leech secondary when
#protection
tribal wharf
neon elk
also isnt crit like better as col just because of cdr ?
tribal wharf
in vanilla someone claimed int = faster weapon skill
neon elk
btw there was discussion yd ( i guess) about ms talent not stacking with ms gem, but for some reason in my char stats , using dejacharstats addon , it shows them as stacking, is this addon bug, or do they realy stack ? im not sure default char stats shows speed
drowsy narwhal
i dont know what nome had for 1st season in his guide
plush tendon
in vanilla someone claimed int = faster weapon skill
not wrong
drowsy narwhal
so at worst they were put as equals while mass of players were favoring vers over crit
plush tendon
you can also put spellpower gear on
to buff the trinket from Sunken Temple quest
big heals
hollow sphinx
do we play now colossus over mountain thane?
tribal trellis
if our dmg is as broken as it was on ptr i guess so, (just came back from work and tryin to see if all changes made it to live)
simple atlas
I tried looking back in here and checked wowhead, but is this weapon not good?
royal marten
Lack of secondaries is a hard sell
simple atlas
gotcha, didnt know if the proc was good
royal marten
Probably depends on how it ends up simming. "High chance" is doing a lot of heavy lifting
On the other hand, it does look cool, and that's what matters more
chilly brook
lack of secondaries doesn't matter
it's all down to whether the proc is good or not, we've had several no secondaries weapons be our BiS in recent history
strong forum
Well technically
Forgestorm was not actual bis
It just simmed high on average
Emphasis on average
chilly brook
Forgestorm was not actual bis
was in pure ST no?
strong forum
on average
it was severely rppm based
between 1 or 9% of your ST dmg
variance
🙂
solid sun
Last season I was running talents to increase shield block uptime and I noticed this season with the m+ colossus build some different talents are suggested. Making this change to my talent build, I assume I should expect gaps in shield block? Or through haste and proper play should I be expecting no gaps?
chilly brook
gholak was for sure bis bis
chilly brook
Last season I was running talents to increase shield block uptime and I noticed ...
are you referring to into the fray vs heavy repurcussions?
hollow sphinx
I tried looking back in here and checked wowhead, but is this weapon not good?
where did u get it from
simple atlas
where did u get it from
its a raid drop, i dont have it, just havent seen any info on it
dark barn
My overall in a forfun CoT 13, lol... I remember doing like 850~900K last week. Big buffs.
hollow sphinx
anything we can do by now except questing?!
flat wasp
is there a good article or video on the pros and cons of thane vs colossus. Im new and never ran colossus before.
From reading the talents I see:
- Demolish on a 45s CD as a mini defensive CD at start of pulls?
- more AOE dmg
- Better IP
- Fewer shield slams available so more attention needed to maintain Shield Block
Mainly concerned on any downsides Im missing and where Demolish should be used.
dark barn
Demolish should be used almost on CD
unborn island
My overall in a forfun CoT 13, lol... I remember doing like 850~900K last week. ...
Did you time it with that DPS? Always seems tight to me
dark barn
Did you time it with that DPS? Always seems tight to me
Every key of this week is like 2 or 3 levels easier than last week
I timed it with 5 mins left
strong forum
anything we can do by now except questing?!
nop
solid sun
are you referring to into the fray vs heavy repurcussions?
That and also I believe one other talent
I’m not in front of the pc rn so I can’t remember the name but I’m pretty sure there were two talents
tiny atlas
Can someone sum up the key difference in playstyle with Colo vs. Thane?
Just weave in Demolish on cd and thats it?
fickle ingot
unborn island
Every key of this week is like 2 or 3 levels easier than last week
Oh wow
vocal flame
Is there a weak aura to tell us when we have a good amount of stacks to hit demolish or just send it on CD?
cerulean burrow
it glows at 10
vocal flame
ah ok so just push when glowing
solid sun
Are we supposed to wait for the glow
chilly brook
That and also I believe one other talent
unless you have pretty low haste, you shouldn't have large gaps. ITF at higher haste levels fixes your shield block CD pretty well
karmic plinth
just looking at the buildso n wowhead - are thane builds now playing snap induction or is that a mistake on the site
karmic plinth
demo shout giving tb
karmic plinth
i assumed that it was still a no
chrome falcon
you know a talent is straight up fire when nomer doesn't know the name
strong forum
@chilly brook update your talents
strong forum
ight
jagged pier
nomer how does apl use DA btw?
chilly brook
Jokes aside I'll fix my talents again
strong forum
o7
ancient reef
whats best way to farm valorstones before s2 starts, did camp on an alt do i just need to do it all again
strong forum
raid
supple meadow
o7
I'm running heroics under 600 and I had three healers tell me that why am I not taking any damage LMAO
ancient reef
is there a cap this week
strong forum
cap is 2k
strong forum
I'm running heroics under 600 and I had three healers tell me that why am I not ...
well yeah, its a heroic
😄
you dont take damage until like... 12s
supple meadow
I know but I felt great lmao
sacred badge
does the wowhead talent window go all jank for anyone else when you click atab to go to another spec? it goes from nice and readable in one window to very large and eating up tons of vertical space
chilly brook
it does it to me on my laptop
chilly brook
strong forum
ye i see what you mean but for me it only does that for like 0.1sec
sacred badge
it does it on every spec guide tho so I assume it's something to do with Wowhead's backend coding
clear crest
for me it just stays broken after switching tabs
clear crest
i know :) great if you can notify someone
icy flax
I'm running heroics under 600 and I had three healers tell me that why am I not ...
Cutie
formal geyser
How does prot feel?
chilly brook
real
lusty grotto
does the wowhead talent window go all jank for anyone else when you click atab t...
happening to me on firefox
on some tabs, not specifically prot
arms guide has that issue
jagged pier
new patch day always funy
lusty grotto
jagged pier
too bad we only just doing 4 but hey ho
dusky canopy
strong forum
too bad we only just doing 4 but hey ho
I'm so annoyed that my group ain't fullclearing this Saturday...
strong forum
new patch day always funy
Not even r1s... Did you even try?
jagged pier
yer im in a smol group so we aint pumping parses
i did see x2 BB was simming more for me than DA
maybe just a none tier set thing
strong forum
Nono it does sim minimally more
But it plays infinitely worse
Cuz Avatar procs from Da Grant rage
Also no spellblock/instigate
jagged pier
dont have monk buff ither, pretty sure ive been top 10 all kills tho, but i think theres only 10 of us
shy python
/run SetSpecialization(3)
Why does this not work anymore?
strong forum
I just press N
sharp gale
My char got so many crests bc season 1 rep reward gives some, hopefully it’s not so high ilvl
vocal pewter
So ideally we take battering ram until 4pc then swap to ravager?
neon elk
Vice versa
vocal pewter
See that’s what I’m going through LOL
lusty grotto
i totally gaslit myself reading that
strong forum
4 ram piece Battering Ravager then
neon elk
Just take bsv instead to avoid confusion /s
shy python
I just press N
It worked for years.
raw parcel
Damn, gave Colossus a clumsy spin in a key and my damage was waaay higher. Is this an across the board thing because of the prepatch, or just us?
raw parcel
Nice! Colossus is fun! Though I felt less durable than usual, doing big damage is fun.
strong forum
Damn, gave Colossus a clumsy spin in a key and my damage was *waaay* higher. Is ...
