protection

[cyan bronze]

I like left

[strong forum]

for now

[cyan bronze]

For now

[quiet monolith]

I guess most people go left, but the assistants absolutely destroy me

[plush radish]

That makes me sad.

Criticism is essential for growth. People need to get out of their feelings about that sorta stuff.

[sharp gale]

but tbh after doing few keys with swarmlord it is really weak compared to every other def trinket i know, it's just the only one that is not complet shit this season that's it

[jagged pier]

Its a slightly less than a full ip on a 1:30 min cd isnt it?

[blazing condor]

u telling me i can have almost TWO IPs at the same time??

[sharp gale]

yep it's the exact same as refracting module but you have few free IPs between the cd

idk what is the amount 639, but i press IP i have 1 m

i can't believe it is 2.5 m at 639

[jagged pier]

Big defensives right there

[sharp gale]

i redid a key right now with swarmlord bc it was a long time

it just ate the hps of my IPs

[tardy abyss]

[sharp gale]

it gave me worth of 120* (i overvalued ip because priest) IPs basically, that i'm sure i press anyway even with the trinket on me

in 20 min

[plush radish]

It's just hard to see Swarmlord as bad. Especially with it scaling off haste and prot seemingly just stacking haste infinitely.

[violet ginkgo]

They just can't create things that similar to dreadplate anymore

[plush radish]

Game balance is a very hard science.

[unborn island]

What add-ons/WA's do you use to track group CD's?

I haven't bothered since a long time ago and so I'm out of date 🙂

[hazy bronze]

OmniCD or MethodRaidTools are good addons

[unborn island]

Cheers

Think Omni cd is the one I used so will go with that

[tardy abyss]

When you forget about the fact it doesnt do any damage yes lol

But with that in mind Im not sure how its hard to see it as bad

When other offensive trinkets such as Skarmorak or Mark also help with our defense

[pallid quiver]

Other trinkets also give strength, which is stronger entirely than any secondary

[unborn island]

Are there any good guides on grouping double/triple pulls as warr? Feels like every pack has at least 1 caster.

I'm talking about pugs, when they actively interrupt it's a piece of cake, but often there'll just be a caster sat halfway across the map

[pallid quiver]

Any combination of LOS, pull one caster on to the other caster, or just don't even pull that many spam casters that refuse to walk

[unborn island]

Yeah, that's generally what I try to do, but there just always feels like pulls where they're just a pain in the dick, even some easy ones like the furthers mini boss in arakara

That caster just never nicely comes to the boss to allow a clean pull

Maybe just mad cos bad 🙂

[quiet monolith]

That's on others to help

[sweet summit]

wild concept but there are four other people that should contribute towards completing the key in the most efficient way possible

[jagged pier]

no erga must all be done by tank

[sweet summit]

if you tell this to a dps player their head will explode so be careful

[plush radish]

Heaven forbid a shaman should use the best kick in the game to interrupt a caster in. It stops them going pew for a global.

[sweet summit]

this is why i like DK (mains not rerollers)

[plush radish]

I would kill for something like death grip for my warrior. like.. gimme a goddamn harpoon. I have heroic throw, it's isn't that big a stretch.

[sweet summit]

realest thibg I've read all day

[jagged pier]

want a grip play a dk

[plush radish]

Just gimme back gag order.

[jagged pier]

yer that doesnt work with a spamable ability, when we had that it had a cd

[plush radish]

I only need it every now and again.

And honestly, with how hit or miss dps and heal kicks are, I have leaned heavily into the "I'll do it myself" mindset.

[raw oracle]

I can’t count the amount of times on GB that the first pull that I’ve kicked the caster once and went for LOS with dragon only to have the rest of the group sitting in the open letting it free cast

[quiet monolith]

If only we had a magic immune for a party member, and brez, and cleanse , and sac, and a phys immune, and top DPS

[plush radish]

See, you're under the mistaken impression we're not Paladins. We just devote ourselves to something other than the light. I'm also a fire mage if you give me a a can of gas and a match.

[raw oracle]

This pyro plays goblin for sure

[plush radish]

Night elf, actually.

[raw oracle]

Would have been better if you linked some random goblin warrior mog in the transmit channel and @ me

[tribal wharf]

that ones one of the better ones i think,i just remember it added a ton on the healing meter

[sharp gale]

It’s the worst trinket ever if it did 20 m

[sweet egret]

are there any defensive trinkets of note coming in season 2?

[keen leaf]

Boy do I have news for you! They made a tank class a few years ago with this exact toolkit!

[jagged pier]

not off the top of my head, but the prioy trinket it a tank olnly trinket and will be by far our best trinket if not tuned

but not because of the defence aspect

the tooltip only tells u about half the trinket

from a hc run i did on friday and thats the damage at 593 ilvl

thats ignoring the 2-4k prema crit it gives u at that ilvl too

(4k only for a little bit)

[jagged pier]

it was like 829k or somthing i got bad gear and it wasnt a pasring run

still 99 overall tho

but im washed

[cyan bronze]

Last stand is now 10 min and shield wall is once again 30 min(or w/e)

[jagged pier]

but doing as nearly as much damage as a mandate is memes

[cyan bronze]

potentially from new dungeon

[sharp gale]

and from raid

[cyan bronze]

ya

theres this: from mechagon

but its rly ass

like 4k armor at 636 max stacks

[jagged pier]

[sharp gale]

i never saw an trinket working with armor or per attack reduction being good

[cyan bronze]

people will run it because its a """tank""" trinket

[jagged pier]

season 4 DF there was that one from the first boss of second raid

that one was good

but also pumped

[cyan bronze]

dreadplate?

[jagged pier]

ye

[cyan bronze]

ye that thing shreds

kurog trinket was nice on some tank

df had alot of nice tank trinkets

[sharp gale]

i already know the questions each tuesday/wednesdays

[jagged pier]

oh fuck off

that wasnt even good back in SLs

[blazing condor]

6 strength is shit

ofc you dont want it

[jagged pier]

[sharp gale]

yes but didn't i ask you if Trhongus finger good ?

[cyan bronze]

63k healing

[blazing condor]

yuge

[jagged pier]

too many ppl did

[cyan bronze]

more if your low hp

!!!

epic!!

120k hp

to my

10m

[blazing condor]

only fun part about ToP is the last boss reflects

rest is

well everything is but

[jagged pier]

in before deflect now or completely gone

[blazing condor]

[sharp gale]

i forgot the best trinket

[cyan bronze]

grim codex might be good?

