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lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:18 PM

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because they thought it was too high APM

left meteor Apr 10, 2025, 5:18 PM

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lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:18 PM

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but honestly its fine cause we were swimming in rage

left meteor Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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This is the gate

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Even before it was massive for your single target

toxic gyro Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Always been a thing. In the past weeks would sometimes use it for thunderclap in aoe situations.

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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lusty grotto because they thought it was too high APM

🥲

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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we dont do thane anymore though

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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I’m doing 15s and I’m never rage starved. Sounds like you might not have enough haste or are playing the rotation wrong?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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yeah its a you issue

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM

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https://youtu.be/B-XhTfTqdTQ?si=eNKcTZ5vRKTS86EV

YouTube

YoDaTV

Use THESE Strats to Time Your Next Operation: Floodgate! (11.1)

some of the stuff has been fixed circa 4/4/2025

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Like last minute of the video

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Quite literally no danger

toxic gyro Apr 10, 2025, 5:20 PM

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lusty grotto we dont do thane anymore though

I’m getting tired of colossus. It’s ass to gather packs and snap aggro, especially with stupid dps.

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:20 PM

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lusty grotto yeah its a you issue

hey man no need to insult him. He just needs to learn to properly track outburst. Positive attitude helps people improve

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:20 PM

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its not an insult

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:20 PM

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toxic gyro I’m getting tired of colossus. It’s ass to gather packs and snap aggro, especial...

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lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:20 PM

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idk why that is an insult

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:20 PM

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You have roar and ravager

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That should be plenty of snap aggro

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I play with an Ele shaman and don’t have any issues really

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Haven’t had issues with the UH DK that sometimes comes in either

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:21 PM

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@worldly mural did you consider that an insult?

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:21 PM

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... how is saying to someone who is making a gameplay mistake is a quote "a you issue" not insulting?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:22 PM

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how is

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"it's a you issue" an insult?

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:22 PM

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Anyway

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:22 PM

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https://youtube.com/shorts/_LhsDRFPe-o?si=42dL9inaYq00SnAR

YouTube

Megasett

Skip Bubbles and Jumpstarters in Operation: Floodgate • #thewarw...

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lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:22 PM

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just because you consider it one, doesnt mean the resto do

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:22 PM

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Quite literally a monk healer doing the skip for everyone lol

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Don’t have to be a tank

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:22 PM

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baklad you have issues

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:23 PM

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I haven't done any keys on prot this season, was just my observation on target dummies bc I made the switch to vdh. Didn't like the feel of prot anymore

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 5:23 PM

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chilly brook Quite literally no danger

This might be slightly risky if your DPS that has Meld doesn’t have a good enough movement ability to get to bridge and meld and be out of re-aggro range. Typically only classes with leaps are doing melds. I’m sure it can be done just higher risk.

toxic gyro Apr 10, 2025, 5:23 PM

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chilly brook I play with an Ele shaman and don’t have any issues really

I don’t have issue holding aggro if dps don’t insta burst before packs are gathered. The issue is gathering packs and ppl insta going ham. As thane it was less of issue bc how much dmg tb was doing.

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:23 PM

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gentle violet This might be slightly risky if your DPS that has Meld doesn’t have a good enoug...

Well yeah you shouldn’t be the one facilitating the skip if you don’t have movement

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:23 PM

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lusty grotto <@121355140568580098> did you consider that an insult?

I mean it wasn't helpful

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:23 PM

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This is true of any meld skip

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But like even a warlock could do bubbles

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:24 PM

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😆

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Hey as lock main

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:24 PM

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They just have to get a setup before he spawns

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:24 PM

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I take that personally

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lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:24 PM

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worldly mural I mean it wasn't helpful

but was it an insult? hard to be helpful without logs tbh

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:24 PM

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Lots of classes could do it

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:24 PM

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lusty grotto but was it an insult? hard to be helpful without logs tbh

Usually you say that to be insulting yes

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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There’s no way saying “that’s a you issue” is an insult. Prot warrior not feeling well because of something that’s a rotational error is absolutely a “you issue” as opposed to a “prot warrior issue”

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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lusty grotto just because you consider it one, doesnt mean the resto do

just because you don't consider it one doesn't mean other don't as well. It's the the implication and demeaning attitude of it. We had already addressed what his gameplay problem was, then you just say "yeah, its your fault" with no feedback

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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apparently i have to walk on eggshells now

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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Doesn’t rocket belt still work?

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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I mean he’s being blunt

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It’s okay

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Next topic lol 😆

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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If you didn't mean it that way then idc

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:25 PM

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The old engineering speed boost?

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Pretty sure I’ve seen blood DKs with it in keys

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:26 PM

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chilly brook Pretty sure I’ve seen blood DKs with it in keys

the wraith one? yes

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:26 PM

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If it does then literally anyone could do bubbles lol

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Even a priest

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:27 PM

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Anyone know a war coach who only coaches WARlock and WARrior players

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🤣 sry was kinda being silly with that one

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:27 PM

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Idk if it would count as coaching but I can always offer feedback 🙂

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:27 PM

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Much funnier in my head

toxic gyro Apr 10, 2025, 5:27 PM

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chilly brook The old engineering speed boost?

It has reduced value in instances content. Still better than nothing.

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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small steeple just because you *don't* consider it one doesn't mean other don't as well. It's ...

you didnt address anything, you made an assumption

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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I’ll yell at you for not pressing the purple button on warlock

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okayge

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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lusty grotto you didnt address anything, you made an assumption

I asked him if he tracked violent outburst and use it on SS. He said he didn't.

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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and its probably not the single cause of his problem

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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How is that an assumption

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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he didnt provide logs

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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Indeed

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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you dont know if thats the only thing hes doing wrong

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so its an assumption

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:28 PM

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chatting

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Y'all chill lol it's fine

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:29 PM

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But we know it is a thing done wrong, or potentially, due to not tracking it. Never said it was the only thing, nor try to imply that

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:29 PM

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i cant understand why this guy is ALWAYS ON MY ASS

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:29 PM

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Because your always on me

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:29 PM

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but im not

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youre the one that started yapping

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about a statement being an insult

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 5:31 PM

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Fine, how about I rephrase it. Saying "it's a you issue" is unhelpful and provides nothing of value to the discussion.

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:31 PM

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why is it every time I look in here somebody is fighting with nim

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:31 PM

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🤷‍♂️

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Let me rephrase my question

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:32 PM

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can you provide logs Hammie?

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:32 PM

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No I didn't do any keys on it

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I was hitting dummies lol

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I said this shit ass and went to vdh

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:32 PM

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what are you spec'ed as

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Nim told me that because I’m doing 13s on my alt warrior , race swapping is not relevant to me… I’m crying now with my saved $30

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:32 PM

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thane or colossus?

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:33 PM

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I tries colossus since that’s what everyone’s doing

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:33 PM

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ok well going with this, since i dont have logs

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i can make some assumptions

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which have been touched already

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youre pressing IP too much

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:33 PM

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I was trying to play it like I'm used to playing it which was spamming IP between lots of gcds yes

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:33 PM

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you have to be smarter with rage

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you cannot mindlessly spam IP, or revenge

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:34 PM

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In the past though IP would be chewed through so fast that it was necessary, so if I was barely pressing it against dummies, in my head I thought to myself how could this be sustainable in a dungeon?

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:34 PM

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worldly mural In the past though IP would be chewed through so fast that it was necessary, so ...

ip is a rage dump

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uptime is almost not cared about

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press it at 60-80 rage

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:35 PM

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colossus relies on Brutal Vitality

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Interesting

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:35 PM

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since you do big damage

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very important

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you were using IP as thane, for the reason Scatter mentioned

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because you were capping constantly (still do as Thane, just slower)

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you cannot do the same as Colossus

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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🙁

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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your rage is there for Revenges

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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worldly mural Interesting

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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I really liked thane, I hope they buff it more

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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Almost 80% uptime as Colo

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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and if you cap, and/or need an IP to help out for a specific damage scenario, then you can use it, but do not ever rage starve yourself

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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chilly brook

That's better than I thought

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:36 PM

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the alternative is you can just play thane at a bit of efficiency loss and figure out warrior a bit more

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if you're doing +7s or some shit im sure no one will bat an eye

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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at a considerable dps loss

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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I'm no stranger to warrior DW, I just really don't like colossus tbh

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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fixed that for you Scatter

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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lusty grotto at a *considerable dps loss*

I mean you’ll just be getting the AR VDH experience

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keks

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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lol

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well youre not wrong

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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lusty grotto fixed that for you Scatter

im a simple man i like the funny stomps

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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if someone is having rage issues they are probably bad at using SS/SS resets

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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Same lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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thats also true

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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also don't forget dummies aren't really the best for testing on because you get rage from getting hit as prot

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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and outburst like Baklad mentioned before he went on a tirade

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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I mean I use SS every time it's up

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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as you should

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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First prio

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I just wasn't tracking outburst before bc I never needed to cuz I wasn't having this issue

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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you needed to

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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that's the goal but I've seen plenty of logs (including my own) where SS casts are quite a bit lower than they could be

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Honestly didn't know it could be consumed by something other than ss

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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we've tracked outburst since our SL tier

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you shouldnt NOT track it

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Yeah I just joined the discord 30 minutes ago lol

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I just play with some friends for fun

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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ok well now you know

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Ya ty

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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long bronze that's the goal but I've seen plenty of logs (including my own) where SS casts a...

