protection

[paper crypt]

Just delete ret paladin and then everyone will play fury by default

[chilly brook]

we're literally great rn

what are you on about?

[slender bison]

Dude, we cant change 1 talent point. It's all fixed.

[chilly brook]

That doesn't mean we're downbad

[shadow jewel]

im actually wondering what the new tir pice cook will be i kinda liked the whole gamba thing

[chilly brook]

gamba gross

I love getting it to proc right as the mob dies

or after I took the dangerous hit

[shadow jewel]

but when it hits in the good pack its amazing tho

but thats just a degenerate gambler in me saying it so leave me be

[chilly brook]

I mean there are times when it procs and feels good but I'd really just rather not have it be the way it is

[shadow jewel]

true but still some times it feels nice i guess better then nothing but idk im wondering as i said whats the next cook i was very against the set thing when they announced it but honestly it was not too bad idk cant say that i love it and its the best thing ever and i cant say i hate it

[edgy bloom]

wtf bro, are you recording me?

[shadow jewel]

dam you noticed

[wispy moth]

Literraly me every night

[shadow jewel]

i stand correctly average prot warrior enjoyer

[finite tapir]

Hi, I know this question has been asked a lot but if im a new tank, am I better off using my chips on Chromebustible bomb suit or house of cards? I am not considering the rest of them since the rest are drops from mythics anyway.

[rare basin]

Anyone secretly hoping fury thane buffs come over to protection like last time with col

[sinful copper]

Where's it say that?

[paper crypt]

In my opinion, house of cards before chrome

Wowhead also says that

[finite tapir]

Ok cool ty, didnt know how much of a crutch/necessity chrome would be or if its not that big of a deal

[rare basin]

Depends on the level of keys ya doing fella

[finite tapir]

starting at 5s now, hoping to push to 15s

[rare basin]

House of cards is solid then

[paper crypt]

Just double checked and it says +18

So I was wrong

[crude notch]

you're also reading it wrong

[sinful copper]

The #2 NA tank is Yoda's warrior so not sure why it would say it caps out at 18. I'm sure other prot warriors have done higher too

[crude notch]

It doesn't say that

[solid sun]

Sense has done 19's

[paper crypt]

Oh nice that's fantastic

[rare basin]

Yea some warriors doing 20s are the top of the ladders, 18s (depending on key) I still feel safe

[paper crypt]

One warrior for 20 VDH 😭

[chilly brook]

Peeps have done 20s on prot

[paper crypt]

Yeah turns out I was either wrong or outdated

[rare basin]

First boss in priory at 18 is a lil scary imo and 3rd in motherloade when taking mechs into it

Trash tho I ever feel in danger in 18s

[chilly brook]

I mean I wouldn’t spend a dinar on bombsuit period

Not a lot of people want or need the item

Much easier to farm it

[rare basin]

What he said, if ya ain’t raiding ritual mud is still good and will drop while your doing keys at some point

[chilly brook]

Or you just do heroic sales runs and just buy the bomb suit off whoever gets it because they don’t want it anyways

[crude notch]

If you're looking specifically at the PWar page, archon tells you what the highest key is that the most popular talent build you're looking at timed, that doesn't mean that's the highest prot warrior key period.

[chilly brook]

And it’s better in 2 of the 8 dungeons

[rare basin]

I’ll use it in cinder/flood and priory

Cinder lowkey op for first room

[chilly brook]

I don’t think it’s worth in cinder but that’s me

[rare basin]

It’s the dots from the partons. A lot of dot uptime

[chilly brook]

I know why you’d do it

[rare basin]

3 muscle first pull I’ll use it twice

[chilly brook]

I just don’t see it as that worthwhile in that room personally

But I’m also only in 17s

[rare basin]

Same as me then m8. Pushing my 18s now. 5 more left reeeee

[chilly brook]

Get it

Title dream is alive

[rare basin]

^^ let’s hope

[chilly brook]

First season pushing and I def feel like it’s within reach

[rare basin]

Seen a new route for priory 18 sha did. Really wanna try that for a physical comp

[chilly brook]

He post a vid?

[rare basin]

Aye I’ll send you a link

[chilly brook]

I’ll just look, I got him subbed

Monk is like my 2nd highest tank in terms of io rn lol

[rare basin]

As soon as they rework brew I’ll be on that shit

One day surely

[chilly brook]

Ngl though, turbo boost/dinars have kinda killed my desire to play an alt that doesn’t raid

Feels so bad that kills aren’t account wide

[rare basin]

Totally agree

[crude notch]

Bad Luck Protection on a character that didn't accrue bad luck. 🤔

[sinful copper]

You're doing 18s now? Which dungeons do u feel like u need a defensive trinket on?

[chilly brook]

First of all they didn’t pitch it as bad luck protection

[rare basin]

Priory/cinder/flood @sinful copper

[sinful copper]

U just do mud on those or bomb?

[chilly brook]

They changed their mind after communicating what they were going to be

[rare basin]

I use both depending on the key

[sinful copper]

Wow rly?

[rare basin]

TOP i just go full dmg

[chilly brook]

The disparity is bonkers too

[crude notch]

The interview from February 18th with Dratnos and Max says otherwise (:

[rare basin]

Sorry not both at the same time. One or the other depending on key I’m doing

[sinful copper]

Ohhh ok lol. Thought u might run both together. I was like that's crazy

[rare basin]

Normally pacemaker and “insert option here”

[sinful copper]

But mud whenever I need a defensive trinket should be fine for 18s?

[chilly brook]

That’s crazy because that’s not what the interview with Naguura said

Since it was then a “catch-up mechanic”

[rare basin]

Yes bud imo

[sinful copper]

Ty!

[chilly brook]

Idk I’d start using a defensive trinket in 16s but then again my perspective on that is skewed by the fact that I was doing 16s before the massive ilvl boost

So

Probably 17s now?

[rare basin]

Better safe than sorry kinda deal @sinful copper

[chilly brook]

And it’s not really required at a 17 I don’t think outside of specific things

[rare basin]

Especially when your progging and learning a key at higher levels

[sinful copper]

Yeah that's true

I think I have 3 more 16s left

And then I enter 17s

[chilly brook]

I just do it at this point because it means I can be a little more aggressive in pulls and I have more tools to deal with things

[rare basin]

Yep, once your doing 17s somethings will shock you, like the dmg intake from flex flame. (3rd boss motherloade) with a mech on boss

She slaps and trinket is advised

[crude notch]

The catch-up was in reference to the renown track. https://youtu.be/W6EllFQIpOo?si=YsKuXtGrpp6-Xlze&t=407 (:

[sinful copper]

That damage always surprises me...... Every auto without big mitigation almost one shots me lol

And I think I did ML on 16

[chilly brook]

Once again blizzard told us it would be similar to DF S4

They told us it was supposed to be an independent upgrade track in their own blue post

Back in January

[crude notch]

"This could change before launch"

Hm

[chilly brook]

Maybe don’t give specifics then?

It’s just a shit system

[crude notch]

Uh

[sinful copper]

Intended to not be locked or conditioned to certain difficulties

[chilly brook]

They created the expectation

[crude notch]

Ironically people wanted specifics earlier (:

[chilly brook]

Don’t act like we’re wrong for being annoyed that they decided to change their mind after giving us an expectation

[crude notch]

You're right they should've kept it tied to Renown

😠

[elder mesa]

any cheat sheet for gally mythic ego checks defensive using and shi

[sinful copper]

I mean I personally don't think dinars should give myth raid gear if you don't myth raid. Defeats the point of raiding

[chilly brook]

I’d rather have had it been that instead of what we have now lol

[crude notch]

lol what?

