protection

[long bronze]

warrior brain small, warrior only need to see if shield block up and enough rage for revenge

[lusty grotto]

nah

[knotty mantle]

What is the point of collosus prot having a knockup on shockwave? Is it a flavor thing? Does the knockup also work if the target is stun DR'd?

[frosty mango]

I used the cell list to snake all the cast names/spellids to to create my own weakauras

[dense remnant]

feel free to disagree, but what i do has helped me and our guild a TON on prog

[long bronze]

it's handy for the DFC knockbacks

[dense remnant]

and helps me when things dont change to weird positions

[lusty grotto]

are you CE?

[knotty mantle]

Ohhh I didn't consider that. Good idea. Thank you!

[solid sun]

Are you canceling the knock back by timing the knock up?

[long bronze]

yep

[dense remnant]

yes?dont know how thats relevant tho

[long bronze]

shockwave um right when the knock goes off and they don't go anywhere

[jade tartan]

Is their any pov of the soaking/3rd tank on Rik?

[solid sun]

Oh you clever rascal

[lusty grotto]

and you said "grid2" instead of vuhdo

hmm

[dense remnant]

huh?

[lusty grotto]

here

[dense remnant]

yes?

i use grid2

[dusky canopy]

You guys are funny

[lusty grotto]

wild

[dense remnant]

what?

[dusky canopy]

I barely watch my own health bar

[dense remnant]

im really confused as to what youre getting at?

[dusky canopy]

Let alone give a shit about the healers

[solid sun]

Idk why we are arguing about party/raid frames

[dusky canopy]

[dense remnant]

im just trying to understand where nimchip is coming from

[lusty grotto]

idk why a tank would have vuhdo/cell its just that

[dense remnant]

is he trying to say that i cant possibly be CE cos i use grid2, or something equally as wild?

[lusty grotto]

unless youre a prot paladin for some reason, but even then i dont use it

[solid sun]

I don’t use elvui

Can I be CE

[lusty grotto]

of course

[solid sun]

Hella sick I’m signing up todayyyyyy

[dense remnant]

here, have a look at what my UI looked like on ansurek, actually wait, lemme find one of my feral

you'll love that

[long bronze]

holy smokes is that viewport

[gentle gate]

Raidframe thats best for tracking tankbusters? Using base UI rn

[dense remnant]

indeed, its so nice

[lusty grotto]

gross

[long bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[solid sun]

What’s viewport

[dense remnant]

here's a nice one

[jade tartan]

Anyone has a pov on what to do on rik as 3rd tank

[solid sun]

Don’t have three tanks

[lusty grotto]

click the coils

also dont be 3rd tank

cause prot warrior hurts there

as coil tank

[jade tartan]

My guild wants to 3 tank it

[lusty grotto]

put some other class there

[dense remnant]

the green box is what i would see without the viewport addon, so basically it just zooms you out a bit more, and lets you put shit on the bottom so that it doesnt block anything on the floor

just makes it letterbox a bit more

[lusty grotto]

fuck its ugly

no thanks

[dense remnant]

thank you

[neon elk]

how exactly does that work? ive seen some CCs prevent it while others dont

[dense remnant]

its not made for aesthetic purposes ^^

[gentle gate]

Yuh I'm 654 and even heroic you get melted as prot warrior, mythic would 100% extradite that extremely

[solid sun]

How many of us rock base UI party frames

[long bronze]

knock ups cancel knockbacks, simple as

[neon elk]

okej, ive seen even frost nova works there , but regular stun still gets them knocked tho

[jade tartan]

Ok thanks for advice

[long bronze]

yeah stun isn't a location cc

[neon elk]

so its like movement imparing only ?

[long bronze]

root is

[jagged pier]

Eh? He hits for nothing on heroic

[neon elk]

och so it works like that, thanks

[solid sun]

Does he hit for nothing when you’re powerful like you or just in general

[dense remnant]

sonic dmg is just like bleed dmg, correct? its physical but cant be reduced by armor or blocked?

[long bronze]

like think if you're a dk, and somebody roots a mob you're trying to grip it cancels the grip, same idea

[gentle gate]

For heroic I needed help with some of the coils, when we went to DK 3rd tanking it was ezpz

[jagged pier]

He didnt hurt week one

[long bronze]

sonic damage is for the next ranged warrior spec

[solid sun]

I’m only 1/8H so I wouldn’t know

[long bronze]

where we shout at enemies

[lusty grotto]

coil 3rd tanking hurts

the boss doesnt

the whole 3rd tank thing does

cause its a stacking dot

and you arent hitting anything while doing it

[strong blaze]

What % haste are we aiming for this patch? and what % does it begin to get DR?

[lusty grotto]

we're not 3rd coil tank material

send a VDH or a BDK

[lusty grotto]

youre not gonna get to it

[solid sun]

Does the third tank just touch coils the whole time

[lusty grotto]

so dont worry about it

yes

[solid sun]

That sounds extra boring

[lusty grotto]

it is

its a dogshit strat but it works for some guilds

[violet ginkgo]

boring is da way sometimes

I think I still remember the Ovi'nax also got 3rd tank right? exclusive to grab add's aggro while the 2 tanks swapping boss.

[jade hazel]

Can I just like

Give y’all mad respect

[long bronze]

no

[jade hazel]

Holy shit protection has so many fucking buttons to press

[long bronze]

respect is now allowed in the warrior discord

not*

[strong blaze]

Currently running at like 38-40% haste+ with ITF procced, and also running reverb radio

cant help but feel its just way too much

[lusty grotto]

no

its not

cause % doesnt matter for us

[violet ginkgo]

there is nothing too much for haste.

[lusty grotto]

rating does, since its the only thing that DRs

[peak iron]

speaking of trinket talk earlier, is cinderbrew stein worth using? say a 658 stein vs a 639 sacbrood?

[long bronze]

haste value for dps will drop off if you over stack it though

[vale escarp]

DR Starts at 30%

[mighty valley]

you're likely hitting the first DR breakpoint but that just reduces the value by 10%

and it's still the best defensive stat after that

[lusty grotto]

-30% penalty is around 33000 rating

so 33k to 39,600

good luck

26400 to 33k is around where you want to stop

which is the 2nd softcap

with a -20% penalty

[long bronze]

I mean you stop when your sim says no more

[lusty grotto]

yup

[violet ginkgo]

but yeah I don't think we will get 33k rating at s2, that is probably for s3/4 if they decide to do 4

[lusty grotto]

this is incorrect see below

[long bronze]

I'm at ~17k haste, would like a little more for SB uptime but it's currently my lowest per point stat, not by much, but it is (in my current gear)

[lusty grotto]

well technically it is correct, but thats the 1st softcap which we have always ignored

[mighty valley]

is this accurate? i didn't think each stat DR'd at different ratings levels

[lusty grotto]

but dont look at percent values

[mighty valley]

not that it super matters

[lusty grotto]

yes its accurate

for the most part, thats the maxroll one right?

