Dunno if you will need speed but it's worth a try
#protection
lusty grotto
Gotta run, jump down and inmediately leap to the lower platform
As long as your group iso on the lower platform, there should be no issues.
Throw glaive is what? 40 yards? So as long as you get close enough to 40 yds to the other platform and don't drop below it's altitude..
Seems Hella risky though
lone current
Yeah not sure if that % is in the risk vs reward range. I'll try it out when i'm on later. And might even try to see if the hunter disengage has the range
lusty grotto
Try it on an m0
Or a heroic even
Anyway, if anyone knows it's Sense
Feels like SL old tech, but I quit in SL so I'm unfamiliar
I would try it but I gotta 
round cliff
do u get honor if u obliterate a lvl 77 as a lvl 80
silent void
Is Tome of Light's Devotion a must have for prot raiding and m+ ?
errant heath
What's the best way to choose from your vault for a tank? Do you just use raidbots and take the best dps increase?
round cliff
What's the best way to choose from your vault for a tank? Do you just use raidb...
most of the time theres a common sense answer
u pick the best item, from the list of known best items
when in doubt sim
u take myth tier if u dont have it
etc
errant heath
Choosing tank gear based on a dps sim just seems weird to me, but I'm new to tanking so shrug
round cliff
if ur new to tanking ur probably not doing content where taking defensive trinkets is necessary
so u do more dps
earnest cove
Stats don’t matter, as all stats are good for defensive purposes. So you tend to optimize your dps.
blazing zinc
Hello, many people had issue since S2 start where sometimes their game would freeze for a few seconds. This happens to me too but only rarely. 1x it happened recently at 1st boss in Rookery (pulled 1 pack with it), and then it happens once in a while...
Does anyone know if someone figured out the cause(s)? I saw someone recommend replacing DBM and using BigWigs instead but not sure if it really helped them or if it was just lucky... does anyone have any idea please? It happens very rarely but in m+ even that can be super unfortunate...
Thank you very much! 🙏
drifting juniper
round cliff
wtf no
frosty mango
But it’s shiny
frosty mango
Hello, many people had issue since S2 start where sometimes their game would fre...
This is well known and it’s due to boss mods and/or weakauras loading custom sound files
It’s a problem with the game itself
jagged pier
Literally never had freezes, small freezes are mostly likely an addons or weak auras
frosty mango
It’s been pretty well documented at this point
jagged pier
I mean i dont have weak auras outside of raid, and run like 3 addons and dont fet freezes
frosty mango
Something to do with how the game loads and plays custom sound files
jagged pier
So that would indicate its an addons or weak auras tbh
frosty mango
Well only those things play custom sound files
patent scroll
I do run quite a few addons and WAs that technically have custom sounds, yet I cant recall the last time the game froze and it wasn't because of a random driver crash
frosty mango
But the issue itself isn’t the addon it’s the way the game handles the loading of the sound
Not game freezes, prob more accurate to say lock up?
Game locks up for like 5s then you’re good
Well you’re probably dead but the game doesn’t crash
round cliff
Game locks up for like 5s then you’re good
details caused this for me
patent scroll
That doesn't happen to me either
frosty mango
“It doesn’t happen to me” isn’t really a valid argument for something that is widely documented by tons of people
It does indeed happen to many people and the sound thing was boiled down as the most common denominator, along with that addon profiling nonsense they introduced too
Either way here’s a big Reddit thread full of handy info
patent scroll
Fwiw, I can't recall hearing anyone complaining about anything similar that wasn't caused by shitty WAs or unupdated addons in our whole roster 🤔
hazy dagger
Hey, just started gearing my warrior, i mainly want to play Arms but enjoy tanking too.
Bis stats for arms is Crit / Haste, for prot warrior it says theyre all close but you can do Haste / Crit.
I got alot of gear with Crit / Haste on, as you can see by my stats.
Is it bad to have such low Versatility?
frosty mango
Hey, just started gearing my warrior, i mainly want to play Arms but enjoy tanki...
Nope
As long as you have enough haste to keep up shield block with in the fray talented you are fine
And before that you can just play heavy repercussions
tardy sequoia
Hey, just started gearing my warrior, i mainly want to play Arms but enjoy tanki...
just wear the highest ilvl piece of gear
frosty mango
There are no bad secondary stats
tardy sequoia
basically more stats > better stats
hazy dagger
Okay thanks! and yeah i have been just wearing highest item level.
just happens ive had all crit / haste gear lol
and ive crafted crit / haste
lilac widget
hey guys
once i get tome from dinars will my bomb suit be obsolete, or can i use both
ive heard tome is both def and off so im clueless rlly
frosty mango
Depends on the key and level
Tome / pacemaker /bomb all have a place in the rotation
storm pine
Question, should prot warriors be looking to replace - Cyrce's Circlet
calm trellis
why are chinese warrior playing eye+house? dont u have to be in combat the entire dung for eye to be better than other trinks?
random cedar
Can anyone recommend what's the better trinket to get with dinar, pacemaker or tome?
calm trellis
I get the house of cards, bcz thats the best offensive trinket right? even tho its on hc. I just dont get the eye of khezan
willow edge
why are chinese warrior playing eye+house? dont u have to be in combat the entir...
Theoretically yes. Practically, don’t care what the Chinese are doing to have noticed.
I’d prob use house of cards and Bombsuit
willow edge
Can anyone recommend what's the better trinket to get with dinar, pacemaker or ...
Think wowhead has a list of “buy this item if mythic version”
calm trellis
I’d prob use house of cards and Bombsuit
yeah thats probably nice. I kinda like going full offensive untill i cant anymore. But can only get my hands on hc raid item or myth m+ items. Dno if i should to pacemaker myth + house hc or pace myth + tome myth.
willow edge
Probably best to sim it
rigid yew
If you use a WA to keep uptime on sword up on tome, I think the pace/tome myth would be awesome
calm trellis
yeah i think so too. Nice with that extra prio dmg from tome. But when i sim pace myth + house hc does a little bit higher. So still not sure what to do
rigid yew
How much is the sim difference?
You have to weigh the actual difference vs knowing you're stuck with a heroic piece.
If you just want min/max no matter what, go with sim.
If you'd rather have all mythic gear, then go with what's close
calm trellis
How much is the sim difference?
You have to weigh the actual difference vs knowi...
its very slim diff
rigid yew
Well then I doubt you'd ever notice the difference. Go with what feels better for you. It's a game, have fun. 😄
calm trellis
:D:D
I'm a non raider, thats why raid items feel appealing. But getting stuck with a hc item is abit sad =/
tome feels kinda nice tho
rigid yew
Yea the current system just feels bad. Is it technically correct, at least at the mythic level, yea probably but time and time again I'm seeing everyone have to choose between really nice heroic raid end boss items vs mythic dungeon loot.
