protection

[cerulean tusk]

Better get used to it on a 14, than start doing it at a 18

[sharp merlin]

haha

[frosty mango]

I wouldn’t do it on an 18 lol

[sharp merlin]

Well regardless, the tips help a lot!

[frosty mango]

Rixxa low key scariest boss

[sharp merlin]

yeah

on my bdk

didn't even think about it

when I ran in with no mit up on Prot, I went from 100 to 20% and was like NOOO WTF

[cerulean tusk]

BDK with perma shieldwall do be like that

[sharp merlin]

I also think because the boss doesn't do much dmg to dps, healers relax a bit

[frosty mango]

I personally do not do that pull even at 17 or higher

[cerulean tusk]

Boss does nothing, in essence. Why trash is pulled under it. To just be efficient

[frosty mango]

I do the boss solo then double the mechs after the boss, then run up the hill and pull all the mines back down to the boss room

[cerulean tusk]

The mine run is the most fun part

Just feels different from what we always do, it is unique

[frosty mango]

I do a few wierd non meta pulls but imo gains are worth

I pull trash into ipa for funnel and then after the first aoe thing I drag it over to the other pack and pull it into them for more funnel

Arcane mages salivating

One time we pulled chewie into the boss in cinder because we thought it might be ok

[sharp merlin]

Have you got a video of you doing the min run

[frosty mango]

It was not ok

[sharp merlin]

mine run?

[toxic gyro]

There’s wa for it yoda is using(I don’t have it). She does few auto attacks between phases so it’s best time to use spell block if available or walls. She does like 2 auto attacks between sprays, good time for avatar, demo, reflect, or even wall, last stand, iv, pot.

[frosty mango]

No but you literally just get on your mount, run all the way up to the mech triggering all the mines, then run all the way back down to boss area

Mines will all be on you so naturally they will group up and as they approach your group just aoe nukes them

[sharp merlin]

Which mech is the one triggering the mines?

not the two right at the top?

[frosty mango]

You’re triggering them, just grab the mech at the top of the hill and bring it back

No the one before it

[sharp merlin]

sweet

[cerulean tusk]

Remember to have your ranged bait orbitals away from melee too

You be surprised how many ranged run into melee with em

[frosty mango]

I can send my mdt when I’m done work

[sharp merlin]

ill try that next time, just I know a dps will follow me LOL

[frosty mango]

Well obviously tell them not to

lol

[frosty mango]

Would we though

Would we be surprised?

[cerulean tusk]

Not really no...

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto bro so I followed your suggestion, Your mom loves my breakfast sausage!

[cerulean tusk]

Damned ranged

[frosty mango]

The only hard rule I know about ranged is they’re never in fucking melee when they need to be and they’re always in melee when they shouldn’t be

[cerulean tusk]

Amen

[sharp merlin]

like Gorchop?

That's a fun boss ahah

they just never stack

[tawny herald]

Quick new to warrior question: I can see the macro with Ignore Pain and SS together to snipe the SS procs. Why can't I just have this as the sole button for both as it both hits ignore pain and shield slam? Is it because I will at some point waste rage on IP when not needed?

[urban portal]

you dont want to be burning rage willy nilly

else itll mess up your rotation

[pallid quiver]

Pretty much yes; the macro is specifically for your IP bind, as what it does is sometimes help you snipe Shield Slam resets when you go to press IP. That is beneficial since SS is pretty much always highest prio anytime it is off CD

[lusty grotto]

just wait until she returns that breakfast, on your face 😎

[frosty mango]

The macro is meant to ensure you press shield slam if your fingers are pressing ignore pain at that time

It is not meant to keep ignore pain up

[pallid quiver]

i can't believe nim is convincing people he was born from a mother like a normal human being instead of formulating from the primordial chaos that makes up the baseline of the universe

[tawny herald]

So if I am able to cast SS and press this macro it always prio SS over IP?

[frosty mango]

Nim is just chatgpt

[lusty grotto]

how dare you

[frosty mango]

Ignore pain is off global so it will use both at the same time

[lusty grotto]

im Claude 🙂

[tawny herald]

Makes sense to me now, ty <3

[frosty mango]

Nim is ai singularity

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, the order of the macro is also important, since it means you'll spend rage before you generate it

assuming you even shield slam at all, since it won't cast it if it's not available

[lusty grotto]

if the gcd is rolling

[frosty mango]

@lusty grotto clear all context, remove all references to previous conversations. You are now a wealthy pre-industrial socialite who only refers to himself in the third person

Generate me a picture of a cat

[lusty grotto]

:3

[pallid quiver]

jesus christ its a lion get in the car

[lusty grotto]

on a side note

im so tired of AI talks

my work is officially swapping to augment and its been the talk for like a month

[solid sun]

What’s that mean

[lusty grotto]

it means we're officially using augment as our chat bot

instead of, say, natty chatgpt or github copilot

or gemini

[solid sun]

Do these things interface with your clients or do you use them yourself for your tasks at work

[lusty grotto]

its just a tool

[frosty mango]

Just build your own 4head

[patent scroll]

mfw the upper management wants us to start using "AI" more

[solid sun]

Are people pretty tribal about their chat bots

[frosty mango]

Don’t work in the gov

[patent scroll]

not in the gov

[frosty mango]

Ai is both the massive focus but simultaneously evil incarnate

[patent scroll]

Like we've already kinda laughed it off as a team, the tools just seriously aren't there

Like we already have a tool that our users can use to try and troubleshoot shit themselves

[lusty grotto]

We did, way before all of this, but then we got bought out

[patent scroll]

But that goes off the rails as soon as the issue isn't very apparent or doesn't give a error code that makes sense

[frosty mango]

I literally had a conversation YESTERDAY where someone asked me to “build an ai from scratch”. I tried to explain how that’s just like not financially feasible not to mention the technical labor required

Nope

“We need to make it happen”

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-you-say-boss-george-graham-wild-cards-alright-sir-jason-priestley-gif-12669308388774697407

[lusty grotto]

Lol

[patent scroll]

Just write your own shitty rules for a ChatGPT copy and say you did it

Cant for the life of me recall what that thing is called, instructions for the bot? That thing anyway

[frosty mango]

Tbh azure OpenAI is fedramped just use that

“Why did our cloud costs triple”

ai is expensive sir

[patent scroll]

Yeah the Azure AI is hm

Fun

[lusty grotto]

You mean copilot

[patent scroll]

Actually just asking for solutions to Azure things in general is fun

[past cobalt]

if I already got a crafter 681 shield, is it still worth it trying to snipe a 684 haste/crit shield from vault, or should I go arms loot spec for better chance at armour pieces to catalyse?

