protection

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-exploding-gif-18403884229748594041

debating between buying a tome and a weapon on the bear

already went myth tome for warr

[lusty grotto]

i dont think that gif will ever not make me laugh

its so stupid

[undone beacon]

i need to get nitro just to make it my pfp lmfao

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[coarse latch]

i did my first time ever tanking in tw level 58

almost died

[sick sentinel]

should i use last stand if i go big too or rly just when my health drops and i realize i need the 30%

[lusty grotto]

there isnt really a specific case, but the latter might be a good pick

its also good to use victory rush / impending victory during it

since its HP based

and IP since its cap goes up with total HP

[undone beacon]

i didnt play prot in s2 of df, did ppl like the last stand based tier or nah?

[mighty valley]

it was fine? pretty strong

[lusty grotto]

yeah it was decent

[mighty valley]

not exactly rich gameplay, you just played bolster and pressed last stand on cd

[urban portal]

last stand is inherently not a good defensive

requires a bunch of external stuff to make it decent

[lusty grotto]

[mighty valley]

it's a relic of old world tanking

[undone beacon]

just wondering if baking that bonus into a talent on the tree would make LS more interesting overall or if it would just be a bandaid on a bullet hole

[mighty valley]

i don't think we need more medium cds we press every time they're up

[undone beacon]

fuck u i want three more of em

last stand, first sit, middle squat

[mighty valley]

press em in order like ffxiv

[undone beacon]

i actually want them to be empower spells like evokers have

[lusty grotto]

anyone know if there's a way to hide cell if youre on tank/dps ?

[undone beacon]

and each one buffs the next

[lusty grotto]

or where's the option to do it

[undone beacon]

I was told by guildies that use it that there isnt one but

I kinda doubt

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[undone beacon]

Apparently Quazii's cell profile has some code for it

[lusty grotto]

yeah but quazii's ui is running only on it

im using it on healers, but i have to manually disable it every time

for tanks and dps

[undone beacon]

ah gotcha

hmm, then yeah idk

i dont know if theres a native feature to disable for certain specs

[coarse latch]

how much harder does time walking tanking get at level 70?

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

it scales so 🤷‍♂️

you will just have more talents

[spice iron]

Just checking, is House of Cards and Tome our two go-to trinkets, with Bomb Suit as our defensive option in harder content?

[lusty grotto]

tome + pace

or HoC + pace

or pace + bomb suit

HoC is in the dinar list because its not farmable, except for once a week

[spice iron]

Any general guidline when to pick House of Cards over Tome vs other way around?

[lusty grotto]

Tome is better in ST

they are interchangeable though

HoC is better for on demand burst, so any bosses that have damage amps favor it like Vexie in raid, or Momma, Voidstone, Coin Operated Crowd Pummeler, etc

Platinum Pummeler, etc

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/bis-gear#trinkets

and read the explanations

[spice iron]

I do have the explanation up, but it really doesn't give very nuanced information when the only words of value you have to go for is "extremely potent"; "very powerful"; "the best"; and "extremely powerful"

[lusty grotto]

it really doesnt matter

any combination of the 4 trinkets is good

[spice iron]

Sim does say that House of Cards and Pacemaker are my best options for AoE, and Tome + Pacemaker/House of Cards are essentially identical in single target

[lusty grotto]

how are you simming AOE

[spice iron]

5 bosses 1m30sec

[lusty grotto]

ok good

then you go with the sim

[spice iron]

And single target as 1 boss 5m

[lusty grotto]

right

[earnest cove]

Check the layout options in cell and disable it for non healer roles, right side of the tab

Layouts can be chosen for roles, spec and content you are in

[delicate coral]

i can get myth track seaforium would that be better to get then Heroic House of Cards?

[lusty grotto]

likely

its higher on our list in wowhead, so yes

means it sims higher

[lusty grotto]

found it, thank you

[earnest cove]

Why not use it as tank too? Just curious

[lusty grotto]

i have everything set up on elvui

i dont want to migrate stuff

really dont need it

i just started healing again after a huge while so i figured i would move to cell since vuhdo is a nono

or outdated

[earnest cove]

Fair point

[stuck glen]

gettin back into tankin, I should build up colossal might stacks before sending demolish right?

[still lintel]

Send it!

[hardy python]

is the different in rage generation between crit/mastery/vers noticeable?

[ocean smelt]

No

Ilvl first as prot war really

[dusty grove]

is there a weakaura to track the magic hits rixxa fluxflame, she's super scary when i play prot

[round cliff]

look at ur health bar

if it gets chunked u got hit

hope this helps

[keen vine]

all her hits are magic damage

[mortal cypress]

Who is rixia flux flame

[desert pond]

Third boss motherlode I reckon

[grizzled orbit]

at 630 what build shud i run to do those +10s?

[jagged pier]

what ever build your comfortable with

[mortal cypress]

ah ty

[grizzled orbit]

isnt there a more defending build?

i managed to tank ++10s was abit hard 😛

farming those crest is anyoing at low ilvl

just notice i dont have the 658 rnig 😮

what quest in the island is for the ring?

[scenic flower]

sim

[grizzled orbit]

is this right

[jagged pier]

yes

[urban socket]

isnt that pre-nerfed Legendary Skipper and didnt we swap to highest secondary stat gem?

[patent scroll]

Yeah I would go full secondaries on the ring

Can always just sim as well

[barren mica]

Hi everyone I usually play tank DK or DH sometimes paladin too. I'm starting to approach Warrior protection.Following the guides sometimes I run out of rage or any Skill to press. I apply Always be casting to every class I play. Is the warrior different or am I doing something wrong?

[grizzled orbit]

is this viable

[safe kestrel]

While still leveling prot does it make sense not to have high uptime on SB or am I missing something

[patent scroll]

Yeah, leveling is ultra scuffed for a lot of specs, most tanks included

[safe kestrel]

What specifically makes level 80 have 100% uptime possible?

[ocean smelt]

Haste

[patent scroll]

Haste, this talent helps until that point

Also the +2 seconds from Enduring Defenses

[jagged pier]

your mostly likely overspending , or doing somthing incorrectly

but cant tell without logs

[safe kestrel]

I'm just following the Archon prot build and that one has "Into the Fray" instead. I guess that's mostly for higher key levels?

[wicked pollen]

gm jakey

[wicked pollen]

you play that with haste and tier

[mortal cypress]

Jake it til you make it

[toxic gyro]

All you really need is hr talent.

