Aug was the biggest.
#protection
toxic pewter
The effects of those two decisions have had impacts and reverberating effects we still have not even fully felt or experienced yet. Which is not to say they’ve already had glaring effects in regards to class balance so far with the disgrace of aug situation and paladins becoming even stronger utility wise than they already were (top utility class as it was)
slender bison
The effects of those two decisions have had impacts and reverberating effects we...
"Declined" in 10+ pug I guess
mighty valley
The effects of those two decisions have had impacts and reverberating effects we...
it’s been over two years, I think we’ve felt the effects bud
oh damn the huge edit
toxic pewter
The effects of those changes live on currently
And will continue to plague the situation for a long while
Who knows how long it will haunt us
Probably forever
tulip oar
Thankfully Aug was taken out back of the shed.
toxic pewter
For now
mighty valley
i would posit that battle res is a vanishingly small portion of prot paladin’s reason for viability
toxic pewter
To say brez has not aided prot pala is also just a lie
Yeah see
You and I just disagree on fundamentals
slender bison
Honestly, as a prot warr I'll always pick a prot paladin for my alt char key over a warr if they're both same rating 🥺
jagged gust
I've invited a ret pal to a group over 30 other candidates because we all said "yeah whatever just get a brez"
toxic pewter
Giving a brez to a class that already had the most utility forever shifted the situation and blizzard cannot remedy it
tulip oar
I'd rather a druid, but I like the group vers buff
jagged gust
The druid is a boomie pressing starfall 50 times
heavy sparrow
As a warrior tank I prefer monk healers, they're right there with me every step of the way
jagged gust
Can't squeeze a brez in between sadly
toxic pewter
Meanwhile a new class that also had an astonishingly high amount for utility (evoker) lust on top of it is indefensible
Those two decisions.. we will be haunted forever
And the game suffers on
Honestly monk should of gotten brez and warrior lust
mighty valley
why would monk getting bres be better than paladin getting it
tulip oar
No one will deny that it's dumb that every other class/spec seems to have more utility and dps than Warrior. Those two choices you mentioned are still not the two biggest mistakes by Blizzard thought. At least in my opinion.
I agree, Monk could get brez thematically, and Warrior is obvious lust choice.
toxic pewter
Paladins have the most utility of any class. When they got brez that was one of the largest spits in the face of the honest players within the community I’ve seen in my wow career
Anyone honest with themselves that thinks that was a good decision
I cannot respect them
slender bison
From these warriors, 3 are Thanes and 47 are Colossus. So guess where prot warr is going now after the nerf
toxic pewter
Going to be in the same spot we always are lol. Like 4th-5th most played tank
Not much will change
slender bison
Millennials like prot wars, genZ plays VDHs 
onyx pike
true chadis
bleak breach
From these warriors, 3 are Thanes and 47 are Colossus. So guess where prot warr ...
We will stay #4
I’m fine with the damage nerf, but they just should’ve gave something back in return.
Overall we’re decent, we just will still be decent but do less damage now.
Probably a little lighter on the aoe nerf would’ve been nice, I’ll run some sims once it’s live and see where to go build wise from there.
We will still be top dps ST tank, just below BDK on aoe by the look of things.
void oak
we still play colossus also with the nerf of we go thane?
neat vector
Colossus will be fine
south goblet
but now theres a less of a gap betweeen than and col. That extra beffyness is gunna look nicer the high you climb key wise
bleak breach
Quick sim will find out
void oak
Does anyone by chance have the image with the presence of the tanks in the m+
?
during all the old season
bleak breach
Off the top of my head MT might overtake colossus for pure ST/raid
Will be tough for MT to be colossus in aoe though
hard cliff
do we know yet if the changes make us want to go mountain thane?
jagged gust
If you wanna do less damage but be tankier
colossus dps still pulls ahead in aoe so if you're still surviving there's no need to swap
sick sentinel
Good morning. Im New to tanking this season. I did a darkflame cleft 7. I did second most damage overall with 1.4 Billion. Was my dds bad or im just good and my warrior make good damage ? What is your Overall damge in low keys
pallid quiver
Good morning. Im New to tanking this season. I did a darkflame cleft 7. I did se...
if you did 1.4 billion dps, you're cracked and probable engaging with a little bit of the cheat engine
If you're talking straight damage dealt, it doesn't tell too much of the story, since there's technically only so much damage to go out
sick sentinel
What you mean with cheat engine ?
bleak breach
do we know yet if the changes make us want to go mountain thane?
just did a heap of sims, collosus will still win in all circumstances.
i think you're thinking 1.4mil
hard cliff
good to know, sortry i was in a key haha
sick sentinel
No billion
hard cliff
i like both so was just curious
sick sentinel
Overall et the end of dungeon
bleak breach
ahhh, dps is more relative.
pallid quiver
i think you're thinking 1.4mil
he's talking straight damage dealt, not dps
sick sentinel
Yeah
bleak breach
total damage doesn't mean too much
sick sentinel
But i was mugh higher than the pala and Firemage
Only unholy make more
And they got way better gear
pallid quiver
you're not going to get a real answer until you give a DPS value and a dungeon
sick sentinel
I will look next time
pallid quiver
There is only so much damage to go out, and you could have done it one singular mob at a time; we can't tell
sick sentinel
On boss Fights i did 2,4 million dps
pallid quiver
Your DPS would be terrible if you did that, but you'd do the same damage overall
sick sentinel
Ah okay i under stand
But its cool as tank to make more damage than most random dps in m+
And i didnt even try to switch stances cause im New and Afraid to Die
pallid quiver
I doubt the 2.4 mil DPS without adds, since prot wars in raid aren't even reliably breaking 2 mil without adds
and they have a full suite of raid buffs
livid granite
But its cool as tank to make more damage than most random dps in m+
this is incorrect ,else you are playing kids' key level at 7-9 , go higher keys 12+ and show me if you can outdps a real dps .
pallid quiver
Notche, stop being a dick
sick sentinel
I said +7
pallid quiver
at every waking moment
livid granite
I said +7
you think we are kindergarden simming at +7 , if you have a slight dignity you won't mention such a key here
pallid quiver
Notche, get over yourself. I don't know why you have the absolute psychological need to shit on people trying to improve themselves or be happy with their progress
livid granite
Notche, get over yourself. I don't know why you have the absolute psychological ...
not really i am empathic and i love people , but i don't like the prag mentality of ''hey look at me tank outdpsing a random dps at pug ''
pallid quiver
But like actually, piss off with that attitude. We don't need to be the average WoW player here; we can just be happy for people trying to enjoy themselves and to help people improve.
pallid quiver
not really i am empathic and i love people , but i don't like the prag mentality...
