protection

[lusty grotto]

fucking wild

[lyric sorrel]

so do you just hold troar if you get a second one in the same pull?

[warm plinth]

I did a press W route in Motherlode and mage accused me of doing a 300% route. I was actually short at the end and had to pull an extra war machine

eyyy

[lusty grotto]

no

unless the mobs are about to die

[lyric sorrel]

i'm asking because if i send my cds again even if i get full value out of them, next pull i struggle a bit with aggro

people rip their cds right off the bat and there's just nothing i can do

[lusty grotto]

what ilvl is your weapon

and what key level

[lyric sorrel]

15s

[lusty grotto]

and your weapon?

[lyric sorrel]

crafted

681

[lusty grotto]

and do you run crackling?

because you should be

except for in Workshop

[lyric sorrel]

ye

i am

[lusty grotto]

well idk what to tell you, i dont have issues

are you sending avatar into the pull?

[lyric sorrel]

well if i have avatar of course

but im asking for when i dont

[lusty grotto]

or a wall for mini avatar at least?

its very unlikely that you will not have cds

[lyric sorrel]

well ye thats why im saying if i pop them the second time in the pull i dont have them for the next one

[lusty grotto]

pulls dont last 3 mins

[lyric sorrel]

exactly

so if i pop them the second time the pull is basically done as my cds are running out

or a couple seconds later

[lusty grotto]

i dont know i never think about it

i just send on cd

[warm plinth]

Same

[lusty grotto]

except when i mentioned

as in the mobs are about to die

[lyric sorrel]

ye i mean obviously you don't send cds if youre not getting full value out of them

[lusty grotto]

youre overthinking it

[lyric sorrel]

perhaps because i just got insanely bullied cause a ret paladin popped cds on pull and died

i didn't think too much about this up til now

[lusty grotto]

the only situation where you think of value are in damage amp situations

ret pallies are 50/50

if they send on a single pack they are the lower 50

as in, they are dumb as fuck

not only are they likely to die due to threat, they are losing dps

[lyric sorrel]

i mean when i play as a dps i usually hold everything for a couple seconds

[lusty grotto]

right

as you should

[lyric sorrel]

like build resources and shit dont send any higher dmg abilities

so it doesn';t make sense

that he's already dead 7 seconds into the pull

[left escarp]

can't stop zuggin

[lyric sorrel]

and the mobs are barely done coming in

[lusty grotto]

right, that's his fault

not yours

[near salmon]

Some dps players are just really that obsessed with routes. it baffles me.

[lusty grotto]

im obsessed with routes

as in

[lyric sorrel]

i dont have problems holding aggro, just the start of the pulls in these situations

[lusty grotto]

if youre doing this box shit in ML

youre wasting time expecting people to jump the shit instead of just killing the peacekeeper

[warm plinth]

Nim needs to pay for overtime therapy because of box skip in ML smh

Pugs ruin everything

[lusty grotto]

if youre expecting this warlock to portal into 1st boss on top of that, your route is absolute shit

should be deleted

[near salmon]

I had the worst time in season 1 dawnbreaker. There was always a anxious dps player each key tring to argue with me about being short 1% or over 1%

[lusty grotto]

ML has such a big timer

that you dont need all this skipping on vault keys

AT ALL

[near salmon]

lol

[cerulean tusk]

Nim, you are so wrong, have you seen the avg 10 group DPS?

1 million a pop

THEY NEED the skips

[warm plinth]

Yeah doing something risky makes perfect sense IF you need to do it to time the key. If you don't, you're adding risk and difficulty for no reason.

[lusty grotto]

i left this key btw

[cerulean tusk]

Toxic

Reported

Mods ban him

[lusty grotto]

cause we were 8 mins at the carts

do you know why

[near salmon]

ouch

[cerulean tusk]

Something tells me I will shortly

[lusty grotto]

CAUSE WE WAITED SO LONG FOR PEOPLE TO BOX SKIP AND FOR A LOCK TO PORTAL INTO 1ST BOSS

instead of just pressing W

[cerulean tusk]

Ye, but Nim, this is all on you

if you healed better

they would do better

[lusty grotto]

why the fuck is that shit standard in 10s

[lyric sorrel]

i've timed 10s on my 645 vdh with normal w routes and with others 650ish doing the same dps

so i have no clue why ppl would ever have a need to change routes

or do mdi type of stuff

[left escarp]

top down watering effect

[lyric sorrel]

when u have 1 trillion years to finish the key

[lusty grotto]

did they even do box skips in mdi? cause i swear i didnt see it, at all

[cerulean tusk]

Nim is wrong, we need the skips, or the 10s cant be completed

[lyric sorrel]

and mobs die instantly every pull

[cerulean tusk]

Dont let Nim shake your belief!

It is meta for a reason!!

[frosty mango]

I just go pull anyway

[lusty grotto]

funky im not in the mood

[frosty mango]

What are they gonna do when you’re tanking

[lusty grotto]

be nice to mouse

[solid sun]

I def do w routes

[cerulean tusk]

So we all agree to blame Nim, as all would be solved if he tanked?

W is for Win

[frosty mango]

I was helping a 11 key in priory and the hunter kept pinging for me to pull all four paladin packs. Why?

“That’s mdi Strat”

[lusty grotto]

im never touching prot paladin, sorry

[cerulean tusk]

4 paladins

[frosty mango]

You are doing 2m overall and have 1 kick bro this is definitely not the mdi

[cerulean tusk]

PuG

[lusty grotto]

plus i need this

[solid sun]

I told my squad if they’re expecting seal team 6 bullshit in Motherlode find a new tank

[lusty grotto]

its the only reason im healing 10s

[lyric sorrel]

the crazy thing is, if you want to have control over routes just tank

[cerulean tusk]

My fav part is somehow failing to time 10s. It is always such a mess, and I am just sitting here infront of my computer. Smileing. Enjoying the whole dramalama.

[lyric sorrel]

otherwise it's not your job

[cerulean tusk]

See, Bane gets it.

[lusty grotto]

thanks captain obvious

[lyric sorrel]

whoops

my bad

[cerulean tusk]

Dont pull back into your shell

stand up to the rat!

[lusty grotto]

its not like i perma tank on other classes and my warrior or anything

[solid sun]

It’s big gamer energy if you holy shock something while they’re trying to mdi strat though isn’t it

[lusty grotto]

which is why ML shitty routes are huge peeves

[lusty grotto]

ive never done that

[solid sun]

Loooooool

[cerulean tusk]

I just love dragging ppl around as a tank, having them kick and scream all the way to a +2/+3

[lusty grotto]

at least not this season lmao

[cerulean tusk]

They get so confused at the end

[solid sun]

I pull two peacekeepers in my ML route and don’t feel bad about it and so far it’s never been an issue

[lusty grotto]

ok thats just illegal

[frosty mango]

I link the route at the start of every key

If you dislike my route you are free to find either another key or another tank

[solid sun]

There’s one peacekeeper in the middle of the wall opening that I blast

[cerulean tusk]

I pull all of em, ya cant stop me

[solid sun]

And then there’s a peacekeeper blocking the entrance to the first boss that I blast

[lusty grotto]

i used to link the routes expansions ago, but people dont ever look at them anyway

so i pull a funky

[left escarp]

need that juicy spell reflect

[cerulean tusk]

Hell yeah!