Also why can you get heroic gear from the vendor by doing LFR lmao
calm trellis
Yeah i might just stick to m+ loot and pretent that raid doesnt exist then 😄
But i only got pace and tome in hc atm. Scared to buy one and get the other in vault 😛
Or same in vault i mean
rigid yew
Well if you unlock 3 slots, if it comes in the vault then it might let you choose another upgrade item, essentially just gearing faster
calm trellis
y true
daring cedar
So I'm not going to be hitting Mythic raid at all and have a champ bombsuit already, is it worthwhile getting tome as first dinar and then going H bombsuit after that?
maiden jungle
Might not be the first to ask this, but as a semicasual (only doing keys, not killing Gally M), is it worth buying the HC Gallyussy Shield or should I craft a 681 instead?
Just started playing again
sinful copper
So I'm not going to be hitting Mythic raid at all and have a champ bombsuit alre...
Why do u need bomb suit? What lvl keys will u do?
sinful copper
Might not be the first to ask this, but as a semicasual (only doing keys, not ki...
Craft
random cedar
Think wowhead has a list of “buy this item if mythic version”
Yea but both Tome and pacemaker are on the list as myth track, but was tryna gauge what's better to buy
daring cedar
Why do u need bomb suit? What lvl keys will u do?
Probs only up to 10 for portals, maybe try for 3k if I cbf
round cliff
Probs only up to 10 for portals, maybe try for 3k if I cbf
dont need bombsuit then
bombsuit only needed ABOVE 13s really
daring cedar
bombsuit only needed ABOVE 13s really
So tome or pacemaker?
lofty glen
how long do we hold in demolish till we slam it into the enemys? asking cause of the talent Tide of Battle
left meteor
Sending it is better than holding it
blazing zinc
This is well known and it’s due to boss mods and/or weakauras loading custom sou...
so if I use DBM and dungeon WA then I guess nothing I can do about it then?
lofty glen
Sending it is better than holding it
so we only profit while waiting for demo to come up again?
left meteor
Sure but you stack quickly
neon elk
I have more often than not ready demolish while still waiting for dshout, based on time i send without it just with ava
lofty glen
So tome or pacemaker?
well if it is about all on hero track pls get bombsuit as an early invest cause on hero track you can farm tome or pace. waste of dinars on hero m+ trinkeds
better buy jastor or bombsuit and help your self reaching 12+ with it and buy myth tome in 3 weeks
daring cedar
better buy jastor or bombsuit and help your self reaching 12+ with it and buy my...
Cool, thanks 🙂
strong forum
Hello, many people had issue since S2 start where sometimes their game would fre...
"game trying to access 3rd party assets such as custom sounds and textures which catastrophically takes up to 5seconds as it's a locking process. possibly related to win defender being overzealous"
so its probably some weakaura pack
which is loading upon starting combat with the boss
wraith ibex
how long do we hold in demolish till we slam it into the enemys? asking cause of...
If the CDR you get from Shield Slam has it desynced from avatar, I would make a judgement call on whether to hold or not. I probably wouldn't hold more than 5 seconds. 10 max.
weak snow
can you play MT m+ with roar or would that ruin the spec in some way?^^
lofty glen
If the CDR you get from Shield Slam has it desynced from avatar, I would make a ...
well i time sometimes my shildwall with it to have avatar for moments like that
strong forum
can you play MT m+ with roar or would that ruin the spec in some way?^^
Not in the slightest
It's just less dmg on paper, nothing else
weak snow
thank you very much 🙂
strong forum
Roar is easier to play and better for threat, spear is more dmg if played well and has the lock down of mob movement
So it's no biggie
weak snow
opinion on bombsuit?
neon elk
Best( not that there are contenders) deff trinket we have acces to, not needed for wast majority i would say
Its nice to have , but unles its realy needed it is just tool to "fix" bad play
weak snow
thank you! 🙂
lofty glen
@strong forum mby you have a good advice. i run Tome and Pace HC. I can afford every dungeon trinkey in myth but only hc for raid. I REALY REALY want 1 more def trinked to feel more safe. what do i pick to swap out my pace?
solid sun
Heroic Bombsuit
lucid heath
<@192743144276623360> mby you have a good advice. i run Tome and Pace HC. I can ...
i took bombsuit with my dinar yesterday and i really like it
HC version as i dont myth raid
solid sun
I’m pretty sure heroic bombsuit is the second best defensive trinket overall you can get, with the mythic version being the best one
lofty glen
perfect thx. then ill take it, hope that i get i in the next 3 vaults and will ask again what to buy XD
hope next season they include weppons from m+ too. mby all trinkeds on myth with 12+ and all wep slots with 13+
anything to support the m+ player
jolly bough
Cryce's circlet is still top ring on archon. Are we really supposed to keep using it?
frosty mango
Titanic Pyroblast — Your damaging abilities have a chance to cast Titanic Blast, inflicting <x> Fire damage and stunning the target for 2 sec.
Wonder if this will trigger stun Dr
They always do things like this with no foresight
Not that it really matters but
strong forum
Cryce's circlet is still top ring on archon. Are we really supposed to keep usin...
I stopped using circlet over 658 miniature roulette wheel with big crit
Cuz I have enough haste without it
And I wanted more crit
All comes down to what you have available to you
And well archon just shows what's popular, and everyone in the game has circlet
dusky canopy
@sharp gale started mugz prog last night for the last two hours 
frosty mango
"game trying to access 3rd party assets such as custom sounds and textures which...
How come when you say it, no one questions but when I say it they poop on me
I am a meme confirmed
I have ascended into roidstack and I can retire now
frosty mango
So eloquent and succinct
This is why you write guides
Also the fact you’re better than all of us, but mostly the first bit
sharp gale
<@247128537994231808> started mugz prog last night for the last two hours <:wick...
Yes our first night we did only 40% pulls, the boss is now a joke with the turbo boost
dusky canopy
Very much so
dusky canopy
All that’s left for us is ice into bombs and the 4 cage set. With our dps I think we skip the hard bomb set that used to be around 10%
sharp gale
I guess it is big chill to skip the last mine phase in p1
We didn’t see p2 last week bc we couldn’t do the dps check to skip
dusky canopy
We are pushing p2 right as the 3 cage set ends
We had to hold DpS a few times (with 4 healers)
sharp gale
4 healers too / no vantus
No turbo boost, but I saw stix and sprocket on our reclean I knew
Sprocket dies in the second intermission
Stix BEFORE the 6th set
dusky canopy
Hey btw, was the crest grind a success yesterday?
sharp gale
Yes
dusky canopy
4 upgrades left on the +1 luck ring witch will replace cyrcl
And then I’m done until I aquire more myth track items
sharp gale
Yeah I’m full myth/craft but the ring
dusky canopy
Lucky! My trinkets are hero track
Zero chances that changes until myth HoC
And probably never getting myth eye
Lmao
Vault pacemaker would be pretty pog
Not really for raid though
sharp gale
1.3 Go was my log txt
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7KxAt1vRDP3TCcaM
sharp gale
Vault pacemaker would be pretty pog
I use pacemaker, I don’t think I will change it this season
Im pacemaker + lock n stalk as fury
Close to finish the gear game
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nDANyMXx9NtjfNhPjCbsSt
dusky canopy
Big pump!
sharp gale
The ilvl increase is insane, it is almost too much for me
jagged pier
Am 678 and have upgraded 4 pieces
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
I just converted my crests and transferred valorstones from alts
sharp gale
I meant for the fun I have progging, it really diminish it for me
jagged pier
I have 0 old crests
lusty grotto
Just like one of my priest friend
jagged pier
I still have 850 valor in bag tho 
lusty grotto
So I understand
sharp gale
Me too just 500 weathered and carved into 75 gilded
sharp gale
Or 900 i don’t remember, it was a lot of clicks
solid sun
So far I’ve been able to fully upgrade my myth shield and weapon, redrafted a bracer, and maxed myth pacemaker and chest and legs
One more dungeon and I can buy myth tome and then max that
sharp gale
weak snow
what point could i use for disrupting shout?
jagged pier
Think i have to do close to 30 dungeons 
jagged pier
what point could i use for disrupting shout?
