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frigid timber
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does anyone think spare meat hook is good for high lvl m+?

cerulean tusk
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It aint

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If you got nothing else, craft yourself a Alchi stone

frigid timber
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i got it in vault as myth track, still using a hero shard

cerulean tusk
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You got all gem slots cowered?

frigid timber
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currently 3.2k io and the dungeons are easy to survive; I'm considering it for a little extra damage

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yea considering the gem slot as well

cerulean tusk
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Take the gem

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And craft alchi stone, for big revenges for 25% uptime :v

frigid timber
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revenges?

cerulean tusk
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The ability

frigid timber
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i press revenge like 3 times per dungeon

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why would you be using revenge

cerulean tusk
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Sorry, you a Thane enjoyer

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for big blasts

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This the trinky in question

strong forum
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thats pretty good

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27% uptime on almost a myth transmitter

round pendant
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meh I'm doing less damage in colossus

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cause I'm bad

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lmao this mage tho

strong forum
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need to spam that revenge more

round pendant
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but then my IP runs out

torn gulch
round pendant
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panik

strong forum
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if your IP runs out youre not doing enough dmg

torn gulch
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you just ignore IP and do damage

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kekw

round pendant
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🤔

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Well IP has a timer

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regardless of the refilling from damage

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no?

strong forum
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sure

jagged gust
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yeah it has it's own gcd

round pendant
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it's fine I'll just keep running these 10s and struggling

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and eventually figure it out

jagged gust
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the struggle is the fun part

cyan bronze
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to fish for shield slam resets when you are out of tc and ss

jagged pier
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i literally said as thane u dont need to press revenge and it barely makes a difference this season

jagged gust
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God I love LFR

jagged pier
jagged gust
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empty GCDs is just practice for S2 🙂

cyan bronze
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real

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also idk where you said that

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your last instance of revenge was 16d ago, but ok jakey clueless

cerulean tusk
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Cant say I felt it, Thane gets empty GCDs on PTR? I know Col don't, if you remember to play around pooling your rage during CDs peepostudy

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I kinda just skipped playing Thane on PTR tho - not my cup of tea 🍵

small steeple
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Why do the CN collossis prot war use FbV instead of BrV?

frigid timber
cerulean tusk
frigid timber
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Are people playing colossus competitively? I’m not aware of anyone playing it over thane

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I am coming from the perspective of 100% competitive focus

cerulean tusk
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You mean in the pro scene? Prob not, but high end of warrior? Sure

frigid timber
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I mean high end m+

opal forum
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thane is better in m+ especially high keys thats for sure

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dosent mean colossus is unplayable

frigid timber
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I mean, warrior itself is unplayable atm in high end keys because everyone is a meta slave

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Super easy to tank the keys though

opal forum
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yeah thats another thing

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but most seasons are like that

frigid timber
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You just can’t compete with the util

opal forum
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1 meta tank

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the rest cant match

frigid timber
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This is my first ssn in m+ have been a pvper my whole wow life

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Game mode is less toxic, but networking being the gate is just as bad

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And meta slavers are way worse

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Mostly because there is only 1 meta comp

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At least in pvp there are a handful

opal forum
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yes the comp are very restrictive, especially since aug

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pvp raid and m+ all have their different pros and cons ahah

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pick ur poison

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toxicity, forced schedule or meta slave

small steeple
strong forum
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cuz stupid

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BrV is insanely more valuable then FbV

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cuz the dmg from outburst already fuels into the newly acquired IP

small steeple
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Ok, thats what I thought

strong forum
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FbV is just details bait

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like sure it heals you

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but BrV is what keeps you alive more

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cuz your total dmg taken is vastly lower with BrV

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especially on lower target counts

small steeple
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I've noticed, CN players typically go for these feelycraft talents, for basically every tank spec

strong forum
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yes

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CN does completely different shit than EU/NA

small steeple
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It's so odd that they run these mathematically less optimal/worse options yet still perform at such a high level. Are they changing talents on logout to mess with people? Or actually using these?

strong forum
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its a team game

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your few talents and such wont impact that

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AT all

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like on a personal level sure, but it wont make or break a key in most situations

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theres been tanks who play literal clown rotations

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but as long as they play the dungeon

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it has little impact on key success

pallid quiver
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There's a lot more that goes into the game than just mega optimizing very miniscule shit that really, does not matter

cerulean tusk
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Nome handle? Nome handle gladge

pallid quiver
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We can tell you that Ravager over BSV is an objectively better choice, as you will take less damage with proper play and no mistakes, unless you can plan around it

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but like Sense will also tell you,

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Ravager is not gonna make you time a key

cerulean tusk
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I am in camp, BSV might save you, rav will not - if you die the key is dead. Security blanket is neato

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Then we can argue all day about actual rav value to defencivness and so on

pallid quiver
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Every class in the game has so many mechanics and ways to interact with mobs/casts/etc, and that's just classes

Just look at the various mob zips/z-axis shenanigans/etc that are entirely class agnostic people do

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As long as you have a sheer baseline of power going into the class, known as spending your talent points at all, you likely can push real high keys as long as you properly interact with the content

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There's honestly a non-zero amount of effort that goes into the talent gates to make sure you get at least a raw baseline of character power

round pendant
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that was better

strong forum
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getting there

cerulean tusk
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Get on my level

strong forum
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once you learned the ways of colossus

round pendant
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these are +10s

strong forum
round pendant
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lol

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I just feel like I'm gonna die constantly

cerulean tusk
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Ye, Col feels a bit scarier for sure

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but ya safe

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dont worry

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Health is a recourse that your healer handles okayge

round pendant
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sometimes get rage starved to fuck on bosses

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idk what to do in that scenario

strong forum
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not oversend

round pendant
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other than panik

cerulean tusk
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Do you remember to not dump rage into IP?

chilly brook
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Idk bosses ez

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Much less chance to overcap or overspend it feels like

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Unless you start using execute liberally sub 20%

cerulean tusk
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Execute = Shine, I press - you cant stop me

jagged gust
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revenge doesn't exist sub 20, embrace the dead gcd

jagged pier
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well next patch u may need too for demo stacks

cerulean tusk
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urgh

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why did you remind me

round pendant
cerulean tusk
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2m is pretty avg

round pendant
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???

cerulean tusk
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Shamans do 2.5-3m on the regular

round pendant
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not in +10s I feel like

cerulean tusk
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Ah, 10s, no prob not

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things just die

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lots of dead air

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Maybe if you keep pulling bigger into bigger, non-stop, bosses into trash

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(or have a hunter pull all the mist gates constantly in mist keks)

jagged gust
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This is more your typical 10

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
cerulean tusk
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Billion DPS, aight, time to nerf warrior again

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Report sent to blizz, marked with "thanks Lue"

pallid quiver
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your typical 10 involves people barely scratching 1m DPS and the tank getting out DPS'd by the healer

cerulean tusk
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Some times I wonder what keys you guys are doing

pallid quiver
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I haven't done any in a hot minute; I sometimes hit heroic raids on some of my alts

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It's rare anyone ever breaches 1M on trash when they say they're padding on trash.