[ruby elm]

how do you log e.g mythic+ dungeons etc...? so i can check my parse?

[sharp gale]

https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/help/start

[ruby elm]

ty

[sharp gale]

Basically you enable something in network, then you type /combatlog to turn on (we mostly use an addon for that), when you finish your dungeon if you don’t live log (I don’t) you open wcl in your game and upload the latest log

Dont’ Forget to delete your logs on your computer after uploading them / or once a while, because they can take a lot of space

[ruby elm]

that true, thank you. I want to see when i start doing m+ and raids how well i play the spec 😛

[umbral falcon]

Anyone having issues with resto druid hot aggro when gathering larger pulls? Had some issues when I can’t tag all mobs immediately that they instagib the druid due to hot aggro before I can catch them

[solid sun]

Not really, and I don’t think Resto HoTs are crazy aggro generators, so even if they started healing me earlier than necessary and a couple mobs aggroed onto them, seems like a tclap or a roar or even a revenge would solve the problem

[sharp gale]

You don’t necessarily need to log yourself for the raid because there is always a government spy among the 20 dudes, but for m+ you have to log yourself bc almost no one does

[solid sun]

Are you noticing it all the time or only in really big pulls or what

[mild river]

I got FD 17 and i'm no NELF. It's imperative to start using skips at this level, right?

[patent scroll]

Maybe if the Resto has Natures Vigil up? 🤔 But yeah shouldn't be an issue any bigger than other healers usually

[sharp gale]

Imagine your route takes 10% more time bc next key lvl, if you had 10% remaining in 17, you will time the 18

[toxic gyro]

Fighting shit like bubbles on 17 would be troll af. Or mini bosses in top.

[sharp gale]

You scrap time by removing pulls / if you can’t find somewhere to delete a pull then bubble skip it is

You also have to account bubble will do 10% more damage, maybe your healer will cry if you do bubble then sleeping guy with the casters after him

[frosty mango]

No, but if other dps are going in while gathering and the Druid is not standing near you they may overtake on the gather which is what I expect you’re seeing

Aka the “starfall dilemma”

But one tclap should be enough to prevent that

[umbral falcon]

Only big pulls where I can’t hit everything with tclap or roar. For example first room in Workshop

[umbral falcon]

Don’t really have that issue with dps as the ones I normally run with know to wait until they’re somewhat gathered. It’s only specifically with resto druids and rolling hots during large pulls

[frosty mango]

Charge first pack, clap, charge second pack, revenge, leap to third pack and clap, body pull fourth pack and revenge/clap as you converge to center

Roar as they all close in

I usually aoe taunt there too

[umbral falcon]

I resort to aoe taunt to ensure the healer doesnt die, but optimally I would like to keep it for bomb casts. I pull similarly to how you say, but there’s usually a couple of the further back mobs which are not hit with clap or roar

[frosty mango]

That pull in particular is pretty shit, I usually bring a mm hunter for work and flood

But you can get it all you just have to be aware of your tclap range

Doing it without getting hit in the back is the hard part

[sharp gale]

You can mass stun if you really want to secure aggro, keep the mass kick for the casts

[frosty mango]

I just did it last night without a hunter and it wasn’t bad but I can see how it might be tough if you don’t have a lot of gather experience playing colossus on war

It can also help if you tell all your ranged to stand on a marker

That’s how we handle floodgate - ranged stands in one place then packs all converge to a known point and it’s easy for you to get all the threat because you know where they’re going

[umbral falcon]

Yeah, guess the hots just highlight any flaws in my pulls better than direct heals

[tribal wharf]

if its up to me, most times i take a priest or paladin healer

depending how well they hit time hitting fade/bubble

doesnt druid have some drop aggro shit? could just be rogue brained lockpicker

but i think druid >cat > stealth> vanish?

even thought that is wrong

[frosty mango]

If the healer is getting aggro to the point they die it’s a tank problem

[tribal wharf]

also name

[lusty grotto]

ok yogi

[tribal wharf]

im serious

shield charge in dark ages vs oof my head

which by is like 80% the way there anyways the 2nd one

[patent scroll]

The only case where healer aggro isn't your issue is on the first pull of Priory if some Boomkin/Hunter decides to camp at max range and manages to get the sharpshooter jumps there

[frosty mango]

Genuinely still not an issue tho

Just heroic throw them as you move in

The dps might die but then they’ll be back in you

Hunters do be max ranging though

I’m forever pinging hunters

[lusty grotto]

i have had more hunters come to melee than any mage or ele shaman

in the past i would agree with you but idk what changed lately

[coarse latch]

I wish I could say it's because more people were playing survival but it's not true

[round pendant]

fotm mm hunter pickers have actually been pretty good

genuinely shocking

[red otter]

How big a loss is not playing spell block nor spell deflect? (I hate them)

[fierce raptor]

Massive

[lusty grotto]

huge

spell block is a huge defensive

its so big, that you shouldnt use wall with it

crit spell blocks can be 100% DR

[fierce raptor]

Spell block is worse ams but still crazy good

Well maybe not worse ams bc it has reflect

[lusty grotto]

if RNG favors it

huh

spell block doesnt have reflect

[fierce raptor]

Spell reflect my b

Not spell block

[lusty grotto]

oh

i mean its a 25s cd

vs 1 min

and can reflect, 20% MDR without reflecting

so i wouldnt exactly say its worse, its just different

[fierce raptor]

Yeah true

Do spell reflect/block interact with aoe spells?

[lusty grotto]

they can

depends

MDR on SR does

reflecting depends

if it has travel time it always works for reflecting or deflecting

Spell block, it depends if its spell blockable or not

[wicked pollen]

hi i played a fun build yday

[lusty grotto]

but most dangerous shit this season, if not 90% of it, is spell blockable

can take a look at our sheet

which is pinned

which fun build lol

[lusty grotto]

that being said "hating" SR or even spell block... is a new take

i dont think ive heard it before

[wicked pollen]

who hates spell block

wtf

[lusty grotto]

why would you play that

[wicked pollen]

damage

egoing keys

[lusty grotto]

why

[wicked pollen]

ego

[lusty grotto]

no battering ram with our tier

[wicked pollen]

rav more damage

in aor

[lusty grotto]

TL isnt doing anything for you

wdym

we play rav regardless

[wicked pollen]

what is tl

[lusty grotto]

thunderlord

[wicked pollen]

oh

aligning woth demolish

helps align

[lusty grotto]

it aligns still

[wicked pollen]

big modifier

[lusty grotto]

no

not really

youre desync'ing it

[wicked pollen]

what i swear it never aligns without

[lusty grotto]

look at your cds

[wicked pollen]

i also havent spammed prot

[lusty grotto]

demolish comes up first and demo+avatar are literally less than 10s behind

without TL

[wicked pollen]

usually its other way

[lusty grotto]

that shouldnt be

[wicked pollen]

demo like 5s before demolish

[lusty grotto]

untalent TL, talent battering ram

[wicked pollen]

im prob doing bad

[lusty grotto]

youre scuffing yourself, our tier is built around SC

[wicked pollen]

i think its still more aoe

but ill try

if i play again and remember

[solid sun]

HR instead of in the fray is a dps loss too isn’t it?