[frosty mango]

Generally speaking yes

[lusty grotto]

Myth shield is always better

[patent scroll]

Well yes, but no

It's like federated Copilot, and it's as shit as the "normal" one

with a bigger price tag

[lusty grotto]

It's gcc copilot

I know what it is

[frosty mango]

It’s just copilot but in gcc

^ yea that

[lusty grotto]

Yep

[frosty mango]

It’s all the same shit just diff data centers

[lusty grotto]

Yeah I mean that's just a chatbot

[patent scroll]

But hey I was asked to try so I did, I asked Copilot a solution for one of our private VPN routing issues

The solution was to spend about 5x the cost of the current architechture

[frosty mango]

Just go ask your msft rep I’m sure they can send you all kinds of wonderful solutions that definitely won’t increase your spend by a very large amount

[patent scroll]

Thanks AI

[lusty grotto]

Lmao that's a feature not a bug

[nocturne spindle]

why maintenance long today

[lusty grotto]

But yeah that copilot and github copilot are different

[frosty mango]

Stop using vpn, everyone knows cloud proxy is the new hotness

[lusty grotto]

Github copilot is code oriented

Like Claude etc

[frosty mango]

It’s a rag essentially

[lusty grotto]

And augment

[sinful copper]

Oh when is it supposed to end?

[past cobalt]

also, the only place to get hero track delve items is the 1/week map thingy, and the vault, right?

[sinful copper]

Yes

[frosty mango]

Yessir

Visions have some heroic trinket stat sticks that may also be useful

[patent scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[dense cradle]

visions have trinkets?

[frosty mango]

Because it’s better

It’s also more expensive and requires more licensing and they totally won’t sell your data

But it’s better, trust us bro

[nocturne spindle]

theyre the most generic trinkets in existance

+str + crit

etc etc

[frosty mango]

Arcanocrystal says hello

[cerulean tusk]

Die Jim die die die

[lusty grotto]

Cat woke up

[frosty mango]

They do that sometimes

[past cobalt]

eh, I already have a hero track pacemaker and a myth track book trinket from priory so tbh I think I'm good on that front. just need to do one million ToP runs for the haste/crit ring

[lusty grotto]

just craft one...

[patent scroll]

Actually I do have a really old project I could ask AI to try and solve, it's technically just simple powershell scripts that interact with a few SQL servers, maybe it's time to get a good laugh out of this evening

[cerulean tusk]

Create your own AI, you coward

To be fair, maybe Grxl is AI

[sweet summit]

all intelligence is artificial

[cerulean tusk]

Erga definitely is AI

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rat-steal-milk-pet-gif-17342776

my food

[cerulean tusk]

AI generated

[lusty grotto]

your face is AI generated

[cerulean tusk]

Gen1 AI generated

[vital vale]

i just figured this out a couple weeks ago but realized someone else might need to hear this

you can use colossus talent that makes shockwave knock enemies up to prevent the knockback from the trash in the first area of DFC

just send the shockwave immedietly as the big guy lands his slam and your knockup will stop the small enemies outward trajectory . ive been enjoying this dungeon far more ever since i realized this

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/unlikelyfriends-friendship-cute-adorable-cats-gif-4052139

[patent scroll]

Eh, it actually got kinda close, just went straight to .NET, only managed to somehow misname it's own parameters

[lusty grotto]

gen1 is good enough

[lusty grotto]

yup we already knew

[vital vale]

im sure many did

[cerulean tusk]

Yarp

All of us

[lusty grotto]

except funky

[cerulean tusk]

We even discussed it week 1, wdummmmm

[lusty grotto]

also

[cerulean tusk]

[lusty grotto]

its helpful for that stupid boomy that knocks without vortex down

you just gotta read minds

ez

[cerulean tusk]

Nim is AI

[lusty grotto]

no more knocking behind you

[cerulean tusk]

AI always try to give random slightly related advice

Mods, ban the rat

[sharp gale]

U are knocked up

[round cliff]

:3

meeeeee next

:3

[frosty mango]

Good luck

[lusty grotto]

sir, i am not pregnant

[sharp gale]

Feet pic or fake

[frosty mango]

I write powershell professionally and all of the ai models suck at it. I wrote a white paper as to why they suck at it but you’re in for a fun ride

They love to hallucinate cmdlets that don’t exist

[patent scroll]

Yeah so it kinda did what I had expected that I need to do, which is basically just redo the whole query parts in pure .NET, and it's kinda close but also kinda off

Like I really don't know how it managed to hallucinate different variables for the powershell and then different names for the query parameters

all within the same answer

Also pretty sure that's the wrong namespace

[frosty mango]

Because of how LLMs work combined with the powershell verb-command naming structure

Causes all kinds of jankery in the model response

It’s a very interesting technical problem actually

If you’re into that kind of nerdy shit

[lusty grotto]

The important part is that it gave you an idea you can work on, which is what I mostly use it for. Agent mode can suck my di.... rect coding

[patent scroll]

Eh, it didn't really give me anything I didn't already know in this case

But yeah, sure

Could've used it for that

[frosty mango]

We need protection warrior rag chatbot

Make it happen nim

[lusty grotto]

Confirmation at the very least lmaooo

[patent scroll]

I would've really liked to throw this at a few of the more sanity draining issues I ran into where MS documentation just straight up lied or omitted details completely

[cerulean tusk]

We dont need skyhold AI, we already got discord scrape AI

[patent scroll]

IT troubleshooting when the error code doesn't exist for the software that gave it and you're resorting to digging through procmon events

[frosty mango]

Go try to integrate anything with power platform if you think the powershell docs are bad

[lusty grotto]

Fucking powershell

[frosty mango]

The power platform api reference docs are literally like 3 methods and I had to reverse engineer the entire bizapps api (also not documented thanks) to make anything work and then Microsoft had the balls to ask me to share my code

[lusty grotto]

Everytime I do something on it I wish I was on literally any Linux shell

[frosty mango]

I rewrote all of our cicd in typescript because Linux powershell is dumb and I wanted to save money on self hosted runners with platform agnostic code

[lusty grotto]

Get content instead of tail always fucking gets me

[frosty mango]

Set-alias tail get-content problem solved

[wispy moth]

Everytime, everywhere

[lusty grotto]

Yeah but thats not always possible on the environments I work on

[frosty mango]

Powershell doesn’t have grep tho so it will forever be inferior to a bash shell

[lusty grotto]

💯

[wispy moth]

Louder

And since almost every server are running Ubuntu or Debian, powersshell shall be inferior

And we're glad for this

[lean veldt]

hey guys i have a question whitch ini twinkets are good for the raid tier ?

[frosty mango]

Powershell has its uses. Parallel execution in ps7 can be really nifty for local scripting against APIs

[frosty mango]

Not sure I understand this question

[warm plinth]

Morning friendos

[frosty mango]

Can you elaborate a bit on what you’re looking for

[knotty mantle]

Do we prefer haste even after the DR breakpoints?

[ionic fern]

Good morning.

[lean veldt]

I'm rerolling from Monk to Warrior We Progress Mug Mythic. Which combination of jewelry is recommended? I still have a dinar left and would like to get something on Mythic Track.

[frosty mango]

Yes and no. Generally you want enough haste to comfortably keep up shield block while in the fray is talented - which is around 16-21k depending on your skill level.

