Pug affix eh
#protection
unborn island
hollow sphinx
currently i do have head (champion) and chest (hero) for my t-set. missing gloves and legs. saving sparks for something else, or going for gloves/legs with the sparks (2x)?
prisma echo
currently i do have head (champion) and chest (hero) for my t-set. missing glove...
dont use spark on champion lvl because lvl6 dungs give you hero track which will be better
distant scarab
I think you can spell reflect it?
chilly brook
whole room of course
so close
Also I know it's scary losing 10% revenge damage buuuuuuutttttt this makes doing the first pull of pulling everything trivial
errant valley
hey fellas, you seen upcoming changes? Ive been having a blast with our dps output, wonder how much these nerfs will affect it
ah its in the pin nvmd ^^
valid spade
strong blaze
Also I know it's scary losing 10% revenge damage buuuuuuutttttt this makes doing...
worth droppin indom for it?
sharp gale
I think he already drops Indom for ravager
errant valley
Also I know it's scary losing 10% revenge damage buuuuuuutttttt this makes doing...
i specced to that couple days ago, cant even go back
hollow sphinx
dont use spark on champion lvl because lvl6 dungs give you hero track which will...
no i mean, my gloves and legs are hero
or do i save for ring/neck?
valid spade
i know the DPS should be a thing and we have to do some - but if us dropping 10% on revenge breaks the key etc. maybe the DPS want to be better
chilly brook
i know the DPS should be a thing and we have to do some - but if us dropping 10%...
I was mostly saying dropping revenge damage is scary sarcastically
valid spade
yea i get it but i also find it odd that our selling point is oooo we can do DPS
chilly brook
why is that odd?
valid spade
i'd rather have a bit more utility
chilly brook
have you noticed a trend that almost every season, the top tank does giga dam?
chilly brook
I'm also not saying that prot warr is going to be meta btw
valid spade
at the end of the day i can still play it and im enjoying it so im happy regardless
chilly brook
but it's very rare that the meta tank for m+ doesn't do giga dam
valid spade
it makes sense obviously, as more dps --> less need to mitigate and kill shit quick
back to staring at routes and understanding not to be a gimp
unborn island
but it's very rare that the meta tank for m+ doesn't do giga dam
Good job paladins can do giga damage then huh 😛
errant valley
id say we right up there as well tho
unborn island
Been away for a minute, so just wanted to check:
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Are we dead because of the nerfbat? I reckon prot is now unplayable, this is what the tier lists say, what do you think?
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What is this Trinket from Priory everyone is talking about? It looks like garbage and doesn't sim well, what is going on?
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Is there a list of things we can spell reflect somewhere?
(did I get all of them?)
errant valley
i think there is a spell reflect spreadsheet in the pin right?
and from my experience the past week. Id say our dps could use a little tuning tbh xD
nocturne cypress
Been away for a minute, so just wanted to check:
1. Are we dead because of the ...
- How bout checking pins?
- How bout checking pins?
- There is a spreadsheet somewhere iirc but would have to google aswell to find it
chilly brook
Been away for a minute, so just wanted to check:
1. Are we dead because of the ...
- pins
- pins
- pins
like literally
vital vale
nvm instigate is 13% of rage gen, much more than i remembered
chilly brook
lime mantle
Been away for a minute, so just wanted to check:
1. Are we dead because of the ...
Third one is in #protection-faq don't mute them on accident like I did
bold turret
Good morning chaps, any chance we are looking at MT after the nerfs in higher keys now?
onyx vessel
jagged pier
Good morning chaps, any chance we are looking at MT after the nerfs in higher ke...
u could always play ither
the nerfs change nothing
bold turret
So it's still choose the prefered gameplay. Cheers
jagged pier
yes
pulsar pumice
Possibly dumb question from someone who hasn't really played Protection (or Warrior in general) in ages: Are there any skills we can macro together to reduce the amount of keybinds? (I'm guessing no, but doesn't hurt to ask)
jagged pier
not really
onyx vessel
Avatar and dragon roar is what I Marco together
jagged pier
but they dont line up
onyx vessel
I track avatars cd and just hit it when it's off cd
Play Thane drop rav for BSV for more buttons saved
dense remnant
i recently just made a macro for things to press on pull, cos my hands are too slow
vital vale
you can macro your hearthstone to a keybind that also says "gg"
chilly brook
i recently just made a macro for things to press on pull, cos my hands are too s...
Nonsense
Your hands aren’t too slow
You just need better binds
dense remnant
im old
chilly brook
And practice
slate vale
how much % are the nerfs to Colossus ? I guess Sims are not there or ?
dense remnant
it can be done with some keybind changes, but it only comes up once on pull, why would i not make my life easier by just having all of the off the gcd things on the same macro?
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Shield Block
Because having better keybinds makes your whole time of playing the game better
dense remnant
just makes it easier for me on raid boss pull
onyx vessel
Sadly there do be alot of buttons to hit on first pull
dense remnant
this problem is only on pull
chilly brook
```/cast [@cursor]Ravager
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Shield Block
```
Macroing shield block
dense remnant
my keybinds are planned around for general gameplay
chilly brook
dense remnant
not for pull
this macro is literally to pressed once on raid boss pull
never press it outside of that
dense remnant
having buttons in a macro automatically means they cant be bound anywhere else
indeed
this is just an extra button that i have
oak ivy
Never presses shield block again
i think i pressed it maybe 5 times, all of them accidental, on my guilds rik reverb kill
dense remnant
shield block is a dps button
oak ivy
touche
chilly brook
Y’all are crazy
dense remnant
Y’all are crazy
would you care to explain why?
oak ivy
i think my only macro is /cast Intervene /whisper target "hold still you fucking donkey"
dense remnant
or is it just cos you think making your life easier is wrong?
chilly brook
I don’t think it’s really any easier
dense remnant
pressing one button, instead of pressing 4 buttons in the duration of one gcd where you might get meleed by a boss
dunno how thats not easier
onyx vessel
I mean I got lazy in s1 took execute off my bars cuz I'd hit it too much
Glowy button 
Shield charge gives shield block so use it first then
Like on pull could even Marco shield charge and avatar together
chilly brook
I press multiple buttons in the span of a second or two all the time in this spec
What good does making a single macro that I spam for literally the start of a fight
X>C>2>R all in the span of one gcd
dense remnant
just makes it easier to do it right every single time, less strain on hands, and dont have to cater my keybinds around what to do on pull
chilly brook
But it’s the same movements you’re making all the time
It’s not stressing your hand when you already do it
dense remnant
they dont really ever align that way after pull, ever
chilly brook
Certainly have me fooled cuz I do an opener a lot in keys
chilly brook
Sometimes
chilly brook
Tanks always be lazy
unborn island
Mechagon first boss, has anyone figured out a way to make DPS not stand on you while the tankbuster is going off?