[lusty grotto]

but also i dont do illegal pulls lol

[solid sun]

I don’t pull two peacekeepers at the same time gosh

I’m not evil

[lusty grotto]

ok ok

good clarification

[near salmon]

i like pulling first and 3rd peacekeepers. Skipping only the 2nd one that is on patrol.

[lusty grotto]

yeah

thats kind of the standard

well

[near salmon]

in low key they die so fast anyway

[lusty grotto]

i THOUGHT it was the standard

[frosty mango]

List of things that are dumb in 10 keys in no particular order
Wall jumps
Meld skips
Pulling trash into bosses
Anything that requires dps to taunt mobs
Going out of your way to Los things

[left escarp]

pull all 3, moar reflects

[lusty grotto]

until i saw this shit lmao

[solid sun]

It should be the standard

[lusty grotto]

yup

ok im up to my 4th ML now

lets hope for the best

[near salmon]

good luck

[lusty grotto]

i want to complete this before i log on Dune cause then its bye WoW until sunday or monday

aside from raid i guess

oh no

they picked a 1600 VDH

without any mains

welp

[frosty mango]

Lul

Just get someone here to tank it

[lusty grotto]

ok this guy has done

like 50 MLs only

LOL

[frosty mango]

Entire channel full of tanks this man is running with the azralonian special

[lusty grotto]

im gonna trust him

[fiery badge]

Apparently there’s a bunch of lag today
Is that effecting keys?

[jagged gust]

I dunno fam, taunt+spell reflecting last boss in NL was freaking awesome

[fiery badge]

People saying is a problem in instances PvP

[frosty mango]

Yeah I was saying earlier my key went sideways and I got lopped due to lag

[frosty mango]

Yeah until the tank doesnt taunt back

[jagged gust]

hmm, I've finally ran out of vault upgrades without losing embellishes

weird milestone to hit tbh

[lusty grotto]

surprisingly good tank

shit group but good tank

1 more

[outer willow]

This is wild. You’re full mythic?

[fiery badge]

Yeah I’m kinda staying away from keys tonight cause of that

[warm plinth]

@lusty grotto we back

[lusty grotto]

welcome back

[urban portal]

40/40/10/10

[lusty grotto]

oh boy

Booming Voice not needed ig

[frosty mango]

I’m there too

683.6

[frosty mango]

What is this abomination

[lusty grotto]

he was doing ok

until he ran IPA over 4 oozes

c:

but yeah idk why he wouldnt take BV

could have just swapped with indom

wasnt gonna ask either way lmao

hope its nobody in here

HEY

WHERE DID OUR RED GO

[warm plinth]

They changed the booster role color

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

LOL

[lusty grotto]

😮

[warm plinth]

They should give you guys the new holographic role color

[lusty grotto]

holographic red c:

[lusty grotto]

cant go fast if we're not red

[warm plinth]

you can do gradients too

so you could do like red gradient with the woyer color

[lusty grotto]

yaya gradient red would be nice

[warm plinth]

Or red with a different red idk

[lusty grotto]

yea that would be good

[lusty grotto]

TL enjoyer LOL

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

Ohhhh hold on

[lusty grotto]

its a 10 cinderbrew btw

[frosty mango]

I got a great one

[lusty grotto]

658 shield !

[mighty valley]

I’m more offended by not taking the shockwave talent

That’s like. Our coolest thing

[lusty grotto]

and broken

[mighty valley]

To take second wind??? Honed reflexes???

[lusty grotto]

kind of

LOL yea

[lusty grotto]

tbf i think hes farming crests, but idk why he would go weapon over shield first, no wonder hes scattering with mud/BSV/TL

[mighty valley]

maybe just clicked at random down the tree

[warm plinth]

just for the lulz, I simmed spear against thunderous words and it's actually only like a .6-.7% loss in both ST and AoE

[frosty mango]

Yea until you realize you can whiff spear

Spear requires perfect conditions, the just yolo life

[livid hound]

Hello first time WoW player just hit lvl 70 almost lvl 71 game is fun. Im a warrior and im looking for advice or links or builds to follow for best solo builds to work towards. I have looked on YouTube Google and build forms but they all seem to not be retail updated or anything I understand. Im starting to get flustered with how complicated it is to find builds for retail that explain it from scratch as im new I dont understand the lingo of the game just yet.

[frosty mango]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/overview-pve-tank

[warm plinth]

So are you wanting something that explains what each button does basically?

[frosty mango]

The guide is geared towards max level but it’s relatively high level - nothing until max level will really be relevant as hero talents alter gameplay

But the general flow of the class is outlined pretty clearly in the wowhead guide

If you have specific questions we can answer them

The concept of a “leveling guide” doesn’t really exist in wow because leveling is extremely fast

[warm plinth]

I'm pretty sure both wowhead and icy-veins have spec-specific leveling guides

icy-veins you can even set it to the specific level you're at

[lusty grotto]

the wowhead guide has a delve build thats as close as solo build you can get

but aside from select content (delves, visions, dastardly duo, world events).. we dont optimize for those

since end game isnt really a solo game

[livid hound]

But this is something I can use for a solo build to do things alone?

[lusty grotto]

read 3 lines above

[frosty mango]

Yes - ish. It will not strictly apply until max level but the important bit is to read the guide to help get an understanding of skill interactions

Once you do that it will be a little more intuitive which skills do what and when to press them

[livid hound]

No no just looking for build help to teach me about it not just say slap these skills on and you will be good

Also thank.you

[frosty mango]

That doesn’t really exist for warriors

You’re looking for like an in depth mechanical play breakdown? Most guides will assume you’re familiar with the basics

[livid hound]

I was going to do a pali but my lord do they get talked down on haha so I chose the hard route

[lusty grotto]

eh

wdym

getting talked down shouldn't stop you from playing what you enjoy

its just talk

it means nothing

that being said fuck prot paladins

c:

[livid hound]

I was reading b4 I started playing that picking a paladin proc is a cheese to the game and I should choose warrior because I'll learn more 😅

[lusty grotto]

huh

a cheese?

there's no such thing

[livid hound]

Idk what I enjoy I have maybe 25-35 hours in the game so far

[lusty grotto]

the cheese thing is weirdge

anyway this is as close to a solo build you're gonna get https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/talent-builds-pve-tank#delve-talent-build

if you need explanations

you can ask here

[solid sun]

What’s the hard route

Being a warrior?