Colossus always did more damage, and we got a 26% aura buff + a few other things
oak ivy
I have not made any attempt to comprehend Colossus Prot i just slap it on sometimes for goofy keys and press revenge into the sunset
goes from like ~10% of my dmg in thane to ~40% in colo
normal mica
lf help re demolish: is there a WA to track charges? I know it glows at 10 but id like to track charges
lusty grotto
any WA that tracks colossal might stacks will work
Demolish has no stack data in itself, its all through the Colossal Might buffs
so just wago "colossal might" and youll find some
or make your own
most warrior suites have colossal might tracking also
mighty valley
whenever i played colossus it hit 10 before the cd was up basically always
mighty valley
don't really need to think about stacks
lusty grotto
the first cast is usually with less but whatever
after the first one every cast is a 10 stacker
mighty valley
yeah i'm not sure what was optimal on pull, i usually just did usual rotation + CDs while gathering and then hit demo with however many stacks i'd naturally picked up by the time i was good to plant my feet
sorry. shouldn't say demo
demoLISH
lusty grotto
youll summon funky
strong blaze
With all the unblockable abilities in m+ in s2 will it be worth going Haste/vers over haste/crit
dusk cloak
Colossus fucked on council
lusty grotto
With all the unblockable abilities in m+ in s2 will it be worth going Haste/vers...
too early to say but if youre pushing r1 keys then i would probably say so
that being said with rng walls from tier + IO + DA, youll have a lot of Wall uptime so probably not at the weekly key range
best bet is just a healthy crit/vers split
unborn island
Is the icyveins spec the one to give a blast as a first go on colossus?
glacial lynx
just messing with raidbots is the priory trinket not good for sims but good in practice?
lusty grotto
Is the icyveins spec the one to give a blast as a first go on colossus?
yup
neon elk
He's not working for me in Zekvir
I did it like 8ish hours ago and worked just fine
supple meadow
I was wondering, is there a way to track my shield block uptime without weakauras? ie dragging it down into my FOV. I have a large screen computer with default buff frame
worn basalt
lusty grotto
closest thing in game is what he said
supple meadow
no I mean like, when I press it, and it's in the buff bar, how do I bring it to the level of say my health bar
supple meadow
I have my health bar directly under my toon
uncut sparrow
You move that buff bar in edit mode with stock UI. It’s a mess though.
lusty grotto
yeah that's called the power bar
supple meadow
I just dislike weakauras idk why lol I know everyone swears by them but
lusty grotto
sorry
supple meadow
They just irritate me
lusty grotto
"Personal Resource Display"
lusty grotto
there's no default way to track it other than looking at the buff, and there's no buff management as part of the default ui, so you cant actively separate one buff from the others and move it, etc
supple meadow
yeah that's what I was wanting to do
lusty grotto
can i ask why youre so opposed to weakauras?
supple meadow
I have a 23inch screen so it's kind of far outta my fov
glacial lynx
Just count outloud
cerulean tusk
But you can move WAs around as you want em?
lusty grotto
you can scale stuff around
cerulean tusk
Either way, there is a personal recourse bar in options
lusty grotto
aka resize
supple meadow
I try to use them, and they just feel like... in the way? I know that's the whole purpose
but I guess it's just cause I'm autistic lmfao
lusty grotto
maybe try what funky is saying
cerulean tusk
It is the blizzard bar, so when you move around, or mobs move around you - your bar moves around
it is horrid
but it is baseline in the game
supple meadow
having autism is annoying sometimes because it's irrational bullshit
lusty grotto
bronze locust
They should just add #showtooltip buffid for macro and let it slot in on some bar button
cerulean tusk
Why they dont anchor it, I will never know
supple meadow
like hating weakauras even though it's like literally the best option
lusty grotto
(i have no idea how that works)
cerulean tusk
Turn it on for a sec
then find some dummies, move about
it is horrid man
I swear
tribal wharf
i would rather use blizzard action bars than bartender or some total ui conversion
supple meadow
i would rather use blizzard action bars than bartender or some total ui conversi...
I LOVE edit mode
it feels so good to use imo
lusty grotto
default blizz action bars are fine
cerulean tusk
While I get where you guys are coming from, blizz UI aint there yet
supple meadow
it does exactly what I want lol
tribal wharf
i wish that they had passable EVERYTHING addon, addons that matter like dps meter, threat meter if you go tank mode in retai l
cerulean tusk
I am glad you enjoy the wonky recourse bar - it just gives me a headache
tribal wharf
doesnt have to be amazing, just has to be passable for average noob player
lusty grotto
it'll get there eventually
tribal wharf
who just wants to install vanilla and lesgo
lusty grotto
just dont hold your breath
cerulean tusk
I wont, I given up on blizzard, as it seems to go at a snails pace - when ppl can mod/addon the game in a fraction of the time
Guess the devs are working around a lot of red tape and back-and-forth
lusty grotto
oh no i agree
cerulean tusk
Dont we always
wind prawn
Prot prety damn good. This was from a +10SV on live
tribal wharf
i would rather they do multi threading
first above anything
but i know thats virtually impossible
glacial lynx
Weak auras and add-ons play the game for you. That's why you never see bad players
wind prawn
There is breakdown
tribal wharf
without the aid of a young john carmack/bill gates
solid sun
There is breakdown
Demolish on CD or building stacks first or
cerulean tusk
When you send it on CD, after the 1st use, it got 10 stacks
wind prawn
I did on CD. If was my first time playing Demolish
jagged gust
Demolish looking to be where I expect the utlimate ability to be
In the trash next to Fyralath?
wind prawn
You think they are going to nerf this it seems super strong
solid sun
When you send it on CD, after the 1st use, it got 10 stacks
Oh that's sick. First use is just asap?
jagged gust
You think they are going to nerf this it seems super strong
We're warriors, of course we expect a nerf
cerulean tusk
Oh that's sick. First use is just asap?
