protection

[long bone]

Like the sweet spot

[lofty warren]

what the heck is that big ass icon on my plater

[sharp gale]

Seems like agony or whatever affliction warlock dot

But what makes it appear idk

[hardy snow]

maybe you have some mob CDs addition to nameplates

[ionic nimbus]

Solution: remove the lock

Update your plater + profile, update your WAs

[unborn island]

I think people have been saying 16k for 'easy' keys and 18k for pushing. Perhaps with flasks as well

[sharp gale]

And delete the double anchored cds to nameplates / that can happens with plater + WA doing the same thing

[unborn island]

I have a lot more than that because I'm lucky with neck and rings and have very heavy haste rings+neck

But I don't think there's any downside to it

[sharp gale]

Wtf is the golden amount

[solid panther]

Hey guys, question, does the tier set work hand in hand with Immovable Object? Will the shield wall procs also grant Avatar?

[sharp gale]

Nop

[long bone]

Thanks! Im 1200 haste off 'easy' keys then. I dont know how much of a difference that will make, but once I reach 2K rating and get another charge of the Catalyst, we'll see !

[unborn island]

Think it's what a good amount of haste for ITF is? Or at least that's how I interpreted the ask

And so I just regurgitated what I think Nome was saying 🙂

The actual 'golden amount' of haste is all of it

[sharp gale]

Oh ok, it depends on downtime, but yeah 18k is the amount you start thinking about ITF, 4p change a little bit ofc

[unborn island]

I guess.

[sharp gale]

It shouldn’t be that hard to be 20k+ haste now ( I had 21k in S1)

[solar crown]

I heard there's a bug with the tierset for blookd DK that makes it override an existing buff of IBF. Is it the same for warrior/shield wall? e.g. if you have shieldwall active and the tierset procs it will override the existing buff?

[dusky canopy]

“Nameplateauras” addon I’m pretty sure

[hardy holly]

I use a macro with thunder and if avaible use sb

[vital vale]

why?

[hardy holly]

Keep the uptime higher

[vital vale]

what if you need ignore pain and your thunder will waste rage

if you have 10 sec of sb and no ignore pain

you dont wanna press sb

[hardy holly]

Ip and sb are always at 80-90% uptime

[vital vale]

well I'm hoping with 4 set sb uptime will be 100%

with shield charge cdr

[solid sun]

80-89 is a grade of B, and B stands for bad

[lusty grotto]

youre simming 5 targets for 5 mins, just do single target 5 min or 3 mins... if you wanna do 5 targets go for 1 min or 1.5

other than that im glad you didnt stick with old 4pc lol

late night "uhh wait a minute..." for me so i had to check with my sims

[hardy holly]

Ip stay around 95-97%

[lusty grotto]

ip uptime doesnt matter

SB uptime does

IP uptime ESPECIALLY doesn't matter with Thane

[hardy holly]

I use right now coloss

[lusty grotto]

i see, you said thunder earlier

so i assumed you meant mountain thane

[hardy holly]

Ah okay ... but u still use the normal thunder at coloss or not?

And keep it on cd

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean

do you mean thunder clap?

[hardy holly]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

you use it less depending on rage and ss resets

less than mountain thane

[hardy holly]

Use before mountain thane and still have to get into coloss

Thanks for the advise

[lusty grotto]

[ionic nimbus]

I can totally recommend to Switch to Colossus. It’s way more fun.

[hardy holly]

But is thunder clap not a rage gain skill?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[hardy holly]

Why not on cd?

[lusty grotto]

but with free revenges and refunds you might not need it

lower damage than revenge itself

you still prss TC

[hardy holly]

Ahh i see

[lusty grotto]

but it takes a step back

[hardy holly]

But only if revenge is not free

[lusty grotto]

if SS is on cd (no resets) and youre below a certain amount of rage

otherwise you hit SS or revenge

and/or if you need to apply rend

or refresh it

[lucid gulch]

Yesterday i tanked a 10 Key cinderbrew. In the third pull, left Side of the First room, i Just got meleed at the end of the pull 100 to Zero within 1,5 secs.. really a Lot melee attacks in a short time but was tanking before fine. Any ideas what could be wrong? Dont have a Log..

[lusty grotto]

hmm

hard to say without one tbh

i was doing that same pull last night as NA got DDoS'd

tanked it halfway lagged so i dont think it has bugs or anything

[lucid gulch]

Yes, was really strange

[lusty grotto]

oh wait

you meant the first room

idk why i thought about the left hallway

yeah so

those patrons hurt and sometimes while pulling you take back hits

i def dip sometimes on that first room if i'm not careful

also because of the patron bleed

i probably thought you meant the hallway cause thats where we got DDoS'ed and our key died lol

[quick iron]

Don't enemies sometimes ignore you're block if they're on a different elevation too? Could've been standing on a table

[lusty grotto]

its possible

but

i havent heard that one before

[quick iron]

Tbf it was only something I read on here a few months back

[strong forum]

Elevation shouldn't affect anything unless they're positioned in an angle that they would no longer be technically in front of you

At which point, they're behind you

[ionic nimbus]

Die cases Like this, atleast log into details to see what killed ya

Better is logs

[lusty grotto]

i had a dip on that run and maybe Avrii can benefit from it, but its incomplete because of DDoS reasons

and i def got dunked in one particular pull

[ruby musk]

I had a similar event fighting the first boss in rook. Chalked it up to the sudden 5k ping and server issues. Went and played MHWilds instead.

[lusty grotto]

yeah it was back hits for me

no B means not blocked

so yeah its very likely back hits @lucid gulch

[deft mortar]

Yo did they fix Barbaric Training to no longer be a dum talent

[lucid gulch]

Okay, thanks. Good to know

[deft mortar]

Fk yeah

[deft mortar]

Lemme check whatever Nome is cooking rn

[lusty grotto]

sb was up so def back hits

[deft mortar]

Ayoo it's Nimchip.

Bro still doing math for a 20 year old game

[lusty grotto]

if its math, its the easiest math in the world

i just click warcraftlogs links

[deft mortar]

I am just tryna get u mad

[lusty grotto]

but yeah barbaric training was fixed

and is perma picked basically

[deft mortar]

Yeah I eye balled my talents and it seems to largely be in line with Nomes overall M+

[lusty grotto]

[deft mortar]

Man the only thing Colossus needs is for Revenge to refresh/trigger an IP

For it to play like butter

Actually excited for this patch, usually I skip mid-season's

But I love Goblins and new raid looks fun

[tepid sigil]

Eyo my brothers in arms(prot)

I got a myth shield from vault and got 4p, so I'm thinking on crafting a 1h wep. Is it a good idea you reckon? And what embelishment should I put on it?