[lusty grotto]

but the gist of it is, warrior revolves around spending rage, if youre spending rage while not starving and not capping rage, youre doing good (see: Anger Management and Violent Outburst talents)

yeah he kinda got his info wrong on that regard

[frosty mango]

Lots of people talk a lot of pointless shit - but every class is viable up until the very top levels (and if you ever get there you’ll be able to handle that decision making) so tldr play what you enjoy

Doubly so as a new player

[lusty grotto]

agreed

[solid sun]

Maybe even triply so

[frosty mango]

QuadruPALLY so

[livid hound]

Okay any advice on what would be the best class to play Solo best? Your opinion? I plan to keep going until my warrior is 80

[lusty grotto]

if you wanna know about talents, pick that build i linked and ask about specifics to the talents

[frosty mango]

Every class will solo at give or take the same level

[lusty grotto]

there's no best solo class

solo content is usually not hard so every class is viable

like what Roidberg is saying

if you want really good info for new players try the one discord

i forget the name

WoW made easy? or something like that

[livid hound]

Okay thank you =] I'll look at the two builds and see what i can learn from them

[frosty mango]

Every class has a class discord to help with questions and while they’re definitely not as cool as the prot war channel (because we’re the coolest)

They are generally helpful

No one will shame you for asking questions

[solid sun]

We are also the most helpful

[frosty mango]

True and real

[solid sun]

And the funniest

[frosty mango]

We’re basically just the best

[solid sun]

And the best cooks

[lusty grotto]

http://discord.gg/wowmadeeasy these guys are insanely helpful for new players, might clear things up that aren't warrior specific

try asking there for general WoW stuff and if you feel like asking warrior questions, we'll be here to help

[solid sun]

But you can also ask us questions that don’t seem related to warrior but still are

Like the best smoked meat for Father’s Day

Or is it nimchip’s fault

[lusty grotto]

its always my fault

[solid sun]

Or one of my personal favorites, if Griff is around, what’s Tettles right about this time?

[frosty mango]

Oh man the griff-tettles saga was so good

[mighty valley]

I wonder if the "warrior hard mode, paladin cheesy" stuff was people talking about vanilla

[tribal wharf]

name something paladins cant, warrior can do, hard mode cant say healing

[frosty mango]

Paladins can’t zug

[tribal wharf]

direct charge only thing comes to mind

[frosty mango]

They also can’t leap

Or maintain 100% block

Or reflect spells

Or block spells?

[lusty grotto]

move

[tribal wharf]

well they get to passively block dot spells, giga reduce there

[lusty grotto]

imagine staying in consecration like an idiot

[tribal wharf]

and bubble, and like 90% of things warrior can

virgin reflector vs chad rng spellblocker

[lusty grotto]

gross

[frosty mango]

Yes but you are missing the fundamental difference

[tribal wharf]

capt america

healing

[lusty grotto]

virgin rng blocker vs chad 100% blocks

F tier tank

[tribal wharf]

im shocked how bad the new doom game is

and i really wanted to enjoy it

not enjoyable

its almost as bad as how dragon flight did dragons wrong

[lusty grotto]

ill take your word for it yogi

[tribal wharf]

dragon on the box, expansion all about dragon and the dragon part sucks dick

how

[tribal wharf]

im still mad about it

[frosty mango]

Paladins bad tier list says so

Discussion over

[mighty valley]

aoe knockup

battle shout

[frosty mango]

(Tier list is sarcasm it’s not real don’t base your play decisions on that)

[tribal wharf]

dragons are supposed to be uhhhh giant flying lizards with razor sharp talons that tear enemy to literal shreds and breathe fire eat like hippogrypths whole probably

[lusty grotto]

alright i give up for today its dune time

[tribal wharf]

they should have brought deathwing back

[frosty mango]

For the third time?

[solid sun]

If they keep bringing deathwing back something might happen as often as Yogi having terrible takes

[warm plinth]

I bought everything. What do

[jagged gust]

Hit a dab then start planking

[heavy sparrow]

This Guy guys

[heavy sparrow]

Mods pin pls

[pallid quiver]

gib me

or i report

[frosty mango]

how does this happen

late night lower keys are scary

im reasonably sure you could just spam 1 aoe skill at 670 and do more than 1.9m dps

I even tried to help but was yelled at 😦

[near salmon]

no Roid. I think you are the problem here lol

you do too much dps

kek

[frosty mango]

negative

un nerf revenge plz

[near salmon]

but seriously. 3 million overall is very impressive. what key was this?

[frosty mango]

priory thats not too much

[near salmon]

I do 2.2 there. I suck

[solid sun]

Don’t listen to Roid on this one

Roid is actually a turbo gamer and has no real perspective of what the rest of us are doing

He says things like it’s common knowledge and then finds out loads of us didn’t know whatever the thing was

So you don’t suck. You’re just a mortal

[near salmon]

thanks Rhino.

[coarse latch]

What key level is this?

[frosty mango]

a 10

that was the next one

better players I dont have to blur them out lol

[coarse latch]

That is awesome DPS - you specifically

[frosty mango]

im tryin to crack 4m but im not sure I can yet

[coarse latch]

That is kind of sad

[frosty mango]

not without some real ballers lol

[coarse latch]

Even the rsham damage is low and so sad they have so much cc

Wasted

[frosty mango]

hes my buddy hes like 635 lol

thats why were runnin

[coarse latch]

I believe in you

[frosty mango]

im also probably way more geared than most people?

damage takes off at lower key levels when youre super geared because you can basically ignore defensive rage use and just full send revenge

[frosty mango]

2.2m is still far higher than like 99% of people tanking any key

pretty sure the priest was also PIing me, lol

[frosty mango]

whats unironically scary is I do that and then you find out people like yoda and probably sense are out there ripping off 5m damage or something

the gap between the 99 percent and the 100 percent is crazy

[solid sun]

It's true

How long does MD last roid

I know you play hunter too

[frosty mango]

30 buff, 8s once you attack

you get 30s to actually start attacking and once you do the threat transfer window is 8 seconds

[solid sun]

Gotcha

[frosty mango]

that priory for me was r23 for all priory 10 keys and then you have this dude

who is doing literally 1.5m more

some true giga gamers out there

[solid sun]

I think you still classify as a giga gamer

[frosty mango]

no shot

im an upper middle class gamer

I could maybe ascend to the ranks of like, budget streamer gamer

if I tried

[solid sun]

Well you do more damage than me

And I'm probably upper middle class

[frosty mango]

thats ok you probably do mechanics

[solid sun]

Well I guess it depends

Like if we're talking gamers in general then yeah we probs kinda blow a little bit

But if we're talking about wow gamers?

