protection

[shell shale]

tyh

thanks! is there perhaps any way to make the wago show buttons to press as well? So that I could remove the below bar as it's just too much on the screen

[dense coral]

Can you get the best Trinkets in Protection spec, or do i need to open vault in Fury/ Arms

[proud plank]

u can put ur keybind over every spell wa

[jagged pier]

i mean u can get sac in prot spec

but all the other trinkets are garbo

so might as well be arms

[dense coral]

Sac is also in arms?

[jagged pier]

sac is in all specs

it can be looted by every spec in the game i believe

[dense coral]

Thx ❤️

[bleak delta]

Got err done... onto court😄

[sharp gale]

I did my first few pulls of silken monday, I after 20 pulls I already feel bad

[bleak delta]

oh man, any advice? 😅

[sharp gale]

Absolutely none, as said, just did few pulls so it’s like if I tried to explain advices on kyvesa after the first night on her… I would be like…. « Well I only saw 1 min of fight with 1/4 players dead all the time »

Just intensively watch fight video, we discovery pulled the boss, was supposed to be a break week

[violet ginkgo]

advice on myth sikran and rash then (I haven't reach rash yet though.)

[sharp gale]

Specific as tank or general ?

[violet ginkgo]

spesific tank

[sharp gale]

Nothing to say, they are exactly the same as heroic

[bleak delta]

where are you struggling?

[violet ginkgo]

oh soo I can just chill around and let those DPS and Healer work for me

[sharp gale]

If you did the first boss, you saw sikran and rash fight as tank perspective

[jagged pier]

literally none its the same fight for u

[sharp gale]

Just do your rotation for 5 min

That’s it

[bleak delta]

on Rash, before move, make sure you have some sort of defensive though, or asking for heals

the dot can tick heavily, and when moving the healers arn't really healing

[sharp gale]

Regular tank bosses, that’s why I don’t want to tank in raid

[bleak delta]

so have something in the pocket

[jagged pier]

i dunno u just mitigate assault properly and it does no damage as it does less the more u mitigate

and we are the only pure mitigation tank

[sharp gale]

You can even take multiple ones you don’t die

[jagged pier]

any tank can do that

[bleak delta]

i mean we end up taking multiple all the time because the taunt function seems a bit buggy, but lets say you get 3 stacks, it can be a bit iffy from my experience

[jagged pier]

its not buggy at all

u just taunt during the cast

if u arent tanking

[bleak delta]

probably just our timing has been off sometimes

[sharp gale]

Even ovinax Idk what to say about tank, it’s also just press def button each X seconds and move the boss, you just have to tank switch adds in the fight

[bleak delta]

because we will do that and we still get two stacks on 1 tank, rather annoying but yea probably just user error then if its not an actual issue poeple are facing

[jagged pier]

dont be weak be the spider tank

cause they spell blockable

its good memes

[sharp gale]

Wdym? We 2 tank the boss

[jagged pier]

3 tank makes it a joke

[wicked pollen]

happy

[jagged pier]

no dps check anymore

[wicked pollen]

i killed yesterday

with 3

and we extended

[jagged pier]

u literally add like 100 more pulls if u 2 tank it

[bleak delta]

we 3 tank ovinax, and its so free

[wicked pollen]

worst of all worlds

[bleak delta]

😂

[violet ginkgo]

I see. @sharp gale and @jagged pier thx for the info. Yeah I just beat first two pugging last week and then first two pugging again this week and actually taste sikran.

[sharp gale]

Yes but it’s also easy 2 tanks idk we recleaned easy with only 1 mass grab bc the other is on vacation

[jagged pier]

[violet ginkgo]

well the pug group arrange continue to try sikran later on weekend hopefully I get to see rash

[sharp gale]

Idk if we would have kill the boss in 50 pulls if we 3 tanked 3 heal the boss and not 2 tank 4 heal

[jagged pier]

u 3 tank 4 heal

[sharp gale]

Oh yeah with the buff now it should be easy to do so, we didn’t really want to learn p3 tho

[jagged pier]

u dont do p3

u break 4 eggs total in p3

[sharp gale]

The time we killed if you 3 tanked the boss you would do p3 without skipping eggs

[jagged pier]

when did u kill it?

