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#protection
cyan bronze
dawn rose
Hmm, is there a haste % you can reach to always have shield block up? If running Into The Fray
pallid quiver
Hmm, is there a haste % you can reach to always have shield block up? If running...
To have it up 100% of the time at all times, it's like 35-40% or something
To have it up effectively 100% (blocking everything you can block), it depends per damage profile, but usually around 30% or so.
This is before any buffs or anything, by the way
dawn rose
To have it up 100% of the time at all times, it's like 35-40% or something
To h...
Weird, wonder what I'm doing wrong. No idea what changed. Feel like I used to have it up all the time, but today it falls off
i have 35% haste unbuffed
pallid quiver
The other major source of SB comes from Shield Charge, which you need to use on CD, if you're rocking ITF
dawn rose
Yeah, I use that for to start the pull
If mobs are almost dead, i don't use it again, but i use it on CD
tulip remnant
When Prot Pali isnt 20% better then every other tank. Prot Pali mains are rioting in the streets
sharp gale
When Prot Pali isnt 20% better then every other tank. Prot Pali mains are riotin...
I Hope they riot, it means it is unplayable/shit, like brewmaster, one day my friend will be rewarded to be otp on something that needs to be broken
chilly brook
I Hope they riot, it means it is unplayable/shit, like brewmaster, one day my fr...
Brew is hardly unplayable or shit
sharp gale
Brew is hardly unplayable or shit
You know what I mean, high keys 15s+ you still have the usual brew issue, stagger not tuned to be hit by 10 targets that hard (tuned toward raid) and you need a healer who just accepts it
chilly brook
It will always be that way unless they do what they did with Aug and make a passive to buff stagger or something else in 5 man content
Which when i think about it sounds like a pretty decent idea tbh
sharp gale
100% specific group content aura shit is the solution, because it can just become broken so quick in raid
chilly brook
Maybe the actual move would be 5 man content buff to celestial fortune
sharp gale
My friend is coping Blizz knows it’s the solution and is cooking, I find it funny, 3 expansions he is waiting his turn
chilly brook
I mean rn brew is like in the potentially best spot it’s been in m+ since s2?3? of BFA
sharp gale
Maybe the actual move would be 5 man content buff to celestial fortune
Celestial fortune is the crit (duplicate heals) if I remember ?
chilly brook
Celestial fortune is the crit (duplicate heals) if I remember ?
Yea
Realistically you could probably do a little bit of both
sharp gale
I mean rn brew is like in the potentially best spot it’s been in m+ since s2?3? ...
All tanks are really in good shape tbh (maybe I’m wrong), just group content tuning on some and they are all good
Good shape comparing past seasons ofc
For brew I think they can just give a flat dodge % in group content (im always trying to find the laziest thing yes)
dense cradle
sharp gale
Did he just get one tapped by a single melee swing
chilly brook
Yeah lol
Sense posted this earlier and mentioned it was his friend rerolling to paladin
unkempt hazel
tbf doesnt seem like he had conc or sotr up and it may have been a hit from the back
jagged pier
Ppl noticing they can get banned for be toxic in m+ now
They flipping
Got told insane tanking yesterday when it was a run of all time
Buddeh its okay to say im bad i getting
twin hill
Love wholesome groups
best feel, so comfy 
fresh pilot
@jagged pier thanks for the advice yesterday on remembering enchants whens imming, really helped me out alot, did not consider that or embelishments at all.
jagged pier
Np
fallen turtle
guys are having full crit build is bad ? should i take care of my versa stat too for high keys ?
tardy abyss
guys are having full crit build is bad ? should i take care of my versa stat too...
Doesn't matter
jaunty wyvern
For tanking what's the step up from 11s to 12s ?
With like 627 ilvl and relatively speaking 100% uptime of SB and IP and decent rotation of other defensives.
tardy abyss
For tanking what's the step up from 11s to 12s ?
With like 627 ilvl and relativ...
You won't feel that much of a difference
jaunty wyvern
You won't feel that much of a difference
Guessing just harder to get into a pug
tardy abyss
Until you got some 12s done yeah
jagged pier
U wont feel any difference except their own presseved difference they difference u feel is the extra 20% damage and hp from the affix stats wont change that
Youll always feel the jump
But having more vers will do next to nothing except maybe a placebo effect and if thats works for yah that works for yah 
jaunty wyvern
But having more vers will do next to nothing except maybe a placebo effect and i...
Lol, fair aha
jaunty wyvern
Until you got some 12s done yeah
Gotta finish timing 11s first aha
tardy abyss
The difficulty jump from every key level past 12 feels harsher than from 11 to 12 imo
jaunty wyvern
The difficulty jump from every key level past 12 feels harsher than from 11 to 1...
Good to know, thank you
jaunty wyvern
I've found tanking 11s is much easier then healing them on a hpriest.
tardy abyss
Hpriest sucks
jaunty wyvern
Yeah rerolled tank once I got 2700, didn't wanna disc heal aha
jaunty wyvern
Yeah really enjoying tanking. Think it suits my play style a bit more than healing
ocean finch
Would you guys say prot warr is in a good state to push high keys? (Ofcourse none of the tank specs are close to prot pala in dmg, so timing within time will be harder with other tanks cause you lose flat dmg), but the survivability for Prot warr, its above average or hows it looking?
jagged pier
Prot warrior is the same as any tabk in termw of defensive capabilities the same
As all 5 other tanks
Like any tank is the same as all other tank
Tuning very good defensive wise
ocean finch
Okey, thats good to hear, thought Brew and DH for example had hard time surviving higher keys compare other tanks
pallid quiver
Brew takes the most damage that they can't handle on their own last I checked, but in exchange, they don't really get spiked like some other tanks, just due to how stagger works
don't hold me to that, though, and they 100% can still survive fine
DH I am a dum dum about and don't know squat
warm trench
Hi! Should I take these instead of the tier shoulders? I already have myth Stitchflesh and crafted ring, but I'm having a hard time deciding if I should take the socket or these instead
violet ginkgo
Brew takes the most damage that they can't handle on their own last I checked, b...
I thought prot war also not get spiked?
violet ginkgo
Hi! Should I take these instead of the tier shoulders? I already have myth Stitc...
Socket maybe. But try sim the ring first.
pallid quiver
I thought prot war also not get spiked?
Correct, but there's also less self-healing on average than Brew in terms of actual healing. It's kind of funky.
I was more referring to the like VDH/BDK group, who are a little spikier, but in exchange can just heal up
BDK being a much more obvious example
solar spear
Hi! Should I take these instead of the tier shoulders? I already have myth Stitc...
It's all pretty close, I'd be tempted by the socket, or the 3ilvls on ring
chilly brook
Brew takes the most damage that they can't handle on their own last I checked, b...