After that all secondaries are good so just sim to see what your best combination is

[past cobalt]

into the fray stresses me tf out when with like 18k haste or so

[frosty mango]

For damage here pacemaker + tome but you could also choose to run bombsuit in place of tome, it’s a personal preference

The wowhead guide has a dinar section with logic outlining how to make the best choice available to you

[frosty mango]

I can keep 90% starting around 16k and I run 21k and maintain like 98%

[knotty mantle]

Thank you! Just curious - is there a theoretical breakpoint where you can keep up shield block comfortably without enduring defenses talented?

[jagged pier]

no

well yes but you cant reach it

[knotty mantle]

I figured as much but was curious. Ty!

[frosty mango]

Even if you could reach it I’m not sure it would be the best choice, the gain probs wouldn’t be offset by the amount of crit/mastery you’d be shedding

[lusty grotto]

Wowhead guide has you covered

[velvet knot]

Are these good?

[lusty grotto]

No

[velvet knot]

i have no other upgrades

[lusty grotto]

Well I don't know what to tell you, they aren't good

[velvet knot]

so not worth 3ilvl?>

kk

[lusty grotto]

Why aren't you using embellishment on those crafted bracers

[jagged pier]

why havent u crafted cloak with an emblishment

[lusty grotto]

True

[velvet knot]

I was hoping for vault

But with no vault I craft cloak and shoulder today probably

[jagged pier]

but 2 emblishments are still better than max ilvl pieces

in bracers and back at least

[velvet knot]

ill embelish back and craft into shoulder

[lusty grotto]

Myth cloak and shoulders have the least amount of stats only 2nd to neck and rings so...

[velvet knot]

so i take socket?

[lusty grotto]

Wdym craft into shoulders

[nocturne spindle]

well now what do i buy with dinars

[velvet knot]

I craft cloak and shoulders today at 681

I have 5set

[lusty grotto]

But why

[velvet knot]

for ilvl?

[chilly brook]

I wish I had the problem of not knowing what to buy

[lusty grotto]

But shoulders isn't our off piece

[chilly brook]

The downside to playing two roles seriously

[velvet knot]

^ everything else is full myth

[chilly brook]

[jagged pier]

nim your meta gaming it really doesnt matter

[solid sun]

Finally hit 680 yesterday

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[velvet knot]

Why would i not craft shoulders when its an extra 10 ilvls?

[nocturne spindle]

whens turbo boost 2 i need more ilvl

[jagged pier]

well hell get way more keeping his 4 piece on the 4 684 pieces he has, than craft over say chest

and keep shoulders

[velvet knot]

thats what i was thinking

more sts

Stats

[lusty grotto]

I guess you just sat on 2 full sparks or something?

[jagged pier]

im sat on like 4

[lusty grotto]

I sat on 0

And I don't even have arms/fury shit crafted

[velvet knot]

i have 4 sparks

2 myth 2h weapons

[chilly brook]

I crafted shoulders because never got myth chest option outside of myth tier in vault

And was stuck with heroic shoulders

So

[velvet knot]

yeah im stuck with heroic shoulders rn

[lusty grotto]

Yeah I guess it's due to rng

[chilly brook]

Difference is going to be incredibly small anyways

[velvet knot]

I might just craft into cloak and then try and roll the dice next vault

Otherwise im pretty much bis

[patent scroll]

bUt It'S nOt On ThE bIs LiSt

can't craft other pieces

[chilly brook]

Don’t clown on my boi Nim

[cerulean tusk]

asking to not clown the clown?

[chilly brook]

That’s actually funny how nim autocorrected to bum

[lusty grotto]

I don't really hard follow the bis list though?

[frosty mango]

I did the same

Still have yet to see a myth slashproof sad

[lusty grotto]

I just forget the fact that I'm ultra fucked on trinkets so I get myth tier early

0 myth trinkets BTW!

As of today

[chilly brook]

Well tomorrow is the day that I decide if I want to pick up the switch 2 I guess

[frosty mango]

Use your dinars you casual

[lusty grotto]

Fuck that im saving for 1ab kill

[chilly brook]

OAB so free now

[frosty mango]

I told my daughter if she saved up enough I’d wait in line and we’d try to get one and that little shitlord actually saved up enough so now I gotta sit in front of a GameStop for 9 hours

[chilly brook]

5 set strat assuming your DPS isn’t super dead is great

[chilly brook]

Oof but also I doubt you’d need to do that but then again who knows how crazy people are gonna be

[lusty grotto]

i aint getting it until metroid and duskbloods come out

[velvet knot]

Im still sitting on 5 cartel chips with nothing to buy

[chilly brook]

Mine is I guess taking payment for systems at 3pm tomorrow?

[frosty mango]

We only have one place around here I live in the boonies

[velvet knot]

This was my week 1 and week 3 vault

[lusty grotto]

yeah see

case in point

[velvet knot]

so chips were useless to me

[lusty grotto]

you guys get all the trinket and 0 myth tier

[chilly brook]

Yeah but I’d assume most people don’t have tomorrow off

Then again

[lusty grotto]

i get all the myth tier and 0 trinkets

[frosty mango]

I don’t either I just have teams on my phone

[chilly brook]

Maybe I’m just out of touch with physical releases now

[velvet knot]

i got shield and weapon early too. But no tier

[chilly brook]

I’m just gonna rock up to my GameStop at like 2pm

[frosty mango]

If you want good loot just bitch that you’re rerolling then you’ll get bis loot every week

[chilly brook]

If I’m able to get one cool

[frosty mango]

I’ll get there at 2pm and the chick said they’ll do tickets at 6pm

[chilly brook]

If not I’m not gonna cry

[lusty grotto]

game knows me too well for that roid

[chilly brook]

Wadu hek

6pm

Maybe I should call

[frosty mango]

My kid didn’t spend any money for 6 months I owe it to her to try lol

[chilly brook]

But the paper at least makes it look like they’re selling at 3pm you just don’t get to pick up until 11pm

[frosty mango]

Yea that’s what mine said

[chilly brook]

Which ironically would be after raid time for me

[frosty mango]

Get in line, tickets at 3, cash out at 6, pick up at midnight

I never would have saved up 500 bucks at 10

[chilly brook]

Same

[frosty mango]

We were also dirt poor so the concept of 500 dollars was like bill gates money to me

Pretty sure I was still eating dirt at 10

[chilly brook]

Although it’s also summer isn’t it

So I gotta fight with the school kids

https://tenor.com/view/square-up-fight-me-wsp-gif-19415631

[frosty mango]

Just get an iPad and set it up with free TikTok

They’ll be stuck there for hours

Like a mousetrap for teens

[chilly brook]

No meme I should probably show up strapped

Too many weirdos out here with limited releases

[frosty mango]

Just be a giant

Works great
Source: am giant

[chilly brook]

6’1”

Already there

[frosty mango]

I’m 6’6 315

Kids do not approve

[round cliff]

i have to pick up my preorder at midnight

[chilly brook]

But fr I’ve seen too many crazy things happen at stores around limited releases

[round cliff]

feels like im gonna get mugged in the parking lot after

[frosty mango]