[sharp gale]

More than a month ago I think

Kyvesa took 3 weeks and we didn’t really raid the last reset

[jagged pier]

nah u were fine to 3 tank 4 heal

the changes that made it doable where in septemebr i believe

or start of october

[wicked pollen]

i lost 300k bc of that shit

i hate it

grerr

[sharp gale]

It’s not the 15% nerf that made it possible to skip eggs AND 3 tank 4 heals, it’s the buff+ ilvl gear

[jagged pier]

i dunno man i killed it a week or mabye just a few days after u did

and we progged with 3 tanks 4 healers for the whole time

[sharp gale]

You just have better boss damage that’s it

Like in my raid I was not last as fury in boss dmg (was middle), you know it’s an issue

[jagged pier]

i mean u said when u killed it if u 3 tanked the boss u had to do the whole p3 thats just not true of the time it might true for your raid team and that might have been what u were saying, but it sounded more of a general for any team at that time which wasnt the case

[sharp gale]

Idk we had 43 raid dps parse seems like average

[jagged pier]

yer we had really high damage

[sharp gale]

Show the raid boss dmg, we had 15,8 m just curious

[sharp gale]

Like the purple shit almost touched the eggs ?

[jagged pier]

we killed just after the eggs were broken

we rezzed the rogue

but we had nearly 1 min without 2 dps alive

oh no sorry

with 1 dead

we rezzed teh warrior too

if we hadnt lost the dps probably before the purple hit the eggs tbh

[wicked pollen]

did you have to play red class?

[jagged pier]

no

other tank does that

my guild knows i would just quit if made to reroll

espeically to that

i also technically was dps at the time but the guardian went boomy and i went prot

cause spell block is busted for spiders

we did not change back for ky

[wicked pollen]

does he have to take every tank buster

[jagged pier]

nah we 3 tank we just swap between whoevers not got the debuff / the 2 tanks not doing doing spiders or at high stacks of spider debuff

we basically yolo taunt

[wicked pollen]

XD

we 3 tanked

until yesterday gm who had to play 5 specs to fill came on brew boss died in 8 pulls

XD

[sharp gale]

If I was to redo the prog 100% 3 tank the boss

[wicked pollen]

i hate how we break 4 in p3

[jagged pier]

thats what our other tank plays but the buff it so pointless and grip so much better for slug we just do without monk

[wicked pollen]

I DO 0 dam

[jagged pier]

got to be done

otherwise u get the dot and die

or u just have to do more ST

[wicked pollen]

I LOST 300k DPS!

what dot

[jagged pier]

if the purple breaks an egg

[sharp gale]

Im top dps = lower parse than others

[jagged pier]

u get a massive dot on u

[wicked pollen]

real

[jagged pier]

which even at 1 stack wipes the raid pretty much

[wicked pollen]

what if we just did 4 on 3-1

then 4 on 3-2

number go up

🙂

[jagged pier]

not how it works unfortunatly because it depends on the goo

and what it breaks

[sharp gale]

Tbh the warlock deserved his 98 he dps like a god last reclear

[wicked pollen]

my warlocks did 0 dam!

[sharp gale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x1c72FrjVGq8JQBf#fight=23&type=damage-done

[strong forum]

Parasite de sang~

[sharp gale]

Oui

Don’t watch the wipes, it’s the first time the brew did the boss/ the first time we did the boss without 2 mass grab

Even on the kill I think we had a big surprise of all the raid randomly getting mid life on last set of p2

[wicked pollen]

0 dam!

[sharp gale]

Noob, lower parse than a dude doing 1 m less dps

[sharp gale]

So how kyve prog has been going ?

Nice

[jagged pier]

hes only just begun

[cyan bronze]

I see a lower parse than a guy doing 2.5m less

[sharp gale]

I hate kyvesa I prefer ovinax tbh

[wicked pollen]

im playing 🐉

[wicked pollen]

yes

[cyan bronze]

Dev?