There are pulls where you can just revenge spam and just press shield slam on outburst, but it requires some target number

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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usually with ravager

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c:

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ez revenge spam

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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We take ravager again?

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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usually

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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on colossus you just need to be slightly more thoughtful about whether or not you really have the rage for IP this second or not, sometimes you need to bank a bit in case your next couple revenges don't give you a ss reset

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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Kms

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:40 PM

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worldly mural We take ravager again?

what talents are you using?

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see

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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but if you're playing well there's no gcd downtimes

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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we need information

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else we can only assume

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so "its a you issue" is probably the best thing we can say

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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Sounds like it was a you issue. I hope you find pwar fun now that you can alter your gameplay some to take advantage of the new tech you’re learning

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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ok but dont forget forget that at the end of the day this is nomeratur propaganda the true warrior rotation is whirlwind > rend > slam (this is a meme please never bind any of these 3 buttons past level 10)

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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there are some places you do need to be more deliberate about IP, like 1st boss in priory

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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WW for the Win

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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lusty grotto so "its a you issue" is probably the best thing we can say

We went full circle again huh

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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i aint gonna drop it

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i dont forget

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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why the fuck are badkad and nimchip always arguing

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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solid sun Sounds like it was a you issue. I hope you find pwar fun now that you can alter ...

Well I hope I find it fun too, warrior is my CLASS

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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There was no way I wasn’t gonna get one in there

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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you can also just play thane like

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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I love Hammie and I’m still gonna say it

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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it doesn't matter

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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round pendant why the fuck are badkad and nimchip always arguing

the biggest enemy in wow will never be raid mechanics or key pushing, but social interaction

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:42 PM

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Discord had me shaking my head there for a minute

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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long bronze it doesn't matter

Poop damage makes brain sad

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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Shake that booty instead

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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thane prob still does more dam than vdh lol

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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u guys should mine amethyst ull be a lot happier

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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hmm

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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nah I quit osrs

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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i mean getting 92 mining in the first place is sociopathic, but afterwards its chill

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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round pendant nah I quit osrs

i did too i just came back

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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I can’t wait to give logs to Nim

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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I have 167 keys this season on my war so maybe I also am sociopathic

zealous goblet Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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mortal edge I can’t wait to give logs to Nim

like... poop logs?

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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I know I have 19.5k haste but I'm gonna run HR anyway

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fight me

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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do you have four set

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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that is am omega level throw

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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mighty valley do you have four set

yeah

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:44 PM

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why would you ever do that

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Bc he wants to

worldly mural Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Anyway when's the next fury nerf

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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HR is comfy

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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it goes back to being pretty brainless with tier this season, so long as you're actually pressing SS and shield charge when they're up

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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mortal edge I can’t wait to give logs to Nim

I gave Nim logs

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Poop logs could’ve been sent through dm 20 mins ago

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Now I’m forced to log and send info tn

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:45 PM

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mighty valley it goes back to being pretty brainless with tier this season, so long as you're ...

Ya think? I did a few keys and felt like I had to focus on not letting sb drop

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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just post in #1347646810457636974 on a new thread and tag me

round pendant Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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it was effort that I don't feel like making for 10s

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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Nim you want logs and a vod

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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you literally just have to hit SB when it's off CD and with 19k haste it'll be up perma, idk

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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both are fine but logs more important

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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Yes okay got it

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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that's rough to take -7% dps for that

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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I’ll do 2 - dungeon I’m confident and one I’m not

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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with ITF pre-tier, I did think I had to sometimes think about sb being up

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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I want to be a god at DFC.

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:47 PM

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and not having the ITF haste would feel like playing in glue

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:47 PM

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post-tier, it's just up all the time, zero brain

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:47 PM

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Only dungeon I cringe to tank

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:48 PM

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mighty valley with ITF pre-tier, I did think I had to sometimes think about sb being up

I had 1 bad luck no tier proc in a 12s cinderbrew, second pull sb dropped for 0.00001 seconds, my hp didn’t move an inch but I procced bsv keks

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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sounds about right

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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mortal edge Only dungeon I cringe to tank

Dfc?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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but at least it could have been worse

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Yeah

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Why it’s literally the easiest one

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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not having ravager in cinderbrew

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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I just don’t like it

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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is inting

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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As a tank

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I got to be a bit more fluid with it

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But I just hate it. I love every other one

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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rock throwers at the start are annoying but that's about it tbh

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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I’m a sick fuck. I love priory and floodgate

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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also do people not realize they're gonna goof SB and not hit SW

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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youre not the only one, we've had a lot of people here say the same thing

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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ML top tier too

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Feel like dfc you can disrupting shout the casters and then there’s always pillars to Los for gather

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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i enjoy floodgate a lot but dps complain... i guess they have to do things sometimes

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los for father

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Floodgate is my favorite dungeon this season

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Flood is the right balance

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Big pulls small pulls

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Hard pulls

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Ez and hard bosses

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Very balanced

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Imo flood is one of the best dungeons they’ve ever designed

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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yeah its definitely a step up in dungeon design

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Big MOMMA

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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I agree

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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i agree

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Bro so many options

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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🤝 all around

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Routes and it’s good

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Idk if it beats freehold in my heart

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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has there every been a single player in history that liked the physical caster mobs in any dungeon

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dunno why blizzard always has to put them in somewhere

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Halls of Atonement has been my favorite

oak ivy Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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are we talking rock throw DFC

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and the like

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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sure

oak ivy Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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yuck

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Yeah they are a nuisance

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That’s all

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Throw flesh

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Like an 8 year or

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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I also very much dislike bosses that don't move when they are casting

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Old

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:53 PM

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i didn't like the very start of freehold

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:54 PM

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and then proceed to cast like 6 things in a row where you need them to move

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:54 PM

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bird shit themed area... no thank you

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everything else was good though

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:54 PM

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lol **

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:55 PM

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solid sun Halls of Atonement has been my favorite

i'd love to go back to halls now that we have spell block lol

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cover all the bolts no one was kicking

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second boss was kind of ass though

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:56 PM

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Im not against tol dagor, if they remove cannons

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:56 PM

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cannons and pulling through ceilings

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:57 PM

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TD pure C

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I hate that place

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:57 PM

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mighty valley i'd love to go back to halls now that we have spell block lol

Would be a blast

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:57 PM

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First pull of TD ahh

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:57 PM

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TD had some great bosses

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 5:57 PM

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Yeah

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:57 PM

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twilight dev mentioned

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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Twilight dev in Tol dagor

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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TD isnt gonna do that much dps this time around though

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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it just needs to do 13% damage

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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Last I saw ritual is the best one

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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so I can go back to unnerfed damage

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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its doing very minimal damage

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and thats kind of fine

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 5:59 PM

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Fully depends on damage they give it or if it is target capped like they did mid season of bfa

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:59 PM

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its already posted in wowhead

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 5:59 PM

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everyone would be mad if they made the optional midseason event thing mandatory

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 5:59 PM

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or was, i cant find it rn

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:00 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/bfa-corruption-effects-return-as-new-enchants-in-patch-11-1-5-375650

Wowhead

BFA Corruption Effects Return as New Enchants in Patch 11.1.5

On the Patch 11.1.5 PTR, new enchants are available which are based off of Battle for Azeroth's Corruption Effects, including Twilight Devastation, Infinite Stars and Gushing Wound!

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:00 PM

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ty

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:00 PM

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IMO it will be more like Amir head enchants

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Just kinda passive damage meant to slowly nerf content

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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Doggo

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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I am a bit disappointed because I remember corruption being sick as hell and these are cheap imitations.