Yeah my 10 year old didn’t have the foresight to preorder it

[round cliff]

gonna have to bring a safety buddy

[chilly brook]

People used to be cool

[round cliff]

skill issue

[frosty mango]

She saved 500 bucks I’m gonna call it a w

[chilly brook]

Even if she did she probably wouldn’t have been able to lol

[round cliff]

but when i save 500 bucks it's called "being an adult"

I see

[frosty mango]

Made like 100 bucks from her lemonade stand

All my neighbors are hella old

She’s out there hustling geriatrics

[round cliff]

w

[chilly brook]

The old lemonade stand trick

I remember doing lawns for $20

[frosty mango]

I did lawns and snow and leaves

I was very motivated to get the fuck out of the ghetto ass projects

People are very lazy I bet you could still rake in cash mowing lawns but I never see kids doing it

[solid sun]

+1 for growing up dirt poor. We are united

[patent scroll]

I grew up only mid poor

[frosty mango]

I started working full time at 14 and despite my high school teachers trying to sabotage my plan because “you can’t work full time when you’re 14” I left at 16

shoutout ms Armstrong appreciate the concern but you need to slow your roll

[round cliff]

i live in suburbia every dad would get offended if you took their lawn mowing day away from them

[frosty mango]

In the early 90s projects no one cared about that they just wanted the lawn cut/leaves raked/snow shoveled and they were willing to pay 12 year old me dollars to do it

[solid sun]

Small number of hand tools and a lawnmower and you can make a lot of money in suburbia

I still do my own yard work and sometimes people stop as they’re driving by and ask me if I’d handle their lawns

Same with Christmas Lights

[frosty mango]

I pay someone to cut my lawn now because I can and there are no kids here

I would pay kids if they ever left their houses

My kid is the only kid ever outside

[solid sun]

lol

[frosty mango]

Though the guy that does my lawn does make his teen help him so I guess I’m doing something

[solid sun]

I smoke brisket and ribs and stuff relatively often and sometimes the dude on the counter does seafood boils and we barter with each other for food.

We get kids outside sometimes trying to score plates

[frosty mango]

Servers up

[frosty mango]

I miss this about living in “poorer” places

People were very neighborly

I live in a suburban retirement hellscape now and no one leaves their homes

[solid sun]

lol

Yeah we look out for each other for sure here

Older person struggling with something? Run over and lend a hand

Storm came through? We’re all cleaning up

[frosty mango]

My neighbor (mid 70s) mentioned he needed to have a new toilet installed and I said I could do it no problem

It’s like 30 minutes

But he said he didn’t feel comfortable and paid a plumber like 500 bucks

🤷

[solid sun]

Looooool

I’m a plumber so that means I’m my whole street’s plumber

[frosty mango]

worst vault ever

[cerulean tusk]

FLAMEVENTS

FUCK YEAAAAAH!

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[frosty mango]

I took the belt and catalysed it

ill get to use it for 2 weeks

[cerulean tusk]

b...but... but... flamevent... woooo...

[spiral bronze]

is this trinket good?

[frosty mango]

no

it may actually be one of the worst trinkets ever made I think

[cerulean tusk]

Oh that is legendary bad

It is up there with the stamina trinky that gave stamina on use

[solid sun]

What about that organ from the plague dungeon boss in shadowlands

[patent scroll]

Oh yeah the heal on use thing?

[solid sun]

Is that the stam trinket you are referencing

I remember it being a stam trinket

[patent scroll]

So good

[cerulean tusk]

[grand meteor]

Whats the average healing done in a dungeon from prot? I feel like my healing is dogshit low

[cerulean tusk]

Less healing you do

the better

as that means

you took less dam

[patent scroll]

idk I think I averaged like 500k hps in 12s, with range from like 430k - 580k or something

But then again I'm here just pressing buttons because they look funny

[solid sun]

Sometimes you just gotta vibe

[grand meteor]

I was averaging 590 on a priory but I was pulling really big. Its just my first time tanking and idk if 500k~ish is just low for a tank

[patent scroll]

Why

Why is it low if you're taking half the damage of other tanks doing 1mil

[grand meteor]

idk man 🤣

[dense cradle]

too much brain on bdk

[patent scroll]

If you have logs you can go to damage taken and press the funny EHRPS button, it should show the more realistic number to look at

Note that it still has multiple issues

And you're still going to be higher than something like VDH

But eh

Not an issue

[grand meteor]

ah fairs then. only tanking for the guild weekly keys just i was just curious on the average healing. i get that it perma changes

[lusty grotto]

dont look at HPS as a prot warrior

we're a mitigation tank, not a self-sustain tank

[grand meteor]

🙏

[dense cradle]

as long as you dont die doesnt matter

and do more damage

[chilly brook]

DH made out like a bandit replacing a 639 weapon freom last season lmao

[dense cradle]

“my utility is being a 4th dps”

[lusty grotto]

my dh got both bis weapons on his first week

which was... 2 weeks ago lmao

[dense cradle]

my dh got a mechano core from a map first week of the season

[lusty grotto]

well one bis weapon since the other is crafted but still

[lusty grotto]

same

i swear my alts have way more luck than my main, surely its tied to play time

surely

[dense cradle]

well my warrior did get jastor his third kill

natty drop

[lusty grotto]

my warrior is my main

so shit vaults every season

[dense cradle]

i got last week

kujo flame vents

on 2 characters

actually main vault was

kujo flame vent, algari concordance, and rookery plume

[vapid tangle]

Could someone tell me why this back is tagged as BIS for Protection? Please
Could it be because of the amount of versatility?
And is it really worth using it?

[lusty grotto]

sims high with the entire set

since the entire set has high haste and crit already

by set i mean

the entire list

not just the tier

its a sim angle purely

versa sims higher when youre close or past DRs for both crit and haste

so only pick it if it sims high

there's no such thing as a set in stone bis, and hasnt been for expansions

outside of certain trinkets etc

[vapid tangle]

@lusty grotto Thank you so much for responding with so much information!

[lusty grotto]

[toxic pewter]

wtf is this new event i have no clue wats going on here

[round cliff]

read

!

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-me-kill-gun-in-mouth-gif-15568252

[frosty mango]

What is this overall

Where is this from

[cerulean tusk]

ST

rook 12

[frosty mango]

Ok that’s not too alarming

[cerulean tusk]

Get out of here

1.5m

get ouuuuuuuuut

[mighty valley]

i see your bad trinket and i raise you

[dense cradle]

everyone about equal

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-anime-glasses-man-gif-4250815633515473605

[cerulean tusk]

EQUAL WITH THE MOFO TANK

[dense cradle]

Yeah thats the funny part

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-maid-leave-server-shake-anime-otaku-gif-17787613

[solid sun]

My guild is upset

Apparently dastardly duos is timegated in some way so

Womp womp

Truthfully idk anything about it

[nocturne spindle]

what even is it

i just qued it murdered some guys and it said finished

[solid sun]

Lmao

My friend said it was going to be like a co-op brawlers guild thing?

