protection

[jagged pier]

[pallid quiver]

We live the same life

Same here, hunter even

I'm betting it was in the bee area, wasn't it?

[jagged pier]

how did u know

[pallid quiver]

Same thing happened to me

[jagged pier]

have my 8 10s done, 5 of them not timed

but vaults full

also found a bug yesterday

u can start m+ mid way through a dungeon if u want

[hot orbit]

can anyone tell me if this WA works?

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9

[next pasture]

i cannot time a 10 cinderbrew. is that dungeon cursed? i have no idea how it’s possible. i even skip one pack in Ipa’s room and it’s still like 1-3 minutes too slow.

[lucid gulch]

even after the nerfs? i dunno, i timed all 10 keys with just w route

[next pasture]

i see vids on youtube of people doing it with like 3 mill dps overall, but my dps never get over 2m… might have something to do with it. i really have no idea…

i’m doing the same pulls too, fuck it just gonna keep throwing my head at it

[ionic nimbus]

Maybe pull bigger

If Timer is to Short. Bigger pulls

[dense hound]

more

[unborn island]

What?

What ilvl?

[pearl zinc]

hey guys

your resident ret/vdh player here

do yall have a haste threshold?

[jagged pier]

no

[pearl zinc]

i was led to believe prot likes all stats somewhat evenly and you should prio ilvl

ah

ty jake

[unborn island]

Haste is our best stat, everything else is close enough to not matter, ilvl is usually >all but I wouldn't love the feel of the spec with low haste 🙂

[frail talon]

It's ilvl worth giving up 4p of s1 tier if so, how much higher?

[young meadow]

do you guys prefer duskthread or dawnthread?

[jagged gust]

Anything that's an ilvl upgrade, basically any hero piece or any champ piece you decide to upgrade

[frail talon]

So not worth keeping lower ilvl to maintain the set bonus from s1

[jagged pier]

Its a sim angle

Cause its not for me

And i have 3 hero oieces on tier slots that i could equip

[karmic lily]

I wonder if you can help me, it's been a long time since I tanked mythics with the prot, and it's hard for me to get the aggro from the pulls. Any advice? When I get a big pull, I always miss one or two? I'm not bad ilvl 643 and im doing 6/7

[heavy sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-music-band-how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-feeling-young-gif-17269329

What are we crafting for gear bis this time of year

[neon elk]

Kinda depends on your goals and what u have

[heavy sparrow]

True

Got a gilded crest and I do have a S1 crafted 636 shield I was thinking of

[neon elk]

Shield is a very good option, but just wait till reset

[sharp gale]

I would wait (since reset is tomorrow/ 2 days)

[sharp gale]

If you do multiple packs as one you should kinda plan how you will form the death ball (if one pack has a caster you want to finish on him, if 2 separate you want kick and go one the other one)

If 3 casters and all 3 are separated, just don’t or hope one of the pug can and will move one of them

[sand geode]

should i craft wep

[frigid valley]

how the fuck does this classify as Good trinket in wowheads trinket list

[jagged pier]

because 3k haste is good and 3.6k strength is also good

so ither way this trinket is giving u something good

[frigid valley]

But during longer combat i basiscally have no second trinket eqiupped no?

[sharp gale]

Yes after 30 sec

[jagged pier]

its a 50% uptime which is generally pretty good

[jagged gust]

it's almost good in fights that last < 30 seconds

[sharp gale]

But on use with no stat are also no trinket for 2 min for example

[frigid valley]

fair, Just such a sad item to get from bounty

[jagged pier]

i mean

u got a better item than i did

[sharp gale]

[jagged pier]

yer fuck you

[crimson furnace]

omg

delete the image

pls

pls

yer fuck you x2

😦

[sharp gale]

I worked hard to get them

[strong forum]

Wait did I?

That's gotta get moved

eh its in B tier

[frigid valley]

upper half = good. Lower half = bad

[strong forum]

gonna move it to C

[frigid valley]

xff

[sharp gale]

B is wearable to me C is not

[frigid valley]

^

[strong forum]

ima move a few trinkets around

[hardy snow]

for me C is wearable, because that's the only one dropped so far

[oak ivy]

Bombsuit and pacemaker

[sharp gale]

At least you are lucky with tier sets right ?

Im 0 tier s1 and 0 tier s2

[oak ivy]

im ngl i ripped both my catalysts

[hardy snow]

hell no XD

only loot luck I've had, was sword from hc reverb

[topaz latch]

cant believe u guys are getting loot

[sharp gale]

I don’t (in raid I’m tank so almost last on prio)

[oak ivy]

I do (50 keys since tuesday, end me)

[topaz latch]

hey me too. i only heroic raid tho, so the loot isnt even top tier when i get it lol

[strong forum]

ive got 1 piece of tier!

[oak ivy]

prayge zenith drops tuesday, im #2 prio cuz my LC isnt cringe and knows our tier is big dam

[unborn island]

What role do you guys typically wind up doing on the last boss in dark flame?

[jagged gust]

I move the candle 5 feet to the left

[toxic pewter]

Anyone complaining about trinkets just be happy you don’t have the trash ball trinket

May be the most dumb trinket blizz ever made and I am stuck with hero version of it week 1

[jagged gust]

slightly less worse since you're the tank

[oak ivy]

this

[toxic pewter]

Yeah true now that you mention it

[jagged gust]

unethical pro-tip: Do a small pull and force your DPS to blow their CDs so when you pull big the pack lasts long enough to get trinket value 😄

[sharp gale]

I was so happy looting the big red button of Motherlode, it was big nostalgia to use it in couple dungeons

[unborn island]

Yeah, is it just that I've had trash pugs who have no idea, but I've had to try and to literally everything

So just wondering what should be 'normal'

I quite enjoy if tank boss and move candle is all I need to do

[jagged gust]

I just tell people when you get the circle, it's your turn to grab a candle

that's 90% of the encounter accounted for

[unborn island]

Yeah...I figured that would be self explanatory

But apparently not

[jagged gust]

oh absolutely not

remember, it's your job to hold the groups hand

that's just how tanking is

[unborn island]

In a 7 last night people just stood on the fucking candle with the circle

[jagged gust]

in pugs

[unborn island]

Yeah

[jagged gust]

This channel is as much group therapy as it is discussion on tactics

[unborn island]

Just assume that people might have some base level knowledge at all 🙂

Bad assumption I guess, especially this week

[sharp gale]