Like last 2 runs, I've had people just stack on me and then die
Idk if there's ever been a non raid boss where the tactic was 'stacknin the big circle on the tank'
floral bronze
what brann curios r u guys using?
pulsar orbit
What’s the verdict, huge nerf? Or acceptable?
jagged pier
pulsar orbit
Also side question, why was I being absolutely slapped in cinderbrew 10, yet in other 10’s I’m fine? Too much magic damage?
jagged pier
because mobs hurt
pulsar orbit
Very informative thanks for that insight
valid spade
@floral bronze the bomb and the DNA printer cos they my highest
next apex
Very informative thanks for that insight
i mean i feel as though there are alot of Dots in Cinderbrew
floral bronze
<@307205484958449664> the bomb and the DNA printer cos they my highest
which bomb curio exactly? there are many
valid spade
The gigabomb that bounces I think I'm not at my pc
Goblin grenade or some shit I dunno. Shouldn't matter regardless 11 is a cakewalk
Run bran as DPS and enjoy
floral bronze
Run bran as DPS and enjoy
yeah for sure, just asking for the best speedrun build
next apex
I hope not i like demolish
jagged pier
how about u read the pins
onyx pike
yey prot nerfs 🫰
floral bronze
are the nerfs to one against many maybe a swap to arterial bleed angle?
karmic plinth
probably not
strong forum
The nerfs don't have any impact on what how or where you play what
floral bronze
sure but maybe arterial bleed is now also a competitive choice
strong forum
Only on ST
floral bronze
:/ sadge
strong forum
The bleeds are just too weak
floral bronze
yeah noticed it as well, rend and wounds deal very little damage sadly
valid spade
Colossus wasn't nerfed but thrane slightly buffed I'm staying colossus and you can't stop me
floral bronze
i wish bloodborne (the one talent next to spell block) was a 1 point node
valid spade
I like smashing shit
modest wing
Colo just feels so much better to me. The thunder clap spam doesn't have the same vibe as demolish.
floral bronze
Colo just feels so much better to me. The thunder clap spam doesn't have the sam...
agree, also its fun to do 5M dps on some pulls
keen anvil
i wish bloodborne (the one talent next to spell block) was a 1 point node
They should do away with the 2 point nodes like they did in other class trees. Would open up much needed utility nodes that we have to skip
proven kite
@strong forum so with the nerfs how much dmg do you think we are losing in m+? (I checked the pin, and you say it’s not bad - but how bad we thinkin for colossus
Similarly any idea how the buff to mountanfhane will shake out?
unborn island
<@192743144276623360> so with the nerfs how much dmg do you think we are losing...
Are they live now?
Because I just did a mechagon and still finished with 2m overall and better than the rogue
And I'm not good
floral bronze
they come on reset
floral bronze
<@192743144276623360> so with the nerfs how much dmg do you think we are losing...
-5% aoe -2% st, nothing changes at all
gilded pebble
the nerfs will not stop prot from doing more damage than a shit dps
(that also means it's likely to be nerfed again)
not blood dk tho
keen anvil
How dare we smash?!
gilded pebble
blood dk is fine
proven kite
@unborn island Tuesday reset they happen
unborn island
Oh fair
valid spade
Did an 11 motherlode last night, not the place to go in blind
unborn island
I should have added, that he rogue I beat had managed to die to literally every avoidable mechanic
unborn island
Twice to bombs on first boss, twice to the spinning gears on garden, twice to orbs on last boss
Somehow still had more score than me though, go figure
I guess volume stats make up for it - I can only play at night once wife and baby asleep, so get maybe 2/3 runs a day, back in the day I'd have been doing 10+
keen anvil
So guys, I'm sitting in a predicament. I'm at 657ish Ilvl with 4pc right now. But I'm still wearing 626 legs from the last teir. Do I just say fuck it and craft 675 legs Tuesday?
Like Rookery will not drop legs for me.. it's a travesty
unborn island
I would just spam dungeons with legs? Or wait until see what you get from vault?
Aren't legs a good catalyst choice?
keen anvil
Yeah of course wait to see if the vault blesses me.
floral bronze
So guys, I'm sitting in a predicament. I'm at 657ish Ilvl with 4pc right now. Bu...
wait for next reset, check chest, clear hc raid, do your weekly dungeons if you then still dont have legs, maybe think about crafting
although i wouldt, bcs legs set are bis
jagged girder
The moment you craft it, the moment legs will drop. That's how wow works xd
keen anvil
For sure. But it's also a 50 ilvl upgrade.. haha. Real hard not to just full send it
Will have so many spark and catalyst charges ina few months it won't matter in the long run you'd think?
proven kite
What are some of the best comps you guys have found ?
I like melee cleave with 3 staples:
prot warrior, rshaman, unholy dk, and then fill in 2 others
floral bronze
prot warr, enhancer, ret, disc, hunter is my team with my friends atm
valid spade
Dh enh disc boom is what I'm running not efficient but works
keen anvil
Idk why, I just love a good disc priest and Ret pally blast. Then a range so not every mechanic is landing in melee haha
unborn island
I quite like Ret in pugs, they are quite reliable because they're so easy to play
unborn island
And I haven't had a Ret stand on me on the mechagon tankbuster 🙂
young gyro
Got to love some tank nerfs to the tank spec that brings almost 0 utility. Please Blizzard do tell us how no one plays warrior on the dev team some more.
I understand its not a big nerf but still the main thing Colossus brings is some ok DPS as a tank. And your nerfing it cause the set bonus? Really?
young gyro
But that's all it brings. We are not utility engines like other classes. I would understand if we were on paladins level of utility but we are not.
keen anvil
So what other tank do you guys prefer other than Prot Warrior? Prot warrior has been my main since I started this game like 15-16 years ago and I like to play something different later on in the season.
young gyro
Easy mode: Play Paladin, Hard Mode: Play Monk
rancid tiger
Tbh blood dk i also oftrn enjoy later
errant valley
I understand its not a big nerf but still the main thing Colossus brings is some...
not some ok dmg, absurd amounts of dmg xD im having a blast with it. But this nerf just brings it in line a bit
young gyro
Blood DK is fun but those early hits before you get boneshield up can really hurt.
errant valley
if you check the statistics this nerf still puts prot war way ahead of the other tank specs in dps
solid sun
Checking the statistics!
rancid tiger
That be raid
errant valley
ye
solid sun
I don’t think it’ll be way ahead. Yesterday it was being said that the tanks that can high roll their damage will beat us when they high roll but when they don’t we will be ahead
errant valley
that doesnt say jack
rancid tiger
Power is in m+
young gyro
not some ok dmg, absurd amounts of dmg xD im having a blast with it. But this ne...
That is all they bring to the group. Battle and Rallying are our only utility things group wise. So yes its nice to see Prot getting some DPS with colossus to give us a reason to be brought.
errant valley
what gokke said
rancid tiger
And tbh it is absurd
errant valley
That is all they bring to the group. Battle and Rallying are our only utility th...
id like to see you play a brew and still feel like a prot warr only brings dps to the grp
rancid tiger
At least in the 10-11 range ive pkayed
young gyro
id like to see you play a brew and still feel like a prot warr only brings dps t...
Jokes on you I do play Brew
solid sun
Prot war damage wasn’t absurd imo
rancid tiger
Mby yours wasny
errant valley
well dunno what you guys are doing then
gilded pebble
I don't think prot was overpowerd in m+ either
solid sun
It still got beat by good dps players
gilded pebble
sure it dealt a lot of damage but everyone would rather have a dh
rancid tiger
Nah
solid sun
And prot warrior should deal higher damage than all the tanks that bring far more utility
rancid tiger
It still got beat by good dps players
That means its absurd
young gyro
And prot warrior should deal higher damage than all the tanks that bring far mor...
THis!
errant valley
solid sun
Not really
keen anvil
They should give warrior Blood Lust and call it a day
rancid tiger
Ye
errant valley
and I dont know what you talk about with they have less utitility
rancid tiger
Tbh bl would just help
vocal flame
So what other tank do you guys prefer other than Prot Warrior? Prot warrior has ...