Are u thane or colossus?
weak snow
thane
jagged pier
Indom then
round pendant
Think i have to do close to 30 dungeons <:seramore:917663298869145640>
why
haven't you done everything you want to do this season?
just retire 🍹
jagged pier
We havent cleared raid yet
round pendant
Ah
jagged pier
So why would i not make my char the best it can be
round pendant
I always forget raiding is a thing people do
weak snow
Indom then
what would it be as colossus and would you mind explain to me why, im curious
round pendant
I gotta do 30 dungeons too, just on each role
and one of those roles isn't even geared so that'll be fun
jagged pier
Yer fuck that achieve honestly
round pendant
what would it be as colossus and would you mind explain to me why, im curious
thunderlord
jagged pier
Weighted towards specs that can play all three roles
round pendant
and indom goes elsewhere as colossus too (ravager/battering ram)
weak snow
dont fight over a noob and his noob questions lads
weak snow
its about why andor is the best star wars there has ever been
round pendant
Yer fuck that achieve honestly
It's dumb af that it's not retroactive, that's my only problem with it
also should be +12s
jagged pier
he asked what it would be as colossus
#protection message 0 mention of colossus i asked what he played
round pendant
I replied to his message asking about colossus lol
jagged pier
ocean smelt
also should be +12s
Yikes, imagine having to do 12 as a healer
cerulean tusk
Wow, Jakey doing the emote attack. How will Yam respond?
round pendant
I yield I yield!!
cerulean tusk
Jakey wins 15-0 no diff
round pendant
dont fight over a noob and his noob questions lads
oh yeah also the reason you don't want indom as colossus especially is cause col naturally generates less rage to make use of it
indom stinky
thunderlord is pretty good over ravager/battering ram in super high keys afaik, so that's your flex
lapis owl
im proging on gally heroic and my prot warrior can't hold aggro from my dh tank what should i do?
jagged pier
Im very tired, heat doesnt agree with me and now i have to go the gym because i have no excuse not to go
jagged pier
im proging on gally heroic and my prot warrior can't hold aggro from my dh tank ...
Tell him to press buttons
frosty mango
dont fight over a noob and his noob questions lads
But that’s much more fun
round pendant
you're uk right jakey
jagged pier
Yes
frosty mango
im proging on gally heroic and my prot warrior can't hold aggro from my dh tank ...
If a pwar can’t hold threat there’s no other answer than they aren’t pressing buttons
Seems snarkey but seriously it’s really probably that, or a massive fear disparity
round pendant
Yeah that's almost impressive
cerulean tusk
im proging on gally heroic and my prot warrior can't hold aggro from my dh tank ...
doubt
weak snow
oh yeah also the reason you don't want indom as colossus especially is cause col...
thanks 🙂 got it
lapis owl
If a pwar can’t hold threat there’s no other answer than they aren’t pressing bu...
there always pressing defensives on ph3
jagged pier
I live in ahouse with heating on because me relatives are there who are old and cold all the time, i then came to the offic etoday which also has heating on because commerical building so heatings on a schedule
lapis owl
and not pressing ph1 with my demon surge
frosty mango
If you link a log we can help but almost certainly it’s not using shield slam enough
lapis owl
im bringing a log up one minute
misty moth
Should post a link to the entire log
jagged pier
im bringing a log up one minute
Where 
?
round pendant
lapis owl
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RXHJYLfqPKTjC429
Warcraft Logs
Summary - All Encounters - Report: Liberation of Undermine
dusky canopy
jagged pier
I mean i cant tell from that they arent playing corrextly
But these lovely gents will help im sure
Time for gym
lapis owl
Time for gym
have fun
jagged pier
round pendant
How is he just not pressing revenge
misty moth
Yeah, the issue is your DH is good and your PWarr is bad
round pendant
oh he's pressing IP instead
round pendant
yeah but he also pressed slam 22 times
Anyway I'll let someone else review it
the DPS gap isn't that large that I'd expect threat to be a problem tho
misty moth
They are pressing Shield Block on average once per minute
lapis owl
ima give a log from last night but i wasn't tanking was dps
lapis owl
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kcZmXMH7K3gv9bVt
Warcraft Logs
Summary - All Encounters - Report: Liberation of Undermine
round pendant
Tell him to take slam off of his bars
frosty mango
he is focusing on defensives
So tldr he has no idea what he is doing
misty moth
22% uptime on shield block
cerulean tusk
keep in mind this is hero gally
misty moth
Is the most basic issue (as well as take slam off his bars)
round cliff
22% uptime on shield block
HUH
frosty mango
He’s playing the wrong talents for that fight, he’s using slam and not revenge, his shield slam usage is very low, he’s not capitalizing on avatar, he’s not even using defensives correctly
frosty mango
There are a lot of things he needs help with, imo point him to the wowhead warrior guide and tell him to review rotation
misty moth
Had 10% uptime on shield block on OAB
round pendant
Not pressing shield slam enough
Pressing thunder clap too much (you hardly press it as colossus, only to maintain rend or if low on rage so you can't press revenge without starving)
Pressing slam AT ALL is trolling
Pressing IP too much
Bad shield block uptime
cerulean tusk
I am toxic today, I need a timeout
round pendant
also his defensive usage is pretty bad
and he also didn't press demo shout once?