[lusty grotto]

thats our build

[lusty grotto]

no

its only DPS loss if youre talenting it when you already have the required min haste

but its not if you dont have the min haste

[wicked pollen]

ik thats the build

i just dropped everything to do damage

[lusty grotto]

talenting TL is a dps loss

the only reason you want it, is for the DR on extremely high keys

Nome did the sims very early in the season

our standard build is the highest dps

for aoe at least

[round pendant]

eh not using spell block isn't a huge loss until higher keys

I don't use it enough and I do fine

[lusty grotto]

huh

oh you mean the other convo

they might as well get used to using it, its a defensive

[round pendant]

yeah it's worth learning a few spots in each dungeon to use it

cause it's op

[lucid mica]

Yo, at any point do we need to skip the pull before azerokk? I got super destroyed bc i never drop stacks (my bad obviously) but it was just a 15 like how tf do i live this in a 17

[wicked pollen]

i cant really pick much else for more damage

[wicked pollen]

ps and kite

[round pendant]

but there's lots of keys where I just don't press it cause I'm bad and never bothered learning those spots

and it's still fine

[wicked pollen]

and soothe

[round pendant]

but not recommended even by me

[wicked pollen]

i forgot to pick rend

but still

[lusty grotto]

soothe

[lucid mica]

Im nelf

[wicked pollen]

ik i have enough sb uptime with hr alone

[lusty grotto]

enrage soothe

also parry

stop wearing versa

[wicked pollen]

pretty sure dropping 2nd wall is a lose if i use with demolishes

[lucid mica]

Im at 2% versa hahaha

[lusty grotto]

enrage soothe

and run on jumps

[round pendant]

This season has so much spell blockable stuff but most of it is targetted stuff that just tickles the tank anyway

[lucid mica]

Aight will do!

[lusty grotto]

spell block is massive enough that you should respect it

[wicked pollen]

surely more demo roar uptime is better in aoe vs battering ram

[lusty grotto]

that and the SR MDR is the reason we're not "weak to magic" anymore

[lusty grotto]

no

[wicked pollen]

but am i right in hr for less uptime

or equal

[round pendant]

What are some of the most important spell block spots in your opinion

for me it's like

cinderbrew

[wicked pollen]

big momma

[round pendant]

big momma

[fierce raptor]

big momma

[frosty mango]

Big momma

[wicked pollen]

i think thats the only time i press it lol

[round pendant]

shield on second boss priory

[lusty grotto]

final stings

[wicked pollen]

huh

[round pendant]

but that hardly hurts us anyway

[frosty mango]

We almost had a big momma Yahtzee and you guys ruined it

[wicked pollen]

wdym 2nd boss priory

[lucid mica]

Big bots in ML

[lusty grotto]

youre not doing high enough keys yam

[round pendant]

you can spell block the castigator's shield

[wicked pollen]

theres no way thats relevant damage

[frosty mango]

Spellblock is also huge in work

[round pendant]

can also spell reflect it tho

[frosty mango]

You can spellblock the second boss aoe

And stand in it like a masochist

[round pendant]

why would I do that though

lmao

[frosty mango]

Uptime

Why wouldn’t you

[lusty grotto]

i just stand still on kultharok too

line frontal? spel block

[round pendant]

some uptime but it griefs the shit out of the healer getting the dispel

[frosty mango]

No it doesn’t there’s no dispel during the aoe

[lusty grotto]

Rixxa

[frosty mango]

If the healer hasn’t dispelled you by the time the aoe comes out they trollin

[lusty grotto]

ML last boss

Work last boss

[solid sun]

I’m pretty sure I only survive Rixxa because of spell block

[frosty mango]

Spellblock is goated

[round pendant]

leap -> dot -> aoe, if the healer has trouble topping people up they can be a lil late on the dispel

[wicked pollen]

what is rixza

[lucid mica]

3rd boss ml

[wicked pollen]

ph

that

that hurts

[frosty mango]

If the healer is struggling to top people after the leap in a key of any meaningful level then they shouldn’t be there

[solid sun]

Yam may be a little skewed on the perspective because they have been doing a ton of keys with a holy priest

No shade no shade

Offering context

[frosty mango]

Oh yeah

Well that’s your problem lol

[round pendant]

nah I only gained this perspective after healing at 630ilvl

[frosty mango]

Holy priest may be the only healer that struggles there

But holy is dog water for m+ anyway

It struggles everywhere

[round pendant]

nah it's fine

[frosty mango]

No it’s terrible, objectively

It’s the only healer who has a mastery that has zero functional impact in m+ and you’re basically playing your spec with one arm because of it

You have no kick, no dr mitigations, no group wide recover, you have to stand still constantly, your main “cooldown” is shit, I could write an essay about how garbage the spec is in m+ comparatively

Just because Jeff Gordon can win nascar gold in a go kart doesn’t mean a go kart is great for nascar

Similarly just because a few savants do well with Hpriest doesn’t mean the spec is fine in m+, the data tells us overwhelmingly it isn’t fine

[round pendant]

what do you define as "do well"

[frosty mango]

3400+

[round pendant]

lol

[jagged pier]

buddeh thinks top .9% is doing well

[frosty mango]

But playing it at any key level, while viable, doesn’t change the fact that relative to other healers it’s just poop

Completely lacking

[round pendant]

so holy is objectively dog water because it struggles in the top 1% of content?