Prot pallys is a lot of fun just tossing your shield around doing crazy damage and healing yourself
errant valley
what do you mean less utility
valid spade
I don't have a paladin I'm half tempted to play one
gilded pebble
not being able to kick the entire dungeon by yourself like prot paladin
valid spade
Just to be captain America
gilded pebble
not brez like prot paladin
rancid tiger
Prot paladin and dh are the biggest m+ offenders
gilded pebble
not controlling the entire dungeon by yourself like dh
errant valley
not being able to kick the entire dungeon by yourself like prot paladin
but you pretty much can
rancid tiger
For util
gilded pebble
but you pretty much can
in what world
errant valley
not controlling the entire dungeon by yourself like dh
but i can
keen anvil
BL on a tank would go so hard..
young gyro
I don't have a paladin I'm half tempted to play one
To be honest they are boring. Most of the stuff they do is baked into the abilities
rancid tiger
But its flashy
valid spade
Perfect
gilded pebble
no you can not, you can say whatever you want
errant valley
in a world where someone actually knows what they are doing i guess xD
rancid tiger
Flashy helps
gilded pebble
but prot paladin has way more kicks than prot warrior
cold shadow
so, just got the tome trinket, if i'm reading correctly, i should aim to be in sword all the time, so that means that i always use the on-use in shield mode?
gilded pebble
that's not a debate
errant valley
im not debating
gilded pebble
if you are the only one doing kicks in the first room of rookery you'll wipe
rancid tiger
Prot warrior has 2? If talentrd if not 1?
gilded pebble
but prot paladin can do it without sweating
keen anvil
BRING BACK BANNERS TOO!
vocal flame
That’s not even a good sample size
errant valley
ok
valid spade
You're not a good sample size!
gilded pebble
maybe you're playing wow 2 where revenge kicks every mob it hits
young gyro
in a world where someone actually knows what they are doing i guess xD
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/rachil/ Thats my monk I dont main her right now so shes not great geared but I do play Brew.
keen anvil
And Glad Stance!
vocal flame
You're not a good sample size!
Damn that hurts bro. I didn’t even have my eggs yet
valid spade
Damn that hurts bro. I didn’t even have my eggs yet
I'm sorry friend
I got kids I'm not playing another thing I dunno why I pretend I would
vocal flame
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/rachil/ Thats m...
Hey they’re getting a 3% damage buff
young gyro
Hey they’re getting a 3% damage buff
still not going to help em
solid sun
And blackout kick tier set shenanigans buffed too!
vocal flame
I got kids I'm not playing another thing I dunno why I pretend I would
Same but mixing it up is fun
errant valley
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/rachil/ Thats m...
well if you do then ill ask you this. Do you feel more safe and in control on a brew then a prot warr right now?
both of mine are 658, ive played all 10s on both and to me brew pales in comparison it feels like a piece of paper
vocal flame
Did you drink enough beer?
keen anvil
What would you guys say is the one tank that plays similar to Prot Warrior? Bear Druid?
errant valley
i drank till one eye was in the back of my socket
solid sun
Clearly not a beer drinker
vocal flame
lol
young gyro
No Brew needs a full sitdown and rework to make them a good tank right now. They can tank lower tier stuff just fine but they baddly need some love and the 3% isnt going to help them.
solid sun
Nobody plays it. Gotta keep all the ret paladins happy
vocal flame
What would you guys say is the one tank that plays similar to Prot Warrior? Bear...
Bear is similar cause it’s the only tank that usage rage other than us and the abilities are similar. It’s boring tho imo
vocal flame
Nobody plays it. Gotta keep all the ret paladins happy
Yeah throw my spiraling hammer and do 7billion damage
velvet knot
are we back to MT or do we stay col?
young gyro
My gripe is that Blizzard gives utility to other tanks and warriors only have the DPS/physical dmg resist they bring to the table and yet they have done nothing but nerf Colossus every time. Im still going to play it but they seem to be anti warrior in how much they nerf it.
keen anvil
What trinkets are you guys using in M+
gilded pebble
the greatest problem of ret is all the sparkly explosions hurt my eyes
vocal flame
COL 🫡
velvet knot
Does col feels far more clunky to you guys than MT?
young gyro
I use Colossus in raid just fine.
vocal flame
the greatest problem of ret is all the sparkly explosions hurt my eyes
Wear these 😎
gilded pebble
not especially no, sure you don't spam as much as MT
young gyro
The stupid nerf was the removing Execute from stacks of Colossal Might.
velvet knot
not especially no, sure you don't spam as much as MT
i like how spammy mt was
vocal flame
Yeah Col is fine in raid just an option for MT
velvet knot
col feels slower and idk what to fill the time with
vocal flame
You should be spamming revenge
velvet knot
I am
young gyro
Revenge is your bread and butter when your a Colossus tank.
vocal flame
It’s the same rotation just replace TC boom with revenge
keen anvil
Does col feels far more clunky to you guys than MT?
Agreed.. I find myself sitting in between globals.. I'm probably not playing it the correct way.. MT naturally makes me speed up my gameplay and when I switch to Col I bash IP to much I think since Col doesn't have as much rage generation but way larger IPs.. Just a different style I can't get used to
vocal flame
I think you miss the thunderbolts
velvet knot
Agreed.. I find myself sitting in between globals.. I'm probably not playing it ...
omg you get it
sharp fossil
hey guys, i was about to roll prot war but they said prot war is dead after nerfs, it's true ?
velvet knot
Agreed.. I find myself sitting in between globals.. I'm probably not playing it ...
100% I col just feels so slow and my adhd brain needs something to press.
vocal flame
100% I col just feels so slow and my adhd brain needs something to press.
Single target yes
young gyro
Our main tank was out for heroic One Armed Prog and I hadnt tanked any of LoU but I was asked to tank him and we got him in 4 attempts. So Colossus when done right can be very good at tanking.
vocal flame
hey guys, i was about to roll prot war but they said prot war is dead after nerf...
Far from dead. If you’re looking for Meta play DH / prot pally
keen anvil
Col atleast for me just takes more patience and I have to track IP alot closer.. I push way to much rage into into it instead of revenge because I play MT in M+
young gyro
Its not dead but the nerfs are not needed.
hollow flower
Did they make the internal cooldown of the tome of light shorter?
young gyro
Like I said if we brought more utility I could understand the nerfs... we do not. So nerfing the big thing we bring which for Colossus is DMG i not the answer.
hollow flower
i sometime go into defensive mode before cd is up
vocal flame
Like I said if we brought more utility I could understand the nerfs... we do not...
Blizzard are idiots when it comes to class balance
vocal flame
i sometime go into defensive mode before cd is up
You can stay in D mode if you want
young gyro
They need to fire whoever claims to be the warrior Dev, they are just milking WoW for a paycheck.
keen anvil
I don't think you can classify prot warrior as dead. It still the best tank for physical damage mitigation? And there isn't an over bearing amount of magic damage this season imo? And good prot warriors know how to use spell reflect and spell block.. it's not like our survivability got nerfed.. so we gucci
vocal flame
More bleed than magic damage. Dwarf OP!
vocal flame
They need to fire whoever claims to be the warrior Dev, they are just milking Wo...
He is probably in his playpen right now playing with his blocks
keen anvil
Yeah.. thank God those creepers dots can be disspelled now. Lmao
vocal flame
Yeah brutal lol
keen anvil
When that cart doesn't stop and you got 3 creepers on you.. fuckin RiP.
vocal flame
They should make them Minecraft creeper and blow up lol
keen anvil
For such a free key, that is literally the only trash in all the dungeons I hate.. haha
vocal flame
I was hoping they were going to just take the L and redesign that part
keen anvil
They kind of did? It's not near as bad when the exac came out.
vocal flame
True I wanted it removed lol
young gyro
Most have gear now and understand how it works it was a pain at the start no question
vocal flame
Tell that to the DPS in my pug last night who took the spear to the face and flew across the room and got one shotted on candle king
Was funny to watch tho
solid sun
That happened to a healer in one of my pugs the other day
keen anvil
Lmao. I think that key as a tank is mechanically the easiest.. do nothing on all the bosses
solid sun
Two wax statues just hanging out right next to them and they ate the spear right to the face
Flew off into the abyss
vocal flame
Lmao. I think that key as a tank is mechanically the easiest.. do nothing on all...