This is fucking cap
bleak breach
Notche, don’t make me compare logs
sick sentinel
Chill guys. Im just Proud ofmyself that i did a few +7 and 8 . Tanking is really hard to learn if u only Played elemental shaman and Mages before. Its a totally different play style
Dont argue becsuse of me
bleak breach
Ozzy, if you topped total damage it means you also beat them in dps, which is good and bad.
Really good for you, but bad for them as it means they got beat by the tank.
sick sentinel
Yeah this is what i wanted to know
livid granite
But like actually, piss off with that attitude. We don't need to be the average ...
ya Luerce i love you ya luerce but i don't get it when i want to show deep reality even if it's brutal i see you as a white knight trying to put me down into submissive position
sick sentinel
Csuse when i play shaman no tank beats me in dps before
bleak breach
Generally we use dps as it’s easier to examine
I.e if you’re 660 ilvl and you did 2mil and another 660 PWar did 2.5mil we can be like okay they did that differently
Total damage can be that you wiped a few times or that you pulled extra pats
livid granite
Notche, don’t make me compare logs
ya sokraxx you are beast playing with 20 ms latency near paris servers and i know you are good
bleak breach
ya sokraxx you are beast playing with 20 ms latency near paris servers and i kno...
Huh? I’m Tasmanian
wicked pollen
Notche, get over yourself. I don't know why you have the absolute psychological ...
ik why
livid granite
ik why
keep typing two words in each warriors' channel , go sell some fake hats ya gio
pallid quiver
Total damage can be that you wiped a few times or that you pulled extra pats
On top of this, like I mentioned, your overall damage is just flat limited by the HP of mobs; If a boss has 100 HP, the total damage of your group is only ever going to be 100 combined
wicked pollen
mad?
pallid quiver
It doesn't help anyone see if you're optimizing your damage, how efficiently you're doing damage, or anything like that, hence DPS is a more useful metric for WoW's setup, particularly since M+ is timed
So the faster you do that damage, the better
sick sentinel
I just wsnt to Tell you. Never before i got so much fun to play another class than shaman. Warrior is really king
bleak breach
It’s good fun, the more damage you do the easier you live.
livid granite
I just wsnt to Tell you. Never before i got so much fun to play another class th...
if you liked prot you will like arms , just keep away from fury it's for mashing kids with low latency pings
sick sentinel
Is arms better in m+ than fury ?
livid granite
Is arms better in m+ than fury ?
yeah check Critcake youtube videos ' he is the king in here and he has been playing arms all the way
pallid quiver
Is arms better in m+ than fury ?
Fury is target capped, so when larger pulls come in, it starts to fall behind
sick sentinel
I will thanks. I try to get a 2h but it Never Drops in m+
pallid quiver
Critcake generally prefers Fury, but there's a lot of dungeons that have real big pulls past Fury's target cap, so
bleak breach
Luerce you been playing much so far?
pallid quiver
Luerce you been playing much so far?
sorta, I just play when I feel like it
I've hit a few 10s, but haven't bothered to step into 11s yet
Been mostly playing with friends
bleak breach
Yeah, I’ve played a lot more than normal.
Haven’t really pushed yet, gonna start next week.
pallid quiver
Some are gear capped and have rough times in those 10s, some are skill capped by 10s, but I've just been chilling mostly
I've just generally been vibing, watching everyone explode around me
pretty fun overall
bleak breach
Times all 10s and a few 11s.
We got 8/8h and 1/8m this week plus I finally got 4pc.
So gonna have a crack at push.
pallid quiver
i haven't even stepped foot into H raid yet
I told myself I was gonna this week
then i just got lazy
livid granite
ya luerce what is your guild name
bleak breach
Got a few top 10overalls, think I’ve been knocked out of them now though.
pallid quiver
I've been guildless since MoP, boss
wicked pollen
i haven't even stepped foot into H raid yet
hi bring back s1 prot
pallid quiver
I can't be assed to play on a schedule
livid granite
so you only pug since mop ??
wicked pollen
I can't be assed to play on a schedule
why did they remove execute giving cm
bleak breach
why did they remove execute giving cm
Please
You’ll make me cry
Although we would be busted in ST if it still did as there’s a bit of a gap for us and other tanks on ST as is.
pallid quiver
so you only pug since mop ??
I sometimes play with friends, but yes
pallid quiver
why did they remove execute giving cm
blame arms
They wanted Arms to not press execute and press Mortal Strike instead
slender bison
Can't seem to find the info online. When is versatility applied? After the final damage subtracted after your mitigations? i.e. after Shield Wall?
oak ivy
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but.. since DR in this game is multiplicative, the order doesn't matter (?)
strong forum
Could sim the changes
oak ivy
5% was napkin math, 12% sim result?
supple meadow
need it now
pallid quiver
so initial numbers are normally napkin math before dedicated sims pop out
supple meadow
where my instant gratification
lofty glen
what is the big difference on colossos and thane tanking?
vale escarp
More revenge+a Spell that roots you or more IP and TC
errant leaf
Are we back to thane ?
lofty glen
okay then ill change my question. i am not interested in doing tonns of dmg. what is the best herotalent to survive more
vale escarp
We survive as thane and colossus
errant leaf
Thane is tankier
lofty glen
do we dropp ravager for bsv on higher keys?
charred ivy
Thane feels abit easier to play imo.
pallid quiver
Yeah, Thane's easier to play and also a non-determinate amount tankier, since it has higher rage gen. How much so is very difficult to tell, but if playing properly, you'll mitigate more damage. Colo is harder to play, but has a much higher damage ceiling in AOE
topaz leaf
help me out real quick, so prot gets nerfed by 5% and guardian gets a 4% buff, even though their raw sims are basically even?
charred ivy
Yeah as thane u can still spam ip abit etc. Dont have to care as much for mistake. As colossus i also had problem keep shield block up as long time. But i just into the fray as colossus so probably not enough haste yet.
karmic plinth
help me out real quick, so prot gets nerfed by 5% and guardian gets a 4% buff, e...
guardian had a moderate hit to their single target from the catweaving nerfs
ionic nimbus
help me out real quick, so prot gets nerfed by 5% and guardian gets a 4% buff, e...