[vale escarp]

It is correct. https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/stat-diminishing-returns

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

stop saying percents

ratings is what DRs

not percents

[solid sun]

I’ve been snagging any haste I can get but so many pieces are haste mastery

[long bronze]

mastery is good

nothing wrong with mastery

[vale escarp]

Ratings = % without any buffs

[solid sun]

I wanna be parrygodx v2.0

[cerulean tusk]

Nothing wrong with mastery
Crit block and ap matters

[solid sun]

Feed me crit

[long bronze]

my dps per point ranges from 19 to 18

so basically fuck all in difference

defensively all stats are good

just get enough haste for SB uptime with ITF then it doesn't really matter that much

[cerulean tusk]

Crit is the most fun one tho, big dam on screen

[long bronze]

slam that ILVL up

[solid sun]

Parrying some dot stacks from creepers via some more crit would feel so nice though

[smoky anvil]

It does feel nice.

[solid sun]

Only mobs currently dog walking me

[smoky anvil]

I’ve had my stacks shed on their own before.

Not a consistent thing, still almost shid myself on those mobs. The fact that they give such cheeks % is a crime.

[solid sun]

I wish you could put them to sleep

So they wouldn’t do the dot

[smoky anvil]

Any CC at all.

[long bronze]

tooltip says a "chance to apply"

meanwhile it's 100% chance

[smoky anvil]

Lmao facts

[strong blaze]

But this is my main thought, not sure on what the ideal haste% you want for ITF, so that you can look at stacking other stats

[lusty grotto]

17k+

for ITF

18k to be more precise

[unborn island]

32k for vibes.

[lusty grotto]

again see how im not using percents, important because we have so many lurkers here that talent ITF and go OHHH I HAVE 420% HASTE and dont consider it a buff when it is

[solid sun]

What

[strong blaze]

Currently 14k so good to know I can stack some more, messing around with rings and shit atm

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

Do you mean they see they have 25% haste while they have the ITF buff

[cerulean tusk]

Give me 100% crit, or give me death

[lusty grotto]

just giving a random number

there, i changed it to 65%

[solid sun]

I’m just trying to understand the difference in using percentages and rating

[cerulean tusk]

Cheeky edit to save your point, Nim

[lusty grotto]

the last edit is better

[long bronze]

talents/buffs tend to give you an additional % haste, which doesn't trigger stat point DR

is the principle difference

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[solid sun]

Ooooo interesting

[lusty grotto]

thats why when you lust you still feel the haste

because its percentage based

[long bronze]

if you went by points, lust would be like what, 22000 haste without DR?

a fuck load, regardless

I guess it's 30% right, so like 17k

[lusty grotto]

hard to say

660 rating per 1 point of percent

[cerulean tusk]

Lust is multiplicative, no? So it mods your rated haste as well or that a lie

[lusty grotto]

19,800 just about

but yeah youre right funky

[long bronze]

hey if you take the average I was close

[cerulean tusk]

Just play BDK, max haste with Queens, and dab dab dab on the top of the meters

[solid sun]

Nim do you use default party frames

[long bronze]

san'layn is cooked, I played it on ansurek/council/kyveza prog

I was so done with dnd camping

[cerulean tusk]

you a tank, just don't move

[long bronze]

lol

I'd prefer to kill the boss

[solid sun]

Not moving on queen is a power move

[long bronze]

or kyveza

or council

or basically any boss

[solid sun]

Sometimes I don’t hide on Kujo

[long bronze]

I just safespot him

[solid sun]

Feels like a power move

[lusty grotto]

no i use elvui

but base ui is pretty solid

moreso next patch

[solid sun]

Idk how to safespot him. I remember back in the day I knew how to position him where you were hiding but still able to hit him

Idk if that’s gone or I just forgot how to do it

[long bronze]

just bring him to a corner then slide up the side of the box

[broken cove]

in m+, do we even need to press thunder clap unless we literally have nothing else? like is the rend worth over a global of revenge

[lusty grotto]

yeah just make sure his circle ground targetting thing is in the corner like Trrriple said

yes its worth and it gives you rage so you should be pressing it for both and when SS is on CD

[long bronze]

it also applies rend

[broken cove]

thats what i said

"is the rend worth"

[lusty grotto]

yes

its worth

[broken cove]

like rage gen is not an issue in packs imo

[lusty grotto]

especially with troar

[solid sun]

I feel like rage gen can be an issue if you overspend on revenge

[lusty grotto]

it'll be an issue when youre IPing

if youre taking 0 damage then sure

and rend might not be worth if its a low ass key that shit doesnt last

[long bronze]

overspend on revenge
Impossible

[lusty grotto]

but thats too much of nuance that we probably dont look into

[broken cove]

i just feel useless pressing thunder clap tbh

over revenge

[long bronze]

tc is also our best wide pickup ability

[lusty grotto]

with crackling

and slowies

[long bronze]

yeh

at the end of the day if you never have a free global to press TC you're asleep

[solid sun]

And if you’re asleep you def don’t have rage

So

Watch yourself

[long bronze]

a 2 minute 10 target sim presses tc 22 times

[solid sun]

Does that mean if we had a 1 minute 20 target sim we should also hit tc 22 times

I’m jk

I crack myself up

[long bronze]

I assume 11, but raidbots goes to 10 targets

[solid sun]

I was just being funny

My b my b

[solid sun]

What’s happening next patch

[lusty grotto]

cooldown tracking

[solid sun]

Oh

Do you really think that’d take over WA suites

[lusty grotto]

doubtful but its a good step in the right direction

[solid sun]

I mean you didn’t say that but I’m just curious. I saw that and felt like it didn’t matter a ton

[frosty holly]

Odd question is Swigs bugged? 3 times now that i fight him shield slam resets 100% endlessly

[lusty grotto]

just tracking basic ability CDs and Shield block durations is just about what you need to remove an entire warrior WA suite tbh

just needs outburst/tier management

[lusty grotto]

no idea tbh

i have no idea what that mob is lol

[frosty holly]

One of the undermine rares spawns very close to the hotel

[undone beacon]

Anyone use or have thoughts on Anodized Deflectors out of Mechagon? I'm assuming that their lack of stats immediately kills their use, but the extra defensive value might be nice?