[blazing condor]

[jagged pier]

no

[sharp gale]

it has sick animation

[jagged pier]

not again

not codex

im out

[blazing condor]

/gleave

or is it gquit

[jagged pier]

it works after mitigating literally is like 1% dR for prot

[sharp gale]

gquit

[jagged pier]

its fucking garbage

[sharp gale]

i have a macro for it

[cyan bronze]

seems kinda week

[jagged pier]

but ppl still ran it in SLs because 'it looked good on the meters'

[cyan bronze]

jakey

wtf are u talking about

[jagged pier]

the other codex i guess

[cyan bronze]

yea

u are

[jagged pier]

i dont know what dungeons are back

cba

[cyan bronze]

what

[jagged pier]

season gunn abe ass

big shkip

most likely

[cyan bronze]

ok

so why are u talking about the trinkets in it

or i guess

the trinkets not in it

[sharp gale]

i already know which one is bis

it was strong on my hunt

[cyan bronze]

lets checking go

[jagged pier]

bored

[cyan bronze]

can u at least be bored and accurate

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[cyan bronze]

does this work now

when i tested it on beta

[wicked pollen]

hi diva

[cyan bronze]

i couldnt ever get it to proc shit

[jagged pier]

i was accurate about the trinket i was talking about tho

[sharp gale]

they will fix the class balance

100%

they will not ruin motherlode

[cyan bronze]

ye u just were talking about a different trinket

[jagged pier]

i dont give a shit about class balance i give a shit about the god aweful dungeon design they have going on

[cyan bronze]

evil time

isnt there that

cinderbrew meadery trinket or smth thats good?

bugged in a similar way to dreadplate

[sharp gale]

cinderbrew tank trink has no main stat i think

[cyan bronze]

ye i just remember ppl talking about it competing with heroic and normal ilvl trinkets for tanks

during like week 1

[sharp gale]

it was the other trink no ?

[sweet egret]

emergency sip yes please

[jagged pier]

even at higher ilvl its probably less absorb than current trinkets

[cyan bronze]

idk 1 of them is buged

and works too good

and i think it was stein

[sharp gale]

the honey buzzer was Pre-raid bis

for my hunt

and the sigil from rookery

[cyan bronze]

if this works as tooltip suggests

then its giga ass

but

[wicked pollen]

[cyan bronze]

i guess maybe its ok for group dmg

hi gio57

[wicked pollen]

do aug key with me

[cyan bronze]

i really hope its not another season of either running really boring damage trinkets or really shit tank trinkets

[sharp gale]

wtf is an emergency sip

[cyan bronze]

its a sip with urgency

[sweet egret]

u scared so u drink beer

[cyan bronze]

i imagine

[cyan bronze]

holy freak

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-grizzly-bear-roar-roaring-bear-gif-25393658

[cyan bronze]

lowkey

i do hope this one is rly strong

would be so fun to do a key with my 5 friends who all embrace the power of friendship

[sharp gale]

he is boring tho

[sweet egret]

I wish I had friends

[cyan bronze]

what does it do

i miss party stacking trinkets

[sharp gale]

don't you spend money on streamer donations to compensate friends ?

[cyan bronze]

theyre cool

oce

icon

[sweet egret]

no, I just sit in lfg 🙂

[cyan bronze]

i rmbr i made so many friends with my oce set to all stat

[sharp gale]

oh friend on wow

[cyan bronze]

"wow this vdh so cool and ethical he has all stat oce im going to friend him"

[sharp gale]

idk i just sit in dornogal ppl whisp me

it's not something i need to actively do

[cyan bronze]

also

its prob a double priory trinket angle

gg

[sharp gale]

the signet ?

[cyan bronze]

ye it seems ok ish

[sweet egret]

I wanted to push for title this season

[cyan bronze]

ik it got nerfed

but

still seems ok

[sharp gale]

i remind you the cd

2min

[sweet egret]

but solo it's hard

[cyan bronze]

meh

per hit of it, assuming everyone has it equiped its 6503 your secondary and then 4x171 group secondary

[sweet egret]

and I didn't reroll pala <:

[cyan bronze]

assuming everyone equips it and syncs it, its 171x4x4

7187 stat per person collectively

unless i misunderstand how the trinket works

[sharp gale]

no i think you understand it

[cyan bronze]

maybe 1 hit of trinket only gives 1 person stat

or maybe u can only benefit from extra stat x1

not x4

[sharp gale]

it gives 171 when press at everyone who got the trinket

for 20 sec

[cyan bronze]

does it stack?

that seems kinda silly if u can stack that shit in raid

wait

LOL

[sharp gale]

idk do you have it and are EU ?

[cyan bronze]

no, na

sadly

if it can stack

assuming everyone in raid hits it synced

thats

3420 stat

[sharp gale]

3k but dogshit ilvl, will see next season ilvl

[cyan bronze]

am going off of 636

[cyan bronze]

for reference

they usually leave scaling on most trinkets alone, outside of buffing underperformers

[sharp gale]

i assume every next season trinkets are not tuned at all

[cyan bronze]

ye prob

but just a rough look for now

if its not stack capped at 5

then

[sweet egret]

we even have champions spear, just skewer someone and drag them back

[cyan bronze]

it will be dogshit in m+ because it will be way too strong in raid

i wonder if we get a cheat death trinket

next tier

i rly hope that we do, and that they do something interesting with it

[boreal heath]

If a hit will kill you stuns you for 10s instead

[tardy abyss]

Please no cheat death trinket

Thats so lame

[cyan bronze]

i mean

with the trinkets they have currently

i dont think they should add a cheat trinket

[tardy abyss]

We dont need swarmlords to repeat

[cyan bronze]

but i think generally a cheat trinket is good for m+ in general

[violet ginkgo]

we need dreadplate to repeat

[tardy abyss]

yes

[boreal heath]

Technically on ptr you can use stonescales

[cyan bronze]

what about a trinket that splits damage you take with group

reverse mass sac

that would be so poggers

[tardy abyss]

Would it

[cyan bronze]

yea

let me show u an example

[tardy abyss]

You know it would be capped right

[boreal heath]

I'm sure your healer would love u

[sharp gale]

i just saw the crit-haste ring is theater of pain, among 4 other rings

[boreal heath]

Are there any good trinks in top/mechagon/the other one

[cyan bronze]

uhh

[sharp gale]

no

[cyan bronze]

. from top

currently tuned like ass

but its neat in theory

[sharp gale]

mechagon

[cyan bronze]

its kinda hard to say idk all the trinkets from old dungeons are VERY undertuned

[boreal heath]

Is there anything super broken

[cyan bronze]

nah

[tardy abyss]

That sounds so dogshit

[cyan bronze]

broken in the sense that

its terrible

[cyan bronze]

atm

its 4k armor

[sharp gale]

it was dogshit

[cyan bronze]

at 636 maxstacks

so ye

[tardy abyss]

4k per stack and it would be ok-ish

[cyan bronze]

theres literally no good tank trinkets

[boreal heath]

Assuming it's buffed to the state it was in bfa

Like we're any of them broken originally

[cyan bronze]

dunno tbh

[violet ginkgo]

so basically the "hope" is from new dungeon and new raid right? But even then we can't trust blizz to give proper tank trinks.