I agree
keen anvil
I wonder when people will learn how to do the 2nd boss in rookery correctly with the hot potato mechanic
violet ginkgo
The stupid nerf was the removing Execute from stacks of Colossal Might.
I still wonder why they decide to do this.
solid sun
Also thankfully even if the minecart zooms forever the creepers don't do anything now
Dungeon is so free
keen anvil
The stupid nerf was the removing Execute from stacks of Colossal Might.
The stupid nerf was them reworking anything from S1 to S2 when the class played just fine..
I think the only place I don't like as much is ToP and that's just because I didn't play much of SL and don't have that place routed up near as good
vocal flame
that place is litearlly just press w
keen anvil
Like that fuckin dumb tornado frontal on the small platforms.. fml. Lmao
vocal flame
oh yeah avoid that lol
it clipped me once i swear i avoided it
ill die on that hill
keen anvil
I just don't know what to pull and what not to pull in there.. I made a real dummy mistake and pulled that patrol in between the 2 big Lt Mobs into one of em.. opsies
young gyro
I still wonder why they decide to do this.
We never got an answer as to why this nerf was put into place.
Dracthyr can get out of that knockback if your quick enough.
neon elk
Warr can too
keen anvil
Yeah. I tried to heroic leap instead of charge.. paniced.. lmao
solid sun
What’s the play for alt dps spec
solid sun
What are we having fun with
young gyro
Best of both worlds.
keen anvil
Aww. Idk. I'm thinking on going Ret later just because they blast with limited effort
sharp gale
I just don't know what to pull and what not to pull in there.. I made a real dum...
if you did some keys in dps where you could see stuff going wrong, the general goal is to not do these pulls in pug
solid sun
Doing keys as a role that isn’t tank really helps me see the dungeon from a different perspective
It’s def very helpful
sharp gale
if you typed "healer?" in dps, you know as tank you don't pull to much of these mobs
keen anvil
if you did some keys in dps where you could see stuff going wrong, the general g...
Yeah. I just pulled it like that because I did it on a lower key and it went just fine.. well.. a +9 was a different case.. still timed the key.. Just took 3 death and kiting the adds back.. Just know not to do that again. Lol
sharp gale
you can hard carry by just not pulling the pack that will make you wipe
or if you think people don't know what to do, you can carry by not pulling the boss and type
and if they didn't read just leave the key
solid sun
Sometimes it’s a matter of evaluating the pug squad during the dungeon.
Like in rookery there’s the door to the second boss and before it is a pull with two crushers and two big dudes
If the group is shaky I’ll do that in two pulls instead of one
keen anvil
Sometimes it’s a matter of evaluating the pug squad during the dungeon.
Exactly.. my route and what I pull (amount at a time atleast) changes based off the the very first 2 pulls.. can normally see how it's going to go very early on
sharp gale
or in priory in pug second boss room, take only the first pack and the middle small dudes just to see if your pug healer can actually heal at least 2 paladins before taking 3-4 at the same time
when you go higher in keys you don't have to do these pug check things, you just wipe and leave if he can't
solid sun
That’s gotta feel bad for the healer
keen anvil
Love how Cinderbrew can be seen if it's going to work based off the first pull in a pug. Go left.. and every dps uses CDs and you're still getting fucked.. it's no good. Lmao
Go right**
solid sun
If you just pull the people at the tables Chewie isn’t there
keen anvil
because go left = chewie is in your pack 100%
Done that pull before he got nerfed.. not advised. Lmao
solid sun
Still like 4 or 5 packs
sharp gale
Done that pull before he got nerfed.. not advised. Lmao
that's why you start right
he starts patrol going left when you launch the key
keen anvil
Lower keys are for learning my friends
keen anvil
If you pull the mobs back a little you won't get him.
sharp gale
that's why i never judge people in my group when i'm in lower keys
keen anvil
But it's always a stray from a ranged or something then he's on ya
Ret pally tornado grabs him or something
sharp gale
yep and in pug if something can go wrong, it will (that's what i use to do pug routes)
idle copper
I go left and have him marked and warn them not to aggro them, havent pulled him for ages now
keen anvil
I go right and I never pull the mobs on the back left wall. Just a little less trash
sharp gale
idk i stopped going left and i haven't pulled him for ages too, seems just preference
idle copper
With Tome - On pull we want it on Armour so when we use it it gives Magic absorb but switches to DPS bonus?
vocal flame
I’ve always gone left and never pulled him
think he starts in the northern end left and goes to the bar then goes right
sharp gale
what i do
vocal flame
i do similar but 1, fat boy, 2
solid sun
Do you fight him alone
vocal flame
With Tome - On pull we want it on Armour so when we use it it gives Magic absorb...
Sword = more dps
sharp gale
i do chewie with 2 now when the hired muscle is dead
solid sun
Since the nerf I pull a pack or two with him
vocal flame
i fight him alone he hurts but i pug 99%
solid sun
I have max cooking. I’m not scared of him
idle copper
I taper a dieing pack into him, then when hes on a 1/3rd health i pull boss
keen anvil
You cam skip that 3 pack on the left on back wall.. you never get close enough on the boss drink run to actually pull em.. a little way to skip some trash
vocal flame
You cam skip that 3 pack on the left on back wall.. you never get close enough o...
prob later on in the season right now so many people are learning
but again i pug
idle copper
The only skips I do are the 2 little packs by the steps of the bee boss and the pack of mini bee on the back wall
keen anvil
So I start right. Kill that. Pull chewie and 1 pack, then finish the left and go into boss because the yellow mobs just run put anyways
sharp gale
i have the count*
vocal flame
So I start right. Kill that. Pull chewie and 1 pack, then finish the left and go...
that works
idle copper
I skip them
vocal flame
yeah and they put a nasty dot on u
idle copper
the bees at the back you can just mount up and theyll despawn
sharp gale
oh yeah in "dont give a fuck" key i do
keen anvil
Yeah. I've tried to just do that first pack and jump down.. someone always fucks it up lmao
sharp gale
Yeah. I've tried to just do that first pack and jump down.. someone always fucks...
don't insta enter combat if you have someone with a pet in your group
the pet aggro only if the hunter is in combat
keen anvil
I think it's more or less people seem to get to close to the stairs.
But that could be some of it too.
sharp gale
I think it's more or less people seem to get to close to the stairs.
so what do you do as tank ?
don't go near the stair
with the death ball
(the pack)
if too much people pull by being too close of the stair : takes as "there will be always a pull by someone near the stair" = move the pack far from the stairs
keen anvil
I don't. I usually pull it back into that corner and tuck away. You know some pugs think they gotta stand out in BFE. I haven't tried that skip in a higher key yet. Prob will work with some more experienced players
I need to start getting my rating higher. Got to 2K for the catalyst charge then started farming certain pieces on lower keys. Haha. Can jump my rating up significantly if I just went and got my portals done real quick. Been chasing legs and the trinket from floodgate
hollow sphinx
what is your 1st pull in sacred flame? (on 11)
mild river
what is your 1st pull in sacred flame? (on 11)
I usually do 4 packs with lust and everyone stacked in melee
idle copper
whats the score with last seasons 3K rio dps being absolutely garbage??