(looking at the best kill attempt)
frosty mango
I mean it’s pretty obvious this is a player who is playing in a vaccum
There’s no chance they are self aware
lapis owl
did you look at the logs?
cerulean tusk
lapis owl
kk
lapis owl
why tf are they play around with slam
frosty mango
Frankly you need a new tank but if you wanna save this guy he needs to read the warrior guide to start
round pendant
btw unless you got this guys permission to critique him, giving him this advice probably won't go very well
cerulean tusk
Maybe he read "press shield slam" somewhere, and searched slam?
round cliff
this the kinda person you tell to stop pressing slam and they'd be like "it's called having fun stop trying to hard"
frosty mango
YOU DONT PAY MY SUB
misty moth
I think they are pressing IP so much because they can see how much damage it is preventing, but not pressing shield block because they can't see how much damage it is preventing
round cliff
EIGHT
misty moth
To be clear, shield block should be up near 100% of the time, depending on haste
round pendant
cute noob
frosty mango
Sometimes I may accidentally drop it in my execute fury
misty moth
Yeah, pobodies nerfect
round cliff
mugzee is harder
mugzee don't care if you rip aggro
round pendant
yeah true
toxic pewter
what is the best transmog item to buy with a dinar
thick dust
Why is there no revenge
round cliff
most that fight can be solo tanked
thick dust
round cliff
hey im the florida man here
frosty mango
round pendant
probably an accident
round cliff
HE PRESSES BOTH
fierce raptor
I feel like if you dont read any guide and skim the abilities it can make logical sense to use slam in single target
revenge aoe, slam single target
fierce raptor
obv thats not the case tho lol
thick dust
Well but thats stupidity of blizz design that leaves u with abilitues u dont use
round pendant
I feel like if you dont read any guide and skim the abilities it can make logica...
yeah and it would be the case if the class was designed well
thick dust
Look as bdk and death coil
fierce raptor
yeah idk why they dont just take those abilities out of the specs that dont need them
the appendix of class design
thick dust
Its same with whirlwind
thick dust
round pendant
all @lapis owl has to do is explain to this guy that revenge can reset shield slam and also has a chance to refund rage whereas slam doesn't do either of those things
and he'll fix it
fierce raptor
yeah it's probably a snowball effect right
thick dust
And he has to start using sb
cerulean tusk
All baby bear can do, is throw the baby out with the bathwater
misty moth
But IP is a much worse use of rage than shield block if shield block is not up lol
solid sun
Why block attack when you can ignore it instead
fierce raptor
big think
solid sun
Simple
thick dust
We talking gally duds?
round pendant
also it being heroic is an argument against playing defensively
thick dust
Click is phys dmg + u get fire dot
solid sun
Heroic isn’t lfr
fierce raptor
does spell reflect block dot or just reduce the damage from it
solid sun
Let’s not get crazy
round pendant
I've wiped more on lfr gally than heroic gally
solid sun
Irrelevant
round pendant
yeah I'm just using hyperbole
the point is that playing "defensively" (as much as that makes sense for pwar) is literally irrelevant for hc
cause it's easy enough you can get away with playing really badly
if this guy was pressing his damage buttons more so that his threat wasn't getting yoinked
they wouldn't even notice his bad play
misty moth
Well the ultimate irony is that being defensive as pwar is more offensive too because you get more shield slam damage. The core issue is just not pressing shield block enough
lapis owl
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kcZmXMH7K3gv9bVt
Warcraft Logs
Summary - Al...
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i agree with all of you but at the same time i don't think that prot war can hold aggro from big demon surge crits
lapis owl
yes but thats only 1 button vs 5-6 buttons that hit for 1m-2m
cerulean tusk
Demolish hits for 3m, 1 button, then if it crits, oboiii
lapis owl
i mean yes i see demon hiting hard but demon surge has more buttons that hit hard aswell
mighty valley
prot warrior is the highest damage tank and vdh is one of the lowest in st, this isn't a thing
warm plinth
lapis owl
i mostly play mountain thane demo not my play style
solid sun
Give it time
mighty valley
your warrior just needs to learn the basics and these threat issues will disappear
ocean smelt
i agree with all of you but at the same time i don't think that prot war can hol...
There are many things that a VDH can do better than us but damage is not one of them
If I loose aggro to a VDH I'm gonna play FF14
tribal wharf
so listen..... i'm a fuckin warrior, okay?
mighty valley
yep, that prot warrior is not playing correctly
tribal wharf
i would say, check his logs, probably isnt hitting his buttons right
solid sun
Already provided the logs, yogi
lapis owl
He did better with the druid heal build from Manofwood then with me as my vdh dmg buid
misty moth
The good thing about how tanks are designed now is that you can actually tell 90% if they are playing well by their parse. Your pwar is abysmal, no way around it
tribal wharf
does he have 100% SB uptime and blocked hits and 90% dmg parse?
solid sun
No he’s pressing slam
tribal wharf
thats the only real important part
misty moth
does he have 100% SB uptime and blocked hits and 90% dmg parse?
20% in both cases
tribal wharf
well, frankly thats a grill issue.
round pendant
The classes have nothing to do with it
tribal wharf
cuz, he aint applying the heat
round pendant
he's playing wrong, that's why you're ripping aggro
cerulean tusk
I swear, if Baby is trying to defend VDH strong, cause he pull threat from mr no blockuptime and presses slam
I will have a hissyfit
round pendant
I mean he's prob just not read any guides
I feel bad for him cause we bully him
he wasn't the one asking for advice
tribal wharf
maybe he thinks he only has to hit sb for the boss abilities
that like, it shows tank icon
lapis owl
i should stop defending vdh but at the end of the day if he can't play prot war then try a other class?
misty moth
You need another player
mighty valley
or send him here to learn, prot warrior's not hard, it just seems like he hasn't tried to learn yet
misty moth
Unless he is willing to learn
frosty mango
i agree with all of you but at the same time i don't think that prot war can hol...
Starting to thing the problem may be you
As well
tribal wharf
he could have yogi problem too
frosty mango
Any tank can hold aggro from any dps in a raid setting
tribal wharf
willing to learn, likes it, but just stupid
lapis owl
Any tank can hold aggro from any dps in a raid setting
im not saying that they can't im a vdh in one of the logs but still seeing a prot war lose aggro to a vdh is a sin in prot war culture
frosty mango
Its a sin in any tank culture
sharp gale
Thats what I was gonna say
frosty mango
Losing threat to a single target to any dps class regardless of anything is insane
mighty valley
im not saying that they can't im a vdh in one of the logs but still seeing a pro...
i mean, yeah, it's a purple parse against a grey, this can happen with any tank combo
frosty mango
Even then
lapis owl
im banging my head against the wall trying to tank and not pull aggro
misty moth
Losing threat to a single target to any dps class regardless of anything is insa...
Not sure why you keep saying DPS class when it's VDH and Pwarr
frozen lily
Here is my Protection Warrior's gear sheet. In your opinion, which stats should I change to achieve better balance? I feel like I'm not doing much damage. Thank you!
urban portal
tribal wharf
i will still never ever for as long as i live forget the demon hunter who i told not to stand in the maggot spray and he says ya ya i know shut up, and like, hes a dh so hes got a stun, 5 seconds into key its staring at him, dh doesnt stun, doesnt move out, eats puke, dies
this was in undersuck
ocean dove
I love the way everyone is rippin on this dude for not playing correctly. Everyone is up in arms on how toxic the community is, but yet you get shit like this thread where were bent over backwards to talk a bunch of shit when all ya gotta do is point a dude in the right direction. I cant believe this DH talk either.
misty moth
im not saying that they can't im a vdh in one of the logs but still seeing a pro...
