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i got it in vault as myth track, still using a hero shard
You got all gem slots cowered?
currently 3.2k io and the dungeons are easy to survive; I'm considering it for a little extra damage
yea considering the gem slot as well
revenges?
The ability
need to spam that revenge more
but then my IP runs out

panik
if your IP runs out youre not doing enough dmg
sure
yeah it has it's own gcd
it's fine I'll just keep running these 10s and struggling
and eventually figure it out
the struggle is the fun part

to fish for shield slam resets when you are out of tc and ss
i literally said as thane u dont need to press revenge and it barely makes a difference this season

God I love LFR

sure
better than empty gcd
empty GCDs is just practice for S2 🙂
real
also idk where you said that
your last instance of revenge was 16d ago, but ok jakey 
Cant say I felt it, Thane gets empty GCDs on PTR? I know Col don't, if you remember to play around pooling your rage during CDs 
I kinda just skipped playing Thane on PTR tho - not my cup of tea 🍵
Why do the CN collossis prot war use FbV instead of BrV?
Yea that happens like 3 times per dungeon. Better to press ignore pain or even Victory rush
Collo presses IP less, so the value of building on it is worth more - than Thane that spams IP
Are people playing colossus competitively? I’m not aware of anyone playing it over thane
I am coming from the perspective of 100% competitive focus
You mean in the pro scene? Prob not, but high end of warrior? Sure
I mean high end m+
thane is better in m+ especially high keys thats for sure
dosent mean colossus is unplayable
I mean, warrior itself is unplayable atm in high end keys because everyone is a meta slave
Super easy to tank the keys though
You just can’t compete with the util
This is my first ssn in m+ have been a pvper my whole wow life
Game mode is less toxic, but networking being the gate is just as bad
And meta slavers are way worse
Mostly because there is only 1 meta comp
At least in pvp there are a handful
yes the comp are very restrictive, especially since aug
pvp raid and m+ all have their different pros and cons ahah
pick ur poison
toxicity, forced schedule or meta slave
Yes, but IP is still pressed so BrV still gives healing/mitigation to IP. What exactly is it that makes those 2 players specifically use FbV (all of these are colossus) instead of BrV?
cuz stupid
BrV is insanely more valuable then FbV
cuz the dmg from outburst already fuels into the newly acquired IP
Ok, thats what I thought
FbV is just details bait
like sure it heals you
but BrV is what keeps you alive more
cuz your total dmg taken is vastly lower with BrV
especially on lower target counts
I've noticed, CN players typically go for these feelycraft talents, for basically every tank spec
It's so odd that they run these mathematically less optimal/worse options yet still perform at such a high level. Are they changing talents on logout to mess with people? Or actually using these?
its a team game
your few talents and such wont impact that
AT all
like on a personal level sure, but it wont make or break a key in most situations
theres been tanks who play literal clown rotations
but as long as they play the dungeon
it has little impact on key success
There's a lot more that goes into the game than just mega optimizing very miniscule shit that really, does not matter
Nome handle? Nome handle 
We can tell you that Ravager over BSV is an objectively better choice, as you will take less damage with proper play and no mistakes, unless you can plan around it
but like Sense will also tell you,
Ravager is not gonna make you time a key
I am in camp, BSV might save you, rav will not - if you die the key is dead. Security blanket is neato
Then we can argue all day about actual rav value to defencivness and so on
Every class in the game has so many mechanics and ways to interact with mobs/casts/etc, and that's just classes
Just look at the various mob zips/z-axis shenanigans/etc that are entirely class agnostic people do
As long as you have a sheer baseline of power going into the class, known as spending your talent points at all, you likely can push real high keys as long as you properly interact with the content
There's honestly a non-zero amount of effort that goes into the talent gates to make sure you get at least a raw baseline of character power
getting there
Get on my level
these are +10s