[lusty grotto]

no embelish

[tepid sigil]

Is any other piece with duskthread more value?

[lusty grotto]

but yeah its a good idea

there's not a huge difference but

we generally dont want embelishments on weapons since you will likely replace it with a myth one

[ionic nimbus]

Even if you forget the embellishments, you won’t feel it..

[lusty grotto]

3 ilvls on weapon is worth a lot more than bracers etc

[ionic nimbus]

It’s like sockets, they are there, but you dont feel them hehe

[tepid sigil]

I see, so I guess longterm probably bracer better, but weapon should be bigger spice until I get a myth one

Aight, thanks both of you!

[lusty grotto]

[ionic nimbus]

Crafted mythic weapon. Got last season a weapon very early, so now back to old habbits. Waiting til 11.1.5 to get wep and shield from vault….

[ionic nimbus]

This new affix is awefull. Nice to watch melees runing into frontals like the Wave from Last Boss in Rookery

[hazy umbra]

hey, anyone that could explain to me how does the priory tank trinket works ?
i dont understand exactly how does the use effect interact and when to use it

[strong forum]

How Does [Tome of Light's Devotion] work?

[Tome of Light's Devotion] has 2 parts, the default tooltip is only 50% of what it does:
Shield Mode:

• grants armor and magic absorb
  Sword Mode:
• grants 3k+ crit and huge dmg proc

After you cycle through "50 pages" of either mode, it swaps over to the other, you can force this change by using the on-use.
When using the on-use the mode you swapped to is doubled for 20seconds
meaning 6k crit and 500-1mil hits in sword mode

• taking dmg advances the pages, ICD is 0.5s

on ST and smaller pulls it ~takes exactly the CD of the trinket to cycle through 50 pages
meaning most of the time you can stay on sword more to get benefit of the huge crit budget and ST dmg proc

• staying in sword mode is BY FAR the strongest offensive trinket for tanks for priory damage

[hazy umbra]

oooook, so it's basicly not a tanbk trinket but a dps trinket for tank

thx a lot mate

[strong forum]

yeah

its very sex

[ionic nimbus]

Very good ST dmg

[untold isle]

do you have any wa that notifies you that it swapped to shield ? the trinket

I got the one that tracks and shows whats it now, but sometimes i forget myself and am for a while in the shield instead of the sword

so some soft tof wa with notifcation like press button go sword would be awesome 😄

[long bone]

wait wait wait, how does more haste equal lower shield block CD?

[lusty grotto]

sb cd has been affected by haste since forever

thats why when you hover over SB, you see the number in green

any cds that are affected by haste are that way

it has been that way for SB since... way before legion

[long bone]

So if I unequip all my gear it should go way up

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

it has a base cd

so no, it wont go way up

its just lowered by haste

[dusky canopy]

Mage lied about house of cards simming “74k dps increase”

It was 20k btw

[lusty grotto]

lol

i mean house is bis for everyone

but yeah lol

[dusky canopy]

I was next in line at 47k bruhhh

Fuck me

[lusty grotto]

[lone ingot]

guys sry for question, for first craft shield?

[dusky canopy]

I would go shield yeah unless you can reliably get one from mythic raid

[real swallow]

Just one question for the prot warri. In my vault i have a myth wrist. Ihave two setitem too in the vault. If i take one setitem, i can have the 4 Set Bonus. Is it possible to take the wrist and play one week with 2 setbonus?

[plush tendon]

first shield from raid is off Reverb

but the scaling of the Mythic bosses this tier is for sure not like Palace; no instant 4/8 Mythic for us

[plush tendon]

Mythic Wrists are literally the least valuable slot next to cape

in terms of # of stats

and will most likley end up being a place you want to place a crafted/embellished item

if the tier options are hero or myth level, I think you take that

[sick grotto]

Are any of the bosses free on mythic havent really been keeping up

[jagged pier]

The first

And thats not even 100% free its harder than the first 2 maybe the first from last tier

Lile the mechanics have to be done u cant out heal or out dps them

[real swallow]

Thanks, yes the setitem is hero

[plush tendon]

tbf, you literally keep the boss still and just kill bikes

but its more fun then Ulgrax

[placid magnet]

noob

||joking guys it's my friend don't hit me||

[unborn island]

Anyone got a nice WA for this? I can make one myself, but community ones always look nicer 🙂

[lusty grotto]

nome has a trinket tracker but but idk if you have something specifically for tome

[jagged pier]

U need pugs number 1 to soak the oil
2 ppl to run to the bikes to feed them
3 ppl to activate and aim the bikes
4 ppl to clear the oil under the boss
Otherwise u cant kill the boss

Thats far more than half group soals 1 circle half other, and dodge beams

[cosmic dagger]

There is a lot of weakauras for that what cycle you are now, search on the website

[unborn island]

Cool, never used the WAGO search before because just assumed it was useless, will do though, cheers

[lusty grotto]

not useless

[cosmic dagger]

Guys do we have a Haste cap as prot warriors?

[crimson furnace]

guys, hwo can i find the tome trinkets buffs that it gives, so I know when to use it and when to leave it be??

want to make a wa taht shows me

prssss trinket now

pew pew pew

[lusty grotto]

no, but 2nd soft cap is a good stopping point

[crimson furnace]

laser

[smoky anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[marsh perch]

@strong forum is this any good mate?

[strong forum]

[cosmic dagger]

hope i get no banned for this, i use this WA https://wago.io/N2AyOI4j0

[marsh perch]

[cosmic dagger]

your goal is to stay as much as you can in Offensive state

[lusty grotto]

also iirc 2nd softcap is 26400 to 33000 rating

so we just dont care about it

[cosmic dagger]

ok i have 30% when nobody is near me, thats 16 500

[lusty grotto]

there is no hard cap

% doesnt matter

rating does

ITF doesn't affect caps

or percents

[cosmic dagger]

jsut because i got 😄

[smoky anvil]

Check pin

First pin

[lusty grotto]

pretty sure hes just memeing nome

[unborn island]

Thanks dude

[urban bane]

i want something else

[quick girder]

What are we crafting at 675 first? Weapon or shield?

[undone beacon]

Are Tome sims inaccurate? I'm being told to replace a hero tome with a champ energy drink for ST and that seems... against conventional wisdom

[smoky anvil]

It doesn’t sim in sword mode, unless you add the script Nome mentioned yday, I think it was.

[undone beacon]

That would make sense. Guess im goin script huntin

actions+=/use_item,name=tome_of_lights_devotion,if=buff.inner_resilience.up

this yeah?