You rich af dude

[frosty mango]

I was giga gamer in like mop

[solid sun]

Isn't it typically like only 1/3 or so of the community even snags aotc?

[frosty mango]

im not sure thats a good qualifier lol. I think its probably fair to say that almost anyone could get to the level of play that I get to with a little thought and some goalsetting

I dont think most people are getting to like yoda tier without a signifigant time investment and a lot of networking

I'm doing like 16/17 keys and half of a mythic raid tier (though im goin back to ce raiding next month) with moderately decent parses

definitely not giga gamer

[solid sun]

Disagreege

[coarse latch]

What percentage of people do 16+ keys?

[solid sun]

I think if you are doing 16/17 keys you're a giga gamer

Within the context of WoW

[ionic fern]

You definitely are a giga gamer if you are doing 16/17.

[frosty mango]

Mwahi got a fancy rainbow name so he definitely speaks the truth

[round cliff]

the social disparity grows larger

[ionic fern]

Wha

Where did this come from

Wtf

Top 1 percent is 3.4k.

And that's like most 16/17

[frosty mango]

see im not a giga gamer I dont have all my 16s

[ionic fern]

True,then you're in the top 2 percentage.

Useless.

[frosty mango]

hopefully by the end of next week, then I will be a giga gamer

see, goals

[solid sun]

Mwahi and I have come together to dub thee giga gamer

There's no takebacksies

I'm choosing to ignore the part where he referred to you as useless

[frosty mango]

thats ok I'm confident

im a junior giga gamer, on my 90 day probationary period

[solid sun]

See, I got KSM week 1. This means I was a giga gamer for about 10 hours

But then I let it slip

[frosty mango]

once a giga gamer always a giga gamer

[mighty valley]

that’s the top 1% of people who have any mythic+ score

which not all wow players have any of lol

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[lusty grotto]

😮

mwahi has nice colors

where gradient red

[jagged gust]

bottom 50% of the top 2%, absolute shame

[ionic fern]

I don't actually like it. 😦

I prefer solid colors.

[ionic fern]

Jeah,pointless,just quit imo

If you're not in the top 0.0001 percent, why even play,right.

[jagged gust]

Do some keys other posers have already run? Not for me tyvm

Also big fan of the rainbow name, makes me think of those rocket popsicles

[patent scroll]

Looks like I've become big arms man now

maybe opened in the wrong spec

[lusty grotto]

i would be stoked

[round cliff]

i miss being a dps brain

cant wait to not have responsibility anymore

melee dps i do no mechanics just zug boss 🙏

[jagged gust]

Be me

swap to fury

enjoy zug zug

become RL

???

[hearty kettle]

@woven scroll mate pm

[lusty grotto]

what

[wooden dove]

i have 681 crafted shield and heroic tier gloves, which one would you get? 684 ilvl shield or mythic track tier gloves with catalyst?

[woven scroll]

hands. cuz of ilvl increase.

[lusty grotto]

shield

cause shield ilvl > all

and myth shield is better than crafted

[woven scroll]

ye, but only 3 ilvl. and i guess suboptimal sec. stats in this.

[lusty grotto]

negative

[woven scroll]

at least, sim it?

[lusty grotto]

shield ilvl > all

you cant sim block

[wooden dove]

im leaning more on the gloves, since i still need 3 tier slots in mythic track, and i am unlucky so that might take a lot of weeks, might not even complete it in this season

[ionic nimbus]

If u dont have mythic shield, always shield

[woven scroll]

ye true. but, on which point in actually content, does this matter?

[lusty grotto]

always shield

yes it does

[woven scroll]

def or offensive wise?

[lusty grotto]

brother

block has no offensive value

why are people asking for your pms

when you have no idea what youre talking about and you just joined on feb 2025

[woven scroll]

so, whats the point? how you will die in any content?

[lusty grotto]

the point is, he wont need a shield

after that

[woven scroll]

oh, nice offense.. ty

[lusty grotto]

???

[woven scroll]

my point is. if youre not gonna die in any content, dps is always the better option.

[lusty grotto]

no, its not, shield is our bread and butter

youre 100% wrong

this isnt about defensive trinkets

its about directly improving the core gameplay

which is blocking

besides how many gloves can you get in the pool

vs how many shields

you're never NOT gonna shield block

[woven scroll]

depends on content you play.. if youre raiding, you have good option from rik.

[lusty grotto]

no, it doesnt depend

not in this context

his vault has no myth raid slots

[woven scroll]

na, chance on loot

[sweet summit]

if you have to ask then shield is the better choice imo

[lusty grotto]

unless its a myth HoC, pacemaker, tome, kezan, or jastor... unless its any of those at a myth level and only if myth level, you always go with a myth shield

other slots need not apply

[wooden dove]

gloves will be a 26 ilvl increase from 658, shield will be 3 ilvl increase from 681, i can technically upgrade current gloves to 671 of course, but im not a m+ spammer, so crests are not in abundance

[woven scroll]

sorry.. i dont get it.. if im not struggling on def in any case, imo more dps is better option to do content faster. m+/raid.

[lusty grotto]

gloves are the least stat slot in our tier

[wooden dove]

getting a mythic track shield on future vaults has a lower chance of happening than getting a mythic track gloves, and that is why youre saying shield i guess

[lusty grotto]

more block value is invaluable

no thats not why im saying shield

but its a point i did mention

[lusty grotto]

also this is a huge assumption, never did he say such a thing

dont do that

[wooden dove]

i usually dont die in any content i do (hardest of them are mostly +10s, which are pretty tame)

[lusty grotto]

right

but a myth shield means you would be ready for anything higher than

cause there isnt really anything better than

having a myth shield and buying a myth tome means you dont even have to open vaults as prot anymore

you can go fury, since you can get 1 handers with it

i guess the assumption was right

🤷‍♂️

shield is still the better pick

[wooden dove]

yeah, i also dont see myself completing all +12s anytime soon, so mythic tome will not be buyable, only from vault if im lucky

still cant decide 😄 thank you for your inputs ❤️ will postpone the decision to a later day i think

[lusty grotto]

of course

[woven scroll]

😂 that was not my goal. sry for that.

its a nice general discussion.
yeah, seems the point on less chances hit you, if youre not myth raiding. so, a myth shield would be rather than some gloves > catalyst.
also i agree on: its better defensive value.
but as ive done myth clear and all m+ on 13, which is more than i wanted to, for my own i rly dont ned more defensive and its much more enjoyable to see higher dmg stats or have less cd's with more hast, than blocking some more dmg in medium content like farming 10/12 m+ keys.

thats my thoughts about the pick.

to go for BiS, ye, shield would be better choice, simply cuz of loot chance.