[frosty mango]

No it’s objectively dog water for all the reasons I listed above

[round pendant]

I mean it's objectively not built for m+ and should be buffed/tweaked because it's weaknesses are awful

[frosty mango]

Fair. More so I guess I’m saying when people who are at that level or point to that and say “it’s fine” that’s not valid

[round pendant]

Healer balancing is always scuffed but it's like saying pwar is unviable because we were like 3rd or 4th in a couple seasons

[frosty mango]

Yeah but Hpriest isn’t the same as pwar

[round pendant]

There's fuck all pwars at 3400 too compared to vdh

[frosty mango]

It’s mastery is breaking the class for m+

And blizz can’t buff it without Making the class completely broken in raid

That’s horrible design for a healer and it’s why holy has been poop in m+ for like ever

[round pendant]

I am a certified holy priest hater btw

I just don't think it's not viable

it just feels like shit

[frosty mango]

I didn’t say it wasn’t viable

I said it was relative to other healers poop

How do we measure “fine” if not relative to other healers.

[round pendant]

though I guess it feels bad if a spec isn't doing so hot because of numbers and not because something else is seen as the meta

like pwar vs vdh

pwar is more than capable at doing 3400 but all the people wanting to go that high just pick the fotm

😔

Holy is just playing on hard mode

[frosty mango]

Tbf there’s 10 times more pwars at 3400 than Hpriest

[round pendant]

I think that's just because hpriests can just change spec

rather than making a whole new class

[frosty mango]

I don’t think so, maybe a little

But it’s been the least represented spec as a whole in m+ forever

[round pendant]

yeah I mean holy sucks

[frosty mango]

Pres may actually be lower currently

[round pendant]

but for like kujo leap before dispel

I struggled at 630 in a +7 to top people up

and the tank los'd me

[frosty mango]

As holy or disc

[round pendant]

as disc lmao

holy would have been easier in fact

but I'm undergeared

[frosty mango]

You shouldn’t struggle there even at 630, unless it goes over 4 leaps in which case I guess maybe

But that’s in a 7 and I’m talking like 16+

[round pendant]

ye I mean I'm objectively bad at healing

just saying I felt like I was getting a bit griefed by the tank by him sitting in the aoe

[frosty mango]

Just need more gear to carry your dps brethren

If the tank is eating the aoe and needs healed then yea he’s griefing you lol

[round pendant]

My friend got bottle service on holy btw

0 issues ever since

They simply need to make that ability a holy priest ability

[frosty mango]

Trinket is goated for m+

For every spec imo

It’s super nice on mist when you gotta get out of melee

[round pendant]

It fixes the major weakness that holy has

you can move and aoe heal up rot damage

it's so nice

[frosty mango]

It does an obscene amount of healing with high haste

[round pendant]

holy feels like it's just missing one cd (espescially if you don't play oracle)

[frosty mango]

My monk has 30k haste and with the focus tea haste buff I’m getting like 30-34m healing

[round pendant]

giga

[frosty mango]

IMO they only need to change three things

Make divine hymn channelable while moving

Change the mastery to be dynamic, so it applies echo during evangelism and does something else while not, like flat healing increase or renews or something

Give holy a choice node to make chastise a kick

The fact that a trinket is just divine hymn with a lower cooldown and 4x the healing is kind of nuts

But I digress this is the prot channel not the holy channel

[round pendant]

yeah I agree

my friend refuses to play disc yet complains every season about how holy always sucks

lmao

but it's not like it matters, none of us care to go further than the rewards

[patent scroll]

Hey there was at least a season in SL where holy was good

[vale escarp]

doesnt holy deal big damage atm? atleast at +13 the look fine

[round pendant]

big dam, terrible burst aoe heals (poh being decent again helps a bit), runs out of gas super fast and has terrible mana issues

[frosty mango]

Probably the most of any healer but you have to stop healing to dps

Which can be hugely problematic

[round pendant]

would be nice if holy fire had like a penance-like thing

where it'd spread heals to friendlies

maybe cast holy fire on friendlies for a nice hot that spreads damage to enemies too

could be fun!

[frosty mango]

I think the primary issue is holy nova is your main dps filler and requires you to be in melee

[round pendant]

honestly, delete holy nova

[frosty mango]

Give holy purge the wicked and have holy fire spread it

Then no holy nova needed

[round pendant]

my friend would hate that

I support

[next pasture]

has anyone here run 17+ ML with a MW monk? i've done 17 ML to help friends a couple of times now and never died to third boss, but i had a MW and i could not stay alive, i even had to overlap wall, last stand, and bombsuit for one phase of autos...

[frosty mango]

I ran a 16 with a mw we bricked (but not because of him)

Rixxa is shit no matter what but he didn’t struggle to keep me up there

[patent scroll]

I assume this isn't that MWs first time in high keys?

because if it is, the playstyle changes quite a bit for MW when you go high enough

because you have to actually use your amps

[lusty grotto]

obligatory: did you use spell block

cause it def isnt mentioned there

[next pasture]

yes lol. i've done 17 ML before

[lusty grotto]

okay just making sure

[next pasture]

we also had no brezzes because he died twice during trash

but my health straight up was not going up, hence the triple overlapping defensives

[frosty mango]

If you weren’t using cooldowns properly that would make it very hard for a mw in particular to keep you alive but at that key level he would almost certainly need to hardcast you during her damage phase

If he’s just slamming melee it’s not gonna be enough

[next pasture]

yeah, i know for a fact he didn't cast anything

[patent scroll]

Well, depends on the health of the rest of the group

[next pasture]

that's what i was wondering, like if he had to actually cast something

[patent scroll]

AT works kinda funny when you have less than 5 damaged targets it can heal

[lusty grotto]

i thought target count dependency was fixed for MW

[next pasture]

i pulled the machine with the boss so maybe that's why?? everyone else needed healing so i got none?

[lusty grotto]

oh wait youre talking about friendly targets

[patent scroll]

Last I checked it was still in for AT, as in it will always heal 5 targets worth, even if there are less than 5 damaged targets

[frosty mango]

I usually rem>soothe>em>Viv the tank there but if they pull the other mob there too I always cocoon the tank during the aoe and chiji and dump vitality into heals

But yeah if the monk was not using brain it could be a very tough fight for you

[dusky canopy]

Your moms a friendly target

HAH GOTTEM

[frosty mango]

Not to him

[dusky canopy]

Poor momma Nim

Always getting shit from brew

Smh

[round pendant]

god I kinda wanna do higher keys but don't fancy pugging

need to get my 5man back together

[frosty mango]

It’s 50/50

I have some groups that are like sim players and just silently crank

[lusty grotto]

listen you better be taking her to nice dinners

[frosty mango]

And some groups where the 3300 dps never kick and press no defensives and then flame the healer when they die to standing in consecrate in psf

[dusky canopy]