[jagged pier]

they both bad

[wicked pollen]

oui

i quit aug in keys

that shit is so mind numbing

[cyan bronze]

dev is nice for that fight

hover hover deep breath hover hover is nice af

[sharp gale]

It’s like current dungeon pool, nw is enjoyable because it’s the « less bad » dungeon

[jagged pier]

thats a take on nw

[cyan bronze]

They’re all ass I don’t compare murderers

[jagged pier]

nah mists is chill

[sharp gale]

I just remember general nw hate in SL and now people like it somehow

[plush tendon]

I think the hate for NW in SL was for high key pushing

[jagged pier]

already have the achieve and portal no need to do it

[plush tendon]

3rd and last boss were absolute brick walls

[sharp gale]

Ofc mist is chill bc easy but boring ass dungeon

[plush tendon]

as a weekly 10 key though.... NW is chill

[wicked pollen]

hat achieve

[jagged pier]

any mists weekly farmers

[wicked pollen]

me

im flooding my dk

bc behind on crestso

[jagged pier]

i have 69 timed 10s-11s

51 of them are mists

[plush tendon]

my tier list for my favorite dungeons to do weekly keys on (currently; list subject to change)

[jagged pier]

SV

🤮

[plush tendon]

yea, Im high on SV right now

maybe cause I havent done too many

[jagged pier]

i mean the changes made it easy

[sharp gale]

I think it’s the same for me, I do so much mist only, I forget other dungeon mechs

[plush tendon]

so it still has some novelty

[jagged pier]

i still hate it from trying to time 10 early on

[plush tendon]

also, big pulls

[jagged pier]

[plush tendon]

I also like GB... but as a weekly key its way too long

so loses major points

[jagged pier]

SV is alot better nowppl know mechanics

but for farming weekly

brain off mists it is

[plush tendon]

I just get so fucking bored in Mists

[sharp gale]

Im a secret ara hater

[plush tendon]

at least in NW you can play super aggro in the first area

[sharp gale]

Maybe sacbrood farm is the main reason

[plush tendon]

if your group is down

[plush tendon]

the only reason I like Ara Kara is you can pull decent size pulls and its fast

I also think the bosses are relatively fun/fair

[sharp gale]

I too enjoy NW 10s, I just remember last boss shield etc back in SL, it’s not a « good » dungeon overall tho I would say it’s an average

I think if they replaced the 1 dude to kill and all dies packs and named caster pack, nerf throw flesh etc, and it may become a good dungeon

[jagged pier]

next season is actually fucking horrid

[sharp gale]

They will make Motherlode a press W dungeon 100%

[jagged pier]

motherload i like

everything else

tho

i guess im membering it with pillars tho

so u mass pulled then skipped

[sharp gale]

You don’t know what they will do with motherlode, if they don’t touch it, maybe the death run at the end will be weird with -15 seconds

[jagged pier]

1:15

ish

[wicked pollen]

i just realized i have an exam tomorrow!

i havent studied!

[jagged pier]

yuge

[wicked pollen]

we game

[jagged pier]

the gamer move

[sharp gale]

I pray too they don’t touch it and just change the obvious cringe shit back in bfa, it would be my s2 mist

[jagged pier]

youll be running priory unless they change the trinket

even in hc version now it does like 45kdps and that excluding the crit it gives u

[plush tendon]

Im excited for the new dungeon, Cinderbrew, and the Hallowfall church one

[sharp gale]

I just imagine priory with casts being important to kicks, I already hate it

[plush tendon]

oh, and the one in Dornagal

I think next season aint a terrible pool

tbh

[wicked pollen]

for some reason i thought i had 3x mists done on my dk

i did that latest 10 with full st talents

oops

[sharp gale]

Im waiting gilded crest achieve to go ape on alts,

[plush tendon]

^

same

my alts can clear 10s

so I aint spending any crests

till I get that dumb achievement

[sharp gale]

Like you, I just do one 10 on my hunt and Druid, they don’t do anything else

[plush tendon]

I still need myth track bracers

but thats it

everything else is 639

though... do I need two rings?

at 639?