They’re also just easier to heal because of celestial fortune duplicating heals
warm trench
Socket maybe. But try sim the ring first.
Tried simming it and it seems that both rings sim lower than the crafted one and on top of that I would loose either alot of haste or 3% parry so socket it is I guess
blazing zinc
Hello, I have hero shoulders + cloak and wondering if I should craft 636 shoulders or cloak next... any recommendation for this please? Thank you very much! 🙏
hardy snow
Hello, I have hero shoulders + cloak and wondering if I should craft 636 shoulde...
shoulders will give you more stats
sweet summit
if everything is upgraded you can craft cloak
i don't like crafting tier slots/high budget armor
tardy abyss
But whats the point of that if he has nothing to upgrade anyway
Shoulders are objectively better
tardy abyss
Its terrible
violet ginkgo
any1 know if this is good?
The worst of course, that mace one hand myth seems more intersting.
royal copper
The worst of course, that mace one hand myth seems more intersting.
nah already made a 636 one
this one is good though no?
tardy abyss
Its alright
royal copper
Sure but I can't really say I'm motivated enough this expansion to chase 3 ilevel. not a fan
sweet summit
But whats the point of that if he has nothing to upgrade anyway
yeah fair point actually
violet ginkgo
Sure but I can't really say I'm motivated enough this expansion to chase 3 ileve...
Well true... can't disagree with that.. this season is quite a mess for upgrades.
royal copper
Well true... can't disagree with that.. this season is quite a mess for upgrades...
any1 wanting to play multiply specs are fucked by the gilded crafting system for min maxing. not as bad as in shadowlands but still meh
not to mention getting the rare neck/cloak allows you bypass the gilded crest system. needing on mythic pieces with shit stats is also the way to skip the 619 to 623 cost
i wouldn't care if the game didn't cap the weekly cap and respected my time
made a second warr to recover from wasted gilded and it's so much higher itemlevel than my regular main already
tardy abyss
Would also be great if the achievement threshhold for the crest discount would be 636 instead of 639
¯_(ツ)_/¯
royal copper
Would also be great if the achievement threshhold for the crest discount would b...
not sure what you mean by that?
too many systems 'you gotta know' or fall behind by
tardy abyss
Theres an av that gives your alts discounts
royal copper
isn't that only for valorstones?
tardy abyss
That makes your upgrade cost 10 instead of 15 crests
Uhh, I think the gilded one reduces crests? Not sure
Point is, for some reason all of them take crafted items into account except the gilded one
royal copper
i have no fucking clue. but if that's true the gilded gets reduced on alts, then your alts can get even higher ilevel than mains due to gilded cap
lmao
tardy abyss
Cap isnt an issue for lots of people at this point
I havent farmed any crests this week but if I did I would be sitting on 105 crests
quiet monolith
I find valorstone's to be the bigger annoyance right now
fresh pilot
same here, got no use of gilded this week. used 15 to upgrade weapon from 623 > 639. thats it.
quiet monolith
First big pull of mists I'm getting kinda clapped on a 12. Any tips ? Is it the pugs not stacking ? I am avoiding ground circles best I can
wicked pollen
are you getting dispelled
solar spear
Need to get dispelled, but you can reflect a lot of the soul splits. Get the spell cds on nameplates WA, watch the soul split tracker, and if it comes off cd before spell reflect is off cd, move out of range slightly for a little bit, pop spell reflect when up, and move back in. Should reflect back onto both.
Often the timer is about 2s longer than spell reflect CD
lofty warren
quiet monolith
Need to get dispelled, but you can reflect a lot of the soul splits. Get the spe...
Thanks ! I assume spell block would also do a lot of work ?
tardy abyss
Thanks ! I assume spell block would also do a lot of work ?
yes
You can pop spell block fairly early since it has a 30 seconds duration and that pull doesnt last long
shadow basalt
What counts as a spell for Spell Block? For instance does Dorlitas Igneous Hammer count as a spell?
tropic tangle
What counts as a spell for Spell Block? For instance does Dorlitas Igneous Hamme...
also pinned in case you lose it
tardy lily
how bad is it to play Roar nstead of spear for prot in keys and/or raid? 🤔
violet ginkgo
I mean if you are colossus you play roar, I assume this is for thane question?
cyan bronze
I saw a few % loss
1-2
The big thing is
-10% stam at most
As you cannot really afford stam points with roar
I really don’t think roar is enough snapthreat util to justify it anywhere outside of maybe ara kara
But I’m sus on that
blazing zinc
Hello, would you use CHAMPION Swarmlord's Authority as 2nd trinket (with Ara) over any other trinkets of HERO or MYTH quality or is there something worth using over this? Thank you very much!
cyan bronze
What other trinkets
violet ginkgo
why would you want to use champion swarmlord? at least do heroic.
And try some Heroic Transmitter it's good
strong forum
Swamplords ain't worth to use over other trinkets
shadow basalt
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/1037744005913...
Thanks! Thought the sheet only included Spell Reflect so did not take a look before 😄
blazing zinc
What other trinkets
basically any m+ trinkets (so hero or myth if I get them in vault), I only play m+, I don't raid
violet ginkgo
basically any m+ trinkets (so hero or myth if I get them in vault), I only play ...
Then seek mark of khadros or skar’s shard pair it with sacbrood
blazing zinc
Then seek mark of khadros or skar’s shard pair it with sacbrood
I have hero Skarmorak Shard
thank you 😃
cyan bronze
Run that
violet ginkgo
Then seek hero/myth sacbrood
violet dome
Did the Colossus changes make it better than Thane for Prot?
blazing zinc
Then seek hero/myth sacbrood
I have Myth Sacbrood so it's all about the 2nd trinket 😃
strong blaze
Whats more up to date? the wowhead mountain thane m+ build or the one on in the discord info?
theyre different
violet ginkgo
obsidian girder
Hey guys, I am new to the prot party. Checked some guides and got a bit confused. For m+ I wanna play mountain thane, that pretty much clear.
Do I skill dragon roar side or spear? Found information in both directions. Same goes for battle scared veteran vs ravager.