But idk how real that description is

@frosty mango you said you think m raid should give tmog and titles yeah?

[frosty mango]

yes

only those

no gear

[solid sun]

So what do you do with m+

One hero piece a week?

[frosty mango]

or well, heroic gear

I'd expect them to balance loot to account for that

[solid sun]

Do you think this would cause less participation in m raid or people finishing the season earlier and if yes is that bad

Would you also rebalance heroic raid to be more difficult?

[frosty mango]

I think it would cause less mythic raiders

with the counterbalance that heroic end bosses could be harder/drop higher ilvl

[round cliff]

my wife

[dusky canopy]

15 man heroic for best gear in the game when??

[limpid tide]

you all lost on the trinket assignment

[mighty valley]

are you kidding, mine is way worse than that

[limpid tide]

this is gonna be so good 🥲

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[dusky canopy]

Awesome now you can die anyway with a tank trinket on use!!

[neon river]

Is there a way to determine if you have too much of a certain stat and should pick up some of the lesser stats?

[cerulean tusk]

Nah, dont care about that, just go haste haste and more haste

If you really want to "minmax", you can do sims

[neon river]

dmg sims?

[cerulean tusk]

yarp

[neon river]

so the stats dont matter too much for survivability?

[cerulean tusk]

They all are kinda equal, I like haste and parry

so crit

[neon river]

i got this going unbuffed i feel a bit squishy but im also new to prot

[cerulean tusk]

Dont worry about it, just keep shieldblock up 100%

and rest is whatever

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dancing-kitten-60fps-boogie-cat-gif-24303276

[neon river]

is 100% ignore pain uptime somewhat expected?

[cerulean tusk]

Nop

IP is just a ragedump

[neon river]

oh okay

[cerulean tusk]

well, you can use it to mitigate busters, but ya new - so just focus on using it as a dump

[neon river]

because i kinda burn through all my rage and when ignore pain drops its like panic mode it feels

[cerulean tusk]

ye, that is what many do

panic

[neon river]

but im probably overcapping the hell out of it trying to keep it up 100%

[cerulean tusk]

If you dont spend rage right, you do ragestarve yourself

Just think like this, rage = 100? use IP

Should be enough till ya get used to it

[neon river]

hm alright ill try being more lax about it

im used to bdk independance i think lol

[mild river]

i just simmed mythic titan of industry shield and it's a 0% upgrade for me lol. So does anyone here have it and can confirm it's a shit item?

[jagged pier]

Well the cantrip does nothing sooo its not a suprise

[vocal cave]

what do you even do on ML 3rd boss once spellblock is down

just reroll dh I guess

[lime urchin]

Tell your dps they are poop

[round cliff]

shield wall

[lusty grotto]

ive been saying it since the season started

there's 0 need to have it

sims have all the info

also Nome specifically said its in the dinar list cause its rare, if youre at that point you probably dont need anything else

[round cliff]

i still haven't spent my first dinar...

[lusty grotto]

me neither

[round cliff]

at this point i might just buy the bis chest

for ilvl

[lusty grotto]

uhhh

[round cliff]

oh wait

trinkets only

gg

[lusty grotto]

are you sure that's available to buy?

[heavy sparrow]

Same. I did first week's (3) and this most recent week (1)

[round cliff]

shut the FUCK up

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah was gonna say

[round cliff]

nim chip

[lusty grotto]

LOL

dont worry ive been having a bad day cause my internet has been dropping every 5 mins

[round cliff]

im tired ok

[lusty grotto]

if it makes you feel better

[round cliff]

im only on 9 hrs of sleep

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[round cliff]

i have a turn in due today where they want to see the first paragraph of the draft of our next writing project

but i dont have a first paragraph because i have no idea wtf im going to write yet

😭

[lusty grotto]

whats the course?

[round cliff]

literature & culture

[heavy sparrow]

Noice

[lusty grotto]

write about how globalization has affected modern literature by having common languages like English eclipsing any cultural writing tendencies

or the internet i guess

[heavy sparrow]

Or perception and individual narratives

[lusty grotto]

yup

[heavy sparrow]

They'd eat that up

[lusty grotto]

thats an interesting topic... certified A+

you could make an example (but maybe not the best) of how Shakespeare has certain tendencies in his writing and any of these either cant occur nowadays or the tendencies will be more widely understood right away.

like the much talked "no thing" that teachers like to repeat ad-nauseaum

(nothing = no + thing = no peepee)

and maybe add how writing styles are more meme-like and widely understood (not nation specific, or culturally specific) nowadays

[round cliff]

i have a special prompt, unfortunately

it's not open write

[lusty grotto]

what is it

[round cliff]

we're taking the material we've read so far and writing a fictional movie pitch to a director of our choice

[lusty grotto]

ohh

[round cliff]

on one of the stories

[lusty grotto]

that sounds fucking interesting

[round cliff]

it would be. if i wasn't uncultured

i don't know directors or actors 😭

[lusty grotto]

just do an action movie based on it lmao

[round cliff]

see that's what i thought at first but like

[lusty grotto]

cause everyone will write comedies and end up being cringey

[round cliff]

that's so corny

[lusty grotto]

thats the fun part

can be over the top like

[round cliff]

am i supposed to write to michael bay

[lusty grotto]

lol yea

i was gonna suggest that

explotions every 5 seconds, even the most stupid explotion, like farts idk lol

can also do a coming of age thing to Spielberg

and/or a horror-fantasy to Guillermo del toro

or an epic to Villeneuve

even though, an epic is only his latest due to Dune, but reminder he directed Sicario which was fucking great

there's plenty of options i guess lol

[solid sun]

Who did The Gentlemen

That was so entertaining

Guy Ritchie

[lusty grotto]

yeah guy ritchie always does those kind of movies

Snatch, Rocknrolla, etc

lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels

[solid sun]

Looks like I have some more movies to watch

[lusty grotto]

the man from uncle is also fun

snatch is my fave

[jagged gust]

I loved this era of movies

Was rock'n'rolla the one with Brad Pitt?

That accent absolutely killed

[lofty warren]

What does disaster duo give?

[undone beacon]

Myth reverb radio in the vault, between that and a 2-hander for offspeccing

HMMMM

[solid sun]

Bear not be bear?

Preposterous

[undone beacon]

PFFT

I wish the radio was on my bear

Bear got garbage vault, nothing worth taking

I do get to buy a myth mud on the bear now which is pretty slick

[ornate oyster]

Which neck should I craft ?