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most heroic pugs around have their DPS peak at like 600k ST DPS at 63x ilvl

jagged gust
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yeah that sounds pretty typical from my experience too

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A couple outliers parsing blue but mostly grey/green

pallid quiver
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I'm always concerned by the grey parses who never died or even got mechanics

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I just straight up don't understand, and it'd be rude to ask.

cerulean tusk
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In my experience, thos are ppl who for one reason or another, physically or mentally, can't perform better.

But they usually great ppl and having a blast, as long you dont mention it.

jagged gust
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I had a guildie like that, they were an officer's friend so I really tried with them but eventually just gave up, some people just weren't built for gaming

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But yeah, that's always the tradeoff

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Good vibes, no skill

pallid quiver
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They're just incapable of interacting with the game because their ego is just so broken because they can't possibly be anything other than God's Chosen to Bring Forth Glory to the People

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I know the other category you describe exist

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I see them post and talk

strong forum
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i think

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couldve been a 13

cerulean tusk
# pallid quiver I know the other category you describe exist

PuGing got some of that sure. But that insecurity stems form lack of mastery and frustration over one thing or the other.

I played with people who got distresses that affect things; some are just humble and feel badly about ruining others gameplay. Others have been totally in denial, ignoring factual information proven by datapoints. The more they are pushed, the more they lash out - it is a coping mechanism.

In PuGs, the loudmouth will be the one that catches your eye. Especially if they are combative about facts. Yet, sour comments, based on believing PuGs in general are 'the bad type', really hurts the second type. As it easily becomes the norm to treat people like lesser for their inability to perform in the video game based on this thought train. The imprint is real. It is the same as the 'server A or B is bad ppl' logic. Got to try to avoid it, if you not meme'ing.

So don't hate on this group. Sure be annoyed, be it over their skill or lack of decency.

Still, better if you just distance yourself from any situation where it appears and avoid to talk down about someone in an unknown situation.

Make WoW a better place for the ones that already struggle gladge

pallid quiver
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you're acting like i engage with most anyone

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I generally just don't say anything in raid until it crashes and burns

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I cannot be assed to interact with people; that's why I'm in pug land

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Everyone joins for whatever reason they're there for

cerulean tusk
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It is is more generic, for any reader. Spreading my thoughts on how to handle things.

pallid quiver
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If I'm pressing buttons best I personally can, idgaf

cerulean tusk
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why cant pwarr play with 80% haste, like BDK can?

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fbm

cerulean tusk
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Actual no changes for BDK this round either. Huh.

torn gulch
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they are advertising prot changes from last week this week as well kekw

karmic plinth
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frothing berserker change is actually quite nice

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more incentivised to press revenge over IP when we are lower rage

narrow jay
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A lot of revenge changes does that mean colossus will be really good?

strong forum
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yes

karmic plinth
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difference between the two will be smaller

strong forum
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well colossus aoe will go turbo ham

karmic plinth
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well colo will crank it's hog on damage

jagged gust
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the barbaric training buff was awesome to hear

cerulean tusk
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Well, larger, no? I seen no Thane buffs

toxic pewter
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Thane is old news

cerulean tusk
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You are old news

torn gulch
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i'm still a thane enjoyer

karmic plinth
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thane will deffo send revenge more too

toxic pewter
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Nothin worse than a thane enjoyer tbh never liked it since the beta

bleak breach
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Apb so toxic

toxic pewter
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Just tellin it like it is

bleak breach
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Let em play thane

toxic pewter
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That partly why this season 1 was so unenjoyable to me

jagged gust
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typical vulpera attitude

bleak breach
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^

toxic pewter
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One of the worst first seasons of any xpac can remember

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Even sl s1 was much more fun

bleak breach
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I just play thane because it’s better atm lol

jagged gust
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That I don't disagree with

bleak breach
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If colossus takes over I’ll switch

jagged gust
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this season has been balls

bleak breach
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Yeah, admittedly I’ve only really raid logged since about the halfway point.

toxic pewter
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War within a resounding failure of an xpac so far which is a shame but maybe next season will make it better

bleak breach
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I wouldn’t say a failure, I really enjoyed it early.

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They just didn’t really add any content

jagged gust
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I dunno, a goblin-centric season sounds pretty fucking lame to me

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My hopes aint high

toxic pewter
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Definitely feels like a “stop over” xpac. Like we just doing this shit to get to the final cooler destination which midnight will be

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And the numbers don’t lie most agree

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Most can’t even remember the name of the continent we are on in this xpac if you asked them

jagged gust
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khaz algaz or somthng?

bleak breach
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I was about to say dornogal hahaha

jagged gust
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The main baddie is foot lady

bleak breach
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I actually thought it was really interesting early, but yeah we just haven’t really got any new content past week 4 yet

jagged gust
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I tried to get invested but the SL storyboard really did some lasting damage

bleak breach
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In fairness what I thought was interesting is probably more the big changes like hero talents rather then story.

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I think it’s been a pretty good raid though

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We’re going to come just short on CE I think sadly.
We should get 7/8 this week. Had too much interrupted raid over Christmas with 3 weeks off and then struggled to get people back.

tribal wharf
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game needs another BRD or stratholme i think

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BRS

jagged gust
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Circe fully upgraded and the final raid buff being activated, still a month or so left

toxic pewter
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They drawing out the main story way too much and people notice it. Story is more important than people realize. Even the ones that claim it doesn’t matter often don’t understand the full repercussions of a poor plot.

cerulean tusk
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I stopped careing, all part of the Jailer's plan for his return in TWW: The Great Plan FR FR

tribal wharf
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i heard warlord of draenor was good but that was when i stopped

jagged gust
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With trailer developed by Quentin Tarantino

tribal wharf
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maybe blizzard is scared to show an actually evil pyschopathic villian

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some dis-enfranchised dude instead exiled what SL DF TWW kinda feels like

ember token
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Yet another patch note, and the 'push' towards pressing rev...