[cyan bronze]

theres some really cool damagetrinkets

to be fair

that arent tuned to shit

[boreal heath]

Oh actually wasn't the cinderbrew trink kind of broken at heroic

[tardy abyss]

We will pick up dps trinkets anyway

[boreal heath]

Ilvl

[sharp gale]

give me back the fat shield trinkets

[tardy abyss]

Just like we do now

[cyan bronze]

ye it was bugged

or something

idk

i remember seeing a post about it

[sharp gale]

give me back trinkets replacing healers

[cyan bronze]

i do wonder what trinkets will floodgate bring

[sweet summit]

miss her....

[cyan bronze]

new dungeons have historically brought trinkets that are popular with tanks ig

[boreal heath]

80% dr

Damm

[cyan bronze]

(stonescales and codex)

[boreal heath]

That's like a better splinter

Tbf most tanks using stonescales never needed it

[cyan bronze]

1 time i remember i used stonescales proc to time a galakronds fall

👍

there was an incorp on far edge of map on galakrond burn phase...

[boreal heath]

And you ran to it and "died"

[cyan bronze]

ye leaped out of bubble, prisoned, cheated

didnt die tho

[boreal heath]

Only dungeon where I consistently procced cheat was rise

Shit was on cd basically on cd

[cyan bronze]

I remember I died one time and didn’t proc cheat death

Overkilled too hard

[boreal heath]

Where

[cyan bronze]

Brh

2nd to last boss

[boreal heath]

Oh the charger guy

[cyan bronze]

thought I could tank one last charge(with 3 stacks and enrage and tyr)

[boreal heath]

Should've popped everything

Stack all your CDs

[cyan bronze]

it was thru dev

[boreal heath]

Oh

[sweet egret]

smoldering titanguard ❤️

[cyan bronze]

iirc it as also like 28 or 29 BRH

[sharp gale]

I miss twilight devastation so much…

When classic bfa ?

[boreal heath]

I'm glad we don't have a cata dungeon this rotation

Historically all cata dungs have been ass

VP throne and GB

[sharp gale]

Pre-m+ dungeons*

MoP too was ass

The train too

Iron docks is the best pre-m+ in my opinion they did

[boreal heath]

EB is okay

[cyan bronze]

Throne and vp do not deserve to be throne into the same category as that abomination

[boreal heath]

GB is slightly better than VP or throne

[cyan bronze]

You are on crack and I am concerned for you

[boreal heath]

GB doesn't have chargers that randomly charge a party member on a .1s cast

[cyan bronze]

Yeah it’s grim batol tho

Nothing compares to it

[boreal heath]

Or a stacking bleed

[cyan bronze]

Chains them dumbass

[sharp gale]

at least GB is not old 1 mechs trashs/bosses just on steroid because it's retail

[boreal heath]

I did but they don't die

[sharp gale]

shadowmoon burial ground long boy boss is the best example of dogshit no mechs classic just on steroid bc retail

[boreal heath]

GB is awful for tanking

[tardy abyss]

GB is a nightmare for tanks how is that not bad

[boreal heath]

It's like have all ur defensives for every pull or die

[sharp gale]

it is design choice of the whole season tbh

tankbusters that os every 15 sec

[boreal heath]

In SV there are packs that have no tank hits and are chill

[cyan bronze]

That’s just how tanking is supposed to be according to blizzard

[sharp gale]

and i'm glad im prot because of spell reflect

[boreal heath]

What happened to smoothing out tank damage

[cyan bronze]

It’s blizzard buddy

I genuinely do think

That there isn’t a solution that blizzard and more than both 33% of tank players and 50% of non tank players would be happy with

[boreal heath]

Lower tank damage intake

[cyan bronze]

Tanks don’t die ever

[boreal heath]

I don't wanna die because I had to use all my defensives last pull

[cyan bronze]

You always now bring either highest damage tank or prot paladin

(which, I guess you already did, but now you don’t have to worry about them dying)

[boreal heath]

This season it's both

[cyan bronze]

:yippee:

[boreal heath]

Though S3 DF vdh wasn't highest dam

But you brought it cuz chaos brand+sigils

[violet ginkgo]

It’s a total lie

[keen leaf]

like damage intake? warrior damage intake is smooth as fuck lol

[boreal heath]

Until you meet the one pwar in lfg with 4s sb uptime in a 2min pull

[pallid quiver]

honestly, that's pretty smooth damage intake

Just because it's high don't mean it's not smooth

[boreal heath]

Damage still feels kind of spiky

Or well damage intake doesn't feel significantly different from df

Minus the self sustain

[keen leaf]

I think you might just be playing wrong lol

[boreal heath]

Okay maybe not on pwar since it's damage intake profile hasn't changed much. Just feels kind of bad when healer dies and you struggle to keep the pack going solo

[rancid tiger]

I mean at least in low key 10- content it feels alright tbh

Rarely does tank die first

[tardy abyss]

Depends on the pack

There are plenty of packs where you can live solo for a long time

Even in keys over 12

[untold bane]

what is the colossus m+ talent build

[wicked pollen]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/colossus/DAOAVVRRFUgEVKSUUBQNVUVEVERFVZVUQDRBAEFVVUBA

[untold bane]

earthquaker is better than boneshaker no? cdr + no dr on knockup?

[strong forum]

Longer stun is better as you still apply stun DR

Even with the knockup

[pallid quiver]

i love that knockup so much, it's so funny

It does like nothing

unless stuns have been DR'd to the moon

[tardy abyss]

The fact it also stuns with that talent is funny

[vital pollen]

How to handle the tank bustero n the 1st boss of Dawnbreaker right as the rotating line thingie goes out? I was just 100-0'd twice by it with DS and SR up. 620 ilevel, +11

[tardy abyss]

Did you not have IP up at all?