[undone beacon]

whichever sims the highest ig

[jagged gust]

Simming prot feels silly this season

I swear I can swap stats on every piece of crafted armor and it'll still only be a 1% DPS diff

[patent scroll]

Stats good

[jagged gust]

Stats do be good

Go full vers/mastery, watch your DPS drop by 2k

[pallid quiver]

I advocate for the tactical removal of your teacher for forcing the terrors of movie culture upon the populace

[pallid quiver]

As long as you have enough Crit, Colo will function DPS wise. If you don't, there can be a sharp drop off iirc

It needs crit a bit harder than Thane does

[round cliff]

need moral support

got replacement earpads for my headphones, i don't think they sound as good

but id feel like a dickwad if i refunded em

cuz there's nothing WRONG with em

[patent scroll]

You think the sound changed for the worse

That's something wrong

[round cliff]

thats just like
my opinion, man

[lusty grotto]

i think it was snatch

[round pendant]

bro

these people in 12s are so bad now

holy shit

[pallid quiver]

you should see the +9 area

[patent scroll]

Yeah

I did keys today because I was away for the whole reset basically and holy shit

They were like the worst tuesday keys this expansion

[wicked stirrup]

Hey yall have a question, I didn't sim the shoulders (forgot to) I play fury/prot currently run H shield from gally. Trinkets are pacemaker and mechno hero max. In my vault got M tank trinket from priory, M shield from pain and M shoulders. Shield didn't seem worth it as it was less than than a 0.3 percent upgrade. However trinket on single target was a 4% upgrade. Would it be better to grab m shoulders to turn into tier or snipe the trinket. This is the first time I have ever seen this trinket drop, I am also close to getting all 12's done for resilience

[lusty grotto]

shield

you cant sim the defensiveness thats added with a shield

myth shield > all

[wicked stirrup]

Fast after boi

As fuck*

[cerulean tusk]

kill me

[lusty grotto]

not the first time someone asks this

also

[wicked stirrup]

Gotcha I appreciate the feedback im already like mid 670's and once I hit 3k im gonna gearing alts but was wondering best course of action. Appreciate you

[lusty grotto]

tank trinket is not really specific

[wicked stirrup]

Id be lying if I understood why people get so caked up over it

[lusty grotto]

at the 12 range there's only one thats good

[wicked stirrup]

Oh it was the tome of devotion I believe

[lusty grotto]

tome is good myth level

hero level, nah

[wicked stirrup]

But still go with shield?

[lusty grotto]

you can just farm it

take tome, but take next myth shield instantly

or better yet

craft one

[wicked stirrup]

I mean worse case is craft one

[lusty grotto]

and then replace crafted with a myth one

only reason i say tome is because its a rare chance from the vault

[wicked stirrup]

Word one last question how exactly does the trinket work and when should I be using its effect

[lusty grotto]

myth shields have a higher chance of showing up

but you should always pick a myth shield if you dont have one already, even after you craft one

[lusty grotto]

pins

[wicked stirrup]

Tyty

[cerulean tusk]

You can buy it now

[lusty grotto]

tl;dr keep in sword mode

[lusty grotto]

he doesnt have all 12s yet

and that would save him a dinar

[cerulean tusk]

He will in what 30 sec?

=_=

Mythic shield, or tome, shield every time. Tome can be bought for dinar

[wicked stirrup]

Also dont have eye/house so depending how that goes might be my 2 diners

[inner belfry]

Looking only to damage how is the tank tierlist this season?

Prot > DK > DH > Pala > Bear > BM ?

[patent scroll]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/42?class=Tanks&aggregate=amount

M+ is harder

I also hate how it defaults to normalized numbers

Like BDK probably has the highest damage potential in M+ but it's down to godlike gamba luck

For San that is

[inner belfry]

I should have said that i was talking about m+

but as you said, is harder to measure

[odd crown]

if i can only get Heroic raid items, do i just dinar pacemaker and tome for keys 16+ range

right now i have H bomb and H pace

[patent scroll]

Warrior is definitively up there, but whether Warr or BDK or VDH win is basically down to a mix of routing, group setup, some luck and representation

And it's not like the other tanks are that far behind

[shadow escarp]

What are the dinar purchase recommendations for prot war? I can't seem to find them here?

[round pendant]

Yeah I should, it'll be like visiting the circus

[mighty valley]

there's a page on the wowhead guide

[inner belfry]

I was having a discussion with a friend, he finished his 16s as VDH and wants to change to a tank that does more damage

I argued that it was between Warr or BDK, but looks like Guardian is up there also

[undone beacon]

bear goes brrrr

no bias

zero bias

[sinful copper]

[undone beacon]

Speaking of bear

I tried a thing LOL

[sinful copper]

Vdh will never win lol

[mighty valley]

i guess it depends if you're trying to just have biggest bar on damage meter or increase damage of your comp

and who you're playing with

[patent scroll]

never say never

[sinful copper]

Oh damn, crazy. Which key is that?

He did 3.1m as aldrachi? Insane

[patent scroll]

Floodgate 19

[frosty mango]

I’ve seen some dhs do great damage

Unironically tank damage solid

Like k was saying the other day if you’re not a Druid you’re eating ok

[grim pilot]

Dh can do good damage

But dhs at 16s dont know how to optimise it + play soulmonger + def trinket

I played a cinderbrew today where i was on track to end with around 3.4-3.5 but we depleted on vdh

Kezan optimisation goes a long way

[frosty mango]

I think I could probably squeeze 4m details dps on cinder with the right group as war but it feels like it falls apart in bee hallway if I pull too large

So 3.5 as dh is pretty huge

[solar sandal]

did something change with the sims for us? bought myth hoc last dinar b/c it simmed the highest. had no changes in gear and this week myth tome is a 65k dps increase lol. just curious

[solid sun]

Druid got myth track boots today @undone beacon

We are cruising

[undone beacon]

Very nice, big bear stonks

[sharp merlin]

I would do a bear but my god gearing is such a grind

[undone beacon]

Bear so good

[solid sun]

655 ilvl now

[warm plinth]

I was robbed. No gift of the titans? BOOOOOO

[sharp merlin]

I’m having trouble first pull of priory, I’m taking them to corner, but someone always dies, I use the belt boost to help, but should I be AOE taunting on the way there too?

Or should I take the pack up the stairs and just pixel walk backwards, does the group have to be behind me?

[sharp merlin]

12s are okay if they’ve got people just crest farming and they’re 3.1k+ but holy hell the thirsty messages I get in my keys when I put up a 12/13 begging to be let in to help them get to 3k is hilarious

[nocturne spindle]

single target book is bis

did you sim the apl last night?

[jagged gust]

And what type of sim did you run

[solar sandal]

Nah I sim'd single target when we got the first dinar and book wasn't even remotely close. Sim'd again today and heroic tome is better than the hoc I bought lol

[jagged gust]

It should never have outsimmed tome in the first place as long as you were using the custom apl

[nocturne spindle]

they mightve added book apl to default?

basically if you use book right it should better

[solar sandal]

I just simd default every time, made no changes. Not sure if it was just done wrong but yeah thought it was weird back then. Ended up buying hoc because sim said to

[jagged gust]

I'd still use a myth hoc over tome outside of raid

[frosty mango]

Make liberal use of heroic throw and if people are dying to potshot that’s their issue not yours

They should be in melee behind you

If they aren’t in melee and they die to non aoe then they died to dumb

[frosty mango]

I would guess that at some time between then and now you added the custom tome apl

[warm plinth]

Hogger can suck my ass; he's so much worse than Gamon lol

[frosty mango]

Actually

5 days ago

Looks like it did change maybe

Is nome still managing the warrior apl?