You can - but if it is AoE, you can spend the 12 sec on a higher key to build it up revenging/shieldslamming 10 times, basically 10 sec delay as you gather things either way
If ya want, just gather and dont worry about stacks
tropic ferry
Prot prety damn good. This was from a +10SV on live
i did a 10 aswell, i had a couple dead globals especially on the bosses, did u encounter the same? felt superweird just standing there ...
dark barn
You think they are going to nerf this it seems super strong
I'm expecting some damage nerf in prot war, blizz always ruins the fun
wind prawn
Very rarely did i have dead globals. I always had some range to spam revenge
It takes getting used to not just dumping it all into IP
tropic ferry
yeah i thought id might be bad ressource spending on using too much IP
lusty grotto
agreed, you will have dead globals if youre incorrectly spamming IP
yes thats pretty much it
wind prawn
yup
celest glacier
First season playing prot, do we have to go back to not playing into the fray until we get better gear once s2 starts?
lusty grotto
ehh
most of us just swapped already but if you have low haste you might wanna stick to HR
celest glacier
Thanks, that answers it
tribal wharf
We're warriors, of course we expect a nerf
this was in response to they kept wanting him to learn the books for spells
neon elk
Is s2 dungeon pool better or worse for us ? Like bleeds non blockable dmg magic etc etc
tropic ferry
oh and is the way to engage a pull still something like charge slam sb tc revenge eventually ip yadda yadda? i read something around thunderclap not being used as much anymore but i was wondering how that applies after opening, is it just not high on the priority if we go into revenge slam rotation and keeping up mitigation?
lusty grotto
Is s2 dungeon pool better or worse for us ? Like bleeds non blockable dmg magic...
worse
drifting hull
Public opinion is yes, s2 is much worse than s1, but unless you are pushing for title, you will be perfectly serviceable
lusty grotto
oh and is the way to engage a pull still something like charge slam sb tc reveng...
wowhead has an opener section
under rotation
its very handy
you WILL still use TC
mighty valley
oh and is the way to engage a pull still something like charge slam sb tc reveng...
you'll still want to tc kinda early to apply rend and just for tapping everything to have a threat baseline, but mostly you want to use all your offensive CDs early
lusty grotto
you will need to reset SS at certain times, and apply rend
tropic ferry
wowhead has an opener section
yeah i have that opened, i was asking more in the trash pull direction, where snap threat on multiple mobs is important and
Beyond applying Rend, Thunder Clap falls mostly out of the rotation in AoE.
just confused me as in how tc is applied further but its just lower on the priority and to apply rend yeah. sometimes it takes a bit to digest these wowhead guides, cheers
lusty grotto
you will rely more on troar for snap thread
since tc will hit like a wet noodle
and has baseline range
since we dont play Crackling
if MT prio is SS=TB>TC>Rev, Col is SS>Rev>TC - essentially youre swapping the prio between Rev and TC
neon elk
Where do u spend talent from crackling ? No pain no gain? Cuz icy veins m+ build uses crackling iirc
lusty grotto
well
Nome's build doesnt play crackling
regardless TC is not big snap thread, so crackling doesnt matter
as colossus
nome's uses intervene
and rumbling
either is fine
neon elk
Yea i guess thats where the extra point went compared to mine , i got rid of fear for interv , was not too sure about crackling
neon elk
Well looks like rumbling it is, nothing else realy makes sense there
lusty grotto
yeah basically fear, rumbling, intervene are swappable
and crackling (which you dont want as colossus)
shy python
How can I get rid of the 2nd number in the corner? I only wanna see the cd
lusty grotto
is this a WA?
if its pulling from the base game, you cant
thats the IP value
it was put in this patch
im sure someone will figure out a way
but at least not right now
shy python
Okay nice 🙂
mighty valley
you mean duration, not CD right?
shy python
Yeah duration sorry
mighty valley
honestly in realistic situations, the duration won't really matter
it'll either get eaten up or naturally refreshed most of the time
shy python
honestly in realistic situations, the duration won't really matter
I want to try to optimize my revenge spam
lusty grotto
its great for default uis for sure
supple meadow
and that's exactly what I have lol
I just wish messing with the buff bar wasn't so annoying
mighty valley
i never really had a need to pay attention to any facts about IP, interested to see if that's changed when s2 starts
supple meadow
Idk, I'm just trying to be the best tank I can lmao
lusty grotto
yeah i barely track it with colossus anyway
back in s1 and right now
but it is welcome
unlike thane which doesnt need to track it at all
shy python
I found this WA last year and I really like it but it hasn't a duration
lusty grotto
seems fine
vocal cave
I really feel like tank balance is the closest it has ever been, at least for raid
lusty grotto
you can probably edit it and add a duration to it
shy python
you can probably edit it and add a duration to it
Maybe but I really bad in that ^^
lilac basalt
I actually tried if chatgpt can help me with a WA and it was pretty good at it 😀
lusty grotto
understandable Yanthir
mighty valley
i dunno but he seems to have good opinions
tribal wharf
so, i dunno who it was, but i was talking to someone about 2001 space odessy
tribal wharf
nd i said something like im a nerd, but i never watched it
im watching it now okay
and the acid trip, cuz, lets be real thats what it is, at the end
is like, wtf, and forever
and the rest is okay except for the music video parts
like its beavis and butthead for nerds
im trying to give the movie honest shot, and uh, im not sure, also cuz gpt, hal 900 both ais
tribal wharf
bit spoopy end not lie
unless it changes
what u mean agi, im not actual ai person
lusty grotto
artificial general intelligence
mighty valley
current LLMs work by reading a ton of shit from the internet and using that to guess what the next word you'd like to see is
lusty grotto
chatgpt, copilot, deepsink are just large scale language model chatbots, thats all they are limited to
tribal wharf
point is, it sucks at video game knowledge lots of the times
ask it about doom or wow
mighty valley
tech industry investors would like you to believe that if we do that enough, they will become AGI, or a genuinely sentient computer
lusty grotto
yeah but on very specific things like WA help it might actually give out decent suggestions, like Ulimn says
as it stands chatgpt is just another way to do GoogleFu
more straightforward, etc
tribal wharf
lusty grotto
less steps required
mighty valley
it is but that's easy, right, it can just pull from the billion wow guides on the internet
lusty grotto
mighty valley
actually it's wrong, they're flamewakers not flamewalkers
gottem
and garr is surrounded by earth elementals, not fire elementals
it is accurately describing how interesting molten core fights are though
tribal wharf
do i have to watch to post credits of this for easter eg or whatever
prefer not to if i dont gotta
mighty valley
no... they don't typically have post credit scenes in movies from the 60s
tribal wharf
well, that was different
mighty valley
you should watch Dr Strangelove next
tribal wharf
best zombie movie of all time, return of living dead
everyone dies, ends with nuke
doesnt work
small steeple
Shaun of the dead
tribal wharf
i prefer my aliens and zombie movies where they shoot them
rather than not do that
return 3 is pretty good too
unborn island
Gabe colossus a blast in ak14. 1.4 overall. Sure some of you were doing more last season, but I can't push my buttons good. Spec will take some getting used to, as will non-infinite rage but I must say smashing for 6+m is satisfying
paper beacon
sharp gale
best zombie movie of all time, return of living dead
there was a movie with zombie beavers, does it count ?