Im at the point where Im using it as criteria not to select them
wide charm
a 3k io rating does not mean shit from previous season
The difference between getting 3k in the first couple weeks versus the end of the season is VAST.
idle copper
yep but they are consistently bad, im getting much better groups with just purely going off lower scores this season
as in even if they have a comparable score this season to someone else, if they had 3k last season they are just proving to be mega hard work,
frosty mango
what is your 1st pull in sacred flame? (on 11)
Four packs with lust, don’t double the knights
The knights are the only dangerous mob
remote anchor
Shooters might randomly murder someone
frosty mango
Shooters might randomly murder someone
Highly unlikely if only one knight
The danger is when disrupting shout overlaps with random shooter damage
Only one knight makes it easy to plan for the healer
You can shockwave after the first shout immediately and usually that’s enough to ensure no one gets clipped by random damage
You can pull 5-6 packs if you’re in a super coordinated group with a disc priest, just barrier the first shout and personal the second
Everything will be dead before it comes again
mild river
yep but they are consistently bad, im getting much better groups with just purel...
The ones with 3k IO bricked my 13 Rook bc of lacking of interrupts. So I assume people are still bad or they don't interrupt bc they are used to play with prot paladins.
gusty patio
I'm switching to prot from Arms for easier m+ queues and to play in raid. What's currently our highest single target raid build? I'm finding conflicting info
half jewel
What are you guys doing to get the sharpshooters in priory in to the group since they just sit there not moving? Bringing people with grips? What about no grips? Monks don't always seem to know about ring of peace.
That seems to be the consistently worst part for me.
unborn island
What are you guys doing to get the sharpshooters in priory in to the group since...
They jump into melee if everyone in melee
jagged pier
the jump on ppl u just need to stack as a grou
floral zealot
sup, whats the nerf in total % ?
mild river
They jump into melee if everyone in melee
That's the hardest thing to ask in pugs. They won't do it
half jewel
So while we wait for them to jump on us, just let them stand out and shoot?
jagged pier
sup, whats the nerf in total % ?
mild river
sup, whats the nerf in total % ?
Read the pins
keen leaf
I think it's been said before, but is there a haste % where ITF becomes better
unborn island
So while we wait for them to jump on us, just let them stand out and shoot?
Hit them a bit when gathering if possible.
But most of their attacks are random I think?
mild river
But most of their attacks are random I think?
Yes. It is
half jewel
Ok, I just remember one run someone complained I wasn't tanking the mobs on them when I first gathered the 2 packs by the well + the first pack and the knight on the right. So I was wondering if I did/didn't do something.
floral zealot
Read the pins
ty
idle copper
what is your 1st pull in sacred flame? (on 11)
I've taken to marking the left side of the wall up the very first steps and pre-telling everyone to stand there.
I then aggro first pack, leap get aggro on the right patrol and middle pack and charging back .
There is usually at least one idiot DPS sticking out so I intervene to get back a bit quicker as well
It's seems convoluted but it goes well (usually)
idle copper
I think it's been said before, but is there a haste % where ITF becomes better
Unless it's changed one of the sweats on here said 14k with 4pc
idle copper
sup, whats the nerf in total % ?
5% AoE, 2% ST
arctic citrus
Enough to make ppl cry when the see they are on 4th place on details 😄
idle copper
Annoying though, we are basically being nerfed because a chunk of DPS can't actually DPS
idle copper
Plus they didn't seem to have an issue with PPala ridiculous DPS and Uber utility
half jewel
They won't nerf pala into the ground, its too much of a favorite lol. Always been that way
rancid tiger
I mean prot pala does so less than us now no?
half jewel
I think they meant in the past cuz we might have more DPS now but lack the utility that pala has
rancid tiger
Tank meta is also decided by dps meta + healer
half jewel
The only times I really recall them nerfing pala was when it was a blanket nerf or specific to their healing as tank
timid wigeon
on what sim did wowhead claim the nerfs are only 5% of AoE and 2% in ST ? SS, Revenge, Colossus consist of 75% of my dmg in m+ and they will get nerfed by 10% to 15%. How can it be translated to 2%-5% ?
neat vector
Just play thane like a gigachad ez
timid wigeon
Just play thane like a gigachad ez
for more dmg nerf ?
neat vector
timid wigeon
thane doesn't do any AoE dmg
heavy sinew
is there spread sheet for what abilities are reflectable like the other seasons
waxen frigate
is there spread sheet for what abilities are reflectable like the other seasons
Pins
Sense keeps it up to date afaik
heavy sinew
soz keep forgetting pins are a thing mb
waxen frigate
Saul Goodman
heavy sinew
anyone tried to reflect the mudslide in floodgate?
just seems outrageous to be able to reflect that(according to the spread sheet you can)
on third boss
mild river
anyone tried to reflect the mudslide in floodgate?
Is it reflectable?
mild river
Omg 😲
heavy sinew
if im gonna try it im gonna be popping all defensives xD
mild river
Lol I have a Flood 13. I won't test it there
waxen frigate
Reflectavle or deflectable
solid sun
It’s a deflect
solid sun
Look to the right of magic
mild river
I might apply to a 5 FD and see
heavy sinew
soz for getting ppls hopes up xD
mild river
But I'm sure if it's reflectable, it does almost zero damage to the boss
Bc blizz nerfed that kind of stuff
Why? Bc they hate us lol
prisma echo
Guys do we have any info how to sim? In pins there is only info about tome
1t/4min for st, 4t/40sec for aoe? Is dungeon slice working for prot?
solid sun
I usually do 5 minute patchwerk for ST and 5 targets 1 minute patchwerk for aoe
surreal lodge
Does collosus still out perform mountain thane even after patch by a significant margin?
solid sun
I don’t use dungeon slice
timid wigeon
Does collosus still out perform mountain thane even after patch by a significant...
I don't think the nerfs change anything related to builds
solid sun
Both will be completely fine to use
sharp gale
Both ARE fine to use
timid wigeon
Firstly, on 5 target cleave, currently my col does 40% more dmg than thane
2ndly, from my experience, Col is sturdier than Thane
sharp gale
^
Col is so far above thane in damage only surv could possibly be the difference but col can survive enough
sharp gale
It’s not but not by a lot
So if surv doesnt have meaningful difference = doesn’t care it’s just about damage
prisma echo
Guys can you recommend any prot warrior streamers/youtubers?
timid wigeon
to play thane, we have to drop immovable object for unstopable force, which would lead to a loss of a crucial short def cd. Additionally, Colossus has passive 5% DR on top of 10% DR from Demolish, which has very high uptime. The bigger IP is a nice bonus as well.
soft kernel
kiratank_tv
young gyro
I stream but Im not always tanking.
prisma echo
I stream but Im not always tanking.
Ill check 🙂 thanks!
young gyro
Im a mix of Arms and Prot
However I'm a variety streamer so like today I'm not doing WoW just to mix things up.
prisma echo
I searched asheru wow on yt and didnt expect results xd
young gyro
I dont do YT right now only Twitch.
solid sun
Nom streams and he’s the wowhead guide writer
He answers questions too, or at least he did when I hopped in
sharp gale
Is he not evoker gaming ?
solid sun
Idk last I tuned in he was playing prot
winged pawn
anyone have a good transmog set thats decently easy to get? im rocking base gear appearence rn
neat vector
Wrathful gladiator set
sharp gale
Im in nathria set since last season
(With another head)
Maybe I’ll try to get PvP and world PvP undermined sets
mild river
i feel good and worried at the same time xd
Dps are bad or just low ilv. Once you meet good dps you'll see the truth
winged pawn
i feel good and worried at the same time xd
beast
full heart
Sorry if this has already been answered before, but has anyone posted which trinkets are BiS after the recent changes?
upbeat geyser
Nerf on war prot is huge or is ok ?
charred ivy
Tanked priory 9. Any tips on first 2 Bosses? Hit me like a truck
U guys go left before first boss?
idle copper
anyone have a good transmog set thats decently easy to get? im rocking base gear...