[ionic nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-26179586

[stiff gate]

Do the talent builds on raider.io work for chinese players? i know in the past their armory hasn't been accessible correctly. Wanted to check as a couple prot warriors on the front page from chinese servers appear to be dropping indom for BSV, ravager/battering ram for thunderlord, and instigate for bloodsurge

[long bronze]

instigate for blood surge is an interesting one, I've never ran blood surge what's the proc chance

[strong forum]

bloodsurge is better for big pull dungeons

instigate is good for workshop/top

[long bronze]

like giga better or just better

[strong forum]

dropping ravager/battering ram for thunderlord is....

[long bronze]

because I've just been on instigate

[strong forum]

extremely questionable for colossus

and indom for bsv yeah

[long bronze]

can't believe I've been throwing so hard

[ionic nimbus]

Every Revenge Cast is worth to swap!!

[strong forum]

with tierset i wouldnt run indom anymore

and would just run br + ravager perma

[long bronze]

nom, if you felt you needed BSV you'd probably drop battering ram for it yeah?

[strong forum]

big if

[long bronze]

I've not felt that yet, but probably keep ravager

[toxic pewter]

is that in like every situation u think m+ and raid

[lusty grotto]

SoF more like

[long bronze]

infinite rage with ravager feels too good

[lusty grotto]

for BSV

[strong forum]

pretty much every situation

indom does hardly anything these days

[toxic pewter]

interesitng

ya it feels very weak

at least compared vs what it used to feel like

at least in my head

[long bronze]

why can't I think of what SoF

[strong forum]

it does 1/3rd of what leech does L

[toxic pewter]

my nose for trouble healing more than indom these days

[lusty grotto]

show of force

[long bronze]

nom how do you feel about scrapfield, I ran it in a 10 cinderbrew and it did 1% of my healing and had 66% uptime on the haste

[lusty grotto]

idk about dropping ravager, if anything those 2

[strong forum]

you did not have 66% uptime on the haste

https://i.imgur.com/RywapiP.png

this is the buff

not this

[long bronze]

1 sec, that was my recollection from looking at details

okay yeah

[strong forum]

but yes

[long bronze]

I didn't even notice the overload, I just saw imminent and assumed

[strong forum]

scrapfield is good

[long bronze]

would you use it over amplifier?

[strong forum]

dunno

[long bronze]

seeing as the heal is useless

[strong forum]

whatever has higher ilvl tbh

[long bronze]

the "Absorb"

kk

how has nobody beat my 9 cinderbrew dam log yet

two wipe gaming

[strong forum]

cuz people dont do 9 cinderbrew

hope this helps!

[long bronze]

lol

[urban portal]

Ppl who do 9cinderbrew isn’t uploading logs either

[long bronze]

I'll have you know this is a very prestigious title

I just log everything

[crimson bolt]

quick question..how much haste you guys running atm?

[long bronze]

why not, data is cool

[strong forum]

im at 20k unbuffed rn

could be 22k if i switched neck but then i lose omega crit

[lusty grotto]

13k 😦

HR enjoyer

[long bronze]

your haste value would be in the toilet too

[crimson bolt]

jeez...im sitting at 17k

[long bronze]

2025 and playing HR

yikers

[mighty valley]

doo doo doo, doo doo doo dooooooo

[long bronze]

-1 billion dps

[lusty grotto]

uhh

so?

[crimson bolt]

and much much versa can you guys squeeze in?

[lusty grotto]

18k is the swap point

shrug

im not a versa enjoyer

crit enjoyer

[long bronze]

verse

[strong forum]

dunno

maybe like 2k vers?

so like 2%

[crimson bolt]

fml...and here I was going for strong haste/versa build...thinking it would be the way to go for m+

[lusty grotto]

its ok

[crimson bolt]

switching to haste/crit would make what diff? more dps?

[lusty grotto]

but id rather have more crit

more dps and more parry

[long bronze]

crit is for blasting

[strong forum]

Crit is better for big pulls and for more dmg

Vers is better for unblockable damage

[plush tendon]

I like balance

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[crimson bolt]

got it...still, a crit build is viable for high end m+ ? aiming for just 3k score here

[lusty grotto]

ideally i would end up with a balanced build

[long bronze]

I trust the computer and the computer says crit

[lusty grotto]

but i giga equip crit on non-push keys

[lusty grotto]

just 3k? then yes

[ionic nimbus]

More Dmg is the answer

[past cobalt]

did anything about prot warrior mountain thane M+ gameplay change since last patch?

[long bronze]

nope

[plush tendon]

no

but give Col a try

I think Col is more fun

Mountain Thane kind of gets stale

quickly

[long bronze]

I think the default m+ talents in the guide have quick leap, but I prefer big clap, I find it's easier to round up pulls with it but I'm also bad

[lusty grotto]

well its mostly cause its the same fucking playstyle from DF, so not exactly quickly

we've been playing it for a long time

[strong forum]

It was never not viable

[past cobalt]

well I have two braincells and one is dedicated to paying attention to the dungeon so yeah. I am still deciding between this or DH as the character I'm finally going to try and git gud as a tank on

[strong forum]

Sense has been getting m+ title pretty much every season that he bothered with little to no vers, stats don't make the tank

The Player makes the tank

Not stats or gear

[strong forum]

I play leap and big clap

[long bronze]

what are you dropping?

[strong forum]

Intervene and/or intimidating shout

[lusty grotto]

yea im playing big clap too i needed the gathering help

[long bronze]

okay I was thinking about intervene

[strong forum]

Big clap is mandatory in priory for last boss

To slow the adds

[lusty grotto]

and the slow is helpful

[long bronze]

I also feel like it's very helpful on big momma to grab the adds when they spawn

[lusty grotto]

yup

[long bronze]

before they yeet out to narnia

[lone ingot]

ty ❤️

[long bronze]

nom I'd like to file a complaint, you still have Stein in A tier when it should be in Z tier, and there is no shot Mechano Core Amplifier isn't A tier. Consider my complaint filed

[round pendant]

wtf I didn't know they gutted indom that bad

that's so sad

[vestal moat]

Is there any good intervene tech this season ?

[lusty grotto]

arbalest shots in ToP

jumpy boys

waxbeard adds

murrpray

and sharpshooters

[vestal moat]

Nice

[lusty grotto]

so mostly trash, i dont think there's a lot with bosses

and intervening murrpray fixates might.... hurt

kind of like intervening bombs in ML

so there's some usages, not a whole lot or huge ones but some

[mighty valley]

arbalest's a big one... at least it was in sl, those guys would just headshot healers sometimes

[neon elk]

I use it as extra mobility

[lusty grotto]

yup

i think you can intervene some point blank aoes so melee keep uptime on that area (the gladiator area)

and also its helpful so your boomie that stands in fucking africa doesnt die to adds on bee boss

while you get threat

thats why i rather drop fear than intervene for big clap

[tired prairie]

Is there a SpellBlock-WA for the new Season?