Warrior got hyped via RWF and some crazy numbers from m+… this we got a nerf
If warrior is performing good at the beginning of a season, at least a small nerf is safe
Overall we should be happy that we did not get totally rect…
topaz leaf
yes, I remember DF season 1
but the raw sim dps is borked anyway, isn't it? because of execute?
or rather unrealistic
bleak breach
or rather unrealistic
No
Sims are just playing optimally, so if you keep your defensives up and do your rotation correctly you will be very close to your sim numbers
lofty warren
if you learn level 1 alchemy do your flasks last longer?
jagged girder
if you learn level 1 alchemy do your flasks last longer?
Nope, you need lvl 25 to unlock specializations
Flask specialization gives you 50% duration through 2 different "milestones"
Level it to 25, pick all alchemy treasures (wowhead the list), put points on correct specialization
Can be done in around 15 minutes
plain iron
I love how to post about the nerf first said it should be a 2% ST and a 5% AOE for the a week then 24h before the change, it's now 5% ST and 12% AOE
neon elk
Its longer than 24h since update and the 2/5% was a wild guess few mins after after nerf was announced without any real math done
pallid quiver
I love how to post about the nerf first said it should be a 2% ST and a 5% AOE ...
because nome hadn't gotten around to actually simming it; the 5% was pure napkin math
dusky canopy
Yeah archi even specified “napkin math” in the update
nimble root
Does tome of lights devotion just not sim well or is it not very good?
nimble root
I'd been using it and it felt really strong, I just wasn't sure if all the other trinket buffs made them pass it up or something. Didn't figure so.
I'm tome/kezan in raid and tome/seaforium in keys
clear kestrel
Any “eureka” moments you had for Stix mythic as prot? I’m a DPS main but not a terrible tank and I’m covering mythic as our main guy is off for a couple weeks. Or is it pretty much heroic for us?
dusky canopy
Just learn the ball and chill pretty much afaik
Our team is BDK/Prot pala and the pala does all the balls on “right”
minor forge
Suppossed I get invited, 10s are more than doable at 641 with 2/2 tier and gallywix tank trinket
clear kestrel
Just learn the ball and chill pretty much afaik
Yeah I hoped that’d be the case lol
neon elk
Suppossed I get invited, 10s are more than doable at 641 with 2/2 tier and gally...
If thats a question then yes
waxen frigate
Yeah I hoped that’d be the case lol
I listened to Rollin by Limp Bizkit on repeat for the entirety of prog
past cobalt
Does tier set work with the immovable object talent on prot?
neon elk
No
brave stirrup
Toxic healer friend rant. We are doing a 10 Rookery, he stands in the tank breath when the boss is 10 percent health. He dies, we wipe. He logs off immediately. Comes back on bnet . Tells me his sub ran out. Says good luck, logs off bnet. Logs back in bnet, logs off bnet. Gone.
I don’t say anything because I’m just stunned at the behavior. Woke up this morning, still stunned
slender bison
Toxic healer friend rant. We are doing a 10 Rookery, he stands in the tank breat...
Bnet never logs you out, even if sub runs out
Gives you a grace period
Until you log out yourself
brave stirrup
Yup. I knew this as it was happening. I’m just…so shocked at the weak mindedness. Like ok you fucked up. Whatever man who cares. Next key.
The pugs were flaming him hard so I guess that contributed
valid spade
As prot mains are we supposed to be topless 😂
valid spade
Get your chest out jakey boy
chrome falcon
Any “eureka” moments you had for Stix mythic as prot? I’m a DPS main but not a t...
you barely even play the class
most of your time is rolling
and there's nothing class specific about that
clear kestrel
That’s sad
chrome falcon
have fun being better at the mechanic than the rest of the raid after 5 pulls then waiting for everyone else to catch up 🙂
clear kestrel
Can one tank do all rolls on mythic too?
chrome falcon
yes
you tank the boss basically the entire time you're not rolling
hold a shield wall for every demolish, you won't always be in melee range of the boss when he casts it
clear kestrel
I’ll probs just volunteer all the balls and let my main tank do boss and adds then
chrome falcon
take disrupting shout, if you pick up 2 scrapmasters then hit a bomb you can kick both of them with disrupting and they get into melee way faster
who's your co-tank?
clear kestrel
Vdh
clear kestrel
No he’s on holiday lmao
It’s who I’m covering for, awful timing
We have an unholy DK 🙂
chrome falcon
that's something at least
tell your dps to learn to taunt, we found it pretty useful
melee dps taunting in bombshells/scrapmasters that afk outside on ranged who cba running in
clear kestrel
That’s probs a good tip tbf I can pass that on, thanks
surreal lodge
i think mountain thane might be legit decent after the patch
oak ivy
(((This is entirely anecdotal and your mileage may vary.))) For me, in 1T 5min patchwerk, Thane sims at about 1.5M and Colossus is at 1.7M
surreal lodge
wut bout aoem+?
sharp mesa
How bad is this nerf gonna be my fellow warriors?
lusty grotto
pins
lusty grotto
i dont think the changes are live in sims
but if they are
highly doubt it, tried nightly and latest
but i could be wrong 🙂
oak ivy
Could sim the changes
I think it may be updated based on this, could be misinterpreting tho
charred ivy
If u play thane the nerfs wont matter too much right? Shield slam reduced dmg but some mountain thane shield slam damage up should compensate abit?
solid sun
Happy vault day for all of my fellow NA gamers
oak ivy
happy vault day I am hoping for the weapon from mythic rika rika reverb
solid sun
I'd like a myth track tier piece to replace one of my champion track tier pieces
oak ivy
i would also be very happy with the chest from Cinderbrew
big pref on the weapon though cuz that'd be a hard lock in until M Mugzee
oak ivy
uh
we killed myth rik
hense hoping for the weapon
currently my 2nd best simming, 1st being mugzee Myth
lusty grotto
yes\
oak ivy
Fair
lusty grotto
the difference between the 2 is so little
oak ivy
I'm hesitant to take it even if it does appear in my vault, we'd more than likely rekill on thursday and I am the sole 1h STR user in our raid
surreal lodge
its kinda wild that collosus can receive a 12 percent nerf to aoe and still be ahead of thane
oak ivy
I'd have to hold my grab til thursday night, cuz LC shenangans and there are 0 other people it could go to if he drops it natty
dark barn
Should i open the vault with tank spec (i crafted weapon and shield) to maybe see a tome?