Darkflame i just move 5 feet and i trust the healer for grabbing candles

[jagged gust]

I'd say a vast majority in week 1 have only ever experienced most of this seasons mechanics in heroic, if at all at this point

For all they know the circle is a soak

[oak ivy]

this is why i only run w guildies

cuz the general populace needs handholding n i do not wanna

[sharp gale]

But you can hard carry as tank

[plush tendon]

running keys with guildies is best

[jagged gust]

With guildies I am forcing my way throughs 7s with 5mil overall DPS and me being 2/5ths of it through the sheer power of voice comms

[plush tendon]

I can bring my 630 prot war to 10s

[sharp gale]

(Like not pulling the boss and asking if anyone needs to know something) for pug

[plush tendon]

[oak ivy]

oh nah my guild isn't like goated but we're p gud

[strong forum]

and even then you wipe even after you EXPLICITLY told people what to look out for 20seconds ago

[lusty grotto]

stupid nome with tier luck

😢

[strong forum]

tier luck

[plush tendon]

I got 2 piece

[strong forum]

1 hc piece

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

0 pc

[oak ivy]

real shit mr. parry

[lusty grotto]

🙂

[strong forum]

and myth vexie helmet

so surely

[plush tendon]

just need to run a 'alt raid'

[jagged gust]

I gave up 2p so my monk could get swole

[plush tendon]

and be the only guy on zenith

[strong forum]

i get a myth tier from vault

so i get to run 4pc

[sharp gale]

STOP

[lusty grotto]

2 banked catalysts 😦

feelsbadman

[strong forum]

well yeah

[oak ivy]

I used em both, i have negative patience

[sharp gale]

Not even S1 tier on my thing

[strong forum]

dont come complaining when you get to 3pc this week

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

and cant get your 4th

[oak ivy]

nah nah imma get a myth piece in a new slot from vault and a piece from raid

ez

watch

[neon elk]

Do we still get one charge every other week?

[strong forum]

uhuh

[lusty grotto]

my biggest problem is we raid fri/sat so idk what ill do for 2pc

[plush tendon]

but tanks dont get loot in raid

[strong forum]

and then totally its not only the pieces dropping that you already catalysed

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

YEAP

[oak ivy]

my LC is bigbrain and since Pwar is #2 damage 4p on zenith, i get mine after monk

[sharp gale]

Like crafting and drop a weapon or a shield in the vault 🧏‍♂️

[strong forum]

we dont LC

otherwise id be easy 4pc

[plush tendon]

wait, yall not in a Mythic guild that uses GDKP?

[lusty grotto]

holding spark for 3 weeks feels fucking awful also

[plush tendon]

[plush tendon]

I sent on a shield

[oak ivy]

ditto

[strong forum]

im not even in a guild

[oak ivy]

join my guild father we will welcome you with open arms

[strong forum]

we are just a sophisticated assortment of degenerates who happens to convene on the same day

[sharp gale]

I send on the first vault personnally

[unborn island]

I'm holding spark until I know what I get next week

[strong forum]

i crafted ring

no ragrets

[lusty grotto]

i cant

i gotta 2 hander

[strong forum]

dont

[lusty grotto]

hopefully i just get a lucky myth weap

[strong forum]

crafting weapon is troll

[unborn island]

Because I 100% get whatever I crafted in vault if I don't wait

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

1h weapon is fine, but not 2h

[lusty grotto]

well the 1st two hander comes from Styx

so it'll be a WHILE

im in a real casual guild now

[sharp gale]

Ah on my bdk /also 2h I crafted a cloak (I was thinking I would not have 3 cloaks in my vault)

[strong forum]

still

crafting 2h is troll

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[strong forum]

just grab a 665 bis when you can

and use your sparks on something useful that doesnt get 100% replaced by an ilvl upgrade

[lusty grotto]

good point

[strong forum]

it aint worth 2 sparkonies this season

[sharp gale]

But if you talk about furry, the crafted wep is bis no ? Until you get Gallywix mythic wep

[strong forum]

no

[plush tendon]

Best in Slot is Best in Slot

[lusty grotto]

in that case ill perma fury vaults fo rnow

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

bis is bis

[sharp gale]

In off hand

[strong forum]

yeah and mainhand any maxilvl is better

[plush tendon]

next question, why you playing fury

when Arms is a button away

[lusty grotto]

who

you know the answer to that from my side

🙂

[sharp gale]

I don’t, I’m edgelord this tier

[lusty grotto]

[plush tendon]

I wanted to play Prot War this tier in raid... then we watched Liquid on trash boss

and guild is like 'ya, you stay blood'

[lusty grotto]

stix is interesting as melee dps too

interesting as in, i fucking hate it

but the katamari ball is fun at least

[sharp gale]

(The head is obviously bc I only see my char from above and it is funny)

[sharp gale]

As the tank I see what is behind the boss and I’m « wtf is going on, for melees»

[lusty grotto]

as a tank that dps in raid

i hate that other tanks cant grasp the concept of positioning

"let me leave this dude on top of b urning garbage, while my melee suffer"

[vague abyss]

how the heck i do the first pulls of cinderbrew? if i pull like raider.io says, people just either die or they pull adds :(. Im trying a 6 as 641

[lusty grotto]

how are they pulling adds

[vague abyss]

like if i pull the 4 or so packs from 1, they somehow pull the patrol from 3

[lusty grotto]

if youre pulling the knock back ogre, they will easily pull

[sharp gale]

(I do 2 first bc CHEWIE goes too left on pull)

[plush tendon]

you gotta pull chewy by himself

[lusty grotto]

dont pull chewy

[plush tendon]

Chewy is big scary

[vague abyss]

yeah i guess ill have to do right first

[lusty grotto]

ogre on pull 3

[sharp gale]

He is, that’s why I do right first bc he is very close to 1

When you start the key

[plush tendon]

yea, I do right with lust, then chewie solo, then left

[vague abyss]

so yo clear 2, wait for chemy, then do 3 and 1?