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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I mean

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Yeah

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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at least you won't get rooted and have a creepy mob run at you

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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I think old corruptions were fun but also super heavy on borrowed power

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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its fine for the health of the game

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but idk why you guys keep remembering TD

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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Having shit that powerful feels bad when you lose it

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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since we versatile'd in high keys

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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What you expect with all these DKs and shamans now - they can’t bring back full fledge expedient lol

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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cuz one was fun and the other was dumb

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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I love borrowed power

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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oh i agree

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with Trrriple

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not with Rhino

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fuck that

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Borrowed power is dumb imo

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Borrowed power is so sick

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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I did like legion artifact weapon system

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Borrowed power makes me look better cause I lack fundamentals

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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i mean its fine if its season length

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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So I’m with rhino

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lol 😆

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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oh I'm sorry you popped all your cds on this 15 mob pull? I DELETED IT ALREADY WITH TD

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:02 PM

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just not expansion length with grinds associated with it

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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Even if they give regular TD, it was stacked with mutiple TD corruptions for more fun

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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tier is borrowed power

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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yeah and cuz it was based on HP

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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tier sets, i mean

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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indom is now a dps talent

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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but its fine as it is

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:03 PM

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lusty grotto tier is borrowed power

Yea but not in the same way because there is tier every tier

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:04 PM

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It’s consistently borrowing power

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lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:04 PM

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no additional grinds, not throughout all expansion

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:04 PM

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I am an AP grinder fiend

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:04 PM

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Shit like corruptions were just extra shit you had to do to be competitive

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:04 PM

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My skill set is that Incan break my head against a wall for hours until a different result is had

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:05 PM

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the issue is there are two types of people

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:05 PM

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Kinda like delves - good content for the people who enjoy it but I don’t wanna be forced into delves for an entire season to get my spark

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:05 PM

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those who want to play alts that those systems punish heavily, and those who usually stick to one toon and those systems give them something to do

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Is it still an issue now they renamed account wide into war bound ?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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and those who just want to play the game not full time anymore because theyve done it in the past and would rather do other shit outside of the game

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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They still can imo

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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alt folks are just on that gear upgrade dopamine treadmill because they reach a difficulty ceiling where it's not worth it to them so they swap to another toon

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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They just give in to their fomo and feel like they can’t

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Not always true

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I main the warlock and I tank on warrior

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Because I like being disappointed every Tuesday

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Double W

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:07 PM

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All jokes aside I enjoy the grind

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I like learning and pushing. This is the first time in a long time I’m taking leaps to get better

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Logging and vod review

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Game in a great state can do a lot

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:08 PM

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I just see it too often the mediocre at everything player with 15 alts because they never actually play something long enough to get good at it

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and want you to help then with their 50th weekly key

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:08 PM

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I feel you actually

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That’s a good and valid point

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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those people are either A) more interested in rewards than challenges, or B) insecure fotm chasers

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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Yeah rerollite disease is synonym with bad, I switch every patch my main but I only play 1 char (with my warrior on the side) through season

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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Fotm does have it perks tho

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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i mean i do alts but for professions

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at least now

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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Like prio in group forming

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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I think A is a large part of it, concisely said

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:09 PM

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but in the past ive had 2-4 alts doing high end content

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i just dont have time anymore

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:10 PM

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I'll take somebody whos genuinly an expert at their role/spec/class over a FOTM Fred any day of the week

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:10 PM

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or rather, i appreciate my time off the game a lot more

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:10 PM

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I'm that way about midway through the season

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:11 PM

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I legit only to main my prot ( keys only ) and lock ( all aspects )

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I have other alts for professions and lower content with friends

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:11 PM

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where my toon is maxed, I've done the m+ stuff I want to do and mostly log in for mythic prog

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:11 PM

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long bronze I'll take somebody whos genuinly an expert at their role/spec/class over a FOTM ...

I take the fotm reroller if he only plays that, 1 fotm spec every patch, not every fotm spec at the same time

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:11 PM

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However I am dead serious about the 2

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:12 PM

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like at this point I'm 3k+, but want to push some more but half the m+ group I'd like to play with is on their 2/3 alt doing what I mentioned before, it's frustrating

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:12 PM

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Tough for sure

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Gotta meet more people

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Dude it’s why I started a discord server again and friended people.

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:12 PM

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sharp gale I take the fotm reroller if he only plays that, 1 fotm spec every patch, not eve...

tank fotm rerollers are probably slightly better since realistically you don't end up having to play that many specs over each expansion

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:12 PM

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First time since BFA honestly

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:12 PM

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but like... all these people who hop on mage whenever it's good... and are so bad at it...

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:13 PM

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it's a class that takes a long time to master

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like you can maybe do good dps with it

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but you're not doing to use your utility, or defensives well

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:13 PM

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Yeah

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:14 PM

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healer rerollers are the most frustrating to me

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:14 PM

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mighty valley tank fotm rerollers are probably slightly better since realistically you don't e...

There is 2 type in this case, the tank who reroll to fotm tank and the havoc dh who switch spec for the first time ever

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:14 PM

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yeah healers are all pretty different

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:14 PM

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because you need to learn when you need throughput etc and each healer is going to play hard stuff so different

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:14 PM

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I typically play a main character for a full expansion and then swap during the prepatch of the next expansion. And keep a character or two as alts that primarily just chill

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:14 PM

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anyways I'm done whining now

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chatting

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:15 PM

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Nah you good

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Makes sense

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:16 PM

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yeah i agree with most of it

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and even if i didn't, its a slow day and not a lot of questions so it would be fine

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:17 PM

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Thane > Col after the nerfs ?

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:17 PM

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is thane the play now

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yknow. on account of the nerfs

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:18 PM

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ok

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calm down

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:18 PM

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Do you think there will be pwar tuning for .5 ?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:18 PM

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LOL

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:18 PM

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lusty grotto and even if i didn't, its a slow day and not a lot of questions so it would be f...

Sounds like a you issue

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Hahahah

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:19 PM

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is there a tier list for the .5 patch

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:19 PM

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when do we replace thunderfury

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and I assume thunderfury is better for thane because of the lightning?

steady mason Apr 10, 2025, 6:19 PM

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sharp gale Thane > Col after the nerfs ?

nerfs? I never switched off MT 🙂

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:19 PM

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start 2 hours topic on vdh

nocturne spindle Apr 10, 2025, 6:19 PM

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Did someone say

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Thunderfury

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:19 PM

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Don’t do it haha

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I need one

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How long it take

jagged gust Apr 10, 2025, 6:20 PM

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mighty valley is there a tier list for the .5 patch

Pink and purple man on top, brown and red man on bottom

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green never was a tank to begin with

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:20 PM

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I got glaives in 3 weeks

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How lucky do I gotta be for thunder fury

long bronze Apr 10, 2025, 6:20 PM

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warrior in general is just not allowed to be good, you should know that

nocturne spindle Apr 10, 2025, 6:20 PM

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I got it in two weeks

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Just get lucky

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:20 PM

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"is vdh easier to play", the greatest thread in the history of discord, locked by a moderator after 12239 pages of heated debate

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:20 PM

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Can we normalize giving pi to prot war on trash

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Watching a ret pal get pi over me hurts me physically

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:21 PM

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jagged gust green never was a tank to begin with

Thank god no tank is green

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Except hunters when they extra pull

jagged gust Apr 10, 2025, 6:21 PM

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idk I've tanked at least 3 raid bosses as a hunter

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:22 PM

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I have a 603 alt hunter and I never use defensives, I’ve tanked tons of keys

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Maybe not in the way you mean, but tanked nonetheless

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:24 PM

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in floodgate i saw 2 times the hunter pet die on second boss because he kill commands the other dude

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:24 PM

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I act like I’m gonna pull the boss but then don’t and let some dps do it and watch them die

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And then I start tanking

sharp gale Apr 10, 2025, 6:25 PM

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me when i don't take the portal in ToP and wait my friend to take it

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Then I hit them with “you pull it you tank it”

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:26 PM

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I had a shaman today in dfc scream at me about aggro because we losed behind the wall (I said this beforehand)

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:26 PM

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steady mason nerfs? I never switched off MT 🙂

they're memeing

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Entire team is just sitting there waiting as he pops ascendance and goes all in and just gets steamrolled

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:27 PM

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The first time I tried pulling everything in priory’s first pull to the outside of the wall

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I went over with my friends what was gonna happen

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And our BM Hunter still ran in and started blasting

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At least the run back is right there

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-started-blasting-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-danny-devito-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-blasting-gif-24425727

Tenor

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Literally lol

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:34 PM

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frosty mango Can we normalize giving pi to prot war on trash

There is diminishing returns on Prot War haste though, if you can already keep shield block up all the time and usually can keep ignore pain on at some absorb level, I would prioritize Crit or Vers.

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:35 PM

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PI is percent based

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it doesnt DR

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so youre wrong

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 6:36 PM

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That’s a them problem

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We tryna get PI over here

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:43 PM

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gentle violet There is diminishing returns on Prot War haste though, if you can already keep s...