[jagged pier]

Sw, spell block, sw

[tardy abyss]

Altho even then it shouldn't kill you anyway

But what Jakey said should be enough, usually repeatable in the 2nd half

[smoky anvil]

Ran into a guy with 43% sb uptime who was shit talking everyone the whole run

[boreal heath]

Healer must have been having fun

[smoky anvil]

It’s the hardest role imo.

I’ll tank and I’ll dps, won’t ever catch me healing. Especially this season.

[boreal heath]

Healing can be chill

I can't play DPS sometimes tanks either pull too little, overpull and die or pull weirdly

[smoky anvil]

I will say, I get irrationally annoyed when tanks don't pull the 2 pack before the dragon run in GB

[boreal heath]

I get annoyed when they pull the overseer solo there

Or when they split the first pull of mists in 2

[quiet monolith]

Dps is so chill. I love arms, but can't even get invited to 10s so I just have to tank all the time

[vital pollen]

I honestly just can't find competent DPS to push into 11s. Every single key, DPS die to telegraphed AOE. Every. single. one.

Maybe DPS needs to be less chill.

[ornate topaz]

is there a set defensive cycle on mythic rashanan? first time pulling on prot warr and it seems like im not using my defensives properly because im getting slapped

[hardy snow]

there is no particular cycle, but I would advise to use shield wall on last before running, as you cant generate and spend rage when you follow boss, spellblock should be able to cover two in a row (it blocks both, magic direct hit and magic follow up dot)

[ornate topaz]

ahhh didnt know that about spell block, not me pressing it 0 times because i just figured it wasnt a spell

[pallid quiver]

Almost every single thing that hurts tanks this season has a spellblockable component

Just as a warning for the future

Ansurek Feast, Extraction Strike in City of Echoese, and Singing Steel bleed in Siege are the only things off the top of my head that actually hurt tanks that cannot be spellblocked

[quiet monolith]

Extraction strike is the bane of my existence

[bold depot]

is there some kind of bug with spell reflect or something that causes him to get 2 stacks instantly

[vague imp]

Folks, I'm 629 and occasionally will struggle to hold threat against the DPS in my group.

If I have Challenging Shout, I'm fine. If I have Avatar/Spear, I'm usually fine.

When should I use Avatar specifically? If I leap/charge in I'll use Avatar as I'm travelling. but I sometimes feel like it needs to be the first thing I do because my DPS will pop their CDs and go nuts before I've had a chance to stabilise, which can sometimes mean Shield Block is delayed by 1 or 2 GCDs.

I've 2 paladins and 1 mage in my static, at least once per dungeon one of them will die because they take aggro from me on the pull.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

[pallid quiver]

Your base rotation is almost certainly wrong considering you're having trouble getting shield block up on pull

which is done by pressing charge+avatar

[vague imp]

That's always my first action. If I have rage already, I'll sometimes use leap to engage.

[wicked pollen]

do you have a log?

[pallid quiver]

You should always engage with charge as much as possible at the end; if you already have rage and you have a charge available, spend the rage on IP before you charge

[vague imp]

I don't, no. I'll get one and come back 🙂

[pallid quiver]

It's not at all a consideration

You'll definitely want to come back with a log, since your rotation is borked in a way we can't tell off your description without seeing an actual timeline of abilities you're using

[vague imp]

Roger that, will do.

[wicked pollen]

in my experience i only struggle/d with threat when extremely undergeared (10s at 590), still learning prot and not doing rotation, or dps sending full cds as i send 1 global

[vague imp]

This is my problem, yeah. DPS popping CDs literally as I'm sending my first global.

I have previously seen tanks talk about DPS needing to give them a second to gain aggro. Is that a common thing in this expansion?

[wicked pollen]

how long does it take for you to get aggro if they send everything

[pallid quiver]

Hasn't been a thing for decent tanks in multiple expansions barring specific issues, like DPS sending while gathering or Enha Shamans frontloading tempests into a pull

A lot of tanks will ask for time, but a lot of those same tanks are also playing very unoptimally

[wicked pollen]

it just seems like you arent pressing anything

[pallid quiver]

If you start out behind, it'll be harder to recover without taunting, though it shouldn't be dramatically hard with how high aggro modifiers are on tanks

[wicked pollen]

hi luerce

[pallid quiver]

Howdy there, Gio

[wicked pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-yippee-gif-yippee-cat-gif-12933084691297211872

[strong forum]

Cotank has to taunt ASAP otherwise tanks will get 2 stacks

That's just how the fight works

[vague imp]

It'll take me 1-5 seconds really. If I have Shout, it's much quicker then taunting/clapping. Avatar/clap is also pretty rapid.

I will almost always have Avatar available for the pull as well.

I'll hopefully get a log tonight, which will also hopefully not expose me as a bad tank 😂

Generally it is just that though: rer paladins popping everything in the first global.

[strong forum]

Can't say I've had that experience ever of dps popping early and dying to threat

But I also don't pug frequently enough

Only when a new pack came in, and then didn't have a global to proper hit said new pack while the dps are hitting the old pack

Which is 100% a me issue which sadly happened yesterday @hearty cradle died to it

[hearty cradle]

When the fuck did I join this discord

[strong forum]

No clue but apparently you are

Xd

[hearty cradle]

I had aoe running and they got tagged by the damage so

[strong forum]

Yeah

[hearty cradle]

Bad warrior tank or?

[strong forum]

Aoe taunt was still on cd and so was tc

[vague imp]

It doesn't happen in pugs 😂 only in my prog group.

[hearty cradle]

Reroll pala

[strong forum]

So they just waltzed right past me

[vague imp]

Interestingly, actually. It never happens in pugs :S

[strong forum]

Soooo

2 solutions

You send your shit early cuz you know they send early

Or you tell em to wait properly for shit to be grouped

[hearty cradle]

Maybe did you consider that the mage player playing a melee class perhaps didn't wait

Because that seems very likely that it was probably my fault

As mage I have images I have a ton of leeway

Same with SP, fade helps a lot

[strong forum]

Nah that one was on me ram

Same with the havoc

[vague imp]

Roger that. I do this already a lot of the time. I think plan B may cover me the rest of the time 😂 cheers.