Anyone can help me on this
jagged pier
roar vs spear is a crit question
sweet summit
spear with higher crit and roar otherwise
bsv can work fine as a safety net but know you're losing a lot of rage and damage from dropping ravager
obsidian girder
Okay so go ravager until I start pushing anything high, as a rule of thumb
worldly rain
spear because its less buttons to push :-)
jagged pier
its the same amount of buttons
obsidian girder
Okay good. Can you explain the crit thing
jagged pier
if u have 25% ish crit or more
worldly rain
nah, shorter cd, more buttons
jagged pier
u run spear
wicked pollen
prob just a % crit
violet ginkgo
Crit thing? simple spear boost your crit damage so if you got more crit chance means more damage.
violet ginkgo
if u have 25% ish crit or more
this is base or include +3% from the battlestance?
jagged pier
18k-20k if your new
vital pollen
Is it correct that we use deadly emerald in all sockets with culminating blasphemite? Just seems like an anti-pattern.
jagged pier
20k
jagged pier
Is it correct that we use deadly emerald in all sockets with culminating blasphe...
for the extra .1% damage yes, but in reality u take the speed gem and stack different gems for the SPEEED
violet ginkgo
Is it correct that we use deadly emerald in all sockets with culminating blasphe...
I use 4 different gem with elusive, then rest filled with deadly
obsidian girder
Last question for now, haste/crit is fine overall ? Or any point where I really want versa ?
vital pollen
I use 4 different gem with elusive, then rest filled with deadly
Ah I see this must be a raid tank thing I"m looking at
jagged pier
crit vs vers is comfort feel nither does anything big for u
u wont feel the levels of vers u can get
obsidian girder
Okay so both is fine basically
wicked pollen
vers reduces all damage but you could get owned by unblockable hits
jagged pier
after strength and haste stats do very little sruvivability
wicked pollen
which parry is good
obsidian girder
Okay got that
wicked pollen
jakey did i speak misinformation
jagged pier
if u like vers and having more vers makes u feel safer and u play better because of it then its fine
but having 15% ver wont do anything for u really at all
jagged pier
if u like vers and having more vers makes u feel safer and u play better because...
this also goes for things like bsv and swarmlords trinket etc
but in reality u should understand what each thing actually does and doesnt do for u
obsidian girder
Thanks for your kind help here.
jagged pier
jakey did i speak misinformation
u didnt speak misinformation but its not the whole truth or completely correct
yes vers is all damage it reduces everything equally, magic, phyiscal etc etc sounds really good and is really good. But its the highest rating so u need the most amount of stat to get 1% of vers compared to other stats and we do mitigate stuff through other stats.
The reason why crit is rating so highly is because regardless of unblocked or blocked it just stops the damage pre mit so u take no damage form like a melee (yes its rng) but thanks to statics when u are getting hit by mutliple melees at a time like 99% of the time in m+ u will parry and as u stop an entire damage event over the course of a dungeon it probably adds up to more damage reduction than like 15% vers will give. sure its only on physical damage we are strong against already, but it does mean your IP will get eatn less quickly and actually effect the magic and dot damage which we are good against more as the physical hits u are parrying just dont eat at the IP shield at all.
wicked pollen
ty pookie
vagrant echo
So what haste do you take into the fray and why? I’ve heard several different #’s
I’m at 15k unbuffed because I can’t seem to get a haste neck
tardy abyss
35%-ish unbuffed
mighty valley
there all always gonna be gaps in sb uptime with itf, bigger the lower your haste is
if you’re v mindful of it, you can get away with using itf at slightly lower haste, just making sure the sb gaps aren’t happening when you’re in any danger
but also itf is stronger at higher haste, just how flat haste works on top of rating
jagged pier
18k-20k rating
mighty valley
i still think so many players would be better served by running hr just to have one less thing to think about lol
jagged pier
if u are new to the spec i highly recommend waiting till your closer to 20k
jagged pier
i still think so many players would be better served by running hr just to have ...
they would
but the top players dont run HR so it must be bad right
wicked pollen
whenever i play hr
i get to blast damage
without worrying about block
its so nice
itf im worrying if i drop i explode
i also dont haev enough haste
vagrant echo
20k haste is like max haste items in every slot other then tier
vagrant echo
I’m 630 and I’m missing shoulders and neck for haste and I’ve got 14.5k
mighty valley
neck is huge
wicked pollen
i play siege db and its not enough
sharp gale
NW ring and the haste mastery ring (which dungeon?) are really nice
wicked pollen
NW ring and the haste mastery ring (which dungeon?) are really nice
gb
sharp gale
gb
Thx, it gives lot of haste, I was stuck with it for fury spec until this week vault
But farm an item in gb
wicked pollen
not by choice ofc
sharp gale
not by choice ofc
What’s up on the raid for you ?
wicked pollen
5/8
no raid other than reclear
thanksgiving
i showed up to raid on laptop basic wa
4/8 log off 
sharp gale
Oh ok lol, 0 pulls kyvesa ?
sharp gale
i showed up to raid on laptop basic wa
I’ve raided once in a McDonalds on my laptop
wicked pollen
30-59
wicked pollen
I’ve raided once in a McDonalds on my laptop
they didnt say anything about you staying there for 3 hours
sharp gale
they didnt say anything about you staying there for 3 hours
No because I was ordering shit
sharp gale
I felt like cartman when I raised my hand he came up to me
To take my order
Yes there is not a lot of people in my town who goes to McDo the evening middle of the week
weak cedar
this might be a really hard question, but would anyone be able to estimate the % of more damage taken when playing colossus vs thane?
ionic fern
this might be a really hard question, but would anyone be able to estimate the %...
Mainly dependant on how much you spend on Revenge .
cyan bronze
@ionic fern do you actually prio tc over revenge for colossus
tc feels like it does 0 dmg but idk
cyan bronze
is tc more likely to reset ss than revenge?
jagged pier
No but your not going ti have any rage to spend on revenge well less rage anyways
wicked pollen
doesnt cost rage to do so
weak cedar
you take more damage as colo
this was implied in the question yes
weak cedar
Mainly dependant on how much you spend on Revenge .
aight
cyan bronze
No but your not going ti have any rage to spend on revenge well less rage anyway...
kk
strong forum
Can't really estimate how much squishier X is
cyan bronze
Can't really estimate how much squishier X is
Bout some
Can’t really put a value on how fun hitting demolish is tho
strong forum
You can only bring in the facts that thane:
- generates 40-60% more rage
- Demo shout up a lot more frequently
- Demo shout 5% stronger
- 8% dmg reduction with ~80% uptime from using TB
cyan bronze
No stam point
strong forum
Colossus only has the 5% baseline dmg reduction, 20% stronger IP and the 10% DR from demolish every now and again
cyan bronze
That you can take possibly
pallid quiver
The rage also fuels lower CDR on shield wall, as well, so if def CD rotation is strict, you might feel it there
strong forum
Yeah colossus also can't pick 1/2 endurance training
cyan bronze
Yeah and I’m also not taking spell block or indomitable if I’m playing colossus 
cyan bronze
Yeah my healer can cope I’m parsing
jagged gust
thats the spirit
strong forum
Can't stress enough how bad thane feels in keys
mighty valley
dropping findomitable is insane
jagged gust
remember when we didnt take ea?
cyan bronze
dropping findomitable is insane
You would think differently if you saw the damage
Bloodsurge instead of sw talent might be a damage loss. Not sure
Didn’t sim it
cyan bronze
Wasn’t sure what would net more rage tbh
strong forum
So you can revenge spam infinitely
mighty valley
is bloodborne actually meaningful for colossus
strong forum
Ye
pallid quiver
Can't stress enough how bad thane feels in keys
Nome gatekeeps those on Wowhead from tasting the nectar he desires, that of Colossus gameplay, by making them scavenger hunt for their builds
naive plaza
wait people actually play colossus?
strong forum
Diva the record to beat is 1.61mil without Aug
cyan bronze
In what key
strong forum
Any
cyan bronze
I did a lot of dmg in some of my keys yday..
