kinda
#protection
strong forum
as colossus, yeah
thats where you will lose most of your dmg
is by needing to IP manually
ye
but given that IP was buffed by 30%
colossus doing high dmg
ye thats w/e then
cerulean burrow
was gonna say im sitting here like "if i try to both manually press ignore pain and shield block i run out of rage but if i only use shield block on cd im good" an the only windows i can manually press IP is like if i pop cds and get a bunch of rage for free
or else im just sitting there rageless like a loser
cerulean tusk
Why press IP, when you can cast revenge 
strong forum
Thane is easier because you dont spend rage as frequently on revenge
and so most of it goes into IP
as colossus you gotta use a bit more brain
cerulean burrow
yeah im definitely seeing that
silent vessel
i was just looking at wowhead talent builds for season 2
and it somehow links to the paladin guide
cerulean burrow
and thunderclap unless my talents are wrong only generates 5 rage so the real only generator is shield slam outside of the bigger cds like avatar and demoralizing shout and shit
strong forum
ye thats an issue if youre specifically on the s2 section
silent vessel
oh i see
strong forum
should be fixed soontm
cyan bronze
why cast ip if im not going to get one shot or overcap
isn’t that my healers job?
don’t want to step on toes
cyan bronze
and thunderclap unless my talents are wrong only generates 5 rage so the real on...
tc is ass on colossus
better than a dead gcd but
supple meadow
So can I still play thane up to ksh/m?
ionic fern
Easily.
strong forum
thane is as good as ever
supple meadow
I'm already smol
cerulean tusk
Soon this would be a #1
supple meadow
female vulpera
kekw
and I love the idea of a smol lady fox tanking
it's super funny
strong forum
Soon this would be a #1
i raise you this from december
upbeat yoke
@strong forum what was the key lvl? Just to be sure 😁
cerulean tusk
12-14 ish? Looks about right
supple meadow
nome stat padding in 0s
strong forum
just a weekly 11
supple meadow
kekw
cerulean tusk
11? Hm, NW?
strong forum
ye
cerulean tusk
Aight, fair
small steeple
I thought dogshit haste was anything below 17k+?
upbeat yoke
Still sick 😁
strong forum
I thought dogshit haste was anything below 17k+?
ye
supple meadow
It's pretty bad that I can tell it was NW too from just the color of the screenshot
💀💀
strong forum
i mean yeh
cerulean tusk
supple meadow
I play this game too much
strong forum
Still sick 😁
tbf didnt even try to go for max dam... it just happened to end up at that
could prolly go over 2mil in a 12
small steeple
i raise you this from december
What key lvl was this?
strong forum
11
but yeah with 11.1 it should be quite easy to hit way over 2mil in s1 keys before s2 starts
gna need to do 14/15s to have stuff not die too quickly
void oak
what we are gonna play colossus or thane next season?
cyan bronze
@strong forum yes im aware streamers are often misinformed
however
how does the spear+roar build Kira was playing sim?
awful?
wait he played no io
nocturne spindle
oh my god am i reading this right
is that
a rank trinket
tank trinket*
in S tier
chilly brook
wouldn't be the first time
won't be the last
Blizz can make good tank trinkets, they just often choose not to
cyan bronze
which one?
cerulean tusk
we got alchemist stone if nothing else :)
lusty grotto
alchemist kidney stone
cyan bronze
oh tome is barely a tank trinket
ig
the magic shield portion is a lot tho tbf but you always play for dmg w it
@strong forum how much magic shielding is tome?
meaningful on smth like motherlode boss?
strong forum
It can do crazy amounts of magic absorb, but yeah those bosses aren't scary from what I saw
strong forum
Both 3rd and 4th boss are pure magic dmg
cyan bronze
not a lot of dmg that’s all magic
cyan bronze
ye that’s where I was wondering
strong forum
Will certainly recommend it in motherload
strong forum
It does
cyan bronze
vaguely
it does
you have rather high control of what you have
as hits increase yes
you have less control
strong forum
It automatically swaps after 50stacks
Which on ST
Takes usually 90seconds
Which is exactly the cd to force swap
🙂
cyan bronze
on st you should be able to maintain full uptime
above that it’s worse
but I think it has a icd?
strong forum
750ms icd
cyan bronze
nommy
strong forum
But the trinket is balanced around 50% uptime
cyan bronze
thats a lot of fucking crit man
cyan bronze
also like
strong forum
If played well
strong forum
Correct
cyan bronze
ya
unless u want magic shield
it’s goated af
insane trinket
vdh & prot will do disgusting things with that trinket
more than other tanks
vdh just doesn’t need anything to live
so tanky
until it gets shot
toxic ruin
what trinket? asking so its no missinformation
cyan bronze
tome
lusty grotto
priory tome
cyan bronze
complete ass pull of a number but isn’t myth time like
strong forum
Hello tert how doing
cyan bronze
just having a s3 trinket
lusty grotto
tome of light's devotion is the full name
strong forum
Essentially yes diva
cyan bronze
Ty
what is rwf gonna do when they see a pwar and bear with tome tanking doing higher dmg than some dps
(jokes)
strong forum
Bear?