[lusty grotto]

its really not a discussion

we recommend myth shield over anything except what i mentioned earlier in here all the time

like i said: youre never in a situation where youre not blocking

and the only item that increases block value is a shield

well, i suppose there is one situation where youre not blocking: when youre not playing correctly by not keeping SB up

[woven scroll]

value. youre anyway to 100% chance i guess, on sb?

[lusty grotto]

value is not chance

[woven scroll]

ye, but you said chance.

[lusty grotto]

oh right

[woven scroll]

and you have 100% with sb

kk

[lusty grotto]

its late for me, im NA

[woven scroll]

ahhh..

early to me 😅 just on my 2nd coffee..

[sharp merlin]

Finally, Myth Mud 😄

[lusty grotto]

i would have socketed instead

if you're not memeing that is

which i hope you are

[jagged pier]

muds good if your pushing keys

its good for priory and flood

[lusty grotto]

yes

for a whole 2 dungeons

[sharp merlin]

R-r-rik Reverb here 😄 is it me or the auto attacks got Magic?

[lusty grotto]

physical

but not blockable

[sharp merlin]

oh shit

No wonder I was sweating

[lusty grotto]

weird i didnt actually feel it

except for when the swap was late

[sharp merlin]

Did you wall?

[lusty grotto]

no

[sharp merlin]

You just use IP?

[lusty grotto]

probably, but not any differently than other times

[sharp merlin]

makes sense

yeah it was prob cause the swap was late

but holy damn 😄 he stings

[lusty grotto]

yeah it starts to hurt there

[sharp merlin]

but yeah I got the Mud for when I do Flood/PSF on 15s

[lusty grotto]

swaps with liquid WAs are on point though

[sharp merlin]

I'm 4 from Resi 14's and then I'll move to 15s

and then hang it up for the season

[lusty grotto]

dont think you need mud for prio 15

probably 17+

and a hero track one is good enough

[sharp merlin]

you say that, but healer's struggle

[lusty grotto]

you want the cdr, the absorb amount difference is not that big

uhh you have bad healers i guess

[sharp merlin]

I'm just noticing in my 14 runs

dps just die too much lol

and I'm not sure if it's a healer issue

[lusty grotto]

ok well that makes sense

[sharp merlin]

or just dps are not hitting their defensives

or standing in shit

Even if the healer dies, I'm finding it quite rare to die, I think the number 1 cause of me dying is someone ripping aggro when gathering and I panic and try get aggro back and get slapped in the back

[lusty grotto]

yeah that kinda throws you for a loop

[solid sun]

That sounds like you just described not needing mud lol

[woven scroll]

another question to block value: i'm missing the value on actual shields. is there any indicator to compare 2 shields?
and the formula (20str=1 bv) also up to date?

[lusty grotto]

thats not accurate

[sharp merlin]

I don't - but I do like an emergency button

just incase I blow my walls too quickly

[lusty grotto]

you're gonna need K values

i think we calculated them a bit ago, they change every season

[solid sun]

I just thought it was funny that on the heels of revealing you picked myth mud, you then kinda argued against taking mud. Just a silly thing; I'm a big proponent of if you feel safer taking the defensive trinket and it helps you play better it had value

[lusty grotto]

20 strength is NOT equal to 1 BV

[solid sun]

But that's more feelycraft than anything else

[lusty grotto]

hasnt been for expansions

there's no relationship between strength and block value

probably since cataclysm

[sharp merlin]

Well I picked it cause I don't need anything else from Dinars 😄 I don't Myth Raid sadly, and I think if I did, I would burn out ahah

[solid sun]

Why am I compiling shaders everytime I fire up dune

Will this ever end

[lusty grotto]

not really

every update they make you will have to

[sharp merlin]

I actually love having an extra defensive on the 'incase' shit happens, it's lovely 😄 but I guess if I wanted to squeeze out more dmg, I should just take Tome / Seaforium

[lusty grotto]

same as monster hunter etc

also the argument isnt against mud

its against picking OR buying a myth one

which is a waste

cause ultimately you just want the cdr

like i mentioned

its a dinar that could have gone to something more impactful

and/or a vault pick

its fine if you dont need anything else though, including sockets, i guess

[sharp merlin]

But not sure what hero track item from Dinars would help tbh

[lusty grotto]

bomb

suit

[sharp merlin]

I did get Myth ring in my vault, which I was super happy about

ah, I already have it 😄

[lusty grotto]

well then i guess youre fine

you only have so many options if you dont raid

myth pace, myth tome if you dont have them and hero HoC/bomb suit

[solid sun]

Yeh, I feel like for most of us non-mythic raiders that do keys we mostly have everything we need at this point in the season

[lusty grotto]

yeah in that case its a good pick

[sharp merlin]

yup 😦 sadly, I was in a 14 Theatre yesterday where the healer was 3.4k or something and he posted in the chat how much avoidable dmg the dps took, I was like OHHHH SHIIIIIT he calling you out 😂

[lusty grotto]

are you sure that wasnt just... elitist helper

that dogshit addon

[sharp merlin]

no clue

[lusty grotto]

im gonna go ahead and bet that it was

[solid sun]

My favorite version of the elitist helper user is the one where they hide their own damage taken

[sharp merlin]

oh never heard of it before, interesting

[lusty grotto]

for a second i thought you were about to say the one where they dont turn off the chat spam

[sharp merlin]

but yeah, we would have easily timed it, if not for the 15 deaths, 9 were all a mage

[lusty grotto]

kinda surprised you havent seen it before, are you new to keys or something?

anyway its fucking terrible

[sharp merlin]

I thought it was through details or something

[lusty grotto]

was it posted after the key was done

[sharp merlin]

Nope, during

[lusty grotto]

ok then it was details

and you're right lol

elitist helper auto posts after the key is completed

or i think when someone leaves

[sharp merlin]

ahh

[solid sun]

Doesn't it do both

Or can do both

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats what i mean

anyway that addon is garbage and people using it should be muted

details is fine though c:

[sharp merlin]

anyway I laughed, the dps were just being a bit lazy, but I almost +2'd the 14ML before, didn't realise one of the dps was playing for Method, completely obliterated packs

[lusty grotto]

nice

ive been in a few keys with liquid players

they def fuck up the meters

[sharp merlin]

they just play the game differently to us mortals

[lusty grotto]

haha 100%

[solid sun]

The dune layer my friends are on is locked

I was kinda hoping I’d get lucky in the wee hours of the morning

I suppose it was just a naive hope

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats the problem with this deluxe edition early access bullshit

i managed to get in to my friends' with my brother earlier today

honestly as long as youre on the same server, youre good

sietches are whatever

[solid sun]

Yeah. A construction worker messed up a line and 2k of us were without internet for over 24 hours. By the time we got back online it was too late for me

[lusty grotto]

can you get on their world but on a different sietch?

you can play with them if so

which world is it

we're on auriga

[solid sun]

Fury

And yes I can

[lusty grotto]

yeah just do that

they can invite you to the guild if youre in the world

plus the end game areas are shared with sietch/shards

anyway i gotta

[unborn island]

What did they do on overall?