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Frothing Berserker now has a chance to refund 50% of the Rage spent on Revenge (was 25%).

toxic pewter
opal forum
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Hi, is it still 2 loot per person at the end of a m+

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2 loot per group i mean

pallid quiver
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it should be 2 loot per person

tribal wharf
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i say we need someoone who totally crossed the line

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they lost it and they are totally radicalized and nuts

jagged gust
opal forum
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sounds crazy to me

tribal wharf
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fyrak was scary sure, but we already seen the deathwing jumpscare years before

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feels like DW 0.5

pallid quiver
jagged gust
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The thing I remember him the most for was him burrowing in to the earth like a lava mole

tribal wharf
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they should have had fyrakk since the beginning of DF and made him the poster boy and he does the fire breath all expansion

pallid quiver
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So if you get a warbound item from heroic raid, it'd be a normal raid ilvl item

tribal wharf
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cuz its dragon flight, so its a dragon flying around, breathing fire on you

pallid quiver
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So yes, that all sounds normal

opal forum
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so am i just insanely unlucky to have 0 drop in 10keys?

pallid quiver
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simply be luckier, yes.

opal forum
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._.

bleak breach
pallid quiver
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Honestly, I really liked Fyrakk

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My favorite WoW enemies are always the extremely hamtastic, mega bombastic villain types

tribal wharf
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i did too but DF would have been better if he was on the box

pallid quiver
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TRIFLING GNOME, YOUR ARROGANCE WILL BE YOUR UNDOING

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Things like that

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We need more of that

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That's also why I liked my Kellogs in S1 of DF; THUNDER CRASH felt real good to hear

bleak breach
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I like the tier buffs, but it still doesn’t fix the core issue that it sucks for raid still lol

jagged gust
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typical pull to kill is looking like 2-300 with an average of 25 hours +/-5

pallid quiver
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i don't need deep, well written characters

opal forum
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i was hoping for galakrond till the very end...

pallid quiver
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i need so much ham you puke on it

bleak breach
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Seems like it will be a decent M+ tier though?

bleak breach
jagged gust
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Miss all the shots you don't take - Steve Carrel

bleak breach
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Had a big change up in leadership and team between DF and TWW probably half or less of previous team. Also dropped from 3 days and 3hours and raid to 2 days and 2.5hours so doing really well considering.

pallid quiver
jagged gust
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I'd try to talk them in to 3/week for 2 hours, or even 90 mins

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Get more attempts in with fresher faces, plus you really need either an extra day or an extra hour to get the numbers needed on average

bleak breach
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Yeah it’s tough, going to the 3hr mark is probably easiest. Gets an extra hour a week

eternal kelp
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Oh Bdk got a note

cerulean tusk
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wait what

wicked pollen
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increase damage from blood plague

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8-12%

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from the uptime buff

cerulean tusk
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Where? :o

wicked pollen
ember token
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'Datamined'

cerulean tusk
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urgh

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I will get my pinch of salt

urban bane
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8 - 12 % isnt what is written though??

wicked pollen
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its still a buff

urban bane
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it is 8 - 12 seconds

wicked pollen
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oh

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kek

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even better

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fuck bdk

cerulean tusk
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blood plague do need help tho

urban bane
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Which is a nice QoL change. Juggling that buff is annoying in places where you can't keep pulling

wicked pollen
cerulean tusk
cyan bronze
cerulean tusk
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There is the bleed build path for it

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15% more bleed dam or whatever

cyan bronze
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if you drop spellblock ig

cerulean tusk
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Wonder how much bleed dam value you can get, from skipping on revenge amp

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:)

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lots of healing

cyan bronze
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which one

cerulean tusk
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The Col one, revenge or bleed

cyan bronze
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Oh

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yeah I mean

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ig

cerulean tusk
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HueHue

cyan bronze
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if you want to troll build

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that’s so ass tho

cerulean tusk
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Hey, who knows, maybe it broken >:)

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Revenge does no dam after all

cyan bronze
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i mean it’s one of if not your highest with colossus damage source

strong needle
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me every other patch note checking in here to see if we're zugging yet

cerulean tusk
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We always zug zug

strong needle
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but are we ZUG ZUG or just zug zug

merry sluice
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tww
tank spec.

cerulean tusk
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zug zug

tribal wharf
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if the model wasnt so tall and lanky id totally go UD or normal troll, maybe heritage orc for many things

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troll racial is very strong

strong needle
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Do i gear up the DK or the DH as the o-shit back up tank? DK always looks op at the start of a patch but fall off hard (usually)

cyan bronze
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colossus seeming better and better by the day

tribal wharf
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undead i would want for between pulls in keys, but i dont think keys has skeletons

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or like, corpse explosion type targets

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i think its not tagged right or despawns or something, doesnt count some rason

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undead was more for if i played healer, as i think it restores mana

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maghar and troll racials are very overpowered i know that much, not entirely certain if the orc one is good or nah

urban bane
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bDK nearly always good for raid

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if that's a factor youre thinkin about

tribal wharf
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only speaking of horde, cuz far as i know, alliance doesnt have totally busted offensive racials

strong needle
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eh, i dont mythic raid, I just do Mythic+

tribal wharf
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just some good defensive ones for ally

strong needle
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i heroic raid and then get to 3400ish io and go on vacation til next patch

blazing cradle
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practicing and gearing my prot war, doing some 10s for now. I'm playing mountain thane, should i go for spear or roar? i see both are used

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
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But you have to like, aim it

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Meanwhile roar is very fire and forget

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If you're looking for which gives you more damage, you can just sim

pallid quiver
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If you're concerned at all about aggro, Roar is also available twice as often

bleak breach
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Out of curiosity, Will luck of the draw tier effect will we still stack crit haste or go to something else because of the crit boost?

cyan bronze
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the frothing beserker change seems so good for colossus

round pendant
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eh parsing 99s (key parses lol) in +10s as colossus vs like 93ish as thane

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I'm happy with this

pallid quiver
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It's still gonna be crit haste, especially for Colo

cyan bronze
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so much rage refund

tribal wharf
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in general i like roar more than spear because its charge in and send it and forget it

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spear requires neuron activation

round pendant
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spear sucks

pallid quiver
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roar sucks because it's not dragon roar anymore

bleak breach
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Roar is better then spear for a lot of situations, spear requires more coordination.
Spear way better for bosses though

tribal wharf
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but spear suffers the same problem i have with any class in wow that has targeted aoe

bleak breach
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I don’t play colossus anyway so doesn’t matter to me.
All my thane sims are much higher

tribal wharf
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gets caught a god damn rafter or candle or some shit, and then it spawns up there and dosent hit the enemy

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thats part of puzzle why quit

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smaller part, but with jagged metal edges

pallid quiver
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yogi please not my ptsd, i try not to think of those times

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everytime ravager goes to heaven

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many angels lose their wings