Yes that’s all true but not how PI works, like Nim said it’s percentage based so it is both a survival boost and dps boost because of how it increases rage generation

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:44 PM

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You would have to sim it but the point is that there is a threshold of when more haste wouldn’t be better than more crit for DPS as colossus.

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Give a good prot war Pi during lust on a fat aoe pull and watch them outdps half the dps classes

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:45 PM

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gentle violet You would have to sim it but the point is that there is a threshold of when more...

no, not really this doesnt apply to PI or lust

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:45 PM

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gentle violet You would have to sim it but the point is that there is a threshold of when more...

That’s also true but irrelevant for the conversation because pi doesn’t give crit it gives haste %

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:45 PM

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youre talking specifically gearing

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PI or lust should not be factored in

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they are % based, they do not diminish

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:45 PM

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And I feel like the haste value you’d need to prio crit over haste is pretty large

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:46 PM

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youre not gonna do that

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because PI and lust are not available all the time

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diminishing talks should be reserved for ratings

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:47 PM

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Only way we ask for PI is if no dps class needs it. That’s why I brought survivability into the convo. The only way you would get PI as a tank over dps is if you needed it to survive and I’m saying if you have high enough haste as prot, you don’t need anymore for defense. Thus, you would just never give us PI in 99% of situations.

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:47 PM

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as its the only thing that affects it

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:47 PM

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gentle violet Only way we ask for PI is if no dps class needs it. That’s why I brought surviva...

…..no

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:47 PM

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youre taking the PI thing too seriously

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nobody is gonna get PI over a dps

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it was a meme

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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Pi doesn’t give haste rating it gives haste percent, and I was saying it jokingly because some dps are bad

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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haste stays our best defensive stat for a long ass time since it most seriously impacts rage gain. but no, realistically we are not gonna get PI over dps lol

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......unless

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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If you have a DPS class that benefits from PI more than us, why would you prioritize giving it to us unless we need it to survive?

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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Unless we normalize it

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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That’s all I’m saying.

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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people were just joking

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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But let’s be real there are some keys we do when some of these people would get less dps out of pi than us

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lol

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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... until we normalize it

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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And we don’t need it to survive so realistically we would never get it.

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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it was just a joke

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this is the dangers of meme'ing folks

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sadge

cerulean burrow Apr 10, 2025, 6:49 PM

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where is our mandated reading comprehension test

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:49 PM

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Just because we save the people who would have choked on their own tongues and died 100 years ago doesn’t mean I have to suppress my memeing

cerulean burrow Apr 10, 2025, 6:50 PM

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its okay if i choke on my own tongue you can leave me behind its chill

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 6:50 PM

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So let’s meme hard enough that there’s a wowhead post on pi prot warriors during giga Chad pulls

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Or nah? lol

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 6:51 PM

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cerulean burrow its okay if i choke on my own tongue you can leave me behind its chill

Be careful you didn’t mark that as sarcasm, people may get confused

cerulean burrow Apr 10, 2025, 6:51 PM

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oh yeah i was being sarcastic haha

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:51 PM

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does anyone go to mtg enough to remember Popeye Stompy

cerulean burrow Apr 10, 2025, 6:53 PM

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ill be real with ya chief might just be the late zoomer in me but i dont understand like a 1/3rd of that sentence

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:53 PM

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lmao

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mtg, or Magic The Gathering, is the oldest and most popular trading card game,

cerulean burrow Apr 10, 2025, 6:53 PM

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oh im a dumbass

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 6:54 PM

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anyway "popeye stompy" was a deck that some pros pretended existed, acting like it was some secret powerful brew that used really old bad pirate cards

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except many people did not understand that it was a meme

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and the prices of those terrible cards shot up for a day

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the prices of loose meming...

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 6:55 PM

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lusty grotto *it was just a joke*

Gosh I gotta lighten up a bit huh!

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 7:00 PM

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lol I like how it was mentioned multiple times it was just a goof

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But you were so locked in on getting our boy up to speed on how stats work for us you were zooming right by it

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Now then, since it’s been proven here that we are the best PI target ill start spreading the news

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 7:02 PM

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lol, nice

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I’m a warrior discord rookie still, getting acclimated in many ways

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:04 PM

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How are pugs in 12s and 13s rn? I'm assuming it's just hit or miss as usual

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wanted some other prot war experiences pugging those higher keys

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:05 PM

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gentle violet I’m a warrior discord rookie still, getting acclimated in many ways

We are s tier shitposters

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:06 PM

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frosty mango We are s tier shitposters

best class discord on the market

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:06 PM

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granite briar How are pugs in 12s and 13s rn? I'm assuming it's just hit or miss as usual

12s are fine, 13s can be a little rough depending

gentle violet Apr 10, 2025, 7:07 PM

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#MakeRallyGreatAgain

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30% I’m talking

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:08 PM

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A lot of players got carried through 12s last week so now they’re trying to do 13s and unfortunately you can’t really hedge against “does this 3k player use their kicks and do boss damage”

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Sometimes you get a gem, sometimes you get a turd

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:09 PM

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frosty mango A lot of players got carried through 12s last week so now they’re trying to do 1...

I thought I was behind on ilvl at 666, just got base 10s last night beacuse i didnt think i was high enough ilvl to push those higher keys.

low and behold people are pushing 14s with 665, so it's pushing time now to get 3k

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Byproduct of this being what might be the easiest season of m+ ever at the lower ends of what folks consider “high keys”

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:09 PM

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frosty mango Byproduct of this being what might be the easiest season of m+ ever at the lower...

I've never pushed this high before, I figured it was a pretty easy season

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:10 PM

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granite briar I thought I was behind on ilvl at 666, just got base 10s last night beacuse i di...

Ilvl is a pointless measure imo because the game vomits gear on you - most of the “good” players got 3k on week one or two and are now in the 14-15 range so the players pugging 13s now are a lot of players who in prior seasons were not necessarily the players who strategized how they use kicks and stops effectively

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I’ve had good success in using number of completed keys and prior season ratings to find decent pugs but just because someone is 3k and 665 ilvl doesn’t mean they will be decent sadly

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:11 PM

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frosty mango Ilvl is a pointless measure imo because the game vomits gear on you - most of th...

I've been trying to reevaluate how I look at measures, but I guess I'm still looking at what's gonna get you invited to a key

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:12 PM

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granite briar I've been trying to reevaluate how I look at measures, but I guess I'm still loo...

If you wanna get invited to keys consistently just play vdh or disc priest

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That parts easy okayge

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:12 PM

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frosty mango If you wanna get invited to keys consistently just play vdh or disc priest

I was gonna say that lol

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problem is if I went to vdh I wouldn't be nearly as good as if I stuck with prot (or having as much fun..)

round cliff Apr 10, 2025, 7:13 PM

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i tried vdh and it doesn't have charge

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idk how to feel now

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i miss charge

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:13 PM

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As you climb the io scale it becomes harder and harder to get invites to keys as non meta classes until eventually converging at the top where you will just never get invited

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:13 PM

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round cliff idk how to feel now

why tf do they have a weird heroic leap

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feels bad man

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:13 PM

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granite briar why tf do they have a weird heroic leap

So they can leap into packs with no armor or demon spikes and die

round cliff Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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granite briar feels bad man

i like the leaps but im using it for dps so it's not even that cool

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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some DHs i talk to fucking hate charge, i don't get it

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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frosty mango So they can leap into packs with no armor or demon spikes and die

kek

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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it puts me exactly where i want to be!! dh movement feels like ice skates to me

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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mighty valley it puts me exactly where i want to be!! dh movement feels like ice skates to me

EXACTLY

round cliff Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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id rather have leap and doubletime charge than 2 leaps

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tbh

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but i also like being able to jump glide

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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Charge is great until you charge into a pack and it puts you in front of them, then you get blasted in the back by 10 mobs

round cliff Apr 10, 2025, 7:14 PM

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to jump on things

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:15 PM

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round cliff but i also like being able to jump glide

I have this cool race called a Dracthyr for you

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 7:15 PM

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yeah charge does have its funky desync moments i guess

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:15 PM

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frosty mango Charge is great until you charge into a pack and it puts you in front of them, t...

this happens to me with Demolish, I use it on a mob, mob walks behind me, turning my back to the pack, I finish the cast, I'm dead

round cliff Apr 10, 2025, 7:15 PM

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granite briar I have this cool race called a Dracthyr for you

i like transmog

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:16 PM

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I don’t think prot has colossus smash

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Your problem is that you’re tanking as arms

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 7:16 PM

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it's a smash and the colossus spec has it

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:16 PM

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frosty mango Your problem is that you’re tanking as arms

LOL i meant Demolish, I get those names mixed up

granite briar Apr 10, 2025, 7:16 PM

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mighty valley it's a smash and the colossus spec has it

this guy gets it

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:17 PM

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Oh ok good, I was going to say you’re in the wrong channel

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 7:17 PM

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i'd be pretty impressed if you were closing in on 3k rating as arms tank

frosty mango Apr 10, 2025, 7:20 PM

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mighty valley i'd be pretty impressed if you were closing in on 3k rating as arms tank

Hey I managed to pull off some impressive dps as Hpriest

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Crazy what the spec can do if you don’t have to worry about keeping people alive

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:21 PM

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mighty valley i'd be pretty impressed if you were closing in on 3k rating as arms tank

Chad arms tank enjoyer

dark barn Apr 10, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Its just me or you need big damage and almost no deaths to time a cinderbrew 13 in pugs? Tried and failed a lot.