[sharp gale]

And it is annoying to macro

[undone beacon]

Can I not just macro it into anything? Stick it on IP and call it a day

[sharp gale]

I tried it on dk, I couldn’t press the other spell when bracers were on cd

[undone beacon]

hm. I'll mess with it but our BDK said he just macro'd his into death strike haha

[jagged pier]

stats are better

than that effect

[pallid quiver]

ur better

gottem

[undone beacon]

all my gear better have cantrips or I will trip

[sharp gale]

it was with death and decay for me, it was funny to panick search the spell in spell book

[undone beacon]

pfft, brtual

[long bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/slay-gif-5228535

[undone beacon]

Question when simming with the anodized deflectors, is it using the on-use on cd?

[toxic pewter]

just killed underpin ?? feelsgoodman

[undone beacon]

that guy??...stinks

[polar atlas]

Cant find any info on wowhead

[solid sun]

I haven’t even touched delves this season

Was he more or less fun than the last delve boss

[sand condor]

same

[weak delta]

New m+ tank this season, I'm normally an arms enjoyer, tanking baby keys 6,7,8 range , the creeper adds in dfc do we leap away and kite when the stacks get too high?

[pallid quiver]

Yep

Also, remember to just keep them away from corpses in general

They eat them for a stacking damage dealt buff

You can also simply parry the applications like a legend

but realistically, that's not gonna actually help

[weak delta]

Ok thanks, i knew about the stacking buff on the corpses but the dot was trucking last night

[undone beacon]

Spell Block and Spell Reflect help as well for magic mitigation

[sharp gale]

You can leap on a candle

[heavy sparrow]

And charge back or intervene yourself back

[sharp gale]

I would wait the stack to fell but yeah that is the move

[weak delta]

Ok cool thanks for the tip

[sharp gale]

It can helps to be able to health pot or last stand

[undone beacon]

Anodized Deflectors.... give parry... to parry... the dot... HUGE

I'm now Anodized Deflectors biggest fan

[sharp gale]

[torn gulch]

[undone beacon]

Yeah... i activate my ANODIZED DEFLECTORS and uhh parry that opinion

[torn gulch]

[lusty grotto]

meh

[novel temple]

I think you can spell reflect a stack and get it to drop @weak delta

[pallid quiver]

You're going to need more than a single spell reflect to get it to drop

You'd need some parry RNG on top

[sharp gale]

To parry rng drop the stack, you need to spell reflect at 2 sec left (and maybe move a little back)

Wait the rng to happen on the first seconds is (to me) better

[undone beacon]

simply kill the corridor creepers...... easy game

[pallid quiver]

I'm pretty sure we decided the answer was to get an arms warrior to tank it

[weak delta]

Thanks for all the tips everyone, in a 7 last night and 2 got pulled in the pack before the last boss and that was nasty with 2 of them

[waxen frigate]

Parry this you fucking casual 🔫

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/deflect-deflecting-deflection-pelham123-pelham-gif-24944473

[winged pawn]

what does ST stand for? I can't find it anywhere

[lusty grotto]

super tough

[winged pawn]

tyty

[undone beacon]

Single Target

[winged pawn]

ohh tyty

[lusty grotto]

oh i thought you were memeing

since you put the emoji there lol

my bad yeah Pash is correct

[winged pawn]

LOL yeah misuse of clueless on my end

[lusty grotto]

actually correct use, its just we use it for a lot of memeing around here lol

[pallid quiver]

It stands for Super Turbo, the best iteration of Street Fighter 2, and clearly the best Street Fighter ever, with no flaws.
I had to meme since it was already answered

[long bronze]

[pallid quiver]

niiiiiim, help me find a shield to use for transmog

[long bronze]

there are 4 options

the 4 colors of the artifact deathwing appearance

[pallid quiver]

it's funny, because i want to use those

but they're too big

[lusty grotto]

only mage tower appearance allowed

but the motherload one looks pretty swag

[pallid quiver]

They actually end up looking like ass on tauren because the textures get very visibly stretched

also they're really big

[long bronze]

shield? too big? 🤔

if there was a shield the size of my screen I'd equip it

[pallid quiver]

i'm already big as a tauren; some big things actually look bad as a result because they get stretched

I can see pixels on some larger shields

[long bronze]

it's either comically large shield or comically small shield

the mage tower shield is cool but I've not found too many mogs it goes that well with

plus the color options are kinda ass

[pallid quiver]

The flail was fun to use for a while, though

[long bronze]

I feel like it should work with mythic BFD plate but it doesn't

yeah

[rigid yew]

Probably asked a million times. Coming back after a decent break. Is this a good setup?

[long bronze]

then they added a bunch of flails and it's no longer unique (ouside of pally mage tower)

[rigid yew]

ahhh, thanks a bunch

[long bronze]

I just wish there were more longer handled maces or axes

they are all like 1 inch long

I want to be able to reach out and bonk a mfer

[pallid quiver]

I've been a mad enjoyer of the basket hilts they have sometimes

this sword is peak

[long bronze]

I'm a fan of this mace https://www.wowhead.com/item=139158/battle-mace-of-the-niskaran-guard#modelviewer

bonk

[neon elk]

Damn that one is nice, but its a random low % from rare right ?

[sharp gale]

I like those wep (not only this color)

[gentle gate]

fucking finally 16 priories

[long bronze]

I feel you it took me 18

[smoky anvil]

I can’t stand that dungeon. It’s city of threads for me. Avoid if you can, if you need something you get it when you get it.

[long bronze]

I just don't want to farm TOP for haste/crit ring

gonna be ass

[rancid tiger]

Where haste/ crit neck

Imma i be craftin

[gentle gate]

I love theater of pain but twice in a row my monk dps duo has got the ring to drop but cant trade it bc she doen't want to spend crests on rings

[long bronze]

rik reverb drops the haste/crit neck

[smoky anvil]

I fuckin love top

[unborn island]

Cinderbrew

[lusty grotto]

cinderbrew is haste mastery

[gentle gate]

cinder is haste mastery right?

[unborn island]

Oh, you're right.