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It's a spinning axe, after all

tribal wharf
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thats a big fix i want, wher if you are in like a cave with a scaffolding or lamps and shades pictures on wall windows and shit, and thats above you and monsters dont normalyl spawn there, the game forces it down to the level you are on

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i get so mad thinking about taht shit

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happens with mage too

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then again, i will say, i know about, and put up with infinitely tall monsters in doom that block my path over a ledge :S

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just ground monsters, but any monster in doom can do that and physically block your movement

pallid quiver
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what's a ledge, ledges don't exist in doom yogi

pearl wave
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prot warrior meta incoming

pallid quiver
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They'll fat finger one of the revenge talents so it instead gains a bajillion damage and it one-shots bosses

it'll be meta for all of 30 minutes

small steeple
pallid quiver
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death strike is that button you press once per encounter, wym

cerulean tusk
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I am just here to say, if DS isnt your top dam, are you even playing BDK? Hydrate

vocal cave
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this execute keeps getting buffed but where is the rage for it

cerulean tusk
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It is to make up for the DPS loss from lost Col stacks

vocal cave
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well, gotta get bear ready for next tier

urban portal
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has nome voiced his opinion on the frothing changes

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thats kinda insane for colossus

cerulean tusk
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He been forthing all day

vocal cave
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its still 20% proc chance right?

mighty valley
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What’s the frothing berserker refund chance

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Also I presume it can’t proc on free revenges right

vague trout
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how's prot stonks looking for keys?

cerulean tusk
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Same as live, more or less.

vague trout
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aight

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ty

north atlas
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I wonder if col will be more popular now

cerulean tusk
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We pushing it hard, so yeah

frozen berry
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What’s makes Thane “good” is the excess rage to spam IP. Without that rage Thane is just categorically worse than Col

north atlas
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I guess ill take this week to really get used to col

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Any good builds yall wanna share?

pallid quiver
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You can hijack the one on Wowhead that Nome runs, though it's hard to spot

mighty valley
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Isn’t colossus being nearly as hard hit on rage as Thane is? What am I missing

pallid quiver
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There's been a lot of revenge buffs specifically, and some of the rage gain backwalking makes it

functional

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Instead of literally unplayable

cerulean tusk
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Not really, Col always been using Revenge to drive the engine. Thane been running off SS procs from TC and IP.

If the proc rate is not good enough, then Thane cant keep its engine going. It got to do something it does very little of comparably, revenge to try get the procs.

The engine breaks down, halts, and it clunks up.

pallid quiver
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Thane's still better off rage-wise than Colo, but you can actually play Colo again

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instead of when changes first hit

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and you ran into dead GCDs as Thane

hardy snow
pallid quiver
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Very initial iteration was so fucking bad, man

mighty valley
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but like. colossus also needs rage. which comes from ss

pallid quiver
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Colo baseline is getting the +3 rage on SS from a change, which helps it a bit

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You also barely pressed IP as Colo, as well, so the stronger individual cast from both Colo tree and the changes makes it more likely for Bru Vit to work

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So it's less an issue trying to get both IPs and Revenges out when you simply ignore it

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There's also a non-zero chance they keep pushing more changes for Revenge based on their current stated goal, which benefits Colo a lot more than Thane

cerulean tusk
# mighty valley but like. colossus also needs rage. which comes from ss

Yep, but Rev per cast is half of IP - Thane claps a lot more thanks to blast, and had excess. Now if you cant press that IP and get as many resets, you get the thing where you now got to press revenge more - costing more rage, that you dont have as much of, as it disapeared into the IP that didnt return on investment. Less Slams, less claps, less slams.
edited for clarity of funciton
It kinda balls on for thane. Col already was based around Rev echonomy, not the SS procs as much. With the changes of said eco, Col is more already set to enjoy it.

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I havent tried Thane a lot on PTR tho, so cant say either way, if it is clunky or not atm. But Col plays fine. Just gotta pool the rage.

heavy sparrow
#

I hope nex season col shows up

north atlas
#

I tryed col a cpl weeks ago in a 9 cinder, was ok but i was losing agro to a lock pumpin 7+m

cerulean tusk
#

Ah, nothing you can do about that. Had a run with a lock doing 12m, I was just "welp, stand in melee and pray I get threat"
Basically the same as MM hunter ST nuking a target for the same amount as ppl do AoE
But, at least then I can taunt :v

north atlas
#

This was before the last 3 rounds of updates i think

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2 or 3

dense hill
#

Anyone have any WA recommendations for tracking shield block/ignore pain? I like the Luxthos pack but hate all the icons/abilties

oak ivy
#

Spider mama dies tonight catjamhypers

cinder marsh
#

yo in the magetower for prot wars, on stage 2 with krull whats having him heal a huge amount?

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im looking at wowhead but i dont see it

pallid quiver
#

Makes it so any damage you deal to him heals him instead

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You can actually spell reflect it

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So you become effectively immortal outside the tank buster mechanic

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or getting infernal'd

cinder marsh
#

this fuckng shit

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i dont damn get it

pallid quiver
#

You've actually gotten past the hard part of the fight if you're in Phase 2; you just have to reflect that cast, not die to tankbuster, not get yeeted,

#

and that's it

jagged gust
#

99% of my mage tower deaths in DF were from getting yeeted

heavy sparrow
#

is there a cyrce's circlet's upgrade this week past 658?

rain light
#

No

pallid quiver
#

if you do a little bit of hacking into blizz's servers and modifying the item data there is, but uh

#

Can't say that sort of action is condoned

north atlas
#

Trying col , idk if im doing it wrong seems less dmg than thane on live

pallid quiver
#

You're 100% doing it wrong, then

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Col does more damage even in ST; it does loads more in AOE thanks to Demolish stacks and Revenge trucking

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You're aiming to press Revenge as much as possible in AOE

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You actually can skimp off on TC casts, mostly using it to keep rend going to fuel bloodsurge, so more revenge casts

cerulean tusk
#

Ask your self, are you pressing Rev, if no - it better be because you are pressing demolish keks

bleak breach
#

If it was just raw damage then yes, but thane beats colossus in a lot of situations now.