[smoky anvil]

Arbalests dad dick. The vene tech is goated.

[mighty valley]

arbalests dad dick

[lusty grotto]

arbalests dad dick

except us

[long bronze]

[high kernel]

Do you all bind Ignore Pain to any abilities or just press it when you can? I ask because I know some Druids bind Ironfur to abilities to keep from accidentally wasting rage

[lusty grotto]

isnt that backwards?

[mighty valley]

nah, the cost is too big to be throwing around

[lusty grotto]

you will waste rage by binding ironfur with other abilities

you never bind ironfur or IP to anything, that leads to bad play and rage use

[high kernel]

I was kind of thinking that. Seemed odd but I figured I'd ask before doing anything silly

[lusty grotto]

but we do bind SS to IP, just to snipe resets - we just dont use that key to SS

only to IP

[high kernel]

Oooo ok! I'll make a macro for that

[lusty grotto]

just make sure you have a separate bind for SS

[high kernel]

For sure. Good advice.

I've never seriously considered Warrior for tanking so this is my first go around with it. In the past I've been blood and protection paladin.

I like all of the yelling

[potent anvil]

I'll break 3mil soon

[lusty grotto]

[long bronze]

moar crit

[sick sentinel]

do you prefer to run T11 delves with brann as a ... tank (yes double tanking) / heal / dps ?

[lusty grotto]

dps

but i only ran 11s last week, waste of time

this week im only doing the 8s for hero vault slots

[errant coral]

Hey so I can craft an item but I'm not sure what to go for

[mighty valley]

how many gilded do you get per 11

[errant coral]

I have a 634 shield and 603 weap will the shield still be better?

[lusty grotto]

gilded are capped in delves from what ive heard

so you can only get a specific amount

and its nowhere near the 90 weekly cap

[mighty valley]

oh yeah, 21 total per week

[sick sentinel]

30 per week actuallly

[lusty grotto]

so absolutely not worth

cause we'll cap doing keys anyway

[golden thicket]

hey guys, is there a wa / guide about intervene usage in s2 ? what ability can we intervene currently ?

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[sick sentinel]

21 gilded from T11 extra chest (clear all underpin mobs) and 10 extra if you finish T11 with the map with lives remaining.

[mighty valley]

got it

[lusty grotto]

there is no WA for intervene

learn the spells, and try it out against whatever is physical

[south zealot]

invite shaman and druid

for victory

[long bronze]

and monk

[errant coral]

So guys, which should i craft? I have a 603 1H or 624 shield?

Should I get a 1H crafted or a shield?

[toxic pewter]

wat route are people doing these days in floodgate

[plush tendon]

this is mine

and then its W to the last boss

to get final %

[toxic pewter]

ok sweet thats basically wat i do

do u lust first pull

[plush tendon]

yea: lust ends up being first pull, 2nd boss, last boss

[frosty mango]

can you make me feel less bad plz

how long until blizz hits us with their big blue nerf bat

it's coming boys, it's coming

[lusty grotto]

its not

[plush tendon]

maybe in higher keys we'll be able to squeeze another one in

not sure what the timer is

[lusty grotto]

cause that dps will drop on higher keys

stop linking your LFR parses

blizzard doesnt balance around those

[frosty mango]

thats a 6 and I'm still doing 2.2-2.5ish in 9-10s?

[lusty grotto]

much less nerfs

🤷‍♂️

[long bronze]

dps also scale harder

[lusty grotto]

people really have a fetish for dooming

[frosty mango]

tanks doing relative dps to dps specs at any content level is almost certainly not intended and will almost certainly lead to nerfs

thats not dooming, its logic

[long bronze]

maybe your dps just suck

[lusty grotto]

its a 6

he just said it

[shy python]

Whats the interal CD for the Setbonus proc?

[lusty grotto]

you said tanks not warriors, good

glad its tank dooming and not warrior dooming

[tired fern]

is chrombustible bomb suit any good in M+ or do u just use damage trinkets?

[frosty mango]

dont think they're gonna flat nerf warriors, but I do 100% expect nerfs to revenge and/or demolish

[lusty grotto]

then they better nerf prot pallies and vdh

and bdk

and bears

and buff brews

[tired fern]

This one i mean. would this be any good for m+?

[lusty grotto]

yes

read the guide

[frosty mango]

more likely they just delete the spec at this point

think they forgot it existed

[lusty grotto]

i mean

youre not wrong

even if they buff brews, WW/MW are so good that people wont really pick their tank version

[frosty mango]

imo they will never be able to maintain brew until stagger is gone

its just historically impossible to balance for them it seems, its either insanely op or garbage

I dunno what the answer is outside of redesigning the mitigation profile away into something new

[long bronze]

change brewmaster into a support role

like aug

cept you hand out brewskis for the broskis

[lusty grotto]

that'd be my favorite support

just by the theme lmao

[dusky canopy]

They should just let brew properly stagger a ton of damage but only if they play around the brews properly

We block infinite melees so I think it’d be fair

[lusty grotto]

they would never do that

theyd rather have tanks be easier

[frosty mango]

I’d rather them remove stagger and somehow focus brews around absorbs

[long bronze]

you can't have giga mitigation and giga self healing together

[unborn island]

Are brews no longer an excellent raid tank?

[long bronze]

gotta pick one

[dusky canopy]

Idk I’m personally not a fan of tanks being paper thin

[unborn island]

I haven't raided since like legion so no jdea

[dusky canopy]

All tanks should be brick shit houses so to speak

[lusty grotto]

i dont think brews are particularly bad defensively

[shy python]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1218163/luck-of-the-draw

Seems to have an internal CD of 30 sec

[lusty grotto]

id say its more of a mix of issues really

[dusky canopy]

Pull size should be limited by your party’s ability to live not your own

[frosty mango]

From my past 5-10 runs avg uptime is like 18-25%

[dusky canopy]

Aside from some tank busters or debuffs to test your own ability/skill

[long bronze]

part of being a good tank is being able to gauge the capability of your group

[frosty mango]

Part of being a good tank is also control and positioning

[long bronze]

I've had a couple priories where I'm just piss vibing with 12 mobs hitting me while my group runs back

[frosty mango]

I agree, tanks have enough skill expression that we don’t need to be struggling to stay alive

[long bronze]

aka I'm bad and over pulled expecting kicks to happen that didn't

[native ember]

yea i need to go farm that place for the trinket finally got the one out of floodgate

[long bronze]

I got my tome after 18 priories

got avoidance too woopee

[native ember]

jesus how good is it ?