paper beacon
HMMMMM
idle copper
am getting about 70% uptime on ignore pain - does that seem about right?
supple meadow
am getting about 70% uptime on ignore pain - does that seem about right?
I mean I get about 60-70% on average I don't even know if that's good or not
supple meadow
understandable
that makes me feel better about hitting it as much
I go with the thing of between 60-80 rage just dump some in it
lusty grotto
as long as youre not rage starving yourself with its usage and/or with revenge usage, its fine
supple meadow
shield slam and revenge are my top dps
lusty grotto
what
supple meadow
yes?
idle copper
Revenge and demonlish is mine for Colossus
lusty grotto
that sound very wrong
supple meadow
LOL
lusty grotto
how are they beating thunder blasts
lusty grotto
you are
mighty valley
you should barely ever have a chance to press revenge on thane lol
lusty grotto
youre playing it like it was colossus
mighty valley
well more than before I guess with the slight decrease in ss resets
supple meadow
I was told to fish for ss resets with thunderclap/blast and revenge
I mean it hasn't not worked for me yet
lusty grotto
as thane you only use revenge when SS or TC are on cd
sharp gale
you should barely ever have a chance to press revenge on thane lol
but you get if he took barbaric training .... it does free 25% more
lusty grotto
doesnt matter
supple meadow
I'd have to look but that sounds familiar
mighty valley
I was told to fish for ss resets with thunderclap/blast and revenge
this is true but for thane tb/tc are just better fishing buttons when they’re not on cd
supple meadow
that makes sense tbh
mighty valley
plus blast… blasts
sharp gale
but yeah i doubt it woud surpass thunder
supple meadow
it just kept working so I didn't question it
sharp gale
i'll try a key now as thane
mighty valley
in general you want to press generators over spenders to keep the engine going
colossus just gets such insane revenge damage that it changes the equation
supple meadow
yeah I mean I was only rage starved and very little times, in overworld content
like I said I just kept pressing buttons and it just kept working 💀💀
mighty valley
in the overworld you can do whatever
mighty valley
well you’re not if you’re pressing revenge over tc, right
lusty grotto
actually youre right, Happy
revenge actually did go up at least in sims
but it still doesnt beat blasts
supple meadow
idk man again like I said I don't even know
I just kept pressing buttons and it just kept working
everything was fluid and decent
supple meadow
I don't even know
lusty grotto
the game wont auto close if youre playing wrong
mighty valley
it’s all good! it’s just a lil weird if rev is your top damage as thane and this is prob a thing to get better at as you push higher
supple meadow
I can't explain it to you
mighty valley
but you’re doing the most important thing: pressing hella buttons
sharp gale
revenge actually did go up at least in sims
i tried to do a top gear on my dk, it was saying it misses item infos, maybe you know what gone wrong (if it's a common new patch bug)
lusty grotto
This is mine
wrong talents, wrong sim for AOE
supple meadow
I did a patchwerk
lusty grotto
5 target patchwerk 1.5 mins
lusty grotto
right
supple meadow
sec
supple meadow
I got that from nome himself
mighty valley
also I don’t think it’s worth almost any ilvl upgrade to wear a non plate piece, grab a crafted off the ah
supple meadow
🤷♂️ idk man I didn't swap anything
supple meadow
also I don’t think it’s worth almost any ilvl upgrade to wear a non plate piece,...
I didn't even know it was a non plate piece tbh I was super tired
lusty grotto
even at the same ilvl
mighty valley
I didn't even know it was a non plate piece tbh I was super tired
lol all good, think I did that while leveling in tww launch
supple meadow
Here's the sim you said to do
lusty grotto
still bad talents
supple meadow
yeah I have the one
lusty grotto
which should be the same
supple meadow
in my talents in game
I have both
I got that one from nome and I have the one he put on the website too
he just swapped around talents
lusty grotto
shrug i dont know the context for what nome recommended
supple meadow
It was for another guy and I decided to try it out too lol
lusty grotto
regardless this was about showing you why SS and Rev shouldn't be your top damage
as thane
lusty grotto
yarr
round cliff
how come Renzik "The Shiv" <SI:7 Operative> isnt voiced
weird indie company type shit
sharp gale
lusty grotto
how come Renzik "The Shiv" <SI:7 Operative> isnt voiced
ive been asking myself the same thing
earnest nymph
shrug i dont know the context for what nome recommended
Iirc I’m guessing it was the “play the spec for you” build nome posted the other day
lusty grotto
i see
sharp gale
the dungeons have really fucked scaling, i forgot to kite the second boss of grim, nothing happened (in 10 )
lusty grotto
haha
sharp gale
my hp didn't even moved
lusty grotto
interesting
sharp gale
i think it's just the scaling is made for the next dungeons in my big guessing
round cliff
cant u only do normal rn?