[sharp merlin]

The Method guy did over 4.2-> 4.5m I think, he was gapping HARD

but never lost aggro

[ionic nimbus]

Totally depends on pullpattern and dungeon.

But 4.5 is not that big in a ML

[sharp merlin]

nearest was 3.2 so, it was a gap

[ionic nimbus]

3.2 overall in ML is pretty bad

[sharp merlin]

I know

[cerulean olive]

Hello good bombsuit enjoyer friends, should i just buy ringing ritual mud with puzzling chips. Cant decide

[jagged pier]

what key lvls are u doing?

[gloomy karma]

I have the same question, can get a second chip item. Already have the pacemaker. Should i get bomb suit, ritual mud or house of cards? Doing 15/16 keys

[cerulean olive]

18's

Got hero bombsuit but debating whether i just get the mud. Ilvl upgrade

[jagged pier]

well ecen at myth mub will only be better in priory and flood gate

but it still worth to have at those lvls

but u are obviously still doing m+ so u can just get it from vault

[cerulean olive]

Theres really nothing else to get though, almost decked out. Raiding doesnt interest me so im stuck with shit trinkets 😦

mmm

[copper vessel]

hey guys, I wonder something, my neck is veteran 8/8 645, my feet is champ 8/8 658. I can craft an item to 681, shall I go for neck or feet?

I know feet is giving better stamina but neck upgrade will boost my ilvl like hell

[warm plinth]

What about your shield/weapon?

[copper vessel]

they are both hero 8/8 and shield is titan of industry

[round pendant]

craft shield

[warm plinth]

You want your shield/weapon to be maxed as soon as possible. ilevel is all that matters for each of them

But if you're intent on deciding between the two slots you already listed, I personally would go for the necklace as it's the largest ilevel bump.

[copper vessel]

thank you for answers, I'll consider shield and necklace then!

stats are haste/versa right?

[warm plinth]

Haste/crit is what we recommend, but haste/vers is fine

[copper vessel]

got it thanks!

[slender bison]

Who said Rookery was free this season? Those void crushers/succ big guys are absolute giga killers with the healing reduction and shadow damage lmao

Seems Mud is bis for non raiders after all

[round pendant]

Rookery is pretty free

just the big guys in the hallway between first and second boss are

actually the most awful feeling part of any dungeon this entire season

[sharp merlin]

Rookery isn’t free, cause people still don’t know how to do Pillars on the last boss

Yes even at 14/15 dps still somehow manage to mess it up and suddenly I’m tanking 2 adds lmao

[magic sail]

I didn’t know this! Ty.
I just got a hero wep, I’ll spam upgraded it.

I also didn’t know you could craft a shield

[tribal wharf]

3rd time? far as i know DW come back in titular expansion

anndddd thats it

old rts wc doesnt count only counting "the monster had MAJOR PIVITOL role" in the rts games

far as im aware, deathwing is mentioned in passing only during wc2 (in a manual or book even), or there is like 1 or 2 missions you get to see/fight/command him

gpt say, he doesn't really exist or is spoken of till wc3 :S

[warm plinth]

He's a playable character during a horde campaign mission in Warcraft 2 and as an enemy in the alliance campaign

[gentle ore]

Hmm.
Crafted neck vs myth track flickering glowtorc... (crit/Versa neck)
Rest is garbo, could use a socket if you can socket next week delve belt

[jolly bough]

Is house of cards undervalued in sims? I have a heroic cards and heroic suspicious energy drink but the energy drink sims a fair bit higher.

[small steeple]

Don’t think it is. Energy drink is just very strong and has a larger stat budget than most other trinkets

[frail talon]

hey guys whats the best enchant for main weapon for m+ im guessing radiant power

[outer willow]

Man idk. That first pull of priory has me sweating hardcore. Sometimes my camera will make it first person and all I see is violence.

[round pendant]

first pull priory is fun

[rough egret]

Lol 😄

[chilly brook]

Rookery is free until higher keys because the timer is tight

[solid sun]

Depends

I’ve seen a lot of party members die in the section between the first and second bosses

[chilly brook]

Not really an issue until higher keys tho

[solid sun]

I don’t think it’s one of the harder dungeons until the last boss starts burning through your timer but free might be a bit strong

[spice iron]

What am I missing with Spell Reflect and Inquisitor Gnshal in Horrific Visions? Neither him, nor Rexxar's traps seem to be affected at all by it, and both of them have killed me when I've tried it

[rough egret]

In Flood dungeon, on the swamp boss, should I eat the frontal cone with spell reflect? Does it return dmg to boss?

[round cliff]

there's a frontal cone?

[torn gulch]

he's talking about mudslide

[rough egret]

Yes that

[torn gulch]

and it's a deflect

not a reflect

[rough egret]

I just checked the sheet, alright

I was confused because my WA is telling me to use reflect, but I was afraid to go in it and try 😄

[nocturne spindle]

you yoink your friend in and murder them

[raven light]

these are my stats with double crit embelishment, should I recraft crit into versa? for m+ pushing

[cerulean tusk]

[wooden dove]

lol

🔨

[frosty mango]

Sounds like a them problem

💪

[jolly tundra]

Hi is heroic jastor good for keys? (dinar)

[round cliff]

better things to buy

read pins

[undone beacon]

Neither can be reflected. Avoid Rexxar traps and reflect the boar cast if you need. On Gnshal, hide behind the stump to los the torrent

[round cliff]

imagine being named gnshal

[frosty mango]

Can think of worse names tbh

[round pendant]

How do I find 3 other likeminded players to play with

I'm dooming

[round cliff]

ask

[tender pond]

Tanking key > priest doesn't mass dispel enemy buffs > I ask for mass dispel on enemies cuz of buff > priest mind soothes targets

classic pug gameplay

[coarse latch]

to get the mask of multitudes do you have to only wear 1 mask or is it ok to wear 2+

[elfin geode]

is zee's thug hotline simbait? its simming better than pacemaker, at the same ilvl and mechano-core amp(671 ilvl ofc) (5 minute patchwerk sim)

like 3-6% of prot warriors are using it on most bosses

on an 8 minute patchwerk sim only eye of kezan beats it (apart from tome, using that as 2nd trinket)

[sharp merlin]

Ahh I feel you but it’s late in the season, the good ones are gone :((

I got invited to a “team” but they were trying to do all 10s and I was a bit like.. I haven’t seen an affix in 2 months 😂

[round pendant]

as long as they had a good mindset I'd play with those guys

game's ez just practice ya know

[sharp merlin]

Exactly I’m actually considering gearing my bear and then getting them to 3k

Honestly believe you can actually teach people in this game if they have the right mindset

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-anything-ken-jeong-ben-chang-its-so-tiny-cant-see-gif-4279507211752143591

[sharp merlin]

they should just remove threat imo, but people will burn my toes if I say that 😂

[cerulean tusk]

Threat is kinda necessary, to avoid degen gameplay, but - this wont fix the main issue of threat

That is: You cant hit things for enough

[timber aurora]

Or just buff it up higher and reduce overall threat generation from dps and healers.