[strong forum]

Having 3 mobs just past me whilst im right there

Is kinda illegal

[hearty cradle]

It was an antisemitic attack nom

You can't taunt off racism

[strong forum]

[lone wren]

haste mastery or crit/ver shield? both 626

[wicked pollen]

haste

[lone wren]

thanks

[ionic fern]

I had a pug yesterday where the dps'er just kept pulling random stuff that we didn't need. I went with it for half a dungeon and then just stopped moving after he pulled yet another pack and watched him die and go "tank??"

[wicked pollen]

should have recorded

[ionic fern]

Pugging is fun.

[wicked pollen]

its not!

what did he do after

[strong forum]

Just post dps meter at end and ask "dps??"

When you're there at 1.5mil overall and and they're below you

Same energy

[wicked pollen]

idk how you consistently do more rhan 1m on colo

i have to work so hard to get there

[strong forum]

[wicked pollen]

are you just spamming revenge during packs

[strong forum]

Yes

[wicked pollen]

even though tc is better

[strong forum]

Tc hits for like 150k

Revenge hits for 750k

🙂

[wicked pollen]

wait

[strong forum]

As Colossus*

[wicked pollen]

i forgot they have different prio

[strong forum]

You only use tc to apply a few rends as Colossus

Revenge is turbo prio

That's why you need bloodsurge

[ionic fern]

Just don't IP.

[wicked pollen]

[ionic fern]

[strong forum]

Yeah and that

I don't IP

As Colossus

[wicked pollen]

ip = healer mechanic

[ionic fern]

Spam revenge and watch DPS go up.

[strong forum]

Leech

Is your best friend

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TkgPcQ3LynvrWwp4?fight=last&type=damage-done

Revenge go brrrrr

[wicked pollen]

not execute build

[strong forum]

I may have trolled that key

But I don't troll that hard

[wicked pollen]

i cant play my execute build anymore

i dont have enough haste

i think i pnly have like 25

[strong forum]

Here's the casts breakdown for lurkers BTW

[wicked pollen]

do you press ip at start of pull and then revenge builds it

[strong forum]

Bro I just press buttons idk

I send IP as my rage bar dictates or depending how stable my HP is at the time

If it's a big pull I have big rage gen so I can IP more

[wicked pollen]

[strong forum]

If it's only a few mobs you can barely IP

You're actually squishier vs 3 mobs than vs 10

[wicked pollen]

we turn into bear

[strong forum]

Pretty normal thing rly

Cuz leech and rage gen goes up with target count

Up to a point to where you can stabilise more through those than you take dmg

It's not about total numbers but about being stable

Parry also gets more traction in bigger pulls

[wicked pollen]

wouldnt the deep wounds heal you talent gain value or the ip talent then

if we cast ip less

[strong forum]

On paper yes

But in practice you Die quicker

[wicked pollen]

[strong forum]

Cuz it means your IP is always gone insta

Whereas BrV when you do 3mil dps

Means you send 300k into IP

Which helps keep up IP alot more

Which in turn means your hp stays high a lot more

Like just sending 1 revenge in aoe after IP

Is immediately 250k IP extra gained

From 1 global

• whatever the passive dots are doing

[wicked pollen]

[strong forum]

Colossus also has that talent that boosts ip by 20%

So by default you have higher likelihood of fewer IP casts being up for longer

Which means more potential BrV value

[violet ginkgo]

but what about for thane? I mean does BrV value good too considering Thane press IP a lot.

[pallid quiver]

That also fuels into why Colo can be notably squishier in higher keys, as well, since it's more likely for an IP to be blown through before you can fluff it a bit with BrV, and you're not gonna re-apply it as much

[strong forum]

Yes valk

BrV is just better

In every scenario

[pallid quiver]

but nome, what about my theoretically scenario where everything is 100% held on to only tank passive self-healing

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107

[pallid quiver]

"theoretically scenario"

i should've been asleep hours ago and this is proof

[strong forum]

Sir it's 9am

[wicked pollen]

its 3 am

[pallid quiver]

9 AM sounds like prime sleep time to me

[wicked pollen]

its time to grief a 10 mists

only pressing revenj

[pallid quiver]

I wouldn't get invited to a +4, let alone a +10

[strong forum]

Mists is like the prime key for colossus

[wicked pollen]

i think most 10s would not ignore my character

638 2890

[strong forum]

Nah they do

[wicked pollen]

they would be a bit dumb to ignore it

[strong forum]

Brown is not good enough colour for keys anymore

[pallid quiver]

i'm rocking a solid 618 and like, 1900 io

I got like 300 points this last week playing with Ghash

[wicked pollen]

ik

😦

[strong forum]

Even tho just 2months ago it was the most sought after

Weird how that works

[pallid quiver]

i did my first echoes key this whole season

[wicked pollen]

nice

did you get funny item

[pallid quiver]

no i got jack shit

[wicked pollen]

nice!

yeah this character is so cursed with haste gear

[strong forum]

Where crit

[wicked pollen]

there is a slight issue

i either have crit or haste

oh wait

i just got +2% from a talent

waoh

[strong forum]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UuZQkK8wiRAThaC_4pfZM0DVZ2hzodRxub9WMkfYJJs/https/i.imgur.com/S6kBwEP.png

Mine is pretty aight

[wicked pollen]

this is the best i can get

[strong forum]

Actually I have slightly more haste now

Cuz crafted cloak

[strong forum]

Ye that ring change is alot better

[violet ginkgo]

nome's crit so high

[wicked pollen]

bro

why am i doing this key

if im notplaying with detials

xd

[violet ginkgo]

you are doing the key because you want to fill your Vault gio

or farm some crest

[bold depot]

Your not looking at it right, he got 3 stacks

That is in fact, not how the fight works

[wicked pollen]

🐉

[untold bane]

The new ring is not added to raidbots?

[ionic fern]

Should be.

[wild chasm]

You get 3 stacks if you took the last stack of previous casts and then the other tank doesn’t taunt between the casts. Skill issue

[bold depot]

brother

[wild chasm]

You only see the stacks 2 and 3 here

No stack 1

[bold depot]

this cant be real

[wild chasm]

Still, it’s a skill issue if the tank can’t taunt. That’s literally all there is to do there as tank, nothing else

[bold depot]

you are not looking at what i am sending you correctly

he gains stack 1 and 2 at the exact same millisecond

[wild chasm]

You just showed a screenshot where Rasha’nan applied stack #2 and stack #3 to a person

[bold depot]

that screenshot is his entire stack gain for the entire fight

he does not take any other tank hits ever

[wild chasm]

Then I guess something got bugged

Because what I’m describing is the only way I ever saw 3 stacks happen

[bold depot]

idk how that wasnt clear from the first image where his bar goes from 0 to 2

comprehension skill issue

[ionic fern]

Use the test version of raidbotd

[untold bane]

I'm having trouble locating test version. Where is it?