[wicked pollen]

except im not clearing mythic on dk and its probably crafting every item in the world

im missing 2 rings and a belt

[sharp gale]

I still need second ring, bracers and neck… im at a point next week I would not be able to spend my crests if tonight I don’t loot rash bracers or ovi ring

[wicked pollen]

but i have a belt in vault

[jagged pier]

i think so and trinkets

[plush tendon]

fudge

I got trinkets

[jagged pier]

which means i need another ring and bracers

[plush tendon]

same

[jagged pier]

and to upgrade a trinket

[plush tendon]

maybe once the new ring thing comes out

Ill get it

we are extendo on Queen right now

so no chance to get more gear from raid

[jagged pier]

extendo and court

[plush tendon]

only vault

[sharp gale]

I want to play alts before the ring, wow doesn’t let me do unless I do 70 dungeons

[wicked pollen]

my 2nd trinket is rash trinket

😦

[jagged pier]

so never reclear again

[wicked pollen]

i also get 0 mythic raid vaults this week

[jagged pier]

not that i can get upgrades from teh raid anyway

[wicked pollen]

https://tenor.com/s5FVyEB75Au.gif

[jagged pier]

well expect queen

mythic

and fucking neck because rare

[sharp gale]

I have it in bag just in case, still with a 626 sacbrood

[plush tendon]

my only upgrades on my DK are Myth track Queen ring and the rare cloak

otherwise.... Im done

oh, and the rare neck for when I want to be a vamp kid

[wicked pollen]

i took it because it saved me crests and i needed a second trinket

[sharp gale]

I got this morning the cloak, I took it for free crest upgrade lol

[plush tendon]

Harbinger of the Gilded shouldve been 636

639 is cancer

[wicked pollen]

real

[jagged pier]

90 to craft is cancer

[wicked pollen]

real

[jagged pier]

myth should always be 4 not 6

[wicked pollen]

12 crests per timed key is cancer

real

[plush tendon]

I dont mind myth going to 6

[sharp gale]

It is cringe, people only have maybe 14 vault left until next patch wtf

[plush tendon]

but the catchup/discount for alts should be sooner

oh, and hero should go higher

[jagged pier]

honestly i should be able to send crests to alts

if i max

[wicked pollen]

real

[plush tendon]

like, hero track should take you to 632 and myth track to 639

[jagged pier]

it just goes to the cap on an alt of my choice

[jagged pier]

i agree with that

[plush tendon]

they should also delete valorstones

[jagged pier]

true

[sharp gale]

I Hope next runed crest will not be cancer, we will not start with 300 cap like this patch

[plush tendon]

useless fucking currency

[jagged pier]

well no they just didnt need to nerf everyway of getting them

[keen spruce]

Very new to prot, usually play fury but want to try it out in keys 10-12. Some of the builds I see on logs are fairly different than what wowhead presents for thane in m+. I see tanks using 2x shield block talent and ditching ravager for the cheat death and even taking roar over spear - any thoughts?

[jagged pier]

the zek farm was fine tbh

[plush tendon]

we have crests

why do we need valorstones?

what does it do?

[keen spruce]

I hate these

[jagged pier]

u run the ones on wowhead

[jagged pier]

makes ppl do more content

[keen spruce]

Tyty

[ionic yoke]

We need them to be angry at the gane

[sharp gale]

I bursted to laugh on the veteran gear box for 300+ valorstone

[plush tendon]

its feels redundant

[keen spruce]

Vstones are rebranded artifact power that feels worse when you don’t have them

[plush tendon]

I mean, Im chill with that

if its a currency for TMOG and alt catch up gear

sure

[ionic yoke]

Crests are also bad

[plush tendon]

but not for upgrades

[jagged pier]

just bring back the farms killing zek in like a min for like 40 was fine honestl

[keen spruce]

Can’t believe they killed that mang

[plush tendon]

idk, I think crests have overall been a success

[tropic tangle]

there is zero reason to have 2 currencies for upgrading

[sharp gale]

You get exact same 580 gear with vault gear guy

[tropic tangle]

crests are fine - it stratifies the upgrades to different levels of content which is what they didn't like about df s1

it's like they just forgot to remove stones

[sharp gale]