[plush tendon]

and just chain/pull everything

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[vague abyss]

ill try it doing that way then

[sharp gale]

Don’t pull any dude who AoE dmg with chewie

I don’t remember the name of the dudes

[plush tendon]

I started to like Cinderbrew more

[lusty grotto]

pyromaniacs

[plush tendon]

bee wing is still kind of a pain

with the big dudes putting a long debuff on

[strong forum]

idk

cinderbrew is kinda of piss

[plush tendon]

and I forget to let it fall off

[lusty grotto]

or maybe he means hired muscles

[strong forum]

after first 2 pulls

[plush tendon]

better then priory

fuck that place

[sharp gale]

It is an average dungeon for me, for now

[smoky anvil]

Chewy dealt with means Cinder is actually a fun dungeon imo

[strong forum]

first 2 pulls do smth, and then its just

[vague abyss]

yeah cinder is fine after that first room

but that room is pain if people bodypull

[sharp gale]

Motherlode hype here

[smoky anvil]

I still hate Motherlode.

[strong forum]

ML is weird now that you skip 90% of first area

[smoky anvil]

I hated it in BFA, I hate it here.

[strong forum]

instead of getting 70% count there

[plush tendon]

que?

[vague abyss]

wait what?

[plush tendon]

is this new tech

[lusty grotto]

no

[strong forum]

you just run in a straight line now

and you will get count

[sharp gale]

You skip all at the end ?

[strong forum]

ML is full W route now

[lusty grotto]

he means where we did count on the donut (2nd area really)

back then

[strong forum]

^

[plush tendon]

yea, we do the first robot, then skip the minefield

[sharp gale]

In bfa you would just bash area 1 and nzoth portal

[plush tendon]

to last boss

[indigo hawk]

Something I don't understand about "bis is bis" is that Wowhead and icy vein don't give the same bis for prot warrior... So how bis can be bis if some site don't give the same bis ? 😭

[plush tendon]

I figure in higher keys youd have the tank death skip past the two mechs

[mild river]

craft shield or weapon first? both are at the same ilv

i'd say shield, right?

[strong forum]

this was DPS talk

[sharp gale]

It was a 2 handed wep discussion (Bis is the name of a 2 h wep of the raid)

[strong forum]

theres a weapon called best-in-slot

[plush tendon]

also, the miniboss before 2nd boss in ML is stupid

at least on Prot War

[indigo hawk]

oh mb

[strong forum]

😄

[indigo hawk]

So in fact for Prot warrior there is no real bis ?

[lusty grotto]

idk i have no problems laughs in dwarf

[indigo hawk]

Exept 4P

[plush tendon]

I went human

[strong forum]

ye "real bis" doesnt exist

[plush tendon]

I got bored of being a dwarf

[sharp gale]

Laugh in death strike

[strong forum]

you just deal with what you have

you have your stat prio and go from there

[indigo hawk]

But what i don't uderstand is that icy and wowhead give versa = crit but give a majority of item with crit on bis slot

So it's not really versa= crit

[plush tendon]

it dont matter much

just get haste

crit and vers are both cool

[lusty grotto]

it means both stats are equally useful

the " = "

[plush tendon]

mastery is little less cool

[indigo hawk]

Ah ok i understand more

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt mean you hard stack one or the other

[plush tendon]

but a hard BiS list doesnt exist in retail

[sharp gale]

And stat prio on wowhead is not really a big thing to follow religiously

[lusty grotto]

dps favors crit

up to a point

[plush tendon]

like, you aint targeting a 'true BiS' like you do in classic

[vague abyss]

yeah you kinda play with what you get

[indigo hawk]

Ok i see thank you !

[lusty grotto]

but like augusto says, just equip anything with haste

[indigo hawk]

haste and ilvl for life

[lusty grotto]

mastery is good too

[sharp gale]

And top gear if doubt

[lusty grotto]

big haste + mastery, doesnt mean ignore

[smoky anvil]

You’d do this big loop in BFA motherlode for count

[lusty grotto]

yes thats what i said

well, Nome did

[smoky anvil]

My phone wasn’t loading 😦

[lusty grotto]

just clarifying

oh lol

[indigo hawk]

And in fact crit work well with the 4P

[ionic nimbus]

But the benefit is caped at 25%

[indigo hawk]

Ah I didn't know ! 😮

[sharp gale]

Yeah on the BiS list, it is a list of the best items if you have EVERY items of the list in MYTHIC, so if you change 1 thing it is just a different stat distribution on a different slot etc etc

[smoky anvil]

Any 4 set havers able to confirm if having it is as fun as it seems?

[lusty grotto]

imagine having luck

[ionic nimbus]

You get 75% additional crit chance and cdr for sc is bound to Crits with ss. So 25% basecrit is 100% critchance

[indigo hawk]

Yeah that's why stuffing in wow is hard for new player ahah

[smoky anvil]

I can’t. I didn’t roll higher than 40 on every eligible piece in a full clear of normal.

Lost the sword off second boss to a 627 ret pally I was outdpsing on single

[lusty grotto]

eh

at least you can get the DFC/Workshop ones

so the 1h isnt a big deal

[indigo hawk]

Ah yeah make sense !

[smoky anvil]

Mhmm. Was just hoping to get new season shit.

[lusty grotto]

[indigo hawk]

What are my chance of crit here ?

24% or 18% ?

[sharp gale]

24%

[indigo hawk]

(sorry for french shit)

[sharp gale]

Je suis français tkt

[lusty grotto]

happy is french too

[indigo hawk]

And what is the 18 % ? :/

[lusty grotto]

dont apologize for it honestly lol

parry

thats why crit is highly valued

its offensive and defensive

[sharp gale]

Les 12698, c’est les stats que tu as sur ton stuff, t’as d’autres source de crit que ton stuff (la stat ajoutée)

[lusty grotto]

same as vers

[tulip oar]

If you're Canadian, we kinda have to be able speak French.

[indigo hawk]

ok merci ! 🙂

[sharp gale]

Par example je suis gnome, j’ai 1% de hâte gratuite mais c’est pas dans la valeur ajoutée (le chiffre flat de hâte)

Du coup ça c’est sur tes 18.000 par sur le 24% au cas où

[jagged gust]

je suis gnome

Is your new note

[sharp gale]

Im never talking French anymore in my entire life, thx

[jagged gust]

i am gnome, hear me roar

[indigo hawk]

Parfait merci de l'aide ! c'est plus clair ahah

[mortal cypress]

Thank you

[sharp gale]

RUHIG

[lusty grotto]

why not

sirs

no shame to speak your primary language (or secondary)

or tertiary and so on

[sharp gale]

I lost 100 aura bc William set a Je suis gnome on me, I will prevent that happening again

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[mortal cypress]

Je suis pamplemousse, hon hon mdr

[lusty grotto]

silly william

[small steeple]

Poor dude got hacked

[sharp gale]

I tried to @ mod but I forgot which color they are

[lusty grotto]

you can @ Valkyr

but usualy they are on top of it

i think Mwahi gets em fast as hell anyway

[sharp gale]

Yeah better overdo something for those things

[ionic nimbus]

In general, post your questions and you will get an adequate answer, most likely. Skyhold, especially the prot section (actually I am not that much into fury and arms) is one of the best class discords.

