit

[solid sun]

I read that the deep desert in Hyperion basically all packed up and left

[lusty grotto]

from what ive heard, my friends played conan, and it had the same issues but they fixed it and it got to be enjoyable

[solid sun]

Because some hacker found out how to get into people's bases and steal everything and change permissions on everything

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah

that one isnt that common though

if you are on your base...

and they rocket you through the wall

and your fief is destroyed

they can just put a fief and steal it

but oh well, we can manage, as long as they are bad

[mortal cypress]

I pretty much gave up trying new MMOs when I used to try them all, but I love the Dune universe

[lusty grotto]

its pretty fun though

you can run the entire story without touching the deep desert

i recommend at least that

[solid sun]

I did all the story and have been grinding out the hagga basin "dungeons" for gear

Building a base and more vehicles

[lusty grotto]

we're just sweaty andies that like pvping in the desert and maintaining control over it heh

[mortal cypress]

I want to 1v1 a Shai-Hulud

[solid sun]

I've spent well over 100 hours in it and have only had one pvp encounter

[lusty grotto]

yeah you barely see anything in hagga

pvp related, i mean

[solid sun]

A friend and I went into the buried lab in the DD

the pvp one

When we got locked into the waves of enemies we were like, "oooooooh this isn't good"

And then we got two different groups who came in during the waves lmao

Was fun, though. The last group killed the group with rockets and then took out the waves and then had a melee fight with us

We lost and they left our stuff in the lab

[lusty grotto]

oh at least they were nice

our server is all out war

we're allied with the heavy heavy gank group

but we pvp only when provoked

that being said, its still fun

the hackers are the problem

at least for us, the rest of the people just dont like to pvp so they complain about getting ganked or whatever

[solid sun]

We're small but we have some pvp enjoyers

Our biggest problem so far has been getting everyone on at the same time and accumulating spice

[lusty grotto]

this map rolled ass for spice this week, it seems like its that way for everyone

and then the change on top

to extend the pve area, just made it worse

if they had rolled a spice heavy map WITH the changes, it would have been better

[solid sun]

well the sand storm just went through yeah?

[lusty grotto]

first wave

it rerolls tomorrow at server reset

its two waves

[solid sun]

so we shouldn't build the base tonight?

[lusty grotto]

no

[rugged root]

hi, as i move up in higher keys (10-15) what can i do to absoluely out dps some dps lmao

[lusty grotto]

thats a very broad question

with a lot of factors

[solid sun]

Is the second wave going to change the map again?

[lusty grotto]

no the first wave just perma disables base shields

second wave is the map reroll and erases all bases

[rugged root]

haha, i mean obv not for bosses but from pull to pull i wanna try and keep up with third place or even beating third place dps at times to help with faster timings

[solid sun]

oooooooooh

[lusty grotto]

are you playing with the same people?

[rugged root]

nah i be pugging mostly

[lusty grotto]

then

its a very broad question

with a lot of factors

[rugged root]

ahhh

[lusty grotto]

you can just play better, have better gear, same thing that applies to everyone

[waxen cradle]

Is Dune good I have not tried it

[lusty grotto]

there's no magic trick

i like it, just stay out of the end-game area

if youre a solo player

[waxen cradle]

oh will you get wrecked ?

[lusty grotto]

#protection message can read up more above

[waxen cradle]

cool its something I thought of trying

[shell fox]

no spell block because blizzard are concerned that people need to track abilities to proper use

so cute of them, they really play the game

[cyan bronze]

Just like shieldwall does

Let’s remove that too

[copper gale]

Whats the difference between taking bloodborn and sudden death on PTR? multi tar vs single tar??

[cyan bronze]

bloodborne is the choice for m+ likely

[worthy lichen]

can anyone think of any m+ absorbs next season thatd make this good?

or this season

i guess rook boss

[nocturne spindle]

eco dome has a bunch of shields on trash mobs

[mighty valley]

I forgot if they did anything to make this talent easier to get next patch

[rocky igloo]

Any good prot 11.2 build for M+?

[stiff gate]

i take this in rookery for last boss but i dont know if there's anywhere else its worth taking

[zenith aurora]

is there anyway to make this also a mouseover charge macro (but default to charge @ target if no mouseover?)

#showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge

also is a mouseover shield charge macro worth it?

[undone beacon]

Fueled by Violence in big packs is crazy

[warm plinth]

#showtooltip /cast [@mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;[@mouseover,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;[help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Charge

It prioritizes intervene over charge but as long as you're not targeting a friendly while trying to charge an enemy, it won't matter. Figure that should never realistically happen so it should be fine

#showtooltip /cast [@mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene /cast [@mouseover,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge

This one is better functionally but the tooltip won't change at all.

[storm stone]

So is champion bulwark gone or baseline now?

[warm plinth]

In 11.2, the shield block part is included in Shield Charge.

[storm stone]

Cool

[cerulean tusk]

If HPS from FbV is above 3m, I will agree. What is the HPS?

[warm plinth]

2.69 mil total

so not above 3m

[cerulean tusk]

Bigbrain

[warm plinth]

Curious how much of that is overhealing though

[cerulean tusk]

FbV isnt that bad on overheaing usually

I had some runs testing things out for funsies, sec will check

[undone beacon]

It was a lot of overhealing tbh

I peaked at 3.21M HPS total, 2.69HPS by the time I wound down to three muscles

[cerulean tusk]

that moment when you havent uploaded logs in ages

so you got pages upon pages

[warm plinth]

I cba at that point

I just delete them all lol

Well, on the rare occasion that i actually care

[cerulean tusk]

I keep em till they are about a month old, cause reasons

got some good logs I upload while I am trying to find my prot HPS ones

that is a good thing at least

Quite a bit of overhealing

[warm plinth]

Eh, 11% is not bad at all

I was expecting more

[cerulean tusk]

Its actually kinda trickle healing, so it kinda cowers what is needed to keep you steady

Healer didnt have to do much that run

FbV is what, roughly a 25% boost to EHDTPS

With the buffs, I can see it really help shore up the requirments to become fully selfsustainable at these lower level keys

BDK did it better tho

[warm plinth]

@lusty grotto this is a good one too from plka's stream https://www.twitch.tv/plkatv/clip/BombasticViscousZebraFutureMan-3FQzJ3nAqvCnxPdH

[lusty grotto]

[cerulean tusk]

70 to 0, in one hit

[warm plinth]

Yeah it was like 16.5 mil or something lol

[cerulean tusk]

That poor Ignore Pain, it did not ignore enough

If he played FbV he would have lived, fr fr

[lusty grotto]

funky y u do dis

[heavy sparrow]

That's crazy work

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-golpeando-rata-gif-14429549142238864966

[storm stone]

wait wait wait. spell block was removed entirely?

[cerulean tusk]

Yep, but don't worry, that is just one of many nerfs we got. So in totale it just kinda goes with the rest of the situation

[storm stone]

well thats certainly not ideal

what did we get to compensate for it??