Ye, Col feels a bit scarier for sure
but ya safe
dont worry
Health is a recourse that your healer handles 
not oversend
other than panik
Do you remember to not dump rage into IP?
Idk bosses ez
Much less chance to overcap or overspend it feels like
Unless you start using execute liberally sub 20%
= Shine, I press - you cant stop me
revenge doesn't exist sub 20, embrace the dead gcd
well next patch u may need too for demo stacks
I've never seen anyone do 2m dps in any of my keys lmao
2m is pretty avg
???
Shamans do 2.5-3m on the regular
not in +10s I feel like
Ah, 10s, no prob not
things just die
lots of dead air
Maybe if you keep pulling bigger into bigger, non-stop, bosses into trash
(or have a hunter pull all the mist gates constantly in mist
)
This is more your typical 10
I'm dum, so kneejerk I read that as 1.83 billion DPS
fake, the shaman is doing too much damage
Billion DPS, aight, time to nerf warrior again
Report sent to blizz, marked with "thanks Lue"
your typical 10 involves people barely scratching 1m DPS and the tank getting out DPS'd by the healer
Some times I wonder what keys you guys are doing
I haven't done any in a hot minute; I sometimes hit heroic raids on some of my alts
It's rare anyone ever breaches 1M on trash when they say they're padding on trash.
most heroic pugs around have their DPS peak at like 600k ST DPS at 63x ilvl
yeah that sounds pretty typical from my experience too
A couple outliers parsing blue but mostly grey/green
I'm always concerned by the grey parses who never died or even got mechanics
I just straight up don't understand, and it'd be rude to ask.
In my experience, thos are ppl who for one reason or another, physically or mentally, can't perform better.
But they usually great ppl and having a blast, as long you dont mention it.
I had a guildie like that, they were an officer's friend so I really tried with them but eventually just gave up, some people just weren't built for gaming
But yeah, that's always the tradeoff
Good vibes, no skill
my experience is that those people are so caught in their own bullshit that they just can't realize what is actually going on. Mine is also twisted by only pugging and the people I've run into, but those are normally the most toxic and self-assured people I ever run into
They're just incapable of interacting with the game because their ego is just so broken because they can't possibly be anything other than God's Chosen to Bring Forth Glory to the People
I know the other category you describe exist
I see them post and talk
PuGing got some of that sure. But that insecurity stems form lack of mastery and frustration over one thing or the other.
I played with people who got distresses that affect things; some are just humble and feel badly about ruining others gameplay. Others have been totally in denial, ignoring factual information proven by datapoints. The more they are pushed, the more they lash out - it is a coping mechanism.
In PuGs, the loudmouth will be the one that catches your eye. Especially if they are combative about facts. Yet, sour comments, based on believing PuGs in general are 'the bad type', really hurts the second type. As it easily becomes the norm to treat people like lesser for their inability to perform in the video game based on this thought train. The imprint is real. It is the same as the 'server A or B is bad ppl' logic. Got to try to avoid it, if you not meme'ing.
So don't hate on this group. Sure be annoyed, be it over their skill or lack of decency.
Still, better if you just distance yourself from any situation where it appears and avoid to talk down about someone in an unknown situation.
Make WoW a better place for the ones that already struggle 
you're acting like i engage with most anyone
I generally just don't say anything in raid until it crashes and burns
I cannot be assed to interact with people; that's why I'm in pug land
Everyone joins for whatever reason they're there for
It is is more generic, for any reader. Spreading my thoughts on how to handle things.
If I'm pressing buttons best I personally can, idgaf
Actual no changes for BDK this round either. Huh.
they are advertising prot changes from last week this week as well kekw
frothing berserker change is actually quite nice
more incentivised to press revenge over IP when we are lower rage
A lot of revenge changes does that mean colossus will be really good?
yes
difference between the two will be smaller
well colossus aoe will go turbo ham
well colo will crank it's hog on damage
the barbaric training buff was awesome to hear
Well, larger, no? I seen no Thane buffs
Thane is old news
You are old news
i'm still a thane enjoyer
thane will deffo send revenge more too
Nothin worse than a thane enjoyer tbh never liked it since the beta
Apb so toxic
Just tellin it like it is
Let em play thane
That partly why this season 1 was so unenjoyable to me
typical vulpera attitude
^
One of the worst first seasons of any xpac can remember
Even sl s1 was much more fun
I just play thane because it’s better atm lol