Your alts already have a way to get « fine gear » to start

[jagged pier]

theres 0 reason to have any currency for upgrading

[plush tendon]

DF S2 gearing was a disaster

if people remember

[jagged pier]

u should just get the gear at a ilvl

[ionic yoke]

If they were like how they had it in Wrath/Cata where you could buy anything you were missing or an upgrade for justice points, they'd be better

[jagged pier]

and thats it

[plush tendon]

I think like half or more then half of my gear ended up being crafted

XD

[tropic tangle]

I mean, I'd be fine with that too

[ionic yoke]

But they're not. They don't respect your time

[plush tendon]

made raid actually useless

[sharp gale]

I didn’t play DF a lot, but I remember raid being useless since week 2

Don’t remember which patch tho

[keen spruce]

First patch I think is when you were basically fully crafted gear but that still took a long time

[plush tendon]

it was Aberrus and maybe vault

that was before gear upgrading

[sharp gale]

What an horrible dungeon pool at launch

[plush tendon]

and in Aberrus crafted was higher I level then like the first 6 boss I level on Mythic

[sharp gale]

Shadow moon burial ground

[plush tendon]

I hated Shadowmoon

[sharp gale]

Court of star

[plush tendon]

I liked Halls of Valor

Court was annoying

Temple of Jade was poop

Azure Vault I also really enjoyed

[sharp gale]

The last pack of temple jade and the last boss

[plush tendon]

it was just a shit dungeon

and SBG was just way too easy

got real boring

[sharp gale]

Tbh grim is the best pre m+ dungeon remake they did

[plush tendon]

real fast

[plush tendon]

I agree

I also sometimes liked Throne of the Tides

but I was pushing that season and had one baller run with the bois

that I remember fondly

[sharp gale]

Throne of the tides was still kinda little shit for same reasons as the other ones

[plush tendon]

yea, my view of it is super distorted

[sharp gale]

Really old / pre m+ dungeon : classic wow mechanics but dmg bumped to be relevant (be awful)

[plush tendon]

My favorite single Mythic Plus run ever

all the lads were gaming that key

it was amazing

[sharp gale]

My favorite was a weekly 15 freehold last season of bfa

13 or 14 min the dungeon

[plush tendon]

sometimes you just get a god run

and, regardless of dungeon, you just get so hyped afterwards

[jagged pier]

last tiem i enjoyed m+

[plush tendon]

like this BRH 30

[sharp gale]

Yes we were like just go ape shit, pull everything with every boss even if it’s over count, do every nzoth affix mini bosses with the last boss

[plush tendon]

what a time

even better we did it with a not so meta comp

Ret, Arms, Holy Priest XD

just gaming

[sharp gale]

But my favorite « push » run is a depleted 27 motherlode

[plush tendon]

Im a little nervous with them bringing back Motherlode

The obelisks in S4 of BFA made that dungeon really nice

[sharp gale]

Because it was god run but last boss, where (I don’t remember fully) they finished the boss as 2 with the timer ticking

[shadow haven]

belt or turn pants into catalyst

[sharp gale]

Im scared too of Motherlode without nzoth affix, I don’t want to have a mandatory rogue in my key

[plush tendon]

idk... what do your sims say?

that is a nice belt though; crit/haste

[shadow haven]

sims? "shrugs"

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-9305751

not good i'm afraid!

[sharp gale]

But I’m more scared of them touching motherlode and giving it the « current blizz dungeon philosophy » than not having the nzoth affix

[plush tendon]

I think Motherlode will be fine for weekly keyers

[sharp gale]

It is a nice belt indeed

[plush tendon]

depends on how they want people to approach the 3rd and 4th area of trash

cause those were usually skipped

3rd boss is also a tank/group killer

[sharp gale]

The sim will tell the belt if you have to choose between the cloak or the belt

Just because of stat budget of cloaks

[plush tendon]

cloak is usually rare cloak at 639 or crafted with embellishment

[sharp gale]

Well as fury, this one is the bis one, I took the rare cloak to make the upgrade free on it today

[smoky anvil]

Nzoth affix made several BFA dungeons a lot cozier than they otherwise were. Praying my rogue in my group stays on his rogue next season.