None logged and idk what my overall was
strong forum
I did 1.4mil in GB, 1.5/1.6mil in ara, 1.6mil in mists
naive plaza
ilvl?
strong forum
635
cyan bronze
I was parsing with this build yday in heroic tho
cyan bronze
Could finally play a bit of hc as prot
I got 99 at 629
strong forum
Ye if dmg is your goal thane is just whack
strong forum
Ofc
cyan bronze
Am not finery maxing
strong forum
Trolling or
cyan bronze
I’m at like 2 or 3% dmg buff idk
strong forum
I have enough finery for the next 3 buffs already in bags
cyan bronze
Think I have like 40 in bag LOL
pallid quiver
I haven't entered raid enough to get fineries
strong forum
It's at like 10% now
cyan bronze
I was
not in bstance
no finery
629
no combat pot
strong forum
Bruh
wicked pollen
nome what page were you playing for the colo m+blast •
cyan bronze
Are you playing execute build
wicked pollen
was it just not both sc talents
cyan bronze
Nom
strong forum
Full execute on every boss ye
cyan bronze
Colossus execute lowkey doesn’t feel that great to me?
strong forum
Numbers be numbering
cyan bronze
I tried that double ravager cook
strong forum
All builds should use seismic regardless
cyan bronze
I realized that
strong forum
"cook"
strong forum
You mean dogshit
strong forum
Ohno
cyan bronze
It felt cool as fuck for the first 3 demolish casts
strong forum
He's a bonghead
pallid quiver
All builds should use seismic regardless
they should
but you see some crackhead kinda builds out in the wild
cyan bronze
And then I actually wanted to kms for the 2 after
wicked pollen
nome do you have a log of your colo blasta key
strong forum
90% of my m+ logs are colossus
Cuz I just don't play thane anymore
Shit does no damage
wicked pollen
are you a mists only enjoyer
pallid quiver
Nome doesn't push because CBA
strong forum
Almost ye
wicked pollen
bc i might have just clicked wrong uneon
pallid quiver
so he's solidly in Colo Prio town of weekly keys
cyan bronze
I play thane when I like lightning
cyan bronze
Idk just give demolish cdr for less dmg
jagged gust
thats disgusting
cyan bronze
And the tree is better for m+
ocean finch
u didnt speak misinformation but its not the whole truth or completely correct
...
But then we can go no vers and full haste/crit and we are still fine? For M+ content that is, I have all my crafted items as haste/vers now, could it be better to just recraft to haste/crit? (gold isnt an issue)
tardy abyss
Or just buff thane damage
jagged gust
But then we can go no vers and full haste/crit and we are still fine? For M+ con...
It's a sim angle, always
cyan bronze
Or just buff thane damage <:keks:936231610850897992>
I mean
That doesn’t really solve the issue
Of colossus not being great in push keys
ocean finch
It's a sim angle, always
How do I sim as tank tho?
pallid quiver
But then we can go no vers and full haste/crit and we are still fine? For M+ con...
You could go full Mast/Crit or whatever and be perfectly fine. Not optimal, but fine
pallid quiver
How do I sim as tank tho?
Same as DPS
jagged gust
for dps, we always sim dps
pallid quiver
You can't sim for tankiness due to it depending on damage profiles
ocean finch
Well that will give best dmg output
strong forum
But then we can go no vers and full haste/crit and we are still fine? For M+ con...
yes you can go full haste/crit and be omega fine in keys
ocean finch
not survivability, so that feels just like a bait
pallid quiver
And all stats are good defensively, anyhow
strong forum
crit is the best defensive stat for ultra pulls
isnt that what people always claim they want to be tanky for
pallid quiver
not survivability, so that feels just like a bait
There's no point to attempting to mega min-max secondary stats since none are bad defensively
pallid quiver
isnt that what people always claim they want to be tanky for
no they say they want to be strong against bleeds and magic, prot war's weakness
anyhow, excuse them while they never press spell block, reflect, or shield wall
jagged gust
Maxxing mastery for those giga Spell Block reductions (Not me having mostly fury gear still)
cyan bronze
It’s only bait if you sim a defensive trinket (which are bad(this tier)) vs a dmg trinket
ocean finch
Okey, then I just recraft my items to haste/crit
strong forum
you dont have to
weak cedar
does this mean that 70% of incoming damage goes to my ignore pain pool OR that the size of the ignore pain pool is 20% larger but it still prevents 50% of incoming damage?
strong forum
20% larger
cyan bronze
You get 20% more per ignore pain
strong forum
instead of 100k its 120k type deal
cyan bronze
Would 70% IP absorb shield make colossus all that much stronger
I genuinely don’t know how much it would change tbh
pallid quiver
It would still only absorb x amount of damage in the end
strong forum
yeah
strong forum
doesnt matter in case of near oneshots
cyan bronze
Oh true
strong forum
cuz say the ability does 50mil
cyan bronze
Yeah idk that wouldn’t do much of anything
strong forum
doesnt fucking matter if you reduce it by 5mil with 70 or 50%
cyan bronze
cuz say the ability does 50mil
IP would already be le gone
strong forum
xd
cyan bronze
Man colossus is
strong forum
it would only matter if the ability is say 5mil hit
cyan bronze
Just give it a passive 90% dr
strong forum
and you have say 4mil IP
ocean finch
Btw, if we would wanna spec BSV and we are using the talent example from Wowhead M+, which talent are we removing for it? Ravager?
strong forum
any choice you make to get BSV
sucks
you will lose 5%+ dmg in whatever choice you make
ocean finch
Okey, so if we can avoid taking it, we do it, otherwise we accept losing dmg?