[frosty mango]

spell block, now 96% less effective

[storm stone]

wonderful

ah well so long as were still competitive i suppose

[cerulean tusk]

Sure

We will be able to tank mythic raid and get CE, Nps. And we will be able to do +12s easily.

So it's fine

[storm stone]

so long as i can hit 3k i dont care too much about performance beyond that

we can do all the content comfortably. i can live with that

better than that blood DK life right now

[cerulean tusk]

BDK atm is likely better than we gonna be then

[storm stone]

eeeh

theres still time for tuning right?

all my tanks seem to be getting hit with fat nerfbats

[cerulean tusk]

Blizz tried minor buffs to see if ppl would want to tank. Now they try minor nerfs, to gather data points

Maybe the solution is to keep making tanks worse. Ya never know

[trim delta]

Is Eye of Kezan worth having for raid prog next tier, or tome/pacemaker just beat it out?

[heavy sparrow]

We got big names saying things are good as the nerfs offsetting plan

[storm stone]

i did see yoda just released another tierlist saying we will surely get nerfed lol

didnt realise fbv healing got that strong

[wet osprey]

s3 prot the way to go it looks like aye?

[slim dove]

maybe

got weeks of tuning to go

[nocturne spindle]

S3 prot does the same healing as vdh

So nerf it duh

[fervent kestrel]

And here I am debating going vdh or prot. 🥲

[nocturne spindle]

It's okay right now monk is looking okay

So they'll nerf that first

[fervent kestrel]

Oh yeah, screw those guys, they aren't allowed to exist

[onyx hearth]

I don't like the design of it, I would much prefer to prot war have a better mitigation than more self healing, but whatever

[nocturne spindle]

I mean yea and no

If you go too deep into the mitigation part of a tank then no busters can hurt them without murdering other tanks

And if they have low self sustain they're basically dependent on healer to survive

[drowsy shale]

its just 2 tuning forks is what it is

[slender bison]

Is 5-mask horrific vision a pain to do as prot warr? Want to unlock Hero gear for my alt.

[jagged pier]

8 masks is a joke

so 5 is very much a joke

[slender bison]

Worked on a 3rd try, but vendor is not warband🤢

[blazing ridge]

Someone wrote that you can get gear for alts from the Arathi Highland stuff? But I dont know, didnt try it xd

but its probably not hero

[drowsy shale]

can garuntee a champ slot of your chosing for doing the weekly

1 nightfall for 1 champ

once week

[slender bison]

Still easier to get heroic from delves or M7+

[drowsy shale]

then do a 5mask vision and a 4mask vision for 4/8 and 3/8 hero tracks

once a week

[slender bison]

Alting a brewmaster already 640 and just dinged 80 like 2h ago

[slender bison]

I barely did with my Prot war main. It's horrible. Too many stuns and silences. Back to M+

[drowsy shale]

5mask is really ez but u do u

[slender bison]

Also, did they fix the cartel chip catch-up?

[drowsy shale]

yeah awhile ago

[slender bison]

Guess I need to spam 12 myths

[sharp merlin]

Can I ask a question about the corridor Creeper?
Is it the Eater of the Dead that smashes you? Or the Creeping Shadow (I assume the Shadow is dispelled by healer)

[remote anchor]

its just the stacking dot magic dam

[grim pilot]

If youre pulling multiple it stacks up pretty fast

So even if youre getting dispelled on cd

It still hurts

[sharp merlin]

But is it the magic

or physical from the eater of dead?

and what's the best way to survive? Hero leap to a candle so it goes off?

[slender bison]

The worm gets giga buffed from eater of dead and that's not a problem for you since it's physical. The problem is the dot. Tell your healer to dispel at 10 stacks. Use spell reflect and IP between dispells

If healer dispells to fast you kinds die if BsV is on CD

Kinda

[sharp merlin]

Very good thank you

Yeah wondered if it was the Physical or Magic, but I often try to Hero Leap to a candle so it gives some time for the stack to fuck off

[blazing ridge]

Why dispel at 10 stack and not earlier?

[frigid valley]

dispelling at low stacks doesnt do all that much except putting dispell on cd then u regain stacks again during its cd which can ramp up quick depending on how many targets u have, but ya, 7-10 is basically where u want it

[sharp merlin]

We can't spell block it?

Oh weird

it's reflectable but not blockable

guess they can't make it too easy for us 😂

[lofty glen]

just wait till we get pre s3 nerved of doom

[hardy snow]

dispel on cd, no need to hold, and its important to move these creepers from dead bodies

[hardy snow]

dead bodies buff is for dot dmg as well

[tribal wharf]

Pictured, blizzard developers removing spell block

[dull shoal]

high key m+ question -- I'm rotating CDs on bosses like Dailcry, Big Momma, (with the larger tank busters), and cant seem to live the whole fight. 681 looking to complete my 17s atm...warriors just weak to dots? do I need to run a second defensive trinket and just play it safe?

[lime urchin]

Do you pug it or can you coordinate with your team?

[dull shoal]

pug life :/

[lime urchin]

Oof that’s rough amigo

[sharp merlin]

Using mud?

[dull shoal]

mud and bombsuit would be the second one if needed

[sharp merlin]

Hmm, I don't think you need two, you're losing a lot of crit / dmg

Being in comms with a healer helps a hell of a lot on those fights tbf

[daring narwhal]

If you use CD on everything, it's a healer problem

[delicate nebula]

is shield block uptime need to be 100%? i guess i need a WA to monitor it?

[sharp merlin]

It should be 100%

[dull shoal]

bet thank you...need to find healer friend

[sharp merlin]

I'm more scared of the big pull after Dailcry, than Dailcry cause the dps want me to pull giga, but all my stuff is on CD 😄 ahah

[dull shoal]

yeah typically need to wait a couple seconds lol, ideally bsv up haha

[cerulean tusk]

DPS will understand if you just write "am dry"

If you dont, they think you are a coward :P

[frosty mango]

Avatar for wall, shield wall, shield wall, demo + last stand.

You’ll need an external for the fourth pierce or so, but you have enough cdr to cover most of them

#protection message

Here’s a write up

[frigid valley]

can pay 20bucks for an extra cd too

[frosty mango]

Remember the dot is the dangerous part so the earlier you press wall, the earlier it falls off - try to press it as close to the dot application as possible

You don’t need two defensive trinkets but at 17 I’d recommend running mud

[dull shoal]

thanks for the insight

[frosty mango]

You will need to understand how healers work, they can also prop you up but depending on the class you will be in or or less danger

Disc or Rsham can basically just brute force it regardless, monk has soothing but can’t use it during the other miniboss aoe so you’ll likely need help on the overlap. Rdruid probably handles the best because of hots vs dot, smooths damage

Paladin and evoker will struggle on that fight with warrior tank, paladin less so but it will be tough

[sharp merlin]

But the dot comes after the tank buster, correct?

[frosty mango]

Yes

[sharp merlin]

but you need wall for the buster, right?