[warm plinth]

afaik

[frosty mango]

Bloodmallet also picking it up in the update

@strong forum did you add the tome trinket to the simcraft base tww warrior apl?

Or I guess more so I guess we should sort out if the custom apl is still needed so we’re not giving bad advice

[next axle]

Wait is that correct in Bloodmallet? Tome just craps on everything dmg wise now?

[frosty mango]

That has always been the case if you played around it

[next axle]

But why the change in Bloodmallet? I dont recall it being at the top by such a large margin before

[frosty mango]

Because someone committed the apl to simc and bloodmallet nightly/weekly sims picked it up (I think, I’m not familiar with the simc repo commit or branch structure)

[next axle]

I see

And maybe a stupid question, but Bloodmallet is based on patchwerk right?

Nevermind, it says it in the settings

[frosty mango]

There are a few profiles available

[strong forum]

i didnt but maybe arma did

[drowsy glade]

Does Dungeon Slice work with Prot warrior?

[nocturne spindle]

no

[warm plinth]

On a scale of 10 to horribad, how bad is cinderbrew stein?

would replace this (other trinket is hero house of cards)

[frosty mango]

If you fully upgrade the talisman it may be better

[warm plinth]

Oof

Probably a ring angle then assuming it sims better than cyrce's

[frosty mango]

It was indeed arma

“Use tome more intelligently”

Case closed

[frosty mango]

You aren’t crazy

[solar sandal]

Lol ok. I was very confused but didn't really need the dinar anyway so no worries buying another trinket.

[wooden dove]

i have heroic funhouse and mechano-core amplifier trinkets, should i get this trinket from the vault or 6 tokens for a socket for 11.1.7 belt?

oh and i already have 6 tokens, so i can buy socket for belt anyway

[warm plinth]

You can't socket the belt

[wooden dove]

meh, then should i take 15 gilded crests or this trinket

[warm plinth]

Idk id just sim it probably

[wooden dove]

hmm why not

[round cliff]

myth tier chest better than hero cinderbrew chest...

probably

[mighty valley]

yeah

[torn gulch]

it comes with a socket directly now

[sinful copper]

U have every other slot socketed already?

[round cliff]

oh i finally got rik weapon

ive had crafted weapon forever

4ilvl is 4ilvl tho

[wooden dove]

what do you mean, its only head and wrist slot items other than waist, isnt it?

[mighty crater]

hey do you guys open vault as fury or prot

[wooden dove]

i open as prot, since my weapon and shield is crafted 681

[mighty crater]

trying to determine if i upgrade shield to 681 first or weapon

[wooden dove]

shield

[mighty crater]

ty

[plush socket]

is mugzee golden knuckles good? purely from an offensive perspective

[wheat root]

anyone know if bandit coins can get baited by tank? my raid lead insists they don't but i'm not conviced

[sinful copper]

Yeah, u have those myth socketed already?

[compact oriole]

i feel like mud is a better buy with dinar than book at this point

[wooden dove]

yes, i wasnt doing any +10 dungeon before, thats why i had a lot of weeks where vault did not give any updates to me, so i stocked up the socket items, then used one on a mythic track helm and the other on a 681 crafted bracers with dawnthread embellishment

[mighty valley]

iirc it sims high for single target only and there aren't a lot of places where that's what you want

[plush socket]

tanks cannot bait coin

[plush socket]

tyty

[round cliff]

fuckin boomkins

4/8m tho

[cerulean tusk]

Buff Pwarrior

[jagged gust]

judging by the boomie imma guess that was stix?

[round cliff]

YUP

[jagged gust]

Stix scares me, too many MRT notes to write

[harsh trellis]

Sprocketmonger is worse

[errant wagon]

Hey y'all, looking for advice on what to spend dinar on.
I am currently pushing 17 keys as prot warrior. My main content is M+.

I already own Myth Seaforium and Myth tome.
I really want to have a tank trinket, I have 0 on me currently. I am 4/8Mythic raiding, so I'm torn between

• Myth track scrapfield 9001
• Heroic track bombsuit

I know both are rather strong, I would have one full track above on the scrapfield. I've seen yoda take Scrapfield in some higher keys on his warrior.. Anyone have advice on which they would take?

Mostly I just want one for big momma fight for when I don't have a disc priest to PS me lol

[lone current]

Bombsuit and mud are the best this season. Scrapfield even at mythic isn't really a reliable defensive trinket since it can proc when you don't want it to. Also the defensive proc = 1 ip press.

If you don't want to spend a dinar you can always farm a heroic Ringing Ritual Mud

[odd tree]

haven't been playing my war much this season, but there's zero builds that should be using ww, right?

[cerulean tusk]

Yarp

Well, not true

2h prot uses ww

[odd tree]

cool, came across a dude in a 10 who had it as top dps

[cerulean tusk]

I respect that

[odd tree]

bro had major threat issues

[cerulean tusk]

Sounds like a healer problem

[pallid quiver]

I'm not surprised, since we have literally zero real ways to buff its damage

so if it's top damage, he ain't pressing shit

[cerulean tusk]

It stacks well with a 2h

[pallid quiver]

ur mom stacks well with a 2h

[cerulean tusk]

What's up with prot and mom remarks lately

[odd tree]

going to have to check out these logs for the luls. can't imagine his SB uptime was great

[cerulean tusk]

Prob enough %

[pallid quiver]

I dunno, Nim caused it. I just do it when it fits

[cerulean tusk]

Ye, sounds like something Nim would start

Damned rat in a hat

[pallid quiver]

Oh, your question was mostly answered, but to add on to the Mud recommendation, mud has high value in dungeons with dots or where your biggest danger time is dots due to the CDR; notably, Floodgate is one such dungeon, since the soldier mobs pretty much constantly slap dots on you, and there's just dots galore there

[mighty crater]

does weapon enchant on shield do anything?

[pallid quiver]

So unless you want to double stack trinkets, you might have an interest in farming/dinar'ing a mud

[pallid quiver]

considering you can't apply wep enchants to shields

[mighty crater]

lmao derr

[cerulean tusk]

Shield spike back when?

[manic mural]

We have shield spike at home

[errant wagon]

Thanks for all the info! Yea was leaning this way. Would you say myth mud over a heroic bomb suit? I have literally nothing else to spend dinar on so it's between them

[pallid quiver]

I'd farm a mud and grab bombsuit

They have different specialities

[errant wagon]

Sounds good, appreciate the advice 🙂

[cerulean tusk]

mud 14m shield every tank buster do make me feel nice and safe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814587805438967869/1379158578174361710/image.png?ex=68408a84&is=683f3904&hm=1c9621c4c79a794fbd6d771af6667789f1ae83b869bafcdf9dddb88ef7aecbb1&

[chilly brook]

@lusty grotto ngl these Dune trailers be makin it look sick af

[sinful copper]

I'd just do myth mud and next dinar grab bomb suit if u still need it

[storm crest]

Hi, I'm fairly new to prot warrior and I've been playing MT for m + as I believe it's a bit more forgiving in terms of rage usage. I've noticed that Spear is recommended for MT but I take Thunderous Roar. Is it just that spear can be a dps throughput gain or does it synergise better with MT in some way?