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:41 PM

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I have a question about DH what makes DH the best tank? Cause it doesn’t seem like it’s the tankiest or does the most damage?

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Or maybe it does idk

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 7:43 PM

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anything but damage really

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they are the lowest dps tank with Aldrachi

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Felscarred is more competitive, but people just insta go Aldrachi cause thats what top players are using

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their tankiness is comparative, but they have good self sustain, slightly easier to use when shotcalling, and their toolset is good

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if i had to summarize it

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everyone will mention utility, and thats not entirely false but its not their single strength

left meteor Apr 10, 2025, 7:46 PM

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Solar Beam + Silence Sigil is the best lockdown combo in the game

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 7:47 PM

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and yes thats also another point

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meta dps synergy

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caster comps, etc, and combos like the one Capybaraguy mentioned

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Ah ok so it’s only really meta excuse the pun if you’re too 0.1 with the right comp?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 7:51 PM

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it always is

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at least since DF

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Interesting! What is the best tank alt to pug with then?

vestal moat Apr 10, 2025, 7:55 PM

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for pugging i like prot pally since you can do a lot of mechanics and kicks yourself

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 7:55 PM

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subjective, whatever you enjoy

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try them all out, but if you dont have time for it, both prot pally and vdh are always okay

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:56 PM

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vestal moat for pugging i like prot pally since you can do a lot of mechanics and kicks your...

Nice I was thinking of making a bear or dk

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 7:56 PM

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bear can be easy (and somewhat boring)

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brew is different and has some button bloat but also good to use

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:57 PM

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Ya I like easier characters idk gives me more attention span to pay attention to mechanics

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 7:57 PM

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the meta tank is often the best to pug with because people don't really know why it's meta and will invite it blindly lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 7:57 PM

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yeah

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Harrow does have a point

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 7:57 PM

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Fair enough

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Blood dk is the most fun outside of warrior imo

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For whatever that’s worth

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 8:00 PM

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Would you say dk is easy or hard to play?

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 8:00 PM

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I hate playing vengeance and just can’t get into it at all. Pally can be fun and bear was fun when you could do boomkin shenanigans during I think SL season 2 but that’s not really relevant anymore

woven radish Apr 10, 2025, 8:04 PM

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gentle violet 30% I’m talking

Honestly haven't been taking it on 13's and lower anymore, swapping it to intim for more stops to just help pull those keys bigger

next plover Apr 10, 2025, 8:05 PM

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solid sun I hate playing vengeance and just can’t get into it at all. Pally can be fun and...

I might gear my bear and check it out I’ll let u know 🫡

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:07 PM

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next plover Would you say dk is easy or hard to play?

DK is the hardest tank to play imo

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at least in real content

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 8:08 PM

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That’s just because you’re bad

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:08 PM

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It's the most prone tank to dying to mistakes that aren't immediately obvious

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It's nothing to do with my skill level with the spec

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 8:09 PM

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I’m jk don’t hurt me we’re all friends here it was just a funny goof calm down I bruise easy

pallid quiver Apr 10, 2025, 8:13 PM

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chilly brook It's the most prone tank to dying to mistakes that aren't immediately obvious

It's easier to play imo than some other tanks imo, but this is the main thing with BDK

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A mistake you make can be harder to trace the actual source of

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Since it could be something like you not prepping bone shield properly at the end of DRW, which put you on the backfoot for charges running out and eating your ability to death strike to stay alive

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As compared to something like SB not up, eat shit and die

solid sun Apr 10, 2025, 8:19 PM

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Bear def hardest tank

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No opposable thumbs is rough

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Man, ML13 in Pugs is a whole level of numbness

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It's a weird zone like 7-9 where you got 3k players dying to extractors or rock boss

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Or boss machine gun

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DPS tunnel vision is real

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 8:35 PM

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chilly brook It's nothing to do with my skill level with the spec

A bit weary of elitism around here, no?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 8:36 PM

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doubtful

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:36 PM

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bdk kind of puts more responsibility on yourself

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 8:36 PM

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griff has been around for a while

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:36 PM

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than other tanks doesnt it

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:36 PM

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slender bison A bit weary of elitism around here, no?

wut?

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 8:36 PM

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BDK is the new Legion disc?

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:37 PM

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idk i only do meme content on my red mans

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where sanlayn aint even worth

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Like skill level set aside on blood dk you could be great or you could be bad, you're still prone to dying to mistakes you made several GCDs beforehand

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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Although im surprised more vdhs play felscarred in raid

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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better damage no?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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yeah its better damage

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all around

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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Also kinda easier in raid

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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i thought it was better burst damage

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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It's the same speech with disc ramp. We didn't have the word "RAMP" before Legion disc

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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not sustained

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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yes, but that doesnt mean its still way over aldrachi

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:38 PM

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barring getting lucky with tier resets

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on hunt

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which would give more reaver glaives

dense cradle Apr 10, 2025, 8:40 PM

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chilly brook Also kinda easier in raid

tbh i assumed fs was harder to optimize

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in terms of damage

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:41 PM

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dense cradle tbh i assumed fs was harder to optimize

nah

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Is there any addon that counts the times I've been hit in the back in a dungeon, or is it viewable in any way via Details maybe? I ask because sometimes I'll do a quick spin in say, Cinderbrew, and reposition because near loss of threat, and sometimes I'll notice I nearly die, pop back to full due to battle-scarred veteran popping, but other times I won't see any massive spike, so I'm assuming it was due to my back being turned, if even for a split second.

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:42 PM

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press brand>fel dev>press empowered abilities for demon surge>meta>consume demon surge procs>spam soul cleave

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congrats you play DH gud

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 8:43 PM

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opaque bobcat Is there any addon that counts the times I've been hit in the back in a dungeon,...

Care, that Z-axis WoW is still 2004, so if you leap into a crowd, you can get insta-shot in the wrong angle. Or charge across the stairs in say Rookery

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 8:43 PM

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basically the only thing you care about in single target on DH as vengeance is not capping pain and spending it on soul cleave

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 8:45 PM

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slender bison Care, that Z-axis WoW is still 2004, so if you leap into a crowd, you can get in...

Is there any way to see how often I've messed it up though? Aside from obvious spikes, I'd like to measure it, and I'm not sure if charging and being hit mid-charge can be counted as from behind also, or mid heroic leap, if it's necessary to hold down right click and adjust mid-jump to mitigate dmg

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 8:46 PM

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opaque bobcat Is there any addon that counts the times I've been hit in the back in a dungeon,...

You'd need a log to check how often you're not blocking hits while having shield block up

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 8:46 PM

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opaque bobcat Is there any way to see how often I've messed it up though? Aside from obvious s...

My main pain is that if mob charges to you, and you charge to it. You get a chance you get non-blockable damage. Due to sync stuff.

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No idea about addon

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 8:52 PM

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mighty valley You'd need a log to check how often you're not blocking hits while having shield...

i'll look at it thanks

echo egret Apr 10, 2025, 8:53 PM

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opaque bobcat Is there any addon that counts the times I've been hit in the back in a dungeon,...