That I don't disagree with
If colossus takes over I’ll switch
this season has been balls
Yeah, admittedly I’ve only really raid logged since about the halfway point.
I’m #1 vulpera arms warrior in solo shuffle and bg blitz in the world. This first season was so bad I pursued PvP and owned the entire planet
War within a resounding failure of an xpac so far which is a shame but maybe next season will make it better
I wouldn’t say a failure, I really enjoyed it early.
They just didn’t really add any content
I dunno, a goblin-centric season sounds pretty fucking lame to me
My hopes aint high
Definitely feels like a “stop over” xpac. Like we just doing this shit to get to the final cooler destination which midnight will be
And the numbers don’t lie most agree
Most can’t even remember the name of the continent we are on in this xpac if you asked them
khaz algaz or somthng?
I was about to say dornogal hahaha
The main baddie is foot lady
I actually thought it was really interesting early, but yeah we just haven’t really got any new content past week 4 yet
I tried to get invested but the SL storyboard really did some lasting damage
In fairness what I thought was interesting is probably more the big changes like hero talents rather then story.
I think it’s been a pretty good raid though
We’re going to come just short on CE I think sadly.
We should get 7/8 this week. Had too much interrupted raid over Christmas with 3 weeks off and then struggled to get people back.
Circe fully upgraded and the final raid buff being activated, still a month or so left
They drawing out the main story way too much and people notice it. Story is more important than people realize. Even the ones that claim it doesn’t matter often don’t understand the full repercussions of a poor plot.
I stopped careing, all part of the Jailer's plan for his return in TWW: The Great Plan FR FR
i heard warlord of draenor was good but that was when i stopped
With trailer developed by Quentin Tarantino
maybe blizzard is scared to show an actually evil pyschopathic villian
some dis-enfranchised dude instead exiled what SL DF TWW kinda feels like
Yet another patch note, and the 'push' towards pressing rev...
Frothing Berserker now has a chance to refund 50% of the Rage spent on Revenge (was 25%).
Fyrakk was sort of psychopathic
it should be 2 loot per person
i say we need someoone who totally crossed the line
they lost it and they are totally radicalized and nuts
In the most PG manner possible
is it normal that after 10m+ i got 2 random warbound item and no real one with good ilv????
sounds crazy to me
fyrak was scary sure, but we already seen the deathwing jumpscare years before
feels like DW 0.5
Warbound drops are separate from any other kind of drops, they work on personal loot, and they drop at a lower ilvl than the content you're doing
The thing I remember him the most for was him burrowing in to the earth like a lava mole
they should have had fyrakk since the beginning of DF and made him the poster boy and he does the fire breath all expansion
So if you get a warbound item from heroic raid, it'd be a normal raid ilvl item
cuz its dragon flight, so its a dragon flying around, breathing fire on you
So yes, that all sounds normal
so am i just insanely unlucky to have 0 drop in 10keys?
simply be luckier, yes.
._.
Yeah, will be tight. We would need a really good run on queen.
Honestly, I really liked Fyrakk
My favorite WoW enemies are always the extremely hamtastic, mega bombastic villain types
i did too but DF would have been better if he was on the box
TRIFLING GNOME, YOUR ARROGANCE WILL BE YOUR UNDOING
Things like that
We need more of that
That's also why I liked my Kellogs in S1 of DF; THUNDER CRASH felt real good to hear
I like the tier buffs, but it still doesn’t fix the core issue that it sucks for raid still lol
typical pull to kill is looking like 2-300 with an average of 25 hours +/-5
i don't need deep, well written characters
i was hoping for galakrond till the very end...
i need so much ham you puke on it
Seems like it will be a decent M+ tier though?
Yeah, we’re a chance. I’d nearly rather not try at all then get super close and miss though haha
Miss all the shots you don't take - Steve Carrel
Had a big change up in leadership and team between DF and TWW probably half or less of previous team. Also dropped from 3 days and 3hours and raid to 2 days and 2.5hours so doing really well considering.
Incorrect; you can only miss shots you take, thanks
I'd try to talk them in to 3/week for 2 hours, or even 90 mins
Get more attempts in with fresher faces, plus you really need either an extra day or an extra hour to get the numbers needed on average
Yeah it’s tough, going to the 3hr mark is probably easiest. Gets an extra hour a week
Oh Bdk got a note
wait what
'Datamined'
8 - 12 % isnt what is written though??
its still a buff
it is 8 - 12 seconds
blood plague do need help tho
Which is a nice QoL change. Juggling that buff is annoying in places where you can't keep pulling
plague these