unborn island
May all of your vaults be fruitful NA bros
oak ivy
May all of your vaults be fruitful NA bros
and yours as well, bro of unknown region
torpid wolf
🙏
surreal lodge
i usually still do prot vault
1 hand wep and shield still good and a lot of tank lootable trinkets are good
like u still have the floodgate trinkets. priory trinkets
sonic terrace
With the nerfs to colossal today will MT be better at dmg or just be evenish
lusty grotto
slightly better in st
no change otherwise
that's strict ST, if there's adds, colossus outpaces it
strong forum
Even in ST, aoe colossus still turbo blows thane out the park
lusty grotto
i see
crisp crown
suggestions, open vault as prot or arms tomorrow? 😄
i dont got tome trinket yet, but i also sometimes play arms and my 2H weapon is 658 champion track
crisp crown
aight aight ty
heavy sparrow
Let's hope we get that one item we need that apparently doesn't exist in the dungeon from farming
strong forum
That's why I don't farm them
dusky canopy
Learned that lesson in shadowlands
Farmed the dos shield trinket 38 runs and got it at higher ilvl in the very next vault
solid sun
I have hero track tome and the chest bomb trinket from floodgate. Whatever it’s called. Also have 675 weapon and shield
Am I a prot opener or an arms opener
dusky canopy
I think if it were me I would still open as Prot because I would want a myth tome or max ilvl myth shield
That would mean a wasted craft/crest in your case
If you do any sort of offspec at all fishing for a 2h with arms loot spec is probably best
round cliff
i just had the world's shortest dmv wait
i didn't even get to sit down and relax for a minute
after walking in the doors
still vault
holy shit, it's a 12% aoe nerf?
cerulean burrow
correct
still vault
that's a little over the top no? blood is doing uncapped aoe with blood beast and we here catching strays
cerulean burrow
in my biased opinion i would agree yes
in actuality i couldnt tell ya but what i can say is majority of top runned keys are vdh so idk prot op i guess
dusky canopy
BDK can do 3M overall with bloodbeast procs but we cant do 3M overall that’d be unfair
eternal kelp
To many tanks are playing so they want to reduce the number of them.
dusky canopy
Didn’t I read a mention in here that Prot warrior popularity was like 4th or 5th out of the six tanks??
agile elbow
neon elk
Only thing thats gona change is comunity perception
still vault
getting into keys is gonna be hard
oak ivy
good effing lord, I did not think they were that far apart
still vault
people either want meta tank or brez tank
oak ivy
Obligatory FOR MY CHARACTER WITH MY STATS AND GEAR Colossus is more than 30% more damage than thane
gyat
vast prairie
that will be played now, Colossus or Mountains?
oak ivy
that will be played now, Colossus or Mountains?
Thane damage is effectively unchanged. Colossus got like a 12% AOE nerf. Colossus is still more DPS. Thane is still more tanky/easy. Play what you want.
Both entirely valid choices
toxic pewter
community hates warriors
proven kite
Just asking - were there 12% nerfs to VDH in any capacity since its rank #1 by a long shot?
toxic pewter
they got some 5% parry nerf or something thats it
proven kite
How about a better question… last season prot Pally dominated with 85% representation in keys 13 and higher…..
Did they ever get hit with a 12% nerf?
lusty grotto
what capacity
were they top aoe dmg?
were they top st damage?
yes prot pally has been nerfed
surreal lodge
thane gets storm shield which is very useful. i wonder if the ease and tankiness benefits of thane warrior will make it better for high keys
depends on the dmg diff of collosus to thane
proven kite
Not last season . They dominated the whole season
lusty grotto
youre grasping at straws, blizzard only nerfs numbers
in what capacity would you nerf VDH?
still vault
depends on the dmg diff of collosus to thane
the damage is too big
lusty grotto
they arent top damage
lusty grotto
kinda wild
proven kite
Btw
surreal lodge
collosus is more than 12 percent dps ahead of mountain thane?
proven kite
Yes. We don’t need to be doing +30 keys
Throws the whole balance out if you have 1 outlier
Rather than buff 5 underperformers
lusty grotto
and you didnt think we were the outlier?
even though we're 4th
we were VERY CLEARLY an outlier
tank pop doesnt matter for balance, and shouldn't matter
lusty grotto
brother what
proven kite
Vdh and prot pally
lusty grotto
proven kite
S tier and A tier
lusty grotto
those are 12 to 17
look at the parses
you really REALLY didnt think we were an outlier?
the data is there
lusty grotto
i hope you dont go "but 17s are low keys"
proven kite
lusty grotto
lmao
proven kite
Def need to nerf the b tier
plush tendon
its not just M+
proven kite
Those are who we need to be concerned with
lusty grotto
link a tier list
in response to
my parsing data
???
holy
taken by warcraftlogs btw
lusty grotto
no, it doesnt
proven kite
Yes it does
plush tendon
tier list is literally just popularity
proven kite
You clearly don’t
lusty grotto
and shouldnt EVER BE VALID FOR BALANCE
plush tendon
^
oak ivy
collosus is more than 12 percent dps ahead of mountain thane?
I'm late to this but,, yes,, by far
lusty grotto
you keep droning on about the same thing
tank pop should not matter for balance, tier lists should not matter for balance
the numbers are there
oak ivy
Damage =/= Meta
limpid tide
HNMmmmmm why would prot warr get nerf 
proven kite
Prot warrior has to do more dmg than other tanks - we bring less utility - no?
Any time prot is meta - we do dmg
plush tendon
HNMmmmmm why would prot warr get nerf <:warriorbrain:1083190485637660734>
about to link that
proven kite
It’s always been like that
limpid tide
VDH does no dmg, casters just want chaos brand
lusty grotto
this guy is an idiot
proven kite
Sigil of chains
plush tendon
VDH has a Silence Sigil, a Fear Sigil, and a Grip Sigil
lusty grotto
have fun everyone
proven kite
All great things
oak ivy
this guy is an idiot
limpid tide
you don't need it as prot warr, play melee comps
plush tendon
you don't need it as prot warr, play melee comps
Prot War, WW, Ret, Elemental, Druid
dream comp
jagged pier
Prot warrior is only meta, if the other classes have no utility thats overly benefical, or it is seen that no other tank can live. Because ppl remeber SB exsists
Ill call it now
Start of next expansion early season 1
OMG PROT WARRIOR INCREDIBLE
then prot pala or something else can live everyone switches
Nothing to do with damage
limpid tide
blood dk will be meta, and it'll be stacked with frost and unholy DK just watch. ele shaman and disc priest just there to cheer DK on
plush tendon
blood dk will be meta, and it'll be stacked with frost and unholy DK just watch....