lusty grotto
but player power increased significantly due to all the changes
round cliff
are u guys turning ur car with A/D or the mouse
lusty grotto
either or both
round cliff
A/D feels more like mario kart and therefore better but my boost button is bound to my mouse so it feels weird not to use my mouse
lusty grotto
but the car feels so fucking horrible to use with the lag in the zone
round cliff
car feels kinda immune to lag other than the boost
lusty grotto
i highly dislike it
maybe it'll feel better when the zone shards are less congested
supple meadow
but the car feels so fucking horrible to use with the lag in the zone
you can have a slower engine with higher acceleration
they give you two engines for free
lusty grotto
🤷♂️
sharp gale
are u guys turning ur car with A/D or the mouse
i can't turn my char with A/D eheh
lusty grotto
same
lusty grotto
yup
sharp gale
ah with the car i thought you mispelled char (typo) sry
round cliff
no i say toon because im fuckin old
sharp gale
idk both for now, i think A/D seems better for the CAR but i'm used to move with mouse my char
round cliff
idk if theres a way to rebind my car controls while leaving my regular hotbar untouched
prob not
neon elk
@lusty grotto yo bro, when u said s2 dungs are worse for us , is it that bad ? Like will i regret going war ? Keys around 12-14 , also comunity perception kinda matters to me as i mostly pug
sharp gale
no i say toon because im fuckin old
i never said toon, it makes me think about Looney Tunes
round cliff
does free revenge take prio over tclap in st as colo?
thinking about it from a show of force perspective
wind prawn
Low = can't cast revenge 🙂
sharp gale
i was going to say "cant cast revenge" too x)
neon elk
but the pool doesnt favor us as much as s1 dungeon pool did
Welp , apart from like ML 3rd boss , is there anything super scarry?
lusty grotto
likely
lusty grotto
you wanna cast TC when your SS is on CD and youre low on rage
or
when you wanna refresh rend
thats kind of the gist of it
and with it you get a free 10% buff
sharp gale
doesnt the api say 70 or did they update it
isn't it about dumping into IP the 70 thing ?
neon elk
where tf is the red recolor for this set
Isnt it delves?
sharp gale
Isnt it delves?
delves is black one
round cliff
well i want the black one too
sharp gale
where tf is the red recolor for this set
i have the purple chest
it's my veteran piece i looted from the weekly chest
queen hemlock
hey there, surely this has been asked quite a few times but how would prot warrior be this season?
lots of tier lists stated we aint that good due to high constant magic and dot damage
sharp gale
hey there, surely this has been asked quite a few times but how would prot warri...
tbh every tanks seems stonks from what i'm trying (damage wise)
small steeple
does free revenge take prio over tclap in st as colo?
m+ build or raid build? Because raid build will take the execute version
queen hemlock
getting hit wise?
i really dont wanna end up as second rate due to shit melting my ass lul
round cliff
m+ build or raid build? Because raid build will take the execute version
are we def doing execute build over punish build? i do punish build cuz im shit
sharp gale
getting hit wise?
i really dont wanna end up as second rate due to shit melting ...
you will be second rate because only 1 tank can be meta
lusty grotto
same rules as s1 lol
small steeple
are we def doing execute build over punish build? i do punish build cuz im shit
its more damage but I mean sudden death i sstill better in single target
queen hemlock
oof
round cliff
its more damage but I mean sudden death i sstill better in single target
oh
im in m+ build rn
supple meadow
where tf is the red recolor for this set
The red recolor is the pvp aspirant set
round cliff
The red recolor is the pvp aspirant set
gdi to i have to pvp to get my warhammer armor
i dont wanna switch off prot
sharp gale
aspirant is the honor one right ?
supple meadow
gdi to i have to pvp to get my warhammer armor
I knew someone else thought it was Warhammer related
round cliff
I knew someone else thought it was Warhammer related
wow goblins are ork-coded
supple meadow
red makes everything faster
round cliff
cant convince me otherwise
supple meadow
purple is for sneaky
sharp gale
I knew someone else thought it was Warhammer related
i thought the nathria plate armor was also warhammer related
supple meadow
smol lady fox
sharp gale
supple meadow
but she zug like the best of them
supple meadow
gives me khorne vibes
sharp gale
gives me khorne vibes
chosen from fantasy / undivided chaos
round cliff
but she zug like the best of them
i play THE most generic maghar orc warrior there is
with the heritage and the tusks and the u know
supple meadow
i play THE most generic maghar orc warrior there is
Red skin ass
sharp gale
supple meadow
Nah maghar is tight
round cliff
Nah maghar is tight
unapologetic horde player
sharp gale
gnome
supple meadow
I'll send my mog when I get on
sharp gale
i play only gnomes
lusty grotto
gnomes are baller
sharp gale
i was so glad when i saw cinderbrew buff is GNOME HELL YEAAAAAH
round cliff
cinderbrew buff?
sharp gale
like season 1 some dungeons have buffs
round cliff
lmao
lusty grotto
chef nimchip to the rescue
round cliff
i love cinderbrew
lusty grotto
cinderbrew is def a banger
supple meadow
I like cleft more than cinderbrew
sharp gale
idk i didn't play it yet (i didn't ptr and i don't count normal as playing a dungeon)
round cliff
i like cleft too
supple meadow
theatre of pain is my favorite
sharp gale
no route needed ahh
supple meadow
unapologetic horde player
i finally got on lol
errant wagon
2m broken overall on a +9 key 😂
I will enjoy this week while it lasts
strong forum
Tbf warlock and mage really don't get to do dmg in those keys, everything dies before they even start
errant wagon
oh yeah it was all gas no brakes
things died to me + pally before they really even get there
I've ran this build, almost identical talent tree besides the swap to Instigate, many times through S1 and never got anywhere close to this though. The tuning is just whack rn
neon elk
Imagine that with monk and enha
errant wagon
Yes.... we can go higher
strong forum
I've ran this build, almost identical talent tree besides the swap to Instigate,...
I mean
All tanks got buffed by 15-20% flat
We got buffed by 26% cuz of some nerfs and back and forth
- a talent fixed which was prior unplayable
On average I did 1.4-1.6mil dps as Colossus with my best being 1.8mil in s1
So it's not too wild to see people breaking 2mil, I just didn't expect people to do it day 1 :d
errant wagon
Ahh, fair. I sorta completely negletected the flat buff 😅 .
I just saw a big number and got excited.
- a talent fixed which was prior unplayable
Which talent is that?
strong forum
Barbaric Training
sharp gale
I did 1.5 m in grim just before as thane, I’ll try col tomorrow idk if it’s a good dungeon for overalls
sharp gale
Yeah I was looking for more avreage dungeon, I think grim is
sharp gale
Isn’t dawn same lvl as boralus ? Lowest overalls ? It’s been quite a time I didn’t tank these
sharp gale
Okok
strong forum
Like has a good mix tbh
Of 3-5mob pulls, a handful of 8+
Grim is always 5+
SV is 6-15
Mists is 5 average I wanna say
NW is 5-15 aswell
sharp gale
And if you played at which key lvl it start to hurt a little bit again ? I facetanked throngus kite in 10
sharp gale
I’ll see tomorrow thanks, I want at least to try colossus in a lvl that punish mistakes
strong forum
Didn't rly do many keys above weekly level but couldn't notice a difference between a 10 and a 14 when I did do them
Except that my dps were dying to bosses
neon elk
Do we know what new season should feel like with curent gear ?
supple meadow
@lusty grotto i fixed my talents
lean frigate
is colossus better for prot this season?
strong forum
Do we know what new season should feel like with curent gear ?