rly have no idea why you would play fbv for colossus
if you drop spellblock ig
Wonder how much bleed dam value you can get, from skipping on revenge amp
:)
lots of healing
which one
The Col one, revenge or bleed
HueHue
i mean it’s one of if not your highest with colossus damage source
me every other patch note checking in here to see if we're zugging yet
We always zug zug
but are we ZUG ZUG or just zug zug
tww
tank spec.
zug zug
if the model wasnt so tall and lanky id totally go UD or normal troll, maybe heritage orc for many things
troll racial is very strong
Do i gear up the DK or the DH as the o-shit back up tank? DK always looks op at the start of a patch but fall off hard (usually)
colossus seeming better and better by the day
undead i would want for between pulls in keys, but i dont think keys has skeletons
or like, corpse explosion type targets
i think its not tagged right or despawns or something, doesnt count some rason
undead was more for if i played healer, as i think it restores mana
maghar and troll racials are very overpowered i know that much, not entirely certain if the orc one is good or nah
only speaking of horde, cuz far as i know, alliance doesnt have totally busted offensive racials
eh, i dont mythic raid, I just do Mythic+
just some good defensive ones for ally
i heroic raid and then get to 3400ish io and go on vacation til next patch
practicing and gearing my prot war, doing some 10s for now. I'm playing mountain thane, should i go for spear or roar? i see both are used
wym, blood plague is top damage and healing for 60% of BDKs I run into 🙂
Spear will give you more damage as long as you have crit as a stat at all in general
But you have to like, aim it
Meanwhile roar is very fire and forget
If you're looking for which gives you more damage, you can just sim
i'm around 5/6 k crit
If you're concerned at all about aggro, Roar is also available twice as often
Out of curiosity, Will luck of the draw tier effect will we still stack crit haste or go to something else because of the crit boost?
the frothing beserker change seems so good for colossus
eh parsing 99s (key parses lol) in +10s as colossus vs like 93ish as thane
I'm happy with this
It's still gonna be crit haste, especially for Colo
so much rage refund
in general i like roar more than spear because its charge in and send it and forget it
spear requires neuron activation
spear sucks
roar sucks because it's not dragon roar anymore
Roar is better then spear for a lot of situations, spear requires more coordination.
Spear way better for bosses though
but spear suffers the same problem i have with any class in wow that has targeted aoe
I don’t play colossus anyway so doesn’t matter to me.
All my thane sims are much higher
gets caught a god damn rafter or candle or some shit, and then it spawns up there and dosent hit the enemy
thats part of puzzle why quit
smaller part, but with jagged metal edges
yogi please not my ptsd, i try not to think of those times
everytime ravager goes to heaven
many angels lose their wings
It's a spinning axe, after all
thats a big fix i want, wher if you are in like a cave with a scaffolding or lamps and shades pictures on wall windows and shit, and thats above you and monsters dont normalyl spawn there, the game forces it down to the level you are on
i get so mad thinking about taht shit
happens with mage too
then again, i will say, i know about, and put up with infinitely tall monsters in doom that block my path over a ledge :S
just ground monsters, but any monster in doom can do that and physically block your movement
what's a ledge, ledges don't exist in doom yogi
prot warrior meta incoming
They'll fat finger one of the revenge talents so it instead gains a bajillion damage and it one-shots bosses
it'll be meta for all of 30 minutes
blood plague is massive for Deathbringer bdk, and does much more healing/damage than for San'Layan bdk. But even then, death strike and blood shield should be top 2 healing
death strike is that button you press once per encounter, wym
I am just here to say, if DS isnt your top dam, are you even playing BDK? 
Some Blizz dev:
well, gotta get bear ready for next tier
only in raid 
has nome voiced his opinion on the frothing changes
thats kinda insane for colossus
He been forthing all day
its still 20% proc chance right?
What’s the frothing berserker refund chance
Also I presume it can’t proc on free revenges right
how's prot stonks looking for keys?
Same as live, more or less.
I wonder if col will be more popular now
We pushing it hard, so yeah
What’s makes Thane “good” is the excess rage to spam IP. Without that rage Thane is just categorically worse than Col
I guess ill take this week to really get used to col
Any good builds yall wanna share?
You can hijack the one on Wowhead that Nome runs, though it's hard to spot
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/colossus/DAOAVVRRFUgEVKSUUBQNVUVEVERFVZVUQDRBAEFVVUBA
It's that one for M+
Isn’t colossus being nearly as hard hit on rage as Thane is? What am I missing
There's been a lot of revenge buffs specifically, and some of the rage gain backwalking makes it
functional
Instead of literally unplayable
Not really, Col always been using Revenge to drive the engine. Thane been running off SS procs from TC and IP.
If the proc rate is not good enough, then Thane cant keep its engine going. It got to do something it does very little of comparably, revenge to try get the procs.
The engine breaks down, halts, and it clunks up.
Thane's still better off rage-wise than Colo, but you can actually play Colo again
instead of when changes first hit
and you ran into dead GCDs as Thane
that sentence sounds so bad 
Very initial iteration was so fucking bad, man
but like. colossus also needs rage. which comes from ss
Colo baseline is getting the +3 rage on SS from a change, which helps it a bit
You also barely pressed IP as Colo, as well, so the stronger individual cast from both Colo tree and the changes makes it more likely for Bru Vit to work
So it's less an issue trying to get both IPs and Revenges out when you simply ignore it
There's also a non-zero chance they keep pushing more changes for Revenge based on their current stated goal, which benefits Colo a lot more than Thane
Yep, but Rev per cast is half of IP - Thane claps a lot more thanks to blast, and had excess. Now if you cant press that IP and get as many resets, you get the thing where you now got to press revenge more - costing more rage, that you dont have as much of, as it disapeared into the IP that didnt return on investment. Less Slams, less claps, less slams.
edited for clarity of funciton
It kinda balls on for thane. Col already was based around Rev echonomy, not the SS procs as much. With the changes of said eco, Col is more already set to enjoy it.
I havent tried Thane a lot on PTR tho, so cant say either way, if it is clunky or not atm. But Col plays fine. Just gotta pool the rage.
I hope nex season col shows up
I tryed col a cpl weeks ago in a 9 cinder, was ok but i was losing agro to a lock pumpin 7+m
Ah, nothing you can do about that. Had a run with a lock doing 12m, I was just "welp, stand in melee and pray I get threat"
Basically the same as MM hunter ST nuking a target for the same amount as ppl do AoE
But, at least then I can taunt :v
Anyone have any WA recommendations for tracking shield block/ignore pain? I like the Luxthos pack but hate all the icons/abilties