[long bronze]

omega bis homie

[native ember]

word say no more

[long bronze]

for me, in my sims it's 50k dps better than the signet in ST

note the default APL doesn't optimize tome, it just let's it roll natty.

you need to add

actions+=/use_item,name=tome_of_lights_devotion,if=buff.inner_resilience.up

[native ember]

bet

[smoky anvil]

Banging on mobs while the group runs back is very relatable. We missed a volley in ToP last night and they all got wrecked while I was vibing. I used demolish as it was casting and couldn’t stop it myself. 😦

[small steeple]

just did a 10 ML, and failed by 2 seconds. People kept dying to the missle swarm on last boss when I was in the cheese spot, so I started a tually moving for the rockets to the safe zone. ANyone else xperienceing this?

[stray sonnet]

is colossus better for m+?

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/uoQAKqs.png

[tribal wharf]

that trinket is just new dread plates right

[strong forum]

bout 50k good

[strong forum]

not even close

[tribal wharf]

thats how it reads for me,

the chrombustible?

[strong forum]

"better" is a little simple of a quantification

[naive panther]

collosus in fg 10, yes colossus is better in m+, tanky and damage is good even high keys. not 3m but good in a 10

yeah good point define better

[strong forum]

once i get 4pc ill finally do dmg

rn im doing unhappy dmg

[naive panther]

still no tier here

[strong forum]

but thats also cuz of weekly affix

last weeks affix was LOADS more dmg for us

[naive panther]

very true

[strong forum]

cuz gave crit iirc

this week mastery is fuckall dmg gain

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if that trinket is supposed to be like the lair one, 90s cd a bit long but 2 effects

odd trinket

[naive panther]

I need priory for tome, have my mythic pacemaker and have heroic signet for now.

[strong forum]

its explained in the pins yogi

[long bronze]

I miss my mini bloodlusts every minute already

[strong forum]

was it haste?

ight

[long bronze]

yeh haste, unless I'm tripping

[strong forum]

that explains why i often capped out on 24sec SB uptime

despite having SB ready again

[long bronze]

we get mast/leech this week

[strong forum]

ye which sucks

[long bronze]

and the opportunity to touch each other's balls

[lusty grotto]

im doing unhappy damage too since i have 0 tier

and still have 2 pieces of s1 myth

[eternal kelp]

How do I use that script for the tome in raidbots to sim it?

[stray sonnet]

is it possible to do T8 delve as tank with brann healing at ilvl 610?

[strong forum]

i just copied the full APL

and injected that infront of "use items" line

[small steeple]

but mastery is direct AP!!! RAH RAH RAH muh damage

[strong forum]

should be fine

[small steeple]

lol

[long bronze]

run a quick sim, open the full html report and grab it out of there

the apl that is

[strong forum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7XKEbjwkLvF2zjPnL84AeW

you can copy my "custom apl"

from the bottom

https://i.imgur.com/mwAHtpg.png

[eternal kelp]

Thank you!

[vestal moat]

Finally got tier, tome, pacemaker and am happy with my damage. 2.4M in Cinderbrew.

next im gonna try the drop indomitable for ravager angle you guys are talkin about

[long bronze]

something funny happend to my sim report

[unborn island]

What ilvl?

[long bronze]

that's a lot of haste

[vestal moat]

im 653 ish hero weapon season 1 shield tho

[unborn island]

Ah fair 🙂

[strong forum]

i think i did like 2.76mil in cinderbrew?

last week*

if i had 4pc woulda been EASY 3mil++

[vestal moat]

i need to pull bigger for sure

[unborn island]

Just always like to put this in context, I am still running a 639 weapon 🙂

And sitting at only 645, I am boob

I meant noob, but boob is funny

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/squishy-gif-19889425

[supple meadow]

That's at least 5 haste

[lusty grotto]

man i just cant do the priory farm, i get instantly bored

[strong forum]

thats why i did the smart thing

get 5 people who can loot as prot

[supple meadow]

what I see the doctor do when I get a physical

[strong forum]

run m0

kill 2nd boss with 5 people set to prot loot

chance to get trinket? VERY high

and its only 6ilvl lower than maxed out hero track tome

[long bronze]

champion tome

[lusty grotto]

my friends all play yucky classes nome 😦

[sharp gale]

i drop wep and shield but i dont drop other slots somehow, ppl traded me the rest x)

[strong forum]

rather run 658 tome than GRIND prior and cause permanent brain damage

[lusty grotto]

the only one that can help is my lil bro cause he plays monk

and already has signet

[long bronze]

I'm the only plate in my group I have to get everything natty

it's a good time

[lusty grotto]

ive been playing this game for too long

i go sleepy time when someone mentions farming

or grinding

[jagged pier]

same

[sharp gale]

yeah im the sick type who just loves grinding

[lusty grotto]

i used to be

ngl

[strong forum]

i despise grinding 1 key

for THAT 1 ITEM

[long bronze]

the dopamine when it finally drops

[strong forum]

no not rly

i have adhd

[sharp gale]

yesterday i did maybe 6-7 cinderbrew 10 just to try get the neck or the chest on my dk

[strong forum]

i dont get happy about drops

its juts a "finally its over"

[lusty grotto]

same

[long bronze]

sounds miserable

[jagged pier]

100% what nome said

[lusty grotto]

at least now

[long bronze]

y'all okay?

[lusty grotto]

i feel like getting older has hypercharged my ADHD

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-face-you-get-what-gif-24340177

[lusty grotto]

im like "i could be pushing keys" or playing monster hunter

[long bronze]

you're making me sad

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/something-you-just-cant-understand-eric-cartman-stan-marsh-south-park-s12e3-gif-21154246

[jagged pier]

i only need 1 10

for full vault

will run later

gunna MH after food

[strong forum]

when you lose your job of 9 years cuz you are literally unable to get out of bed

[lusty grotto]

i havent touched MH since season released

[strong forum]

thats not a fun thing

[lusty grotto]

got 40 HR, and left it

[long bronze]

no I imagine not

[strong forum]

im hr 98?

i think

[jagged pier]

[long bronze]

i personally prefer the idea of a happy cloudman

[strong forum]

but i was that before season even started

[jagged pier]

im 79, 80?