[cerulean tusk]

I am sure this going to solve the issue when DPS rip threat with 30m DPS while tanks do 5m

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-25646701

[magic sail]

Yoooo

Threat buff of 16.5% is crazy

[magic sail]

Don’t you just click taunt and gg

Not talking about pulling 30 into a pack on +24 keys

[cerulean tusk]

If only my taunt was AoE all of the time

[undone beacon]

DO IT BEAR IS GOATED

[magic sail]

Thunder clap BB the +16% gonna be a game CHANGER

[undone beacon]

Thunder clap does like, wet noodle damage though

[cerulean tusk]

Ye, but - now it is 16.5% more efficent at holding that threat

[jagged gust]

I mean technically the tank is still generating more threat than the DPS in that scenario

And that's before the buffs

[cerulean tusk]

Yes and no, problem is how the DPS is distributed, if it was 1:1 then sure

[jagged gust]

Yeah target caps are the true villain

[magic sail]

Bumping it to 10 wouldn’t hurt, right?

[cerulean tusk]

problem is always if a tank can do 1m DPS and that equals 100m DPS, then the tank can spend all CDs, build up threat. Then kite. That becomes the degen way to play.

Will it happen? Well, only if tanks cant survive content and tank DPS got low value.

[mild river]

hello guys

[warm plinth]

Target cap isnt why threat is a problem. Burst damage is what causes threat issues

[mild river]

I usually play with a DK UNHOLY friend of mine and his pet keeps dying during keys. He says it's my fault cause i don't generate much aggro. Is that a thing?

[warm plinth]

No... lol

[magic sail]

Sounds like a dps problem, can’t hold off for 3 seconds

[cerulean tusk]

Sounds like a classic pet dying from RoT dam

[mild river]

It's interesting bc i don't lose aggro to any player but to his pet? wtf

[warm plinth]

You'd lose aggro to the dk long before his pet

[magic sail]

He’s trolling

[mild river]

what does RoT mean?

[cerulean tusk]

Thing random damage events of a smaller scale chipping it down

[warm plinth]

It's not always on pull. Some specs can rip 30 seconds in

[cerulean tusk]

Random shots, random dots, random pulses of damage, random cleaves

so on

[mild river]

ok thanks

i thought blizz had implemented like a 90% damage reduction for pets?

[magic sail]

That’s where taunt comes in in my opinion . If they’re ripping threat 30 seconds in off 7 mobs that’d be a problem but I think a separate one

[warm plinth]

Honestly I didn't realize the threat mod was that high though

[mild river]

some years ago

[cerulean tusk]

For AoE, yep

[warm plinth]

I thought it was still like 550%

[cerulean tusk]

So they dont get oneshot by bossmechanics

[mild river]

ok thanks!

[warm plinth]

If you have any logs of it happening we can look but there's no normal scenario where his pet should be taking aggro

[cerulean tusk]

Hunter pet with growl turned on

[warm plinth]

Ngl I'd be actually tilted since that would mean they intentionally turned it on

[cerulean tusk]

flip the coin, I love ppl that manually use it to eat dangerous busters

[warm plinth]

Eh, idk how relevant that really is anymore. Not a lot of trash tankbusters are that bad, if any. And pets can't taunt bosses anymore

[jagged gust]

650 so said nome, that was 2 threat buffs ago, not sure if these buffs are additive or multiplicative, but we found a 815 threat modifier last time I was asking so it may be a multiplier

[warm plinth]

They're neither. They just change the modifier to x%

But they must've stealth buffed it if it was 815? I feel like id remember seeing that but idk

[cerulean tusk]

as long it makes ppls lives better, I am all for it.

It wont solve tanks just losing threat to DPS pumping, while tanks struggle to spread the dam around efficently

[lusty grotto]

cat being serious for once

oh no, my red is gone again

[warm plinth]

It's there for me

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

Now it's holographic

[lusty grotto]

LOL

need gradient red not gradient blue, where gradient red

[cerulean tusk]

You take your gradient and you like it! It is like you, all washed.

[lusty grotto]

lol fair

[undone beacon]

i dont like this

i want red name nim back

[dusky canopy]

Yeah those are.. uh.. interesting color choices

[split stratus]

Just got https://www.wowhead.com/item=221069/slashproof-business-plate?bonus=10390:6652:11964:10383:12376:3176:10255 (haste/crit) in the vault which is great. Should I catalyst it (mastery/haste) or keep it and switch my current Waxsteel (haste/vers) to the set (mastery/crit) ?
We can't have too much haste right ? I should catalyst the chest to have both haste on head and chest ?

[mighty valley]

If your haste is high enough that you've got 100% sb uptime with ITF, I'd just sim the difference

[lusty grotto]

dont cata anything thats our bis chest

and our off piece

[split stratus]

Yeah it kinda hurt to cata this beautiful chest, will keep it like that for now and see how it goes in the future because I'm still kinda low in haste for now!

Thanks !

[lusty grotto]

for now no

forever

[split stratus]

🫶

[lusty grotto]

until next season at least if its myth track

it is done

[round cliff]

nitro boosters not brown anymore)

u get a cute pink/peach name ..

tempted to boost now

[lusty grotto]

but without red we dont go fast

need more red

[frosty mango]

Bro

My name is fire

@lusty grotto we lit

[small steeple]

My god where did the red go

[lusty grotto]

we just dont go fast

[vital vale]

discord just keeps addong more sparkles ontop of more sparklez

[lusty grotto]

but its swag

[vital vale]

in 5 years the average discord room is gonna look like a dance club

[lusty grotto]

nothing wrong with that

[vital vale]

every letter we type will have some mtx effect on it, all my Z's will be dragonball Z font, all my exclamation points will be wow quest icon

its gonna look like a ransom letter

you know those cut out from newspapers

lul

[lusty grotto]

i guess youre not a 7tv enjoyer

[vital vale]

what is that

[lusty grotto]

random colors on 7tv users in twitch chat

but its used for custom emojis really

[vital vale]

oh

on the rares times i catch streams live, i hide the chat so i wouldnt know

i like some of the cosmetics discord adds

i would prefer they focus on optimizing this software tho

and adding useful features

[lusty grotto]

its not a twitch thing

[vital vale]

like favorite gif search idk

[lusty grotto]

its an addon

twitch doesnt manage it

[jaunty otter]

sorry if its been asked before but is a 681 shield better than 671 gally shield?