[frosty mango]

So you want to wall as late as possible without getting plastered

[solid sun]

Big momma is a cheater

[frosty mango]

Technically I think no but you don’t want to lose a large chunk of health and force the healer to recover while you have the dot

[solid sun]

Eeeehhhh

That buster hits hard

[frosty mango]

Pierce?

It’s phys so I think you would survive it but there’s no reason not to wall it so I’ve never tried tbh lol

I use demo + last stand for one rota and I don’t die

But I do notice

[solid sun]

Well they mentioned both and momma actually hurts me worse than dailcry I think

So I was moreso thinking about her

[frosty mango]

Big momma is almost exactly the same as dailcry, just add spell block as another cooldown, and use reflect for each electro

[solid sun]

Block is good but doesn’t help with the dot

[frosty mango]

You won’t die with reflect up but it will hit you very hard, probably half

[frosty mango]

Yeah but the healer doesn’t have anything else to heal there so if you die to the dot they’re kinda bad

[undone beacon]

God I hate big momma, not because of the buster but because pug dps love to randomly pull other mobs halfway through the fight and then die to the sonic ring

[sharp merlin]

its the sonic ring for me

[solid sun]

It’s just so much

[sharp merlin]

they always point it to me

lol

[frosty mango]

lol just let it hit you and charge back to boss through it

Or leap over it

[solid sun]

I feel like I’m so muscle memoried into charging and avataring it’s hard for me to not do that and then I lose out on mini wall for a buster

And then the stupid sniper bots just go all over

[frosty mango]

I use leap charge on that fight for rage gen for ip sometimes

[undone beacon]

FILTHY!!

GET EM KIDS!

[frosty mango]

Pash laughs in frenzied regen

[undone beacon]

Little bit of Frenzied Regen here, little bit of Lunar Beam there...

[solid sun]

And she keeps telling me it’s time to tango but all she really does is stuff me in a locker

[frosty mango]

Every time I see a bear hold incarn for phase when I’m healing that fight it hurts me

Bro just send it on the first electro crush and enjoy your immunity

[solid sun]

Incarn isn’t a real defensive anymore

[frosty mango]

Wdym yes it is

It’s the literal best defensive lol

[undone beacon]

Bro you send incarn on pull and it'll last through the first electrocrush, ez

[solid sun]

It just gives you free regens and raises your health

And let’s you spam stuff

There’s no dr

[frosty mango]

Gives you spammable frenzied regen and also insane amounts of sustain via talents

Guardian mit is ehp though hps

Incarn is the biggest defensive you have

[undone beacon]

30% max health and no cd on your self heal, plus half cost ironfur and turbo thrashes for more healing and dr...

It is a giga defensive

[frosty mango]

Tbh I think it’s the best defensive in the game

[undone beacon]

Dont let the offensive power fool you

[solid sun]

Yeah so you hit incarn and die because you haven’t had time to do anything yet

[frosty mango]

It’s actually disgusting when you really think about how insanely strong it is

[frosty mango]

It’s a defensive not an iq buff

Can’t wall stupid

[undone beacon]

With incarn I have over 30 million health... if I take over 30 million damage in a global (more because of Assenia's Renewal), then I fucked up a long time ago

[solid sun]

Roid

I’m not stupid

[frosty mango]

You’re saying you press incarn and then die because you don’t have time to react?

[solid sun]

Regen is on the gcd and incarn by itself doesn’t actually save you

Literally died in floodgate because I thought it was just baseline a defensive and started gathering that big first pull

[frosty mango]

Yes but you wouldn’t press it when you’re actively dying you’d press it well before that

[solid sun]

Hit in the back and died before I even had an opportunity to hit regen

[frosty mango]

Ok but that’s not a problem with the defensive power of incarn it’s a lack of understanding on using it

[solid sun]

So now it’s a barkskin plus incarn angle. Problem solved

[frosty mango]

You can also charge the first pack and thrash mangle thrash with Pre Incarn, send ironfur while doing it, then hop up for the rest with 5ish stacks

By the time it’s hitting you you’re armor maxed and it’s comfy

[undone beacon]

This is the way to do it, yeah

Always pre-incarn

[frosty mango]

I don’t think that’s common knowledge

That it resets

[undone beacon]

Oh

[solid sun]

Why would it reset after using it before the first pack

[undone beacon]

I had to explain it to my guild that yes, if you want me to tank you will respect the pull timer and let me incarn

[solid sun]

Does the platform have some special cdr effect

[frosty mango]

It resets when the key starts

[undone beacon]

It works like Meta, resets on key start

[frosty mango]

Hit it like a pre pot

Lasts 30s so it’s up for 20s

So you basically get a double incarn on dungeon start

[undone beacon]

Lasts 30 seconds, so 20 by the time the key really starts, which is plenty of time to get to the first platform with it up and build ironfur fast

Dammit Roid explaining over me reeeee

[frosty mango]

That’s ok on the fingers of fire tier list @lusty grotto is still s tier

[undone beacon]

Too fast, too furious

[frosty mango]

Five fingers of fury

Or 10, or 9 - he may be a wood worker

[undone beacon]

But yeah, the amount of power crammed into Incarn is wicked. Fully kitted, its 50% CDR on Mangle, Thrash, and Growl, half cost on Ironfur and Maul, 100% CDR on Frenzied Regen, 15% Haste, 30% Max HP, and makes Mangle hit three targets, all for 30 seconds, on what is anywhere between a 1:30-2min CD

Throw a Lunar Beam in the mix for another 30% mastery which means more AP and HP, wicked huge

[solid sun]

I still can’t believe you called me stupid right to my face

If we were at blizzcon I’d buy everyone a coffee except you

[frosty mango]

I said you can’t wall stupid :p

And that incarn doesn’t buff your iq

[solid sun]

Pash come get your coffee

[frosty mango]

Both are technically true and I never said you were stupid, you drew that conclusion on your own based on my data

[solid sun]

I’m ungaslightable

[frosty mango]

I don’t think anyone is stupid, I think everyone can learn to be great at anything they just need practice and passion

[frosty mango]

Hold on I’m preparing my gaslighters apology

“I’m sorry that you thought I was calling you stupid”

[frosty mango]

He peer reviewed me why does he get coffee?

[solid sun]

He didn’t call me stupid

Out loud

[undone beacon]

☕

[sharp merlin]

Bears fun, but I cannot be bothered gearing another char

[frosty mango]

I do it mostly slowly

Two weekly delves plus the heroic map

Then the weekly chests if they give heroic gear

[sharp merlin]

It's more the fact you need to do 7s etc

[frosty mango]

You don’t have to, I think

[solid sun]

Only thing I don’t like about bear is that their damage is nowhere near what pwar damage is

[frosty mango]

I didn’t anyway

[solid sun]

At least when I’m doing it

[sharp merlin]

you're right, you can do it that way, slowly

[frosty mango]

It’s not imo

Im 667 now and im lucky to squeeze out 1.8-2m overall in a dungeon

[solid sun]

Oh hey let me ask you a question

Idk what this information means

[undone beacon]

Yeah, a well played prot warr will beat out a bear hardstop, but bear requires half of the cognitive effort for a decent enough reward in my opinion

[solid sun]

What’s the difference between the parse % on the left and right

This is 15 floodgate

[frosty mango]

Left is all keys right is the key level

Right parse is what matters for keys

[undone beacon]

The 99/24, oof

[frosty mango]

If you hover over the active % it will show you combat dps which is roughly details dps

[undone beacon]

man LOOK at that bear damage, wicked and crazy

[solid sun]

How important is the parse?