Of course appledz special

[round pendant]

In my experience pug healers are fine

it's always the dps players throwing

and then yeah, flaming the healer lmao

[patent scroll]

Ah, you haven't seen me heal

[round pendant]

but then the highest keys I've done this season are 13 so

[frosty mango]

I have gotten some really good troll flamers lately

[dusky canopy]

Get resil 13

Then get 14

Then get 15

Ez

[round pendant]

Yeah or me:

[frosty mango]

The best one this week is the guy/girl couple in cinder who said “this isn’t how they do it in the mdi” when tanking ipa and I said “dps are also doing more than the tank in mdi”

[round pendant]

lmao

[frosty mango]

Poor girl she was very mad and said some mean things to me

I admit my response my toxic

[dusky canopy]

The moment when people think there pug 12 should be pulled like the mdi teams

[patent scroll]

I mean I'm up for some time trial/MDI pulls

[round pendant]

I kinda just w-key'd my way to 3000 this season so didn't bother learning any skips or better routes

[unborn island]

I think it's a reasonable response, someone throws shade, throw back

[patent scroll]

They always without a question end up with a dead team though

[round pendant]

so I don't think I can get to all 15s

cba learning

next season when

[unborn island]

Tbh at this point you can probably w to 15s

[frosty mango]

I mean I didn’t say shit the entire key, your boy is doing great dps I’m down to carry you

But don’t shade me

When you’re doing 2m overall at 675

[dusky canopy]

The only thing stopping you from timing all 15s is not knowing what will kill you without a defensive

Can do W routes and time 15s

[frosty mango]

Just being a disc priest that does know

[dusky canopy]

People do giga damage now

[round pendant]

I'm fine for not dying

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[round pendant]

literally nothing has been hard so far

[frosty mango]

I don’t think people really understand how much damage people are doing

[dusky canopy]

Like it’s actually insane damage

[frosty mango]

A good mm hunter or dk is easily pulling 35-45m burst on a fat pull

And 10-12m reg

Trash literally just dies

[round pendant]

You guys have puggers doing damage?

[dusky canopy]

As the tank you have it made just form a group with a uhdk/boomkin/mage/or MM

[frosty mango]

At 12-15 yeah

[round pendant]

my last key had a dude doing 900k overall

[dusky canopy]

And they’ll turbo nuke everything

[round pendant]

my last 13 had a guy doing sub 2m

[frosty mango]

Replace the boomy with mm for easy win

Can’t lose threat when the dude misdirecting you is doing 25m dps

[frosty mango]

Are you doing sub 12

[round pendant]

yeah that was on my disc yesterday

[frosty mango]

12s are the sweet spot right now

Everyone farming crests

Once you hit like 650 or so

12 might be tough at 630 because the tank is gonna yolo pull it

[lusty grotto]

idk 650s have problems in 10

[frosty mango]

I pulled four packs with the last mini boss of priory last week the healer was very upset

[round pendant]

I ain't going higher than 10s on my priest, just doing it for the chieve

[lusty grotto]

i know cause nimchipadin has been dunking 10s and redoing 9s this week

[frosty mango]

He couldn’t tell me how upset he was until it was all dead

But he was upset

[round pendant]

lmao

you got his adrenaline pumping

he didn't appreciate that

[frosty mango]

Man up wuss

He did fine

No one even died he was a champ

[round pendant]

I definitely feel my ilvl being low in 7s tho

with people not using defensives and kicking things

it's a struggle to pump people to full sometimes

[frosty mango]

If you’re oracle it can be

[round pendant]

yeah I'm oracle

[frosty mango]

Don’t be afraid to pop premonition and slam radiance if you gotta

[round pendant]

wonder if VW is just easier til I gear up a bit

[frosty mango]

It won’t be

Ultimate penance is great for topping too

[patent scroll]

Just shield them for over half their HP

You got a day to lift their HP

[frosty mango]

The heal spread premo with upen basically full tops

Then double radiance also can do some aoe work

And your weal stacked penance too

You’ll get used to the tools the more you play

[round pendant]

it's kinda annoying how smite consumes weal and woe

[frosty mango]

The hardest thing for me as disc this season was understanding recover, knowing what to press to react

Like knowing I gotta send double radiance or people will die and then trying to unfuck the rest of my rotation as a result

This is why I enjoy pwar

Far less thinking involved

[round pendant]

I hate bad tanks as disc

They take up so many of my shields that I could use on myself or a squishy dps

and make everything harder

[patent scroll]

See there's a very easy solution for that as disc

Just don't spend the shield on the tank outside of busters

If they die they die

You go next in 5 seconds

[round pendant]

see the above

that's what happened when I did that

[patent scroll]

[round pendant]

Yeah I'm slowly learning what to rotate and when

feels satisfying af when I perfectly reverse some aoe dam

but then other times the bars just don't move

[slender bison]

Heal priory 12+ first pull with Suleyman and knight, and you'll learn more in that fight than anywhere else

[jagged pier]

theres 0 reason to do that pull on a 12

[slender bison]

Idk, good disc practice

[round pendant]

It's a pretty easy pull though

the miniboss before the last boss hurts more and you've got to do that anyway

[slender bison]

Did you do it or just theory about DPS and tank playing perfectly?

[round pendant]

I've done it as tank

idk healer pov

[slender bison]

I'm talking as disc

Since you said you wanna learn

[round pendant]

was just speaking about the necessity of the pull

[slender bison]

All pug tanks will do it after 12. So heal smart

[solid sun]

Wouldn’t you do that pull in a 12 to start practicing that pull

[patent scroll]

I did that pull the very first priory (think it was 8?) I ran on my warr

[slender bison]

We're talking about disc pov not tanking practice

[patent scroll]

As a healer I've had to deal with that pulls ultrachad version already

Crazy 3 AM russian tanks

But it worked

[slender bison]

What I'm trying to say to @yam is that disc is cool until you reach some specific pulls like priory here or big guys hall in rookery. And them you learn the hard way that you need more practice to heal

If you consume X2 premonitions too early your pug will most likely die

[solid sun]

The whole group practices pulls though no

[rugged plinth]

Sure others have figured it out by now but I can do Sidestreet Sluice in just over 4 minutes on t11. Which means 45 runed crests every 12 minutes which convert into 15 gilded every 12 minutes. Is kinda boring and grindy but works. Nice for when you dont have the boys on for +10s or higher

[lusty grotto]

who was the person that was arguing with me about "mole people" again?

ah yes it was the cat

@cerulean tusk mole people reporting in

[solid sun]

I don’t even have +11s unlocked. I don’t even think I have 6s unlocked actually

[lusty grotto]

thats ok

funky was just saying mole people dont exist

wait till we have to get the belt lmao

[cerulean tusk]

Are these 'mole people' in the room with us now? Don't worry Nim, take your pills, you know they will go away again after.