This isn't like we are offended that a VDH could possibly rip aggro, it's that you are ripping aggro because your co tank is bad and not playing correctly. The issue is not that your one giga ability is too good
sharp gale
im banging my head against the wall trying to tank and not pull aggro
I banged my head yesterday on sprocket bc aggro, but we both do 95, here I can say it’s maybe spec
cerulean tusk
I love the way everyone is rippin on this dude for not playing correctly. Everyo...
We did point him into the right direction to help the dude. Mr 
sharp gale
Or ilvl*
tribal wharf
im not good at math right
ocean dove
OP, get out of here, and send him the link to the discord, so we can help instead of what looks like.... boasting?
misty moth
I love the way everyone is rippin on this dude for not playing correctly. Everyo...
??? The co tank asked for advice, the warrior is playing extremely incorrectly
mighty valley
I love the way everyone is rippin on this dude for not playing correctly. Everyo...
the person who needs help isn't even here
frosty mango
OP, get out of here, and send him the link to the discord, so we can help instea...
Yes
We’re growing
tribal wharf
effectively losing 30% aggro from not having SB dmg buff up, for 80% of the fight
thats the entire issue
round pendant
OP, get out of here, and send him the link to the discord, so we can help instea...
I listed like 6 things the pwar could do better
it's up to baby bear to share that info
cerulean tusk
^
round pendant
no one's boasting
cerulean tusk
Well mr VDH tried to do some
round pendant
It's simply facts that tanks shouldn't rip aggro from eachother if both are playing correctly
cerulean tusk
we knocked that shit down
urban portal
There’s also a lot of leeway on playing
lapis owl
i gave him a link to the discord
tribal wharf
and i see problem
tribal wharf
just tell him to hit more buttons in general, or the same ones repeatedly (sb ss)
lapis owl
idk if he wil be here rn give him som time
round pendant
Giving people unsolicited advice kinda usually backfires tho
lapis owl
^^^^^
cerulean tusk
Usually yep, but that is Baby Bears problem
aint my raid, aint my guild, aint my problem
lapis owl
if i go into the raid on my pwar same item level as him I should not pull off aggro?
lapis owl
if i go into the raid on my pwar same item level as him I should not pull off ag...
keep in mind i play mountian thane because demon is a weird playstyle for me
tribal wharf
the problem for me is i am actually as dumb as your stereotypical demon hunter where i would fit the bill
tribal wharf
its great, but dh just i cant do it,
cerulean tusk
Leaves group
tribal wharf
i know it would only end up in tears
round pendant
Leaves group
honestly, based
tribal wharf
if i played it
misty moth
if i go into the raid on my pwar same item level as him I should not pull off ag...
No you'll still rip aggro. The issue isn't VDH, it's that you play better
lapis owl
pull, eyebeam, aggro, dies
you can sorta buff eye beam dmg
round pendant
idk what's so hard to understand
the pwar isn't doing enough dps to keep threat from the other tank
yeah you could play worse to compensate
but it's still on him
I only pug so I simply kick tanks who can't hold aggro from me
tribal wharf
he needs to play better or he's gunna be crashing out
lapis owl
is it really Dmg > mitagation or is the other way around
round pendant
mitigation has nothing to do with this
tribal wharf
dmg = threat
misty moth
He's not even mitigating correctly
tribal wharf
more dmg u deal , more sustaine threat you have
misty moth
He's doing nothing correctly
tribal wharf
more dps other tank can deal
urban portal
if i go into the raid on my pwar same item level as him I should not pull off ag...
Yes
urban portal
If you take his character and playing well
lapis owl
He's not even mitigating correctly
niether am i
cerulean tusk
Ok, but at this point, guys - if it is not the guy himself asking. Lets leave this be.
urban portal
You should never rip from your dh
cerulean tusk
Now it just feels like we feeding bear ammo
willow edge
I love that almost every day or so theres logs or posts in general "Why am I sucking at prot war?" and the log is always terrible uptime on SB/IP and damage
urban portal
Wow makes it VERY hard to rip
round pendant
Ok, but at this point, guys - if it is not the guy himself asking. Lets leave th...
yeah but I feel like bear is not understanding something too
lmao
willow edge
Should have a seperate thread that just says to people when they join the server to check those things
lapis owl
Ok, but at this point, guys - if it is not the guy himself asking. Lets leave th...
no im really not
cerulean tusk
yep, but lets just leave this be. If the warrior himself dont show
there is nothing more to talk about
lapis owl
im just a stupid little baby dh/bear
cerulean tusk
it reached that point
round pendant
you're not my mom
willow edge
Well now we can rag on bear/dh
tribal wharf
i would play monk if stagger wasnt so alien to me i think
willow edge
Anyone else pug on a alt and every time you see a DH tank you just roll your eyes cause you keep getting the one that tries to do a large pull, dies immediately and then leaves the key?
lapis owl
alright see yall later ima stop pulling buttons on you guys
tribal wharf
i think if i want to play a tank character in video game, has to be mail or above armor class
round pendant
alright see yall later ima stop pulling buttons on you guys
what does that mean
lapis owl
what does that mean
pulling buttons = Being annoying little bastard
tribal wharf
pulling as in holding back i think he means
round pendant
Do you mean pushing buttons?
misty moth
I think they mixed up pulling your chain and pushing buttons
lapis owl
Do you mean pushing buttons?
their almost the same thing
round pendant
Regardless you're fine
Just get your tank friend to agree to taking some advice
and you'll kill gally in no time 
alternatively just find where he lives, log on his account and replace his slam button with the following macro:
/cast Revenge```Tbh when you choose prot it should just auto replace slam with revenge
misty moth
That's really not the major issue lol. Obviously they shouldn't be casting slam, but shield block is the main issue. I will stop talking now.
fierce raptor
I love the way everyone is rippin on this dude for not playing correctly. Everyo...
you should see the bdk chat in acherus. they're one step away from calling people slurs if they post a log with mistakes in it
ocean smelt
We're too busy hesitating between tome or bombsuit to be aggressive
nocturne spindle
just make the ultimate one button macro and give it to him
/cast shield slam
/cast revenge
/cast shield block
/cast avatar
sharp gale
Watch out on what you are asking in these Halls
round pendant
oh god
sharp gale
Some may have what you request, but will you be able to use it for the Good ?
nocturne spindle
i bet you could green/blue parse with that one button
i forget how macros work though
if it would get stuck trying to cast shield slam
or cast revenge if its on cd
frosty mango
the next time someone tells me im pulling wrong and that "this isnt how they did it in mdi" while simultaneously being outdpsed by the tank im going to be a real life roidberg
cerulean tusk
That time of the seasona gain, is it?
sharp gale
cerulean tusk
nice
cerulean tusk
Doesnt work, aint for the whole rotation
round pendant
- first thing that is on the gcd and is available
round pendant
the next time someone tells me im pulling wrong and that "this isnt how they did...
that's when you leave the key
sharp gale
Doesnt work, aint for the whole rotation
What if your talent build doesn’t take these spells
nocturne spindle
im gonna make a one button macro and see what my parse is on some random heroic pug
urban portal
/cast shield slam
/cast revenge
/cast shield block
/cast avatar
this will never cast revenge
sharp gale
You can’t /cast 2 gcd spells
urban portal
Two GCD spells in one macro is banned
willow edge
That's really not the major issue lol. Obviously they shouldn't be casting slam,...