Spider mama dies tonight 
yo in the magetower for prot wars, on stage 2 with krull whats having him heal a huge amount?
im looking at wowhead but i dont see it
The Twisted Reflection cast iirc
Makes it so any damage you deal to him heals him instead
You can actually spell reflect it
So you become effectively immortal outside the tank buster mechanic
or getting infernal'd
You've actually gotten past the hard part of the fight if you're in Phase 2; you just have to reflect that cast, not die to tankbuster, not get yeeted,
and that's it
99% of my mage tower deaths in DF were from getting yeeted
is there a cyrce's circlet's upgrade this week past 658?
No
if you do a little bit of hacking into blizz's servers and modifying the item data there is, but uh
Can't say that sort of action is condoned
Trying col , idk if im doing it wrong seems less dmg than thane on live
You're 100% doing it wrong, then
Col does more damage even in ST; it does loads more in AOE thanks to Demolish stacks and Revenge trucking
You're aiming to press Revenge as much as possible in AOE
You actually can skimp off on TC casts, mostly using it to keep rend going to fuel bloodsurge, so more revenge casts
Ask your self, are you pressing Rev, if no - it better be because you are pressing demolish 
Not necessarily. All my thane sims and logs are a lot higher then my colossus
If it was just raw damage then yes, but thane beats colossus in a lot of situations now.
I think the only real upside for colossus currently is burst?
If Thane is simming higher, generally that means you're simming ST, don't have enough Crit (Colo scales even harder with Crit than Thane), or are just running poor talents
Colo just straight out does more damage because of Demo stacks as soon as 3 targets exist
it's not even close
I mostly raid so yeah, I’m simming ST
ya rev and demo are my top 2
My thane beats colossus in raid by about 50k
then SS and rend
Yeah, for ST, Colo will still generally outDPS if you're in bis haste/crit, but it's not nearly like it is any time 3T exist
but it's close enough that RNG often makes the difference
for the 2 fights there's no adds
Even the slight existence of like Rash adds and the likes skyrockets Colo past
Hmmm yeah I but also thane execute is so much better then colossus execute
So then you’re getting less aoe on rash because execute exists
colo execute gives stacks of demo
Also more passive aoe from thane
It does, but i simmed both execute builds and thane beat it by a gap
If it beats it by just a gap, it means Colo will beat it in the actual encounter because of the ability to farm stacks on the adds when they spawn with revenge
I wouldn't be surprised if adds are dying too fast for that to matter in Heroic, but it's just how things break down with Colo once AOE comes into play
Ahhh I’m not simming close
and you're probably not playing colo in mythic just because safer
It mmight beat it in a really short fight but I’m simming 5mins for mythic so dunno
and myth raid tanks can't beat the allegations smh
Yeah
I don’t play colossus in mythic
But thane outsims it anyway, as you said farming stacks probably beats it though
Yeah, I think the times I've peeped you it's been Thane every time
What allegations lol
Stalking me 😜😘
A lot of the myth raid tanks go to try and parse in Heroic
I've beaten most of them at like 615 ilvl on parses on Heroic
they're not beating the allegations that career raid tanks can't press buttons smh
I have a hobby in seeing how many career M raid tanks I beat with my extreme laziness in playing the game
I haven’t parsed in heroic in a while but I think they’re all pink 😉
i think yours aren't pink ranking anymore last I recall checking, but historical they were at some point I'm pretty sure
i've been checking the raw rankings from time to time
I don’t even know if I’ve done heroic since pre .7
Too lazy, they stopped me needing to when they gave us the alt catchup
I don't M raid, so Heroic's the highest I go
I cba playing on a schedule like that
Yeah we only do 2 days 2.5hours so not too straining
i don't even like going "hey guys, wanna play in 30 mins?"
Is there a macro that casts champion spear on target? I have it selected to cast at player, but I want to be able to do it at r ange
Yeah I’ve only raid logged for like 10 weeks
It'd be considered automating/botting the game, so no
No, don’t believe so.
You can do at cursor etc but not on target
Reason player is allowed is because you get to determine your own position and it's always 100% known by you
I am just leaving it at feet than.
Yeah I just do spear and ravager at feet
@pallid quiver I might try to go to our guilds weekly heroic if I can be bothered and try colossus execute.
Didn’t realise the sims weren’t accurate because of the stacks.
It's more that for any encounter that has adds, you can get free stacks from Revenging them when they spawn
By the look of things currently I’ll probably be playing colossus in 11.1 anyway, I just play thane because it’s a brick wall in mythic.
I probably rather colossus gameplay, but can be a bit squishy at times.
Just simply pull bigger smh
It's so funny how Colossus is tankier the bigger you pull because Revenge stonks
You feel a lot more unsafe, but you really ain't. Healer just gets less over healing done on you 
I haven’t done a lot of m+ at all this tier
Kinda just get the achieve for token and farm vault. That’s about it.
Might try more if I can be bothered next tier.
Would recommend m+, but I can't. Let's 🙏 next season is more fun
I am turbo struggling with ansurek boops, does Dracthyr flap work on these things
The grabs in p2 ?
Yeah the combo of positioning/grabs/ousts are fuckin me up
You can use everything that it is usually used on grabs
Dracthyr, intervene, charge, heroic leap
Personnally I was fury and didn’t bother trying to prevent the grab, so I wouldn’t know if I would as tank
i went dracthyr for prog cuz it made it braindead easy so yes it works
My leap is reserved for web bridge so I can get up quick since my platform wants to be first pull, charge is really iffy cuz both the adds are on the edge and intervene CD just gets me fugged x_x
Definitely considering teh dractyhr angle
I also was on rush duty until we figured out our Druid can do it as quick
mannn that new pwar on ptr still feels awefull
i really hope they change it a bit more still
well yeah still the rage regen dosnt feel as nice as in s1
and overall much slower play
thats okay for me but a tiney more tuning in the rage reg. would be nice currently feels like u need to pray to 3 diffrentgods for a shieldslam procc
so go to the forums and say that
is there an EU version of the link in the pin too?
yes, but they dont look there
just lvl a trail char to lvl 10 on us
and post on the forum there
allright
i hope they adjust it before launch, i dont wanna play prot paladin
u will be playing that or vdh if u care about meta
If you want to play meta prepare minnimum 3 char
And once meta is found play the one (if one of the 3 is meta)
Until next tuning patch and pray it is one of the char you have
Don’t take first weeks data to guess meta bc raid prog, you would play bdk this season if you chose based on the first weeks
whatever gets large buffs during 11.1.5 prob
still doesn't work for me, I've left exile reach, visited few places in stormwind and nothing 