[ocean smelt]

Bro was shocked to see that people with Brann level 80 exist, meanwhile mine has been 80 since three weeks ago and I wouldn't even consider that I do a lot of Delves lol

[lusty grotto]

#protection message what about this guy

[lusty grotto]

just wait funky

you will have to become a mole person too

when the belt hits

[cerulean tusk]

Sounds to me like there are more than one person that forgot to take their pills

[ocean smelt]

😂

[lusty grotto]

lol

oh funky never change

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-kitten-cat-pets-animals-gif-15170160

[round pendant]

I will never play delves

other than when I need to for the belt

but other than that, NEVER

[frosty mango]

Arby’s coming for the gamers

[grizzled orbit]

is it enought to spam those +10 to gear alts? im 630

[lusty grotto]

should be ok

if you have a hero shield you should be fine

[nocturne spindle]

i did some rat 10s at like 620 on my alts

if you know what your doing in the role youll be fine

[lusty grotto]

indeed

[rugged plinth]

Oh I dont fault you it isnt the most fun. I generally do the 3 11s a week with the wife and thats it. But im needing some gilded crests and no one is on Monday mornings.
Its very easy.

[mighty valley]

yeah you'll probably have to run your key up, i imagine pug gamers are pretty picky at this point in the season

especially since massively geared people are crest farming 10s to TURBO BOOST

[lusty grotto]

they wont be

cause anything under a 12 has tank shortage

[mighty valley]

damn, thought there'd be an influx of alts this week

no one wants to work tank any more...

[lusty grotto]

i had my key as healer for like an hour

waiting for a tank

then i had my key as dps for like an hour

waiting for a tank

on nimchipadin

because obviously im never doing consecration gaming

[round pendant]

yeah it's insane how tanks just don't exist <10s

[lusty grotto]

even in 10s

[solid sun]

Re: mole people belt

I know… I’m less than excited

Also I still tank 10s for weekly vault keys. If you need a tank just ping me

[sharp gale]

they exist for 4 keys below then they are spamming 10s

[round pendant]

wait do we know what we have to do exactly to get the belt

[solid sun]

Some kinda special delves

[round pendant]

as long as I don't have to unlock more tiers

[solid sun]

Overpowered delves or super juiced delves or whatever they’re called

Overcharged Delves. That’s what they’re called

[nocturne spindle]

belt stinky

no stats all damage

well actually has like

trinket esque procs for stats

but still hate it

[lusty grotto]

how do you even know

[candid cove]

The previews of it. I mean its still ilvl main stat gains.

[lusty grotto]

i see

it has armor and main stat

so not stinky

[candid cove]

Yeah. it's gonna be bis and a nice stacking crit or haste proc

[round pendant]

Prefer belt slot over ring tbh

[mortal cypress]

carls jr > arbys

[solid sun]

None of it matters to me unless getting the belt sucks and if it sucks then I hate it

But after I get it if it’s bis and helps make me suck less then I will love it

[round pendant]

god what's the fastest way to do the circlet world quest thing

[lusty grotto]

kill the event bosses

and the rares

[jagged gust]

Trick your child/nephew to farm it for you

[patent scroll]

I just do the quests while doing any events that pop up

[jagged gust]

Works for me

[patent scroll]

and buy the gems on main

[solid sun]

You can also not get it and craft two rings

Idk how poor that strategy is but if you really don’t wanna get it, it’s an optionnnn

[patent scroll]

I just replaced it with an upgraded hero ring, so yeah

[solid sun]

Shoot my bear doesn’t have it and I just been vibing in keys

[lusty grotto]

i mean its free uppies up until 658ish

less crests you gotta farm, runed crests

[round pendant]

better than my 619 ring

first buncha gilded are going on a weapon

[frosty mango]

Both of them are gross

[mortal cypress]

most american "restaurants" are, yes

[frosty mango]

Basically all fast food is disgusting with the exception of a few things imo. Both Popeyes and chick fil a have decent chicken sandwiches, outside of that I guess Wendy’s has an ok burger but given the prices of these places you’re better off just buying a whole ass meal at a real place

[lusty grotto]

here we go

[frosty mango]

America is goated for bbq tho cmv

[solid sun]

Why is restaurants in quotes

[undone beacon]

bear doesnt have what?!

[solid sun]

Do you think we don't have actual restaurants in America?

I'm so confused

[lusty grotto]

cause he couldnt type fast food

[jagged gust]

I've traveled the world, pretty much nothing beats American bbq

[undone beacon]

In America you either eat worm and dirt or you eat macdongle burger

[undone beacon]

woaw based

[mortal cypress]

no, it was that like especially in the midwest, fast food chains are "restaurants" for some reason

american food in larger cities is amazing

[nocturne spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

im sure this will be a nuanced discussion

[undone beacon]

"american" "food" in larger "cities"

" "

[mortal cypress]

i mean im just gonna be picked on now, so i will be quiet

[frosty mango]

“Larger”

[undone beacon]

brother I dont contribute anything meaningful here unless someone starts talkin about guardian druids

[lusty grotto]

🗞️

[frosty mango]

I’m pretty sure I tell people daily to macro ignore pain to thunderclap /s

[lusty grotto]

down bear

bad bear bad

[undone beacon]

raaaaa

i press thrash

[lusty grotto]

🗞️ 🗞️ 🗞️

[solid sun]

Do you press Thrash or "thrash"

[undone beacon]

Sorry, i "thrash" and then i hit "mangle" and then "fucking die"

[jagged gust]

No no, they listen to thrash

[lusty grotto]

hold up

[solid sun]

Oh, thrash "metal"

[lusty grotto]

if they listen to thrash

youre ok with me pash

[undone beacon]

:D

[nocturne spindle]

hey nim

wanna see a log

that will give you double cancer

[lusty grotto]

now im just curious

[undone beacon]

12% shield block uptime or i riot

[nocturne spindle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:VMYqr4Kx8hXPR2TW?fight=12&type=damage-done

[undone beacon]

THE 0/0

[lusty grotto]

lmao

what the fuck

[undone beacon]

I was like, 12/22 damn thats not too good, then i kept scrolling

[undone beacon]

this has to be a bit

[jagged gust]

So they pressed 2 buttons the entire fight?