[vital vale]

yes

[lusty grotto]

absolutely

ilvl >>>>> all on shields

any season, any expansion

[jaunty otter]

thank you. wasnt sure if the effect was worth the lower ilvl

[lusty grotto]

its not

the effect is very minimal

[wheat oracle]

even if you're losing bonus avoidance?

[lusty grotto]

avoidance does nothing for us

we're tanks we dont take aoe damage

[jaunty otter]

damn i feel bad for needing it then xD thanks all

[lusty grotto]

also avoidance isnt worth any ilvl

since legion

no tertiary is

[wheat oracle]

understood, thanks!

[undone beacon]

proud of u bb

now go for 3k on healer just to flex

[lusty grotto]

hell no

i mean i could but i wanna do other shit

[night heron]

Hey, I was wondering

On mythic gally, as non-evoker warrior

Can I jump to deposit the bomb and get rescued by a priest?

[jagged pier]

Yes u use gusts of wind potion

[dusky canopy]

🤮

Imagine

[undone beacon]

with a name like pebble u better be an earthen

[night heron]

No, it's a tauren called Pamoo

But he has mining

[idle copper]

Tank threat being buffed 16.5% seems weirdly specific

[chilly brook]

I don’t think it’s that specific

They just upped the number, it happens to be a 16.5% increase if you look at it from a perspective of the amount of threat gained from what we had already

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe DH won’t feel so stressful on threat anymore lol

[frosty mango]

They changed the modifier from 815% to 950%

[chilly brook]

Right which maths out to 16.5%

But like I said I doubt the thought process behind it was “we’re going to do exactly 16.5%”

[idle copper]

Fair one

[frosty mango]

So they increased the modifier by 135%, which can be confusing to think about

[chilly brook]

It was likely more “eh this seems like a big enough jump”

[frosty mango]

Functionally all abilities will do 16.5% more threat today than they did yesterday so writing it that way makes a lot more sense

If they said “increased tank threat modifier by 135%” that’s very ambiguous and would undoubtedly lead to problems with communicating the change lol

[frosty mango]

“1000 seems too high….lets go with 950….slaps laptop yep that’ll do er’”

[lusty grotto]

yeah 🤷‍♂️

sometimes these numbers are put in that way cause they have an arbitrary number in place they wanna round up, the exact amounts are kind of unknown, we only know because of rough math

[frosty mango]

You think I’m being facetious but this is almost certainly exactly how that thought process went. I’d bet money on it

[chilly brook]

I picture it like turning the dial on an oven, when you need to up the heat you go like “eh 450 seems good enough from 400” not “I need to increase the heat by 12.5%”

[lusty grotto]

yeah i wouldnt doubt it roid

[frosty mango]

That’s a great analogy

[lusty grotto]

lmao yea

[chilly brook]

Why thank you 🙂

[frosty mango]

At least until chatgpt takes over cooking

“Food not complete. Increase heat 16.5%”

[lusty grotto]

with 0 oversight

instructions unclear, house burned down

because of a random south african conspiracy

i make grok jests c:

[slender bison]

Which expac has the sickest Prot warr xmogs besides WoD?

[frosty mango]

Shadowlands

Tons of fire art in sl

[slender bison]

Dude, I'm not slaving for anima all summer lmao

[frosty mango]

You didn’t specify

[meager quail]

Speak for yourself. I adjust my oven in multiples of pi.

[frosty mango]

How there is only one 16 posted

Rip daytime keys

[undone beacon]

Dead game dune time

[slender bison]

There was that guy who farmed all anima on 70 alts and still got like 60%

[pallid quiver]

Panda has some really nice pieces if you like a lot of Older Chinese-flavoured aesthetics

[lusty grotto]

im doing an alt 11 right now and after that its dune-o-rama

[pallid quiver]

BFA has some nice weapons, as well

[slender bison]

I'm currently in WoD gladiator gear with a giga weapon for weapon throw glyph

[proud flicker]

hi, i'm a disc priest and i've been having some trouble with prot warriors in particular in my keys the last few days. im farming 13-14s and am pretty comfortable on both my class and the dungeons.

what's shield block's uptime supposed to be in keys? i had a warrior yesterday with 24% uptime and a warrior today with 43% and i felt like i had to babysit both of them. these are like 3.1k and 3.2k players btw

(sorry if this is not the correct place to ask)

[slender bison]

General Shield Block uptime should be 90%+

[proud flicker]

is there any explainable reason why uptime would be so low? like is ignore pain more important or smth?

[magic sail]

They’re not pressing their buttons

Shield block >>>>

[slender bison]

No, they just griefed you or borrowed their chars to a friend

[proud flicker]

oh that's just peachy

well thanks

[slender bison]

Like if we dont have shield block uptime 85-90%, healers will notice our HP starting to yo-yo

[small steeple]

Shield block not up=deader than a bdk that doesn’t know what deathstrike does

[slender bison]

BsV to the rescue

[undone beacon]

When I was doing my enterprising healer the prot warr for the floodgate had a crisp 26% SB uptime

Was the only dungeon I struggled to heal for that reason alone

[warm plinth]

Who invited you here

[weary wigeon]

Hi guys i have 1 question on gally MM when u eat the bomba ho que doing bc on the second set i get devastated

PD; in main dps im emergency tank

[lusty grotto]

no ignore pain is not more important

[meager quail]

I didn’t need an invitation, I’m not a vampire.

[pallid quiver]

ur mom's more important

gottem

[lusty grotto]

absolutely, ask @dusky canopy

[dusky canopy]

His mom loves my breakfast sausage

[lusty grotto]

meanwhile brew's mom has been ghosting me

im thinking shes having fun with Roidberg

[dusky canopy]

I’m telling you she fights men

Roidberg would cry

[lusty grotto]

just like i like it

[undone beacon]

Just had a guy come into the bear discord and give us the google AI summary of Bombsuit vs Mud

[lusty grotto]

warrior women are the best

and what was it

[lusty grotto]

lets see if its informed

LMAOOOOO

thats so wrong

[jagged gust]

Good ol' fire mitigation

[lusty grotto]

but so right

[undone beacon]

Bombsuit is my favorite anti-fire damage crowd control trinket

[lusty grotto]

lol

[pallid quiver]

friendly reminder that people use these LLMs as major advice and instructions on how to do things

when they're unable to even list off what a trinkie does in wow

shit's so funny tho