We have already covered the issue of uptime on SB lol
round pendant
I think you can use gnome sequencer to make a legit one button macro
sharp gale
I repost it, to show how a macro (awful and sinful macro) would work
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Pummel
/cast Taunt
/cast Last Stand
/cast Shield Wall
/castsequence reset=alt Shield Slam, Revenge, Thunder Clap, Ignore Pain, Shield Block, Demoralizing Shout, Shockwave
sharp gale
I couldn’t do mist with it
solid sun
I wonder if that dude is gonna join and hop over to this channel and then just immediately leave after reading our chat about them
sharp gale
Because of the second boss
willow edge
I wonder if that dude is gonna join and hop over to this channel and then just i...
Might learn something
cerulean tusk
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Pummel
/cast Taunt
/cast Last Stand
/cast Shield...
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Pummel
/cast Taunt
/cast Last Stand
/cast Shield Wall
/cast shield block
/castsequence Shield Slam, Revenge, Thunder Clap
Fixed it
round pendant
y'all are overcomplicating it
cerulean tusk
Its disgusting, I love it
willow edge
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Pummel
/cast Taunt
/cast Last Stand
/cast Shield...
Missing thunderous roar
cerulean tusk
CDs are not taken
sharp gale
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Pummel
/cast Taunt
/cast Last Stand
/cast Shield...
Add a modifier to the sequence, to restart if you get a SS reset
cerulean tusk
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Shield Block
/cast Shield Slam
then you never cast clap or revenge!
Booo!
boooooooooooo!
cerulean tusk
Add a modifier to the sequence, to restart if you get a SS reset
No. That is not the purpose.
No reset. Only one button.
Only press.
frosty mango
you could use controller mode and get one of those turbo controllers
you always say to press my buttons harder
sharp gale
You forgot the button to mount
willow edge
Thoughts on: they should add a visual to players that lets others know they are using the one button mode so I know to leave group /s
nocturne spindle
based on the ptr its dps is so low youll know
willow edge
I don’t think so
willow edge
based on the ptr its dps is so low youll know
Yeah
But then it would be funny to look at low dps and tell them to turn it on
solid sun
Think it depends on the spec
sharp gale
based on the ptr its dps is so low youll know
Ptr, what type of players are on ptr ?
willow edge
Think it depends on the spec
Bm hunter
cerulean tusk
Ya ppl complain about the weirdest of things. Just join my camp of: Whatever you find is fun at the moment, go for i.
nocturne spindle
Ptr, what type of players are on ptr ?
idk i just see videos of it
willow edge
Ya ppl complain about the weirdest of things. Just join my camp of: Whatever you...
Depends on the level of content you are doing
solid sun
I hope putting in a keystone forces everyone in the group to swap to the one button thing :)
sharp gale
idk i just see videos of it
About doggo players using the macro or the group who doesn’t need it ?
round pendant
how's that relevant
willow edge
I maintain that instead of enabling a lazy play mode they should’ve worked on simplifying specs that have high skill floors and ceilings
round pendant
If good players are testing it then they'll show it in it's best light
and if it's awful
then it's awful
nocturne spindle
About doggo players using the macro or the group who doesn’t need it ?
about people testing the one button thing to see how much damage it does
misty moth
I looked at a normal LOU log with an Arms warrior that parsed 33 and the one button would have been much worse than that
solid sun
I maintain that instead of enabling a lazy play mode they should’ve worked on si...
That’s not really what it’s for
frosty mango
I don’t care if someone is using one button
solid sun
I don’t think the one button is a commentary at all on the complexity of class design
willow edge
That’s not really what it’s for
Yes yes it’s for the many one armed disabled or impaired people or some shit I know
sharp gale
Yeah but ppl will use it if they do more with it, not if it’s better or worse than top players dps
frosty mango
My issue with it is that it doesn’t help players grow
round pendant
god
misty moth
Yeah but ppl will use it if they do more with it, not if it’s better or worse th...
90% of people won't do better with it
round pendant
I want to insert my opinion here but we've been over this like half a dozen times already
willow edge
They should add in a smart system that says “hey you are playing this spec badly. We recommend turning it on”
solid sun
It’s also for the people who just don’t care to play the spec “right”
round pendant
It's one of those things where we're never all gonna agree there's valid points on both sides
sharp gale
Yeah I don’t want to rant too long on something we discussed too long once or twice already
willow edge
I want to insert my opinion here but we've been over this like half a dozen time...
It’s gonna loop around until it’s implemented and then we’ll see how things go
round pendant
If you like it: You're a noob who wants the game to be dumbed down
if you dislike it: You're an elitist gatekeeper
shrimple
willow edge
Blizzard give us a controversy to fight about
solid sun
I just don’t even think that’s true yam
frosty mango
Yeah I don’t want to rant too long on something we discussed too long once or tw...
You basically just described the lifecycle of this channel
solid sun
I think there are tons of opinions on this that aren’t relevant at all
round pendant
"Just don't use it" isn't a valid way to dismiss concerns about the system either
just sayin
solid sun
Sure it is
round pendant
Only if you have the critical reasoning skills of a slug
sharp gale
You basically just described the lifecycle of this channel
I just remember too many debate on BSV in S1
solid sun
Not at all true
round pendant
"Nah"
frosty mango
We’ll be back to mud vs bombsuit soon
willow edge
I just want the option to know if people are playing with it enabled and then I can choose not to play with them. Yes you can work it out after the fact looking at logs but it’s kinda crappy after you’ve not timed a key or wiped on a few bosses in a raid.
nocturne spindle
I'm still of the opinion while in theory it's good for new people, it will have the hilarious side effect of making dps player count even more inflated and people will complain about ques/pigging even more
round pendant
Best argument so far tbh
round pendant
We’ll be back to mud vs bombsuit soon
please, those are the good times
frosty mango
Though demon hunter guy was a new convo that was interesting
sharp gale
New npc dialogue unlocked
round pendant
I just want the option to know if people are playing with it enabled and then I ...
The fact is 10s are so easy that players using it are gonna fill your weekly keys and the overall experience will become worse
frosty mango
IMO 10s are unironically harder than 12s
round pendant
you're capping
solid sun
You’re yapping
sharp gale
But not really new convo tbf, how many times we see a healer/cotank asking « WTF IS WRONG with our tank »
willow edge
The fact is 10s are so easy that players using it are gonna fill your weekly key...