[lusty grotto]

but big haste, so its good

[unborn island]

Know if it is possible to skip the last guy in the warrior wing? Last time I fought him he just filled the area with swords, and I had to kite him back over the bridge

[lusty grotto]

with lock portal yes

you have to make up count by pulling the 2 solo gas fatties though

the captains there are worth a lot so skipping one takes a lot

[long bronze]

just pull the sides on one of the big platforms

[unborn island]

Does that make up for the fatties?

[lusty grotto]

depends

i usually go right/right

so i have to get count by pulling them both if i plan on skipping that last captain

and then front pack

you can do the sidepacks

like he mentioned

but if you have a fire mage youre likely to pull them anyway

cause, who knows why ignite bounces all the way to the sides

[neon elk]

Is right right more efective ? I usualy go left left cuz i dont trust pugs with kicks

[lusty grotto]

right right is... 2 skelly casters, ele/skelly/mage, big bonestormguy/skelly/mage, frontal kb summoner/skelly/mage

iirc

im probably missing one platform

bonestorm guy is easy count

[neon elk]

You have 2, casters which oneshots every pull there

[lusty grotto]

guy does nothing

[long token]

Checked the pins but didn't see anything, do we have hard/soft caps we are going for unbuffed substats

[neon elk]

Big guy isnt issue, small ones are, at least in my pugs , every cast deletes someone

[lusty grotto]

you can just purge skeleton guys

and they get deleted

so its really just one kick, volleys, and if the skeleton dude hasnt been killed 1 or 2 kicks or stops

[lusty grotto]

not my problem

and it isnt yours

[neon elk]

Yea purge helps there i guess

[lusty grotto]

either they deal with it or they dont time, thats on them

[neon elk]

But its also my wasted time, but yea ill prolly start going right with purges

[jagged gust]

Man I got absolutely dominated by a restosham on interrupts last night

You think you're playing well enough until someone strolls along and casually doubles your kicks

[long bronze]

range kick with melee kick cd kinda goated

I'd pay good money for a couple extra yards on pummel

[lusty grotto]

or give back gag order

[jagged gust]

thematically running in to a bunch of aoe to get a kick on a mob your other dps cant touch is pretty on point for a warrior

but yeah I'd give up RP in a second for a ranged kick lol

[small steeple]

RP?

[jagged gust]

roleplay

Was gag order a silence?

[lusty grotto]

yes

attached to heroic throw

[jagged gust]

bruh

[lusty grotto]

we've been saying it for a while

bring back gag order, reflective plating, warbringer

or was it siegebreaker, i cant fucking rememebr

the one that stunned off DR on charges/intervenes

[jagged gust]

looks like wb

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah

[jagged gust]

you means the frontal on charge

[lusty grotto]

yeah it was off DR

[floral bronze]

as someone who didnt play warrior in legion, what do i have to do to get the hidden prot artifact apperance now? ive been to the cage multiple times and never saw any clickable item. Do i need some pre requisites for it to appear? google didnt spit out anything useful

[lusty grotto]

use the weak aura

[jagged gust]

I played fury/surv hunter back in legion, always wondered if any of the skins were worth farming for

[lusty grotto]

the wowhead guide should still work

err not the weakaura, the command

just go in daily, paste the command in

[pallid quiver]

though there's probably a weakaura that does it auto for you

[lusty grotto]

false? come back tomorrow

[floral bronze]

do i need to unlock the artifact on this specific warrior char first?

[lusty grotto]

no idea, but i'd assume so

[floral bronze]

[lusty grotto]

i mean its an "artifact" appearance

[toxic pewter]

I remember I did it by making class trial warriors on various servers or something till I found one with it

There’s guides to do it out there

Was a long time ago so I forget specifics what I did

[frigid plume]

no, i unlocked it on a trial warrior like 2 weeks ago and got the artifact on that character after

[floral bronze]

oh shiet okay nice then i will just keep on checking this god forsaken cave ty mate

any speedy way to get there? so far ive been using some old m+ legion teleport and flying there

[frigid plume]

if you make a trial highmountain tauren there is a teleport to highmountain in orgrimmar for them

[floral bronze]

oh crap thats a good idea

ty guys ill make 1500 highmountain tauren warriors and just place em infront of the cave

[pallid quiver]

just be lucky and get all the hidden artifacts like first possible try like me smh

Shame I don't use the prot one at all

[wild chasm]

Is the next to last pack in Workshop skippable with just a mind soothe?

[lusty grotto]

no

priests can

you cant

you can invis or get rescued

well you can get rescued if youre a dps i mean

if youre a tank just invis past with soothe

or ring of peace + soothe

[jagged gust]

how do you handle the minibosses that drop multiple ravager effects

[lusty grotto]

have your group stack

and move as a group

so that the ravagers all land together

good luck in pugs 🙂

[jagged gust]

easier said than done >.> even with calling it out I'll have some caster standing by the door

can you kite them out of the room? I don't know if they have a reset leash

[lusty grotto]

well thats not your problem then

you can kite pretty far sure

not sure how far

ive only dragged it to boss room and/or bridge

[jagged gust]

Yeah, first one went abysmally in my 10 so we just lock skipped the 2nd that spawned

It's one of those nervous spots for tanking for me, I got whammied outside of the first meadery boss room and reset at 4% so now I'm double checking all the dungeons for possible reset issues

[vocal flame]

Can’t you stand on the stairs?

[jagged gust]

oh like the academy mobs

[lusty grotto]

i thought that didn't work anymore

[vocal flame]

It lets you go on the stairs it’s not blocked

[lusty grotto]

thats not what i meant

you still get hit

[vocal flame]

I’ll have to check I don’t think I did. Maybe I’ll run one when I get home

[gloomy gorge]

On a lot of high parse kills I see a lot of people going seaforium over tome, is there any reason? just the being easier to use?

[lusty grotto]

uninformed probably

[gloomy gorge]

ah ok, this trinket seems insane, and pacemaker is good but still

[vocal flame]

Think I’m on 11 or so runs so maybe I’ll get lucky soon.