DK rework 11.1.5?
upbeat plover
Our utility is our high damage, thus utility removed.
small steeple
Start of next expansion early season 1
fools bets
heavy sparrow
Anyone speccing into fear instead of stormbolt as well
small steeple
instead of stormbolt?
heavy sparrow
Seems like more utility with the dungeons we have
lusty grotto
i would much rather they give us back something like gag order, if anything than "nerf by 12%" the meta tank like this guy suggests here #protection message, without giving any insight as to what specifically. Otherwise the nerf slinging continues, nerfing because you dont like the meta pick is fucking selfish and you should be ashamed of yourself if you think that way
heavy sparrow
It's an aoe interupt
chilly dock
Guys we still using colossus after this week update?
heavy sparrow
Yes, but it's okay because we will be speccing different in higher keys anywho so we will be taking a damage hit in higher keys on exchange for living
limpid tide
DK rework 11.1.5?
that's basically my guess. They are pushing DK power strong by simply not tuning san'layn yet. So either they leave m+ unbalanced until .5 patch or nerf it now
lusty grotto
no
plush tendon
that's basically my guess. They are pushing DK power strong by simply not tuning...
I feel bad for DPS DK, at least for raid
literally no reason to bring one outside of tuning
need grips -> play blood
valid spade
Do you all play multiples of the same type of character so you reroll to a fotm, or just continue as normal. I do think about it but it's exhausting and I'm happier just to make my dude as good as possible.
But I'm also in a stage of life I can't really spin up multiples as a just in case
heavy sparrow
Like taking BSV instead of ravager is respecing
cerulean tusk
i would much rather they give us back something like gag order, **if anything** ...
If warrior is close to be strong enough to be meta, even considered. You know we in an unbalanced state.
Why? Because all we bring is damage. If damage is worth more than the whole kit of others, then there is a huge issue.
As such, making sure warrior never is meta is good for the game.
cerulean tusk
And rally, don't forget rally
frozen berry
Rally is so huge it’s definitely worth the global it takes to use it
toxic pewter
prot warr utility actually underrated
heavy sparrow
If warrior is close to be strong enough to be meta, even considered. You know we...
I agree with funky kitty. We're one of the first classes of the game and it does make sense the DK and VDH would be top 3 because they're expansion classes
limpid tide
prot warr utility actually underrated
I think 2 point shockwave is very nice for overlaps, def underrated
heavy sparrow
Rally is so huge it’s definitely worth the global it takes to use it
Saves everyone in a pinch for healers too
cerulean tusk
More complexity should be rewarded with meta spot. Hero classes should naturally be better at the job.
heavy sparrow
Exactly
lusty grotto
Rally is so huge it’s definitely worth the global it takes to use it
rally needs fixing for 5 man content, i dont think anyone here thinks otherwise
toxic pewter
prot warr training wheels tank
lusty grotto
doesnt mean that their points are invalid
heavy sparrow
Warriors are like going to a restaurant and you're unsure what you want so you order the chicken
Cow tongue tacos are too advanced for me I'll order the chicken taco
toxic pewter
Ngl I read a lot of what people type on the forums and many warriors you do not often hear from do not actually want any more utility
they do not want any responsibility
they dont want to be lust guy
or do anything other than 'zug'
that is partially why we do not have any more and blizz knows this
heavy sparrow
It's prot warriors anonymous here,
frozen berry
Let us zug then
dusky canopy
I’m one of those types
toxic pewter
ya
toxic pewter
a lot of people maybe even the unspoken majority of warr players want nothing to do with utility
heavy sparrow
That's why they should keep overal tank damage high. We're already babysitting
lusty grotto
overall tank damage should be high yes
frozen berry
More people play tanks when damage is high
cerulean tusk
If Zugzug beats high skill gameplay, the game is not balanced. As such, if warrior do too good damage, and you consider bringing one over another class because of it... Warrior do need a nerf.
valid spade
Mitigation tanking is boring, it had it's place. We now live in an era where we smash people up and bring friends along to help us not the other way around
toxic pewter
I still think mitigation tanking is fun
im still having fun
and we will still be toward the top in dps
and lets be real we werent being invited to +12s or higher anyway
we basically in same situation
dusky canopy
I like to do as much damage as possible when I tank
I don’t give a shit about how much self healing I did
Or how much damage I mitigated
cerulean tusk
You are naive if you don't think we will get another DPS nerf.
weary saddle
why
cerulean tusk
If warrior do enough damage to be considered, it is too strong.
weary saddle
relativey some tanks scale better than others
valid spade
Cya on the other side
past cobalt
how's thane vs colossus looking right now? if I am a n00b
lusty grotto
same way it did before
cerulean tusk
Same
dusky canopy
Colo infinite damage
golden ravine
how's thane vs colossus looking right now? if I am a n00b
Just play colossus, it's WAY more fun 😄
valid spade
I'm waiting for nimchip to snap
toxic pewter
I am actually happy they did not nerf demolish
cerulean tusk
That is going a bit far, we do ok dam. But we are far from BDK actual uncapped dam.
valid spade
Two days I've been more active here and fair play consistently answers through gritted teeth
golden ravine
That is going a bit far, we do ok dam. But we are far from BDK actual uncapped d...
BDK damage is pure RNG
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
its the same questions over and over lol
cerulean tusk
^
toxic pewter
so how exactly does bdk do big damage?
golden ravine
they proc a blood beast at the start of a pull
toxic pewter
what does blood beast do
lusty grotto
<a:vault:920740470307561553>
dusky canopy
It does damage 4head
golden ravine
stores a % of damage you deal and then explodes dealign that amoutn of damage - scales stupid well in AOE
toxic pewter
oh interesting
golden ravine
15% chance on vampric strike, it procs fairly often .. but it only does giga damage if you proc it at the start of a big pull
cerulean tusk
so how exactly does bdk do big damage?