#

I think the only real upside for colossus currently is burst?

pallid quiver
#

If Thane is simming higher, generally that means you're simming ST, don't have enough Crit (Colo scales even harder with Crit than Thane), or are just running poor talents

#

Colo just straight out does more damage because of Demo stacks as soon as 3 targets exist

#

it's not even close

bleak breach
#

I mostly raid so yeah, I’m simming ST

north atlas
#

ya rev and demo are my top 2

bleak breach
#

My thane beats colossus in raid by about 50k

north atlas
#

then SS and rend

pallid quiver
#

Yeah, for ST, Colo will still generally outDPS if you're in bis haste/crit, but it's not nearly like it is any time 3T exist

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but it's close enough that RNG often makes the difference

for the 2 fights there's no adds

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Even the slight existence of like Rash adds and the likes skyrockets Colo past

bleak breach
#

Hmmm yeah I but also thane execute is so much better then colossus execute

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So then you’re getting less aoe on rash because execute exists

pallid quiver
#

colo execute gives stacks of demo

bleak breach
#

Also more passive aoe from thane

pallid quiver
#

So more demolish

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As well as the buffs from demo stacks

bleak breach
#

It does, but i simmed both execute builds and thane beat it by a gap

pallid quiver
#

If it beats it by just a gap, it means Colo will beat it in the actual encounter because of the ability to farm stacks on the adds when they spawn with revenge

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I wouldn't be surprised if adds are dying too fast for that to matter in Heroic, but it's just how things break down with Colo once AOE comes into play

bleak breach
#

Ahhh I’m not simming close

pallid quiver
#

and you're probably not playing colo in mythic just because safer

bleak breach
#

It mmight beat it in a really short fight but I’m simming 5mins for mythic so dunno

pallid quiver
#

and myth raid tanks can't beat the allegations smh

bleak breach
#

Yeah

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I don’t play colossus in mythic

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But thane outsims it anyway, as you said farming stacks probably beats it though

pallid quiver
#

Yeah, I think the times I've peeped you it's been Thane every time

bleak breach
#

What allegations lol

bleak breach
pallid quiver
#

A lot of the myth raid tanks go to try and parse in Heroic

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I've beaten most of them at like 615 ilvl on parses on Heroic

#

they're not beating the allegations that career raid tanks can't press buttons smh

pallid quiver
bleak breach
#

I haven’t parsed in heroic in a while but I think they’re all pink 😉

pallid quiver
#

i think yours aren't pink ranking anymore last I recall checking, but historical they were at some point I'm pretty sure

#

i've been checking the raw rankings from time to time

bleak breach
#

I don’t even know if I’ve done heroic since pre .7

#

Too lazy, they stopped me needing to when they gave us the alt catchup

pallid quiver
#

I don't M raid, so Heroic's the highest I go

#

I cba playing on a schedule like that

bleak breach
#

Yeah we only do 2 days 2.5hours so not too straining

pallid quiver
#

i don't even like going "hey guys, wanna play in 30 mins?"

bronze wraith
#

Is there a macro that casts champion spear on target? I have it selected to cast at player, but I want to be able to do it at r ange

bleak breach
#

Yeah I’ve only raid logged for like 10 weeks

pallid quiver
bleak breach
pallid quiver
#

Reason player is allowed is because you get to determine your own position and it's always 100% known by you

bronze wraith
#

I am just leaving it at feet than.

bleak breach
#

Yeah I just do spear and ravager at feet

#

@pallid quiver I might try to go to our guilds weekly heroic if I can be bothered and try colossus execute.
Didn’t realise the sims weren’t accurate because of the stacks.

pallid quiver
#

It's more that for any encounter that has adds, you can get free stacks from Revenging them when they spawn

bleak breach
#

By the look of things currently I’ll probably be playing colossus in 11.1 anyway, I just play thane because it’s a brick wall in mythic.

#

I probably rather colossus gameplay, but can be a bit squishy at times.

pallid quiver
#

Just simply pull bigger smh

#

It's so funny how Colossus is tankier the bigger you pull because Revenge stonks

cerulean tusk
#

You feel a lot more unsafe, but you really ain't. Healer just gets less over healing done on you peepoBlush

bleak breach
#

I haven’t done a lot of m+ at all this tier

#

Kinda just get the achieve for token and farm vault. That’s about it.
Might try more if I can be bothered next tier.

cerulean tusk
#

Would recommend m+, but I can't. Let's 🙏 next season is more fun

oak ivy
#

I am turbo struggling with ansurek boops, does Dracthyr flap work on these things

heavy sparrow
#

what are we doing again for mythic+ sims?

#

was it 1min 30 sec for 5 mobs?

oak ivy
sharp gale
#

You can use everything that it is usually used on grabs

#

Dracthyr, intervene, charge, heroic leap

#

Personnally I was fury and didn’t bother trying to prevent the grab, so I wouldn’t know if I would as tank

shut summit
oak ivy
#

Definitely considering teh dractyhr angle

sharp gale
tawdry dirge
#

mannn that new pwar on ptr still feels awefull

#

i really hope they change it a bit more still

sharp gale
tawdry dirge
#

well yeah still the rage regen dosnt feel as nice as in s1

#

and overall much slower play

sharp gale
#

They will not go back to s1 gameplay

#

They stated they don’t like it

tawdry dirge
#

thats okay for me but a tiney more tuning in the rage reg. would be nice currently feels like u need to pray to 3 diffrentgods for a shieldslam procc

jagged pier
#

so go to the forums and say that

tawdry dirge
#

is there an EU version of the link in the pin too?

jagged pier
#

yes, but they dont look there

#

just lvl a trail char to lvl 10 on us

#

and post on the forum there

tawdry dirge
#

allright

onyx pike
#

i hope they adjust it before launch, i dont wanna play prot paladin

jagged pier
#

u will be playing that or vdh if u care about meta

onyx pike
#

vdh becomes meta?

#

for m+ i stick with warrior anyway, it's just for raid.

sharp gale
#

If you want to play meta prepare minnimum 3 char

#

And once meta is found play the one (if one of the 3 is meta)

#

Until next tuning patch and pray it is one of the char you have

#

Don’t take first weeks data to guess meta bc raid prog, you would play bdk this season if you chose based on the first weeks

cyan bronze
hardy snow
jagged pier
hardy snow
#

but some trolls can post their shittakes that these changes are good nodders

ember token
#

Try making a second char like DK or somrthing that starts with higher lvl

sweet summit
blazing condor
#

Yes but not for you

ionic fern
#

We're just too try hard.

pallid quiver
#

I think execute should just kill the enemy, for example

ionic fern
#

Agreed. Would make progress so much easier.