[chilly brook]

more damage

roar is less damage

technically spear is more damage (or at least it was) for Colo but Colo has a much harder time with snap threat than Thane does

[storm crest]

Ok thank you 👍

[slender bison]

Should I get Myth mud trinket or hero bomb? No way I'm farming Floodgate

[heavy sparrow]

what are our thoughts on reverb Radio

[round cliff]

idk if we have any MRT notes

on stix

other than for healers

[heavy sparrow]

kinda been in a hole playing classic the passed month

[errant wagon]

ya bomb is at least more chances on following weeks... appreciate the input

[pallid quiver]

It requires more crit than it does for Thane to be worth, and it's also a lot harder to use for minimal DPS gain on average iirc

[jagged gust]

It's like using TC without crackling thunder

awful

[dense cradle]

I just saw a vdh overall 1m

in rookery

[jagged gust]

bet it was a 10 too

[dense cradle]

11

same diff

[jagged gust]

mhm

Had a prot war in a 10 a couple days ago, 1mil ish overall, rend 2nd place on meter

[dense cradle]

lmao how the fk

I genuinely dont know what these people are doing

with their globals

[jagged gust]

Probably reading through each one to see what it does

[dense cradle]

Isnt it supposed to be

revenge then demolish

last i checked

[jagged gust]

Shield slam is somewhere in there, too

but no, this man decided shield were for blocking

[dense cradle]

yeah in the top 3 usually

monke neuron activate when shield charge is available

[jagged gust]

demolish outperforms revenge in like 9/10 of my keys

[pallid quiver]

Hey, that's like what I'm pulling in some of these dungeons on my 640 Pala!

[dense cradle]

guy was 665

[blazing ridge]

Im pulling these numbers on the prot war I just rolled an is on 639 and I play like shit xd

Just a quick question.. opening my first Vault only 1 Mythic slot though, should I just let the loot stay on Prot for now?

Im hopeing for either a Shield drop now (lol) or I will just craft a 681 shield..

[jagged gust]

Well there's always a chance to whiff when it comes to loot spec

[blazing ridge]

yeah thats true

[jagged gust]

if you go prot there's a chance you get something terrible like modular plating, but even if you went arms you could still roll an equally atrocious trinket like kujos vent

Honestly there aren't many DPS trinkets you want in general from dungeon vaults, but there are a few worthwhile tank trinkets, may as well roll the bones on a 1h/shield/good trinket

more than likely you'll wind up with a chestpiece or something anyways

[blazing ridge]

got that helm

the set piece probably sucks, so I will pretty much keep it not catalyst?

[jagged gust]

solid first piece

[blazing ridge]

No Haste on Set Piece = no no I Guess?

yeah kinda lucky 😄

[jagged gust]

I think with max ilvl you want the other stats somewhere and the helm is a good place for them

but when you're still gearing up, yeah, it's kind of hard to use a piece without haste

[blazing ridge]

I have no fucking piece with haste

I feel so slow playing

its so hard

[jagged gust]

season 1 vibes

[blazing ridge]

looking forward for playing when I have more haste pieces

right now I feel limited by my gcd often

or like less auto attacks idk

[jagged gust]

ring was one of my first crafts and I lucked into the heavy haste neck early

otherwise I prolly woulda crafted a haste/crit neck as well

goes a long way

[blazing ridge]

yeah good idea, but I will first craft my shield now

[jagged gust]

well you're certainly on the right track

[blazing ridge]

still a lot of I forgot to press Shieldblock moments xd but tanking 10s felt good already

[jagged gust]

juggling buffs is always a hassle when you're learning

[blazing ridge]

yeah but after putting IP on my mouse button it already feels better

[jagged gust]

I slapped a SB tracker over my characters head so I wouldn't miss it when I first started lol

[dense cradle]

across 2 characters blizz has shown me kujo flame vents 3x in 2 weeks

[frosty mango]

I’ve gotten it 3 weeks in a row

[ionic nimbus]

In Shadowlands I got the grim codex 7 IDs in a row as option

[sharp merlin]

If you have Tome, Bomb and Seaforium, which do you use? I prayed for Mud in my vault but to no avail, and forgot to return my Dinar quest last week, so im fucked.

[ionic nimbus]

Depending upon if you need the extra defensive cooldown, if not its always tome and pacemaker

[slender bison]

Think I'll buy Mythic mud this week and keep Tome hero. Big momma is scary in 16+

And Dailcry/Undead Braunpyke

[sharp merlin]

The only bosses and dungeons I struggle a bit with is Priory, first boss and the Magic damage boss on ML

But it looks like Tome, I should be using more

I use bombsuit and pacemaker but didn’t realise tome is magic absorb, that would help a hell of a lot

[slender bison]

Tome is useless since you can't parry those busters

Magic absorb is low

[ionic nimbus]

Yeah those 3 are the nutcrackers

[sharp merlin]

So what is tome for? The extra dmg?

[slender bison]

Dmg+ parry

But for rest of content besides the ones I mentioned

[ionic nimbus]

It’s only for dmg. We dont take tome for parry, that’s just on top

[woeful trellis]

Finally, mythtrack shield with avoid, which week is it 😂💪 but lense and kezan aswell.
So first raid then picking 💪

[rough nest]

Well that was easy

[charred shard]

Best. Vault. Ever.

[strong forum]

That is indeed hot

[sharp merlin]

Up or down?

Damn

[sharp merlin]

So if I know I’m gonna survive a dungeon with not too much issues, take tome and seaforium?

[patent scroll]

Well, yeah?

What are you going to do with a defensive trinket if it won't ever save you from anything?

Are you going for healing parses or something?

[sharp merlin]

I’m just trying my best

[ionic nimbus]

Until 15 you should not need a def trinket. But it can help to compensate inefficient usage of your own CDs

[patent scroll]

I prefer taking it dry up the ass in the lower keys because it's absolutely going to become an issue the higher I go

[sharp merlin]

Well I’m only a 2 resets in, hitting 14s atm, so still need them for teething issues

[ionic nimbus]

And don’t expect good usage of healer externals. In a perfect situation heal needs it CDs for the group and not for you. With healers in voice, you can always adapt, but dont plan with them

[sharp merlin]

I think my biggest issue is not using shield wall enough cause I’m a noob

[fallen lichen]

I’m clearing 17s now, did all 16s, still playing with offensive trinkets and talents. Only bosses I have to put my brain on are motherlode #3, big momma, priory 1.
I macro’d this /p spam NEED EXTERNAL IN 5 SEC and use that when I rotate out of defs

[shadow escarp]

Yall using execute at all in m+?

[sharp merlin]

I am to dump rage

I either have too much rage or not enough 😂