There used to be a BAM weakaura somewhere

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 8:56 PM

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echo egret There used to be a BAM weakaura somewhere

will look, thanks

tribal wharf Apr 10, 2025, 9:01 PM

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that was the yogi video special

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hit in back> bam> dead,

jagged gust Apr 10, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Sometimes it's the end of a pack and I don't fee like wasting rage on SB, so I'll let my healer cover me and press more revenges

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BAM BAM BAM

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:15 PM

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alright

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its that time of the day again, time for priory #36

neon elk Apr 10, 2025, 9:17 PM

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Damn man stay strong

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:22 PM

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lusty grotto alright

what levels ya doing?

mortal cypress Apr 10, 2025, 9:29 PM

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opaque bobcat what levels ya doing?

think he does like +2

alpine ravine Apr 10, 2025, 9:31 PM

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what weapon enchant we want for keys

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:31 PM

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those are actually the hardest keys..

desert pine Apr 10, 2025, 9:39 PM

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does a weak aura exist for K.U.J.O. for telling you if you are safe from his explosion thing. For the purpose of standing next to the box while still being able to hit him

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I seem to remember there being one back in shadowlands but I can't find it

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:42 PM

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desert pine does a weak aura exist for K.U.J.O. for telling you if you are safe from his exp...

yes

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1 sec

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i got 2 for you

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this season pack has it

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https://wago.io/h80DsCJ9j

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causese's one also has it

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and...

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Wouldn't it would still require maneuvering him every so slightly so that his hitbox was close enough to melee, but also still around the corner enough to technically not be in los?

desert pine Apr 10, 2025, 9:43 PM

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opaque bobcat Wouldn't it would still require maneuvering him every so slightly so that his hi...

yes. but weak aura can confirm if you positioned correctly or not so you dont just end up dying lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:44 PM

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https://wago.io/twwdungeons

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https://wago.io/d9PjjIddK

desert pine Apr 10, 2025, 9:44 PM

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lusty grotto https://wago.io/twwdungeons

perfect! thank you so much!

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:44 PM

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that last one is only for it

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the rest are M+ packs

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Well the game tells you if you are safe already is my point

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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yes its a buff

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or debuff

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but WAs are easier to look at

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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It's the maneuver that is tricky i've found, then again i haven't used the addon, idk maybe it's easier

desert pine Apr 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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oh is it an actual buff or debuff or a hidden one?

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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lusty grotto but WAs are easier to look at

i see

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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uhh no

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its an actual buff/debuff

desert pine Apr 10, 2025, 9:46 PM

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ahhh i never noticed that lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:46 PM

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opaque bobcat Wouldn't it would still require maneuvering him every so slightly so that his hi...

it still requires it, the WAs dont do it for you

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:46 PM

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yes that's what i was trying to say

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:46 PM

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they arent black magic, they are just looking for the debuff

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right, we know this

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:47 PM

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opaque bobcat what levels ya doing?

10/11/12

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:48 PM

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it's the maneuver that's tricky, ya

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:48 PM

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might as well fill my vault slots

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:48 PM

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lusty grotto might as well fill my vault slots

yuuup

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:48 PM

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anyway no dice with #36

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and that was a paladin/monk/dk group with me

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 9:48 PM

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for tome i'm guessing?

heady nimbus Apr 10, 2025, 9:52 PM

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hold on a second

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were u trying to tell me I can spell reflect electropunch or whatever from momma, nimchip?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:53 PM

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no

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you can use its DR sure

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but its spell blockable

heady nimbus Apr 10, 2025, 9:53 PM

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got it

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:53 PM

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the initial hit is

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the dot isnt spell blockable

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but you can use SR there to mitigate and alternate walls etc

heady nimbus Apr 10, 2025, 9:55 PM

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Nice, okay, thanks a lot.

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:55 PM

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heady nimbus Nice, okay, thanks a lot.

read the sheet

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thats pinned, its always there and updated

heady nimbus Apr 10, 2025, 9:56 PM

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I started reading it right after I asked, and felt bad

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:57 PM

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@lusty grotto honest advice, need to craft 1 piece

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neck belt or boots

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i have wrists cloak and shield

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i have champ cinder neck w speed

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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neck is fine, weapon is probably best if you dont have myth

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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i have myth

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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i did neck so

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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with leech

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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you should too

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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opaque bobcat it's the maneuver that's tricky, ya

I’m assuming you’re talking about kujo, it’s pretty easy tbh

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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belt and boots are the bis

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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boots easy to get from vexie

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:58 PM

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i dont tank raid

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:59 PM

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cloak easy to get from vexie

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:59 PM

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they make me lock

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lol

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ill go neck then - crit haste right

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 9:59 PM

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wait no, vexei drops bracers not boots my bad

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 9:59 PM

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i shouldnt try the mastery

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:00 PM

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yeah haste crit is good

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 10:00 PM

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im at 27 mastery

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so i fig if i lose that shit i may need to balance but i guess w.e

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ill get the neck hast crit and fuck off

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with my new ilv

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:00 PM

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dont avoid mastery

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but tier should have the amount we need anyway

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 10:01 PM

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opaque bobcat Wouldn't it would still require maneuvering him every so slightly so that his hi...

You don’t even need to be around the corner

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 10:01 PM

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4 PC but i dont have good helm

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:01 PM

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chilly brook I’m assuming you’re talking about kujo, it’s pretty easy tbh

well someone else was asking the question, I was just pointing out that it's slightly tricky. I often found him to be close enough to auto but not use abilities, that or I took 1 flame wave to the face

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 10:01 PM

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haste vers with emph on haste

round cliff Apr 10, 2025, 10:01 PM

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supposed to be mythic prog night but infrastructure company fucked my internet

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aaaaaa

chilly brook Apr 10, 2025, 10:02 PM

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Like legit if you line him up with the long side of the box, you just use the S key until his head is about in the middle

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You often end up getting flagged as being “LoS” while on the same side as him if you just keep backing up from there

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Took me about 2 dungeons to get a feel for it

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:03 PM

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Ah. Gg, ive done over 35 mythic workshops and im still trash at it 🤣

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:03 PM

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just put the circle reticule right smack in the middle of the corner

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thats it

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it can't be anymore simpler than that

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thats what ive done since bfa

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never fails

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:07 PM

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lusty grotto it can't be anymore simpler than that

This, hitbox in mid of box corner

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:08 PM

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like the edge of it? Like this [ ] (_)

mortal edge Apr 10, 2025, 10:09 PM

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okay

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i made th eneck

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at 22% mastery now

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but 667 big boy

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35% haste and 30 % crit

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:09 PM

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Everybody is minmaxing Kujo DPS and the healer dies from gauntlet flames clueless

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:10 PM

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opaque bobcat like the edge of it? Like this [ ] (_)

let me whip out the paint.exe skills

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:11 PM

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slender bison Everybody is minmaxing Kujo DPS and the healer dies from gauntlet flames <:cluel...

🤣 a healer in a 12 told me I can't pull the 1 dog next to Kujo with Kujo because the dot does too much. This was after he just successfully healed through 6 dogs on 4 non-tanks lol

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:11 PM

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fuck thats not in the center

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:11 PM

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lusty grotto

🫡

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:12 PM

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opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:12 PM

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ahh, so his hitbox is his d***

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:12 PM

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yes the circle target reticule on the ground

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you can say dick, this aint pre-school

opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:12 PM

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Because ive tried the top one and i still got hit

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:13 PM

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i mean in practice it might not be in the middle, so you might need to go around

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usually whatever corner he's closest to

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is the safe one

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hug the box, look at the WA or buff/debuff

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stay there and go ham

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:14 PM

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opaque bobcat Apr 10, 2025, 10:14 PM

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how'd you know my mechagnome mog...

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:16 PM

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fyi for any lurkers my circle refers to this ground reticule

mortal cypress Apr 10, 2025, 10:17 PM

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lusty grotto fyi for any lurkers my circle refers to this ground reticule

https://tenor.com/view/find-urvish-gajjar-aapnu-cinema-you-tuber-gujarati-gif-18397137

Tenor

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:18 PM

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mortal cypress https://tenor.com/view/find-urvish-gajjar-aapnu-cinema-you-tuber-gujarati-gif-18...

you could have just told me you wanted feet pics

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:18 PM

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I miss you and see you soon

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 10:19 PM

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yeah a much worse version without any snaps

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🫡

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:22 PM

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Why we talking about shrine of the storm?

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:23 PM

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small steeple Why we talking about shrine of the storm?

Le Void comes back in S3

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:24 PM

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And why shrine of the storms? I get it has a void section at the end but there are a few legion dungeons that are like, all void right?

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:24 PM

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Triumvirate and that's it?

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:24 PM

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Idk legion was before my time

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Cathedral of Night is demons

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Mana Tombs

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Trimvuriste is the one with Alleria killing a void naru or something right?

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Yea, horrible trash. But it never went in a M+ rotation to get some tweaks

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:26 PM

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Oh was it not in legion m+ pool? I remember in BFA all dungeons were in the pull, even ones added after launch(mechagon)

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Tal vesh market or whatever from SL is somewhat related to the void, if the theories that there is some sort of strong relationship between the Brokers and Etherals is true

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:28 PM

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Damn. Cant remember. It was added in last Argus patch, when everybody was giga-geared but the mobs were so overtuned that we wanted back to Dark Thicket to listen to Milfurion getting roasted

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:28 PM

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Lmao

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If it was added late in last major patch it probably wasn’t? Or was it added with Argus patch itself?