I do hunts on my lunch break

[lusty grotto]

i went hammer main as usual but so much as looked at sword and board and i was like

[sharp gale]

i didn't play since last weekend, im 70ish if i remember

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-shocked-face-gasp-omg-gif-17083293

[jagged pier]

my first MH i liked longsword the most

[lusty grotto]

sword and shield fucking own

[sharp gale]

Charge blade

[jagged pier]

just working on fully upgraing my gear, then imma try new weps

[lusty grotto]

crit blocks and shit

[strong forum]

Charge blade through and through

[long bronze]

[strong forum]

2k hunts of charge blade, and the 2nd highest is maybe 10

[lusty grotto]

actually im not sure i stayed at hr40, all i remember is that i finished the post-story story

and did quite a lot of tempered etc

[sharp gale]

i crafted the ankveld armor+wep thats it

[lusty grotto]

cant even remember my HR

[long bronze]

we run ITF guys

[jagged pier]

U need to play more

[quasi frigate]

Nom, is the common idea around running BR for the auto haste % for rage gain over Ravager?

that's the only thing I could think of lol

[long bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[jagged pier]

Damage and tbh your most likely gunna drop indom instead of rav

Cause it does a whole lot of nothing

[quasi frigate]

gotcha

thanks!

[jagged pier]

thats when u get 4 pieces

[scenic ore]

Hey just wondering when we should break our 4set from last tier, do we break it as soon as we get the 2 set from season 2?

[jagged pier]

2 set

and then sim when to get rid of old other pieces

[scenic ore]

perfect, cheers

[undone beacon]

Nom BB, could you explain or pin how to run the tome trinket properly in sims? I'm a lil braindead

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[undone beacon]

Nim bb you've done me a great service

[dusky canopy]

Me every time nim tanks ^

[upbeat geyser]

hey mate , best craft for mm+ ? actually? shield / mh ?

[jagged gust]

I crafted a shield so I never have to go prot for vault

I got one too many mythic throngus fingers last season

[undone beacon]

Throngus get whipped again if he no finish

[undone beacon]

If you dont have a way to gain access to a high ilvl shield (mythic raiding, full mythic vault slots, etc), a shield is a reliable craft

[dusky canopy]

Smort

I’d probably do the same

[undone beacon]

No myth tome for you then smh

[upbeat geyser]

y but the tome is the best in slot actually for prot na?

[long bronze]

tome is giga large

[primal warren]

Any table for this raid where spellblock works on bosses?

[upbeat geyser]

and the crafted shield vs gallywix hm shield?

The best trinket is kezan + house of card ?

[long bronze]

#protection-faq message

[long bronze]

shield ilvl is most important, not stats or effects

[tired vigil]

is prot actually bugged? after 4 years wow pause im topping dmg meters in m+

this is FUN, this cannot be wanted by blizzard

[cyan bronze]

no

not bugged per say

[jagged gust]

I'm not too worried about raid parsing, I'll settle for a top 50 any day

except in lfr

[rocky crest]

Started playing colossus yesterday, Got a question. I feel rage starved when playing it, any pointers on that

[long bronze]

don't slam ignore pain?

[supple meadow]

yeah that was my problem too, too many IPs

[shy python]

Whats the spell ID for Luck of the Draw!?

[supple meadow]

only use it when you're about to cap on rage

imo

[rocky crest]

Aha

Gonna try that tip, thanks

[supple meadow]

no problem

[rocky crest]

🫡

[supple meadow]

I use it when I'm about to go over 70, which still gets a pretty decent amount of uptime due to the fact that col gets a nice little chunk of IP more than thane

[vagrant carbon]

Anyone know the average uptime of shield block?

[supple meadow]

you shouldn't not be able to hit 90+

[lusty grotto]

you want 95%+

but 90 is okay if youre only looking at details

closer to 100 effective uptime on logs though

[supple meadow]

yeah

nim knows better than me, no sarcasm 🤣

I've learned more than a few things

[narrow jay]

More haste helps as well I've noticed a lot of prot warriors i look up on raider.io and armory have criminally low haste.

[strong forum]

its recommended to not look up random people

cuz right now most people are geared towards raid dps

[cyan bronze]

no

I will pick a random top 100000 io pwar and copy him

[pallid quiver]

or doing really random shit without any actual basis

[cyan bronze]

then complain about bad damage

and blame the discord

[pallid quiver]

that's not a real wow player

a real wow player would just blame whatever minority group they hate the most from what i've seen

[cyan bronze]

LOL

true tbf

[strong forum]

arent gamers the most oppressed group of them all

[dusky canopy]

How come last week Murloc.io shows skarmorak shard as the most equipped trinket
Are the new ones that bad?

[sharp gale]

new tier set is doggo, every one use S1 set

[jagged gust]

It's true though, it's always the damn pally's fault

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-my-free-coffee-gif-25537785

[tribal wharf]

paladin has bubble

enough said

[rocky crest]

Do we skip bsv for ravager even in +11 and above ?

or we safe with it as colo

or is it a personal taste

[tribal wharf]

i think i heard ravager dead because we take roar or spear now, double check though

[rocky crest]

seen ppl doin roar and spear together

mainly ruskis, maybe they're on to something

[mighty valley]

i think it sims worse and is worse for survival than IO

i really hope it is at least, please don't give me another button

we're already dropping ravager for battering ram, if you really want BSV you'd probably drop that?

although indomitable isn't what it used to be.........

[hollow sphinx]

Is eye of kezan worth it for tanking?

[mild river]

I think it's bis

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/v2QQrIv.png

pretty decent

[long bronze]

[stray gazelle]

Is it better to keep it on dmg or just spam it on cd

[strong forum]

keep on dmg

[stray gazelle]

Ahh I thought the active makes a huge buff

[strong forum]

nah

active doubles whatever you flip to

[long bronze]

having shield for full duration would suck

[fallow wind]

need to find a good way of tracking, i find myself forgetting to press it back to dmg 😦

[formal geyser]

Do u guys still take ravager with 4pc?

[strong forum]

ye

you can opt to run BR instead

or both

[oak ivy]

How much crit/dmg does this trinket add I haven't seen it ingame yet

sry 4 ping

[lusty grotto]

i wonder the reasoning with doing Aemya instead of left to Damian, people complain about it but its the pug route

kinda seems like it would boil down to "its less sharpshooters and more count"

but holy fuck that mini boss sucks ass

[mild river]

Which one? The dude that places fire all over the place?

I just hate priory

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats Aemya

[strong forum]

6k crit on use

2.8k perma

[mild river]

The paladins that makes impossible to pull more than one group at a time at the end bc their aoe hits for 60% life...

[strong forum]

skill issue

[lusty grotto]

thats outplayable though

[mild river]

How so?