[frosty mango]

The fact that dinars are useless for that vast majority of players imo proves it to be a dumb system

Why introduce a system most of the people won’t use

[crude notch]

That's silly

Logic

[chilly brook]

Dinars are mostly useless on my monk

[frosty mango]

Which I do concede it’s useful for a lot of casual players

[crude notch]

99.9% of people won't get the title

should scrap that

[frosty mango]

What does dinars have to do with title

[next pasture]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-2/16201776-19-operation-floodgate
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-2/17441971-19-operation-floodgate

how are these guys skipping bubbles with no shroud/meld? invis pots?

[crude notch]

99.9% of people won't get R1 PvP

[chilly brook]

Unless I go get CE on it when I’m already about to earn it on 2 toons

[crude notch]

should scrap that

[frosty mango]

Those are achievements not systems

[crude notch]

99% of people won't get CE, should scrap that.

[frosty mango]

Not even remotely the same

[chilly brook]

Nice what aboutism

[elder mesa]

its boring that i switch class for the better of my raid group and now my alt cant get mythic items from last 4 bosses

[crude notch]

Has your guild killed Gally?

[elder mesa]

nop

started today

[lucid mica]

You don't know if pwar is nelf no?Rio defaults him as orc because idk why Chinese api thing

[next pasture]

oh, interesting, thought they just both happened to be orcs

[chilly brook]

It’s silly that raiders get access to mythic dungeon trinkets for an investment of 3 hours at most but people in 18s can’t get mythic raid trinkets without a 70+ hour investment in raid

[next pasture]

though i guess invis pot with a dk/sham would work anyways

[frosty mango]

It’s also silly that it’s timegated an additional 3 weeks per piece when we’re already like 19 years into the season

It’s counter to literally everything they’ve done this season to make ilvl more accessible and it’s inconceivable why

[crude notch]

😴

[chilly brook]

They honestly just didn’t know what to do with the system

[crude notch]

I hope next season we don't get any dinars at all.

[frosty mango]

Me too

[chilly brook]

I’d be fine with that

[crude notch]

[chilly brook]

Or it would be best if they’d just figure out a better way to do it

[frosty mango]

Or just don’t

[chilly brook]

No need to cut off your nose

[crude notch]

You're not losing your nose.

[chilly brook]

What you’re suggesting is literally cutting off the nose to spite the face

“Well since you guys don’t like the system, even if it’s implemented poorly and isn’t what was originally pitched I hope you guys just don’t get anything next season”

[crude notch]

I disagree I think it was implemented well.

Expecting DF S4 bullions was a bit silly.

[chilly brook]

You’re allowed to that opinion

[crude notch]

In a non-mickey mouse season

[chilly brook]

Plenty of people don’t share that opinion

[crude notch]

Okay?

Plenty of people also want CoD loadouts.

[frosty mango]

They gave us s4 bullions then implement the exact same system and we are silly for expecting it?

[crude notch]

Huh

[frosty mango]

Why would you expect something different

[chilly brook]

And the opinion isn’t influenced by an idea that those people made it, it was influenced by wording and ideas that blizzard themselves gave us

They used the dinar word

Dinar has specific connotations

[sinful copper]

For my alts, I don't mind the dinars. Grabbing house of cards or mugz's trinket is rly nice. They're the hottest trinkets in game and needed by literally everyone

[crude notch]

Considering that S4 SL Dinars and S4 DF Bullions were actually quite different from each other, expecting it to be something that had never been consistent is silly, yes.

[chilly brook]

They also said it would be just like DF S4

[chilly brook]

Even if it had been SL dinars it would have been better lol

At least you could upgrade those items

[crude notch]

This is closer to SL dinars than DF bullions tbf

[chilly brook]

Except it’s missing the fact that it’s all or nothing

In SL you could buy the item

And upgrade it as you did the content

[frosty mango]

I personally don’t really care one way or the other about the way they implemented it - the outrage it really just due to them locking the best items at the end of the raid and not offering mythic plus alternatives

[chilly brook]

Now it’s worthless unless you’ve killed the specific boss on the difficulty you want the item

[frosty mango]

If there were a 90s on use trinket from m+ there wouldn’t be nearly as much complaining

[crude notch]

expecting it to be exactly the same as two things that weren't exactly the same, logically sounds silly, no?

[chilly brook]

For people who aren’t on gally yet or OAB, if it was SL dinar then a heroic jastor wouldn’t be that bad because you could just upgrade it to myth

But now you just never want to spend on a heroic item and only the myth items that only exist on the last 3 bosses

[frosty mango]

Put delve trinkets on the vendor and make them myth track with the same all 12s achievement

90% of the issue goes away

[sinful copper]

Oh hell yes

[chilly brook]

Why are you so hung up on that point instead of the examples of how the system is bad….

[sharp gale]

I understand why Blizz chose that, but it does suck that they chose this version

[chilly brook]

Or isn’t anything like what was originally pitched

They made their bed

[crude notch]

Originally pitched was something similar to those two things, this is similar to those two things.

[chilly brook]

Except it’s not

[sharp gale]

Pitched as bad luck protection

[crude notch]

Oh can you not buy loot?

[sharp gale]

And it’s bad luck protection

[chilly brook]

Oh for fucks sake

Take John Blizzards balls out of your mouth

[crude notch]

Yikes

[sharp gale]

Dude, I’m not huge fan of dinars, I think they shouldn’t have implemented in a real season in the first place

[crude notch]

Same

[sharp gale]

And

I hate very rare items

[crude notch]

I dislike dinars period. I think this was a fair compromise between no dinars and free loot for everyone.

[chilly brook]

Not even referring to you @sharp gale

[crude notch]

In a non-mickey mouse season

[chilly brook]

This hasn’t become a Mickey Mouse season with all the ilvl inflation?

[sharp gale]

Yeah maybe I took it personnaly I didn’t follow the convo, I just raid off 10 min ago

[crude notch]

Going back to this I agree, they should make getting loot from M+ harder.

Raiders shouldn't have to spam M+ endlessly at the start of the season to get ilvl. They should cap loot per week from keys.

[sharp gale]

Imo they should just improve the vault, when you take nothing you get a token to take 2 things in the next or smth like that, or after X weeks 2 choice per vault

[paper crypt]

4

[sharp gale]

To help m+ ppl

[crude notch]

No more or less than mid-season dungeon tuning or changes to scaling or a circlet.

[frosty mango]

I think they probs originally had dinars as open

[crude notch]

Gained a key level or two for the hypothetical max. Just like most seasons

[frosty mango]

Then realized turbo boost was a thing (help our subs have fallen and they won’t get up)

Then the flip flop on dinars was due to overlap with turbo boost

[crude notch]

Well they originally had dinars as tied to renown 17 and renown 19. Something you wouldn't be getting for almost another two months from now.

[frosty mango]

They don’t wanna trivialize their content

[sharp gale]

Turbo boost is a good idea

[frosty mango]

Disagree, they should just tune the raid

[crude notch]

Definitely re-sparked key participation at least.

[sharp gale]

They already do that

[frosty mango]

Turbo boost is just nerfing content while forcing players to stay on the wheel and spend gold

It’s so blatantly transparent lol

[sharp gale]

Yes so ?

I don’t say it’s not

[frosty mango]

Why not just nerf the content

[sharp gale]

Bc perception is more important than facts

[frosty mango]

I’m not like against it really I just don’t see the point

If you want to retain players release more content

This has been a problem for three expansions

Content stagnation

[crude notch]

Because becoming stronger is always better for the dopamine than "X boss reduced hp 10%."

"Content stagnation"

Do you not remember 12 months of SoO?

[frosty mango]

I would rather have four shorter seasons than whatever….this is

[crude notch]

How long have you been playing Roidberg?