Should be chill
strong forum
is colossus better for prot this season?
It does significantly more dmg than thane in m+ and the defensive difference is much smaller than in s1
supple meadow
i was hitting 1mil bursts with my 603 thane idk if thats good but it feels good lol
wooden spruce
so now we go Colossus instead of thunderclapping cheeks?
because i played it a while today and it does nice damage but it feels so slow, i like my schizophrenic playstyle with Thane
neon elk
Should be chill
Like this seasons 12s will be on par with next 8-9 or ? Idk how hard buffs and nerf hit in combination with K values
lusty grotto
its roughly the same
strong forum
I just know it'll be chill cuz it always is
lusty grotto
10=10 12=12
except for the fact that challenger's peril goes up (to 12, from 7 in s1) and guile has no more 10% flat hp/dmg
neon elk
Yea but first week 10s should be chill then
lusty grotto
the only change is after 12, key scaling is "slower"
ehhh
depends on gearing
should be doable sure
but early gearing also plays a factor
earnest nymph
colossus is nuts in m+
do you just TC to apply rend and then not use it anymore after?
sharp gale
Yea but first week 10s should be chill then
We also start lower (if you were a stinker before season 1 m+, you had to wait a +7 to equip an item)
earnest nymph
TCing for an SS reset when low rage
makes sense, I think I was mostly doing that
dmg is nuts though. I know we got the like 20% aura buff to damage or whatever it was but my overall is like 60% higher than it was with MT prior to the new patch
jagged gust
Anyone know if there's any benefit to raiding/m+ by doing the new storyline or can I just skip it in it's entirety without missing anything besides an enchanted crest I'll never use?
lusty grotto
im pretty sure you wont miss much
jagged gust
I read something about a new augment rune but not sure of the specifics or if it's tied to renown or anything
sharp gale
Idk maybe there is a story mode unlock after X week but who cares (the quest that gave us the thing to craft I don’t remember a lot)
jagged gust
I can't even find any info googling it so maybe it was just another rumor?
sharp gale
Anyone know if there's any benefit to raiding/m+ by doing the new storyline or c...
You can stack some valorstones or dogshit crests with the weeklies
dry cobalt
The augment rune stuff is in the raid renown
lusty grotto
interesting
sharp gale
I have like 200 carved crests rn (around 30/90 for the cap)
jagged gust
Oh god I forgot about valorstones, got too used to being capped for the past 3 months lol
jagged gust
Well at least your google-fu is stronger than mine, thanks nim
lusty grotto
ehhh i wouldnt have found it if it wasnt for Umbrella Girl's comment
jagged gust
teamwork makes the dream work
lusty grotto
earnest nymph
does the second revenge strike from reverberations also have a chance to refund 50% rage cost?
jagged gust
Well turns out it was all for naught since you get teleported out of the zone if you don't do the questline 😦
lyric fern
helping a friend level through dungeons and hit this juicer demolish crit
rain light
sharp gale
You know we will get damage nerfed like 100%
lyric fern
yeah ppl are going to see our damage this week and complain probably
"this prot tank in my group outdamaged me in my +8 today blizz wtf?"
toxic pewter
Giga warr nerfs are coming
sharp gale
But yeah they are right to complain, I was more trying to tell him not to plan to play a spec because it is abnormal OP (damage wise for prot)
celest glacier
trying to have my fun while i can
rn you pretty much body mediocre dps players lol
sharp gale
Have more that type of spirit yeah 👍
wicked pollen
guys wtf is prot warrior
sharp gale
guys wtf is prot warrior
I said there will be nerfs in fury chat this Friday
I didn’t say which spec
mortal cypress
guys wtf is prot warrior
please delete this
sharp gale
And you beat them not by small amount, does the packs live enough so that’s not just burst damage ?
wicked pollen
the packs lived long enough
neon elk
Mage didnt get much chance to dps i guess and dk is 20 ilvls below
sharp gale
How do you have so much more uptime than them ?
sharp gale
Like they died ?
sharp gale
I think I can facetank throngus kite in 13, I’ll try tomorrow, the scaling is a joke
wicked pollen
yeah the scaling is disgusting
sharp gale
I forgot the mech in the 10 I tried in thane, no cd at all, hp doesn’t move
neon elk
Maybe u just parried them all?
sharp gale
Im not parrygodx
tropic pond
do we can still get io?
cause im running this key with buffed warrior, it's so op lol
sharp gale
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YTpHqCMZPr2NBXbw?fight=last&type=damage-don...
The more I look at the log the more I’m disturbed because I mostly did keys in bdk today, and I was also 3rd dps or close, but bc dps were so lower than past week
My bdk is like 620 ilvl
wicked pollen
idk how to do damage on bdk
sharp gale
I don’t know how to play bdk too (I started Monday bdk bc now I’m no longer a rogue for guild raid but a fucking bdk)
That’s why I think there is something wrong with every tank or every dps
urban bane
I don’t know how to play bdk too (I started Monday bdk bc now I’m no longer a ro...
:(
hope you like death gripping
sharp gale
hope you like death gripping
I’m afraid of kyvesa next monday
small steeple
You know we will get damage nerfed like 100%
only thing is gonna be the demolish buff that was intended for arms that prot got to. Which will only be lik 2% single target, and 4-5% aoe
sharp gale
only thing is gonna be the demolish buff that was intended for arms that prot go...
I think it will be more than a 5% nerf to AoE dmg, but as said there is a tank dmg topic, I have fun but Idk I’m too uncertain it will stay like that
small steeple
I think it will be more than a 5% nerf to AoE dmg, but as said there is *a tank ...