[sharp gale]

idk if he refers to expert mode

@ionic fern you talk about expert mode ? because i don't see it too

[strong forum]

The ring is not on the current raidbots cuz it aint on retail yet

There's no point in simming it before it even exists on the servers

[untold bane]

Well how did you figure out then that its barely a dps gain for dps

[sharp gale]

raidbot is just servers, you can run sims privately and add spells, the circlet is 100% in a spell dump or smth on the github

i'm too lazy to learn how to do those type of useless previsions sims

[untold bane]

Then it does not take little to figure out

[sharp gale]

I weight effort/reward, it doesn’t apply to learn advanced test private sims for something you will have anyway on release

You can’t predict tuning too, so don’t plan heavily if you don’t spend huge time on the game

You will have the ring anyway in your bag, if it becomes good, you will equip it that’s it

[strong forum]

One can manually build simc on your own PC and run Sims locally. Raidbots is "just" a pretty website that runs those same sims with an easy user interface

But after recent stealth buffs of the ring, it will be a substantial single target dps gain

Still takes 6 weeks to max out the ring tho

[ionic fern]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/HowToBuild#building-simulationcraft-on-windows

[sharp gale]

Thx I thought it was that expert mode, raidbot has not ptr toggle since a long time i don’t even remember when it was

[deft mortar]

Real ones just do the underlying math

Frfrfr

[strong forum]

[sharp gale]

Yes I just do the math in my head

With the pawn stats coefficients I multiply with raw stats of my gear, I get my best loadout

[half sapphire]

Whirlwind hits for 70k. (I still see lvl 70+ prot wars hitting whirlwind in timewalking)

[strong forum]

based

[jagged pier]

it is 360 degrees after all

[untold bane]

New ring can be simmed on mimiron.raidbots.com

[wicked pollen]

then sim it

[warm plinth]

Running it on your own PC takes a fucking eternity too, so there's that

[cyan bronze]

Get a better pc

[sharp gale]

Or just for someone else to do it

That’s why someone has a orange or blue name

Because they have stronk pc

[sweet summit]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer sound

[cyan bronze]

My ears man

[small steeple]

for m+, at what ilvl/haste level, should i swap from heavy repcrucssions to into the fray?

[sharp gale]

I counter you, I have decibel limiter activated

[sharp gale]

Around 35%

[sweet summit]

21k/35% ish

[small steeple]

Tyty

[strong forum]

for me it took like 1s

xd

[cyan bronze]

That slow

?

Took me around one pictosecond

[oak ivy]

I used to sim locally for wotlk classic but idk how2 for retail

[cyan bronze]

Mine was so fast it told my bis set(and all other sets within moe) for s2

[warm plinth]

Must have come a ways then because I remember the biggest reason for raidbots was that it was faster for a lot of people than running it on their own pc.

[cyan bronze]

Nom could also have a good pc

[warm plinth]

I have a good pc. I'm talking about back when simming first became a thing

It took a very long time to run

[cyan bronze]

I mean I just doubt this isn’t still the case a majority of the time

[warm plinth]

Oh I see

Could be. I haven't run a sim on my pc in years

[untold bane]

i will

[pallid quiver]

It really is notable that a lot of people playing WoW don't actually have strong PCs; they might grab like a powerful graphics card because of the hype around those, but there's people running CPUs that are old as fuck

[dense cradle]

I mean most games ask for strong gpus

[pallid quiver]

a strong gpu alone does not make a thing work

There's a non-zero amount of people I've helped who've been bottlenecked by CPUs

[dense cradle]

Yeah definitely

[violet ginkgo]

Ah speaking of this I need education. So uh let's say it's bottleneck 20%, so my GPU is just working at 80% capacity?

will that 80% capacity impact a lot?

[tawdry dirge]

hello how good or bad is the ring from next ptach for us?

did hear rumors its not a biggi dps gain

not like DF version

[untold bane]

Best way to check is compare benchmarks of different cpus with same gpu. results will depend on workload too

[urban portal]

depends on what kind of GPU is it

80% of a RTX 4080 is still plenty enough to run most games

[violet ginkgo]

I wanted to buy this or 4060 for MH wilds.

[urban portal]

idk if i would go 4060

at least 4070

or an AMD equivalent

but wilds is gonna be a GPU bound game

your CPU wont be the bottleneck

[sharp gale]

I Will keep my 2040 rtx for Mh wilds

[cyan bronze]

df version wasnt a big dps gain

til

they hard buffed it

cus it was dogshit

same thing will prob happen 👍

[violet ginkgo]

I see is that so, thx Hekili

waiting next year so hopefully the price reduce a bit with 50 series coming up

[sharp gale]

WoW is a game for poor countries (like LoL), so it need to run on potatos

[violet ginkgo]

what is your main weapon happy?

[sharp gale]

IRL?

[violet ginkgo]

in monster hunter XD

[sharp gale]

The shield and sword that morphs into a chainsaw axe

[violet ginkgo]

CB nice

[sharp gale]

And second is the gun

The heavy one

[violet ginkgo]

🔨 for me

[pallid quiver]

I haven't been fond of bowguns since the modern changes

[sharp gale]

It was my first weap in freedom united

[pallid quiver]

I was pretty fond of them being clunky pieces of shite

MHFU was where I started, too

[sharp gale]

I play the gun only online tho

In world

Tried rajang enough to give up solo bowgun

[pallid quiver]

I pretty much only play MH solo\

[sharp gale]

Late game when you grind I like online

Or big chill in the open world map with randoms

[cyan bronze]

what is your main in league tho

[sharp gale]

Gnar

[cyan bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-huzz-bleach-rukia-huzz-black-heart-gif-2824359586106542899

i just know you get bitches out the wazoo

[sharp gale]

But I didn’t play in ages to LoL

[cyan bronze]

poppy

[sharp gale]

Lollypoppy old skin enjoyer here

[cyan bronze]

get out

🚪

[cyan bronze]

🚪

[plush tendon]

Poppy is a awesome champ

[chilly brook]

Gross

As a top laner I don't like you anymore

[sharp gale]

You have range top trauma

[chilly brook]

I do

[sharp gale]

It is not vayne or Viktor

(Yes last time I played it was viktor top patch)

[chilly brook]

I'm a Susan enjoyer

[sharp gale]

Who tf is susan

[tardy abyss]

nasus backwards

[chilly brook]

Read it backwards

[sweet summit]

the circle of life and death continues 👴

[chilly brook]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-nasus-bysanek-lol-league-of-legends-gif-11399205024908901612

[sharp gale]

I was nasus player way back when champs were really simple

But he never got updated and I felt it is outdated

[chilly brook]

Idk he feels fine rn

[violet ginkgo]

nasus is fun though stacking Q but the game moving toward more objective that you need to fight instead of just stacking Q in lane.