strong forum
Yeah but so do pally and bdk aswell
strong forum
I reckon templar pally once everything is implemented in Sims
cyan bronze
doubt on ppal but idrk
cyan bronze
I reckon templar pally once everything is implemented in Sims
lightsmith does more st
according to
one of the colored names in ppal discord
circa today
strong forum
Could be
strong forum
I just know their shit wasn't implemented and neither was/is 4pc from bear
So most tank Sims are still TBD
Except for pwar
cyan bronze
yeah it was
cyan bronze
I just know their shit wasn't implemented and neither was/is 4pc from bear
bear 4 pc is so cursed
idk if u’ve kept on it
but everytime i open the discord they’re talking about it
and it gets more cursed
cyan bronze
last cursed thing i saw was
there’s conditionals on it such that if you’re low hp, you can fucking renewal
cyan bronze
his apl is hilarious
round cliff
He always does too much
maybe u could do more
strong forum
round cliff
ur the reason i cant parse
strong forum
Cuz im blocking the spot
pallid quiver
It's what happens when you've got cheat engine just off the cuff at all times smh
"oh i'm not gonna #1 parse, better ensure my RNG is a little... luckier"
strong forum
I actually lost my turbo r1
cyan bronze
bad
strong forum
Kind of in shambles ngl
cyan bronze
bad player
pallid quiver
oh shoot, really?
cyan bronze
shameful
lilac jetty
Are reports of big colossus dam assuming they take massacre + juggernaut, or are they still ahead with enduring defenses + punish?
strong forum
Depends what youre talking about
Raid or m+
Cuz in raid execute (on paper) is only 100k ahead of punish build
round cliff
ONLY 100k
strong forum
In practice this can and will obv look very different
lilac jetty
i mainly focus on raid, but i assumed they were ahead in both
round cliff
wtf how much dps are we supposed to be doing now
strong forum
2.1mil
round cliff
damn bruh
round cliff
how much dps are dps doing
strong forum
3mil
cerulean tusk
wasnt BDK at 2.2m?
cerulean tusk
Well, all that matters is that we looking good
strong forum
Time will tell who looks how good
cerulean tusk
Ehm, one thing that matters - I hope druid is not left behind
cerulean tusk
I love my teddybears
strong forum
Actually lots of dps sim at 2.6-2.7 max bis
All the good dps are close to 3
And again, that's just on paper
cerulean tusk
Actually lots of dps sim at 2.6-2.7 max bis
Ye, that are sandbag sims mostly, dont worry - like warlocks saying they sim 2.4m, yet they do 3-4m stable in M+ ST bosses
strong forum
In reality many will do more depending on circumstance
Like ele Sims what, 1.8mil? In 11.0
And it's doing upwards of 2.2mil ST on sikran
cerulean tusk
The link I was shown by a mate was 2m and a comment "Warrior BAD"
strong forum
Sims are only an average in a secluded environment
cerulean tusk
much salt going around, when warrior sim well
strong forum
Always will
kind glen
I think you're gonna pull through
lusty grotto
that has been the case for like
the last 4 patches, even into DF
or rather, including
or i could be misremembering but i recall the later seasons did do a key reset
bleak breach
Yeah, it’s always the same. No biggy
Ilvl and difficulty goes up, they reset.
If you’re good enough to climb back to 10s it will take you like an hour
mighty valley
i'm just glad there's no incentive to blow the dust off my character before the season even starts
strong forum
^
lusty grotto
😄
foggy ingot
I'm still waffling between War and VDH
lusty grotto
muscle memory is back full just wasting some time
foggy ingot
Got my VDH mostly geared in anticipation
lusty grotto
my vdh aint ready but ill probably be playing it as well
chilly brook
the last 4 patches, even into DF
no it's been like several key levels downgrade but not a flat reset
cerulean tusk
I am sorry for your loss of 2 hours of "progress"
chilly brook
I mean it's just a silly thing
lusty grotto
no it's been like several key levels downgrade but not a flat reset
yeah im pretty sure that stopped being the case mid DF
bleak breach
Champ gear will still be an upgrade?
No stress
chilly brook
doesn't hurt anything to not reset to a straight 2
cerulean tusk
Ye, it not starting at +2 is silly, a new season starting at the starting point?
lusty grotto
oh, fair point
bleak breach
It’s also to help the lesser players who have just built to 10s, they need the full reset.
chilly brook
It’s also to help the lesser players who have just built to 10s, they need the f...
they can just lower their key?
cerulean tusk
Think of it is a player experience, what is more fun for the casual player
To hit a wall, over and over
bleak breach
^
lusty grotto
i think the biggest problem is m0 not starting tomorrow
otherwise it wouldn't be a big deal
cerulean tusk
M0 dead before it starts, sadge
lusty grotto
cause then you get a key next wweek
bleak breach
Yeah if M0 dropped on week 1 that would be great
lusty grotto
im guessing they didnt want it to open next week cause people would just armor stack and shit
err this week i mean
cerulean tusk
and having fun
lusty grotto
but i mean it does kinda affect casual gamers
spiral jetty
with it being back to weekly lockout it makes even less sense to not have it lol
lusty grotto
lol jfc
rough hazel
Thought I'd come back to play again this tier, and then I read the PTR notes /cry
lusty grotto
weekly lockout for m0, yikers
chilly brook
@lusty grotto https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/12zojrd/mythic_keys_will_deplete_by_10_levels_in_the/
spiral jetty
sorry to break the news 😦
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/12zojrd/m...