but some trolls can post their shittakes that these changes are good 
Try making a second char like DK or somrthing that starts with higher lvl
is ravager fixed yet?
Yes but not for you
Eeh,everyone has their own expectations.
We're just too try hard.

I think execute should just kill the enemy, for example
Agreed. Would make progress so much easier.
But now I have to rely on just trying to Spell Reflect every boss mechanic and hope Blizz forgot something so Spell Reflect would one shot it.

i mean fuck
but i get it, its like how we can critical block
2m no cost cd vs offensive resource dunp
image how low base dps would have to be if it was 100% execute from 10% every time
For raid you play what your team needs a raid buff or if there’s a fight-specific cheese
I’m playing vdh next tier because our havoc is taking a break from wow

Hi jakey
hi
I usually just go with protW even with our shitty utility. We have shout so theres that. I played BDK for Ovinax mythic only, now for queen mythic it's nice to be able to have the essence played by a tank that can skip the ring.
I'm interested in VDH but I always heard it's lackluster due to CDs. Our VDH had issues with tanking princess mythic due to massiv dmg output
he said he doesn't have a CD for every rotation
Does he take 1 or 2 busters
idk, it was 3 months ago :kekw
iirc he started tanking and pulled the boss around, i only taunted the debuff. So i guess he took 2?
Did you do the red eyes part
Or I guess basically who took first buster
That person takes 2
Either way he should have CDs
Fel dev is like 30-40sec
Brand is 1min or 45sec with 2 charges
Sounds like he was just sending cds for damage and then complaining about it
yea he was new to tanking
Ah
I think he played the harder part
but i was fresh in the guild
so i was tasked with the easy stuff
I have to deal with that to an extent next tier since my new cotank is one of our dps
But he’s like the most ethical dps in the guild while also still pumping
Dude saved my ass multiple times on fyrakk prog as ret lmao
But yeah I’m swapping off brew to vdh because I’ve played brew every tier since starting wow in SL, and I really wanted a break. Combine that with us losing our havoc one trick
“I can provide DH buff :)”
Tbh I wanted to play ppal but I’d rather keep my new cotank on what he’s most comfy with if possible and pally is his main
Col still shit in current ptr build
goiing throuugh a bunch of ps1 games and i forgot HOW ancient that console is now
i rem embered it was bad, but holy crap
Like physical copies or just browsing online
testing out what i have avialable to me
I thought about buying a gameboy advance or a Nintendo ds lite recently
But the games are so expensive
and like, i forgot that its 480p, at best, prolly 240p most times, and if its 3d, its got some unholy comination of, draw distance, lighting, frame rate, wobbling textures, bad textures, bad (annoying repetive) audio in general, long load times, some games are 3 lives GG thats it its over, heres the password, only option..... 9999SD8D8JKJK SDF89D92349DS 2909894323DFSKFDSK34 F SDF90DF9SDF9234
i forgot HOW bad ps1 truly is, im gunna have to skip to ps2
this is just unbearable, every one i've tried this week has been horrific bassical
no it needs more buffs
proccing avatar from IO grants 10 rage
even if avatar is currently already active


so what you're saying is shield wall is now rotational for rage gen
with IO, already was
but since IO was never really playable
but with 11.1 it being playable for colossus and DA being default (unless you dont play that talnet at all)
it is quite usable for DMG (or when you gather to help you get SB up )
now, i know i will have fun if i play this, rest im not so sure, hell, even this is jank af, 30 fps bs at times.
Does Io increae current duration of avatar?
Hey what
New meta for s2 actually good dps and yoda is just dogwater 
?
yodas only played thane
I believe
did yoda say prot does dogshit dps or
Showing prot dps is like 1/2 other tanks

"but top tier tanks always know best"
but tbf
you didnt know when he did the video
if it was before any buffs, then yeah
pwar was literally dogshit
nommy how big is the rage refund talent buff for colossus
very

like
colossus has to feel better in terms of rage now
How big is the dps
3mil on 5 targets
True value
holy
which is like 500k more than on retail
and only 500k less than i do as DPS on 5 targets
Yoda also admitted that he's not very good on warrior or monk so...
we will get more buffs inshallah
in colossus we trust
Revenge meta with full crit haste build 
in colossus we trust
Is this with
Revenge does 25% more dmg but costs 10 more rage but doesn’t cost 10 more rage
Yes it is