Pretty easy to get bar the helm
unborn island
Tanked priory 9. Any tips on first 2 Bosses? Hit me like a truck
The first boss does hit like a truck, just use your CDs and hope the healer is good
lone zinc
You could try going right, I haven't tried it myself since the nerfs to the forge guy and the nerfs to taenor. I did it once prior to the nerfs and it was a god damned nightmare.
idle copper
Was the helm i went with until i got the other one
mighty valley
Nerf on war prot is huge or is ok ?
Check pins, it’s not that big a deal
small steeple
Pretty easy to get bar the helm
oh that looiks cool, what is that?
unborn island
You can hax it a bit with dwarf racial + if you have an evoker for cauterize which will make the bleed a non issue, making the whole thing kinda trivial
small steeple
And it looks good on a dwarf
idle copper
oh that looiks cool, what is that?
List of transmog is on the side
Most of it is out of two old raids
too maybe 3 resets to get it all? If you have alts youd do it quicker now
unborn island
I suck at making mogs 🙂
small steeple
List of transmog is on the side
That the helmet from antorus?
idle copper
And it looks good on a dwarf
tbh its looks good on all races, if you imput it into wowheads wardrobe you can change the race easily to have a look
unborn island
What I'm rocking now 🙂
idle copper
That the helmet from antorus?
Bought it off the black auction house - not sure where its from orginally - not availabel in game per say now (bar black auction house)
idle copper
What I'm rocking now 🙂
Disco :)
small steeple
Bought it off the black auction house - not sure where its from orginally - not ...
yeah ok it is from antorus, drops off Eonar
sharp gale
Pretty easy to get bar the helm
Smol hammer L but cool mog
small steeple
I like smol hammer there
idle copper
yeah ok it is from antorus, drops off Eonar
honestly dont think you can gety it as a drop now
maybe a recolour
unless your on about the 2nd one i posted
small steeple
Oh wait you had 2 pcitures, im looking at second one didn't even see first
idle copper
yep sorry my bad
yep the 2nd ones antorus
theres a few bits of that mog from that raid
small steeple
Hmm how long does it take to unlock antorus now days?
None of my current max level toons have it
idle copper
Oh wait you had 2 pcitures, im looking at second one didn't even see first
does quite go but this is the back of it
dont remember unlocking it tbh - cant have been long, i dont have much patience for stuff like that
small steeple
Whats need for the tabard as well, I assume its a DF rep
idle copper
Thats a questline something to do with one of the two dragon guys - the pretty one with the black hair i think
notg sure if it starts there but pretty sure it was done in the caverns
idle copper
he looks like he spends too long on doing his hair tbh
small steeple
looks funny on a goblin lol
idle copper
ok i take back looks good on all races
it looks good on all races i would consider playing :)
sharp gale
So many mogs are dog ugly on gnomes, it is quite a challenge
cerulean tusk
Just play nelf
teal tendon
sorry guys quick question, how much does one use of ignore pain absorb(roughly)? havent played warrior in years
cerulean tusk
Solved
cerulean tusk
sorry guys quick question, how much does one use of ignore pain absorb(roughly)?...
When you need to dump rage, or need the shield for something specific mechanic
It is all in the WoWhead guide 
idle copper
Just play nelf
Honestly find them too gangly
teal tendon
When you need to dump rage, or need the shield for something specific mechanic
...
just asking the value
idle copper
what i want is an 8ft tall dwarf proportailly bigger than what they are now
lone zinc
654 prot war, it absorbs 1.6 million up to 4.3 million for me. Obviously it will change based on gear and situation. This is just a raw number, nothing going on.
cerulean tusk
just asking the value
WoWhead ignore pain, Google that for the number
idle copper
sorry guys quick question, how much does one use of ignore pain absorb(roughly)?...
its a lot more adaptive now in so far as its not the go to dump - you can go large parts of the dungeon not overly using it but then dump eveything into for certain mobs or mechanics
lone zinc
Naturally I'm also playing colossus (like most wars, not all of course) so that increases the per press value too.
idle copper
im still getting used to not spamming it
teal tendon
its a lot more adaptive now in so far as its not the go to dump - you can go lar...
sry If i wasn't clear, im looking for a number value of how much it absorbs ( like 1m, 2m 3m etc) the wowhead formula doesnt give me an idea.
small steeple
Aborb shield is capped at 33% of hp I want to say for IP
teal tendon
i know it much scale with stats but just looking for an idea
small steeple
Not 100% on that number
idle copper
sry If i wasn't clear, im looking for a number value of how much it absorbs ( li...
Just tested on target dummies and got 1.3million first press and it topped out at 4.2million
pallid quiver
Aborb shield is capped at 33% of hp I want to say for IP
Shooould be 30% of max HP currently for cap
teal tendon
Just tested on target dummies and got 1.3million first press and it topped out a...
thank you, that's what i was looking for, i knew it was capped but i just wanted to know how much each cast gave you
idle copper
thank you, that's what i was looking for, i knew it was capped but i just wanted...
Just got a 1.4million first press - so its a bit adaptive
sharp gale
30% is the winner
pallid quiver
thank you, that's what i was looking for, i knew it was capped but i just wanted...
Colo and Thane will also have different amounts of absorb per press, as Colo gets more IP per press
And obviously, as uffs come and go, presses will give more or less
idle copper
thank you, that's what i was looking for, i knew it was capped but i just wanted...
Ive got a smidgen over 14million HP
sharp gale
Hey, you did it
Thanks, not everyone has this skill
idle copper
Just under 15million if i take idomintable
cerulean tusk
15m or get out
idle copper
Honestly if i thought i needed id switch back fine atm but just doing 10/11s
cerulean tusk
I am doing 12 with no indom and only BSV if I feel bad vibes from the healer 
idle copper
what do you drop for BSV?
cerulean tusk
Rav
dapper vapor
Just started to love the new demolish button, is it less ahead of Thane now
tulip oar
At what % haste does heavy repercuss take over?
muted spire
its a lot more adaptive now in so far as its not the go to dump - you can go lar...
Wait, so we're not just trying to always atleast have IP active? I've just been always using it if the buff is going to run out/the buff is low
mighty valley
Wait, so we're not just trying to always atleast have IP active? I've just been ...
long term it’s better to make sure you always have enough rage to keep pressing buttons
which can mean IP drops if you don’t get SS resets for a bit
muted spire
But lets say I have 70 rage, and my IP is low
I've always restacked IP over using Revenge
mighty valley
kind of depends — do you have any CDs coming up, is TC available, etc
but having dead globals is bad and to be avoided
dense hound
idle copper
Wait, so we're not just trying to always atleast have IP active? I've just been ...
its obviously pull dependant but im not having any hardship letting it drop off. That said my last run it was up 83% of the time - but it was a Floodgate and ive barely ran it so i might have been subconciously keeping it up more
rare basin
Will there be any trinket changes for prot with the hotfix?
bright grotto
Will there be any trinket changes for prot with the hotfix?