#

But now I have to rely on just trying to Spell Reflect every boss mechanic and hope Blizz forgot something so Spell Reflect would one shot it.

tribal wharf
#

col time

tribal wharf
#

but i get it, its like how we can critical block

#

2m no cost cd vs offensive resource dunp

lofty warren
#

image how low base dps would have to be if it was 100% execute from 10% every time

waxen frigate
#

I’m playing vdh next tier because our havoc is taking a break from wow

jagged pier
waxen frigate
#

Hi jakey

jagged pier
#

hi

onyx pike
#

I'm interested in VDH but I always heard it's lackluster due to CDs. Our VDH had issues with tanking princess mythic due to massiv dmg output

#

he said he doesn't have a CD for every rotation

waxen frigate
onyx pike
#

iirc he started tanking and pulled the boss around, i only taunted the debuff. So i guess he took 2?

waxen frigate
#

Or I guess basically who took first buster

#

That person takes 2

#

Either way he should have CDs

#

Fel dev is like 30-40sec

#

Brand is 1min or 45sec with 2 charges

#

Sounds like he was just sending cds for damage and then complaining about it

onyx pike
#

yea he was new to tanking

waxen frigate
#

Ah

onyx pike
#

I think he played the harder part

#

but i was fresh in the guild

#

so i was tasked with the easy stuff

waxen frigate
#

I have to deal with that to an extent next tier since my new cotank is one of our dps

#

But he’s like the most ethical dps in the guild while also still pumping

#

Dude saved my ass multiple times on fyrakk prog as ret lmao

#

But yeah I’m swapping off brew to vdh because I’ve played brew every tier since starting wow in SL, and I really wanted a break. Combine that with us losing our havoc one trick

#

“I can provide DH buff :)”

#

Tbh I wanted to play ppal but I’d rather keep my new cotank on what he’s most comfy with if possible and pally is his main

north atlas
#

Col still shit in current ptr build

strong forum
#

ill check it out

tribal wharf
#

goiing throuugh a bunch of ps1 games and i forgot HOW ancient that console is now

#

i rem embered it was bad, but holy crap

waxen frigate
tribal wharf
#

testing out what i have avialable to me

waxen frigate
#

I thought about buying a gameboy advance or a Nintendo ds lite recently

#

But the games are so expensive

tribal wharf
#

and like, i forgot that its 480p, at best, prolly 240p most times, and if its 3d, its got some unholy comination of, draw distance, lighting, frame rate, wobbling textures, bad textures, bad (annoying repetive) audio in general, long load times, some games are 3 lives GG thats it its over, heres the password, only option..... 9999SD8D8JKJK SDF89D92349DS 2909894323DFSKFDSK34 F SDF90DF9SDF9234

strong forum
#

REVENGE IS FINE

tribal wharf
#

i forgot HOW bad ps1 truly is, im gunna have to skip to ps2

#

this is just unbearable, every one i've tried this week has been horrific bassical

pallid quiver
strong forum
#

proccing avatar from IO grants 10 rage

#

even if avatar is currently already active

jagged pier
pallid quiver
#

so what you're saying is shield wall is now rotational for rage gen

strong forum
#

with IO, already was

#

but since IO was never really playable

#

but with 11.1 it being playable for colossus and DA being default (unless you dont play that talnet at all)

#

it is quite usable for DMG (or when you gather to help you get SB up )

tribal wharf
#

now, i know i will have fun if i play this, rest im not so sure, hell, even this is jank af, 30 fps bs at times.

jagged pier
#

Does Io increae current duration of avatar?

strong forum
#

yes

#

nothing resets avatar

#

everything adds

cyan bronze
onyx vessel
#

New meta for s2 actually good dps and yoda is just dogwater detective

strong forum
#

?

cyan bronze
#

I believe

strong forum
#

did yoda say prot does dogshit dps or

cyan bronze
#

has only played thane

onyx vessel
#

Showing prot dps is like 1/2 other tanks

strong forum
onyx vessel
#

Buffs xeos

strong forum
#

"but top tier tanks always know best"

#

but tbf

#

you didnt know when he did the video

#

if it was before any buffs, then yeah

#

pwar was literally dogshit

onyx vessel
#

Hes also a bdk fanboi

cyan bronze
#

nommy how big is the rage refund talent buff for colossus

strong forum
#

yeah nah thats just delulu

#

everyone in the comments is memeing his BDK choice

onyx vessel
cyan bronze
#

like

strong forum
cyan bronze
#

colossus has to feel better in terms of rage now

onyx vessel
#

How big is the dps

strong forum
#

3mil on 5 targets

onyx vessel
#

True value

cyan bronze
#

holy

strong forum
#

which is like 500k more than on retail

#

and only 500k less than i do as DPS on 5 targets

kind urchin
#

Yoda also admitted that he's not very good on warrior or monk so...

cyan bronze
#

we will get more buffs inshallah

strong forum
#

in colossus we trust

onyx vessel
#

Revenge meta with full crit haste build wicked

cyan bronze
#

in colossus we trust

strong forum
#

was never different for me madjay

#

i played colossus 99% of s1 BearCool

cyan bronze
strong forum
cyan bronze
#

Revenge does 25% more dmg but costs 10 more rage but doesn’t cost 10 more rage

#

Yes it is

onyx vessel
strong forum
#

it was without instigate tho

#

instigate is big rage

#

but i wanted to test smth

cyan bronze
#

Is that fucking arterial bleed I see

strong forum
#

no

#

youre just blind

onyx vessel
strong forum
cyan bronze
#

the icons are too similar

#

Mashallah

strong forum
#

mmh yes Thinkge

#

1 is red and 1 isnt

onyx vessel
#

Hows Thane

strong forum
#

bad

onyx vessel
cyan bronze
strong forum
cyan bronze
#

Also

onyx vessel
#

Colossus does slap

cyan bronze
#

Spear?

strong forum
#

ye spear sims high now

onyx vessel
#

Even in live

cyan bronze
#

Init

#

That makes sense tbh

#

With the set

onyx vessel
#

Roar tho

strong forum
#

roar is just as playable and better for frequent burst

onyx vessel
#

Could play both

jagged pier
onyx vessel
#

Revenge a button I barely hit to big slapper critcake

#

Time to swap revenge and tclap bindings

cyan bronze
strong forum
cyan bronze
strong forum
#

but also

#

thane is down bad

#

max dmg rotation vs dummies 2.2mil

#

just after 2nd cds

onyx vessel
strong forum
#

BUT

#

thane does still use IP rotationally

#

colossus almost doesnt

jagged pier
strong forum
cyan bronze
#

i would say to not trust dummy tests but you have to remember

#

the prot war sim is literally nommy playing your char for 5 min for you

strong forum
cyan bronze
#

and telling you how much dmg it does

onyx vessel
#

Less ignore pain = squishy

strong forum
#

ye but 30% more dmg

onyx vessel
strong forum
#

also

#

this does not include tierset yet

#

cuz well, you dont get slapped

cyan bronze
#

real

onyx vessel
#

Thane buffs soon copium

strong forum
#

and tierset is bigger for colossus than thane

#

especially defensively

cyan bronze
onyx vessel
#

Yeah

strong forum
#

okay time for vaults

onyx vessel
#

Spamming shield charge wicked

cyan bronze
#

not even

#

getting crit shield slams

#

gives so much cdr on demolish

onyx vessel
cyan bronze
#

demolish dr, colossus passive dr, and bruvit will carry us to meta tank. In colossus we trust