Like in raid a lot of times people will say gray parses don’t matter

[frosty mango]

Parse %

[solid sun]

Well the key %

The one on the right

[frosty mango]

Parse % for keys is zero important, key % is your damage relative to all other people of your spec in that key at that key level

[undone beacon]

Do people say this? :o

[solid sun]

For context I’m a heroic raider

[frosty mango]

If you are looking to improve, for keys specifically, key % is what you want

[solid sun]

It’s very prevalent at that level for people to say gray parses don’t matter as long as you handle mechanics

[frosty mango]

Heroic raid parses are irrelevant after the first week or two because mythic geared people will come obliterate the bosses in like 90 seconds and suck up the upper range

[frosty mango]

This is true in a sense - if the boss is dying and you are not, your parse is irrelevant

I view it as a personal improvement tool

Not a trophy

[solid sun]

So how am I a 97

When yall crush my damage

Just done doing 15s?

[frosty mango]

Because you did more damage than 97% of warriors in 15 floodgates

What’s your combat dps there, about 2.8m?

[sharp merlin]

Better than me, I think on my 15 I hit 2.1m

Prob cause I dumped most of my rage into IP

which I shouldn't have

[solid sun]

Yeah about 2.8

It was sub 3 which was my goal

[sharp merlin]

you're just goated

[solid sun]

I wanted to hit 3 so I could tag Roid

[sharp merlin]

your name should't be Rhino, it should be Goat

[frosty mango]

A few outliers doing dumb things doesn’t make you bad or even low skills it just means those people are better, which is true for everyone really

[solid sun]

And I failed miserably Pom

[frosty mango]

There’s very few warriors doing 3m overalls in the grand scheme of things

So I would say you’re doing very well

[solid sun]

Thanks

Momma had me sweating from start to finish

Absolutely loathe that boss

[frosty mango]

If you want to improve from there you log compare it to similar keys with similar comps

Also no shaman = no parse, for the most part

Skyfury is very big for damage

[frosty mango]

In a 15 without blasters I’d prob struggle to stay at 3m overall if I had to dump ip on big momma

Did you skip bubbles?

[solid sun]

Nope

[frosty mango]

You’d have made 3m combat dps if you did

Probably crushed your overall

[solid sun]

And we missed the timer by 30 seconds

But the mage sent me this and told me to find two new dps

I didn’t realize my dudes were gray key parsing

[frosty mango]

Your overalls weren’t too low but I suspect you did big momma first?

[solid sun]

Just the first pull with the five pack, then to duo boss, then to momma

[frosty mango]

Ok so you had lust for momma

[solid sun]

Skipped the blood caster guy above the momma arena but fought Bubbles

[frosty mango]

Yeah those guys were kinda trolling you then but the mages dps will be higher because he can funnel big momma

[nocturne spindle]

Gray parsing on keys is less egregious than on raid since the split buy key level means your only ever compared against other people doing high keys

Buts it's not good

[solid sun]

He swapped from outlaw to arcane for that key specifically for that

[sharp merlin]

But outlaw out benefit more from you as War lol

[undone beacon]

Happy to see surv hunter in a 15 but sad to see they sucked lmfao

[frosty mango]

I don’t think they sucked

Prob extremely low representation of surv in a 15 so it would be relatively harder to parse vs arcane mage

[sharp merlin]

Did you time the Key @solid sun ?

[solid sun]

He tries really hard but this is his first season ever going above 10s. Mine too

[solid sun]

No. 30 seconds over time

[undone beacon]

24% key parse means he's doin somethin wrong I'd imagine

[frosty mango]

Not necessarily

[sharp merlin]

Oh shit :(( sorry bro

[solid sun]

We will get it eventually

[frosty mango]

He could have died on a boss out of his control

Or the arcane mage could have nuked a large pack while his cds were down

[sharp merlin]

I remember Floodgate being the first 15 I did, I shit my pants on the mob before the last boss

and I remember praying the last boss would be over quick LOL

[undone beacon]

You'd have to look at the log itself I s'pose to know for sure, yeah

[solid sun]

Spell block does a lot of heavy lifting on the double hobgoblin dudes

[nocturne spindle]

I feel like most keys in the season end up like this lma

[sharp merlin]

I did not know that at the time LOL

[frosty mango]

If you gray parse multiple keys repeatedly I’d say that’s a problem but one key in a vaccum I don’t think that’s indicative - there’s too many variables

That’s why I said it’s a personal improvement tool not a trophy tool

Raid is easier to draw comparisons but keys have so many variables impacting dps you really can’t

[undone beacon]

Regardless, more surv hunter in high keys please

[frosty mango]

Like for example let’s say your healer was weak and the hunter popped turtle a lot and sat for big mechs

[undone beacon]

I want to push on my hunter just for the bit lol

[sharp merlin]

Why is there a 'Bear' in your log?

[frosty mango]

His dps is low and thus his parse

Is he bad or is he good?

[nocturne spindle]

Hunter talent pet shenanigans

[undone beacon]

hes bad, big numbie all that matters fr fr ong

[sharp merlin]

LOL

[frosty mango]

Objectively good player doing what it takes to stay alive, bad parse

[undone beacon]

Hunter hero talent pet

[frosty mango]

lol

I give everyone the same advice, whether it’s at work or my kid or in my guild. Focus on you, don’t draw comparisons unless it’s to improve yourself

[undone beacon]

Roid sees us all as his children confirmed

[frosty mango]

If you focus on improving yourself constantly instead of comparing yourself constantly, you’ll end up much better off in the long run

[sharp merlin]

Good life advice Roidberg, the Mud Evangelist!