[vital vale]

ugh, back to mountain thane. colossus was so fun but im starting to feel really rage starved with colossus against bosses in higher keys

such a shame

[golden sapphire]

Rage starvation seems to be an issue for me as well, but I believe it to be attributed to needing a more gear+stats as well as perfecting cD usage

[lusty grotto]

rage starvation is 100% a skill issue

nothing else

[golden sapphire]

There we have it Fawx. We’re scrubs let’s do better then. Thanks Nim for solving all our problems

[lusty grotto]

you're welcome

[vital vale]

it is a skill issue

if i was skillier i wouldnt be pressing the damn buttons anymore

there

infinite rage hack

just dont press ignore pain or revenge

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[vital vale]

maybe youre right idk

but as colossus against ST where i take lots of magic damage

and getting unlucky with shield slam resets

then i end up just sitting there having to waste all shield walls because i cant keep ignore pain up

i dont understand how it could possibly be a skill issue to be rage starved when i press revenge 0 times unless its free

[halcyon idol]

The protection faq weakauras link is broken

[lusty grotto]

what fight is this

do you have logs?

[vital vale]

no logs

[lusty grotto]

did you know

[vital vale]

2nd boss priory for example

[lusty grotto]

that you have mitigation

in the form of SR

in the form of demo

in the form of punish

in the form of walls, which you have included

in the form of spell block

[vital vale]

i do happen to know that yes

[lusty grotto]

and yet you mention IP

instead of all of those

[vital vale]

because IP costs rage?

[lusty grotto]

as if IP will be the end-all-be-all mitigation for 2nd priory boss

[vital vale]

whyd you assume im not using those abilities

[lusty grotto]

idk man

i can assume

you have no logs

i have no idea what kind of scenario we're discussing

so i have to assume

[vital vale]

do i need logs a receipt and a credit card to come and complain a little bit here

i didnt ask for help anyway, if i did then you can tell me bring the logs

[lusty grotto]

well no you didnt

so therefore

skill issue

have a good one 👋

[vital vale]

thank you for the wisdom

[golden sapphire]

I feel like we’re all a little tense because we feel a Demolish nerf coming.

[vital vale]

thankfully there were 0 warriors in the world first kill

we are spared the impending ire

[lusty grotto]

lol

[sick sentinel]

we send Demolish on cd correct or wait for 10 stacks?

[lusty grotto]

youll likely be at 10 stacks with correct play

only the opener with be with less than

[sick sentinel]

k ty

i see it now in the guide

[lusty grotto]

👍

[remote anchor]

any of you did 3rd tank on rik reverb as prot?

trying to find out how to survive this shit

[lusty grotto]

dont do it as prot

you'll suffer

put a bdk there

or a vdh

[remote anchor]

bear is best i know

[lusty grotto]

sure

[solar gorge]

bdk or vdh are equally as bad no?

[remote anchor]

bdk is really bad

[solar gorge]

pala should be good

[lusty grotto]

our resident BDKs dont seem to think so

[solar gorge]

maybe he just wants to do the important stuff

[remote anchor]

how does he live it without hitting the boss?

[lusty grotto]

as long as they are controlled, just run to the boss and DS

easier to heal in 1 hit than us

if i had to guess

#protection message

but yeah bear probably has the easier time

[solar gorge]

i mean that was heroic, you wouldnt need any tank to do it on heroic

[lusty grotto]

right

you didnt specify difficulty

sorry, Ark didn't specify

[solar gorge]

i didnt even ask 😄

ye

[lusty grotto]

i do agree though

heroic is easy enough to do, 3rd tanking is just whatever

boss dies slower

[remote anchor]

yea i mean mythic

[lusty grotto]

yeah well

[solar gorge]

yeah and its probably very boring once you know where to go

[lusty grotto]

no bueno as prot

warrior better tanking boss 🙂

[solar gorge]

well but i was coming here to ask how to deal with the 1st boss priory on a 13 or 14, ive tanked him on 12 but cant do it on 13 if the healer doesnt look chat and doesnt give me external when i call it

[lusty grotto]

lol

[remote anchor]

dont pug

[lusty grotto]

well you have 2 walls, 1 mini wall, dwarf

stack punish and demo

rng walls

but yea

[solar gorge]

yea im getting dry after all those

[lusty grotto]

hmm

tome on shield mode?

[solar gorge]

dont have tome yet

[lusty grotto]

well tome wont help cause its a bleed anyway

[solar gorge]

i can either rock floodgate + priory dps one or floodgate and mister lock and stalk, which both wont help

[austere marsh]

is 3 tank strat on Rik worth it?

[solar gorge]

can i crit block it and stack mastery or does that not work?

[lusty grotto]

no

[solar gorge]

so its either externals or get a evoker to dispell me i guess

[winged pawn]

whats a logical secondary spec, arms or fury?

[austere marsh]

arms better stats

[winged pawn]

okok ty

[echo canyon]

is it worth to keep the old 4p or i go for higher ilvl items?

[lusty grotto]

sim, but you keep 2pc

but sim

[naive panther]

I have all heroic but still telling me to keep old tier 4 pc. No new tier yet

[echo canyon]

sim is only dps

[lusty grotto]

so?

s1 tier has garbage def

[sharp olive]

No way,
I feel
Spell reflect tech back
Strat buff (revert inc)

[small steeple]

spell reflect feels so good rn. Last boss of a priory 10, asked the pugs to not kick the holy smite lol

[sharp olive]

Yeah, but for the other bosses /mobs that they removed

[small steeple]

What do you mean?

[sharp olive]

The round of ptr, they changed and remove a fair amount of abilities (spells) that could be spell reflected,

Threate of pain - last boss the sytches ability for example

[small steeple]

Ah

[sharp olive]

Also 4 set will feed into this but overall I think there's still some rage starving occurring,

Single target mostly

[sharp gale]

nice uptime (tome sword / first boss mythic)

[novel pike]

https://tenor.com/view/aunty-donna-broden-kelly-zachary-ruane-mark-bonanno-1999-gif-5261008582624236324

[smoky anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494561

[sudden lynx]

Anyone know the best way to sim prot?

Is dungeon slice fine if I wanna sim for aoe? i.e. m+

Checked the faq but didnt see anything there

[lusty grotto]

no

5t patchwerk

1 min or 1.5 mins

either works

APL is not optimized for Dslice

it works but... can be inconsistent

[sudden lynx]

ty ty

[tacit falcon]

not sure if it's because I'm 629, or just what to expect - but in Motherload, I got CRUNCHED hard a few times on seting packs up. Is that spiky-ness normal, or just a gear thing?

[sudden lynx]

Depends on key level, also obviously the damage intake when not having SB and IP up is gonna be much worse

Hit shield wall on pull and you'll probably be fine

[tacit falcon]

for sure, it felt like maybe 2s and I was at 35%

kk, that tracks just making sue, tyty

[lusty grotto]

watch your back hits

[smoky anvil]

Can’t show back. That’s how you make a fucky wucky and die.