Yeah, some trinkets get stronger with the hotfix but it's not just for prot. It's for everybody.
idle copper
Yeah, some trinkets get stronger with the hotfix but it's not just for prot. It'...
do you have a link please
restive oak
do the nefs make thane more competitive now?
toxic pewter
I’m too lazy to go through all that
round pendant
do the nefs make thane more competitive now?
like a few % more competitive
but ss got nerfed too so
idk
restive oak
now i have to sim stuff, boo
agile elbow
Just reroll Brewmaster. It's all over.
elder viper
what is the difference between thunderous roar and champions spear for prot raid specs?
i went through some logs and found a bunch using roar over spear, but all guides say spear
cerulean tusk
Spear is better, in most theoretical scenarios in raid.
Roar got no complexity, no thought, just a press.
We like simplicity
stray sonnet
I want to craft either a 1h or ring with crit/haste. I play to plan arms on the side. Do I craft a ring instead?
stray sonnet
I currently have a hero track 1h for Prot
cerulean tusk
I want to craft either a 1h or ring with crit/haste. I play to plan arms on the ...
Maybe craft a mainstat piece over a ring?
Str is is king
stray sonnet
I could to belt or back but isn’t ring better?
elder viper
cloak
cerulean tusk
You can buy belt soon, so I wouldnt craft that spot
stray sonnet
With the dinars? I think I would rather buy a Kezan trinket right?
cerulean tusk
With gold
cerulean tusk
BoE this season is belt and shoulders
I am just getting declined today
what is going on
the nerf killed us, confirmed
mild river
I don't ever apply. I just do my own keys and hope I get the ones I need lol
agile elbow
Not even nerfed yet which is the sad part. Lmao.
crisp crown
how fast will the new WoWhead trinket tier list get updated with the trinket buffs and nerfs incoming?
small steeple
how fast will the new WoWhead trinket tier list get updated with the trinket buf...
it won't lol. Trinket buffs changed nothing really
crisp crown
aight
worldly parrot
I just decided to use prot again after not using it since like bfa, I use fury normally for most things like world content. I switched to prot partially to use it in delves and I wondered if it is possibly better in general for world content, and if i group as dps i can switch back to fury. Is it worth using prot for anything other than like delves or occasional heroic dungeons?
wooden robin
I stay prot because I'm lazy and kill stuff fast regardless
tender schooner
I stay prot because I'm lazy and kill stuff fast regardless
this
worldly parrot
true lol
i have just been trying it out on the training dummies and it seems to do a good amount of damage, i just dont know about if i can stay prot and do dps if needed in group content without pulling aggro
sonic terrace
New to prot like I get the gist of it and stuff but what makes thane more tanky than col? Or is it just in my head it is
cerulean tusk
Thane does more IPs and got flat dam red coming in from blasts with phy% dam red
worldly parrot
this is what i have right now, i think im just using the icy veins "standard M+" build
cerulean tusk
Taking booming, or get shot
worldly parrot
I also dont know if i need to use rend as an ability at all in thunder clap casts it for me
sonic terrace
Thane does more IPs and got flat dam red coming in from blasts with phy% dam red
Ahh tyty
worldly parrot
ok
cerulean tusk
You dont use rend
cerulean tusk
Occationally if you got no SS, TC, CD to fill
this one is not worth an end note talent
At least take
if you want to be safer
jagged girder
I would find another build, this one has no booming nor ravager?
cerulean tusk
It is fair if you want to swap it out for more d-power or the cheat death
I prefer more DPS, but I wont force that upon others
tender schooner
^ ya me too, but thane is good for those who don't want to "accidentally" die to demolish 😛
I may have done that once or twice
lone zinc
I've a strong love/hate relationship with demolish. Love the Big hurty on big packs. Don't love the "I zugged too hard and now I'm gonna get hit cuz I can't move."
cerulean tusk
He plays Thane, but yea, it just a neato talent to have in case things go badly when you try things out
strong forum
moving 2 points away from 3rd gate and picking Best served cold instead of ravager is a WILD choice
pls do this atleast
i beg
or into booming voice
cerulean tusk
Poor Nome triggered
strong forum
but that point up there is ILLEGAL
tender schooner
the wowhead m+ thane pwarr build is this
jagged pier
That is an illegal tree 
jagged pier
The second one better
tender schooner
ohhh
cerulean tusk
Prob made by the same guys who during the PTR said Pwarr had bad dam
lusty grotto
yes, mwahi writes it
pallid quiver
It's also not the tree on IV
lusty grotto
yeah thats def not a tree in IV
tender schooner
ya was just double checking IV builds too, good call
lusty grotto
but you can trust Luerce 🙂
unborn dragon
How is lock n stalk on prot?
lusty grotto
its decent
unborn dragon
Mkay cool
Got lucky the other night and none of the DPS wanted it so I said sure why not
cerulean tusk
it is so over
tender schooner
the amount of 10's I see with veng, disc, havoc is crazy
like you can do 10's without lust
lone zinc
Just delete the toons now, reroll bdk or something idk I just zug.
tender schooner
I'm a reroll from BrM, can't mentally do it again
cerulean tusk
You rerolled to warrior?
pallid quiver
wait, this is what I see on IV:
Yeah, if you're taking indom.and have 4p, you drop Ravager
cerulean tusk
that was a bad idea, now wasnt it
tender schooner
meh i only do mythic raid so idc, as least I can hold threat against my cotank
pallid quiver
You don't drop Booming to grab random talents higher in the tree
sharp gale
like you can do 10's without lust
You can do rank 1 of your non meta spec without lust
lusty grotto
thats a bad cook
cerulean tusk
You a bad cook
pallid quiver
Ur mon's a bad cook
lusty grotto
this is true, only cousin ratatouille is good
pallid quiver
Got the bad juju
cerulean tusk
deserved
cerulean tusk
Ratataouilie?
polar cloak
best emblishment for prot
lusty grotto
ratatouueuuerueueeeee
polar cloak
?
cerulean tusk
you just married after all
lusty grotto
c:
tender schooner
depends, the double vers 80% one is consistent, but crafted weapon ascendance and writhing probably do more dam early in the season
valid spade
I've seen two topless people on here so far. I'm going to be the third and best
cerulean tusk
Dont forget the duckface
fallow fern
Just curious if the changes swing more favor to thane..? Or is the play still colossus?
cerulean tusk
Depends what you are looking for, dam or surv. Thane edges out on def, and Col on dam.
So it is a question of what you value more.
If you want to play Thane, play Thane. It isnt the greatest of differences.
lusty grotto
ST might lean more to thane than before, but thats not saying much
was kind of the case already in execute heavy specs
the pins are pretty self-explanatory
sharp gale
Yeah raid st is execute carry so who cares which hero
fallow fern
I like the dam of colo.. but I feel like I get to push more buttons in thane so prefer it a bit more..
sharp gale
And after 1 week every bosses of a nm raid become ST bosses and 2-3 weeks for hm
vale goblet
Hello anyone got the reflect gdoc ?
lusty grotto
its pinned
violet ginkgo
it's in the pin
lusty grotto
always is
vale goblet
Ty 🙏
plain ice
i've noticed that the 20 sec avatar buff is overwritten by the 4 sec avatar buff from Immovable Object - known bug?
lone zinc
Is there a specific instance that this is happening to you? I just tried it and it seems to be working fine for me.