[undone beacon]

Preach

[frosty mango]

That and focus on the things you can control and not the ones you can’t

[nocturne spindle]

As far as your own parse I'd say the logic of purple being good enough and orange/pink being comp dependant is usually pretty true

For tanks specifically

[sharp merlin]

Also @solid sun take pleasure in the fact you're playing with friends, people often forget WoW isn't a solo game. It's partly why I stopped pugging after 15s cause even though I timed it, I had no sense of achievement cause I had no one else to share the excitement of beating a hard key

and yes, you can laugh at me cause I called a 15 a high key

[frosty mango]

High is relative

And I’d say 15 is high objectively when you look at how many people do 15 vs the player base

[undone beacon]

People in my guild put a push team together for keys and it fell apart after we timed like, 2 15s. Was very disappointing

Debating whether I want to finish out 15 resil or just say screw it

Its a lot more fun in a group with the lads

[frosty mango]

If you pug, do one a day

[sharp merlin]

yeah exactly, cause you can laugh when you wipe, and try again, and you're beating the challenge together

[frosty mango]

That’s how I survive pug life

[undone beacon]

that is if you play with people who can laugh about a wipe and not get upset about it

Group fell into the trap of taking ourselves way too seriously I think

The lead guy wrote a 10 page document outlining expectations and shit

[sharp merlin]

Oh shit

nah fuck that ahahah

it's not that deep

[solid sun]

Yeah it’s all just a fun video game. When I die I laugh about it and when they mess up we laugh about it. The number of times they interrupt something that I’ve pressed spell reflect for has basically become a running joke at this point

[sharp merlin]

I won't play with people who take it too seriously, I played a super high level of csgo, which burnt me out, I can't do that again

[solid sun]

Every now and then one of us feels particularly responsible for a fail and it feels bad but that’s when you stretch the legs and reset the mental

[undone beacon]

Hey, as a group we're sitting at ninth in all brackets in north america for horde teams (ignore the staggering amount of stipulations there), so obviously we baller

[frosty mango]

I would actually die

Of laughter

[undone beacon]

It was a bit wild lol

Truly a fucking M+ Manifesto

That guy is taking a break from WoW, which is probably for the best for his mental rn lol

[solid sun]

You should share it

I’d love to read it

[frosty mango]

My m+ group making experience consists of me getting in a shared discord of friends over the years and sending a “keys with the boyz” bat signal

[undone beacon]

This has been my typical experience with multiple groups lol

[frosty mango]

If I’m in a key and someone is awesome

I send em a discord link

Vibe is the most important

Wow is a game, some of these people are insane

[solid sun]

I know someone who is trying to get a raiding guild established

They believe in mandatory voice chat time

Because it will lead to bonds being created

Just the most overbearing type stuff

[undone beacon]

I think he deleted it honestly, it was pinned in the discord but now I dont see it >:c

[frosty mango]

I’m a big believer in voice chat for CE but also no one needs to be forced

[solid sun]

I don’t mean for raiding

They believe in mandatory voice chat related activities outside of raid time to “create bonds of friendship”

[frosty mango]

I also believe in mandatory voice chat outside of raid time to create bonds of friendship. Except I’m using my voice irl and not on discord

Some people treat wow guilds like jobs and that’s their thing I guess, who am I to take their joy

I just don’t like that vibe

[undone beacon]

I encourage people to hop into discord and chill with the lads on a saturday night if y'aint got nothing else happening but like, mandatory is wild

[sharp merlin]

Bro dont even. I had a guy who was on his alt at 3.7k and left because he said "You need to learn this mechanic, you will do this key again to learn". And left the key, despite us being on track to +2 it.

Some people are fucking psychos

[undone beacon]

Thats some "Why weren't you at the happy hour? type shit

[solid sun]

Anytime the word “mandatory” gets used I gotta stop and think about it

If the context is we use voice chat for better coordination in raid I’m down

[sharp merlin]

but on the flipside, it can be super awkward when people share a discord, and they wipe and it goes super awkward and silent LOL

[solid sun]

If the context is forced participation in some other type shit, nah like why are you trying to control my time

[frosty mango]

These are the kind of people who are 40 and live in their parents basement and have not had any real social interaction in their lives

They treat every situation like a parent child relationship because that’s the only context they know

[sharp merlin]

Or the best are hearing couples have a domestic during a raid LOL

You know the husband tank is gonna beat his healer wife after

[frosty mango]

I call this the 50\100 rule

If you have a husband wife combo, there is a 50% chance only one of them uses 100% of their buttons

There’s no in between. It’s either one of them is terrible or they’re both great

[solid sun]

The rsham and our havoc are married

[sharp merlin]

LOL yes, true. It was so awkward when the yelling is so bad, you can hear the yelling person through the person who's being yelled at's mic

[frosty mango]

Which one do they fall into

[undone beacon]

Thats why you find the best healer or tank you can and marry them regardless of all other factors

"I'm a decent tank, you're a great healer, lets get hitched"

[frosty mango]

Like peanut butter and jelly baby

Let’s have babies so they can roll dps

Man what a pantry dropper

[solid sun]

I think they’re both mostly fine

I’ve told my wife before that I achieved some wow accomplishment

So we should celebrate

It never works

[frosty mango]

I tried to get my wife to play wow, she made it to level 10 and said “this is dumb” and then went back to crocheting final fantasy Ami gurumis

[undone beacon]

Literally everytime someone in a guild has a kid... "oh man you're playing the long game to get us a tank/healer/dps for raid aren't ya bud?"

[sharp merlin]

Try explaining to your partner who with every ounce of her being hates video games, what *'I need to get 3.4k rio before I drop it for the season" * means

[solid sun]

“I hit 3k tonight babe. You know what that means right?”

that you didn’t take out the trash yet?

[undone beacon]

My first real girlfirend in high school started dating me because I wore WoW tshirts... never have been able to get another partner to play with me since

[frosty mango]

My wife knows how details works and she knows when the brown bar is on top papa is pumping

[undone beacon]

Too bad she ended up being a lesbian... after four years of dating

[sharp merlin]

and then the dreaded "okay.. when is the next season?"

[frosty mango]

Is this a reflection on her or on you

[undone beacon]

Perhaps a bit of both

[sharp merlin]

That's the L in LGBTQ 😂

[solid sun]

It’s gotta be hard to date a bear tbh

Sleep for a huge part of the year

[frosty mango]

There’s a Reddit for that, I’m sure

[frosty mango]

Oh, wrong type of bear

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-exploding-gif-18403884229748594041

[solid sun]

“I’d like you to meet my family over the holidays this year”

Sorry babe that’s a busy time of year for me. I gotta sleep

[undone beacon]

Hey, at the end of the day we're still good friends, but she doesn't play anymore which is lame

Every once in a while we go to Magic the Gathering events together

Pretty baller

[solid sun]

Are you a green enjoyer

[undone beacon]

Red/Green all the way baby. Gruul my beloved

[solid sun]

I bet you’re a big landfall fan

[frosty mango]

My wife enjoys stuff like Zelda but she’s not a pc gamer, but she supports me in my pc gaming agenda

[undone beacon]

Would you believe me if told you that my favorite deck to play was my Goreclaw deck

Which is, as you can see, big bear

[frosty mango]

I think she might die if she went to a card shop lol

My kid is getting into RPGs and I got her on ff14 but I’m scared to get her on wow

People are a lil wild

[undone beacon]

Give her one button and turn off chat and life is good

Depending on her age, she can probably just coast enjoying the old world

I've played since Vanilla, I never got a character to max level until Cata lmfao

[solid sun]

This seems like the proper bear emissary creature tbh

[undone beacon]

(I was also three when the game came out so like)

[undone beacon]

Kudo is funny because everyone is bear, but Ayula is the archetypical Bear Tribal commander

[solid sun]

I wish you could have both out on the field together and win

But unfortunately blue, black, and red cards exist

[undone beacon]

I mean, you can run Ayula in a Kudo deck, and im sure some groups would let you rule 0 them together as a partner deck but

[solid sun]

Green just kinda sucks

[undone beacon]

To be blunt Bear tribal is not exactly a very good archetype to begin with lmao

[undone beacon]

Bro no way, get out of here

Green is GOATED

[solid sun]

Bro I’m sorry but it is the worst color of mtg

[frosty mango]

She’s a gifted 11 year old she wants to raid lol

[solid sun]

It’s my favorite but it is terrible

[undone beacon]

Fair enough

[frosty mango]

I thought she’d be terrible but she’s crushing final fantasy right now so I’m not so sure

[undone beacon]

I'm going to say that we will agree to disagree before the protection warrior discord channel gets overrun (ha like the green card) with mtg debating LMAO

I am a gruul diehard through and through

[frosty mango]

We have like 3 more weeks before the prot channel explodes with new people

[undone beacon]

These are peaceful times

We ready for that collectors bounty?