[frosty mango]

Since vanilla beta

[crude notch]

So then you know what actual content stagnation is

And that 6-month seasons aren't

[frosty mango]

And yes I remember soo I was forced to clear it every week for months

On 6 characters

[chilly brook]

Oh 110% more than that lmao. Continual nerfs to bosses in raid paired with a stacking buff that makes the content easier on top of ilvl inflation + new enchants that offer even more performance and a belt that is going to be giving even more performance. Oh plus buyable gear! So definitely exactly like a Mickey Mouse season

[frosty mango]

Guild gotta make that sale gold

[sharp gale]

I didn’t play legion but didn’t content cadence was fine ? I know DF and TWW are the fast expansions too

[chilly brook]

All of that in a season with likely the easiest CE in recent memory

[frosty mango]

And then when I finally thought SOO was dead, and I could rest

We were dragged back in to clear it on the new “mythic”

That tier almost broke me lol

[crude notch]

So then you also remember Antorus being 9 months

[sharp gale]

Thank god raids are not 25 anymore tbh

[crude notch]

And Nya'lotha being 10 months.

[frosty mango]

Just because something was one way in the past isn’t a reason why it can’t be better now

[crude notch]

No actually

It is better now

Much better now

[frosty mango]

It’s a fact that seasons now get to a point where people are no longer engaged and then drag on longer, if it’s no longer engaging wouldn’t that be an indicator that it’s stagnating

[crude notch]

Are 6 month seasons not shorter than 9, 10, 12 months tiers?

like much shorter than last I checked my calendar

[frosty mango]

Soo being 9 months doesn’t make this season being shorter somehow magically better despite lacking content

[sharp gale]

I prefered the perception raid nerfs of bfa tbf

[frosty mango]

Both things can be true

[sharp gale]

I just have to ask you roid to help me understand your stance

What is content to you ?

[crude notch]

Only raid.

and new dungeons

lol

[frosty mango]

Anything the player base at large engages with

[crude notch]

oh no

so only leveling?

[sharp gale]

Okok I understand maybe more

Bc nyalotha was 9 months but it was engaging season for me

[frosty mango]

Most of the repeatable content doesn’t have a good shelf life currently, like most players aren’t like “oh man, timewalking!”

[sharp gale]

And undermined is mild engaging, less flavor

[frosty mango]

IMO 4 seasons with hard cutoffs

OR they set the m+ loot pool and randomize the dungeons

[sharp gale]

Im a borrowed power advocate btw

[frosty mango]

I think it’s dumb but I also think they know how to do it right

Artifact weapons imo were a good system

[crude notch]

Oh no

You're an AP truther?

Is that you THD?

[sharp gale]

Corruptions/ AP, Azerite essence, Even the armor, was good things to wow, just poorly implemented

[frosty mango]

Until the end when they got like kinda repetitive with the 50 point talent thing

[chilly brook]

Corruption was not a good thing for the game long term

[sharp gale]

Bc new = good for players

[chilly brook]

Might have been a fun thing for a season but not something that needed to stay

[crude notch]

Nah AP was bad for everyone that didn't stream.

AP was just there to give streamers something to do with their time

[sharp gale]

Borrowed power meaning it disappear after the expac

And players

[frosty mango]

I think people conflate borrowed power with expansion scaling

[crude notch]

Most players DONT like spamming 809340800 Maw of Souls.

[sharp gale]

But they like upgrading their weapons

[frosty mango]

There’s always a reset on a new expansion it doesn’t matter if your power is borrowed or not, you’re gonna feel weak. When you lose that power from season to season is when it feels really bad

They tried to get it right with cyrces and they kinda missed the mark lol

[sharp gale]

Still felt bad post DF to be at 3% haste, this argument doesn’t matter

[frosty mango]

They really don’t go for superpowered trinkets and stuff anymore, they kinda brought it back in s1 with shit like transmitter and that int one

Immediately backfired

Pretty sure spymasters is still a top 10 trinket for arcane mage

[coarse latch]

😮

i got this for the 4 mythic quest

i did not spent a dinar on it 😛

so nice to actually ge something decent instead of like an amorphous trinket heroic or something

at least for me a 640 new tank

Crafted shield will no doubt be better but I haven't gotten there yet

[unborn island]

I also got it for the same quest 🙂

I won't use it, but it was kinda cool to get a drop which would have been good 🙂

[coarse latch]

Another addition for the mog

[jagged gust]

Istg I've seen nothing but winners outta that chest this week

I've seen 2 bis, 3 hoc, 2 jastors and a few kezans from my guild alone

[lapis owl]

Hey prot war here and im swiching from mountain thane to colossus what is my rotation?

[lapis owl]

raid terms

[frosty mango]

The wowhead guide has a good breakdown

It’s linked in the pins

[lapis owl]

the fact that no one want's to talk about it and says go to guides is low key lame and lazy

[crude notch]

It varies a bit depending on what talents you’re running and wowhead has the cool thingy that lets you pick your talents and it adjusts the rotation on the fly, so that's why it's suggested to check there.

[pallid quiver]

i mean it is the baseline thing to do for the spec, which is what the guide is for

like, you can still clear raid without pressing a damn button as a tank as long as you press taunt, so you can just continue doing the exact same rotation as Thane and be fine if you don't want to do baseline level effort.

||the rotation is the exact same; drop CDs, SS > TC > Revenge, since there's not large enough target numbers. Why are you swapping, anyway; Thane has a better Execute phase on average, where most of the hardest bosses have important execute phases||

[warm plinth]

What's more lazy? Not wanting to repeat ourselves a hundred times a day when it's already written down in a guide someone worked really hard on, or not wanting to take a second to go to a website to find information you already know exists there. 🙄

[lapis owl]

seeing all info on every single ability is annoying

nvm forget i even asked

il shut up now

[pallid quiver]

i don't think you've ever looked at one of the guides

There's a box on there that just lists a priority of abilities under the rotation page

you click a hero spec and go

[lusty grotto]

one of those huh

[sharp gale]

Thane > Colossus after the buffs ?

It’s time to retry 5 masks

[pallid quiver]

did we even get it

it was supposed to be fury only last i checked

[sharp gale]

(Gallywix didn’t die)

[pallid quiver]

And most likely not; it's got a notable damage gap to bridge in most use cases, and survival difference is ??? enough that it's not worth fussing over

[sharp gale]

I believe in Blizz to have put out the buff in the wrong aura of thane and buffing prot and fury, and ww for prot

[nocturne spindle]

ww the new aoe button pog

[lusty grotto]

unlikely

[sudden lynx]

Not lazier than refusing to check the guide my friend a

The wowhead guide is a good start, this place is useful for nuances about the rotation more so than giving a baseline imo

(although I'd say in general terms you'll be hitting thunderclap almost only to apply rend, revenge WAY more often, and ignore pain a bit less since the absorb is bigger now)

[lusty grotto]

between Luerce and you, they should be covered

if they are unwilling to go through the guide

[sinful copper]

[sharp gale]

i'm doing the last dungeon for triple threat as unholy dk ( i never played udk)

[sinful copper]

You guys are so lazy for not typing the guide here for that guy. I'm really disappointed

[sharp gale]

the casual guild i'm squatting outside of mine wants me to write guides but i just sent wowhead page 🤷‍♂️

[sinful copper]

How casual are they where they want written guides when every written guide already exists?

LFR raiders?

[sharp gale]

they killed stix few days ago

in mythic

[sinful copper]

Tell them a one button rotation is coming to help soon

[sharp gale]

they use wipefest a lot, idk if i should tell them

[sinful copper]

U raiding with them on your alt?