You deathstrike on ST for millions of damage. On AoE you bloodboil for bloodbeast build up, with heart strike spam to get silly levels of haste
toxic pewter
sounds kinda fun lol
cerulean tusk
It is
golden ravine
as a BDK main, it's fun ... warrior does more damage overall though if you have bad RNG : )
toxic pewter
screw it let em have fun
valid spade
My poor DK sat low level. I got the server first 85 on my Dk... Good times
cerulean tusk
Let's swap to bdk all, so it gets nerfed too
Combined, we would be 9% representation
Hell yeah
golden ravine
BDK has a 2H sword, ofc it should do mroe damage : )
wooden robin
rally needs fixing for 5 man content, i dont think anyone here thinks otherwise
big true, raid cool, m+ just not great IMO
cerulean tusk
What about 2h prot?
valid spade
Did I read it right that there was 10k vdh runs in 12-17 keys lol
Everything else languishing
cerulean tusk
VDH is very popular, as they got dam, utility and survivability in the form of self sustain
We got dam
cerulean tusk
It is the way to go if you want to be in control and buff the mage comps
toxic pewter
I really think vdh needs to lose a sigil. Yes literally remove a sigil from them. Let them pick which it is. (not a just damage one)
valid spade
I want the other ability next to spell block to be viable where you smash them back for X dmg
golden ravine
That would be funny actually
dusky canopy
Or they could just stop gutting other tanks
valid spade
I like the thought of just smashing them with your shield as a f you
golden ravine
they could make utility accessible for other people ... like mass grip for DK which is pretty much untalentable
cerulean tusk
I am going to be sad when nerf hits, and my damage gets chunked. I will spend the rest of the patch trying to reach back to that point
... It always feels ass
dusky canopy
Make stuns and fears irrelevant forms of CC and then wonder why silence sigil is all of a sudden wicked good
toxic pewter
wild most people dont even talk about vdh also got chaos nova and a way to break out of snares lol
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
oh ok
toxic pewter
they need to dumpster that spec
dusky canopy
Atleast
golden ravine
As long as it's not VDH or guardian on top we are good ... guardian is the most borign spec i nthe game I swear
Get a bunch of 3k io bears pressing 2 buttons zzzzz
fluid widget
12% aoe nerf hurts but at least the playstyle isnt changing
last pebble
honestly idk why people think prot warrior wont be invited past 12's. Mans on the front page of raider.io - people will see that think we're meta kekw
toxic pewter
we may drop to lowest played tank after today
the community is already calling us very dead
lusty grotto
meanwhile
last pebble
servers up btw
lusty grotto
the 2nd lowest played tank has a bear in the front page
🙂
of raider.io
think about that
last pebble
yeah and i think bear is actually decently strong too
lusty grotto
vegan is ALWAYS top even when bear isn't meta
last pebble
its the same with holy pally being on the front page
ionic nimbus
GL with your vault us buddies
last pebble
if youre a good player you can play what you want
ionic nimbus
vegan is ALWAYS top even when bear isn't meta
The performance of the whole Team is impressive
undone beacon
vegan is ALWAYS top even when bear isn't meta
Wish I had taken a screenshot of the guy in my guild saying that Vegan is braindead and carried by his team
honest trellis
First week dabbling in prot what spec do you guys open your vault in? so use to playing fury but opening in arms lol
lusty grotto
its a team game
sharp gale
They are insane players it is logic they are top charts the first weeks before meta gap in keys
valid spade
First week dabbling in prot what spec do you guys open your vault in? so use to ...
still arms unless you need/1h or shield
quasi parcel
First week dabbling in prot what spec do you guys open your vault in? so use to ...
literally why i just came here haha
sharp gale
As prot until wep+shield (tome trinket)
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
then flip a coin
toxic pewter
dont open vault
quasi parcel
what if im a secret shopper here to test if yall actually know what your talking about and already read the pin
sharp gale
but what if i dont want to look at pins
valid spade
ah sorry Happy i was being sarcastic 😦 I'm just adding to Nims pain
sharp gale
You never know
valid spade
thank you tho
quasi parcel
we should pin this image
valid spade
im waiting for the best time to ask him how bad the nerfs were
and if i should be MT now
sharp gale
People not sarcastic compatible are more numerous than the others
cerulean tusk
Guys, should we play VDH now?
hearty bloom
real tanks play warior tank
sharp gale
Your friends will leave you if you don’t
valid spade
you're missing the trick you're called funkykitty
coarse ferry
Question - Does No Stranger to Pain node in the colossus tree stack? This is the one that Damage prevented by each use of ignore pain is increased by 20%. Can you get this to 100%?
sharp gale
Question - Does No Stranger to Pain node in the colossus tree stack? This is the...
It means when you press ignore pain it does 20% more absorb
valid spade
^
quasi parcel
im waiting for the best time to ask him how bad the nerfs were
i was telling my buddy i was doing 1.4 mil overall last night with the nerf id prolly be around 900k with a hard guess
sharp gale
Monk healer damage
valid spade
thats not how % works
coarse ferry
thats what I thought.... the way its written made me think it stacked but never saw anything stacking for it 🙂
wind prawn
Oh shit
cerulean tusk
1.4m minus 10% = 900k
cerulean tusk
Warrior math
toxic pewter
is a myth ring worth taking with versa mastery on it
high parrot
😂
quasi parcel
1.4m minus 10% = 900k
its not 10 percent?
sharp gale
900k is no joke monk healer damage in cinderbrew
cerulean tusk
its not 10 percent?
1.4m minus 13% is 900k, happy?
toxic pewter
wat u guys take my vault suck ass
quasi parcel
1.4m minus 13% is 900k, happy?
no i mean like i thought they were taking a bunch of dam off revenge
like 25-30 percent
quasi parcel
i gotta look again i just woke up my brain aint working
cerulean tusk
☕
sharp gale
wat u guys take my vault suck ass
Only suck ass if your gloves and chest already are 678
unborn island
wat u guys take my vault suck ass
I'd be taking the chest and using a catalyst on it ( I still haven't even gotten a hero track chest)
toxic pewter
Only suck ass if your gloves and chest already are 678
both my hands and chest are myth already. LOL
do i take a myth ring with vers mast
jsut awful stats
unborn island
In that case, rip
toxic pewter
this ring suk ass
quasi parcel
<:critcake:984549832511344640> imagine a 30% dam nerf
sorry they took 20 percent off revenge with the reduction on one against many and practiced strikes
sharp gale
do i take a myth ring with vers mast
I will use my joker card and not answer on what you should take on that dog vault
toxic pewter
lol
sharp gale
I guess sim
undone beacon
wat u guys take my vault suck ass
Spare Tire for the transmog obv
toxic pewter
would it be crazy to take hero boots im still using champion boots
sharp gale
So all responsibility is out of you
toxic pewter
Spare Tire for the transmog obv
i actually considered shield for trannsmog
sharp gale
6 coins for 1/2 crafted item?