@strong forum has agreed the demeolish change being reverted will be about 4-5% in aoe
celest glacier
it's nice we can grab disrupting shout easier
jagged gust
Nah, you can never be wrong when dooming
restive oak
just did an all tank 12 ara, i was ahead of the others by alot lol
errant wagon
just did an all tank 12 ara, i was ahead of the others by alot lol
Sign me up for a 5-prot warrior run
sharp gale
If you are EU this evening I can do some tank keys
errant wagon
NA 😔
wicked pollen
yeah but its eep time xan
idle needle
man
polar storm
does anyone have a wa for shield block uptime
mighty flame
do you guys wait with demolish for 10 stacks or send on CD? i have mainly in single target scenarios little bit issue of building stacks, also some tips for rage generation in single target, im strugling to keep IP at max 😦
jagged pier
I dunno what your doing but it s at 10 stacks everytime it comes off cd for me
neon elk
Maybe he has like super low haste or something ? Also im not quite sure u are supposed to maintain IP at max especialy at ST
clear crest
what would i drop for disrupting shout in the m+ build?
jagged pier
What does you build look like
jagged pier
Bloodsurge or show of force
clear crest
thanks. was thinking the same
restive oak
key scaling such a joke rn
chilly brook
@strong forum is your WA supposed to be missing avatar on it?
weird
reimported and it's proper now
idle copper
Anyone find they are now sitting without a global to press? Feels weird
livid meteor
Yeah in st I feel that sometimes
sharp steppe
quick question, why did we go from 1 minute wall to 2 charges of wall?
sharp gale
quick question, why did we go from 1 minute wall to 2 charges of wall?
The other talent gave more rage per shield slam, it is no longer the case
sharp steppe
The other talent gave more rage per shield slam, it is no longer the case
i see, ty
sharp steppe
Da also reduces the cd of wall by 60 seconds now
well thats an interesting change lol, tyvm for answers ❤️
jagged pier
fossil vapor
untill the big nerf that will come warrior are prob the best tank for m+ high tier? (19-19)
jagged pier
No
We do slightly more damage than prot pala, and have none of its utility
Well worse utility
mild river
untill the big nerf that will come warrior are prob the best tank for m+ high ti...
We just have that rn: dps
jagged pier
We dont even have more dps than other tanks, druids in ST right now do around the same
jagged pier
Ppl just blew there top seeing a screenshot of sims when for 4 tanks the sims werent even finished
Ppl have also forgot the reason why they put warrior so low and it was nothing to do with damage, its all unblockabke spell damage and bleeds next season
That hasnt changed
fossil shore
Quick question, MT oder Colossus, which specc is better in m+?
sharp gale
Yeah the damage topic is for other tanks too, it’s just the frontline is prot war for now it seems
And on top of the m+ scaling right now, average people do low keys and instant damage/whatever you call it specs shines bright
tulip oar
Did a couple keys as prot last night. Oh man I hate the rage starvation of Colossus. Great damage, but way too slow and a lot harder to maintain shield block and IP.
I hope Thane isn't as bad.
proud cosmos
i just made a +13 and the colossus tank was doing more dps that our DPS DK
tulip oar
But your over spending as colossus if thats happening too u
"Soending"?
tulip oar
i just made a +13 and the colossus tank was doing more dps that our DPS DK
Yeah, I beat the Warlock in a Stonevaults.
sharp steppe
another, question: After a couple of keys on colossus since this patch i do feel rage starved sometimes. is there a gameplay related reason for it? not the best key but maybe im doing something just generally wrong: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4FB9kWtNVGDRZm7x?fight=last&type=damage-done
violet jetty
How many stacks of Colossal Might should I optimally send Demolish on? I think it uses 5 but I can stack up to 10? So should I always make sure I have 5 as a minimum?
sharp gale
Did a couple keys as prot last night. Oh man I hate the rage starvation of Colos...
What I did in grim 10 as thane yesterday (regular route packs)
tulip oar
So Thane is cranking dps as well. Interesting.
sharp gale
My bdk too
red tree
20% flat buff is huge
sharp gale
I have 620 I’m close to other dps (1 m ish overall for now)
And idk what I’m doing as blood
tulip oar
I wanted to test this new build, but I just do not like it over Thane.
sharp gale
I think a lot are on the BROKEN hype train, clap prot is kinda the most fun imo, I like col too tho, not as much (I only played s1 col yet for context, I will see this evening)
hollow sphinx
do delves gives now a higher reward than in s1?
tulip oar
Not yet, from what I've been told.
karmic plinth
I think a lot are on the BROKEN hype train, clap prot is kinda the most fun imo,...
the big diff is just that col can squeeze out a lot more dam but has a bit more mindfullness of rage spend
hot orbit
Noobish question.
From what i ve understood: Colossus big dam but rage starving so it s difficult to have SB and IP always up. MT less dmg but more rage for mitigation. So, what s the point of playing Colossus instead MT? Is the dmg gap worth it?
karmic plinth
the dmg gap is worth it
col cant spam ip as much but it has a bigger IP and u have the extra DR and increased critblock
u will prio being able to send revenge over being able to keep ip up all the time
pseudo matrix
Did a stonevault +10 colussus prot needs a buff its kinda weak
ionic fern
Noobish question.
From what i ve understood: Colossus big dam but rage starving ...
It's honestly a balancing act. Knowing when you can spam Revenge and when you need to keep some Rage for IP will be crucial. This is somewhat lessened by playing IO and the new tier set.
hot orbit
It's honestly a balancing act. Knowing when you can spam Revenge and when you ne...
Ok. It s not a brainless spec. I ve to decide where to spend the few rage.
Right?
sharp gale
Basically you don’t have infinite rage anymore
hot orbit
Ok guys. Thank you all
sharp gale
You kinda have to practice to know when you can double revenge or whatever rage spend choice, with the remaining duration of shield block, your rage, the IP, shield charge remaining cd etc
pseudo matrix
It s impossibile to see something like that 😆
that was absolutely wild though a fucking tank spec going above 2 mil overall
it will def get a nerf bat probably next week
supple meadow
I think a lot are on the BROKEN hype train, clap prot is kinda the most fun imo,...
zappy is too fun and audibly appealing
I have a buddy who's deaf and the fact he can't hear wow sounds is criminal
unborn island
Anyone know if the 'S1 score' they will show in S2 will include keys from this week? I.e for pugging should I cheese my score up?
jagged pier
I dont think u get score any more titles locked at least
shy python
I dont think u get score any more titles locked at least
I got a +2 to my score from a 10 key yesterday.
tulip oar
Titles are locked. Everything you get added this week will only be shown in "post season" tab
hot orbit
"Mythic+ Keystones Will Reset to +2 On Season 2 Launch" i don t understand what does it means...I know what it literally means... but I don't understand the meaning XD
lofty warren
means you get anything until next week
hot orbit
Ah... maybe "if you have a key 10 in bag, it will become a +2 on season launch day" ?
sharp gale
"Mythic+ Keystones Will Reset to +2 On Season 2 Launch" i don t understand what ...