ok so was it last season?
i swear to god the full reset started in DF
but am old
bleak breach
Yeah they did a lockout for it because it starts at champ gear
cerulean tusk
Griff, just accept this is better and simpler. No need to cause casual gamers stress, for something that will just costs us a couple of hours
Guess if you are a raider, and got very limited time to do the weekly keys - then maybe, but I am sure you got some M+ers in the guild
chilly brook
Not sure about S4 but S4 was the huge reset of scaling so a reset would have made sense. But since there is no change to key scaling resets for this season do not.
yea S4 was a reset to +2 for all keys because fundamentally everything got changed in a large way i.e. a 2 was equivalent to an 11 or some bs
but uhhh
we're not in a refactor anymore
bleak breach
Guess if you are a raider, and got very limited time to do the weekly keys - the...
I mean raiders are just gonna pump up to whatever level drops myth rank, pump a heap to fill vault and stop while they prog anyway
chilly brook
Griff, just accept this is better and simpler. No need to cause casual gamers st...
And it costs someone who doesn't want to do a key higher than a 2 a grand total of 3 seconds to press a dialogue box
cerulean tusk
Think of it from the casual perspective
they wont do that, and you know it
they will hammer their head to the wall, and be frustrated
Yes, casuals matter more than you and I.
chilly brook
Casuals want all the benefit of doing a 10 without any of the effort
they don't matter
cerulean tusk
They matter far more than us.
They are what keeps this game alive
They are the future and end of WoW. How much we will enjoy it or not.
chilly brook
They're the reason we almost had a meltdown of prot
spiral jetty
they might have a better chance of doing said keys if they got to do m0 the first week
chilly brook
could care less about what they think
cerulean tusk
I will take this cost of "2 hours" of my life doing some ez keys
if it makes their 1 a day better
chilly brook
they legit cry to nerf specs because they want top level performance but aren't willing to put forth the effort to hit it and even when it's nerfed still wouldn't play it properly
cerulean tusk
The casuals dont cry out.
They dont make a sound
They are the true silent majority
chilly brook
they do though?
mighty valley
what does "casuals" even mean any more if we're talking about people who do 10s every week
cerulean tusk
Anyone that goes to WoW forum, or even worse, into a class discord, are not casuals
bleak breach
You’ve got like 20+ weeks of season 2, an hour ain’t gonna make a difference.
cerulean tusk
sec, I answered this already
You give them CE, they give you week1 vault keys
🤝
chilly brook
Jokes on you I am a M+er and a raider
bleak breach
I mean wether you get 1 piece or 3 pieces of myth rank in your vault week 1 it’s gonna be an upgrade either way
cerulean tusk
You not going to argue having 3 chances for BIS, is equal to 1?
I wont say 1 isnt likely to be an upgrade you gonna use for a bit, but still.
3 a lot better than 1
chilly brook
not to mention most guilds require at least 2 slots lmao
cerulean tusk
Less chance of getting bad stat ring
chilly brook
if not 3
bleak breach
Not what I said
mighty valley
you get a lot more complaint equity when you fill three slots
cerulean tusk
you said it in a way that implies 1 or 3 is "just as valuable" as "either way" there is an upgrade
bleak breach
There will be an upgrade there
cerulean tusk
Yeah, upgrades are not equal value
bleak breach
Might not be bis, but it’s week 1.
cerulean tusk
Noone disagree, but dont call 3 and 1 equal in value - or imply it. 3 is just better by a landslide
bleak breach
I didn’t
cerulean tusk
vague stump
is m0 open this week or not? everybody is saying something different
cerulean tusk
No m0, only quests and maybe delves
normal iron
is m0 open this week or not? everybody is saying something different
pretty sure its still season 1 m0 untill 5th march
mighty valley
i think it's fair to say that if you mathed it out, the % chance of getting something great doesn't go up THAT much with more vault slots early in the season. but it does go up, and you don't wanna get made fun of at the guild cafeteria do you
bleak breach
Yes I said it will be an upgrade either way. Implying if you’re low on time you didn’t need to fill all alts vaults etc.
vague stump
pretty sure its still season 1 m0 untill 5th march
thats kinda stupid ;/
normal iron
thats kinda stupid ;/
its the same as launch
cerulean tusk
Ye, it is kinda weird
normal iron
at least we get time to do the new zone without stress lol
cerulean tusk
M0 is only valuable before M+ goes online
mighty valley
it's fine, it just means there's no pressure to do pre-season gearing
just do as much outdoor shit as is fun to you and then the real season starts when it starts
cerulean tusk
m0 is just fun with friends
vague stump
ooutdoor shit is not fun. at least for me
bleak breach
M0 is only valuable before M+ goes online
To a point, M0 will be valuable for casual and less capable players next tier as it drops champ gear.