Oh 3!

[remote anchor]

4

[jagged gust]

Good for them

[lusty grotto]

i mean besides going into the prots

holy fuck that entire group is terrible

[undone beacon]

this is my new favorite log

im gonna put this on my wall

[lusty grotto]

a kill is a kill

but oof

8 mins too lollll

they almost had 2 lusts

[jagged gust]

See this is the average person's experience with warriors tho

We need to remember our humble beginnings

[lusty grotto]

ngl this is a gold mine of a log

[nocturne spindle]

my favorite part

is i thought he was mountain thane

because theres no demolish damage

[lusty grotto]

LMAO

at least the first one demolished

but no outburst....

[solid sun]

What does 0/0 signify

[lusty grotto]

afk

[undone beacon]

it means they did bad in general and bad for their ilvl

and by bad I mean, not playing the game bad

[solid sun]

Oh, the parses

[undone beacon]

The other prot being 12/22 means he at least hit some of his buttons LOL

yeeee

[solid sun]

Gotcha

[lusty grotto]

at least they blocked

~70% ish, but still

i was thinking they wouldnt press shield block

was pleasantly surprised

still bad though

[jagged gust]

One button rotation can't come soon enough

[undone beacon]

how are you active for 99.63% of the fight and still hitting numbers like that

[solid sun]

How did you come across this log

[lusty grotto]

this has to be an alt run or something

[undone beacon]

avg ilvl 666.8, which i guess doesnt mean much anymore but

man, this made my day

thank u weeshy

[solid sun]

One day I will be able to throw stones

I mean, I'm better than this, but in comparison to others I might as well be this.

[cerulean burrow]

how do we find amount of hits blocked ive been curious for a while now and keep forgeting

[dense mango]

i want to try out prot warrior but stance dancing sounds incredibly unappealing

[solid sun]

Well we don't

[ionic fern]

There's about 0 of it.

[undone beacon]

Stance dancing has been dead for years

[jagged gust]

Stance dancing is kinda dead

[undone beacon]

Other than minor optimization ig

[dense mango]

you don't?

[ionic fern]

No.

[lusty grotto]

no

[undone beacon]

nah

[jagged gust]

Not since this xpac no

[ionic fern]

Just sit in Defensive Stance.

[dense mango]

wait fr

[lusty grotto]

we did in DF

not this expansion

[undone beacon]

Dstance doesnt have a damage penalty anymore

[orchid mural]

def stance all the way.

[dense mango]

OH SHIT FR???

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[dense mango]

damn wowhead get ur shit together

[nocturne spindle]

they removed all d stance damage reductions

[undone beacon]

@strong forum called out

[nocturne spindle]

you basically dstance unless your parsing

[lusty grotto]

we... write wowhead

[ionic fern]

You can still min-max with Battle Stance if you want to.

[jagged gust]

Nome defend your honor

[lusty grotto]

where did you see this

[ionic fern]

It's still like 3% Crit.

But that's about it.

[round pendant]

Yeah, it's OUR guide

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

[lusty grotto]

yes yam

OUR

we're all to blame if he finds something

[undone beacon]

man, nothing galvanizes this discord like stance-dancing

everyone fuckin crawled out the woodwork

[lusty grotto]

cover your asses

[jagged gust]

I like that word, galvanizes

[nocturne spindle]

hey

[undone beacon]

thanks, its a good one

[nocturne spindle]

i was here posting logs before this

[round pendant]

Technically it is more optimal to be in bstance if you're not at risk of dying

[dense mango]

"Camping in either stance permanently is typically not the right way to play. Instead, you want to swap back and forth as the situation dictates."

[lusty grotto]

i think that's pretty clear

its more raid oriented

[nocturne spindle]

naw its very much implying you should dance

[pallid quiver]

I'll dance on your stance

If you know what I mean

||I don't know what I mean||

[nocturne spindle]

which is not really true

[round pendant]

but it's so minor and in higher keys there's basically no scenario where you wanna give up 16% dr

[lusty grotto]

"when you're not actively tanking" is the key phrase here

[round pendant]

which you "should" in raid or low keys

[lusty grotto]

as in...

never in keys

[nocturne spindle]

i agree it could be re-written to actually explain its a minor optimization now

[lusty grotto]

and sometimes in raid

[dense mango]

it should say that then

[lusty grotto]

thats just common sense

[undone beacon]

to be fair that is a bit of nuance that gets lost on a lot of guide readers

[lusty grotto]

is there any moment in keys when you're not actively tanking?

[round pendant]

"or the content you're tanking isn't dangerous" this applies to keys <10-12

[nocturne spindle]

it just needs a sentence at the beginning

[lusty grotto]

cause there isnt

[dense mango]

you got me

im a dumbass

[lusty grotto]

the only scenario youre not actively tanking is on tank swaps during a raid

thats it

[undone beacon]

you're safe here, we are all dumbasses

[dense mango]

true

[nocturne spindle]

as long as you are not the 0/0 owner

your better than someone

[urban bane]

last boss in rookery

:P

[jagged gust]

I used to think you had to cover shield block downtime with shield wall, we all swim down here buds

[round pendant]

not me

[undone beacon]

but yeah, if stance dancing is why you dont wanna prot, you dont gotta worry

[round pendant]

I'm a god gamer

[solid sun]

This seems like a fair sentence that covers the confusion here imo

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats why i mentioned the key phrase thing

[solid sun]

The person doing the tanking will have to decide if what they're doing isn't dangerous,

We can't tell them that because we don't know their situation.

[mighty valley]

i think my favorite part of this log is the two revenges

just at two random points during the fight they were like. "hmm i'll try this on for size"

[undone beacon]

I don't disagree, but playing devils advocate... people (esp those new to tanking) don't always understand what is or isnt dangerous, and dps brain compels them to OPTIMIZE BIG NUMBIE so they ignore the nuances

I've watched new prots stay in bstance all key and fuckin die

and refuse to swap

[nocturne spindle]

big momma dot is a healer issue stay in b stance

🙂

[undone beacon]

you're so real for that

[urban bane]

Slip into bstance during the damage amp on first boss in motherlode. Last boss in rookery. Things like that. These things won't ultimately matter, but if you're wanting to be technical, they are more marginally more optimal

[undone beacon]

i actually only hit buttons that do damage so like

[sharp gale]

I only bstance in raid

[undone beacon]

ignore pain? never

[nocturne spindle]

coward last boss in rookery is all b stance

dodge the buster

no balls

[undone beacon]

shield wall? try shield slam

[mighty valley]

yeah. ignore stances til you're comfortable playing prot warrior. then when you've got room in your brain, find some free damage moments when you feel like it. why not

[undone beacon]

Last boss rook I just stand there with my thumb up my ass for 5 mins while the dps weep

[dense mango]

im completely new to tanking so

[solid sun]

"Sorry you're going to have an add" is my favorite part of the last boss of Rookery with my friends.