[sharp gale]

if they need a replacement and i'm free

[sinful copper]

Ooo

[sharp gale]

yes with my alts

[sinful copper]

Tell them to bring your udk

[sharp gale]

i healed once stix

[sinful copper]

Oh nice

[round cliff]

can intervene save someone from The Recycler on stix

if we miss a scrap master

[frosty mango]

Why reinvent the wheel

Tell them you can’t write guides because trump tariffed European labor

[warped wharf]

I have a 675 crafted shield but got heroic titan of industry in my cache. Do I bite the bullet and upgrade the titan?

[frosty mango]

The crafted is better

Ilvl>all on shield

[sharp gale]

im so bad

[mortal cypress]

🤣

[sinful copper]

Not as bad as the warlock

For high keys (16+), how often are u stacking demo shout and shield wall for DPS CDs?

[sharp gale]

nop

[sinful copper]

Oh no

[coarse latch]

To them you're the fotm dk

[sharp gale]

i have 30 ilvl over the wl

i forgot to summon my ghoul it's important no ?

[coarse latch]

You should also desummon it when you do jumps or it might pull stuff

[sharp gale]

yes it seems important

[frosty mango]

Do you mean how often do you use them for damage and not mit?

[sharp gale]

juicy

[cerulean tusk]

What is this, DPS numbers for ants?

[sharp gale]

my overall

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/kobeni-disgusted-chainsaw-man-csm-eww-gif-27137089

[coarse latch]

What key level

[cerulean tusk]

Season 1

levels

[sharp gale]

a 10, i did 90% of the dungeon not understanding why i can't dark transformation

[frosty mango]

what are we gonna do next tier when MM hits 100% crit

[cerulean tusk]

Be very happy indeed

[coarse latch]

Damn bold

[cerulean tusk]

Happy, please go back to tanking

you are hurting my brain

[sharp gale]

so i only did the last boss with my pet

[cerulean tusk]

you would do more if you went as BDK

[sharp gale]

dont worry im good dps i swear

the dfc 12 i did (no loboz)

[sinful copper]

Yep lol. Or is it terrible to use in a big pull for damage and not mit?

[toxic pewter]

You guys think mop classic may be fun? Was prot warr fun back then I never played prot in mop

[sinful copper]

Like triple pull after first boss priory

[cerulean tusk]

Fun? Sure, for me - no.

[sinful copper]

Like I see my DPS CDs coming up and I don't have avatar but demo is up. Do I send wall too?

[frosty mango]

if you dont feel like youre in danger of dying theres nothing wrong with using wall to send avatar

[sharp gale]

prot pre- clap prot is not fun for me

[frosty mango]

I do that a lot

I'll usually wall to send demolish with avatar

[sinful copper]

Yeah

[sharp gale]

you will play mop ?

[frosty mango]

the cdr on it so so high its very unlikely you wont have it when you need it, if I know I'm gonna need it (like pack before dailcry) I'll hold

[cerulean tusk]

Nah

I didnt play MoP when it came out, and to this day I just dont feel to do so

Didnt even do the remix event

[sharp gale]

i didn't play except leveling, so i might take a deeper look on classic

[toxic pewter]

I only ask because mop sort of does have fun and good vibes in my opinion

May be fun for a change

[sharp gale]

it was my casual only leveling era of wow

[sinful copper]

U take TL over ravager on priory and flood and ML right?

[sharp gale]

i hear a lot mop is peak wow gameplay, so i will take a look ofc

[frosty mango]

Mop was very fun

[frosty mango]

I do not

[sinful copper]

Oh u take ravager on every key?

[frosty mango]

I play mud and keep ravager

[warm plinth]

what is this? What do you have to do?

[sinful copper]

Ooooo

[frosty mango]

I don’t run ravager in top

[sinful copper]

Why not? Top is so free as warrior

[sharp gale]

Every 10s or over on all 3 roles

[frosty mango]

Usually play single target execute spec in top

[warm plinth]

Interesting

[frosty mango]

Most of the key is spent hitting one target

[sinful copper]

Ooooo

[frosty mango]

So I swap ravager for bloodsurge which gets me better rage gen for execute but that’s just a personal preference

I’m sure most people will play ravager there

And tbh that’s prob the better play for most people

[sinful copper]

Have u touched 18s yet? Or working on 17s?

[sharp gale]

And for the class I will play on mop, I trend toward a healer maybe monk

[frosty mango]

15/16 I won’t go past that this season since war isn’t my main

[frosty mango]

Disc priest mop was insanely insanely fun

[sinful copper]

Oh it isn't?

[frosty mango]

Highly recommend

[frosty mango]

No I was relegated to heal, then back to war then back to healer jail lol

[sinful copper]

LOL

Scammed

Tell them that warrior has no healing spec

[sharp gale]

Tbf I might try the healer jail next tier

[frosty mango]

Don’t

Once you are capable you can’t escape it

[sharp gale]

I escaped tank jail.

[frosty mango]

That’s easy

Just be bad

Everyone has a tank offspec

Once you’re a healer they get the hooks in

[sinful copper]

What do u heal on?

[frosty mango]

I was disc priest, then went back to war as arms for like 2 weeks then we lost two healers but gained a priest so now I’m on monk

I usually have four raid ready chars so I just play what they ask

[sharp gale]

Yep but the player with bdk in his pool of class is in tank jail forever

• my replacement is questionable so guild might ask me to tank again

[frosty mango]

I was war for Amir, then tank at start of s4, then priest, then back to tank, then priest, then arms

Who knows

[coarse latch]

Healer jail

I like healing but I am in healing jail for my guild

[frosty mango]

IMO finding a solid raid tank is easiest

There’s not much brainpower going into raid tanking

[solid sun]

Hey mind your own business

What the heck

[sharp gale]

Yes it’s a melee dps with more jobs on some bosses but that’s it, nothing bright

[frosty mango]

It’s true, lol

[solid sun]

So!

[frosty mango]

Skill expression as a tank in raid is dps

Bout it

[solid sun]

I’m trying real hard!

[frosty mango]

So like yeah it’s great I can do 2m dps as the tank but really that skill is much more valuable on a healer, or as a dps that can do mechanics

[sharp gale]

A dps that can do mech a range

[frosty mango]

Melee ain’t doing mechs lol

Can you imagine a melee doing toys on cauldron

That would be so troll

[sharp gale]

Yes that’s why tank is a just melee dps with extras but I can’t find a range spec im enjoying, so I’m chilling in melee seeing everything going on range while I just dodge swirlies

[frosty mango]

I also am not CE raiding right now so I don’t think it really matters

For me anyway

[solid sun]

I've told my group before that I'd be more valuable in raid as a dps instead of tank but they refuse to let that happen

[fathom prism]

hello

how do I stop gally from running away after big circle on M gally

[sharp gale]

do i make another group suffer my udk ?

[fathom prism]

sometimes he stay sometimes he run

[frosty mango]

I haven’t done it on mythic yet but I noticed on heroic sometimes he just does

You’re talking about ego check right?

[sharp gale]

he talks about the cone

that drops the bombs

[fathom prism]

no?

big circle

[sharp gale]

the boss still moves toward the other tank after you taunt

[fathom prism]

BOOOM that tank has to run out with

[sharp gale]

yes

[fathom prism]

how do I stop it

[sharp gale]

you don't

[fathom prism]

wtf this game sucks

going back to roblox

[jagged gust]

Wait he never runs on me

[sharp gale]

i said cone because the animation is a cone sorry btw

[fathom prism]

on mythic

its okay kitten

[sharp gale]

in mythic he is in robot from the start

[jagged gust]

ah yeah, that ain't happenin this season

[sharp gale]

it's that

[coarse latch]

Do it

Should I do enterprising DPS on my feral druid, survival hunter, ww monk, or arms warrior

[spice iron]

Opinion question:
Would it be worth it to recraft rings from double haste in order to gain 10k dps, but lose the QoL of smoother flowing buttons?