normal iron
I'm glad u get hero gear from +6
bleak breach
I have no idea what m0 drop
Yeah they changed it to champ, which I think ilvl wise will outweight myth rank from this tier?
normal iron
Yeah they changed it to champ, which I think ilvl wise will outweight myth rank ...
yep it will
torn gulch
weekly lockout for m0, yikers
back to champion gear drops like it was before
lusty grotto
mild river
Remember to not take the day off tomorrow., guys! It's a loooooong maintenance day
cerulean tusk
and nothing to do
dusky canopy
Take off M+ week duhhh
lusty grotto
i gotta go to the office 🙂
strong forum
I have way too many days off currently
Losing your job where you've been at for 9 years does that to a mfer
bleak breach
Losing your job where you've been at for 9 years does that to a mfer
Fair
Wish my job would make me redundant already
torn gulch
i am off next week
there will be a lot of m+ done on multiple tanks
hopefully i'll do at least first mythic boss as well
first 2 will be even better
strong forum
Friday and on weekend is mh:wilds
supple meadow
Losing your job where you've been at for 9 years does that to a mfer
I feel you there. I had head surgery and Ive been off work for almost 2 yrs and I'm tweaking almost lmao
I've been working constantly since I was 17 and I'm 30 now
supple meadow
My wife is an angel for taking care of me
supple meadow
Yeah I got chronic depression. Wow helps alleviate it a lot
supple meadow
Yeah I have 2 consoles my pc and YouTube premium
I try to fill all my time as much as humanly possible
harsh trellis
M+ week starts on the 11th?
strong forum
5th
harsh trellis
Oh sweet
harsh trellis
the only key I am not looking forward to this round is darkflame
strong forum
Everybody hates candle key
supple meadow
I'm ngl i don't mind cleft
harsh trellis
Mechagon is gonna be fun again but I thought we already had that in a rotation.
supple meadow
I hate cinderbrew
strong forum
Workshop is not a fun dungeon
mortal cypress
The new dungeon looks like it will be a nightmare
just full of stuns and "laser on you"
pallid quiver
Workshop is not a fun dungeon
workshop hurt me emotionally in SL S4
strong forum
And in bfa s3 and s4!
pallid quiver
There was a door where I physically could not fit through as a cow with banner active
so i had to actually click my banner off so i could fit through the door
pallid quiver
yeah that's what it felt like every time
torn gulch
There was a door where I physically could not fit through as a cow with banner a...
after miniboss on the way to the movement minigame
i've seen that before
pallid quiver
he knows
torn gulch
you're as big as the hut
as a tauren with banner
one question do we play with the whetstone as the weapon consumable
unless we have a mace and we play with algari oil
small steeple
one question do we play with the whetstone as the weapon consumable
unless we ha...
don't mace also have a whetstone, called like weightedstone or something? or did they get rid of that
jagged gust
Yeah, within reason
If it's something like <10sec on CD you can easily force a reset by blowing some extra rage
same with demo shout, they all tend to wind up lining up with each other more often than not
Well maybe not quite 10sec in demo shouts case, probably ~5ish
daring narwhal
Should we switch to col once the season start (still with S1 tier set equipped) ?
vestal moat
hey is it fair to say tomorrow forgetting all the other changes we are getting a free +10% hp from the endurance trainig chance
strong forum
strong forum
Should we switch to col once the season start (still with S1 tier set equipped) ...
if you want to, sure, both thane and colossus are entirely viable. Colossus just does more AoE damage
small steeple
lmao
lusty grotto
small steeple
monster
jagged gust
get quoted nome
urban bane
To be fair I do be 
a lot in dorki's streams xdd
lusty grotto
donowalled
mighty valley
"but... nah" are the words of a true scientist
there are still a bunch of other rage nerfs
that are intact
urban bane
"but... nah" are the words of a true scientist
strong forum
overall, all things considered pwar is getting buffed
even if you take away the 20% aura buff all tanks got
urban bane
donowalled
truly the impenetrable wall was theTwitch dot tv 6.99 USD all along
strong forum
we individually, got buffed
yes iknow what you are trying to say
they wanted to nerf us
gave us compensation
realised the compensation wasnt good enough
gave us more compensation
reverted some of the nerfs, reverted some more of it and never took any compensation away
and suddenly we came out the other end and now we're better
thats the full story
mighty valley
nerfs weren't really the intent, just wanted to change how it plays... but didn't understand the spec fully so nerfed us for a while oops
strong forum
we never traded survivability for damage as thane
as colossus you do trade surv for damage
paper beacon
even if you take away the 20% aura buff all tanks got
Prot war got 2x 5% and 1x 20% which means they got an effective 32.3% aura buff
strong forum
only 1x 5%
and like i said specifically
if you take away the 20% buff all tanks got
which, all tanks got
paper beacon
So a 26% aura buff
strong forum
yes
paper beacon
And not all tanks got 20%
strong forum
yes they did
paper beacon
Brew sadge
strong forum
what
paper beacon
15%
urban bane
WHO-master?