[lusty grotto]

butt giving not allowed

[vocal flame]

followed Nim and just spammed revenge lol

[jagged gust]

just dont forget to TC on CD

[vocal flame]

yeah its in there

[lusty grotto]

thats a good breakdown

[vocal flame]

tried not to hit it as much getting out of the mountain muscle memory

[lusty grotto]

what dungeon

[vocal flame]

pirory

[lusty grotto]

[vocal flame]

farming trinket still

[lusty grotto]

i still dont have it

but i dont want to farm

[vocal flame]

maybe tomorrow 🙂

vault baby

[lusty grotto]

nah im opening as arms

[vocal flame]

dag

[lusty grotto]

until i get a myth weapon

[frail ibex]

Yo I just did the let me solo him achieve but I dont have the mount option? Why?

[neon elk]

Try rlg?

[frail ibex]

rlg?

tf does that mean

[toxic pewter]

trying to kill heroic gally and i keep ripping aggro off other tanks

and of course the 'can you stop dps' comment came

told them I would rather die

[cyan bronze]

tell them to stop being bad?

[toxic pewter]

why am I ripping aggro off a prot pala

hes not even using consecrate actually

i saw none on the ground

[cinder marsh]

hey the sheild dropped from rook hero track, and i got a 658 crafted should i switch it out?

[lusty grotto]

sounds like every start of the season ever

[toxic pewter]

dude I know every season its like this

and I wont lie demolish is only exascerbating it lmao

anytime I hit demolish I am like.. Please Lord

protect this raid

[cyan bronze]

just run double ravager talent

it’ll fix your threat problems

[jagged gust]

Can't he just refresh taunt on his side the first swap?

[toxic pewter]

a lot of issues going on

[jagged gust]

yeah sounds like a replace angle to me

[neon elk]

Relog

[hardy snow]

I've ripped aggro today when I was running for bombs

[toxic pewter]

yeah I will say something is weird with gally and aggro

[hardy snow]

Runing around and suddenly I got hit by frontal

[toxic pewter]

but still ripped on other bosses and crap

[hardy snow]

but according to logs other tank kept aggro

[toxic pewter]

very bad

[hardy snow]

also how does he reset stacks? I thought its after tankswap

[toxic pewter]

after taunting and he hits a new target yea

[lusty grotto]

i just did

a workshop

with a ret paladin that was NEVER in melee range of mobs

just ranged judgments and blades

LMAO

and i noticed at last boss

[tacit falcon]

yea, but like.. did it work?

[lusty grotto]

eh no

[jagged gust]

bro wanted to combine ret with bm for the ultimate class

[hardy snow]

but like here my cotank got him on 15s, yet no stacks reset till 29s, but I taunted back at 31s and he got hit

[tacit falcon]

cus imma go heroic throw spec lol

[lusty grotto]

do you know how much holy power he wastes doing that, hes not crusading striking

shit was wild

i was like "wait how come this paladin is dancing around far from the boss"

[toxic pewter]

interesting.. yeah this boss has major tank issues at least in phase 1 lol

[tacit falcon]

Oh yea, homie COOKED, but I gotta respect his RP

[bleak breach]

@hardy snow I had the same thing happen yesterday on Gally.

Out getting bombs, back to boss so doing nothing and bang pull threat somehow.

[bleak breach]

P1 seems to nearly be the group killer atm

[hardy snow]

have you noticed stacks issue as there #protection message ?

[small steeple]

So I was looking for interesting mog to start farming and some of the bfa and shadolands pplate stuff caught my eye. Are they able to be solo'd yet?

[hardy snow]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

i wonder if tomorrow is dispel affix or kill the one mob affix

[small steeple]

wasn't last week kill one mob?

or am i misremembering

[lusty grotto]

no it was cc orbs

[small steeple]

no last week was cc

yeah

[lusty grotto]

with giga haste

apparently its voidbound

so kill the emissary one

[small steeple]

Thats crit right?

[lusty grotto]

no

20% versa and 30% cdr

[small steeple]

or was it verse

[lusty grotto]

crit is dispel

[small steeple]

ah ok

[lusty grotto]

so week after

[jagged gust]

Nice, that's such a relaxing affix

this week has felt like herding cats

[hardy snow]

again CDs wont align with 1:30 trinket

[lusty grotto]

people fucking panic with it lmao

just eating one shots to get a stupid orb with like 2 hours to get them

at least it'll get better

[jagged gust]

good thing I only have 2min trinkets

[lusty grotto]

cause now people have seen it

[small steeple]

this right here tells a story

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

i think someone hasn't told him

[frosty holly]

Wonder how bad it went if he don't want a VDH. I tried it and at 634 it had no issues at all tanking a 10 didn't even have old or new set

[small steeple]

yeah vdh is comfy

[lusty grotto]

i mean both fotm rolls bring shitters

so...

hes basically still betting lol

[small steeple]

yeah

the irony is delicious

[cyan bronze]

did you guys know

[neon elk]

Do u guys go haste even after 19k for ferelycrafr or follow sims

[cyan bronze]

you can skip the blood guy right after momma on floodgate

just pop crate from soldier side

[lusty grotto]

follow sim, but thats nowhere near the cap

[cyan bronze]

[mortal cypress]

yep I know

[cyan bronze]

can also pull those soldiers on boss, if you want, feels efficient

[lusty grotto]

we ignore that first soft cap

[neon elk]

I know its not the cap but sims are telling me to ditch haste and go other stats but haste feels so good

[lusty grotto]

thats fine

[cinder marsh]

hey the sheild dropped from rook hero track, and i got a 658 crafted should i switch it out?

[neon elk]

So the answer is ? Xd do i still go haste for that smooth flow or follow sims after 19k ? Sorry but my brain isnt braining

[cyan bronze]

i would go haste personally

but you can do either

[fluid widget]

"Increased the maximum debuff stacks of Lingering Voltage to 99 (was 15) in Heroic and Mythic difficulty."
dobby is a free elf!