[sharp gale]

You know they will slightly change the dungeon trashs, so maybe they will force you to do last packs / maybe they get the gatekeeper treatment

Motherlode still is a big ? Because current dungeon philosophy of blizz is horrible

[shadow haven]

Motherlode is the greatest mythic plus dungeon of ALL TIME!!!

[sharp gale]

Not if they make first area trash gives no % and force you to do any more trash than first area because they were cancer trashs

[wicked pollen]

bring me back to when i was just learning

[sharp gale]

It was legion ?

[jagged pier]

nah thats not legion

[sharp gale]

I don’t remember black rook hold, maybe it’s the French name I just know let me look

Oh yes it is a legion dungeon and it was indeed a returning dungeon too

Bastion du Freux

[jagged pier]

well i can tell u thats not legion cause the warrior has spear

and the DF tier set icon

and auguary

and thats a lot of pips there

[wicked pollen]

i miss s3

i swear i was still learning how to play fury and i had reached 6/9

[jagged pier]

furys just press the bright button

always

and forever

[wicked pollen]

you say tht

but i was pressing ww in st

🙂

and double rampaging

[jagged pier]

[sharp gale]

I had still slam and ww on my bars as prot in SL

[wicked pollen]

jakey

i was new

first time raiding with a guild

HOLY BALASTA

[sharp gale]

First time myth raid with the boys is my favorite period of wow too

[wicked pollen]

it was not the boys

[sharp gale]

It was nyalotha

[wicked pollen]

the boys were playing wrath

[jagged pier]

when u start doing mechanics to kill bosses

fell off hard by the end

[sharp gale]

Did I say enough times I hate kyvesa ? You made me remember it thx jakey

[jagged pier]

i also hate ky

got a dogshit pass

and we wont be doing it again

[wicked pollen]

jakey i was a demon

DEMON MODE

[jagged pier]

hc?

[wicked pollen]

YEAH

[jagged pier]

cause that was mythic screenshot for me

[sharp gale]

HUH you are selected to do the dash as a melee = you stand still for 10+ seconds

[jagged pier]

dont even know what hc logs i have

[wicked pollen]

yes

just be 🐉

[sharp gale]

Huh you are selected TWICE to do the dash

[wicked pollen]

yes

[jagged pier]

gaming

[sharp gale]

« I want the raid to wipe now »

[jagged pier]

[wicked pollen]

my favorite part is im shooting beams at the boss

rotation perfectly

details right above tanks

[sharp gale]

What made you turn into a gay 🐉 ? The look is my biggest turn off

I love dev since the launch of class but god they look awful

[wicked pollen]

we had like 11 melee

🙂

and i happened to have a geared ranged character

[wicked pollen]

i think i peaked tww prepatch though

[jagged pier]

cause u cna look like the 100% of the time

[wicked pollen]

idk how to make evoker visage look decent

that shit has to be impossible

[sharp gale]

We had 10.5 melees (monk heal) : I don’t want to be melee in raid ever again

[wicked pollen]

idk

but we just decided to keep 2 dhs

but also just barely started

i just pray to god i get off this class

so i can get transmitter

[sharp gale]

My whole guild doesn’t want a transmitter to drop me included

I don’t want to jump around on silken court or ansurek

[lofty warren]

Do you change talents for different m+ keys or is the 1 build good for all of them?

[wicked pollen]

i have 2

execute

[sharp gale]

Don’t you turn into a dragon each time you press a spell ?