Usually when a new season launch you get (when you open your vault) a key 1-2-3 lvl below what you completed the week before
Now it’s everyone gets a +2 (what I understood)
ruby berry
That is correct. Everyone gets, at max, a level 2 keystone next Tuesday.
vapid slate
So is our build relatively the same? I feel like im generating so much less rage but idk what i could change
jagged pier
Thats kind of the point of the changes, but updated builds can be found on wowhead or icyveins
vapid slate
yeah, i figured just feels like im in slow mo
wanted to know if there was something to drop and if picking something else would be worth it
cerulean tusk
So with the buffs, and I used to do 1.4m, I am gonna do around 2m right? 
sharp gale
So with the buffs, and I used to do 1.4m, I am gonna do around 2m right? <:detec...
But slower
toxic gyro
Anyone taking bets they will nerf pwar’s dmg just so we can watch some other tanks do the same or more dmg?
cerulean tusk
That do be a classic
sharp gale
Anyone taking bets they will nerf pwar’s dmg just so we can watch some other tan...
Is it really a bet ? (Saturday 2 am CEST / whenever surprise blueposts appears )
cerulean tusk
If they Nerf us, then BDK will surpass us instantly. VDH pumps too, last I had did 1.6m overall
Any Nerf will basically nail us down and away from meta
long bone
Would tanking a Heroic dungeon today paint a clear picture of how tanking M+ next week will feel like? I havent played since they made the rage nerf change
cerulean tusk
Now we got a fair shot
sharp gale
All tanks nerf imo
toxic gyro
Is it really a bet ? (Saturday 2 am CEST / whenever surprise blueposts appears )
I’ll throw 100k on it. I have ptsd with warrior getting nerfed in my long wow history.
cerulean tusk
Would tanking a Heroic dungeon today paint a clear picture of how tanking M+ nex...
Just do some m+, 15-16 is an old 12 ish
sharp gale
I’ll throw 100k on it. I have ptsd with warrior getting nerfed in my long wow hi...
And I can add 50k for the jackpot - full house : all 3 warriors spec
cerulean tusk
Guess I will throw in the 150k against
toxic gyro
If they Nerf us, then BDK will surpass us instantly. VDH pumps too, last I had d...
They do, but people will complain about warrior on forums with random ss like one someone posted where dps sucked ass and did less dmg than a tank.
cerulean tusk
Ye i know
toxic gyro
And I can add 50k for the jackpot - full house : all 3 warriors spec
50k bonus that arms 100% eats a nerf.
sharp gale
50k bonus that arms 100% eats a nerf.
I mean the 3 specs takes a nerf together in the same bluepost
toxic gyro
sharp gale
And yes I prefer pre dooming than post crying
toxic gyro
https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-were-in-this-together-work-together-le...
I used to believe that until I invited recently fellow warrior to stonevault and he died on first boss saying he didn’t have cd for beams+shatter combo
I think he forgot dstance, reflect, iv are a thing
He was 8/8m too. Mythic scene must be rough these days lol.
sharp gale
I do take warriors on purpose in 10s but yeah dps ones are special sometime, I consider them my battle pet so I don’t mind
toxic gyro
I invited few to rat 10s when I was carrying my groups alts, and all the fellow warriors were a letdown
sharp gale
He was 8/8m too. Mythic scene must be rough these days lol.
I just did my first CE on nerubar, it is not that special if you kill it like me in January
Very average players
tawdry fjord
I am just waiting for blue post..I dont believe there is no way ever, that blizzard wont nerf us again
or revert the change
sharp gale
Just don’t disband before the end and the CE will be yours tbh
tawdry fjord
they hate warriors
toxic gyro
I just did my first CE on nerubar, it is not *that* special if you kill it like ...
I see. I stopped mythic raiding in SL.
sharp gale
I see. I stopped mythic raiding in SL.
My guild did 500-600 pulls on tindral and fyrak
idle copper
Just do some m+, 15-16 is an old 12 ish
Is the Rio counting as seasonal score?
sharp gale
Still it died lol
raw parcel
I'm struggling to maintain full shield block uptime with ItF. I'm only managing 93% uptime against dummies. What haste level does one need for it to become comfortable maintaining it closer to 100%?
cerulean tusk
Is the Rio counting as seasonal score?
I presume not, title is locked in already tho
toxic gyro
My guild did 500-600 pulls on tindral and fyrak
Wasn’t tindral THE guild disbander?
cerulean tusk
I'm struggling to maintain full shield block uptime with ItF. I'm only managing ...
If so, don't use ITF till you got more haste baseline
Better safe than sorry
Better always have overcap on block, than downtime
sharp gale
Wasn’t tindral THE guild disbander?<:keks:936231610850897992>
Idk I was not playing wow really, I think the second boss was something for the « hc guilds that try mythic and disband » idk if someone know more
raw parcel
Think maybe swapping to a haste flask instead of crit could make up the difference?
sharp gale
I'm struggling to maintain full shield block uptime with ItF. I'm only managing ...
On which thing you watch the uptime ? Bc the important part is unblocked melees
You can swap to haste flask yes if you think you might be over the cap to ITF but not sure and do a key to see
cerulean tusk
He dummy testing, so static
cerulean tusk
Downtime in a key? Smh
Gotta chain more
All this season's dungs are pretty bad for chaining tho
S2 when
tawny briar
Playing collosus for the first time since the changes, when going into a pull without any stacks do I hold demolish or just send it on CD?
sharp gale
Some dungeons have more than others, that’s why you can feel having harder time fo SB if you really have just reached ItF haste
cerulean tusk
I usually build some stacks as I gather and send, to get it on CDR faster
cerulean tusk
Mist gates force downtime, boss RP and so on
idle copper
Playing collosus for the first time since the changes, when going into a pull wi...
Others have said have at least 3 stacks which should be easy to do gathering mobs up
tawny briar
Cool Thanks
I was a thane enjoyer in season 1 and collosus feels weird. Gotta hit TC less, break the muscle memory
sharp gale
And it’s just a first pack thing no ? Until the end you always have stacks for the next demolish ? Been a long time I didn’t play col
tawny briar
I mean there will be issues in live keys. RP/deaths/wipes etc