[pallid quiver]

@lusty grotto niiiim, let me brick your 10 or higher for a 4th 10 in my vault

[toxic pewter]

was in wrong lootspec for gally kill shield dropped of course i /roll 100 to see if i would of won and got a 90

shield would of been mine. i also won eye of kezan with leech and the 2h LOL

u guys think eye of kezan any good in m+ or wat

[lusty grotto]

it can fall off in m+

or so i've heard

[toxic pewter]

jeeze this think loses stacks mega fast

thats wild

[neon elk]

Friend got it on healer and it had realy bad value for him in m+

[toxic pewter]

yeah damn I should of sold this thing lol

many people asked if i was selling

I guess can use on mythic bosses though

[lusty grotto]

its bis for everyone for raid

including us

and basically all of our specs

[toxic pewter]

ya seems quite strong

I guess if I can keep the pulls chained in certain dungeons could be quite strong

[wide charm]

What do y'all consider to be the best m+ trinkets

[round cliff]

the ones u have

[wide charm]

639 sacbrood and a tome? o. O

[round cliff]

tome is unironically one of the best yes

[wide charm]

Well yea ha, but I'm curious what is the contenders for that second slot

[round cliff]

wowhead tells u

[wide charm]

Oh wow, how helpful

There is literally a discussion, a few posts up, about how eye of kezan is not in fact that great in m+, but it is in the top tier on wowhead. 🤔

[round cliff]

wowhead says this too, yes

eye of kezan is good for raid but not good for m+

wowhead says this

[wide charm]

Oh it is indeed filtered out, I thought it was still selected, whelp

[small steeple]

Pretty sure that is only if the raid encounter will be over 6 minutes

might change depending on spec/class

[wide charm]

It's probably house of cards or pacemaker it seems

[small steeple]

For m+, its tome, pacemaker, and house of cards

and bombsuit if you want/need a defensive trinket

man I love ToP as a prot warrior

take so much less damage

[formal elbow]

i cannot find a clue what to craft as prot? im doing only normal raid with him, some delves and little keys

any hints?^^

[small steeple]

shield

always shield

[formal elbow]

will it be better than the gally shield?

[small steeple]

the normal raid one? Depends on ilvl but if your crafting one i'm assuming it will be 675

[formal elbow]

na im not doing high m+

don t have many golden crests

[small steeple]

for shields, ilvl is basically all that matters

[formal elbow]

hm okay thanks

and for 2. item? i have only an old 1hand so far...maybe that with ascendence?

[lusty grotto]

doesn't have to have an embelish

but its up to you

[hushed harbor]

sorry if this has been answered, just a little unclear in keys. we dropping ravager when we get 4pc?

[turbid stump]

is signet of the priory pretty mid for us if we have tome and pacemaker?

[lusty grotto]

or indom, you want battering ram with 4pc

you can drop whichever you want for it

[lusty grotto]

its ok, just not the best

[toxic pewter]

They really needed to give eye of kezan an old warriors soul or anvil treatment when out of combat. This thing sucks ass to use

I think I hate this trinket

[lusty grotto]

dont hate, appreciate 😉

[toxic pewter]

Good point I guess I’m looking at it the wrong way

[neon elk]

Hey, at least we have some viable dungeon options

[spring summit]

Should i Craft max Ilvl shield over a normal gallywix shield?

[cyan bronze]

just turnip that ho

[toxic pewter]

Lol wat that even mean

[pallid quiver]

over normal, by a lot

[cyan bronze]

turnip toy

[pallid quiver]

Shield's your only source of block value from gear, pretty much our best defensive stat

[cyan bronze]

let’s you stay in combat between pulls

it’s what we used to do for signet

[toxic pewter]

can I use that in m+

[cyan bronze]

yes it’s just jank to do as tank sometimes

[toxic pewter]

The turnip damage dummy?

[cyan bronze]

yes

[wide charm]

I did ascendence on my 1h craft, I don't really see the downside

[cyan bronze]

u can just leave a dot on it

gives u some wiggle room

[toxic pewter]

Interesting good point

I need to break out all the toys

[cyan bronze]

or keep heroic throwing it

[jagged gust]

I've decided the answer to priory is go left and fuck the healer

firestorm mini boss is beyond bologna in pugs

[toxic pewter]

I’ve always gone left and always will

[potent anvil]

Prot owns

[toxic pewter]

Lol

What trinkets u use

We def getting nerfed

[potent anvil]

665 priory and 678 seaforium

[toxic pewter]

Damn nice

U must got giga crit

[potent anvil]

Don't have 4p yet, either

[toxic pewter]

Wow

Badass

[runic kraken]

Mountain thane vs colossus? MT feels better but feel like I’m missing out on dps

[potent anvil]

Both viable imo. Colossus does more damage and just as tanky I feel like.

Oh, I also am still using a 636 weapon. Need to farm for a hero track weapon

[hushed harbor]

ty ty. i like the bigger ram

[smoky anvil]

having played MT last season, colossus feels way better imo

just means playing with slightly more brain so you don't drop IP

you're still tanky, and you have big fuck dam

[harsh trellis]

Yeah, I thought I was staying thane this round. but I swapped colossus because its just as tanky and you get to do a crap ton of dps

I feel like colossus is going to get the nerf bat

[smoky anvil]

I'm waiting for the demolish nerf. We're getting 30% dam on it that I think was intended for arms only, but is applying to prot as well cuz spaghet coding

[cyan bronze]

left is easier for the healer

right is kinda cursed for healer

[cyan bronze]

this happens all the time

and the only time ppl care about it is when we do good damage because of it lol

[waxen frigate]

Going right is just unhinged

[cyan bronze]

@waxen frigate do you want to see a route

[smoky anvil]

I tried going right, fuck the fire boss, I'm never touching that shit again

[cyan bronze]

right is just easy for tank

is why people go that way

[pallid quiver]

I don't find going right too bad, but it's definitely worse than going left

[cyan bronze]

Iirc pally likes it

[waxen frigate]

Do you wanna see something epic?