cyan bronze
yes they did
u didnt know this?
paper beacon
Yeh brew out there catching strays
cinder marsh
so i know tier lists dont really matter but what makes prot warr a tier?
paper beacon
Brew is also losing a lot of AOE damage from s1 tier set going away
mighty valley
so i know tier lists dont really matter but what makes prot warr a tier?
so i know atlantis doesn't exist but how do they breathe down there
strong forum
i legit read nothing else but warrior
paper beacon
To be fair if you scroll at a moderate speed you completely skip over the brewmaster changes
strong forum
idc what other tanks are getting, ill hear about some of it but i dont actively seek it out
paper beacon
It's like 3 lines
paper beacon
Ctrl + F "Brewmaster" 0 results found
strong forum
guess i was wrong
strong forum
anlaki
strong forum
Brew is also losing a lot of AOE damage from s1 tier set going away
tbf you are also like the only tank that had a tierset that did anything or
pwar s1 set is like a 2% type deal 
paper beacon
S1 set was 20% keg smash and also gave 4+ free keg smashes per minute so it hit like a dumpster
strong forum
yeah i remember being mad at you guys getting a good set while we got piss
small steeple
@strong forum I'm still undecided whether I'm going to start season 2 as pwar or vdh. Tell me why I shouldn't pick pwar?
strong forum
cuz you dont like being a man
small steeple
🤣
strong forum
who doesnt need help from weird ass magic
paper beacon
Was like 9-10% increase while new set is roughly 6% but only for 3target cleave
small steeple
Just figured if I can't choose on the positives, maybe the negatives would help 🤣
paper beacon
In AoE it's a 4% increase
strong forum
the negatives are that 90% of the time people are convinced pwar is dogshit
as proven by the current ptr cycle
perception was dogshit until they found the other hero tree
which to be fair, only took people 3/4 weeks now instead of 3 months
which is improvement
small steeple
I was kinda hoping that didn't happen so people wouldn't call me a "meta chaser" or some shit
small steeple
you will never be called a fotm player as warrior
not even the first half of dfs1 before paladin rework?
cinder marsh
should i go ahead and start cleaning up my addons and customizing it or wait, cause im pretty sure if addons were to change it would be today right?
paper beacon
Prot war metas are healthy metas compared to the fucking wizard tank meta domination
cinder marsh
i wish i could stay the same
cyan bronze
<@192743144276623360> I'm still undecided whether I'm going to start season 2 as...
if u want to one one trillion damage
cinder marsh
im always switching up
strong forum
not even the first half of dfs1 before paladin rework?
thats just cuz of having little faith
strong forum
i called paladin meta already in tww beta
yoda was on the right track since the start
cinder marsh
pally is always going to be mta
strong forum
^
cyan bronze
outside of when its not
paper beacon
Yoda called paladin dog shit at the start
cyan bronze
and then its really bad and no one remembers ppal util
cinder marsh
its blizz's class
cyan bronze
strong forum
thats nothing new, raid parsing is diff to m+
strong forum
Tears every single video
yeah which i find weird
cuz like
anyone with half a braincell was aware
that pally was not gonna stay "dogshit"
everyone knew that pally was in a rough spot early TWW
paper beacon
that pally was not gonna stay "dogshit"
They thought it was gonna get the Brewmaster treatment
strong forum
the dmg was less than top tier cuz they played poorly
paper beacon
Where the only change you have to look forward to is an icon change
chilly brook
idk how ya'll can stand female dorf
strong forum
Bear, BDK and Brew
cinder marsh
ik personally i have a shit ton of addons
strong forum
i have like 10 at best
cinder marsh
what would yall say is the max number of addons a person should have
paper beacon
B tier
cyan bronze
idk how ya'll can stand female dorf
i cant
cinder marsh
and dont say 0
cyan bronze
cus after female dorf
chilly brook
what would yall say is the max number of addons a person should have
the amount differs from person to person
cyan bronze
I can’t walk or stand
strong forum
what would yall say is the max number of addons a person should have
Weakaura, Bigwigs/DBM, Details, an UI addon of your choice
strong forum
oh yeah nvm
strong forum
bugsack
cinder marsh
20!
chilly brook
Also wow in 32:9 is wild
strong forum
addonskins
cinder marsh
whats your ui?
chilly brook
did you also get a 49" monitor?