pallid quiver
If you give up Ravager, you also lose a lot of burst rage at the start of a pull, and SC loses you a stop venue
strong forum
^
it just sucks either way
to get a fake cheat
we didnt need it in DF, even when if wouldnt have been bugged, and you dont need it now
pallid quiver
It can be a real strong talent, but it's not an actual cheat and hasn't been fully proven to be needed yet
I've yet to see a log where it's been hard required. If it was, game's in bad times zone
ocean finch
I see, ty for the answers!
jagged pier
Well it has when u take a beam in DB without pressing a defensive it eill keep u alive then
pallid quiver
It's normally 1.2 mins or so for a lot of people getting use of it like that
ocean finch
Gotcha
In that case, we wanna have embell that gives crit above 80% and not vers, if Im planning to go haste/crit that is?
strong forum
my sim says vers embellish
pallid quiver
The vers one might actually edge it out if you've got all haste/crit gear otherwise
strong forum
cuz without that embellish i have a mighty 700 vers on my gear
pallid quiver
There's funny balances with how stats work. Without going too in-depth, getting more of one stat makes the others more valuable. Hence why simming stuff is recommended so often, since it auto does the math work for you and your very specific situation
strong forum
its just basic math
the less you have of X the more effective gain is increasing it
the more you have of Y the less effective gain is increasing that
pallid quiver
Listen, Nome, I don't even expect basic single-digit arithmetic from people no more
that's beyond your average American
strong forum
thank god im not american
cyan bronze
not good if you goal is optimal play
What if I want battle scarred veteran cus it has a fucking dope name?
strong forum
strong forum
What if I want battle scarred veteran cus it has a fucking dope name?
then youre roleplaying and anything goes
just send it
pallid quiver
What if I want battle scarred veteran cus it has a fucking dope name?
You're living the real life
cyan bronze
Let’s freaking go
ocean finch
Yea, I will sim and check, but I have 10,5k vers atm, 6k crit and 18k haste, can switch 4,4k vers to crit if I want, another 1,2k vers to crit after I craft 2 more items
pallid quiver
Talents immovable object
Gets pulled by Ansurek or even the trash outside Princess
weak cedar
wanted to play colossus for the whole "be passively tankier + have a slower/easier playstyle" vibe but it seems painful and thane feels 10x better
strong forum
cyan bronze
and im at a loss for why
It’s a good talent tbh if you specifically want avatar everytime you hit shield wall and shield wall everytime you press avatar
strong forum
theres a reason why i said that colossus is harder
cyan bronze
strong forum
it is absolutely broken
like disgustingly broken talent
IF you can play around it
cuz then youre just immortal
cyan bronze
Like if the metric is getting shieldwall when you hit avatar and avatar when you shield wall
It’s 10/10
strong forum
but you also lose disgusting amounts of damage + 90% of SW procs are rather fake
strong forum
doesnt
cyan bronze
When I was first reading prot talents
I was like “that combo has to be insanely broken and why prot is so tanky”
Doesn’t work
tardy abyss
same as ava procs from thane dont proc TC reset or free TBs
Should be like that tbh
strong forum
THATS WHATS HAPPENING
pallid quiver
I think we should get that, but every time we proc shield wall or avatar, we just get a megaxucute that just cleavves every enemy in front of us for 50% max HP damage; 100% on a crit
cyan bronze
Thank you but I would like my tierset idea from a few days ago instead
pallid quiver
If you get bonus crit damage, the damage just rolls over and stores on your next auto attack, and hits the next enemy for all the overflow damage
weak cedar
another question, why does thane play champion's spear and colossus plays thunderous roar? i thought colossus was more crit-focused so spear would make more sense on it, also more rage generation which is one of its main problems
cyan bronze
.
pallid quiver
Colossus benefits from the bleeds and all
Thane deals more damage with spear with optimal stats
cyan bronze
U can squeeze a lot of burst into spear
pallid quiver
overall it's effectively "Sims better" for both with complete bis gear
cyan bronze
Alot of vo’s and tbs with thane
Also
Troar syncs nicely with colossus
You get it every set vs every other w spear
strong forum
colossus gets frequent dmg amps specifically for bleeds and overall dmg
so its better to have 45sec roar buff bleeds + demolish buff everytime
strong forum
ima try dummy slappage with spear rq
cyan bronze
Nom what is your revenge split in keys typically
strong forum
strong forum
yeah but do you do 1.15mil dps in dawnbreaker
cyan bronze
Idk I do a lot
Idk if I logged any of my col keys from yday
I did not. Gg.
I was top damage in one of the farm keys with an aug tho
strong forum
cyan bronze
Beat a 634 fdk
cyan bronze
Can we rework ravager capstone to be double ravager+ 20% increased(instead of decreased) dmg+ the extra rage vs 45 sec ravager nom
cyan bronze
Wtf is banner
tardy abyss
I only know the pvp banner
cyan bronze
I did not
This one is rly fun tho
I love prot war tho might be my new long term main
strong forum
let me tell you about peak
cyan bronze
It’s like they made bear but fun
strong forum
the time when pwar played the best
in the past 4 expansions
ignore the ally buffing part
tardy abyss
lmao
strong forum
thats just sims
cyan bronze
Was it a lot of mastery
strong forum
cyan bronze
You needed like, 16 external rage per second to keep 100% uptime on it
Was this possible
strong forum
Conq Banner granted ~10% mastery 15% str (?) (via conduit) and 4 rage per second
with glory legendary, you could extend banner
if you played and charge weaved optimally
in combination with
and shield slamming and spamming IP properly
you could infinitely maintain banner
cyan bronze
Oh that is poggers
pallid quiver
The charge weaving is easier than it sounds like due to the increased move speed
cyan bronze
My allies always fast as fuck
strong forum
and effectively have a permanent 30% dmg buff for yourself
no the ally buff didnt extend
strong forum
it was only a personal
cyan bronze
Oh.
strong forum
you never gave a fuck about buffing others
strong forum
it was your personal permanent 30% dmg buff
cyan bronze
That is pretty peak
pallid quiver
Everyone else was always like, "Wow, it's so nice of our Warrior tank to keep buffing us 🙂 "
strong forum
also turning you into the 2nd strongest execute class
in the entire game
cuz you generated up to 1000 rage per minute
cyan bronze
also turning you into the 2nd strongest execute class
Is the first me, but on prot war
pallid quiver
However, if you were bad and couldn't keep up with like the 100 CPM, your performance go big down
strong forum
but it was such a high skill ceiling that 99.8% of prot warriors couldnt play it properly
cyan bronze
When was this
strong forum
maybe 99.9%
cyan bronze
SL?
pallid quiver
SL S3-4
strong forum
shadowlands s3 and s4
best time to play pwar ever
it was 20x harder than any other tank
strong forum
it was so much fun 
weak cedar
https://i.imgur.com/hDEhSAX.png
can i see numbers for thane too? or any site to look at things like this
pallid quiver
then there was BDK across the road at the same time
which cracked out damage and defenses for minimal effort
strong forum
waiko sims are a personal thing to simulate how much dmg your character does in the given parameters
lofty warren
How are the Europeans celebrating Thanksgiving?
weak cedar
oh damn
cyan bronze
How are the Europeans celebrating Thanksgiving?