[lusty grotto]

uhh

youre not wrong, but we're talking about bots

that are posting phishing links

its just you cant see it cause it got removed instantly

[vague abyss]

starting right on meadery made it much easier, although i tried it in a 4

[lusty grotto]

good shit

[sharp gale]

I hope pug tanks will notice quick that chewie start his patrol going left

[vague abyss]

they have to fix the raider.io route then, because thats where they tell you to pull 😦

i woulda though they know better

[sharp gale]

I don’t really use Rio routes, I prefer to know « why »the route before the « how », I can’t tell much

[lusty grotto]

they are good for starting out

no shame in using them

[sharp gale]

Yep

[lusty grotto]

you just correct them when possible

on your own end

[sharp gale]

I meant I prefer just no route and try pull until I see what is wrong / no care about over% by small amount for the first dungeons

[verbal venture]

You can take all the smart route you want... in PUG there are always a Ass puller....

[sharp gale]

If you think there is too much ass puller in pug, take into count there will ALWAYS be ass pullers on this pack and correct your route

If the worst case happens too much, just think it will always happen and prevent it

[verbal venture]

If i had to do a route for floodgate "anti ass puller" i need to tank all the add from start to duo boss...

People die an come back with "friends" always

[smoky anvil]

I’ve just been eyeballing floodgate.

[sharp gale]

You have to get a different mindset when you do pug routes

[smoky anvil]

It’s worked well, funnily enough.

The shredders are the only scary trash till you go down below.

[rancid tiger]

Ass pulling is life

[sharp gale]

The only dungeon I did a route yet is priory for now

[rancid tiger]

Once ppl realize u need to step out b4 blades and then move i

[smoky anvil]

Ya I’ll probably route priory next time

It’s just fuck off heavy on trash

[smoky anvil]

Big true.

[rancid tiger]

Half the time ppl just standin there

[sharp gale]

And DfC I just planned on the first few packs on mdt what I do

[smoky anvil]

DFC I eyeballed and it worked out as well.

I looked at route that’s a little more efficient I’m gonna do next time I go in.

[sharp gale]

Yeah eyeballing was kinda bad on the casters for the beginning in my case

[smoky anvil]

I’m enjoying the season so far but have yet to do real keys.

Just 6s. Gonna try and complete a 10 tn.

[sharp gale]

I enjoy it, not as bdk, but I would maybe push this season on my war

I will try my first 10 on my war when i come home, I think I’ll just thane just to secure idk what to expect

[lusty grotto]

eh

no need for thane

[sharp gale]

Does fort hurt ? I’m 640

[lusty grotto]

you should be fine

[sharp gale]

I did an 8 just fine as col

[jagged gust]

Be more worried about your pugs surviving

[lusty grotto]

^

its fort so it hurts a little more but not by a whole lot

[long bronze]

I ran 10 priories yesterday and got the trinket twice, but it was the wrong trinket

[sharp gale]

My brain is in bdk mode for 10s and my hp still terrifies me even after a week playing it

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt know i dont play bdks

[sharp gale]

Yeah it was more a question if it hurts for prot (because on my bdk I just see my health bar swing in 10s)

[untold isle]

guys, do you too feel taht collosus is OP? liek very op ? If played correctly you almost do dmg like the 4th player and the survivability feels nice as well, I am loving it

[lusty grotto]

no

its not OP

do higher keys

and youll see your damage go down drastically

[sharp gale]

^

[lusty grotto]

with good dps players

[untold isle]

whats higher?

[sharp gale]

A key where the dps are always over 3 m overall

[untold isle]

so lets say at 12, is thane comperable to collosus?

so far maximum timed for me is 10 this season

[lusty grotto]

no

[untold isle]

and I kind of love it ;p

[lusty grotto]

thane is not comparable

[ionic fern]

If you do comparable overall as your DPS'ers (without them dying), they are bad.

[lusty grotto]

to colossus until it gets buffed

yup

[untold isle]

nimchip so what do you go for at 12?

[sharp gale]

On the dk I do around 1.8 (0 tier) and dps are 3 m when I’m with good players

[untold isle]

thane or collosus?

[ionic fern]

Whatever you want.

I'm playing both in 10s' Colossus and Thane.

🤷

[lusty grotto]

i have no issues with colossus in 10s

[untold isle]

I find Colossus so much more fun right now 😄

[ionic fern]

Then play Colossus.

[plush tendon]

Thane aint that far behind

also, more rage is nice

but I prefer Col

[lusty grotto]

thane IS far behind in aoe

[untold isle]

well thats where my qustion stemed from 😄 if you feel its OP, and if its also comparable survival wise on 12+

[long bronze]

do yourself a favor and drop shorter leap cd for bigger TC

[lusty grotto]

dont say such a thing Augusto

[plush tendon]

its safer though

more rage feel good

but Col more fun

[long bronze]

I did 2.65 overall in a priory yesterday lol

it's stupid

[tardy lily]

Guys, can someone explain why we are no longer running Ravager in Thane?

i thought prot is more rage starved now

[mighty valley]

tier set gives us more shield charges, making battering ram better

plus the attack speed increase gives rage from instigate

wouldn't drop ravager til you have tier though

[ionic fern]

You can still run it if you want to.

It's more of a flex point now.

[tardy lily]

many thanks for the quick explanation!

Can I still play Colossus w/o the new tier? or will that be more of a loss?

[ionic fern]

Yes, you can

[next yacht]

ez key ez dmg

[daring narwhal]

is ipa in cinderbrew bugged ? add spawned respawned with full energy going full immune during the dance

[unborn island]

Noice, just got given a 655 2 hander, will maybe save me some crests when my drop luck is inevitably shit.

[lusty grotto]

hasnt happened to me

[sharp gale]

Adds on ipa have energy ?

[unborn island]

If they run through some of the shit on the floor they can get CC immune I think?