Is that fucking arterial bleed I see

Hows Thane
bad

this is so fucked man think about if I was color blind(im not)
would be a skill issue otherwise
Also
Colossus does slap
Spear?
ye spear sims high now
Even in live
roar is just as playable and better for frequent burst
Revenge a button I barely hit to big slapper 
Time to swap revenge and tclap bindings
stop
well SW - avatar ye

but also
thane is down bad
max dmg rotation vs dummies 2.2mil
just after 2nd cds

overflow working now 
i would say to not trust dummy tests but you have to remember
the prot war sim is literally nommy playing your char for 5 min for you

and telling you how much dmg it does

real
Thane buffs soon 
bruvit will handle all Mashallah
Yeah
okay time for vaults
Spamming shield charge 

demolish dr, colossus passive dr, and bruvit will carry us to meta tank. In colossus we trust
Haste <= crit now 
Colossus passive dr to 30% next note
maybe til 25%
but prob not after
Me with 13% crit on live 

Geared for fury cuz bad

ngmi
Hey cool that’s exactly how next seasons dinar will feel too!!

don't particularly care since trinkets are shit now
if it was grieftorch-tier I'd be more upset
So hype to get my bis mythic weapon only for last boss prog (or maybe even after ce)
Wish they’d make it like week 10 or so atleast
yeah it shouldn't be week 17 or whatever
But aye Gz non the less!
So what is an educated view on prot war m+ performance and likely position ie top 1 or 3rd best etc. in 11.1? Yoda put us as I think 5th. We got new buffs today but I am not able to assess the impact of those
stop thinking about rankings and thing about do u enjoy playing it
Thinking about it because of how much meta steers invites etc
And even more importantly I Ike to watch videos on spec specific tips for M+ runs and content creators don’t do any for non-meta specs
if thats all u care about i suggest u make a vdh or ppala
Thanks, it’s not all I care about but I feel it is difficult to improve in M+ without watching guides from ppl who run them really well and explain their choices incl when to use which defensives etc, and currently this is only done for ppal which is a shame imo.
the only way to improve in M+ is to run keys over and over again
ideally, with the same group of people (which is also the best way to play the minigame that is M+)
especially if you are playing off-meta
When I play my ppal I learn alot from yoda’s guides where he explains how he plays and why he makes those choices (ie when to use which defensive, which changes to talents for a particular dungeon etc.), and then I play better myself.
this is how my group does it (since I play BDK). I just look up one of the top RIO BDKs and find which one is running with a comp closest to ours
copy their route and go from there (sometimes theyll have a vod and Ill watch it to get a idea)
after a couple of tries, you quickly figure out what is dangerous for you in a pull or boss, and then you can apply your toolkit to meet those issues
i've been playing whatever tank my guild needs the most for a particular patch, wether a buff / a mass grip etc...
what would you say are the pros from going warrior next season? (besides the buff)
0 for raid
literally if u dont need the buff
u play bdk, monk or bdk
or ppala i guess
tank war in raid is solid on its own
but in the context of raid buffs and group comp (Mythic only), its prob one the least useful of the tanks
just cause War DPS is generally solid so you bring 1 or 2 of those
with the caveat that group comp in a raid only matters if you're super pushing mythic early. you can do cutting edge with anything
but any CE guild can make it work with a Prot War
100%
there may be a time when you might need one tank to go Blood for a boss if grips are required
but thats about it
its not just grips
the amount of mechanics they can just immune with ams
or just heal through with DS
true; but you can make it work with a Prot War
even if BDK is stupid strong in a raid setting
it's the case yes, but those type of talks don't add much
yer but we are going away from his question, his question was what are the pros of bringing a warrior
oh, absolutely nothing
theres literally compared to other tanks none

if you like the color brown on raid frames
only if u like it thats like the only pro
the question was because personally i like warrior more than the others
tbh, thats a very big pro
probably the most important pro
i mean, you play the game for fun, right? so if it's the most fun to you, that's enough reason 🙂
just wanted to see if the pros from going war outweigh the pros of other classes adding the personal factor that i like warrior more
no; if you like warrior, play warrior
i have more fun actually facilitating my guild to prog easily by playing a tank that makes their life easier
but i do have personal preferences
what guild rank is your guild
so, question stands,
cause that matters

i guess thats a personal question then. Prot War doesnt bring much
especially if you have DPS warriors
and it doesn't matter, what guild i'm on, the pros of warrior tank, don't matter what guild i'm playing
good joke
like Jailer was notorious for hitting like a semi truck
but... BDK also existed at that time XD
100% DRW uptime OP
we were one of the 3 that could tank it before nerf
and by 3 i mean sense was like the only pwarrior
so monk, bdk and sense
were able to tank it pre nerf
also, early Vault prog double prot was the play till like Broodkeeper
but that mightve been a bad meta read honestly
so the pros to bring warrior is for some cool spell reflect tech
there never is any
since the shout was nerfed long ago
i remember juggernaut
played fury on that patch
and also made a stereo sayan weakaura that would cut to different parts of the stereo sayan depending on juggernaut stacks
good ol times
If only arms was still like this
we are on the wrong channel though, let's make prot warrior like this instead 😄
but i'm sure there is a balancing reason my zug zug ooga booga brain can't reach yet
Remember when we had gladiator stance. That was fun.
Traitor, I miss bjorn (I’d hit you with Madge stoat emote but I’m being censored)
we cant have two Prot Warriors!
Who would tank the boss?