[sharp gale]

sorry i'm too kind

[torn gulch]

seems that arcane is not using the leylines at all

[torn gulch]

unless he was like 600 ilvl

nvm then

was that a 10?

[sharp gale]

yes

he had gally mount so it can mean 2 things

[torn gulch]

alt or credit card swiper

using the art of the ATM

[sinful copper]

Yes but how'd they get in your key? Or it was theirs?

I honestly don't stay in keys like that. If a DPS is doing 1m overall, I just leave. Not signing up for boosting for free when I can get gold instead

[sharp gale]

idc about others in 10s, someone could afk

[mighty valley]

extreme feelycraft zone. you'd probably lose a fraction of a percent of defensive value to drop haste in exchange for a tiny dps gain. there'd probably be no major feel difference other than the placebo effect

[torn gulch]

the way i see it is that someone could get to 635-640 in like a day after reaching 80
then he can get into m+
not even putting in the effort to get some ilvl and then wanting to do 10's feels wrong to me
but it's just my opinion

[sharp gale]

you get into these keys bc your friend has a 10

i did too much of these for my friends and myself with worst chars, i get it

[coarse latch]

I was gonna post this today too!.. I had an arcane mage at the bottom and I was at 2nd top. It was a 2 though so imo it's an appropriate place to practice. Doing 10s should be once you actually know your class imo

[cerulean tusk]

Someone does no DPS in a key I can solo carry as a tank? Yeah, I don't mind. Guy is happy, I am happy. Win/Win

I rather waste 3 min extra of my time, than that to accidently ruin the gaming session of a poor low level PuG parent

[sharp gale]

nop because you couldn't learn ramp dps until the mobs doesn't die in your ramp for example

[coarse latch]

Blehh I don't like playing ramp classes

[sharp gale]

you can't start learning healer until damage happens to the group

like 8-9s

and you don't learn trashs if it's tyrannical, you do'nt learn boss if it's fortified in lower keys

[cerulean tusk]

Healer journey:
1-12: OMFG everyone is dying and is on fire
13-16: Huh, nothing to do. Guess I will DPS a bit.
17-20: Lord have mercy! Each tick is 55% of their health!!

[mortal cypress]

Why is discipline supposed to be so complex? Priest was only class I didn't have at 80 so finally used my 60 boost from ages ago on it. It seems OK at least at lowbie levels

[cerulean tusk]

It is all about ramp and CD management to handle the danger. Miss a ramp or CD, doing a bad play? Well, you got no on demand quick fix

[mortal cypress]

Oh... I'm fucked then lmao

[solid sun]

I leveled to 80 on a disc priest

In dungeons

No wipes

I consider this a successful jaunt in healing and now can retire

[mortal cypress]

That's what I'm planning on doing to get used to it

[sharp gale]

ramp healers might be scary but it's not tbf

[coarse latch]

I like vibe based healing, I still like my rdruid, following the raid ramp rotation gets a little stale to me though

[sharp gale]

idk if disc has a panic button / i play resto druid, i can just convoke when i'm scared or failed my ramp

i never really healed in raid, i did a night on stix but that's it

my stix reminder btw (it says RAMP BITCH)

[frosty mango]

I’ve never felt so heard

[slender bison]

Ramping is Voidweaver play. Oracle is more like Holy now. Reactive. Just have to use premonitions at the right DMG profiles and spam smites in between

[slender bison]

Try Voidweaver until 12 keys, you'll find it to be more dynamic and do lots more damage. Oracle is disgusting with the output though

[next pasture]

tonight is the night i've decided MW should be removed from the game

twice now 18 ML has been bricked from MW healer not doing anything to heal me, exact same issue. any other healer i have no problems

[coarse latch]

The only thing I can think of is make sure that you pull the pack to their jadefire stomp, they can't heal well outside of it

Sadly it appears initially and then disappears after a few seconds

[formal wind]

Hey everyone! I just joined this discord. I've been working a lot on trying to get my raid DPS higher as prot. I decided to look at Warcraft logs to see what others are doing and I noticed that apparently the top 49 have done over 3mil DPS on heroic Vexie. Is that actually possible at max Ilvl or is something fishy going on?

[mortal cypress]

this is the dps spec right? I know nothing about priests

[slender bison]

Heal, but with ramps and damage. The original pre-emptive spec

[mortal cypress]

I see, I see. Ok thanks

[pallid quiver]

I haven't bothered with trying to parse this time around due to RNG on tier set, but that sounds about right to me, ngl

Could probably push higher than 3m, even

Especially if you get a dedicated parse farm set and there's adds to pad on/group kills fast/etc. Again, I haven't really thought about parsing this tier, but it doesn't sound out of whack at all to me

[formal wind]

Okay thank you, just wanted to make sure it wasn't fishy. Top overall is at 3.6mil Colossus. Top Mountain Thane is 3.4mil.

[pallid quiver]

Vexie has a damage amp, too, yeah? So if you get lucky on tier set/SD procs, that could also pump you a good bit

[formal wind]

Ooooh okay yeah that makes sense

[pallid quiver]

So adds to pad on+damage amp+good RNG, definitely possible

[formal wind]

Thank you!

[pallid quiver]

In addition to just baseline Prot War dam

[formal wind]

Sick!

[high aspen]

this is pretty easily achieveable

im certain we will see someone do 10m dps on vexie on normal or heroic lol

(not a tank)

[formal wind]

That would be insane!

[grizzled orbit]

why am i doing more dmg with mountain thane in keys :*(

[wispy moth]

Not playing well your demolish in col maybe?

[ionic fern]

Not enough Revenge.

[grizzled orbit]

probly

to much ignore pain

[wispy moth]

You must have more revenge cast than SS in the idea

[grizzled orbit]

worth having a tracker for violent outburst?

[wispy moth]

Maybe to much TC in col ?

[wispy moth]

I do, to know when i'll have a huge and free IP on casting SS or TC

In this case, I know I can spend rage in revenge / exec

[jagged gust]

My DFC route sucks

[grizzled orbit]

first pull in prio

dunno xD

[wispy moth]

For the first it's ok to have demolish like this because the first cast inst stacked

Have you got logs from a whole run to share ?

[grizzled orbit]

do we have any mass interupt like vdh

[frosty mango]

You’ll need a while log and if you’re doing more as thane it’s usually one of a few things

[woeful trellis]

Yes ?!

[frosty mango]

You’re pressing ip too much
You’re not pressing revenge enough/tclap too much
You’re not capitalizing on buff windows for demolish

[grizzled orbit]

witch one 😛 exept shockwave etc

[grizzled orbit]

witch one is buff window for demolish? 😛

[frosty mango]

Disrupting shout, it’s a talent on the prot tree

[frosty mango]

Avatar/demo shout

[grizzled orbit]

oh ppl play that?

[woeful trellis]

Ofc

[frosty mango]

Yes for most dungeons

[grizzled orbit]

what do i sacrifice

[woeful trellis]

I even skill fear if I have 2 casters in grp

[frosty mango]

What key level are you doing

[grizzled orbit]

13s

[frosty mango]

I would drop battle scarred veteran and pick up disrupting

And then I would drop show of force for battering ram

Show of force is probably more overall dps but battering ram will help with cdr and rage on bosses

Then depending on the key you can swap disrupting back to show of force

[grizzled orbit]

cool, gonna try a flood with this

[wispy moth]

Take the talent under mass taunt, it gives a mass interrupt

[wispy moth]

You can remove show of force for this

[slender bison]

It amazes me they added Anger Management as a talent instead of passive or 1st upper node. The class literally doesnt work without it

[wispy moth]

Yeah but historically, AM was in the last row of talents, I think they dont want to change it

But I agree, since the talent exist, it's mandatory

They need to do something about it

[grizzled orbit]

ill logg this run, do i send loggs here whe im done? 😄

[blazing zinc]

Hello, has anyone tried to walk with I'pa straight through a stunned add? Is he gonna consume it or is it safe when the add is CC'd?