onyx vessel
#

Haste <= crit now keks

cyan bronze
#

Colossus passive dr to 30% next notegladge

cyan bronze
#

but prob not after

onyx vessel
#

Me with 13% crit on live clueless

cyan bronze
onyx vessel
#

Geared for fury cuz bad

round pendant
#

finally got it

#

lmao

#

thanks blizz

onyx vessel
round pendant
#

was accidentally using a 619 ring instead of my crafted one all last night

strong forum
#

ngmi

dusky canopy
round pendant
#

don't particularly care since trinkets are shit now

#

if it was grieftorch-tier I'd be more upset

dusky canopy
#

So hype to get my bis mythic weapon only for last boss prog (or maybe even after ce)

#

Wish they’d make it like week 10 or so atleast

round pendant
#

yeah it shouldn't be week 17 or whatever

dusky canopy
#

But aye Gz non the less!

uncut valve
#

So what is an educated view on prot war m+ performance and likely position ie top 1 or 3rd best etc. in 11.1? Yoda put us as I think 5th. We got new buffs today but I am not able to assess the impact of those

jagged pier
#

stop thinking about rankings and thing about do u enjoy playing it

uncut valve
#

Thinking about it because of how much meta steers invites etc

#

And even more importantly I Ike to watch videos on spec specific tips for M+ runs and content creators don’t do any for non-meta specs

jagged pier
#

if thats all u care about i suggest u make a vdh or ppala

uncut valve
#

Thanks, it’s not all I care about but I feel it is difficult to improve in M+ without watching guides from ppl who run them really well and explain their choices incl when to use which defensives etc, and currently this is only done for ppal which is a shame imo.

plush tendon
#

the only way to improve in M+ is to run keys over and over again

#

ideally, with the same group of people (which is also the best way to play the minigame that is M+)

#

especially if you are playing off-meta

uncut valve
#

When I play my ppal I learn alot from yoda’s guides where he explains how he plays and why he makes those choices (ie when to use which defensive, which changes to talents for a particular dungeon etc.), and then I play better myself.

plush tendon
#

this is how my group does it (since I play BDK). I just look up one of the top RIO BDKs and find which one is running with a comp closest to ours

#

copy their route and go from there (sometimes theyll have a vod and Ill watch it to get a idea)

#

after a couple of tries, you quickly figure out what is dangerous for you in a pull or boss, and then you can apply your toolkit to meet those issues

vivid pumice
#

i've been playing whatever tank my guild needs the most for a particular patch, wether a buff / a mass grip etc...
what would you say are the pros from going warrior next season? (besides the buff)

jagged pier
#

0 for raid

#

literally if u dont need the buff

#

u play bdk, monk or bdk

#

or ppala i guess

plush tendon
#

tank war in raid is solid on its own

#

but in the context of raid buffs and group comp (Mythic only), its prob one the least useful of the tanks

#

just cause War DPS is generally solid so you bring 1 or 2 of those

granite pond
#

with the caveat that group comp in a raid only matters if you're super pushing mythic early. you can do cutting edge with anything

plush tendon
#

but any CE guild can make it work with a Prot War

plush tendon
#

there may be a time when you might need one tank to go Blood for a boss if grips are required

#

but thats about it

jagged pier
#

its not just grips

#

the amount of mechanics they can just immune with ams

#

or just heal through with DS

plush tendon
#

true; but you can make it work with a Prot War

#

even if BDK is stupid strong in a raid setting

vivid pumice
jagged pier
#

yer but we are going away from his question, his question was what are the pros of bringing a warrior

plush tendon
#

oh, absolutely nothing

jagged pier
#

theres literally compared to other tanks none

plush tendon
granite pond
#

if you like the color brown on raid frames

jagged pier
#

only if u like it thats like the only pro

vivid pumice
#

the question was because personally i like warrior more than the others

plush tendon
#

probably the most important pro

granite pond
#

i mean, you play the game for fun, right? so if it's the most fun to you, that's enough reason 🙂

vivid pumice
#

just wanted to see if the pros from going war outweigh the pros of other classes adding the personal factor that i like warrior more

plush tendon
vivid pumice
#

i have more fun actually facilitating my guild to prog easily by playing a tank that makes their life easier

#

but i do have personal preferences

plush tendon
#

what guild rank is your guild

vivid pumice
#

so, question stands,

plush tendon
#

cause that matters

onyx vessel
plush tendon
#

i guess thats a personal question then. Prot War doesnt bring much

#

especially if you have DPS warriors

vivid pumice
#

and it doesn't matter, what guild i'm on, the pros of warrior tank, don't matter what guild i'm playing

plush tendon
#

unless theres some spell reflect tech

#

or SB is busted on a fight

jagged pier
#

good joke

plush tendon
#

like Jailer was notorious for hitting like a semi truck

#

but... BDK also existed at that time XD

#

100% DRW uptime OP

jagged pier
#

we were one of the 3 that could tank it before nerf

#

and by 3 i mean sense was like the only pwarrior

#

so monk, bdk and sense

#

were able to tank it pre nerf

plush tendon
#

also, early Vault prog double prot was the play till like Broodkeeper

#

but that mightve been a bad meta read honestly

jagged pier
#

again bdk immunes allo mechanics

#

and heals itself through the rest

plush tendon
#

I am partial to BDK

#

also doesnt help I find current Prot War a bit boring

vivid pumice
#

so the pros to bring warrior is for some cool spell reflect tech

jagged pier
#

there never is any

vivid pumice
#

since the shout was nerfed long ago

jagged pier
#

theres 2 so far

#

and they are both deflects

vivid pumice
#

i doubt they will ever to a reflect tech

#

but deflecting is good enough

plush tendon
#

I still think Prot War should share the execute niche of Arms Warrior

vivid pumice
#

care to detail?

#

haven't been playing war much, since last patch i was bdk

plush tendon
#

when boss is below 35% health, Arms Warrior dps skyrockets

#

cause its execute

vivid pumice
#

well, prot also has big execute

#

just not to the moon

plush tendon
#

I believe this is a viable niche

#

and its my favorite

vivid pumice
#

i remember juggernaut

#

played fury on that patch

#

and also made a stereo sayan weakaura that would cut to different parts of the stereo sayan depending on juggernaut stacks

#

good ol times

tardy abyss
#

If only arms was still like this

vivid pumice
#

we are on the wrong channel though, let's make prot warrior like this instead 😄

#

but i'm sure there is a balancing reason my zug zug ooga booga brain can't reach yet

harsh trellis
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Remember when we had gladiator stance. That was fun.

limpid ruin
plush tendon
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Who would tank the boss?

limpid ruin
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Sure we can!