[lusty grotto]

healers that cant handle fort tolls

idk they dont hit me hard

[mild river]

Hummm

[lusty grotto]

sacred tolls though can chunk the group if healers cant top people off between them

[mild river]

Well, idk. I timed a 10 and had a heart attack every time they did their aoe

[lusty grotto]

the knight shouts are fucking insane if you manage to sync them, i was laughing so hard last week on a 10

but its easy to outsync them

[mild river]

Yeah. That's noticeable. The 10 is did their first boss was a piece of cake with the healer I had

[lusty grotto]

first pull just pull left side first

then move slightly to body pull right

and they'll be unsynced

[round pendant]

Another session

still no weapon drop

still no trinket

[toxic pewter]

how quickly does eye of kezan buff expire out of combat

[long bronze]

how does cyrce's snapshotting work? Does it account for buffed stats or unbuffed? With Flask, Dawnthread and Tome my crit > haste and I still want haste from my windsingers

[frosty mango]

not hard to handle if you know its coming with 2 paladins in the group

disc priest go brr tho

[fair elk]

How do you survive Pyro Party Pack on Sprocket? Doing HC and dying to it often 😅

[timber arrow]

Any tips on handling 2x creepers at the end of Darkflame? Running on 9-10s I'm getting huge stacks and having to leap away into the dark to try and drop.

[neon elk]

U shouldnt have dark there yet , and leaping is the wY

[timber arrow]

Running in pugs so dps is a bit hit and miss. Should I be telling them to hard focus one down asap?

[neon elk]

Way* just leap before u have too many stacks , apart from that, use wall, SR, and pray for parry

[timber arrow]

I mean in the escort the cart bit sorry

At the actual end it's easier to leap away because no dark

[neon elk]

There arent 2 at aame time during escort are they?

Also dont let them "eat" small ones

[timber arrow]

Lol I've def had 2x at once twice last night

Maybe people accidentally pulling more grabbing non-optimal candles

[neon elk]

I mean, maybe there are , i just didnt notice them havent done it that much

[timber arrow]

Just had a look, there are 2 in the last pack, can't be separated or avoided

[neon elk]

Dont let them eat small ones, mark one so people are taking it down, use wall , use SR , leap into dark if u have to but not with too many stacks as thats just a suicide

[shrewd plinth]

I was coming here to ask about the creepers, I am glad and sad that others have a similar issue and a similar answer

[rocky crest]

If you time it right, you can spell reflect when they try to reapply the debuff

so you can drop it

or just skip 1 application

[timber arrow]

Oh nice

That's helpful

[long bronze]

I've found just fucking dying is good at clearing the debuff too

[kind urchin]

If you're tanking 2 at the same time it won't work unless they're synced.

[timber arrow]

Yeah prob more a strat for once one is dead and you have high stacks

[timber arrow]

Legit prob the easiest way

[strong forum]

maaan

i would top dmg so easily in this top11

if i had tierset

[neon elk]

Just bribe priest to pi you

[strong forum]

nah just need tierset

thats like +15%

https://i.imgur.com/HscbJgj.png

completely styling on the competition

spear does kinda own ngl

think i like spear over roar

[small steeple]

i got the 2 set from norm raid on tuesday, pretty nice. Pretty random but it feels like it goes all the time, but its only 1 rppm right?

[strong forum]

ye

but its still +15% dmg for 12sec

whenever it procs

[supple hollow]

Anyone got a WA thats working for Luck of the draw tacking?

[strong forum]

generic buff tracker should be fine no?

do this but add the spellID

1218163

[deft mortar]

Lemme check the tierset

[strong forum]

this should be the ID

for luck of the draw

[deft mortar]

Heh kinda just

Flat dmg

[supple hollow]

Thanks lads - think i got it working 🙂

[deft mortar]

And I guess forces us to use SC, not that anyone didn't

[strong forum]

ye but you wanna hardsend it immediately

to not waste any potential uptime

when tier is up

[deft mortar]

Did anyone confirm if the passive SW proc triggers avatar

Think prev expansions shit like that happened

[strong forum]

no it does not

[deft mortar]

That's sadge

I bet some random spec has insane tier interactions that Blizz slept on

[stiff gate]

vdh did on ptr but it was mostly fixed

[frosty mango]

last boss of motherlode, is his standard attack just straight fire?

i can stay alive but feels like dude just trucks

[iron vale]

why spear tho?

[strong forum]

damage

[sage flower]

protection

sorry

[toxic pewter]

Tier wildly imbalanced between the tanks

Vdh’s metas and shit proccing 8 different things

Meanwhile we can’t get a simple 4 sec of avatar smh

If ours even proccs at all especially single target

[mighty valley]

Ours is pretty good

You know what they say about gift horses

[crimson furnace]

uptime is super low, tho

😦

[quick iron]

What are you guys doing to get aggro with the adds on the bee boss in cinderbrew, the overlap with the firepools feels like I either let my dps get hit whilst I drop the pool in a safe place, or let the dps play the floor is lava

[round pendant]

damn Arms owns

[frosty mango]

heroic throw is usually enough to get aggro on adds

it does a shitton of threat relatively speaking

[hollow flower]

Is Flarendos pilot light actually decent in aoe?

[frosty mango]

I picked up the normal version and it kinda sucked

[hollow flower]

i have the heroic version and sims say its suppose to be good

[frosty mango]

the actual aoe effect seemed kinda not wide and it didnt do much

[left meteor]

The attacks are magic but also spell reflectable

So it's just Reflect/Spell Block angle

[fallow wind]

slowly getting the hang of this trinket

[vocal flame]

I saw Nom's notes on wowhead for the embelishments, Dawnthread > Duskthread? I know he said we can use both but prob just crafting one pc for now (shield)

[pallid quiver]

Optimally, it's probably the one for whichever stat you have less of, but it's a sim question really

I would honestly just grab whichever is cheaper if you're doing it right now

[vocal flame]

yeah not much of a difference about 500g

[strong forum]

i crafted lense cuz i did ring

[vocal flame]

best missive right?

[strong forum]

for arms/prot

[pallid quiver]

i haven't crafted jack all

[frosty mango]

Yeah I gathered that

When I had no block/ref he was absolutely blasting me in 12

Avg 3.2m max 5.x

I lived but was spamming IP

[foggy fox]

Hey guys can you pls help? If I have a shield with 50k block and one with 90k block what does it actually do?

[pallid quiver]

Block is what's known as block value. The simplest way to understand it is that the higher the number, the bigger the damage reduction

The specific damage reduction is determined by content due to the K-value thing you may have heard around

[foggy fox]

But is it just flat 90k or 50k off the initial hit or does it have some weird scaling? Is it a big jump from 50k to 90k?