What are the odds its broken and either gives 100% drop chance or like, 0% drop chance

[frosty mango]

90% chance it’s broken

And we see 100%

“Oops they said 10% not 100%”

[undone beacon]

12 minutes into the new event, hoorah

[dusky canopy]

Gz

Surely drop rate is bugged and it’s really giving 50% or some shit

[frosty mango]

So

Word is the buff isnt active on N.A.

Players reporting not seeing it

[novel steeple]

in game now..can confirm no buff

[toxic pewter]

wat buff

[jagged pier]

increased mount and tmog from old raids buff

[toxic pewter]

oh

[frigid valley]

Bit sad that buff aint really worth anything for us who been playing a while, i have every rare item and mount except one from the entire list

[undone beacon]

Didn't realize theres a buff to go with it tbh

I just booked it to undermine to do the greedy goblin event asap

[jagged pier]

i dont have lots of the mounts cause i hate running old content all the time, this will make me run it a few times

[undone beacon]

30 mins, got every drop and enough shards to buy 2 sets

[ivory geyser]

Already here, just biding our time for now

[frosty mango]

Really bc I been farming thunderfury for 10 years

Worth a lot to me lol

[frigid valley]

my alt warrior got both bindings in 3 weeks xdd. idk i have 3 or 4 tf at this point

i only miss the red mount from guldan

[toxic pewter]

are you using a weak aura to know where the next spawn occurs

or know how it works

[undone beacon]

The portal spawns in all three cities each time

[toxic pewter]

oh

[frigid valley]

im more concerned what spec i should open vault as tomorrow 😒

[undone beacon]

And in undermine, theres a big ass map marker cuz its not on a set pattern

[toxic pewter]

where does the portal open in dorn

[frosty mango]

Event been out for 3 minutes yall already got weakauras

[dusky canopy]

You too aye! Stand strong brother I finally got mine like 5 or 6 weeks ago roughly

[undone beacon]

Near Duos event

[frosty mango]

This is why we can’t have nice things

But for real lemme get that wa

For a friend

[toxic pewter]

thanks

[undone beacon]

No WA needed, it spawns in all three places every half hour

[frosty mango]

I can’t tell time I need a weakaura to remind me

[undone beacon]

touche

[frosty mango]

Also if it could include a tomtom arrow that would be great thanks

[undone beacon]

she tom on my tom til i arrow

[frosty mango]

Odds are 100%

they didn’t even turn it on lol

Feature flags gottem

[undone beacon]

Bonus drop chance is cancelled, go home folks

[tribal wharf]

i briefly considered coming back for that event and nothing else

and then i saw there was no shield transmog for tenders

if they are nice model, i go out of way to get it

[mortal cypress]

Ty for beta testing as always NA

[undone beacon]

Apparently it’s on and working, just no buff visually

[frigid valley]

saw this on reddit

[jagged pier]

build today apprently just a reminder to not get your hopes up

[frigid valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408364223840649226/1331316603723317388/81arez.gif

[slender bison]

Just leveled a Brewmaster and currently doing M4s and while I need a PHD to accomplish what my warr can do with 2 buttons I gotta say it's fun as hell 👌

The interrupt kit sucks though

[novel steeple]

I enjoy the gameplay of brew as well.

[slender bison]

Like I really miss Shockwave and a 2nd ST kick to rotate around, and the haste, but the magic damage intake is so much chill

[slender bison]

Hopes about what? In current state pwarr (Thane go away) is great

Cringy orphan talent nodes, but damage and hps are there

But Chains + Owl Beam will beat everything until they change things

[delicate nebula]

at current ptr does revenge work more like a tool to get deep wound instead dealing damage? I feel like outside free revenge i dont even want to press this skill

[frosty mango]

Considering you have no other skills to press

Yes

It works the same

[warm plinth]

Nothing in 11.2 changes how we play.

Except for not pressing ravager

[delicate nebula]

i dont know if im playing suboptimal but i feel like i can just dump almost all rage into ignore pain and shield block and not worry about revenge

[jagged pier]

if your playing thane thats fine

if your playing colossus thats not fine

[slim dove]

zdps gameplay

[delicate nebula]

why is that

[jagged pier]

because colossus is built around u pressing revenge alot

amps up its damage alot

[slender bison]

Because Colossus build empowers Revenge. If you're not using it, you're basically griefing or the key is low enough that it doesnt matter

[delicate nebula]

i tested dozens of 12 eco(first pull) now with intentionally pressing a lot revenge and only press free revenge

my damage doesnt really change that much

revenge is only like 8-10percent constantly

[slender bison]

Oh, you're playing PTR. No idea. Show logs/damage profile else it's just zug-zug talk

Since you're PTR try an Execute build too. See how it goes

But spamming IP and SB will get handicap you a lot

[jagged pier]

i mean did u run the dungeon with the exact same group and do the exact some pulls in the exact same way every time?

cause thats the only way yu can really compare because theres too much variance otherwise

[delicate nebula]

i was soloing first pull testing survivability(which is insane right now),

[jagged pier]

[delicate nebula]

ya thats why I asked it in the first place, i feel like I have no nothing to press

[jagged pier]

but that has no relevance on how u normally play at all

[delicate nebula]

i will try something different i guess

[urban bane]

fewer revenges in AOE also means fewer demolishes

so sure if you dont like pressing demolish

[candid cove]

The bleed changes on ptr made my damage profile stupid. Like on packs rend was above and beyond my highest damage source.

[urban bane]

go off king

[slender bison]

Plot twist: Metzen likes warriors so they want PTR warr to use Whirlwind when nothing to spend to feel more warriory

[lofty warren]

Why so high if spell block is deleted?

[slender bison]

Seriously? you posted PTR tier lists? Really?

Were you forced by someone? You can tell us

[lofty warren]

The same guy put vdh best tank in season 2 ptr and he was right

[jagged pier]

Just let pepega be pepega

[slender bison]

"He was right"?