[vast epoch]

Pretty sure it still eats it even stunned

[frosty mango]

Definitely not safe

lol

[slender bison]

Mechanics works if boss hitbox merges with add hitbox. So it will still explode, regardless of add status.

[wispy moth]

You can create a thread in #1347646810457636974 if you dont want to lose analysis

[wispy moth]

Dont do that x) dont take any risks for this mechanics, just play safe and do you what you know 🙂 testing something risky like this must conclude anyway in a fail, wipe, rage quiting xp

[blazing zinc]

Thank you! I was mainly curious because sometimes an add was very close so I stunned it and almost touched it which got me thinking 😂 good to know that it's not safe though

[next pasture]

gonna be honest i think there's something to this, i've had drops spawn exactly on the boss, and i stun them, and the boss moves away just fine, but i was dpsing one time and the same thing happened, the drop didn't get stunned, boss ate it and blew up

[blazing zinc]

oh I thought that when the boss is summoning the drops, they're not active until the boss finishes the cast or something, I saw a "trick" at some point where you move to a spot where all 3 drops spawn in the same spot --- this trick wouldn't work if boss was eating them instantly (unless they CC'd them but dont think so)

[round cliff]

damn i thought i was at 4 dungeons for the week im at 3

am i supposed to pug a dungeon at 4am

[jagged pier]

im at 0

[round cliff]

let's do a 10 rn

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[ionic fern]

I'm also at 0.:(

[wispy moth]

Only did 4, didnt have much time

I'm carving from changing my fckin veteran helmet xD

Got everything in hero and myth track but keep my 645 helmet since I hit lvl 80

God bless me

[round cliff]

why not at least get a champ help tho

there's like 17 guaranteed sources of one

that u can go get rn

[wispy moth]

Sure but i'm waiting the vault with 90+ gilded crest to know what to do

I'm not in the hurry

[wispy moth]

I can't test rn, but got question about SB :
Does it have a maximal duration ? For example, if I cast it myself and then SC instantly, how does both SB stacks ?
I saw someone said its stack so dont care just cast SC on CD but I wonder to know how exactly it works (like Luerce explain to me how IP works 🙂 )

[jagged pier]

3x sheild block duration is cap

• 20 secs with bloster being used

[wispy moth]

So you can cap at 45s duration ?
Is it worth to track the duration in number ? For now I'm tracking it with a simple bar, never think about timer

[jagged pier]

the cap its 24 or 18 depending on if ED talented

or 44 or 38 on if u use and press Last stand

[wispy moth]

BS isnt 15s initial duration ? Maybe i'm wrong

[jagged pier]

and u should always be tracking the time of the buff

[wispy moth]

I dont really see a world where I can overcapped, because it'll mean that I usef both stacks + SC, so it'll be a problem

But yes, I'll add timer on the bar

[brave sapphire]

Prepping for 16/17 posf. The only thing i fear is the first boss.

Do i

1. change route a bit so i bloodlust first boss instead of triple pack after + pull some extra into him?
2. change miniboss by going right to Damian. Did some dry runs on normal yesterday. The heatwave should do like ~60% of a thunderclap, so it's manageable. And i found a way to completely avoid his 8 seconds of void of flame. So there won't be puddles while i pull in like 5 footman, 1 priest and a sharpshooter on top of him. (Also they removed the big knight pack and the mdi tool isn't up to date...) And for ~ the last 1/3 of his health there will be enough room to just kite.
3. do the los strat instead. Tried it once in a 16 and died to spear like a dog. (Was a bit overwhelmed with doing it for the first time :D) But it worked quite like a charm to save some cds.

[next pasture]

personally i just run mud trinket + bombsuit and i have been kinda fine on an 18 so far, but it does require healer attention obviously

no lust... because not lusting paladins is kinda trolling

i also don't use revenge much, and just send a lot of rage into IP

[lucid mica]

Pick an evoker 🙂

[brave sapphire]

I started 2 weeks ago. I have a 658 bombsuit and no mud trinket. (Yes, i wasted my first 3 dinars on a crit stat stick 🤡 )

[unborn island]

Run an evoker, be a dwarf, actively use BSV, use Bombsuit/mud/both, plan CDs

[wispy moth]

Crit stats stick ? The pacemaker ?

[brave sapphire]

Are you guys talking about an evoker healer or dps? Because i had like THE single worst experience with one evoker healer in there, while doing the exact same thing as usual.

[brave sapphire]

Correct.

[wispy moth]

Be a dwark is really mandatory ? I know it help a lot but I dont want to pay a change x)

[wispy moth]

That's a bis you know, you didnt really waste dinars. But yeah it can be replace with more defensive trinket when needed

[brave sapphire]

The only mandatory thing is being a nightelf above 17 imo. Floodgate, Mechagon and Cinderbrew are near undoable otherwise. And even if they were easily doable, you won't get into random groups. (My experience at least so far)

[wispy moth]

I agree : evoker heal is pretty low in pug atm. They struggle to anticipate (and thats the way on how the spec is play haha).
Deva is ok, i met some who dealt good damage.
But one time, one tagged in deva and swap in aug at the last second, we all regret it xD

[wispy moth]

When i'll do 15+ it'll be in full premade group i guess

With an easy way to communicate

And my only goal is 3k5 rio, I won't push so far

[unborn island]

If you want 3.5 you need some 17s 🙂

And to clarify, being a dwarf isn't mandatory, just makes it easier

And with the evoker, it can be devastation/aug (although who still plays aug), any evoker can take cauterising flame, and with the amount of bleeds in priory they are trolling if they don't

[wispy moth]

Yeah I agree, I played with one, renewing blaze and cauterising are very helpful

[wispy moth]

Yeah, but I can chose easy 17 :p

[brave sapphire]

and with the amount of bleeds in priory they are trolling if they don't

The ilvl boost made lots of trolls reach 15/16. The amount of DFCs in the last days in which i have to manage the candle, bring in new lights and kick/stun every mob on last boss is too high. Lots of people who got carried in my keys. Started to build my friendslist because of this reason.

[wispy moth]

And sure dwarf's racial help a lot, but 20€ just to take a racial, kinda expensive x) but yeah I regret that I played back my tauren. Far ago it was one of the best horde racial for tanks, now it gives less than 1% max hp, what a shame

Anyone can clarify me why most war tank want to play with resto shaman ?

[brave sapphire]

imo b/c resto + ww >>>> mistweaver + enh. And most pwar are going for phys comp.

[wispy moth]

Making your own network from pug is the best way to know who contact and who ignore 🙂

[wispy moth]

Most run I saw with prot war in 18+ never run with monk, so that's why i'm asking ^^

[brave sapphire]

Well, i'm too uneducated to give a better answer. 😄

[round cliff]

it still is wym

you have an extra stun

that's good

[wispy moth]

Extra stun on only 5 target with cast :/

[round cliff]

it's cast? damn wtf

[wispy moth]

Not useful as a cleanse + dmr for example

Y

Cast, 1m5 cd and affect only 5 target

[round cliff]

still worth binding prob

[wispy moth]

That's why I feel it's a shame xD

[round totem]

im first trying tank, do you recommend me to play colossus? or thane for the simplicity

[round cliff]

1m5 wat

[wispy moth]

Dont worry, others may give more explanation :p thank anyway!