[waxen frigate]

So is left

[pallid quiver]

That being said, left is harder if your healer is getting hard checked for boss

[cyan bronze]

left is harder for tank supposedly

[pallid quiver]

Since they have to do more healing on boss

[cyan bronze]

and right is hard for healer

[waxen frigate]

Just tank 4head

[pallid quiver]

Tank theoretically takes more damage on left because of a debuff

[cyan bronze]

but

[pallid quiver]

that you can just dispell

[cyan bronze]

i think right sucks balls

[waxen frigate]

A dispellable debuff

[cyan bronze]

either way

[pallid quiver]

But left has literally unavoidable damage to heal through

[waxen frigate]

xdd

[pallid quiver]

It's not too bad to heal through,

but it is unavoidable on boss

[waxen frigate]

@cyan bronze

[pallid quiver]

So it's harder if your healer is getting hardlocked on healing due to gear/skill

[toxic pewter]

Does going right in priory have a lot more kicks or something that’s what someone told me

[cyan bronze]

on boss yes iirc

[waxen frigate]

@tribal wharf

[toxic pewter]

I feel like since I only pug I don’t want to do that

[waxen frigate]

Also has potentially unavoidable overlap depending on timings

Where people just get stunned in swirlies

[toxic pewter]

Interesting

[cyan bronze]

fwiw

ive also seen tanks die to the neophyleoeleltyeteles

[toxic pewter]

I’ve been going left since beta and I don’t plan on changing

[cyan bronze]

with spawning mini

[toxic pewter]

Right sounds awful

[cyan bronze]

pally wants to go right

[toxic pewter]

Right enjoyers GET OUT!!!!!

[cyan bronze]

supposedly

cus they struggle w left

or so paladins have told me

[harsh trellis]

What? Left is just as easy

[jagged gust]

literally just watched that happen to yoda lol

[toxic pewter]

Any pala tank I’ve seen on twitch seems like they taking a lot more damage than us

[round cliff]

idk how tf im supposed to pull priory dawg

[cyan bronze]

idk but literally every paladin i ask tells me left is cursed for them

[harsh trellis]

Priory is just easier going left.

[cyan bronze]

yes

[round cliff]

go right
accidentally pull way more than im supposed to
end dungeon 4% under anyways

???

[jagged gust]

I keep tweaking my mdt but the final room always feels like ass grouping unless i los

[harsh trellis]

Also if you tank the kul tiran dude on the right stairs and just wall him

Onve he's dead. Stand still. The other big 5 point mob will come down the stairs

[round cliff]

you guys dont intentionally get knocked back to farm rage?

[harsh trellis]

You haul ass left and avoid it

[cyan bronze]

i get knock backed into a pack per knockback personally

for max fun

[toxic pewter]

All my homies go left

[round cliff]

W

[harsh trellis]

Just get knocked back into all mobs for mdi strat?

[round cliff]

what am i supposed to eat at 12:30am at night

[harsh trellis]

Nothing

[round cliff]

im hungry

[cyan bronze]

btw @round cliff this is what ive been enjoying for my route

you asked how to pull it earlier

lust pull 2

[round cliff]

ah i see

[harsh trellis]

Hrmmm. 1230 to 3am is usually taco bell

[round cliff]

this makes sense

[round cliff]

this used to be my strat but

a del taco opened up near me

i havent been back to taco bell since

[cyan bronze]

pugs will sometimes complain w that route for not pulling fast enough

[harsh trellis]

Del taco is meh

They sell French fries

[round cliff]

strictly superior nachos

[cyan bronze]

but you just gotta keep your grindset up

[harsh trellis]

Like wtf

[round cliff]

dont wtf me until you've put french fries in a burrito

[cyan bronze]

disregarding everything you say from now on

[round cliff]

life changing

[cyan bronze]

THIS

that shit sounds disgusting

however

[harsh trellis]

Lol I'll try it

[heavy sparrow]

I share the same route too

[cyan bronze]

that shit is goated

[cyan bronze]

please dont copy me

i will ping mod er ators

i have this route trademarked and copyrighted

[heavy sparrow]

It's like mowing the lawn

[cyan bronze]

@round cliff

ideal burrito

GO

[round cliff]

hot take?

cheese, beans, rice
you dont NEED more

[cyan bronze]

!??!?!

meat??!?!

[round cliff]

bean.

[cyan bronze]

sour cream?!?!?

[round cliff]

optional

[cyan bronze]

ok fair

sour cream mandatory imo

it creates a nice tempature differential

but if its not chilled sour cream, its fucking ass

[round cliff]

solid point

[cyan bronze]

favorite meat for tacos/burritos?

[round cliff]

im ngl neither taco bell or del taco have meat that tastes good to me thats why i go with the beans

chicken tho

[cyan bronze]

oh i didnt mean from those places

i just meant generally

but ye chicken is p goat

i prefer pork; the place by my uni has it super fatty and smoked

😩

[round cliff]

at that point id rather just eat a pulled pork sandwich

tbh

[cyan bronze]

yeah but u cant put refried beans on that

[round cliff]

only thing i have in my house rn

is tortilla chip + cheese

or post malone flavored oreo

[cyan bronze]

tortilla chip+melted shredded cheese fucks tho?

its literally meta rn

[round cliff]

im high key about to bake brownies at 1am

[cyan bronze]

what are your favorite pieces

edge? middle? corner?

[round cliff]

i tried to accurately describe myself and got censored

..

[cyan bronze]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[round cliff]

I have an insatiable appreciation for brownies in all forms.

as long as theyre fudgy

[toxic pewter]

Me love brownie

[cerulean tusk]

1am tells me you should just take half a cup of oats and make porridge.
Your cravings will be gone and your health improved from nutrition and hydration

optimal tank needs optimal gamer fuel

[round cliff]

im not convinced

i dont even think i have oats

[waxen cradle]

Are we talking like the same kind of oats I have fed to horses with a bag hanging from there heads. I mean first of all the horses seemed to enjoy them and the whole bag hanging from head might take the whole needing to stop eating to play WoW out of the equation.

I like where this could be going

[cerulean tusk]

That moment when your brain comes to realisation that humans are omnivores and can eat most animal feed

[jagged gust]

horsemaxxing

[onyx vessel]

Orsemaxxin

[sharp gale]

4 is chainpull the three while doing shaynemail, 7 is just go around left

(i would calm down/change 1 in higher keys)

[dense remnant]

Is there some extra info on the tierset somewhere? Like whats the icd/proc rate for the 2p, and does ALL dmg you take you count, or just hits? And the wording for 4p is a little confusing to me, does the crit chance go up by 1,75x our crit chance or actually +75% chance?

[left meteor]

Crit chance is flat

Proc chance is 1 RPPM unhasted

Flags are White Melee Taken, Yellow Melee Taken, White Ranged Taken, Yellow Ranged Taken, Generic Heal Taken, Generic Hostile Spell Taken, Magic Heal Taken, Magic Hostile Spell Taken, Periodic Taken, Helpful Periodic Taken

So should proc from pretty much everything

[bronze pasture]

what's the % dps gain for Protection from 0 to 4 tier pieces? 🙂