I’m forcing them to
weak cedar
any good place to learn about sims?
cyan bronze
Even I’m celebrating(secretly American)
strong forum
@jagged pier post the copy pasta
weak cedar
seems like a crazy tool
strong forum
How are the Europeans celebrating Thanksgiving?
we dont
pallid quiver
They should hunt the rowdy Americans and eat them
jagged pier
<@179993058186625025> post the copy pasta
which one?
cyan bronze
cyan bronze
They _should_ hunt the rowdy Americans and eat them
We already do
strong forum
the sim pasta
lofty warren
But thanksgiving is a world wide holiday .?
jagged pier
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that whenever somebody ask for advice we ask them for a log, and if you’re new you might have no idea what that means or how to get one so :
🔸 First, download Loggerhead (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/loggerhead) or ERT (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools)
Once you have one of these any time you enter a zone where you might want a log (ie dungeon/raid/torghast) these addons will automatically start logging (in the case of ERT you have to activate automated logging in the options).
Alternatively if you don’t want to install an addon for it, whenever you are going to do an activity you want to log type /combatlog in chat to start logging said activity.
Remember to activate advanced logging in the options (System -> Network -> Advanced Combat Logging)
All these options will store your logs in your wow file inside the retail folder and the log file.
🔸 Second, go here (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/client/download) download the client. Select the live section of the client, select the upload a log button and select the fight you’re interested in putting up as a log and boom you’re done.
🔸 Third, once you’ve done all this, your log is uploaded you can put it up here and we can look at it together to see if you’re doing something wrong.
pallid quiver
that's some real MURKIKA brain right there
lofty warren
It's to celebrate when America defeated the Indians and brought freedom to the world if I recall
cyan bronze
I swear I’m not that murika
cyan bronze
It's to celebrate when America defeated the Indians and brought freedom to the w...
Ye
strong forum
"brought together freedom to the world"
cyan bronze
Give or take
blazing zinc
Hello, would anyone be willing to explain how to "cheese" the 1st Ara boss? I noticed people in high keys tank is very close to the eggs and the boss never eats the adds. How exactly does this work please? Thank you very much for your time, much appreciated! ❤️
strong forum
you just stand close enough but not too close to the eggs
thats all there is to it
cyan bronze
You effectively edge the spiders
strong forum
its just so the dps and yourself dont have to waste too much time running around
pallid quiver
just drag the boss onto the spiders and call it a healer issue, ez
strong forum
thats all there is to it
cyan bronze
just drag the boss onto the spiders and call it a healer issue, ez
No you have to edge the spiders
pallid quiver
But then you have to, like, play the game instead of going full no thoughts head empty
Just heal through the murder damage, ez
cyan bronze
But then you have to, like, play the game instead of going full no thoughts head...
What if I’m playing league of legends can I willump and nunu q a spider on first boss of ara kara
pallid quiver
There we go, there's the brainrot
cyan bronze
It has to escape somehow
mighty valley
if you’re playing league of legends you likely have clinical depression. please see a doctor
cyan bronze
It’s like I cast ignore pain to release rage but I cast discord sentences and enter key to release brain rot
blazing zinc
is there a way to tell if I'm at the right range? if they reach the boss hitbox, he eats them right. And if the boss is too far, he will go eat them too right? How can I tell the right range where none of that happens?
cyan bronze
if you’re playing league of legends you likely have clinical depression. please ...
Boy do I have news for you
Not only do I, it’s resilient
tardy abyss
is there a way to tell if I'm at the right range? if they reach the boss hitbox,...
Boss doesnt eat them if theyre too far
strong forum
is there a way to tell if I'm at the right range? if they reach the boss hitbox,...
thats the hard part, generally yeah i guess the bosses hitbox ring is fairly close
but that also requires your DPS to NOT lead the adds into the boss
and CC them etc etc
requires a lot of trust
blazing zinc
ok thank you!
onyx pike
does shieldwall and bark stack their dmg reductions?
or does the higher wall cancel out bark?
cyan bronze
Stack
onyx pike
ty
pallid quiver
Multiplicatively, by the way, so it's not 50% + 20%
cyan bronze
But it becomes less effective technically (reducing 50 mil dmg is more reduction than 40 mil)
blazing zinc
Boss doesnt eat them if theyre too far
so does the add get eaten only if it passes through the boss hitbox? does the boss never eat it from farther than that? And the adds always fixate and follow players and never go to the boss? So technically unless a player kites the add through boss, they should never get eaten, is that correct?
tardy abyss
so does the add get eaten only if it passes through the boss hitbox? does the bo...
yup thats correct
sturdy heart
so does the add get eaten only if it passes through the boss hitbox? does the bo...
Yes except, if your group takes too long to kill them all it will leap around and eat the ones left.
weak cedar
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that ...
this was great, thanks a lot
is there a way to simulate (for example) a BiS prot warrior doing their optimal rotation?
so i can compare optimal things without my mistakes influencing the log
tribal wharf
whats the new leavers thing about in keys
or its just guys that join and leave at soon as it starts
i feel like its different story when you die on trash, die on boss, die with lust on retry
strong forum
is there a way to simulate (for example) a BiS prot warrior doing their optimal ...
thats exactly what the sim does
this is the ST breakdown
fiery gale
nah the joke is, lead asks if ++ possible, I say depends how often you die and they die 4 times
strong forum
on how big of a pull
fiery gale
pretty chill, first 2 chargers with big one. Then chained middle pack into stairs pack after 1-2 mobs were dead
strong forum
fiery gale
is this bugged? Im pretty sure we did 10
fiery gale
but even ingame it says 10 xD
strong forum
did you deplete the key
fiery gale
no it was still +1
keen pelican
Recent tuning for prot didn't change anything in terms of tanking M+ did it?
strong forum
correct
fiery gale
Anyone else noticed when leaving a timewalking dungeon, you still have some dot on you that kills you then?
For levelling dungeons
Happened like 5 times on my timewalking journey 10-71
Yesterday
Also shaman spirit link is super broken when you’re like level 30 with 80s together
Wiped us
toxic pewter
wat
mighty valley
There’s that razorfen dungeon with the spirit link boss that randomly kills you all one out of ten times while leveling
round wolf
ok so I have 1 hero and 1 Champ ring
and 90 Gilded Crests
How do I make the 2 rings?