[wispy moth]

1 min 30s cd

[round cliff]

o

[round cliff]

thane isn't much simpler than colossus

and is much much better

[wispy moth]

Take couple minutes on dummy to see what you enjoy most 😉

[round cliff]

colossus is, that is

[brave sapphire]

Also, i know it's bis. Wasted was too strong of a word. But i'd rather have a mythic mud trinket for the next 3 weeks, with pacemaker on heroic. I don't struggle with physical damage at all. Mud would help with tunnel pull in mechagon, priory first boss and all the other dots which are making me fear for my life more.

[round pendant]

BOYS

[wispy moth]

Yeah for sure. Maybe you'll get it in the vault !

[round pendant]

last night I was doing a key where everyone but me was ranged

and my shield block kept having smol downtimes

and my itf stacks were awful

never again

[wispy moth]

Did rookery like this, no one get on me to spread the dot on second boss and refuse to pack with me to help me gather mobs xD

[wispy moth]

Ah fuck yeah, didnt thought about it ...
Maybe in full range comp we must swap itf into hr ?

[sweet summit]

you should pull one more mob then

[round cliff]

i saw a funny motherlode route that pulls a pack into the 1st boss

i wanna be that cool but how do i convince my lead poisoned gamers to do it

or do i just force it upon them

[sweet summit]

don't say anything and just do it

[wispy moth]

Yeah, saw it with yoda on ML20. Never i'm doing it in pug xD

[round cliff]

i dont pug

ever never

[sweet summit]

make your dreams come true

[wispy moth]

Understandable

[round cliff]

i have not pugged a single key this season

and i will not start now

[wispy moth]

I can understand x) sadly I dont have enough teamates to run in full premade

And the only keys I did in full guild was with my enh during our progress. Swap to prot war few weeks ago

When our progress ended and everyone stop playing xD

[unborn island]

I was having to do that in 15s 3/4 weeks ago lol

[brave sapphire]

When i see someone who gets the circle bring back a light, i fall in love.

Does anyone know how i check my voilent outburst usage in wcl? Is there a good way? B/c i think im wasting some.

[round pendant]

Under Damage Done you can click this

that'll tell you what spells you used while you had outburst up

so just look at ss vs tclap/blast

[brave sapphire]

Are ya running BV or Fueled by violence?

[brave sapphire]

56 SS vs 24 TC. i suck 🥲

also ty 🙂

[round pendant]

yep same

[grizzled orbit]

what does BS stand for

[round pendant]

I think he means shield block

that's the only thing that makes sense

[wispy moth]

Yes Shield Block

There is no glossery pinned anywhere ? It can be useful !

[wispy moth]

Why does it sucks ? What difference between spend VO with SS and TC ?

[brave sapphire]

more rage, more damage with SS. Don't remember the exact amount where TC would do more damage, but it's like 10+ mobs off the top of my head, but in those scenarios you would most likely want the extra rage from SS, and the damage isn't that different + there is most likely a prio target anyways.

So basically always use it on SS, is what i got when i read myself into the how to's of pwar.

[round pendant]

pretty much

Thane does it at 3+ on TBlast in aoe

[wispy moth]

Ah ok, I thought you were talking about you're not using enough with TC x) thats why I asked

And ok, I understand

[wispy moth]

Only when tblast up?

[brave sapphire]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Thunder_Blast It's the ability of the thane boys

[grizzled orbit]

is crafting gear worse stats then others?

[round pendant]

only in the sense that it's -3 ilvls compared to myth

and you can get differently weighted pieces rather than 1:1 from drops

[wispy moth]

Sure but I want to try MT so, if I can get information rn, I'm glad

[ionic fern]

Come to the dark side.

[jagged pier]

im playing MT on mugondeez

[wispy moth]

I was playing MT in the few raid I played

But I want to test in m+

[next plover]

imo i like the threat gen of it and it feels good

[sharp merlin]

I'm finding as Prot I need to repair a lot, even when I don't die

Anything I can do to mitigate gold costs?

[wispy moth]

A whole key cost me ~35% durability, dont know if you can reduce it or not

As tank you're always taking damage so it's hard to avoid durability loss

Or just pray to gest indestructible tiertary proc x)

[round pendant]

no

queue for your dungeon satchels every now and then is the only advice I can offer

[round cliff]

bros there's a cute girl i got sat next to in class but im a wow player

im not built to navigate these situations

[round pendant]

show her your rio score

[round cliff]

it's only 3k..

[wispy moth]

Enough to impress I guess

[round cliff]

3k ain't even enough to make it into a normal raid pug no more

[jagged pier]

u say hello

[round cliff]

i can't be only me who thinks this would never work...

[undone beacon]

practice on us bro its okay

[nocturne spindle]

Become a blacksmith and get free repairs on all your gear

[round cliff]

gambling

(not joking)

[wispy moth]

Jokes aside, being yourself is the best way to do. Maybe it wont here, if it so, she's not the one

Only this

Just say Hi to be polite and see if she respond you or not

[round cliff]

u can only be urself once ur IN tho
cuz as of rn ive got no reason to chat other than being in the same room

u know?

[undone beacon]

ew irl advice in my prot warrior discord

[wispy moth]

I know, I know. Only using this for protein advice

wait

[undone beacon]

"ayo girl my shield block uptime... fantastic. My io? thats right baby, 3k. ilvl? through the roof. Transmog? on freakin point girl"

makes em melt every time

[round cliff]

ill try it

[undone beacon]

What worked for me in high school was just wearing enough WoW merch until a girl who played noticed and we started dating

Too bad she ended up being a lesbian kek

[sharp merlin]

How does one do this?

As in, I am a Blacksmith, but when do you get free repairs?

[round cliff]

id wear a horde logo if i could

but i don't think i could make it work

[undone beacon]

BFA Profession Master questline or whatever they called it, gave you a hammer that free repairs all your gear

[undone beacon]

How could you not make it work just slap that thang on a t-shirt and call it a day ya goob

[nocturne spindle]

Invest knowledge points in armor smithing

[round cliff]

perchance

[undone beacon]

that too

[sharp merlin]

Thank you ❤️

[wispy moth]

I learn something hahaha thanks!

[sharp gale]

Go to your school with ashbringer, the ladies always gather around me saying « is that corrupted ashbringer uwu ? »

[solid sun]

Be a blacksmith

[sharp gale]

My guild pays repairs

And as said earlier, gambling

[solid sun]

Also re: impressing someone you find cute or sparking conversation or whatever

Don’t say hello

Follow the same greeting rules as pug m+

You say yo

Any other greetings and they will think the vibes are off and hearth out

[wispy moth]

Act like the bad boy school

[sharp gale]

link mdt route

[wispy moth]

But it was the corrupted or the original???

The world want answers

Did someone say thunder fury???