[nocturne spindle]

tbh for the longest time ithought it was just a visual

[patent scroll]

I started the key in BStance, died because I played like shit, finished the key and remembered that I had BStance on

[dense mango]

maybe ill try it in legion remix who knows

[nocturne spindle]

and it was always gonna hit you

[undone beacon]

I wouldnt try a new role in a remix mode tbh

I tried to learn healer in mop remix, big mistake

[lusty grotto]

thats actually impressive considering the game auto puts dstance on you

[undone beacon]

huge gaming

[urban bane]

yeh as others said, sitting in dstance you'll be fine. won't be missing out on much. if you get comfy you can do more with it but those gains are pretty slim

[undone beacon]

you'd think, but people are obstinate in the weirdest ways

[jagged gust]

Taught me to love shadow priest

[undone beacon]

shadow priest

[jagged gust]

Its like boomie but somehow easier

[undone beacon]

grab a shield, pick an easy route, and jump into a +2. Gotta start somewhere, its really fun once you get the hang of it :3

[dense mango]

im new to tanking in wow specifically

[round pendant]

you're an ffxiv player

[dense mango]

ive done it in FF and I've come to kind of loath it in WOW cause of enemy gathering and the aggro system

[round pendant]

you already have an advantage over beginner wow tanks

[lusty grotto]

ok i got this guys

[round pendant]

(you'll actually press your defensives)

[dense mango]

idk why people never press defensives

its free gameplay

[lusty grotto]

ffxiv agro is literelly smooth brained wall to wall

in dungeons at least

[nocturne spindle]

press shield slam always> dont take back shots>win until you have to actually learn some stuff at like 12+

[lusty grotto]

wow does require more effort

[jagged gust]

It's kinda hard to pick up defensive usage at first

[lusty grotto]

but in the end its the same

[dense mango]

i play outlaw rogue so my defensives are off gcd

[lusty grotto]

you wanna max dps as tanks in xiv

[dense mango]

because i play the best class in the game

[lusty grotto]

you wanna max dps as tank in WoW

more dps = more agro

thats about it

[dense mango]

i hate aggro

i played HC classic

[jagged gust]

This is a fact

[dense mango]

so fucking annoying

[lusty grotto]

well i suggest you dont play tank

[nocturne spindle]

youll hate it here too

[round pendant]

Aggro is kind of a nobrainer in wow nowadays

classic aggro is way worse

[lusty grotto]

cause that's kind of the thing here

[dense mango]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[jagged gust]

Classic aggro was a nightmare, fuck that shit

[lusty grotto]

yeah for real

[dense mango]

like why do I have to get bombs to tank

is this the gameplay everyone glazes

[nocturne spindle]

its not nearly as bad as classic

[lusty grotto]

this feels like a troll

[round pendant]

yeah bit of a bait

[nocturne spindle]

but its annoying on big pulls

[lusty grotto]

yeah very baity

that last one was... telling

[dense mango]

what?

[round pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[dense mango]

nah im talking about tanking in classic

im not baiting here

[lusty grotto]

guy is in the balance so

[dense mango]

dude

im not like..

[lusty grotto]

so at least the xiv thing pans out

[dense mango]

mmo tribalist

i swear

[lusty grotto]

now thats bait

[round pendant]

lmao

[undone beacon]

lol

[lusty grotto]

alright time for my teams meetings

[nocturne spindle]

ignore nim

[dense mango]

[nocturne spindle]

hes just trying to fight

[jagged gust]

[nocturne spindle]

he does that with everyone

[round pendant]

anyway tanking in retail isn't much different to ffxiv

[undone beacon]

Nim will literally kick u in the shin

for fun

[round pendant]

other than you don't pull the entire instance in retail

[lusty grotto]

i only fight with trolls

[round pendant]

not true, you fought with me

[nocturne spindle]

no you fight with everyone

[lusty grotto]

im doing skyhold a service

[nocturne spindle]

shutup

[undone beacon]

he hit me with a newspaper

[jagged gust]

He did!

[round pendant]

yeah nimchip the abuser

[jagged gust]

I saw!

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-exploding-gif-18403884229748594041

[nocturne spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-saved-the-city-spongebob-squarepants-we-saved-the-city-gif-7879261153627679688

[round pendant]

@dense mango If you press thunder clap and your dps don't pump early you'll have no issues maintaining threat as long as you press your damage buttons in general

[jagged gust]

Guys were gonna get peepee slapped if we gif too much

[dense mango]

writing the google dock on nimchip rn

[dense mango]

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-meme-leave-bye-exit-gif-16666403

i understood that google doc reference

too much xiv drama for me

[dense mango]

???

[undone beacon]

the biggest threat issues I have is our guilds fury warr and ele shaman fuckin running ahead of me, blasting packs, and then getting confused when they get aggro

[dense mango]

google docs are for every drama nowadays

[lusty grotto]

well i guess youre right

[jagged gust]

Anyone else have questions or can we dive in to xiv drama lore

[dense mango]

milk then cereal

or cereal then milk

[undone beacon]

milk is gross

[jagged gust]

Milk with cereal?

[dense mango]

you raw dog it?

[undone beacon]

i raw dog everything brother

[jagged gust]

Orange drink, obviously.

[nocturne spindle]

cereal is for kids or boring adults

which one are you

[sharp gale]

What about farts ?

[glad jacinth]

Bombsuit hero track or mud mythic?

[undone beacon]

when i was a wee lad my go-to was dumping Honey Combs cereal into my coffee

[jagged gust]

Mud really good in priory and floodgate, not sure where else

[undone beacon]

typically bombsuit

[jagged gust]

Bombay it good in general

Bombay it, even

Damn you auto correct!

[nocturne spindle]

if you killy gally h regularly

id vote mud anyway

prettty easy to get a bombsuit

[glad jacinth]

i dont raid

[undone beacon]

:3

[nocturne spindle]

oh then bomb