I did
pallid quiver
you will never be called a fotm player as warrior
I was called a meta chaser at the start of DF S1
strong forum
whats your ui?
i use elvui and make my own weakauras
pallid quiver
that person also died like twelve times somehow while the rest of the group was fine iirc
chilly brook
great, sorry for the flashbang (screenshots don't play nice with HDR)
can see so much lmao
strong forum
yeah
chilly brook
gotta fix my UI though
chilly brook
this is still mostly from 16:9 setup
strong forum
xd
cinder marsh
you know he has a big ass monitor
chilly brook
strong forum
5120:1440 is a heck oif a resolution
chilly brook
Big is an understatement
chilly brook
I need a new desk
strong forum
cinder marsh
chilly brook
hard to actually decorate a desk when it's tiny
cinder marsh
yea im not gonna lie your desk looks like the white party table
that be at frat parties
jagged gust
your ui feels off center by a few pixels
strong forum
everything on CD, rage shitty, no rend up
jagged gust
I think it's that white line in the rage bar
chilly brook
urban bane
?? that'd be news to me
chilly brook
this much screen space in league is downright diabolical
cinder marsh
ok showoff
strong forum
the vertical monitor is perfect for streaming
strong forum
ive spent a good 600hrs in D4
chilly brook
thinking about getting a monitor arm to put my old one above this one
cinder marsh
its alright
strong forum
tbf that screenshot is from early season
cinder marsh
i stopped playing because i was in a group and a friend got all the uniqes he can get and i got 0
strong forum
i obv finished it in 2 days
cinder marsh
long live my dignity
strong forum
thinking about getting a monitor arm to put my old one above this one
ye like the widescreen is shitty as single monitor
you need something else as 2nd
otherwise i cant read chat/discord while gaming
chilly brook
I mean you can supposedly separate this into 2 27" 1440p monitors
fallow beacon
Just having a skim through the blockable spreadsheet for S2 - any big boy spell reflects for prot warrior to be aware of for big dam?
chilly brook
something about the multiview function and plugging in twice to your GPU
chilly brook
I wouldn't do it but there's some things that I could see it being useful for
strong forum
Just having a skim through the blockable spreadsheet for S2 - any big boy spell ...
there are a handful of casts targeted at the tank in Theatre of Pain
chilly brook
but just picked this up on Saturday
cinder marsh
anybody know how to get rid of lua errors
strong forum
bugsack + buggrabber
BUT
if you have lua errors, instead of hiding them, you want to fix them
chilly brook
I think price just went back up
cinder marsh
ok so how do i fix them
strong forum
figure out what addon/weakaura is causing the lua error
chilly brook
ye it's back up to $1,799
fallow beacon
there are a handful of casts targeted at the tank in Theatre of Pain
Is reaping scythe (last boss tank nuke) not reflectable anymore? Remember this being big dam in shadowlands but looks like its no longer the case
strong forum
correct
fallow beacon
rip dam
cinder marsh
i just closed it but i saw something with elvui core
strong forum
then i recommend updating elvui
pallid quiver
figure out what addon/weakaura is causing the lua error
For the uininitiated, I'm pretty sure most Lua errors will mention which addon to check out, and some of those addons will tell you what process caused the issue
strong forum
^
pallid quiver
makes troubleshooting a loooooooot easier
strong forum
my UI doesnt have lua errors so i cant give an example
jagged gust
nah its 0 pix
Your rage bar has an uneven pixel count, so everything is 0'd but it's off center from the bar itself, which then makes the buff tracker above the white line off by one pixel as well
from the white line, not zero I mean
pallid quiver
I logged on literally just to see if I had any old WAs that didn't work anymore, but I forgot I just recently purged anything that wasn't working. Recently being "within the last year"
ruby musk
Your rage bar has an uneven pixel count, so everything is 0'd but it's off cente...
What level of Dantes Inferno is this?
strong forum
Your rage bar has an uneven pixel count, so everything is 0'd but it's off cente...
youre right
jagged gust
bro I get autistic asf when it comes to my ui
strong forum
my ragebar is 4 pixel off on the left to my health
but 5 pixel off on the right
bruh
strong forum
bro I get autistic asf when it comes to my ui
its fun to fix
ruby musk
Literally unplayable
chilly brook
meanwhile me "eh I'll eyeball it, good enough"
strong forum
30
ooooh are you a hekili-or
that WA is btw colossus specific i hope?
then i guess? but that only applies in aoe
in ST you wanna TC on CD
you wanna maximise your SS resets and rage generation on ST
in aoe revenge becomes higher prio as colossus
due to increased rage gen and massively increased dmg output of revenge
TC remains low prio as colossus in aoe due to almost negative dmg output
however still important for rend uptime and SS resets
just slightly lower prio
since revenge does upwards of 4mil+ in aoe per GCD on 5 targets
and TC barely does 1mil on 5 targets
*as colossus
vocal pewter
Are there going to be any ways to still gear during this coming week before the release of S2?
strong forum
you can keep doing m+ and raid
but you can no longer upgrade gear
m0s are still in s1 content
so they reward 580ilvl
nop
its still s1 until 5th march
just can no longer use crests and upgrade gear
but regular item drops are still available
can do +10s just fine
just play the game or
vocal pewter
its still s1 until 5th march
I thought m0s weren't starting until next week?
strong forum
well guess what next week is my friend
yeah so ... just play the way you have to play?
i really struggle with what youre trying to say
well if its not necessary
then you dont have to press it 😄
yeah but thats like saying
"i dont wanna learn how to drive like im in traffic, i only wanna learn how to drive on a racetrack"
doesnt really compute does it
then dont play like youre undergeared and just be a man
tanking isnt for the feint of heart
strong forum
I thought m0s weren't starting until next week?
if you didnt catch what i meant with what i said, next week is already march 4th/5th, thats when s2 starts and "new" m0s start
ye so use the last day that you have
and grind +8s/10s
and craft 636 gear
that can fix most of your low ilvl things
youre worried about having to press IP "too much" cuz youre undergeared but fine to be boosted
SHAKING MY FOREHEAD
pallid quiver
"i dont wanna learn how to drive like im in traffic, i only wanna learn how to d...