Gearing and content has been made too easy that the “bad players@ are getting into the content they shouldn’t be.
round pendant
actually yknow what I thought about it for a second
10s can definitely be harder on certain affixes
nocturne spindle
We're just circling back into delve gearing ruined keys convo
Everything is a circle 🙂
sharp gale
IMO 10s are unironically harder than 12s
If you refer about the players you play with, yes 12s are easier
willow edge
I’m not blaming delves
round pendant
I love when the kick orbs show up in the most inconvenient phase of the boss
willow edge
All the lower content is too easy
gleaming knoll
I love when the kick orbs show up in the most inconvenient phase of the boss
Or this weeks affix spawning on Xav when youre there with the healer and the only dps that is missing their brian
round pendant
but since you don't get spooned a giga haste/whatever buff in 12s
people have to do somewhat acceptable damage to time a 12
gleaming knoll
while the other 2 dps are having their own little AWC match
nocturne spindle
But I like my free lust every 2 min
sharp gale
It’s every min
nocturne spindle
Ur every min
sharp gale
round pendant
sharp gale
Im gearing my monk btw
sharp gale
It’s close to the switching raid main period / so I’m looking on what I will play next patch
dusky canopy
Still rotate 6 buttons around hit combo?
sharp gale
Im brew for now, so it is button bloat fiesta still
But it’s to dps at the end, I hesitate between rogue / monk / stay fury
frosty mango
Still rotate 6 buttons around hit combo?
Yes but you don’t ever feel like you’re maintaining it
It’s basically “don’t press same button twice”
sharp gale
The mastery mech of ww monk is not a huge deal
sharp gale
Just imagine which gcd buttons as prot you hit twice in a row : just revenge, so imagine you just do another to fill the gap between each revenge
sharp gale
I did it two days ago for the first time, I will never do it again
sharp gale
I will just do few mm0 and hop in m+ with 630 ilvl, like I did with the other alts
Do some 6s to grab runed crests /hero gear and then vault
frosty mango
trying to gear my disc
Disc doesn’t need gear
Just go oracle and you can heal 10s at like 630
Press cdr > shield everyone
Repeat until key is over
ocean dove
Repeat until key is over
Naaah
lusty grotto
tender pond
what's the go-to way for raid prots to know what stats to get for maintanking? Just simming for damage or is there some other go-to?
round pendant
And if someone dies tell them they’re a slug
You're god damn right
round pendant
what's the go-to way for raid prots to know what stats to get for maintanking? J...
damage is the only thing you can sim
all the stats benefit tankiness anyway
tender pond
my point is that i just simply have no fkn clue what to go for other than haste crit stacking. I realize what mastery and vers do for the spec but im a dps pepega player who's been tasked to tank gallywix mythic soon
therefore
round pendant
sim for damage yep
nocturne spindle
just giga stack haste crit anyway
more fun to zug zug and see a 7 m demolish
🙂
round pendant
7m? those are rookie numbers
frosty mango
Back in my dad we had 150m demolish crits
With no gear
And flasks
Playing in the snow
round pendant
idk tbh
I've hit 17m on final boss rookery
and that's a flat 100% amp right
10m seems about right in raid with the 12% buff
solid sun
I’m so busy watching the nba playoffs lately while playing I have no idea what damage numbers I’m hitting
I just know that sometimes I still have threat on Gally and it isn’t my turn to take the soak and people are shouting
mortal cypress
Go sports! Glad you are enjoying it
haughty ibex
So I am reading the Dinar options and I guess since 90% of the recommends are Myth track, I am not spending any dinar this season
anyone want my 9 Dinar?
haughty ibex
Sit in LFG and get rejected constantly
round pendant
run your own key
I think I joined maybe 2 groups on my way to all 12s
but ig I have 1-2 friends to play with to run their keys too
haughty ibex
I'd rather just sell the Dinars
solid sun
I’m sorry you don’t like doing dungeons :(
kind urchin
My cat sounds like a murloc when he meows.
mortal cypress
My cat sounds like a murloc when he meows.
tell him to stop it
mortal cypress
Sit in LFG and get rejected constantly
lol
kind urchin
tell him to stop it
Why would I do that? That's entertainment I'd lose.
sinful copper
can someone explain the creepers in dfc and the big monstrosities at end of rookery? if i just move them away from corpses, do they hit way less?
mighty valley
creepers do less damage when far away from corpses, but the dot is also bad on its own if you pull too many/your healer isn't dispelling you
(it was undispellable at the start of the season...)
jagged gust
rookery ones are a bit different no?
stacking buff with 3 sec icd for every ally within 100 yards
misty moth
If I had to guess they are not actually powering up on mobs 100 yards away. I think that just means they can cast that even if the tank is 100 yards away
jagged gust
yeah ally is specifically anything currently on the aggro table
patent scroll
all 12s done, 3k and Pacemaker obtained
got to say though, it was almost anticlimactic how easy they were
jagged gust
no affix, boosted ilvl
12s are super comfy nowadays
except ML, 3rd boss continues to remind me that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
patent scroll
Yeah, since this was a fresh-ish char I "only" had 666ish, but the DPS just blasted everything down so fast
and even then I managed to clown a few pulls, charged into an elemental death explosion in Priory while pulling Braunpyke, died once during gather in ML because I managed to not press SW and got sync'd 
jagged gust
My favorite bricked key this season was a... 13 or 14 rook, I SCed a half second early on first boss into a one shot, brez during the spinning laser intermission, forgot to taunt on Rez then watched as the boss immediately one shots the monk then the boomie before I can react
near salmon
For that ML 3rd boss, what is a good strategy for using defensives? Her auto attack's timing all feel very random.
open rose
what's the best item to craft after weapon and shield? all my gear is heroic 665. Mostly doing m+ and new to tanking
mighty valley
For that ML 3rd boss, what is a good strategy for using defensives? Her auto att...
On pull and then after each big spread reset, that's when she has the most uninterrupted auto attack time
jagged gust
For that ML 3rd boss, what is a good strategy for using defensives? Her auto att...
in general having an enemy swing timer is helpful for Rixxa, she does I think 3? AAs then spams a bunch of abilities while throwing in an auto here and there
mighty valley
Whenever she's casting she's doing nothing to you so healer can catch up
get spell block on CD early so you can use it again
near salmon
Thanks guys. These info are super helpful.
jagged gust
also it's all magic, so ample usage of spell reflect
mighty valley
I think she's a boss where people go in without anything up and say WHAT THE FUCK
and struggle to recover lol
but when she's doing nothing? that's when she's dangerous
near salmon
but when she's doing nothing? that's when she's dangerous
By doing nothing, do you mean when she is not actively putting those stuff on the floor?
patent scroll
what's the best item to craft after weapon and shield? all my gear is heroic 665...
weapons > embellishment slot (if still missing) > biggest upgrade
I did weapons, wrists for the second embellishment armor slot, chest, neck
patent scroll
But you can literally just fill whatever you don't like
mighty valley
yeah - when she starts doing the spray, no one is in any danger
near salmon
Got it. Thank you.
near salmon
https://tenor.com/view/dylan-cole-gif-1280182080801597184
lol
grizzled orbit
Hmm for new dinged prot what item shud i get with the coins
nocturne spindle
wait until you can get myth trinkets from 12+
or a bombsuit if your not gonna raid and want a defensive trinket
mild river
Hello, guys. I was doing a mechagon run today and the arcane mage asked me to spawn a little add. I remember I saw that add one or two times but I don't know how to spawn it. Anyone knows?
patent scroll
You need to aim the charge to the wall next to the add
Pretty free to do with the first one
Just note that the add will get perma stunned if it hits a hammer, so you kinda want to drag him out if possible when breaking the plates
grizzled orbit
or a bombsuit if your not gonna raid and want a defensive trinket
Im not raiding just m+
misty moth
weapons > embellishment slot (if still missing) > biggest upgrade
When you say weapons here do you include shield? I always see world recommended first, and it's not clear to me how much of an impact shield ilvl has on overall damage. I assume just shield slam damage, but damage is also based on AP, and MH weapon increases AP with ilvl as well.
patent scroll
When you say weapons here do you include shield? I always see world recommended ...