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:29 PM

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Added in patch 7.3.0 "Shadows of Argus"

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So yea, together with the last raid

slender bison Apr 10, 2025, 10:34 PM

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small steeple Tal vesh market or whatever from SL is somewhat related to the void, if the theo...

Damn ☠️ 💡

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Imagine a dungeon pool full of void and shadow bolts but you're a prot warr

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We need an unsub emoji

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:45 PM

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oh god underrot, thats all old god corruption=void

torn gulch Apr 10, 2025, 10:46 PM

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i'd love to have seat but unchanged

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so i can see people lose their minds

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over it

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 10:48 PM

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Underrot’s already done a comeback I guess

torn gulch Apr 10, 2025, 10:48 PM

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yes it did

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df season 1

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or season 2

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 10:49 PM

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oh did it? i only played df s1 so im ust have nmissed it

strong forum Apr 10, 2025, 10:49 PM

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was s2

torn gulch Apr 10, 2025, 10:49 PM

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the exodia season

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the birth of an abomination the hopefully never moves anymore

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imagine not launching a mail tank with dragon form and support kit a la prot pala and launching aug evoker than destroyed m+ for 4 seasons

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 11:02 PM

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im gonna get to priory #40 tonight, so help me god

frail ibex Apr 10, 2025, 11:02 PM

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lusty grotto im gonna get to priory #40 tonight, so help me god

For tome?

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 11:04 PM

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yes

frail ibex Apr 10, 2025, 11:04 PM

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Just get it in your vault silly

waxen frigate Apr 10, 2025, 11:04 PM

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small steeple Tal vesh market or whatever from SL is somewhat related to the void, if the theo...

It’s also very good and fun

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So I hope we see them, especially gambit

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 11:05 PM

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not gonna happen in vault at least not until last week of the season

torn gulch Apr 10, 2025, 11:05 PM

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gambit will be a very good dungeon if we get it

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the first one is decent as well

warm plinth Apr 10, 2025, 11:07 PM

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Taz is overrated imo

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Not a bad dungeon but has an undeserved reputation in my onion

toxic pewter Apr 10, 2025, 11:33 PM

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I kinda wish there was a mega dungeon in the war within. I always enjoy mega dungeon myself

warm plinth Apr 10, 2025, 11:35 PM

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Yeah kinda surprised they didn't have one. I feel like all of them have had at least a decent reception.

pallid quiver Apr 10, 2025, 11:36 PM

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They said that they didn't want their releases to become predictable or formulaic or something when they mentioned Floodgate wasn't going to be a mega dungeon

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That's kinda fine, I guess, since I do like Floodgate at least

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 11:48 PM

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3 more priories for number 40

wicked pollen Apr 10, 2025, 11:52 PM

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lusty grotto 3 more priories for number 40

i did 20 motherlodes in 1 week for the ring

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 11:56 PM

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what are your thoughts on running sudden death over show of force in low aoe dungeons like top?

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 11:56 PM

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warm plinth Not a bad dungeon but has an undeserved reputation in my onion

I don’t really care what you’ve got going on in your onion

tacit smelt Apr 10, 2025, 11:57 PM

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How do you guys rotate through your CDs for first boss priory

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 11:57 PM

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wall first

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stoneform 2nd

tacit smelt Apr 10, 2025, 11:58 PM

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Hehe stoneform

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I'm a panda

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 11:58 PM

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small steeple what are your thoughts on running sudden death over show of force in low aoe dun...

I think since you still spend the bulk of your time in aoe sof is probably still better for time

small steeple Apr 10, 2025, 11:58 PM

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gonna remember, 5 boss dungeon though, most of it is in 1-3 targets or 1

mighty valley Apr 10, 2025, 11:58 PM

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But idk, the higher you go, the more I want to spend less time on gorechop

lusty grotto Apr 10, 2025, 11:59 PM

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wall avatar wall, and just cycle between the two

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with avatar you'll likely have demo so no need for long wall

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and never target emberlanz so your punish stacks are always on Suley

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at some point you'll have cd gaps, which you can ask for externals

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depending on key level

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:02 AM

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please dont listen to nimchip hes not real hes a skinwalker hardstuck 1400 io score struggles on +5s he tab targets rend

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i have a screenshot

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:02 AM

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true and real

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:02 AM

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tomrus??

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:03 AM

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i was about to go into microsfot paint and make a shitty meme picture but im a fat lazy pig

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:03 AM

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i believe in you

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:03 AM

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alright thats all i needed on it

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:03 AM

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internet is still down

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rip mythic prog

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:04 AM

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deadge

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:04 AM

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i was confident in 2/8m tonight too

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😔

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:04 AM

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what about tethering?

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:04 AM

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dawg i barely get cell reception at my house

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:04 AM

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even LTE is enough for WoW

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:04 AM

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it ain't play-wow-ablw

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:05 AM

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oh damn

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:05 AM

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for some reason my whole neighborhood is a dead zone

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it's 5g it's just shitty

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:05 AM

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that sucks

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:07 AM

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behold the truth

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sorry i have the creative capabilities of a potato

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 12:08 AM

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hardstuck on last boss nomeregan..

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:09 AM

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same tbh

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transmog farming is hard

strong forum Apr 11, 2025, 12:09 AM

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BearSquintZoom

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:11 AM

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the real crime is playing dwarf tbh

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nim trying to act like hes not hot irl

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we all know him to be a chiseled bronze skinned 6'8 man

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but he chooses to place limitations on himself

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and plays the role of a 3'8 molerat with wrinkly skin, festering with unholy poxes and plagues

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all warriors are the hottest individuals to populate this earth

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https://tenor.com/view/jake-bicep-flex-stu-bodybuilder-gif-16428728

Tenor

jagged gust Apr 11, 2025, 12:22 AM

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zealous goblet all warriors are the hottest individuals to populate this earth

Bro every time I invite a warrior to disc voice, they're some handsome bearded ginger with 20" biceps

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Literally every time

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:23 AM

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LMAO

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:24 AM

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zealous goblet

rofl

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that guy is balding yikes

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im sorry

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hair line back in africa

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now i gotta work out harder sadge

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:32 AM

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zealous goblet the real crime is playing dwarf tbh

Dwarf is peak male physique

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With kultiran as an alternative

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:33 AM

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hm

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id say kultiran is S+

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but dwarf aint far behind for sure

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:41 AM

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graceful kite Dwarf is peak male physique

wrong..

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the brainwashing

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you people have been compromised

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:42 AM

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Nah you are

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Other races are strict dieting torturing themselves to get muscle definition thats unhealthy

jagged gust Apr 11, 2025, 12:43 AM

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lusty grotto id say kultiran is S+

I'd like to see you say that to our faces

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:43 AM

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fat people isnt a race

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:44 AM

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In wow it is tho

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Pandaren

jagged gust Apr 11, 2025, 12:44 AM

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that's hairy fat people

zealous goblet Apr 11, 2025, 12:44 AM

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graceful kite Pandaren

you will NOT speak that word in this discord

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one more utterance and i will be filling out a moderator complaint

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!!!!

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 12:45 AM

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jagged gust I'd like to see you say that to our faces

LOL

heavy sparrow Apr 11, 2025, 12:45 AM

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Anyone noticed their DPS being bottlenecked?

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:46 AM

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jagged gust I'd like to see you say that to our faces

Kultiran would bodyslam both tho

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:46 AM

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heavy sparrow Anyone noticed their DPS being bottlenecked?