[pallid quiver]

If you want more in-depth, you'll want to check out block mechanics and k-value and what not, but

yeah going from 50-90 is absolutely massive

Block value is the single stat that provides us the most survival, and it's a real good stat, especially since it only comes from one gear source (your shield)

[frosty mango]

On the flip side because it only comes it one slot it makes choosing a shield fairly simple

[pallid quiver]

You can get a loosey-goosey idea by going into a Mythic dungeon, targetting an enemy, and checking your character sheet; it should automatically update with effects from k-value and everything else

[pastel sleet]

when do we move on from circe;s?

[formal basin]

tome of light's devotion is good? seems meh

[small steeple]

A 2 chested +9 floodgate

I had a pretty poor amount of hits blocked

Is that a floodgate thing, or am I misplaying, or having my back open

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1bvHc9327fQMyxJK?fight=last

[strong forum]

looks fine

could always be higher ofc

[small steeple]

Then how did it show 64% when I first looked?

[strong forum]

cuz its damage taken

you take SIGNIFICANTLY less dmg from blocked hits

and MUCH more from unblocked hits

so overall the unblocked hits will sum up alot more dmg

thats why you wanna look at blocked hits

[small steeple]

where do i look to see the ratio of blocked to un blocked?

[strong forum]

not melee dmg taken

im showing it in the screenshot.

[small steeple]

oh just over the hits? ok

[strong forum]

ye

[small steeple]

ah ok ty

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/oEoEUJL.png

[small steeple]

i see it now

[strong forum]

this is from my meadery just now

[frozen berry]

What’s the strategy on not dying to the tiny bees in there

[small steeple]

be a dwarf

[strong forum]

get dispelled

a lot

so blame your healer

its entirely healer job to spam dispel you

[small steeple]

oh the magic dot one, yeah healer

[strong forum]

the final sting you wanna use spellblock or SW for

but the dot you wanna be dispelled perma

[long bronze]

can we just soak all the bombs on hgally

[lofty warren]

thx

[oak ivy]

What's the required amount of haste for ITF again?

[small steeple]

used to be 17k haste, but not sure if there is one anymore if you have the new 4pc, but 17k is a safe bet

[oak ivy]

Copy ty

[pallid quiver]

okay but what's the strat to have your DPS do more than 1m DPS in first room

[lusty grotto]

sheesh

[small steeple]

are damage parses for DFC broken? Super weird. Its also called "UNKNOWN AREA"

[prime sphinx]

looks fine just only like 5% of dungeons get logged

[pallid quiver]

You also generally end up with only people who care more about damage and improving logging keys, so it can be harder to parse in keys than raid

[waxen frigate]

dungeon damage parses are always very strange

the parse % on the left notably is strictly correlated to the amount of io gained from the dungeon

the key % on the right is your actual parse % relative to other logged keys at the same key level in the same dungeon

[next pasture]

should i use this stupid ass vexie trinket?

[waxen frigate]

over those other 2 i doubt it's better

can sim it but also remember it's possible to miss mobs with it

[prime sphinx]

No just use it to freely upgrade your floodgate trinket

[fallow wind]

why is this good? no only vers on it

[sharp gale]

it has the budget of the other stat on vers

but still it is not really good

[fallow wind]

Wouldnt the cloak from ML be better, it has haste and crit

[frosty mango]

Unless you really like verse

[sharp gale]

which no one does over other stats

and : cloaks, 40 ilvl difference for just 1k main stat and really smol secondaries

[lusty grotto]

both ML and Workshop cloaks are good

Workshop cloak is listed on the guides because Nome probably had mega crit already equipped on the simmed set and versa will sim higher as you get close to soft caps for crit

but really either is fine

im personally trying to get both

to no success because i fucking hate farming

[left hatch]

wowhead guide only has 1 piece of crafted listed in any of our bis lists, is the 3 ilvls from a mythic piece better than the embellishment on boots or belt?

[lusty grotto]

depends on sims

both are options

bis lists arent set in stone

[left hatch]

okiedoke ty

[sharp gale]

and it depends on when you are crafting, bc having 675 on any of these slots are ofc better than what you have

[signal plover]

is heroic gally shield better than crafted 675? obv the ilvl for armor isnt just curious if it's a flat no or a maybe

[left hatch]

besides ilvl the proc on it makes it better i would assume

oh heroic... probs not

block value is huge

[signal plover]

yeh mythic it's BiS

but i doubt it's worth 10 ilvl of block value

unless content b trivial

[left hatch]

yah i agree

[lusty grotto]

you can sim it

but its not a massive dps increase

from the numbers ive seen here

i wouldn't use it over a higher ilvl shield

not worth the minimal dps up

[fallow fern]

is taking champions spear and thunderous roar viable? lol

[pastel atlas]

do we switch to battering ram with 4p?

[waxen frigate]

You can, it’s optional

Some people prefer to stay ravager

[pastel atlas]

okay ty

[oak ivy]

Holy fuck Gallywix is something

[round pendant]

it's op

no wait I mean

yeah it's awful blizz please give us better trinkets

[small steeple]

just got a hero track tome. how do you use it?

[round pendant]

when it's not sword mode

press it

[small steeple]

is there a WA out there to keep track of tome stacks?

[sharp gale]

Yes

Type tome on wago

It tells you to press

[small steeple]

cool thanks

[sharp gale]

You don’t care about stacks, you just want to see when it switch into def mode and then press to go back in dmg mode

[round pendant]

What the fuck. This whole time I've been looking at the amount section thinking I'm just bad

[distant fractal]

Do people still use WME or is there better options now?

[waxen crypt]

is tide of battle 5% like the buff or 10% like the talent tooltip? i'm a bit confused on how much it actually gives

[onyx vessel]

looks good to me

[peak olive]

should i always 675 a shield over a weapon? I currently have 626 wep/ 658 shield

[sharp gale]

You have another spark next week

So I would craft the shield and craft the weapon next week, or not craft at all until next week

[peak olive]

roger roger, thank you 🙂

[sharp gale]

(Try to do floodgate more)

It has gucci gear on many slots

[toxic pewter]

Has anyone done heroic gallywix the tank bombs we have to deal with anyone have any tips how this all goes down

Seems very confusing to me for some reason

[sharp gale]

I did my first pulls yesterday

Idk I just click on the bomb

[toxic pewter]

Do you click both bombs

[sharp gale]

One each tank from what my cotank told me

[toxic pewter]

Hmmm

[sharp gale]

But it was weird bc 2 bomb spawned next to him

And I’m a fucking bdk

[toxic pewter]

Yah I’ve been just clicking both