Yeah I just meant both, there's no real point with the current amount of available crests to do just one
grizzled orbit
Att 625ilvl alt. How would you gear solo playing?
patent scroll
Go do the nightfall event daily, or at least weekly for the bigger token. Grab keys from rep vendors and go Delving
Or if you can, just straight to the Mines+
grizzled orbit
nah, i mean im doing m+ farming crest and gear
round pendant
making weakauras is more fun than playing the game
misty moth
Oh, then might as well still do the nightfall stuff, it's very quick, and then do m+
grizzled orbit
Oh, then might as well still do the nightfall stuff, it's very quick, and then d...
new contetent? what drops there
lusty grotto
guaranteed champion gear
misty moth
It's in Hallowfall. The hourly event can be done weekly for a token to get a champion track piece. Then daily three quests for veteran track gear, though it's all warbound stuff so it can be for other armor types and stuff
lusty grotto
1 piece a week
event is every hour at the top of the hour
just do it once, then next week etc until you outgrow champion gear in general
make sure you grab the quest cause that's the one that awards you the token
grizzled orbit
i got 3 coints tho, im not gonna raid maybe buy something now or wait?
grizzled orbit
in keys?
lusty grotto
in anything
grizzled orbit
14-15 maybe
lusty grotto
did you take a look at the wowhead list
grizzled orbit
to get mythic gear from coin i need to raid for it right?
grizzled orbit
acc bounded? 😛
lusty grotto
no character bound
grizzled orbit
guess i wait then for my 12s
grizzled orbit
how come
lusty grotto
and then wait for all 12s for Tome + Pace
cause raid heroic gear isnt locked to anything
they are on the list, so make sure you read it
misty moth
You don't even need to do LFR for the heroic raid stuff?
lusty grotto
you only need to complete the quest
grizzled orbit
havnt play warr since season 1 , we still op?
lusty grotto
thats a very broad question
we are the highest dps tank, but we're not meta
hopefully that answers it
grizzled orbit
hmm no more ignore pain spam? ;:P
lusty grotto
you were never supposed to spam it
patent scroll
Oh yeah, what do you do when avatar, roars and Demolish desync? Do you just send?
Usually at least avatar and demo are up, but roars like 10 seconds away
jagged pier
The new serotonin hit when HoC, Tome crit, demo 10 stacks, and all cds line up and u get tier set proc
wicked pollen
The new serotonin hit when HoC, Tome crit, demo 10 stacks, and all cds line up a...
jakey i got bad news
new yoda video people are gonna start spamming here
jagged pier
jagged pier
Dont really care what hes posts dont effect me
grizzled orbit
hmm at 625ilvl, shud i just farm +6s or 7s?
jagged pier
Teir 8 delves
lusty grotto
jagged pier
Cause they faster and gunna give u the same gear
misty moth
First week you can get 8 coffer keys if you did rep last season
grizzled orbit
tier 8 delvs what gear and crest does it drop without key. im not farming those anoying
grizzled orbit
yeah
lusty grotto
map = hero gear
grizzled orbit
yeah i prob need runed
tribal wharf
someone said new yoda video?
unborn island
Yoda said warrior is bad is ded class?
lusty grotto
videos arent the problem
tribal wharf
Yoda said warrior is bad is ded class?
showed with evidence
lusty grotto
its the dumb idiots that come here with his takes
tribal wharf
more different than stating it
grizzled orbit
whats the biggest diff from season 1 as prot? more revenge spam?
tribal wharf
submitting it as verifiable proof
unborn island
showed with evidence
If course, how could I be so stupid.
Yoda PROOVED THAT WARRIOR IS ASS, so no, nobody will accept a warrior tank to a 10 and you should reroll
lusty grotto
whats the biggest diff from season 1 as prot? more revenge spam?
read the wowhead guide
a lot of what youre asking is right there
tribal wharf
also fine, i relented and played first lvl of dtda, might finish might not, maybe but it, havent decided
unborn island
(disclaimer: I haven't seen the video, or know what it says, in fact I've watched a few of his warrior runs which have been nice, I'm just memeing badly)
tribal wharf
If course, how could I be so stupid.
Yoda PROOVED THAT WARRIOR IS ASS, so no, ...
this is a major factor to my thinking about wow
that the dev team knows this
and its fine
solid sun
He just has some different talent takes I think
Likes fueled by violence over brutal vitality and also likes thunderlord as col
round pendant
both are fair picks in the key levels he's doing
tribal wharf
bdk is 14 mins of a 38 minute video LOL and true
pallid quiver
If course, how could I be so stupid.
Yoda PROOVED THAT WARRIOR IS ASS, so no, ...
never forget in SL S4 when I was rejected from a +2 and was whispered back that I was an idiot and P War literally couldn't live +2s
round pendant
lmao
cerulean tusk
I dont regret sending that whisper
pallid quiver
smh should have known it was a cat
lusty grotto
cats can be jerks
cerulean tusk
SLs4 was BDK, or get out
round pendant
Yoda is cappin though by saying brutal vitality is nowhere close to FbV
cerulean tusk
Why did you mention that name. WHY DID YOU MENTION THAT NAME?!
round pendant
he used the fact it did 220m of his self healing as evidence for FbV > BV
when I'm pretty sure BV would easily provide just as much extra IP
🤔
cerulean tusk
Can we please start just a sentence with Yoda, then not write anything else? If Yoda is in the sentence it should look like this:
chilly brook
Yoda
round pendant
Someone mentioned his video so I'm checking it out
tribal wharf
yoda man
round pendant
It's prot war related so I'm yapping about it
lusty grotto
yogi
pallid quiver
someone mentioned his video so i just kept playing morrowind
cerulean tusk
I respect Yogi more than Yoda at this point
pallid quiver
There's new Tamriel Rebuilt content to get through
round pendant
sadly I have nothing to play plus I have a migraine
so this is my choice of entertainment rn
pallid quiver
I am 100% unaffected by any of Yoda's takes, vids, or anything; I can just argue based on what people provide in front of me in terms of logs and vods and what I can parse from logs and vods
round pendant
So what's your take on FbV vs BV Luerce