[sharp gale]

Idk I only did the dungeon in 9, I have no clue on what ipa or bee boss really do

[unborn island]

I saw it on a 9 🙂

[sharp gale]

Yeah and immune or not I had the impression I could infinitely kite them anyway as the wheelchair class

[lusty grotto]

no

[sharp gale]

I played enough zombie in Call of Duty

[lusty grotto]

they gain energy over time

[daring narwhal]

idk if it's energy or a buff stacking to 100, but once they reach full they are immune to cc and move faster

[lusty grotto]

then they get 200% movement speed at full energy

[daring narwhal]

they spawned at like 80 shortly going immune in like 1-2sec

[strong forum]

who is ipa

[sharp gale]

The beer boss in cinderbrew

[strong forum]

ah

yeah idk

i just kite in a circle

[daring narwhal]

didn't do it before, they spawned with 0

[strong forum]

and if adds die, great

if they dont, i keep kiting

[sharp gale]

I didn’t even notice they move faster at some point, I imagine they still move slower than the boss can run

[lusty grotto]

they probably didnt hit 100 energy

thats why you didnt notice it

thats the guy's entire point

they were spawning at max energy

[strong forum]

i always give 100%

even when spawning enemy mobs

[lusty grotto]

facts

[sharp gale]

You ask me to kite smth, I do (it’s smth I love doing as tank)

[lusty grotto]

gross

[sharp gale]

Yeah not the kite where you flee, the kite where you need to move an enemy

[lusty grotto]

but youre technically not kiting anyway

yea yea

[sharp gale]

Maybe I just don’t know the English word

[unborn island]

Only issues I had with IPA is that he stops eventually to spawn the next wave of adds

Then you fucked

If they ain't dead

[lusty grotto]

yeah just gotta hold stops for casts

[sharp gale]

Adds from puddles respawn before the boss next sets

[daring narwhal]

i mean, it's generally not an issue, it's just that they spawned max energy while the dance was active, so no way to kite. Probably just a beta bug and will be fixed

[strong forum]

fixed by 12.0 certainly

[unborn island]

Hehehe

Sure it's one that'll always be a pain in the ass, but people will adapt to

[daring narwhal]

@strong forum I think there is an issue in the bis m+ : Faded Championship Ring does not drop from Darkflame Cleft but from Cauldron of Carnage (Raid)

Also, why is the Pyroclastic Greatboots the global bis but absent from both m+ and raid bis ? Is it because of stats balance ?

[strong forum]

Si

[strong forum]

Fixed

[fervent sentinel]

So why do we take versa over mastery?

Mastery seems so good

on paper

[lusty grotto]

we dont

versa is just slightly better

it doesnt mean we take one over the other

the only 2 considerations we take over others are ilvl and haste

[vocal flame]

We are dropping Rav once we get 2pc?

[lusty grotto]

4pc for rav drop

you need the shield charge cdr

and you drop rav for battering ram

[vocal flame]

ah ok ty!

[cold mountain]

Hello I would like to make a question right now I am almost haste soft capped from gear before proccs.....should I go with diff enchants gems? here is my armory link https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/battaglia/

[sharp gale]

You mean the -10% diminishing return cap ?

You still go haste (I would sim enchants and gems)

[cold mountain]

ok roger that and I have a high haste low crit weapon same i lvl with the very rare

should I wear this in M+ since the very rare contributes too little on my dmg profile

and what enchant would u go with it?

[sharp gale]

I would sim 1 target and 5 targets patchwerk 5 min the 2 choices in a top gear and choose according to the results

[sudden lynx]

Man anyone else feel like tier lists and testing and whatever from youtuber is just complete gabagool

[hardy snow]

always have been

[sudden lynx]

Every tank tier list Ive seen has shit on prot but its still my favorite by far

Still feels just as good to play too despite the rage nerfs

[jagged gust]

find someone who makes tier lists who actually knows how to play prot

(the secret is none of them do)

[pallid quiver]

Before you even get to that, you have to acknowledge that, overall, WoW is generally among the best balanced these past few years out of its entire run.

Modern WoW is much closer overall than a lot of classic expansions in terms of damage and survival

[novel temple]

So what's the best spec/hero talent setup now?

with new tier/without new tier

[jagged pier]

which ever u find the most fun to play

[lament musk]

small rookery overall

[urban bane]

[jagged gust]

The protcake arc continues

[magic shell]

anodized deflectors are hot garbage right?

[latent steppe]

yo brothers i'm a m+ enjoyer as a tank and i play dps in raids. right now im in a huge dilemma of deciding in between prot warr and blood dk. any idea how am i going to decide hahah

[mighty valley]

Look into your heart

[hollow sphinx]

is there already a list which talents we should use for each boss?

[sudden lynx]

Oh wtf man 😭

[vagrant pivot]

and I was gassed about my 2.1M overall in PFS 😭

[jagged gust]

try not to compare rookery against non rookery dungeons

[dusky canopy]

Protcake owns!

[small steeple]

does rookery have giga pulls?

[jagged gust]

massive damage amp on final boss

[small steeple]

ah

right

[vagrant pivot]

big pulls before end boss though if you're feeling spicy

[jagged gust]

those empowered boulder boys sure pack a lot of spice

[dusky canopy]

Had a VDH stack a boulder boy up to like 30 stacks lmao

He lived

[unborn island]

What....key even was that? And how big were your pulls?

[strong forum]

I mean he says it

Quite literally

Wish I had gear so I could post my dps aswell

But I don't

[frozen berry]

It worth making a capped shield or possibly waiting for one in vault since we’ll be opening as prot this season

[strong forum]

Wait for vault

[frozen berry]

Is it 16k or 18k for ITF breakpoint? With swapping gear for Ilvl my haste has taken a hit and shield block is getting a little sketchy

[small steeple]

just did my first 10. Is it just me or is the workshop time pretty tight?

[toxic gyro]

Depends on your group’s dps. I outdpsed my friends mm hunter on bosses and we still timed

[lusty grotto]

i have a collection of boots

and i keep getting boots

boots everywhere

i hope blizzard gives me more boots

[ionic nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/feet-smile-hmm-yes-agree-gif-17832448

[supple meadow]

I had the same problem last season except with necks

I'm pretty sure I had every neck drop in the fuckin game

[lusty grotto]

imagine having necks

no necks, just boots please

[toxic gyro]

I got 5 1h weapons so far, no shield. Surely one is waiting for me in my vault.