There is no half spark at the vendor in TWW
toxic pewter
yeah I actually maybe would of done that
cerulean tusk
No? I am sure there is 
undone beacon
There is no half spark at the vendor in TWW
They added one in S1 like halfway through the season iirc
I know because I bought a spark instead of a socket on accident one time
next axle
Currently rocking a sacbrood and a champion track sigil
cerulean tusk
Happy lying again, shame on him
next axle
Also still have S1 boots
undone beacon
Currently rocking a sacbrood and a champion track sigil
to the sims with ye
cerulean tusk
Currently rocking a sacbrood and a champion track sigil
As long you don't take the pig liver, you are golden
sharp gale
Happy lying again, shame on him
No, because I could have a 2h wep on my dk so I checked if he sells it,
The vendor is next to the vault you can check
winged pawn
anyone know if the trinket changes were substantial?
cerulean tusk
They were about 20%
undone beacon
Im more curious about opinions not what the sim says
Both sigil and viscera are garbage so either the cuffs or maybe radio if it sims well for you
Cuffs do have haste/crit so they are nice to have, esp if they are preloaded with a socket
timid wigeon
ToL or bis ring ? I already hit -10% penalty cap for haste
sharp gale
Tome
next axle
Cuffs do have haste/crit so they are nice to have, esp if they are preloaded wit...
They are crit/haste, with speed and a socket
I have the revved up vambraces tho
regal yarrow
champion scrapfield to replace my hero signet of the priory, or myth seaforium pacemaker to replace my hero seaforium pacemaker
dark barn
ToL or bis ring ? I already hit -10% penalty cap for haste
Ofc tome
urban portal
champion scrapfield to replace my hero signet of the priory, or myth seaforium p...
mythic pacemaker, youll never see that again
regal yarrow
good point. Took that one
undone beacon
I have the revved up vambraces tho
at myth track?
next axle
at myth track?
No hero
winged pawn
i opened my vault as arms warrior 
regal yarrow
I normally do that honestly. I have a crafted weapon, and I'll craft a shield. At least opening as arms I can get alt spec gear if my prot rolls are bad
timid wigeon
mythic pacemaker, youll never see that again
I am simming Signet of Priory vs ToL, I only tank in m+, so I feel Signet is more well-rounded
keen obsidian
Considering shield or neck really, any tips? I only really pug normal for Gally shield, but I haven't used my 3 sparks yet to craft and that Neck is looking nice.
drifting hull
Any Myth shield is BiS AFAIK
timid wigeon
Considering shield or neck really, any tips? I only really pug normal for Gally ...
I would go for shield, shield is the most important for shield tanks
toxic pewter
Myth shield if it was me
dark barn
Even if you crafted a 675?
keen obsidian
What did you all end up crafting?
dark barn
Me weapon and shield
jagged pier
Even if you crafted a 675?
yes which is why we say if your likely to get one in the vault or from content
dont craft 1
keen obsidian
Makes sense, appreciate all your input!
undone beacon
I would go for shield, shield is the most important for shield tanks
I made a neck week 1, the pool of necks this season is super shit and everyone is fighting over like, 4 drops
keen obsidian
I made a neck week 1, the pool of necks this season is super shit and everyone i...
Good idea
neat vector
Is shield a better craft than 1h?
dark barn
Yes. Shield is the most important item
neat vector
sharp gale
What did you all end up crafting?
nothing
keen obsidian
lol nice
drifting hull
I simmed on 5 target cleave, 1.5 min, signet does more dps than ToL
Did you use the APL that optimizes Tome usage?
timid wigeon
Did you use the APL that optimizes Tome usage?
APL ?
drifting hull
Is shield a better craft than 1h?
It is better if you are unlikely to get a myth shield from content elsewhere.
harsh trellis
or craft one
drifting hull
APL ?
I am going to go with that you didnt then.
Basically, the sim doesnt know how to use the tome optimally, by keeping it in DPS mode, so it is going to sim worse.
undone beacon
hot diggity
keen obsidian
ooo
timid wigeon
I am going to go with that you didnt then.
Basically, the sim doesnt know how ...
can you teach me how to sim ToL ?
drifting hull
Praise be to Nome
hollow hill
Does raidbots not SIM circe's circlet right? I got a 2nd myth track ring from vault and it still wants me to keep my circlet over having 2 myth track rings at 665
lusty grotto
it sims it right
neat vector
It is better if you are unlikely to get a myth shield from content elsewhere.
Only way I’d get either is from M+ vault luck since I don’t raid ^^
drifting hull
Only way I’d get either is from M+ vault luck since I don’t raid ^^
Well, how many 10s are you doing? and do you have a Hero Shield maxed? and do you open vault in Prot Spec? Shields arent uncommon, but you do have to open vaults in Prot spec, which some people do not do.
lusty grotto
Is shield a better craft than 1h?
yes
drifting hull
If there is a reasonable chance that you are going to get one from vault, some other piece
dark barn
Its a good call to open in prot spec this season because of tome
lusty grotto
and because dps trinkets drop for prot spec too
at least the good ones
only reason why you wouldnt open as prot is if you already have a myth shield
long bronze
who the fuck shit in my vault
catching a giga nerf and a shit vault same week smh blizzard
drifting hull
only reason why you wouldnt open as prot is if you already have a myth shield
And for Tome fishing, no?
lusty grotto
sure
dull vine
Blizzard: Vengeance are overpower, LET'S NERF WARRIOR.
heavy sparrow
lusty grotto
ayo?
long bronze
also my ST sim went down nearly 9%, 5% my ass
drifting hull
gz!
junior marten
Which spec do you guys prefer to play next to prot for dps ? Fury or Arms ?
(or both ?)
heavy sparrow
That trinket looks mighty juicy
junior marten
Oh that makes sense
bitter sparrow
Anyone elses demolish bug them out on world boss?
undone beacon
The sims are saying to take the Vers/Mast ring, the arms sims want the amplifier. This vault makes me sad
neat vector
Well, how many 10s are you doing? and do you have a Hero Shield maxed? and do yo...
10 per week or so. Heroic shield isn’t maxed because I was waiting for vault or craft. I open in arms usually. Seems shield is best craft option tbh
orchid walrus
ok I am still low gear for my tank. And a crazy myth ring dropped in my vault no haste but a bunch of crit and mastery with 1200 leech on it. Should I take that over hero pants?
tender schooner
wtb myth tier 😦
long bronze
and I thought my vault was bad
spark tiger
shouldn't this be 100 and 70%?
long bronze
sure, but unless nobody in your raid wants crit/haste you're probably not getting it soon
I'd take that insta
tender schooner
I'll go under 15k haste though without a rik/brewery neck
long bronze
you can then craft your other ring and do the recraft thing to have two 675 rings
lusty grotto
and yet
dark barn
shouldn't this be 100 and 70%?