[chilly brook]

Plenty of time between objs to stack 🙂

[sharp gale]

Any champs with a knockback in enemy team

[obsidian girder]

Leona / Lux / Morgana , support FML

[chilly brook]

I've been playing a lot of Kayn top tho

super fun

[obsidian girder]

Who is kayn, stopped in 2013 😂

[sharp gale]

Well, he has more advanced abilities than any pre 2013 champs combined

[chilly brook]

https://tenor.com/view/kayn-gif-4963999081104704486

This is Kayn

tldr

you fight

[sharp gale]

Basically it’s sasuke and you choose a form through the game

[chilly brook]

and then get to morph into either an assassin or bruiser

[sharp gale]

But top you don’t choose ?

[chilly brook]

oh I choose

[sharp gale]

Or you actively chase/gank midlane to morphs

[chilly brook]

depends on their comp

[sharp gale]

Because I remember you are really weak before you morph and you want to do it asap

[chilly brook]

somewhat

you're pretty stronk pre level 4

[sweet summit]

you can just perma proxy on kayn

and not interact

[chilly brook]

^also that

[sweet summit]

(very cool strat)

[chilly brook]

basically play lane up until level 4 and then you can go proxy once it's not free farm for form

[sharp gale]

Why when you say proxy I have every crackhead on singed i encountered in mind

[chilly brook]

because everyone is traumatized by a singed that their team decides they need to chase

[frosty holly]

Anybody know a fix for ? It's from https://wago.io/gDJ5XzNk1

[brittle owl]

hello is this the LoL discord

@sweet summit @chilly brook @sharp gale are you LoL tc's? i need help with my brainrot

[frosty holly]

Or should i just not use the WA. I tried changing the log event thing with what's said on github. But either i fucked it up ( probably ) or other log event is not working

[round wolf]

I would delete and readd it

[sweet summit]

no, i'm really really bad fortunately

[chilly brook]

no I'm bronze

[brittle owl]

apologies sir we only deal with closeted furry's and conspicuous loli porn

[chilly brook]

you don't want my help

[frosty holly]

Things have changed ;_;

[brittle owl]

you can thank arcane s2 for that!

[brittle owl]

hello bronze

[brittle owl]

hello really really bad fortunately

[chilly brook]

Arcane S2 was good until it was bad

Act 3 booty cheeks

[brittle owl]

✂️

[sweet summit]

hi dad

[brittle owl]

🧔‍♂️

[half sapphire]

For me that was ep3, and then 5 made is so much worse

[cyan bronze]

Ok

Are we not gonna discuss

5 minutes of sesbian lex in episode 8

[waxen frigate]

Not enough

[cyan bronze]

Kinda pissed off we didn’t see more of smeech

Smeech could of made a sick debut in the sesbian lex scene.

[chilly brook]

That was the best part of the show wdym?

Vi is hot

[cyan bronze]

Vi?

[chilly brook]

Yes Vi

[cyan bronze]

Vi?

Not the better half

[chilly brook]

https://tenor.com/view/vi-arcane-season-2-pit-fighter-vi-arcane-emo-vi-arcane-vi-arcane-back-tattoo-muscles-gif-15242116797678849172

bro wdym she could wreck my life

[cyan bronze]

Bro

Cait could do that systematically through oppression

[wicked pollen]

cait > vi

also we were cut so much more

[cyan bronze]

We could have had a full sesbian lex episode

[mortal pecan]

Any reason most prot wars seem to be dwarf? Stone form and aesthetics?

[strong forum]

I've yet to watch the first season

[cyan bronze]

I think arcane s2 was rly good

[strong forum]

Stoneform for most
Aesthetics for me

[cyan bronze]

10% dr is a ok racial, self dispel is good

[sharp gale]

I played since season 2 or 3 im gold dude

[cyan bronze]

I’m a tc’er if tc means

Being carried

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-shock-gif-6475834490877121384

[mortal pecan]

10% dr?

[strong forum]

I've only played league until season 3 but the 1 week I played ranked I hit platinum

When you activate stoneform, you get 10% physical DR for 8sec

[sharp gale]

But I feel like it’s like saying you got CE in vanilla

[strong forum]

Exactly

[cyan bronze]

Do u know what stone form do

[mortal pecan]

Remove bleeds is all I knew

[cyan bronze]

All dispels

[mortal pecan]

So earthen is shittier dwarf

[cyan bronze]

And 10% pdr

[sharp gale]

The black dwarf does the dispel part too, no one play black dwarf

[mortal pecan]

So orc is elite genetics. Like Ronnie Coleman

[cyan bronze]

Yes

[mortal pecan]

Light weight baby

[cyan bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/light-weight-gif-21674454

[mortal pecan]

Easy

[cyan bronze]

RAHHH

EASY

A cultured individual

[mortal pecan]

Everyone wanna be big but nobody wanna lift some heavy ass weight

[cyan bronze]

Yeah that’s cap I love lifting big rocks

[mortal pecan]

Ain't nuttin but a peanut

[mortal pecan]

They should have a Ronnie orc warrior trainer in game

[unborn island]

How do you guys pull the double pack at the start of COT? Do you just grab the casters then add the big guys, or do you go round, get the big guy and charge back to the casters?

I can't find a way that I like.

[mortal pecan]

I also feel awkward with this pull

Ideally you have DPS kick casters so you can pull into the big dude. But that never happens

[unborn island]

Just seems that if I go get the big guy he always uses the frontal back over the casters, which doesn't usually end too well

[strong forum]

Don't pull the 2 in the front

You can walk around that pack on teh side

[unborn island]

I do the 4 pack and the big guy

[strong forum]

Then you pull the big guy into the 4 pack

Yeah

[unborn island]

I don't do the 2 immediately in front

[strong forum]

Yeah so, should be fine no?

You pull big guy first

And then yadayeet into the 4pack

[unborn island]

So run all the way around then bring him back in- I just tried that and it seems to make him just reliable use the frontal onto the 4 pack?