People talk about
foggy sun
Hey guys, how are ya?
Question im new to prot warrior and wowhead says to take spear on the right side of the warrior tree for mythic + but a large majority of the top prots on raiderio take thunderous roar can some explain why?
Also i feel like im not generating fury very quickly. Im using thunderclap and shield slam on cd. Maintianing shield block and dumping the rest into ingnore pain. Only really use revenge on the free proc. Also keep demo shout on cd with shield charge. Is there something im missing or is this just how prot is?
pallid quiver
It's because you're sending everything on IP
You're getting less IP because you're spending everything on IP
Revenge is there specifically to kickstart your rotation when SS and TC are on CD
You always need enough rage to cast Revenge, or else you run out of rage and do nothing
Spear does more damage if properly statted, but Roar is up more often for aggro purposes. It's also easier to use Roar since you don't have to aim
The people pushing highest level keys don't necessarily care about completely optimizing Prot War performance; they care about timing keys, and being the best at a given spec is not the limiting factor in keys
foggy sun
Revenge is there specifically to kickstart your rotation when SS and TC are on C...
Im sorry if this is a dumb question but why is revenge used to Kickstart the rotation?
pallid quiver
It resets SS CD
So it, over time, costs less rage, lets you gen more rage, which is the focus of the spec
foggy sun
Ooooo i didnt know it reset it
Thanks guys youre the best and whats a good haste threshhold to go spec into the fray?
pallid quiver
Somewhere in the range of 30-40% haste pre-buff. The less used you are to the spec and actually managing shield block, as well as the more you need block to be up to have 100% effective uptime, the more haste you need
solid rune
Hey i was wondering im still pretty new to Prot im 626 and im wanting to get more dmg out of my tank
pallid quiver
press more buttons/swap to colossus
With zero context, we can't really tell you anything
raw oracle
Check wowhead for the rotation and beat the dummies for practice
shrewd grove
Hey i was wondering im still pretty new to Prot im 626 and im wanting to get mor...
Logs or no one can help you
blazing zinc
@tardy abyss @sturdy heart Thank you very much!
One last question - if the adds live too long then the boss goes eat them even if they're super far, let's say at the opposite side of the platform, right? So the adds simply need to die in time, else they'll get eaten no matter what?
sharp gale
<@136186601092022273> <@169973738358571008> Thank you very much!
One last questi...
There is no timer on adds, they can be here the whole fight (that’s what people tried to do in the first weeks)
They don’t run towards the boss, they fixate players
And the boss doesn’t go eat them
solid rune
Logs or no one can help you
Sorry i got busy like right as i asked
They are posted now but they are wonky
shrewd grove
They are posted now but they are wonky
Nothing in em
obsidian girder
Hey guys, I am getting my fresh warri ready for m+. I can craft a 606 item and a 619 one right away.
Shield 619 and weapon 606 or the other way around is the best bet ?
blazing condor
shield is better to have higher ilvl
only piece where youll get block value from = better survivability
obsidian girder
Okay thx
subtle rivet
shield is better to have higher ilvl
Can you embellish shields?
wintry nymph
who needs a weapon anyway
sweet summit
Can you embellish shields?
yeah
onyx pike
Question regarding the princess because i got lost - my co-tank told me that i should stand exactly at position X when dropping the portal on certain marker in mythic.
Isn't it, that princess drops the portal, and not the tank? So as long as the boss is positioned exactly on that marker, it doesnt matter where i stand?
tardy abyss
Question regarding the princess because i got lost - my co-tank told me that i s...
Afaik the boss drops it yes
Well at least the guide images say that, in a video I just watched it drops on the tank
On that timestamp you can see it https://youtu.be/Wf68ilKFUMw?si=oM6vrdNxuE0LCtrw&t=116
onyx pike
Afaik the boss drops it yes
then my co is giving me wrong infos 
.. Shes perfectly on that off-center purple mark and he insists that is tand on the rectangle shape when dropping - but i cant since theres dagger and orbs flying
tardy abyss
Check the video
Its super weird
But its not the biggest issue if its only the tank portal not being on the marker
As long as not every portal is off its workable with
@onyx pike I keep not hitting the reply button kek
tardy abyss
It does seem to be the tank but with some weird delays
onyx pike
now i gotta work on my cd usage, should be fine with Wall on every rotation + Last Stand / Spell Block
its just weird to me that spell block takes effect on that debuff
jagged pier
then my co is giving me wrong infos <a:ragey:1198213371154153484> .. Shes perfe...
u very much can u just need to dodge
but as it doesnt drop an add
it just needs to be in the kinda correct place
not exactly on the correct place
onyx pike
so my position doesn't matter in the end?
tardy abyss
Does matter but its not super strict
You wont wipe becaue the tank one is off a few pixel
onyx pike
thats what i thought
but was my first play xp on her yesterday with a new guild so i just took the flak 
jagged pier
it does matter
because if u position the portal wrong u will get sucked into one and die
stuck basin
its very forgiving on the exact position for the suck in - as long as you dont forget and put it center 😅
violet river
heya, do i want to sit battle stance or toggle into defensive stance at the start of bigger packs in keys
pallid quiver
Technically you want to be in Battle Stance as often as possible, using Def Stance more like a defensive CD.
But it's also only a difference of 3% crit
so if you're doing any relevant key levels for your gear/skill, there's very minimal reason to not be in def stance
rancid tiger
shadow basalt
What is the best way of tanking the Chopper Redhook boss fight in Siege of Boralus? (As a prot Warrior) I currently mostly focus on getting aggro/threat on the spawned mobs and occasionally attacking the boss once he is stunned. The shooters makes it a bit hard to group up the mobs and bring them to the boss, especially since i try to avoid getting the cleavers long range "cone" attack hitting the other players.
foggy ingot
You want them to be cleaved down as much as you can really. And you want to be focusing boss damage during the amp as best as you can
torpid dome
yep, just take aggro from the adds
foggy ingot
If you have really spread bombs you should also be ready to use the add to pop the 3rd bomb
wild chasm
Kill the shooter asap (sometimes the dps swap to those to help you get rid of it) and then you can bring the melee mobs to the boss, but remember to face them AWAY from the boss. If you don’t then it can happen the boss will pull the group in and the mobs will frontal everyone. Or you can just stay away with them and tank them
pastel geyser
Question regarding the princess because i got lost - my co-tank told me that i s...
the boss does yea, the way you can think is that she makes clones of herself that drop portals, and she is obv one of the 'entities' that drops a portal
made it make sense for me
cyan bronze
@strong forum
ran a key on this build
i did
alot of dmg
tho i think if i didnt hard troll 1/4th of my windows i would of done more dmg than u did in ur run
wicked pollen
but you refuse to play execute?