Surprise extra nerfs?
lusty grotto
we did it with our monk, and it didnt
so be our guest to try
safe to say if it doesnt work with 1h it doesnt work with rings but who knows
coarse ferry
It doesn't work on 1 handers for sure. I droped 50k gold getting my weap recrafted and it did not work
long bronze
my best craft rn is a ring so I'm going to as soon as I get my 60 crests this evening
I'll report back
coarse ferry
tried it 6 times just to be sure
long bronze
my dk is a jc so ezpz
lusty grotto
for science
coarse ferry
so try with your ring at your own risk
lusty grotto
yeah we tried it like 2-3 times and it didnt
let us know if it works with rings though
long bronze
I will
lusty grotto
the circe thing was unfixed but im sure everyone did it already
long bronze
I need to craft it anyways to fix my haste after I take this dogwater chest from my vault
yeah in theory the cyrce's thing is the same mechanism
lusty grotto
yeah idk what to do with my 3rd craft, i could up my belt or do boots
just going over loot tables to see
long bronze
if not ring I was gonna do boots, I have socketed hero waist and belt already, and cape craft just isn't worth it yet
lusty grotto
no haste/crit belt from the raid
long bronze
yeah you'd have to vault one
lusty grotto
no haste/crit boots either heh
long bronze
lusty grotto
vault flood waist, or vault ML boots
long bronze
I'm not in a hurry xD
and these
I'd love to ditch cyrce's so I can stop having to remember to snapshot it, so I'm just gonna go ring
need to decide if I want to drop ascension for focusing lens
heavy sparrow
Do we have a speed cap?
long bronze
too bad can't dawnthread ring
heavy sparrow
I can tier this right
lusty grotto
sure
urban portal
you wont lose the speed on it
heavy sparrow
I hope the speed carries over
lusty grotto
it does
urban portal
theres a preview too
frail ibex
heavy sparrow
Kk I'll check when I'm home
raw parcel
I'm actually shocked. Three trinkets. Three. How do you get three of the same fucking slot in a vault?
dark barn
Can someone check if colossal might is really nerfed more than promised? Im not in home
raw parcel
Least worst one was Signet, so that's what I'll be running I suppose
long bronze
hero eye of kezan is pretty good
coarse ferry
anyone hit a key yet and see how the nerfs feel?
lusty grotto
catalyst'd belt also has decent stats btw
sharp gale
I will craft the neck too, still rolling with sikran 639
lucid pecan
why is colossal might only giving 5% per stack instead of 7%
small steeple
Sounds like blizzard did an oopsie
lucid pecan
seems they cut the bonus in half by accident
small steeple
SO Tide of Battle nerf was bigger, so either they made an oopsie on the change, or an oopsie on the dev note. Lets hope its the former so they'll fix it
novel spoke
is a mythic signet worth taking to upgrade out of hero cinderbrew stein? they are listed as equal tier trinkets on wowhead, I sim more dps but dunno if thats better than survivability
lusty grotto
post on the forums i guess
strong forum
no signet is pretty bad for us
i would not take signet out of vault
and i wouldnt run stein either
theyre both very mediocre
lusty grotto
if youre gonna post on the forums be specific, the 7% (which you guys are reporting is 5%) is "Tide of Battle"
dont say colossal might only
heavy sparrow
I will craft the neck too, still rolling with sikran 639
Saaaame
heavy sparrow
They lied
coarse ferry
you need to be specific that the passive is tide of battle, not colossal might
torpid nymph
is their a resource that would help me figure out if Jasper Diamond at champ track is better than a Myth Track ring? I tried to us AskMrRobot and I don't trust it
lusty grotto
you need to be specific that the passive is tide of battle, not colossal might
thats what i said
lusty grotto
if youre gonna post on the forums be specific, the 7% (which you guys are report...
^ this
coarse ferry
thats what i said
missed your message 🙂
pallid quiver
is their a resource that would help me figure out if Jasper Diamond at champ tra...
Sims are what you go by, which is Raidbots for the casual user
pallid quiver
no real crazy people will run sims on their own computer
pallid quiver
There's a downloadable client iirc
long bronze
and i wouldnt run stein either
clip it and ship it
strong forum
literally said from day1 that i personally would not run stein
long bronze
I know
I just enjoy beating this dead horse let me have this
I just got nerfed and someone left their turd in my vault
my sim was 1.733m last week and it's 1.59m today
lusty grotto
btw it could be a tooltip error too
long bronze
I cry, that's not only 5%
I've been personally attacked
strong forum
correct
lusty grotto
so... we will see
strong forum
I cry, that's not only 5%<:critcake:984549832511344640> I've been personally at...
do some math will ya
snow salmon
myth tracked helm / shoulders over house of cards hero?
lusty grotto
either way report it
pallid quiver
It's more than a 1 DPS loss
strong forum
cards
long bronze
beep boop
strong forum
anlaki
pallid quiver
unless you rat out a cards from raid this week
long bronze
long bronze
blizzard took 3.4812% away from me specifically
lusty grotto
good belt
strong forum
maybe you werent in execute build
in execute build you lose less dmg because SS is less
long bronze
I was not in execute build in either
valid spade
that makes me feel uneasyh
low thistle
yeah
lusty grotto
lol same
low thistle
squeamish
lusty grotto
GASP
plz delete
lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
good
long bronze
TFW tanky build gets bigger nerf than DPS build
valid spade
it wasnt terrible
lusty grotto
some mind bleach
valid spade
but was uneasy
strong forum
cringe
long bronze
a dude using a deli slicer on his head
low thistle
I have used the search button extensively so please no flame ❤️
Best M+ Trinkets combo is Tome and Pacemaker yeah?
valid spade
hes coming onto you @cerulean tusk
low thistle
where bot
cerulean tusk
hes coming onto you <@237283524040851459>
long bronze
but both of those are good trinkets
valid spade
raidbot
low thistle
ty
valid spade
get your info and then sim vs other trinkets itll do it all for you
lusty grotto
we need Mr Milchick to pen a strong worded letter to Blizzard about this preposterous Tide of Battle tooltip
lucid pecan
I second this notion
vocal pewter
Is modular plating trinket cheeks now?
vocal pewter
Super nice blessed with myth track in vault 🙏🏼
dark barn
First week i did only one 10 in war and got this super stonks trinket. I almost punched the screen
hollow citrus
Is it better to drop ravager or indomn for battering ram? Finally got 4 piece lol
dark barn
Is it better to drop ravager or indomn for battering ram? Finally got 4 piece lo...
Ram for aoe. Ravager for st