[lusty grotto]

rocking a champ track 2h

feelsbadman

[toxic gyro]

Sometimes it be like that.

[ionic nimbus]

Imagine having a 639 neck… still sitting on my crafted one

[lusty grotto]

eww

[ionic nimbus]

But yeah got 4 pairs of boots, but still wearing wq dungeon q shield

[lusty grotto]

fuck that feelsbad

ive been hard spamming ToP for 2h + dps trinket, priory for tome and ML for general upgrades

[ionic nimbus]

Yeah maybe it’s karma. Was so stupid to craft weapon. Greedy to dmg as colossus

[lusty grotto]

i fucking hate it lol

[waxen frigate]

HUH

[lusty grotto]

nish

i have a mog update

S+ tier right?

surely i win this time

[ionic nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/training-yes-sir-sir-yes-sir-military-camo-gif-10007517926208280687

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-morning-gif-2006024723481706945

[lusty grotto]

ok i gotta buy that costume

[formal elbow]

i just looted from a 8er delve some strange trinket which marks an attacker with a brand (fire dmg) and heals me a bit..i bet its not rly good?^^

ofc..sim says meh^^

[red otter]

Video just as bad as the original

[ionic nimbus]

I guess I know which trinket you’re talking about , should be useless

[tawny mulch]

With this is it just recommended to switch it to the crit buff every chance you get or nah?

[lusty grotto]

yeah its pretty self explanatory

sword for dps

[vale escarp]

If ya need a Champion shild you could do the weekly world PvP quest and buy it

[lusty grotto]

shield for defensiveness

[tawny mulch]

Thought as much, Thanks for the answer

[lusty grotto]

so if youre not hurting, sword all the way

[vale escarp]

It takes like 15mins

[tawny mulch]

yeah i'm just smashing through 8 keys as full crit buff

[lusty grotto]

good play

wish i had it

[ionic nimbus]

Wq shield is champion ml shield, that’s pretty good. But it’s just no hero trinket. But thanks for the tip

[formal elbow]

i knew it, but thanks pal 🙂

[tawny mulch]

yeah it's pretttty crazy

[hollow citrus]

is Stix's Demolish reflectable? I saw that prot warr led the pack in damage on liquid's kill, and figured it had to be due to reflect?

[lusty grotto]

no

its due to ball damage

details will be big for whoever lands ball on stix

the whole fight is about making sure bombs are hit and then boss,

tanks get a ball, so hes doing theirs

[unborn island]

I'm rocking a massive 643, so you're probably better than me, imma filthy casual with bad drop luck 🙂

[strong forum]

îm 652 but like 0 tier

no trinket

[long bronze]

0 tier gang, only last season 2p

[strong forum]

fuckall crit

[small steeple]

i have oppsoite, fuck all haste, all crit

[supple meadow]

how do you get the ilvl like that

[strong forum]

playing the game

[supple meadow]

haha so funny

You know what I meant 😡

[strong forum]

legit, just do 8-10s

[supple meadow]

oh wait

lmfao

[long bronze]

tbf you have mythic helm

[supple meadow]

I meant

[strong forum]

ye i got lucky helm

[supple meadow]

Like the decimal and shit

[long bronze]

had to succ the loot council for that one

[strong forum]

oh

thats elvui

[supple meadow]

ah ok

[strong forum]

with shadow and light extension

[quasi yacht]

hey are we bugged or is prot warr damage just insane

[supple meadow]

you should totally let me steal your elvui profile so I don't have to set mine up

🤣🤣

[strong forum]

hey, every tank does this damage!

hope this helps

[long bronze]

also tfw actually dps main so you had to craft ring first

[strong forum]

we just require less effort to do this much dmg

[long bronze]

[strong forum]

than other tanks

[quasi yacht]

are you sure

[supple meadow]

I hate when people say this 🤣

[nova rover]

oh god

[strong forum]

yes

[supple meadow]

It feels so patronizing

[strong forum]

a good bdk and ppal do still 2.5-3mil every key

a good VDH also does this

a good bear can also do similar numbers

[quasi yacht]

i dont see them doing 4m tho

[strong forum]

brew just cant

[waxen frigate]

Nome gaslighting smh

[strong forum]

4mil?

[long bronze]

sheesh 4m

[supple meadow]

bears are annoying

[strong forum]

are you looking at liquid stream

and see the pwar do 4mil dps?

on stix?

cuz uh

thats not the class doing dmg

thats him running the ball into the boss

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[supple meadow]

I was hoping that someone would knock them off their high horses

[nova rover]

Hey guys is a crafted weapon solid or wait?

[lusty grotto]

all the chatters on the RWF apparently havent done the fight lol

on any difficulty

[dusky canopy]

Nim

[waxen frigate]

Twitch chatter moment

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[dusky canopy]

Did you do all your 10s?

[lusty grotto]

i mean they are coming here to ask

[supple meadow]

twitch period moment

twitch chat is weetodded

[long bronze]

blizzard devs in twitch chat getting gaslit into pwar op, nerfs tuesday

[lusty grotto]

all 3 slots no, but im missing 1 for 4

im just holding the key for my friend gang

why? do you need it @dusky canopy ?

[dusky canopy]

Nah I got my 8 slots, just making conversation about how your week is ending

[lusty grotto]

oh

i should def try to get all 8 slots

its just work... lol

i had a fun moment last night on priory 10

[supple meadow]

yeah I'm tryna get all my vault slots done today

Gonna be a grind and a half

[lusty grotto]

cause my friends were getting overlapped by shield casts when going to soak on 2nd boss

"hey guys maybe you shouldn't instantly run to soak"

[dusky canopy]

Kek priory

The pug slayer

[lusty grotto]

oh i actually did better with a pug on it

[supple meadow]

I love priory

[long bronze]

affix orbs spawning on button and nobody noticing is fun

[broken cove]

I suppose we have permanent shield block uptime with new 4set?

[long bronze]

on bottom*I

[dusky canopy]

Prot paladin pulled that dungeon like a monster for me first pull with lust had mini boss and 4 packs for example

[supple meadow]

Jesus christ lmao

[dusky canopy]

MW did 2.Xm overall, at the end of the dungeon

On 5 targets

[lusty grotto]

lol

i pulled like a monster for my friends

[long bronze]

so far most cursed affix orb spawns are TOP spirit hallway and priory last boss during run to top level

[lusty grotto]

and then knights sync'd

double aoe = dead

[dusky canopy]

Syncd knights rip

[lusty grotto]

they were getting deleted i was fucking laughing

[strong forum]

Prot Warrior 4MILLION DPS?!