cyan bronze
btw Imp Wall is more damage than devastator
i was told on st devastator was more and never simmed it
tbh
wicked pollen
the ss resets give you so much extra to dump on execute
cyan bronze
but i imagine
wicked pollen
check log
cyan bronze
dunno
wicked pollen
and rage of ss and devastator
cyan bronze
@wicked pollen
strong forum
i was told on st devastator was more and never simmed it
simmed it yesterday and imp wall was 100 dps better
cyan bronze
is this the cook
cyan bronze
simmed it yesterday and imp wall was 100 dps better
init
strong forum
so if you count the fact that SW is much MUUUCH shorter CD with it
wicked pollen
that second sc talent beans bro
old basin
wtf is that
cyan bronze
that second sc talent beans bro
its more dmg than bolster..
or idk
maybe sb uptime
cyan bronze
true
strong forum
not having bloodsurge is illegal as colossus
wicked pollen
wtf is that
its how arms players cope with execute not dealing damage
this is for thane
easier to spam execute
round wolf
I just play Double Shield wall as it feels safer in Pugs
cyan bronze
ok
skarm was pretty funny with fully stacked jugg
and 6x orbs
during execute
with her eating like 4 shards
wicked pollen
oh yeah
cyan bronze
Prot is really easy to do negative dmg on
cyan bronze
ye
tribal wharf
which patches was it that warlock imp pet was op for stand and cast fireball over and over and mages had frost bolt (both in the past)
i think if i come back wow, i think will have to be like, similiar one of those situations
cyan bronze
frostfire bolt?
tribal wharf
i think both was cata :S
tribal wharf
but ya, holy shit cata was fun when it first come out
except for theres some boss and you like go inside the stomach or something and bunch of different color oozes and some hard boss
that and pre-nerf the abilities in heroic dungeons, literal 1 shot dps my rogue, many others
strong forum
ye hc queen
sharp gale
It’s because 90% of people who do heroic are bad
violet ginkgo
sharp gale
It’s the same as dps, you come in 605-610 ilvl it’s not crazy to do purple parses (there is a lot more dps players)
sharp gale
<:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
Sorry but I played this game for too long, I know ilvl explain almost 90% of playerbase damage in heroic , bad gameplay is carried by overgear
wooden zodiac
Het guys I have a question. I am ilvl 630 at the moment and it's it's going very well. But with the fray buff I have 50% haste. I was thinking of recrafting all my haste verse gear to verse/crit. What do you guys think I should do
sharp gale
It is harder to go from 95s to 99s than 0 to 90s parses
sharp gale
Het guys I have a question. I am ilvl 630 at the moment and it's it's going very...
Keep stacking haste, there is no big diminishing returns yet
wooden zodiac
Even more 😱
harsh trellis
Is elemental focusing lens still worth it for an everforged longsword?
is there anything else better for a weapon?
strong forum
dusk/dawn
will do you better
its more versatile and raid has so many multitarget encounters that its also simply more damage
harsh trellis
I dont see that as an option for a weapon is that the radiance ones?
killed mythic sikran 3 times now, we just get very unlucky having polearms drop x2 every week
bold tide
is it worth going over the penalty with haste stats ?
sharp gale
is it worth going over the penalty with haste stats ?
Yes because haste is more than 10%+ better than the other stats
bold tide
thankss
sharp gale
I never saw someone with enough haste to be at the 20% diminishing return yet so 🤷♂️
sweet egret
ran a key on this build
is this thane or colossus?
remote tusk
why
either way, its cause ignore small adds whereas you clapped on them, a lot
i guess
strong forum
I had 0 dps on my side
Cuz like 6 fell off or died to wrest
Also funny that you're exactly 1 spot below my alt
wicked pollen
never punished
wicked pollen
what game
rain swan
hi, i come looking for help, im trying to push my alt tank to +10s, i can do 8/9s fine, but i seem to get destroyed on 10s, i dont know if i have something wrong with gear/spec, my ilvl is just low or im just not pressing the correct buttons (likely)
i wonder if anyone can take a look and see if they see anything wrong
rain swan
no, is there an easy way to get that or i need an addon?
wicked pollen
rain swan
i haven't played since cata, not up to date
wicked pollen
that link should explain how to do it
rain swan
i see, well, i didn't have advanced combat logging enabled
wicked pollen
its fine i found a log that someone uploaded
you are getting hit a lot without shield block up or from behind
you should be casting a lot more try to aim for +14 of ss and ip
rain swan
can you link that thing you are looking at
tribal wharf
its yogi so old man game
only 360 game
2010-2011.... not that old!! cope
its pertty old ya, but its fun, probably looks good in 480p game on crt, dunno
wicked pollen
what is it though
tribal wharf
ignore the fortnite shit
rain swan
is there any good weak aura/addon to track shield block uptime and ignore pain ?
rain swan
you should be casting a lot more try to aim for +14 of ss and ip
thanks that helps me already
tribal wharf
its rogue zelda 50 dungeon floors, escape if you can!
wicked pollen
is there any good weak aura/addon to track shield block uptime and ignore pain ?
most weakaura packs for warrior have
or just go to wago.io
rain swan
ok i guess this works, first bar is uptime of shield block, below is ignore pain, thanks, i'll try to keep more close eye to this
crude flame
huys, is htis any good for warrs?
And, specially, for Prot warrs?
I think is considered one of the BiS trinkets of strength classes
cyan bronze
yah
crude flame
Arakara and mark of khaadros would be better?
cyan bronze
prob, sim
crude flame
In the end we sim like dps and choose best dps?
This is what raidbots said, but I dislike it so I'm not gonna equip that trinket >:
violet ginkgo
Sacbrood is for sure.. if you got shard then maybe shard assuming mark and shard is same ilvl.
or re-sim it without the larynx
lusty idol
Can anyone answer this question, please?
wild chasm
Generally tank trinkets this season are pretty bad. Khardros is at 1 minute 30 cooldown which is not that bad and also same as ravager/spear, so you can have a pretty nice setup of AoE damage (mastery being the worst doesn't mean it is bad)
wild chasm
Can anyone answer this question, please?
I answered it above
lusty idol
I answered it above
Thank you so much, he was not getting any replies / he's new so I figured I'd reach out and try my luck to find him an answer, thank you so much for your reply!! ❤️
violet ginkgo
Technically speaking when you boost your mastery you also increasing your damage because mastery for prot increase atk power and crit block.
idle copper
https://www.wowhead.com/item=219316/ceaseless-swarmgland?bonus=10390#see-also
is the above any good for mitigation?
Currently using the below
https://www.wowhead.com/item=212450/swarmlords-authority
Both will be at 623