Popped avatar, then popped shield wall at 18 secs of avatar, timer went up to 22
candid yacht
What's y'all's thoughts on running Bomb Suit, and ToLD trinkets together? I am pretty good about keeping the ToLD stuck on crit.
plain ice
Popped avatar, then popped shield wall at 18 secs of avatar, timer went up to 22
wtf - it refreshes mine to 4 sec
lone zinc
Blizz hates you in particular it seems.
lusty grotto
tracking the wrong spell id
torn gust
Rip prot
lusty grotto
distant thicket
were at 2.5 sparks right?
lusty grotto
ye
lusty grotto
weekly quest
do delves
drops are catchup
weekly quest awards it
youre up to date, so no drop
do the delve weekly or wait until next week
for a drop
distant thicket
can i get from the archives weekly?
lusty grotto
read the guide
distant thicket
what guide
ruby musk
I go crit cause damage and things dying faster is the best defense
indigo hawk
Did we use the mass taunt when starting a pull or only when we start losing aggro during a fight ?
sharp gale
Did we use the mass taunt when starting a pull or only when we start losing aggr...
when you lose aggro
bc if you do every time on pull, it means you will not have it when you lose aggro
weary saddle
Did we use the mass taunt when starting a pull or only when we start losing aggr...
mass taunt is an o shit button
storm stone
hey yall whats the better m+ build right now
mountain thane or colossus
i took a break to start with Blood DK this season but i miss prot
storm stone
seems so i just D/ced
lusty grotto
oh
storm stone
cant log back in
lusty grotto
yeah i couldn't connect there for a moment
actually stuck on loading
ok it loaded
ok it dcd me again
storm stone
seems its time to hit the gym fellow prot bro
honestly if i was gonna find WoW gym bro's the warrior discord is actually probably the place to do it hahaha
lusty grotto
monster hunter time
valid spade
honestly if i was gonna find WoW gym bro's the warrior discord is actually proba...
I'm just coming back from the gym
Truly wild sat night
indigo hawk
mass taunt is an o shit button
Ok thank you !
small steeple
servers down for anytone else na?
fluid widget
oh cool its not just me
lusty grotto
read a few lines above
lean tangle
Is it just me or does Eye of Kezan feel bad to use? I feel like i do better with Tome and Pacemaker
lusty grotto
just you
jagged gust
You talking raid or m+
lusty grotto
its similar to anvil/signet from amirdrassil so its fine for the rest of us
lean tangle
For M+ i use Tome and pacemaker, for raid i use Tome and Eye of Kezan. But i switched to pacemaker and did more.
jagged gust
Makes sense
lean tangle
Idk maybe its just dependent on fight
chilly brook
This DDOS shit is getting old
jagged gust
Gear as well, what do sims tell you?
lusty grotto
def a stat issue
upbeat lake
For M+ i use Tome and pacemaker, for raid i use Tome and Eye of Kezan. But i swi...
depending on what level of raiding you do, you could finish a kill without the eye stacking fully
jagged gust
Or be in a massive Crit deficit
fluid widget
in terms of minmax, when is thunderous roar > spear? I've been using spear for raid and TR for m+, but legit want to understand when each is better
chilly brook
in terms of minmax, when is thunderous roar > spear? I've been using spear for r...
spear is more dam almost always
lusty grotto
spear is technically better for lower target count
chilly brook
it's just worse to play
lusty grotto
but troar is better for threat etc
chilly brook
start of pulls go way smoother with roar
lusty grotto
fluid widget
cool i'll just keep doing the same shenanigans
chilly brook
I tried messing with spear and basically went back to roar almost instantly
sharp gale
the value of spear decrease if you don't hit all your targets yes
storm stone
I tried messing with spear and basically went back to roar almost instantly
i picked up warrior for the first time last season and only played spear. whats the difference
chilly brook
even in Mechagon where spear is a better choice due to being low target counts and more single target I just don't find it worth it because of the first massive pull
chilly brook
i picked up warrior for the first time last season and only played spear. whats ...
we played Thane
lean tangle
For Heroic One Arm Bandit can you drop the puddles on top of each other? My guild is convinced to give it a try next time even though i keep telling them no guide says to stack them
chilly brook
which is incredibly bursty in comparison to colo
fluid widget
raid its not too bad to use spear due to model size
sharp gale
and bc it is mostly ST
dense remnant
For Heroic One Arm Bandit can you drop the puddles on top of each other? My guil...
Before you could, now they slide in to random direction if you drop them on top of old ones
chilly brook
When your TClap hits like a truck when you press Avatar you don't need snap threat
lean tangle
Before you could, now they slide in to random direction if you drop them on top ...
Good to know, thanks
chilly brook
For Heroic One Arm Bandit can you drop the puddles on top of each other? My guil...
or you could hit spell reflect before the puddle drops and then it just disappears
🙂
lean tangle
Whatt
jagged gust
I miss triple tc/tb openers, snap aggro on 5 packs easily
chilly brook
yeah they were doing it in RWF lol
sharp gale
For Heroic One Arm Bandit can you drop the puddles on top of each other? My guil...
just drop them just in the corner right and shit all over entry floor
winged brook
is it worth crafting a main hand? or should I just keep spamming dungeons till I get a decent replacement for this
lean tangle
I'll have to give the spell reflect thing a try on one armed bandit
chilly brook
sharp gale
For Heroic One Arm Bandit can you drop the puddles on top of each other? My guil...
where we drop them
lean tangle
where we drop them
That's how we do it too, but i just jump to the corner and slowly stutter step around the edges
fluid widget
so out of curiosity, wowhead recommends MT for the pure ST with execute priority fights, but I'm still seeing colossus for lorrgs for the top logs of one-armed bandit/mug'zee. Is this just due to convenience or is it so close that it isnt worth swapping
lusty grotto
lorrgs
it depends
youre very likely not gonna be needed to revenge adds
but if you are, then execute colossus might be worth
lusty grotto
people are just playing Colossus for everything cause they dont know how big execute spam is with Thane's rage gen
sharp gale
yeah basically those fights are not ST, but it matter only if you want to log
candid yacht
where we drop them
i have searched google for hours trying to find these pictures of room layouts to draw stuff on for my guild lmfao where did you find this !!??
fluid widget
hmm interesting
lusty grotto
and/or arent swapping from fight to fight
sharp gale
i have searched google for hours trying to find these pictures of room layouts t...
raidplan, must use to prepare fights
wicked pollen
and/or arent swapping from fight to fight
am i wrong in saying what i said though
fluid widget
I imagine thane with juggernaut would be parsing for sure
lusty grotto
am i wrong in saying what i said though
not entirely true
wicked pollen
how so
candid yacht
raidplan, must use to prepare fights
lusty grotto
thane will parse higher if logs dont take into consideration adds
on execute builds
period
sharp gale
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
you get the general idea even if you don't speak french i think
lusty grotto
if there's a lot of colossus logs its cause they just stayed colossus following RWF
just general ignorance
this is raid specific, for you lurkers
sharp gale
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
https://raidplan.io/plan/-BgE8BuNwME3j_uR
for first boss in myth if you are curious
candid yacht
you get the general idea even if you don't speak french i think
oh yea youre the man! i was legit over here drawing pictures, or photoshopping guides to show people things LMFAO
sharp gale
if you try to explain something to others, it can be usefull to stream discord and draw on raidplan or paint something
candid yacht
facts!
jagged gust
you get the general idea even if you don't speak french i think
"Une personne par soak et 1 min de debuff avant de resoak"
This is the least french french phrase I have ever read
It's like english and french decided to have a handshake agreement
valid spade
Would you stay the same gear for MT?
cosmic harness
I’m pugging a few 10s with my warrior and I feel a little weak sometimes (maybe it’s because it’s just 645 ilvl) but the thing is, going with colossus will make it worse and should I stay with MT until I get better gear?
toxic pewter
quickj wat is best first pull priory +11
can i pull both knight groups
is that ok
untold minnow
guys
do you have weakaura for ironbark like pi me?
i wis healer bark he get notif
frosty mango
can i pull both knight groups
Yes if you have a capable healer but disc priest helps a lot w barrier