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But would get the far essence though. I’m sick of doing that

karmic plinth
limpid ruin
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The issue is running the execute talents nukes our defensive power. It’s fine for farm but kinda troll if you are serious about mythic prog

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Basically the thing I hated about pali in DF

plush tendon
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but its fine if you are a passenger princess

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like, you prob couldve run those talents for Queen Prog right?

limpid ruin
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Not really

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I need spell block to live the far essence

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Maybe set up some externals

karmic plinth
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u can still talent spb with exe talents

limpid ruin
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You need shield block up for it to do anything

karmic plinth
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yeah for sure

limpid ruin
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Well I guess it will help without technically

karmic plinth
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you dont super need ED for raid block uptime

blazing cradle
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any suggestions on stat on crafts? like a certain value of versa to have

plush tendon
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haste + highest simming stat

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or if you also play a DPS warrior spec, just craft for that

plush tendon
wicked pollen
cyan bronze
tribal wharf
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hear rumors plunderstorm is come to xbox

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something about there is icons for it

urban portal
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yogi spreading misinformation again

tribal wharf
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nope, been over this story many times before

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carry N nya group to final boss

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we spend lik, 7 8 hr waiting on some dude, (who never showed)

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never kill nya boss till nerf

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pretty much all it was was macro the pet to attack with my shots and abilities so it would get more casts

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oh the plunder storm thing, no, i seen image of that, like on twitter or somethin

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look like xbox to me

wicked pollen
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hi plunder deez

urban portal
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like 10 years at this point

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they are just finally using it in plunderstorm

tribal wharf
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i just get excited at thought that wow is on xbox

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is like, you can do it, but you only get the no addons base version i guess

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might have to be its own server, players might be mad

mighty valley
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yogi getting lied to by ai again

urban portal
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yeah i dont think base wow is playable

wicked pollen
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hi yogi

urban portal
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hi gio

tribal wharf
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nah, thats just what i wish was

wicked pollen
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hi ilovelatinx

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(i hate latinx)

tribal wharf
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imagine how hard wow would have went if it was on xbox 360 back in 2004

urban portal
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20/month for xbox live

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then 15/month for wow sub

tribal wharf
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no lol, you just buy the year gold card for like 60 bucks

cyan bronze
tribal wharf
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canada, after taxe, and then you can just get the bundle with chatpad mic and 1 year for i think it was 70 or 80

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xbox live these days is free, what you pay for is called game pass, and that gives access to free games

round pendant
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pay for free games?

tribal wharf
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as in netflix style

wicked pollen
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Hi yogi

tribal wharf
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you pay for the service to acess them

wicked pollen
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I love you ara kara video

tribal wharf
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then you can accees them for free

wicked pollen
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Make me funny happy

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🙂

tribal wharf
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new gets added and taken off, and many many times is the very latest and new games

wicked pollen
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Will you be making a pt 2

tribal wharf
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as well as old good classics

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they had the brand new stalker day 1 on that

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few month ago

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no prt 2, the footage lost to time

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i doulb and triple checked

wicked pollen
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part 2 this season 2 surely

tribal wharf
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i can extremely easy see the value of game pass, its just not my preferable thing

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you could make an entire youtube channel of noting but game pass gameplay videos and make money streaming it

urban portal
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when does wow go on gamepass

tribal wharf
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when it goes on xbox

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series s x only, ps5 and ps5 pro

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or if plunderstorm is 365 and beomes popular, or another blizzard game goes viral

unborn island
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Anyone tried fury? Is it fun?

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Got my 2nd 2 hander in vault this week so might give it a shot

plush tendon
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Im a arms enjoyer

ancient reef
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what item level is s2 anyone got a end of dung thing

mighty valley
waxen frigate
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That just means it would’ve gone even harder

mighty valley
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SO hard

tribal wharf
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i mean didnt it technically at the end q4 2004

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ah give or take 1 year

mighty valley
tribal wharf
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around time of wow basically

waxen frigate
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11/23/04 vs 11/22/05

tribal wharf
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in those times i saved up to by geforce 6800 gt

waxen frigate
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In those times I was in kindergarten/first grade

tribal wharf
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it ran wow at not 10 fps in combat

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so i was happy

waxen frigate
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Yogi how old are you again

tribal wharf
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atari 2600 old

waxen frigate
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50+?

tribal wharf
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no thats like, arcade days

waxen frigate
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I wouldn’t know

tribal wharf
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aside from like NES i wouldnt go further back in time than the ps2

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i tried a whole whack of them for ps1 this weekand tons of them where BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

tardy abyss
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PS1 has the best games change my mind

tribal wharf
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some of them are good, alot are crap

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ps2 at least

frail storm
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Hello all, I'm a returning player after an almost 10 year break. Playing prot warrior currently after spending the earlier portion playing VDH.

I have a question about UI which I have been changing a lot especially as I progress into higher keys.

The moment bartender became a thing I started moving my bars up closer to my player so I understand the concept of keeping things close to keep from to much eye movement. However with a lot of the premade minimalistic UIs I find that I don't understand how certain things can just straight up not be on your screen. Anything that has 0cd I get, but what about when it has some kind of proc. Execute and revenge both have procs for example but I see many warriors not showing them at all.

Can someone help me understand this?

remote anchor
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you just have a weakaura pop up when you get a proc

frail storm
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That makes sense. I'm trying quazi UI and by default it does show buffs that come and go. I guess it's just easier to see the ability shine

sharp gale
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Once you are used to your spec you can remove even more stuff

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You track your group def cd ? You don’t need to see your own at 2 different position

mighty valley
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Also maybe this’ll change next patch but we basically don’t care about revenge procs at all, doesn’t change your priority

sharp gale
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Yeah revenge has no cd and is based on rage, so you just need to see your rage

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Same as having the button ignore pain visible

waxen frigate
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topaz latch
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hey guys, perpetual noob here; i understand our top secondaries are haste and verse, but why do the top tanks on raider.io have haste and then something thats not verse. ive seen a lot of haste/crit and a few haste/ mastery. not that changing up our secondaries changes too much about how we play but im curious about the discrepancy.

karmic plinth
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arms wants haste / crit

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fury wants haste / mastery

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we dont care as much about the other stat as long as we have haste

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generally speaking u are fine if u are haste / crit or haste / mastery or haste / vers

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strictly speaking we are better as haste crit than haste vers