Yes, on liquids kill of Stix Bunkjunker, the prot warrior does 4million dps because the balls you use TO DO BOSS DAMAGE count on details

It's a boss mechanic! Not the class!

[lusty grotto]

kept saying theres def something were doing wrong, i was just fucking laughing cause i knew how to fix it

[long bronze]

this is a sad day

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17349365856782341010

[supple meadow]

🤣🤣🤣

[dusky canopy]

NO WAYYY

[lusty grotto]

but i just couldnt stop laughing at them instantly getting deleted

[supple meadow]

Now that's funny

[lusty grotto]

Nome saving

[long bronze]

good idea to not make the PI prot tech public @strong forum 😉

[strong forum]

cba twitch chat wonders

[lusty grotto]

very clearly spell reflection

😎

[dusky canopy]

WhY iS pRoT wAr So Op

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

[supple meadow]

did you guys see liquid got the baby nerf

blizzards baby

[nocturne spindle]

god the wrong god damn priory trinket

fuck this game and its trinket drops

[neon elk]

Thers a typo tho

[nocturne spindle]

does priory trinket (tank one) on use put other trinket on CD

or is it its own thing since its just like an internal switch

[broken cove]

when do you guys taunt swap on hc gallywix? just after the p1 frontals/soaks or anything to do with Trickshots?

[long bronze]

I've gotten the wrong once twice now I feel your pain

I did 10 of them yesterday

[lusty grotto]

preach

[nocturne spindle]

I did like 8 runs over the weekend

and like 8 floodgates

all 3of my dps friends got the trinket

[long bronze]

for what it's worth, signet isn't bad, and you can tell pug groups you can trade it now so you get insta invited

[nocturne spindle]

from floodgate

[vocal flame]

which one? I got the crit one and it does insane damage with Demolish.

[nocturne spindle]

i got signet

been farming for the book

[vocal flame]

I got signet too, its pretty good

At least priory is sort of fast to farm it lol

[nova rover]

just on each soak and in p2 when you get the circle

[long bronze]

for signet to be good you'd need more crit than haste which is unlikely unless you like shield block downtime

[strong forum]

no theres not

[neon elk]

Smooth edit

[vocal flame]

my gear is bad so I have a ton more crit than haste right now lol

plus with the aggresion potion does big numbers

[nocturne spindle]

just use a haste flask ez clap

[heavy sparrow]

It's okay cause just like leveling, so is getting gear to transition to

[formal elbow]

which ilvl should i have for tanking normal raid? i have 630 atm

[heavy sparrow]

I'm rocking 31% crit

[restive oak]

when are we getting nerfed?

theres no way they gonna let me do 2-2.6 mil overall consistently :x

[kind urchin]

I've seen other tank classes at over 2 mil also. We're not that far ahead.

[ionic nimbus]

and dmg is our key feature right now

we wont be meta due to our dmg

so I dont think big nerfs are coming

but in the end any shaman specc is overperforming and any warrior specc is getting nerfed KEKW

[restive oak]

nerf fury

[ionic nimbus]

yeah reduce their target cap to 3 targets

[restive oak]

sounds like a blizzard change if i ever heard one

[storm estuary]

Apologies if this has been discussed and I missed it but does avatar proc off the tier set shield wall with immovable object?

[raw gyro]

has the gameplay changed much from s1?

[cerulean tusk]

Did we really pin that message, people actually making a fuzz about it?

Better nerf protection warrior tho, just to be safe

[small iris]

Gimmie back glad stance blizzard

[next pasture]

i’m 650 ilvl and i have 5000 haste. is that really bad? seems every item i get is verse/mastery. very demoralizing.

[urban bane]

it does not

[cerulean tusk]

Doesnt matter

I got 12% haste, I am doing more than fine

10s going down left right and center

Time to see how bad this one is

[next pasture]

yeah i mean, i have some moments where shield block falls off for 3+ seconds, and i have to use stuff to fill it in. idk if more haste would prevent that from happening

[waxen frigate]

That’s uhh

Not good

[cerulean tusk]

You can have 100% uptime with 0% haste*

so ya prob not using HR

[next pasture]

hmmm, i see. i feel like i wasn’t having this issue last season. i’ll have to be more mindful of SS resets, and maybe not use ignore pain in tandem with them just to ensure i can revenge more

[cerulean tusk]

Just remember to only IP if you are about to overcap, and you fine

Only time I dump rage on IP is when I am about to take a tankbuster and I want to feel snuggly safe

[next pasture]

yeah, the dot tank busters hurt. undead braunpyke hurts me more than thunder punch i feel (with fort obviously)

[cerulean tusk]

Pop IP, SR and Wall; then be a cheerleader for your healer

[cerulean tusk]

Demonspikes

stinky

get out

[lusty grotto]

just spell block

[waxen frigate]

This guy doesn’t know I’ve never been a warrior main

[cerulean tusk]

Dont care

if you were

I see spikes

:( out

[cerulean tusk]

I pray your meta is the only meta you will get this season

[dense cradle]

Should have gone aldrachi smh

unless this was a lower key

[hexed moth]

guys what do you suggest for crafting

[sharp gale]

nice

[violet ginkgo]

shield

[hexed moth]

isn't the shaild from last boss worth it

[sharp gale]

you will kill gallywix in mythic soon ?

[hexed moth]

HC maybe

[sharp gale]

you can sim if it is better than crafted shield

[mighty valley]

there's no way the hc shield competes with mythic ilvl, the effect is nice since it's free but it's not a huge deal

[keen leaf]

^

unless ur going to be CE, shield for surer

[long bronze]

wait for vault, myth shield in vault yay, no myth shield in vault, craft shield

[next pasture]

so, i was not using HR, is this decent uptime without it?

[sharp gale]

unless you're going to be CE next week or very soon*

[raw parcel]

I crafted before the nerfs and regret it. Though pre-nerf there was no chance at all I was doing 10s.

[strong forum]

im here

but i do have 21k haste

[heavy sparrow]

Crafting a gilded crest shield yay or nay

[long bronze]

Wait till vault unless you need it to progress this week for some reason

[heavy sparrow]

That's my play so far we'll see

[next pasture]

i have 5093 haste...