[wicked pollen]

i think the route in high keys always skips 2 in the front

[unborn island]

Will a pug be prepared for that? Last time they just died

[mortal pecan]

We are skipping those

[unborn island]

Yeah I don't think I ever hit those, I was meaning the 4 pack, it's 2 casters, not 4, my b

[wicked pollen]

what if you just pull 4 cc hc throw pull big and aoe

[obsidian girder]

Had played unholy DK at beginning of expansion, quested basically everything. Switched to protection warrior 2 weeks ago, should I play the whole campaign again to prepare the 11.0.7 island ? Or is this not mandatory

[unborn island]

Yeah, that's what I usually wind up doing, it just feels...awkward, you know

[waxen frigate]

Should be no need

[obsidian girder]

Awesome

[half sapphire]

Charge, disrupting shout, pull 2nd pack

[mortal pecan]

What are you dropping for disrupting shout?

[half sapphire]

Bloodsurge

As long as ur not a colossus boy most of that extra rage not needed

[sharp gale]

when you want to merge 2 packs, 1 with casters, 1 without, the caster pack is you end point, not the pack without them

also with casters that instant start cast you can charge kick

[sweet egret]

I just charge the 4 pack and ravager the big guy

it doesn't have to reach all the way to him, just reaching his small bug pets is enough

and that also is enough for aggro not to drop to healer while they rp walk over

[tiny plank]

Evening yall....just could use any advise...i have 620 meh meh gear and experience in every dungeon as furry....but i want to try and take on my shield again....but rly not sure how to...i feel squishy and i know i am not....any tips would be apreciated

[sweet egret]

equip shield, use shield block

👍

[tiny plank]

it can't be just that hahaha ....i mean besides that my survival is all healer dependent?

[sweet egret]

no, you have buttons

if you need a guide you can go to wowhead.com

[tiny plank]

allready on that just wanted a second opinion...will go with guide for now...

[sweet egret]

second opinion on what, you didn't ask anything

I can go to wowhead and copy paste the guide but why would I

[pallid quiver]

If you feel squishy, you're:

• Letting SB drop
• Overspending on IP so your rage economy dies
• Just not pressing buttons
• Not using def CDs where needed

Or getting hit in the back

or letting casts get off

or a lot of things

[tiny plank]

ok so...i run a +7 CoT....first pull with the 2 packs at the begining went in used shiled block and shield wall along with my ofensives....tried to keep shield block up as much as possible and used ignore pain as a filler when rage was around 90...and yet i was at 20% health no matter what i did....my question is is it normal???

[pallid quiver]

Without any logs, we can't tell you anything

absolutely not

you're higher ilvl than my prot war and sounds like you're getting slapped by not interrupting casts

since the largest majority of damage from the very first groups in CoT come from casts

[sweet egret]

no, it is not normal

[tiny plank]

ok tyvm 🙂

[sweet egret]

it's a long time since I was at that ilvl but I don't remember ever being threatened in a 7

the big guy does a ground frontal which hurts if you stand in it

and quite the heavy aoe dot on everyone

I don't think the casts should worry you too much off the top of my head

but turning your back to some of the mobs or failing to keep shield block up would quickly do a lot of damage

(shield block only works from the front)

[sweet summit]

the casters in the first pack cast at random targets so shouldn't be too hard on tank no?

only thing i can think of is the venom strikes or whatever + swarm maybe which you just have to rotate cds or bring poison dispell or dwarf and so on and so forth

[pallid quiver]

Very first casts should all target tank since no one else is a valid target

hence why i'm inclined to think that casts just

literally entirely being ignored

[half sapphire]

Honestly go learn in some tier 8 delves first, with all the web bolts and spell casts in there, it’s all the teaching tools you’ll need for M+. Once you can easily survive with dps brann, you’re ready.

[sweet summit]

ah i see
the way I understood it was they were dropping to 20% often, not just at the start.
could we get some clarification @tiny plank?

[tiny plank]

it was a few seconds after the pull i got slapped dropped to 20% and then it felt impossible to get back up no matter what i did....frontal was succesfully avoided that's certain

[mighty valley]

yeah i think you're just eating multiple web bolts and struggling to get out of the hole - prot warrior is more of a mitigation tank

spell reflect / spell block / interrupt all help with that initial part of the pull

but like luerce said, a log will help us see if you've got all the basics right

[jagged gust]

Yeah not too much point guessing

[cerulean vine]

Does Champion's Spear do more than Thunderous Roar or am I missing something?

[jagged pier]

not missing anything

[pallid quiver]

Does more damage unless you hate crit

because then you're just not gonna crit for the crit dam bonus

[jagged pier]

also generates rage

[cerulean vine]

I figured so, I saw some Colossus builds taking it so I was a bit confused as to why.

[pallid quiver]

That being said

It's more damage for Thane, only

[jagged pier]

because colossus get bleed damage

[pallid quiver]

Colossus does more damage with Roar because of bleed synergy

[cerulean vine]

Ahh okay that makes sense now.

Thank you!

[floral ibex]

Has anyone ever noticed that our spell reflect is eaten up by evokers bombardment?

[cyan bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/brie-larson-yeah-gif-27606512

[quiet monolith]

Gotta love how charge puts you behind the target most of the time

Where you can't block

[mighty valley]

i get some scary charges sometimes but i wouldn't say "most of the time" - what's your latency like?

[smoky anvil]

It’s just backshots with the homies man

[pastel dew]

The ring just got giga buffed.

[jagged pier]

Yes it did

[pastel dew]

Starts off at 639 and caps at 658

[jagged pier]

Almost like they ignored all the feedback of ptr and just giga buffed it otherwise no one would do the new content

[pastel dew]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[jagged pier]

I think thats buff 4 or 5 now in like the last 2 weeks

[cyan bronze]

mastery stackers rejoice

[vestal moat]

anyone know if we have to grind the ring on every toon every week

or is it somehow warbound band or something

[bleak delta]

onto queen lads

[sharp gale]

GG

[trail forge]

Nice!

[bleak delta]

Sorry about the shit quality pic I got it off my stream ahaha forgot to take a screenshot after the kill was too excited to be done with that fight 😂

[pallid quiver]

smh tanks so bad our dps got nerfed

[half sapphire]

on the one bright side, we can now spell reflect every shadowclaw

also lava fist is so sad, we can't actually spell reflect the dmg portion, we only negate it

[mortal pecan]

fuck CoT