[frigid valley]

pepega is pretty known to be goofing in tank channels

[lofty warren]

Yea he said vdh is top tier for season 2 and he was super right. They weren't top in s1

That was ppal

[urban bane]

🪤

[slender bison]

Sounds like you're following a prophet

[jagged pier]

And im pretty sure he said warrior was top before s1

So hes obviously not correct all the time

[lofty warren]

It's not bait omg it's real. I'm just asking why it's so high when what I read meant made think it go down bc loss of sb

[jagged pier]

Because of the bleed healing thats whu

And its likely to get nerfed

[lofty warren]

Well ppal was poo poo until their buffs in 11.0.5

[jagged pier]

Nope

Go back

Both me and nome said it before before that, that prot ppal was the best

[lofty warren]

Pwar was top for a little while in s1 until ppal buffs if I recal

[jagged pier]

Thats what the community will tell you... but again i called it week one of the expansion

If prot pala can live which it was it was best and it took the top ppl a long time to notice it, they were already pulling ahead before the buffs

[hardy snow]

if you want to know why some youtuber put thumbnail with warrior being high, you should watch that video, he should explain why, cause youtubers dont do clickbait thumbnails, right?

[lofty warren]

Is the thing making pwar good now a talent or tier? It is a bug oe just tuned to do good

Wouldn't mind raining pwar like I did in first half of s1 until ppal went up

[jagged pier]

Also lets point out thats a tank make assumptions about all the specs in the game???

Im pretty sure h doesnt play any dps or healers

[lofty warren]

But the 1st boss in dawnbreaker is gonna hurt without spell blocks. It's when he shoots purple line at you and not avoidable

[hardy snow]

ok, I will tell you the truth why...
basically, my mom called Ion and told him they must make prot warrior good because she wants her son to be happy

[urban bane]

tell yoda that, this channel is not the video's comment section

[lofty warren]

Ohh yea I'm not even looking at the dpa on the tier list only tanks

[jagged pier]

I already said why we are considered strong

[slender bison]

I wish the meta slavery would stop

[lofty warren]

Let me look maybe missed

[jagged pier]

It wont stop ever because yt is a thing

And ppl think the top pushers kmow everything instead of jist having the time to push

[lofty warren]

"Because of the bleed healing thats whu" I think this is it

[slender bison]

Also if you ask 10 Prot warrs, curious of statistics if they understand why VDH is meta. No, it's not about spell block or 3M HPS on PTR

[jagged pier]

VdH is meta because add control, sigils and whatever there dumb defensive is that makes them unkillable

Its buff

[frosty mango]

Prot war being immortal on trash bc of bleed healing would be a large consideration in its power but meta is based around comp interaction and control

[jagged pier]

Cause the other 4 ppl benfit from it

[slender bison]

3% chaos brand Vs 5% Phys comp buff. What else?

[frosty mango]

Prot war would need to do tons of damage and be nigh unkillable to be meta for any real period of time, or control meta would need to shift with other classes

[lofty warren]

Why is wound healing so much higher now vs live?

[frosty mango]

Because of set bonus

[next axle]

Which belt power is best in raid?

[jagged pier]

Sim

[frosty mango]

Also because the scaling is based on no of targets fueled by violence is worth exactly bupkis on bosses

[lofty warren]

So if ur in a 15 dawnbreaker first boss and she about to blast you and you don't have spell block. What do you do?

[jagged pier]

Shield wall

[slender bison]

Yeah, Prot Paladins are nice on trash until they can't survive Dailcry 16. That HPS is cringe if you die to BigMomma lmao

We'll have the same fate

[nocturne spindle]

||play impentrable wall and get a shield wall every cycle||

i believe

[lofty warren]

Colassas or mt next season looking like?

[jagged pier]

I mean defenders ageis is more likey to do thag

[lofty warren]

I liked mt call me crazy

[nocturne spindle]

i just want imp wall to be good cause its fun

[jagged pier]

Then play it

[slender bison]

I think they deliberately make pwarr cringe in S3 so we can resub in Midnight when they announce banner bloodlust ⚔️

[lofty warren]

Ohh no sorry. I was asking what the correct one at least if ptr was going to go live now

[south zealot]

having lust just doesnt matter

especially when mage is good every season since bfa

[lofty warren]

I haven't even looked at the tier sets i bet i could figure it out

Ohh it's colassas that gets the good one

[deep steppe]

So we just killed Mug'zee last night, and the logs do be....something.

[nocturne spindle]

when ptr update so we can doom more

[frosty mango]

Lust for war would actually be very strong change

For phys meta

[dusky canopy]

Any second now

Our dooming awaits

[slender bison]

Yeah, it would remove resto/hunt and make room for more variety. Or don't wait on an enha for 20 mins

[dusky canopy]

brm rsham war rogue feral

Insane blasters

[delicate nebula]

i mean physical comp need shaman anyway right

[dusky canopy]

Their buff is big value ye

[lusty grotto]

That's right

[lusty grotto]

Where mm hunter

[undone beacon]

mm hunter cring we survival in this house

[dusky canopy]

Mm doesn’t buff me

Duhh

[lusty grotto]

Hunters mark

Rogue doesn't buff you

Checkmate brews mom

[undone beacon]

The fact that sentinel hero talents don’t apply hunters mark to a group is cringe

[dusky canopy]

“Hunters mark”

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-laughing-laugh-gif-13945267

[lusty grotto]

Are you excited for arms brew

[dusky canopy]

When does Hunter provide 3-5% Crit damage

Don’t worry I’ll wait

[lusty grotto]

I am

[undone beacon]

This really should be a thing

[dusky canopy]

Bro I play arms no matter what

Arms gang or die

[lusty grotto]

Yeye

But my brain will feel smoother without jugg tracking

I love me smooth brain

[dusky canopy]

Every time raid lead goes into DMs “yo we might need the fury add damage” I just reply with sure no problem I’ll keep playing arms

And he thumbs up me

[lusty grotto]

I do that too

In my dreams

[undone beacon]

That was me every time I was told I should go ranged on my hunter because our group was melee heavy

And I went “cool yeah” and played more survival

[frosty mango]

In the night
In my dreams
When I raid with you
And you talk to me like raiders do
any 90s bumpers

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

End of tier poll question:
do you plan on main swapping or would you be willing to swap if we need it
Response:
sure I’d happily main swap to arms warrior anytime just let me know

[lusty grotto]

Lol

[dusky canopy]

Hell yeah my guy, got a whole 80s 90s and early 2000s playlist full of hiphop/rap bangers

Other than that straight up metal everywhere else

[frosty mango]

Heavy d fan?