[strong forum]

my neck alone has more haste

wtf kinda gear are you using

[next pasture]

https://raider.io/characters/us/moon-guard/Brekhart

bad luck

[strong forum]

do you REALLY not have any other neck and ring?

[fast karma]

Yo. Just out of curiousity. Are we running MT or Colossus for prot keys this tier?

[sudden lynx]

crazy mog

[strong forum]

whatever you prefer

[sudden lynx]

whatever you like

[strong forum]

colossus does more dmg

thane has more rage

but less aoe dmg

[heavy sparrow]

Collusus but whatever you want man because MT we're probably all used to now

[fast karma]

Aight. I keep getting trolled by friends for playing mountain thane. So was wondering. Thanks for the answer.

[strong forum]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/draenor/Nomeratur

heres my gear for reference

[dense cradle]

Does the wowhead guide have thane for raid st?

or is that just an option

[strong forum]

option

both colossus and thane are hardly different in dmg output on pure ST

depending on gear thane might even sim more

colossus relies on crit a lot

[dense cradle]

but colo is more aoe in general?

[strong forum]

ye but if you have almost no crit, thane is gonna be really close

but crit vastly improves it

[dense cradle]

Yeah would need to check since have rather low crit

[toxic pewter]

He wanted to be with his slot machine buddies'

[dense cradle]

surprised a guy was playing tclap reduces demo shout cd as colossus

[toxic pewter]

lol gross

[heavy sparrow]

I can understand that

[toxic pewter]

why for when we press clap like every 10 seconds or whatever it is

[heavy sparrow]

We can pull up to 4m damage on like 2-3 group pulls and having that perk would be beneficial to keep damage low on battle stande

[toxic pewter]

rather just play aoe int

[heavy sparrow]

I can see that play

[toxic pewter]

we over here too busy revenging lol

[heavy sparrow]

Sounds like a MT user wanting some more ethical

[toxic pewter]

I GOT REVENGES TO PRESS MAN

AINT NO ONE GOT TIME FOR SHITTY CLAP

[heavy sparrow]

Just like the good ol days

Party proc revenges

Parry

[sharp gale]

yey

[strong forum]

[lament zealot]

Do we like the tank trinket off of Stix or nah? It looks kind of ass but I'm bad

[toxic pewter]

I use a normal version of it I like it OK

[narrow jay]

How does tome of lights devotion work do we have to track it? or dow e jsut use it on CD and have fun?

[empty loom]

hows prot warrior so bad on leaderboard, when their dps is pretty good (M+)

[vale escarp]

I just made a WA for it, so I know when I dont have the crit buff and can use the trinket so it switch to crit

[novel temple]

I just bricked my 8 top

the dps werent focusing down any bosses

just aoeing them downb

literally first boss

[next pasture]

you can just coast it in m+, or switch to damage if you're bursting, but on bosses you def want the damage one all the time

[bleak breach]

Damn, nice and quick.

[sharp gale]

early raid off that's what i like

[bleak breach]

I haven’t noticed a single issue with Prot yet, we’re only 5/8h but only time anything has felt bad was if the group stuffed something.

[bleak breach]

You guys get Aotc too?

[hardy snow]

Mugzee on hc is pretty fun

[small steeple]

hell ya

[paper eagle]

What are you guys crafting first, i was thinking main hand...

[chrome falcon]

that's the right way to do the boss though

[cinder marsh]

any funny names for mecha gnomes warrior?

[ivory elbow]

hey

[small steeple]

GnomHome

[ivory elbow]

i was wondering about demolish do we hold it for avatar and use it on cd and dragons roar

[lusty grotto]

does anyone know if the 1h recraft thing works with recrafting s1 1h?

or do you have to craft a whole new weapon

trying to get my lil bro to do it

on his monk

[strong forum]

Cuz a) it's week 1 of the fucking season and only beyond degenerates are pushing

b) its still not prot pally

[strong forum]

Should work with s1 aswell

[lusty grotto]

ok we're gonna try it

thanks nome

[strong forum]

Oh you mean

Upgrade s1 item to s2?

Absolutely works

You just replace the spark

[lusty grotto]

yeah i mean

after he ups it to s2

can he recraft into offhand?

for the discount

[strong forum]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

ok roger

[strong forum]

Should work

[ember sinew]

Finally blessed with a H track tome 🙏🏿

[sharp gale]

nop we killed bandit heroic and first mythic / raid off we did what we wanted to do

i was allowed 1 loot on the kill of the first boss eheh (the bracers lol)

[vocal cave]

holy hell ego check on gallywix hits a lot

[cursive needle]

Does anyone else feel like our 2 piece doesn’t proc very often? Feels bad.

[small steeple]

1 rppm

[mighty valley]

it's strong though

would be silly if it procced more

[bleak breach]

Ahh yep, so 6/8h and 1/8m?

[nocturne spindle]

Wait is there a magic way to skip crests on weapon and shield

With the crafting?

[toxic pewter]

Sort of feel under the weather not able to get even a single +10 done how far back will this put me for the season

Season is over for me I think. I’m washed up

[nocturne spindle]

If your not 4/8 mythic your washed

[formal elbow]

gally trinket is rly nice..that 7mio hp absorb and dmg x)

[native ember]

um should i drop season 1 tier set for ilvl upgrades dont have season 2 tier yet

[lusty grotto]

yes

[mighty valley]

Pack it up til the next expansion tbh

[toxic pewter]

Just got sick couple days ago

Set me back bad

Missing a mythic item does suck tho

I need to get one done at least

[native ember]

word well bye bye tier hello nothing

[nocturne spindle]

Something like 15 ilvls was a dps up over 4pc

When I simmer it

Simmed

[narrow jay]

Is Tome of lights devotions 3.8% of my overall dmg in my keys worth the loss of 4500+ Mainstat?

[mighty valley]

Yeah it’s a top tier trinket

[toxic pewter]

Better than my garbage ball trinket

[ruby solstice]

Any tips on how to deal with the creepers in DFC? that dot they put on you pumps

[chilly brook]

1. move them away from dead mobs

2. don't pull more than one

3. press spell reflect as often as possible

[small steeple]

why this part? haven't read every abilitity yet in new dungeons

[chilly brook]

they gain stacking damage amp per dead body

[ruby solstice]

they eat the bodies of the dead around them