fwiw our execute hits harder than theirs
The issue is running the execute talents nukes our defensive power. It’s fine for farm but kinda troll if you are serious about mythic prog
Basically the thing I hated about pali in DF
but its fine if you are a passenger princess
like, you prob couldve run those talents for Queen Prog right?
u can still talent spb with exe talents
You need shield block up for it to do anything
yeah for sure
Well I guess it will help without technically
you dont super need ED for raid block uptime
any suggestions on stat on crafts? like a certain value of versa to have
haste + highest simming stat
or if you also play a DPS warrior spec, just craft for that
couldnt you just do this?
Nah you need to drop indomitable for dhield charge damage 

my huntard in nya
hear rumors plunderstorm is come to xbox
something about there is icons for it
yogi spreading misinformation again
nope, been over this story many times before
carry N nya group to final boss
we spend lik, 7 8 hr waiting on some dude, (who never showed)
never kill nya boss till nerf
pretty much all it was was macro the pet to attack with my shots and abilities so it would get more casts
oh the plunder storm thing, no, i seen image of that, like on twitter or somethin
look like xbox to me
hi plunder deez
controller icons for wow has existed for a long time
like 10 years at this point
they are just finally using it in plunderstorm
i just get excited at thought that wow is on xbox
is like, you can do it, but you only get the no addons base version i guess
might have to be its own server, players might be mad
yogi getting lied to by ai again
yeah i dont think base wow is playable
hi yogi
hi gio
nah, thats just what i wish was
imagine how hard wow would have went if it was on xbox 360 back in 2004
no lol, you just buy the year gold card for like 60 bucks
Racist
canada, after taxe, and then you can just get the bundle with chatpad mic and 1 year for i think it was 70 or 80
xbox live these days is free, what you pay for is called game pass, and that gives access to free games
as in netflix style
Hi yogi
you pay for the service to acess them
I love you ara kara video
then you can accees them for free
new gets added and taken off, and many many times is the very latest and new games
Will you be making a pt 2
as well as old good classics
they had the brand new stalker day 1 on that
few month ago
no prt 2, the footage lost to time
i doulb and triple checked
part 2 this season 2 surely
i can extremely easy see the value of game pass, its just not my preferable thing
you could make an entire youtube channel of noting but game pass gameplay videos and make money streaming it
when does wow go on gamepass
when it goes on xbox
series s x only, ps5 and ps5 pro
or if plunderstorm is 365 and beomes popular, or another blizzard game goes viral
Anyone tried fury? Is it fun?
Got my 2nd 2 hander in vault this week so might give it a shot
Im a arms enjoyer
what item level is s2 anyone got a end of dung thing
i keep thinking about this sentence. one of the best parts is that the 360 wasn’t even out yet in 2004

That just means it would’ve gone even harder
SO hard
around time of wow basically
in those times i saved up to by geforce 6800 gt
In those times I was in kindergarten/first grade
Yogi how old are you again
atari 2600 old
50+?
no thats like, arcade days
I wouldn’t know
aside from like NES i wouldnt go further back in time than the ps2
i tried a whole whack of them for ps1 this weekand tons of them where BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
PS1 has the best games change my mind
Hello all, I'm a returning player after an almost 10 year break. Playing prot warrior currently after spending the earlier portion playing VDH.
I have a question about UI which I have been changing a lot especially as I progress into higher keys.
The moment bartender became a thing I started moving my bars up closer to my player so I understand the concept of keeping things close to keep from to much eye movement. However with a lot of the premade minimalistic UIs I find that I don't understand how certain things can just straight up not be on your screen. Anything that has 0cd I get, but what about when it has some kind of proc. Execute and revenge both have procs for example but I see many warriors not showing them at all.
Can someone help me understand this?
you just have a weakaura pop up when you get a proc
That makes sense. I'm trying quazi UI and by default it does show buffs that come and go. I guess it's just easier to see the ability shine
Basically you understood you want the important thing close to your char to keep it in périphéric view, you can hide stuff useless like your kick if you track group kick etc
Once you are used to your spec you can remove even more stuff
You track your group def cd ? You don’t need to see your own at 2 different position
Also maybe this’ll change next patch but we basically don’t care about revenge procs at all, doesn’t change your priority
Yeah revenge has no cd and is based on rage, so you just need to see your rage
Same as having the button ignore pain visible
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hey guys, perpetual noob here; i understand our top secondaries are haste and verse, but why do the top tanks on raider.io have haste and then something thats not verse. ive seen a lot of haste/crit and a few haste/ mastery. not that changing up our secondaries changes too much about how we play but im curious about the discrepancy.