[dusky canopy]

Can’t say I recognize the name but might know a song

Lamb of god, pantera, slayer, architects, Polaris, etc etc

There’s a chick lead singer band I dig too but can’t think of the name off hand

I’m really bad with names

[nocturne spindle]

smh

jakey lied to us

[dusky canopy]

Motionless in white, Lorna shore, all that remains

All good stuff

[dusky canopy]

😱

[frosty mango]

https://youtu.be/NNEgUPKxk7A

[jagged pier]

I said apprently

[frosty mango]

Oh you’re a big metal head

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-rock-rock-and-roll-head-bang-rock-star-gif-15812025

Bro metal and arms warrior go hand in hand

[frosty mango]

Now my brewjj headcanon is you have long hair and a slayer tshirt and your ringtone is raining blood

[dusky canopy]

I usually where my hate breed “your doom awaits you” cut off T and I rock a high top fade

My poor in-laws harmless Christian folk

And then I walk in lmfao

@frosty mango bro I found it the band is “the anchor” song: rip and tear this chicks voice is wicked cool

[nocturne spindle]

yea but that sounds less dramatic and im only here for drama

[jagged pier]

fair

[frosty mango]

Our shitposting quality has dropped drastically

We need to get back on track

[dusky canopy]

Song: defiler, pretty cool too

Decent headbanger drop towards the end

@lusty grotto tell nimmom I said hello

[broken juniper]

Hi, i havent followed prot warrior that much since last expac, i saw in the PTR that they're removing spell block. Are they replacing it with anything or prot warrior will go back to having nothing against magic damage? (Except spell reflect)

[dusky canopy]

4% magic dr

Surely that’s equivalent

[broken juniper]

Ehboy

Ty for the reply haha

[dusky canopy]

No problem 😉

[frosty mango]

Spell block has been removed, the sky is falling. Commence dooming.

Yoda says prot war is s tier.

Choose your team

(That was sarcasm)

[jade hazel]

I’m seeing Lorna shore in September so hyped

[vale escarp]

Didn't Yodas tierlist not work out expect from DH being S cause it was even more broken in PTR?

[dusky canopy]

Hell yeah bro that’s sick! Have a blast!

[jade hazel]

I haven’t been to a concert in like 10 years lmao

[dusky canopy]

I had big gap between mine too

Hate breed in like 2014 iirc and then LoG/pantera tour in 2024

Drinks were insane dude

2014 like 3 bucks

2024 18 bucks!?

Like what!?!?

[solid sun]

I wish we could use shield wall against magic damage

Instead of >only< having spell reflect

That would be so neat

[jagged pier]

U can and should

[dusky canopy]

?

Am I crazy?

[jagged pier]

Use shield wall against magic damage

[solid sun]

Homie up there said we only have spell reflect

And Roid wants our shitposting back up to par

[dusky canopy]

Since when can you not use your 50% damage reduction button on any damage type?

[solid sun]

Yall are ruining this moment

[nocturne spindle]

i mean

[dusky canopy]

Ahh shit that flew past me

[nocturne spindle]

i think theyre helping it

shitposting is better with people reacting to it

[mortal cypress]

I use shield wall against everything....

• Damage? Check
• Magic Damage? Check
• DPS calling me bad? Check
• Mom shouting at me? Check

[dusky canopy]

Blizzard nerfs? Check

[solid sun]

Pretty sure mom is only hindered by Brew

Little steak dinner little music

[dusky canopy]

Nimmom*

Nimmom is the goat btw

[frosty mango]

there now none of us can be disappointed

only pleasantly surprised

[mortal cypress]

whats that from

[mighty valley]

reality

[frosty mango]

from me just making it in 5 minutes

[dusky canopy]

[frigid valley]

vdh top non meta meta confirmed since first on list

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto if you look really closely you’ll see that arms is ahead of fury in that tier list

See arms is best

The more you know

[solid sun]

My sources on the ground are telling me there are rumors that professional writer, Harrow, is writing a brief blog post about this newly discovered tier list

[frosty mango]

here i fixed it

if you look very closely there's one spec missing

[nocturne spindle]

put aug in s tier

[dusky canopy]

Delete that trash from the game

[frosty mango]

this mans got it

[dusky canopy]

(Sorry griff)

WHERE MUH PATCH NOTES

[nocturne spindle]

there was no updatte today right?

[solid sun]

New update

Tier list to match

[jagged pier]

build tomorrow i think

[solid sun]

(There’s no update)

[slender bison]

Where can I find the streamer tier list for PTR this week?

[nocturne spindle]

aug S tier

everyone else D tier

its just one big circle jerk of augs all raid

and then one gets uber buffed

[slender bison]

Chat is this real?

[cerulean tusk]

No, this is all VR and bots

[torn gulch]

they announced build tommorow

[jade hazel]

Link?!?

[lofty warren]

Ohh this looks interesting link pls to tier list

What is in tomorrow build

[mellow bridge]

where

[frigid valley]

ugh do i open vault for chance on best in slots for OS or do i open for chance on knuckles/tome

[lusty grotto]

why tf do you want knuckles

[frigid valley]

i want everything

[lusty grotto]

gross

[frigid valley]

not to use

just to have

[lusty grotto]

hoarder

rik sword best sword

[frigid valley]

ya, for some reason i dont have it yet haha, stuck with mugzee mace

[torn gulch]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dungeon-testing-24-june-1-july/578072/3

[dusky canopy]

The moose kind or?

[frigid valley]

im pretty decked but feels so ass having to put tank loot just for one trinket rather than getting os items

[lusty grotto]

i mean

you get everything as prot

except 2 handers

pace, hoc, kezan, all available to prot

best in slots, not of course

[mellow bridge]

sad

[lofty warren]

Will BIS m+ trinkets be obtainable for m+ only ppl via the dinar vendor next season?

[dusky canopy]

🔮

[lusty grotto]

no, they will be available by lottery ticket

you will have to request such a ticket from my dad, John Blizzard

can whisper me in NA

i can pull some strings

[frosty mango]

nice

[dusky canopy]

Nice

[lusty grotto]

nice

[lofty warren]

No for real

[dusky canopy]

|| 🖕 ||

[lofty warren]

Is it not known what can buy with s3 dinars?

[lusty grotto]

Yes for real

[dusky canopy]

No s3 dinar system announced

[lusty grotto]

you will be able to buy a removal of leaver status

whisper me so i ask my dad, John Blizzard

[dusky canopy]

2.99 usd

[lusty grotto]

close, but its actually 2.50 USD

[frigid valley]

have em all but kezan but dont care to much about it, also got goony and bombsuit, so everything but tome on myth but it seems to be a rather low diff on 671 and 684 on it according to sims

[dusky canopy]

Tariff tax though

[lusty grotto]

kezan better than garbage ass knuckles

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better

just buy the dumb graphic from the xmog vendor

[frigid valley]

u sure got locked on me saying knuckles eventho it was sarcasm 😄
its basically tome myth over a hc version, or Best in slots for os

[dusky canopy]

I’m buying knuckles

[lusty grotto]

thats fine, i dont have myth tome either

[frigid valley]

or well, not just best in slots, any myth track 2h would do x)

[lusty grotto]

oh

you dont have one

well then

shrug go for it

[jagged pier]

Well depends if the fight is longer than 5 mins

[frigid valley]

yeah. fucking alts keeps taking stix one, and havent seen gally drop once and others gets prio on best in

[dusky canopy]

Should go off spec > alts unless the alt is taking a main raid slot

[lusty grotto]

alts can smd