No, that makes sense; driving in traffic is slow as fuck, while driving on a racetrack is fast, which means more fun.
it's all about the desire
strong forum
okay but what about desire to be happy
pallid quiver
There should be catchup gear from questing in the new zone that drops tomorrow on a serious note, but I don't know what ilvl that is
pallid quiver
Since M0 is 63x iirc
sharp gale
Basically he doesn’t want to tank when he can die?
sharp gale
Women are not real
strong forum
plausible
sharp gale
They are gov fbi agents
pallid quiver
ur mom's a gov fbi agent
Anyhow, current catchup gear from Siren's drops at 593, so it'll probably be some halfway between that and heroic dung ilvl
lusty grotto
i hope shes ignoring those emails 🙂
sharp gale
So basically they are femboy fbi agent, that’s why I go for the real femboys right away
sharp gale
My gm is convinced too m0 is Wednesday idk why
pallid quiver
i mean technically, m0 will be available
sharp gale
And another guild is also hard convinced, like I show them the literal Warcraft website
sharp gale
They still organize a mm0 world tour this weekend
cerulean tusk
i mean technically, m0 will be available
strong forum
guys how is prot war for next season raid
looks to be in a rather favourable position
sharp gale
guys how is prot war for next season raid
Check a tier list
strong forum
dont say that to someone asking a genuine question
pallid quiver
Have we figured out which bosses are gonna be the pug slappers yet? That's the real question
sharp gale
Pug is 2 bosses only I bet
pallid quiver
better than this raid
Most pugs I ever got into got swept by Bloodbound Horror
Nerub too hard
sharp gale
Oh you mean that lvl of pug
sharp gale
Shush with your 52 pull kill
pallid quiver
That doesn't work if I ever stop, nor does it work when my schedule is fucked and leaves me in degen hours. It is what it is.
but it's interesting seeing how many pugs just die the moments tanks have to do a single thing more than press taunt
sharp gale
What I perceive how far pugs (the good pug) go is : they kill 3 bosses in nerub, sometime rash too
strong forum
if my pug cant kill 4/8M in 1hr
its not a good pug
like if its only 3/8M its a dogshit pug in my mind
pallid quiver
if my pug can make it to the instance, i think we're poppin'
sharp gale
It’s still good for the overall game
sharp gale
The game is a low bar game imo
pallid quiver
It is for players on your end who want to learn and engage with the game
sharp gale
99% don’t play like me so I acknowledge that
pallid quiver
4/8 M really shouldn't be that hard with Nerub bosses
As long as you, again, want to actually engage with the game and learn it
strong forum
we cleared 4/8M week 1 with 610ilvl as a guild
so i kinda expect a pug
with 635 ilvl and 18% dmg and healing increase to do the same
pallid quiver
The issue isn't the numbers for the people struggling in pugs like that; it's that they just actually don't want to engage with the game. Until the content is literally trivial, they will never get to a passable point
sharp gale
My friend is joining on purpose a guild who failed getting curve, while raiding 3 times just for the experience idk if he will regret it
strong forum
pugged it and got it in like an hour
kinda crazy how wild the delta is in player skill isnt it
sharp olive
Will we be able to recraft
Replace season 1 spark with season 2 spark / new gilded?
rain light
painful
strong forum
Will we be able to recraft
Replace season 1 spark with season 2 spark / new gild...
yes
pallid quiver
Like, in fighting games, it is a completely standard thing to like, block on wakeup.
but the large majority of people who play will just get hit
They just don't actually care to learn
In Call of Duty, the people just wanna go bang bang and press gun, not do objectives or move with intent
vocal pewter
if you didnt catch what i meant with what i said, next week is already march 4th...
Got it thanks
strong forum
its always an eye opener that theres hundreds if not thousands of guilds still even progressing queen heroic
pallid quiver
There's just a level at where people who want to legitimately learn will get to
strong forum
or normal even
sharp gale
my last guild died after killing brood lol
We restarted raiding today, we missed an egg, no one died
pallid quiver
Just because you're putting in hours and effort doesn't mean you're actually learning is the main thing
People don't understand that because people don't know how to learn
strong forum
i was on track to getting r1 arms parse on brood, but then we missed 2 eggs...
lusty grotto
i did kyveza prog with my pally's guild, i loved prog on it
strong forum
and i died on the very last tick of the debuff...
and dropped ~800k dps overall when the boss was dead
lusty grotto
such a good fight
lusty grotto
also i was allowed to be 2nd tank on it 🙂
sharp gale
I might finally become a tank of my guild after today raid
cerulean tusk
I read that as 3.8m PROT dps, and was very much: Wait what?