As in

heavy sparrow Apr 11, 2025, 12:46 AM

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Just did a 0 cinderbrew meadery and pulled like 2-3m instead of like 6-7

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Full on half room

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:47 AM

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Press buttons betterprob

jagged gust Apr 11, 2025, 12:47 AM

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well it's a zero, so your dots prolly ticked like once before the mobs died

heavy sparrow Apr 11, 2025, 12:47 AM

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More DPS you sim the more scale down you get in game

graceful kite Apr 11, 2025, 12:47 AM

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And take damage

heavy sparrow Apr 11, 2025, 12:48 AM

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jagged gust well it's a zero, so your dots prolly ticked like once before the mobs died

Maybe

alpine ravine Apr 11, 2025, 12:48 AM

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Its a 0 the mobs die in like 1 global

oak ivy Apr 11, 2025, 12:56 AM

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how much does M Sprock hurt

oak ivy Apr 11, 2025, 1:44 AM

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oh critcake

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 1:52 AM

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oak ivy how much does M Sprock hurt

use spell block

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ez tank buster

oak ivy Apr 11, 2025, 2:00 AM

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meanwhile my brew taking it natty at 50% hp and being fine

warm plinth Apr 11, 2025, 2:02 AM

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mighty valley I don’t really care what you’ve got going on in your onion

It has many layers

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 2:05 AM

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oak ivy meanwhile my brew taking it natty at 50% hp and being fine

what are you talking about we're one of the best tanks to handle sprocket

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or so thats been the talk here

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small steeple Apr 11, 2025, 2:08 AM

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oak ivy meanwhile my brew taking it natty at 50% hp and being fine

almost like brew has always been the best at smooth damage intake. they take a shit ton of damage, but its smoooooth as butter

warm plinth Apr 11, 2025, 2:08 AM

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lusty grotto what are you talking about we're one of the best tanks to handle sprocket

If you want a tome, dead by daylight has one and everyone can access it

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And it's on sale

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 2:09 AM

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seramore

small steeple Apr 11, 2025, 2:11 AM

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just got a hero bomb suit. I have a myth Pacemaker, and hero Tome. Should I run bombsuit in m+ over tome?

mighty valley Apr 11, 2025, 2:14 AM

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it's one of those things where you just gotta judge if you need the extra defensive button

lusty grotto Apr 11, 2025, 2:58 AM

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so this next run will be my 40th, but technically it will be #39 with hero tier loot

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so surely it will drop in the next 2

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clueless

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 3:05 AM

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27% wipe on cauldron

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tragic

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had 4 core raiders missing tho so w/e

narrow jay Apr 11, 2025, 3:18 AM

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We had back to back 0.1% wipes on cauldron lol should be a kill this week for sure 😅

opaque bobcat Apr 11, 2025, 3:24 AM

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lusty grotto so this next run will be my 40th, but technically it will be #39 with hero tier ...

games broke lol, i literally saw 2 in the last 2 runs i did today wtf. Hope ya get it soon bruv lol

solid sun Apr 11, 2025, 3:36 AM

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Do y’all wanna invade my Tuesday raid and carry us to aotc

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Sounds like fun right

warm plinth Apr 11, 2025, 3:38 AM

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What if, hear me out

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What if I invade your Tuesday raid and you carry me to aotc

solid sun Apr 11, 2025, 3:39 AM

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Hmmmm

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Okay wait a second, new idea

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What if you guys all invade my Tuesday raid and carry both of us to aotc

surreal thunder Apr 11, 2025, 3:43 AM

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any recommendations to swap out for ravager for m+?

solid sun Apr 11, 2025, 3:45 AM

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Bsv

surreal thunder Apr 11, 2025, 3:46 AM

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Cant do bsv gotta have 13 points spent

stoic pilot Apr 11, 2025, 3:46 AM

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taking out BSV allows you to get ravager, if you don't want to do that then you drop battering ram

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but not sure how much of a loss it is with this seasons tier set compared to how it was s1

surreal thunder Apr 11, 2025, 3:47 AM

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i want ravager for the initial aggro on a pull when gathering, like on floogate when ur pulling 4 different packs

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but i took a point out of bsv and it's not letting me get ravager lol

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stoic pilot Apr 11, 2025, 3:48 AM

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your cheat death 🙂

solid sun Apr 11, 2025, 3:48 AM

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Bsv is the bottom most talent in the center

surreal thunder Apr 11, 2025, 3:49 AM

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OH i thought it was best served cold

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LOL

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soryr im dumb

stoic pilot Apr 11, 2025, 3:49 AM

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no worries, acronyms are a little goofy sometimes

heavy sparrow Apr 11, 2025, 4:12 AM

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heavy sparrow Just did a 0 cinderbrew meadery and pulled like 2-3m instead of like 6-7

So I simmed at 20 seconds which is reasonable, but 3m damage for 15 mobs?

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Where highest DPS did 7m, and 2nd highest (me) did like 2-3m?

hidden rock Apr 11, 2025, 4:17 AM

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You're trying to increase your dps on mobs that die in like 1-2 globals? For what reason?

heavy sparrow Apr 11, 2025, 4:26 AM

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Mythic 0 lasts like 40 seconds though

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:29 AM

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solid sun What if you guys all invade my Tuesday raid and carry both of us to aotc

I can but only if you use metric and don’t say soccer

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 4:29 AM

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what if i say soccer and also main cristiano ronaldo in cotw

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does that make up for it or make it worse

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:30 AM

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Cotw is a Zelda game no ?

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 4:31 AM

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no its a fatal fury game

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:31 AM

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It has Ronaldo playable ? Fatal fury seems like a fighting game just by the name

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 4:31 AM

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yea its a fighting game

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coming out soon-ish

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they added fucking cristiano ronaldo as a fighter 😭

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and salvatore ganacci too

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ABEy2ZFbU&pp=ygUWY290dyBjcmlzdGlhbm8gcm9uYWxkbw%3D%3D this shit is so silly

YouTube

SNK OFFICIAL

FATAL FURY: CotW ｜CRISTIANO RONALDO

Legendary footballer Cristiano Ronaldo descends on South Town in FATAL FURY: City of the Wolves!

Official Site
https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/fatalfury-cotw/
X
https://x.com/FATALFURY_PR
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/fatalfury_pr/

▶ Play video

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:34 AM

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They missed something to not make him talk Portuguese with Ronaldo-ish voice

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 4:34 AM

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ronaldo not being voiced by ronaldo is the funniest shit they couldve done

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ngl

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:35 AM

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Yeah it looks like some copy-paste with 1 slight change to escape IP regulation idk what is English word for it

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So it is funny indeed

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 4:36 AM

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he kinda animates like ass

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compared to everyone else

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but that makes it funnier somehow

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:45 AM

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big mistake incoming

round cliff Apr 11, 2025, 4:50 AM

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sharp gale big mistake incoming

dont do it

sharp gale Apr 11, 2025, 4:52 AM

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round cliff dont do it

i think the game doesn't want to let me play, Premier is the real ranked right ? it's been so long

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fuck mirage btw

final linden Apr 11, 2025, 5:01 AM

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guys should we craft with Dawnthread Lining now

neon elk Apr 11, 2025, 5:05 AM

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Wdym now ?

slender bison Apr 11, 2025, 5:47 AM

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lusty grotto so this next run will be my 40th, but technically it will be #39 with hero tier ...

I did the same farming simulator for crit/haste chestpiece in Brewery. Then it dropped on a Tuesday after 20 runs and got Myth tier chest in vault the next day. This is the life

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Screenshot_2025-04-11-08-48-34-622_org.mozilla.firefox2.jpg

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And another 20 something ToP runs for shield

final linden Apr 11, 2025, 5:54 AM

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neon elk Wdym now ?

well we didnt have enough sparks at the start

chilly brook Apr 11, 2025, 6:00 AM

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surreal thunder any recommendations to swap out for ravager for m+?

BSV my brother

icy flax Apr 11, 2025, 6:38 AM

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slender bison

not crafting a shield?

slender bison Apr 11, 2025, 6:40 AM

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icy flax not crafting a shield?

Honestly, no. I'm poor and prefer to dump gilded into upgrades. Plus dopamine goes brrr when item drops

waxen quarry Apr 11, 2025, 7:22 AM

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round cliff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ABEy2ZFbU&pp=ygUWY290dyBjcmlzdGlhbm8gcm9uYWxkb...

hoooly

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https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-cristiano-ronaldo-calm-down-keep-calm-football-gif-17344640

Tenor

charred ivy Apr 11, 2025, 8:19 AM

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What is it in motherload third bossm that hurt so much? I feel like this boss hits me like a truck compared. But i see no dot or cast?

supple plinth Apr 11, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Hi, I would like to ask if you guys know of some really big spell reflects in current M+? Like that big tank buster in Motherlode that those peacekeeping robots do

jagged pier Apr 11, 2025, 8:20 AM

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kekW

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they got rid of those

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warrior isnt allow fun

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but theres a speadsheet in the pins

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of everything u can sr, deflect and block

supple plinth Apr 11, 2025, 8:23 AM

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charred ivy What is it in motherload third bossm that hurt so much? I feel like this boss hi...

You are not the only one, all tanks suffer there as far as I know, boss just has large auto attack damage, trick is that most of the time she is using flamethrower (not hitting you) so you can use that time to stock rage and then shield yourself up as much as you can she she is hitting you

charred ivy Apr 11, 2025, 8:23 AM

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Yeah ok 🙂 i did this but thought maybe i miss something ^^

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First time i engaged boss took huge Chung damage. Was wondering wtf happened. Nth else in whole dungeon hurt. Wasnt prepared haha