[solid sun]

Also if you find out they have the archon app you might need a solid parse at a social gathering

If you tell them you’re friends with @undone beacon it increases your street cred

[nocturne spindle]

Tell them you got thunderfury in two weeks

They'll think your cool

[undone beacon]

Damn straight

https://tenor.com/view/bear-gif-13623618

[nocturne spindle]

That's not you anymore

You need to put a bear on top of a head

[undone beacon]

Thats a good one

Keeping it

Most of my saved gifs are cats exploding in a comedic fashion

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-sad-explode-gif-15295996165959499721

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-fish-pogging-currently-gif-2252544987340524926

[solid sun]

Pash are you friends with BAER

Y’all have some similar energy in discord

[undone beacon]

Don't know who that is I will admit

I just linger in spaces sometimes

[solid sun]

He’s part of the guardian Druid discy channel

[round cliff]

is game up

can i open my disappointment box

[nocturne spindle]

Post boxes

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-digging-rage-angry-trash-gif-15500222

me opening my vault each week

[nocturne spindle]

very important warrior question nome

whats your fav warframe

[jagged pier]

nekros

[nocturne spindle]

[lusty grotto]

what is this bear spam i just logged on to

[sinful copper]

Where vaults

[lusty grotto]

🗞️ 🗞️ bad bear

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-exploding-gif-18403884229748594041

[lusty grotto]

[nocturne spindle]

games dead

warframe chat now

[undone beacon]

this is actually a dedicated deadlock server

[lusty grotto]

im playing enshrouded

until night reign

and then supposedly next week, arc raiders is coming out

[nocturne spindle]

cmon nim play warframe and be mad at all the shitters there

[lusty grotto]

and then the week after....

dune

[slender bison]

Enshrouded is Valheim's little neurodivergent brother

Based

[lusty grotto]

also next week switch 2, which im holding out on for now

too many fucking things coming out

[undone beacon]

never heard of enshrouded but hearing it described like this intrigues me

[lusty grotto]

its a survival builder kinda thing, valheim has more engagement on your bases, this one doesnt but you get to do dungeons and shit

like v rising too

[slender bison]

Enshrouded has Voxel building tech

But no water

Cringe

[solid sun]

I’m almost finished with this V Rising playthrough

What should be my next game since wow is in maintenance mode

[slender bison]

The Planet Crafter

[solid sun]

Never heard of that one

I was considering enshrouded since I never finished it and I think it got an update?

[slender bison]

Dopamine goes brrrrrrrr

Like Satisfactory

[solid sun]

I could also just choose to play Dota 2 again

Kinda depends on how much self loathing I’m into I guess

[undone beacon]

I just picked up Picayune Dreams which will keep me entertained for at least a week

[lusty karma]

For M Gally prog, trying to pick between Myth Seaforium, Heroic Kezan/Bombsuit/Tome, right now defaulting to Seaforium/Kezan

[undone beacon]

Long fight, Kezan prob gets the most value

[sinful copper]

What u guys think of grabbing the magic reduction talent and TL for high motherlode?

[lusty grotto]

enshrouded into dune awakening in 2 weeks

which is what im doing

[solid sun]

I don’t think my pc can run dune sadly lol

[lusty grotto]

is it older than a 3070ti and a ryzen 5900x?

cause thats what i have

[solid sun]

Oooooooh yeah

[lusty grotto]

hmm...

well it didnt feel badly optimized

enshrouded is also ue5, but is optimized well enough, so i guess you can try it

[lusty grotto]

Tome/Kezan is probably best

just ST sim and go with that

obviously bomb suit wont do anything that the sim would consider, so thats only picked if you need the defensive option in that fight

[slender bison]

What's dune awakening? RTS?

[lusty grotto]

since its damage is minimal

Survival

mmo-like

[lusty grotto]

i would say its a waste

[slender bison]

Damn, need to scratch the Valheim itch and my sub is dying soon

[lusty grotto]

its more pvp oriented for end-game resources though

and no private servers or SP

[slender bison]

Bleh

So GaaS

[lusty grotto]

im hyped i loved the beta

just do enshrouded honestly, its pretty good if you havent already

lots of content

[slender bison]

You guys playing Legion Remix?

[lusty grotto]

likely

[slender bison]

The combat animations drive ma crazy. Doesn't feel good

Like when you jump

Or hit stuff

The building is solid

Super complex

[lusty grotto]

uhhh

i wasnt impressed with the building

i come from Ark so i was expecting more, considering Ark's was ass before mods

the first ark, not the cash grab engine thing they did

[slender bison]

We'll more complex than Valheim for sure. Which is Unity

[sharp merlin]

When should we drop the Circlet?

[slender bison]

Didn't play Ark, heard bad things

[lusty grotto]

when other rings sim better

[nocturne spindle]

when something else you have sims moreeee damage

[sharp merlin]

Best way to sim?

[lusty grotto]

ark was good after release

[sharp merlin]

5 targets?

[nocturne spindle]

1 target 5 min 5 target 1:30

[lusty grotto]

normal sim is fine

[sharp merlin]

sweet

ty

[lusty grotto]

5 target is for keys if you wanna know burst etc

2,500 hours

[sharp merlin]

Snoop dog

plays it 😂

[lusty grotto]

i didnt buy Ascended, fuck that shit

rebuying the game for an engine upgrade is garbage

maybe when its 5 bucks

[sharp merlin]

Sick, my two rings outdps it

thank you good sir! 😄

[lusty grotto]

[chilly brook]

ARK bad

[nocturne spindle]

ark has the stupidest mechanics

[chilly brook]

Minecraft gud

[round cliff]

game up?

[nocturne spindle]

its fun til yo uwant to grow some big dino and the default rate is like

[lusty grotto]

eh fuck minecraft

[nocturne spindle]

2 days of constant attention to an egg

[lusty grotto]

i aint touching that shit

[chilly brook]

10am PDT aka in 39m

[lusty grotto]

zoomer garbage

[chilly brook]

wut

[lusty grotto]

minecraft = zoomer garbage

i didnt stutter

[chilly brook]

IT WAS RELEASED IN 2009 BROTHER

[nocturne spindle]

bro youve been here

[lusty grotto]

and its full of zoomers

[nocturne spindle]

how are you falling for nim bait

[chilly brook]

I grew up with Minecraft in HS

[lusty grotto]

i aint touching it

[frosty mango]

Nim sounds like a zoomer tbh

[sinful copper]

Really? I was thinking of grabbing it for priory and ML to deal with the magic dmg. Especially in ML, it's so painful when everything does a ton of magic damage.

Yoda put out a talent video for prot warrior and he mentions that it's very helpful in those, but most people here are against taking the magic reduction talent

[frosty mango]

Early adopter zoomer

[lusty grotto]

ask your mom

c:

[frosty mango]

Def zoomer

[nocturne spindle]

nim types however he thinks will piss someone off

[frosty mango]

Zoomchip

[sinful copper]

I know he's doing 21+ keys, but for me, the personal difficulty is like that level lol

[chilly brook]

Also the "zoomer" version is the non java one

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[chilly brook]

java minecraft based

[frosty mango]

Nim def elder millennial

[lusty grotto]

not interested

in blocky garbage graphics

nor will i ever

[chilly brook]

I'm technically a millenial

[frosty mango]

He’s got that “the world is on fire this is fine” ennui about him that only elder millennials have

[chilly brook]

old as shit

[lusty grotto]

its yoda, do you really think we'll coincide with his takes?

[nocturne spindle]

every big crafting game should have a late game version of storage where literally every item fits

and if it doesnt have that

trash

[sinful copper]

Iunno, why wouldn't we?

[lusty grotto]

what magic damage kills you in ML?

[frosty mango]

He’s got a stream tho and he said it authoritatively

[chilly brook]

Tbf Plka did it for ML

[lusty grotto]

peacekeepers you can reflect and spell block

[chilly brook]

the last 2 bosses

suck ass

[lusty grotto]

is it Rixxa? cause thats the answer im looking for

[sinful copper]

The bosses

Even last boss hits hard too

[lusty grotto]

uh huh but

[chilly brook]

mostly Rixxa

[frosty mango]

Rixxa is predictable so is last boss

[nocturne spindle]

its like a baby dps loss to take

[lusty grotto]

rixxa's damage profile is so predictable

[nocturne spindle]

if your bottlenecked on a healer check and not dps

worth to take

but are you at that point?

[lusty grotto]

last boss you reflect on cd for big dam

and spell block as well