lusty grotto
btw we killed it with me tanking cause our 2nd tank was away
cerulean tusk
15 ppl wouldn't have died if you were prot, selfcaused sabotage
lusty grotto
🙂
strong forum
god i wish i could do the fight as prot
would easily walk outta there with like 2.5mil dps
and get that r1
strong forum
sharp gale
It is now really easy to no mass grip ovinax now
lusty grotto
yeah idk
strong forum
lusty grotto
we killed it pre-holidays
sharp gale
We dropped the second mass grip in november, if you still push the parasites in the kill zone they disappear with overgear
wraith linden
whats up guys, returning to wow after a little break. Im trying to import talents from wow head and the import threads arnt really working. When i import these are the talents i get. something seems to be bugged.
when i copy any of these they do not seem to work for me
wraith linden
ohh i see
lusty grotto
but i could be wrong
wraith linden
thanks for the reply. might you have some dungeon talents you could share?
small steeple
whats up guys, returning to wow after a little break. Im trying to import talent...
its not 11.1 yet
wraith linden
its not 11.1 yet
are there some talent changes coming to the prot tallents?
small steeple
are there some talent changes coming to the prot tallents?
in the class tree yeah
but patch is tommorow
wraith linden
copy that, thanks. I noticed that the reinforced plates talent has 1 talent point you can add to it while on wow head it shows you can put in 2 talents
small steeple
yyes
near walrus
anyone know if the M0 reset daily or weekly now, can't remember
small steeple
for under 5 targets yes, and its mor consistent above 5
bloodsurge gives more above 5 targets, but its not guaranteed
ravager can be taken in aoe
battering ram is only with 4pc too
idle copper
battering ram is only with 4pc too
@strong forum so you take ravager until you get the 4pc? Unless you want ravager for specific AoE fights?
supple meadow
anyone know if the M0 reset daily or weekly now, can't remember
I believe it's still daily but I could.be wrong.
Ah ok
sharp gale
small steeple
I believe it's still daily but I could.be wrong.
confirmed weekly
supple meadow
damn
simple atlas
Does colossus require 2/4p to play next patch? or can i swap without?
urban bane
you can play colossus now if you wish 
simple atlas
Oh are they pretty close now? Havent played in a while
urban bane
it was a lil less tanky than thane in s1 but not so much you couldnt do weekly keys or raid in it
simple atlas
oh gotcha, thanks!
cyan bronze
just play colossus tmr
old flame
Yoda dropped a pwar guide, not sure why he's pushing bsv...
ionic fern
Yoda dropped a pwar guide, not sure why he's pushing bsv...
Because the keys he is doing are different than the keys majority of people are doing.
It's not a bad talent,it's just very situational.
ionic fern
<@192743144276623360> so you take ravager until you get the 4pc? Unless you want...
Roughly,yes.
old flame
I agree
Just not sure why he's not quantifying that bit. Also not running battering ram is a bit mistakey
jagged pier
he doesnt like prot
old flame
Idk
jagged pier
so why would he put in the effort
sharp gale
$$$
old flame
Fair, but he made a whole vid
old flame
Fair
sharp gale
PWAR OP ???? With tier list ranked S big booms in thumbnail
ionic fern
Just not sure why he's not quantifying that bit. Also not running battering ram ...
No tier yet,no? 
ionic fern
Another thing that could have been specificed in the video (unless he did,I haven't watched it).
old flame
If it's a season 2 guide he should be pretty clear about get 4pc run BR.
jagged pier
nah just make another one later
sharp gale
But if he explain the dungeons parts hard on the tank or healer, still useful info
old flame
Just annoying when people don't make a solid effort
jagged pier
thats literally any content creator for wow
when they do content covering multiple specs and classes
i.e tier lists guides
they cant know everything in depth about evrything, and they will always have favourites
old flame
Yeah
ionic fern
It's fine - my m+ build is also taking Ravager over Battering Ram because I copied over the wrong build,and now I'm in a skiing trip so gotta wait until Thursday to fix. 
sharp gale
Yeah like yoda who’s main is prot pal
ionic fern
Off to the mountains tho. Enjoy no mod checking #protection
hot orbit
M0 weekly cd means that i can run a dungeon once a week, right ? 😆 so I can't farm them to learn the mechanics well?
remote anchor
you can do them multiple times i think you just wont get loot
hot orbit
Got it. Thx
strong forum
If you run with someone else as the leader who doesn't have an ID yes you can kill stuff again. But if you are the leader the dungeon will not reset until the "cd" is done
You can also just farm +2s to learn the mechanics, but I doubt you'll see much of mechanics happening
hot orbit
+2s open next week. Right?
strong forum
Yeah, same as m0s
It's still s1 until 4th/5th March
You won't be able to do the "new" dungeons M0s this week
hot orbit
I misunderstood. So this week only Delves?
jagged pier
yo we get delves?
fossil vapor
what is the best race for prot war in m+ (high keys) nigth elf? or i can be dragon cause is cool?
hot orbit
yo we get delves?
Delves, new dungeon and new quests
remote anchor
I misunderstood. So this week only Delves?
this week is only quests
strong forum
Same
remote anchor
i tried mh rise and that shit was ass