[wicked pollen]

or do i want to not think

[jagged pier]

nope not on warrior

[wooden widget]

This is where I’m at 😂

[jagged pier]

u can choose

[wicked pollen]

my peak

[jagged pier]

im perma human fmale

[sharp gale]

Oh but warrior can be gnome, so it’s not an issue, was talking about playing evoker

[wicked pollen]

grr

🐉

https://tenor.com/bVnW1.gif

[sharp gale]

Im prepping a druid, might as well try prep an evoker

I want to be rangé next patch

[wicked pollen]

🐉

[sharp gale]

And have my prot free to be geared towards prot

[wicked pollen]

im never gearing another ranged character again

you will only see me on warrior dk outlaw or ret

[sharp gale]

Because you are a fury first, I’m a prot first, I don’t like fury that much, I’m just a raid buff tbh

It is fun, but being melee is a big downside for me

[wicked pollen]

idc what spec of warrior i play as long as it doesnt feel miserable

and both arms and fury are getting worse

esp when i feel that i do more damage on a less geared character like uh

[sharp gale]

At least I’m a blue team on silken, that’s a bonus

[wicked pollen]

rogue is undying

how do people die with 20% dr feint 40% evasion

health pot

claok

[jagged pier]

they dont press them

they dps not their job

heal them bro

[wicked pollen]

if you die on a rogue

you need to be hung

🐉

[sharp gale]

Yes basically we are different players, you seems to like melee dps in raid, I don’t, but I would like a range class who don’t have infinite m+ queue time (which has a healer or tank spec)

[smoky anvil]

Shaman.

[minor forge]

Skarmorak shard (639 myth) or mad queen (626) for mythic plus only?
Any thoughts on this

[sharp gale]

I just want to play prot on my warrior, and not tank in raid because tanking in raid you know….

[wicked pollen]

tanking in raid

[sharp gale]

Already did a season as tank in myth raid

[jagged pier]

shard

[wicked pollen]

jakey did you know that 🙂

[jagged pier]

yes

[wicked pollen]

how many outlaws have you seen this season

i swear ive seen 0

[jagged pier]

1 because theres 1 in my guild

[wicked pollen]

waht about in keys

[sharp gale]

I don’t like rsham that much, so it is between evoker or druid, will try both

[jagged pier]

i literally dont pay attention

to whatever is in a key im in

my brain is off

doing mists again literally looking at my second screen

[wicked pollen]

XD

you just walk forward

kill and get crest

🤖

[sharp gale]

I only saw 1 outlaw but it’s because my friend who push is with an outlaw, so I don’t even encounter it directly

Except when it was bugged ofc

[wicked pollen]

all i see is assa rogue in keys

[sharp gale]

But 1 outlaw is more than sub rogue I saw

[violet ginkgo]

I need a lot of crest again T_T

why the need for crest seems never end

[wicked pollen]

because you decide that it doesnt

if you quit game

it ends

[violet ginkgo]

tru... time to cancel sub once s1 end.

[fresh pilot]

HJello hello

professions for protection warror, what have you all gone with? i am black smith right now, just because it was a bit of a cashcow early on, seems to have died out and now i have 0 benefit of it, and profit is super low.

is alchemy/herba a bad choice? feels like im using so many consumes anyway i could make from that profession

[sharp gale]

Im alch because I’m a rat and herb for mist

[fresh pilot]

ok, so going alch might not be silly, since im using a fuckton of pots anyway?

[sharp gale]

If I didn’t care about 2 hours flask or pushed m+ I would be eng for cot

[tropic tangle]

was gonna say, with flasks staying pretty expensive currently the 2hr flask is a nice return if you're not burning it sitting in Dornogal

[fresh pilot]

cot?

[sharp gale]

City of threads

[fresh pilot]

Ah

ye dont care about that, think ill go alch then, since im just eating through 50-70k gold a week on consumes

[sharp gale]

Im alch lvl 25, 15 or 25 skills since the beginning lel

[fresh pilot]

What should my focus be for alchemy?

for specialization

[sharp gale]

Just 2 hours flask, you don’t need anything

You don’t need to move from Dornogal

[fresh pilot]

and whats required to get 2h flask?

[sharp gale]

Unlocks specs and have 15 or 25 points i don’t remember, you get those points by unlocking specs/ buy at the dude the 10 points things

[fresh pilot]

ah right better buy those

[fresh pilot]

Which one of the specializations give 2 hour flasks?

nvm

[round pendant]

can I make a macro that kicks my focus or mouseover or just my target

in one

so it'll do focus > mouseover > target

[unreal sage]

hey folks, is it enough haste for into the fray?

37%

[strong forum]

Yeah you're fine

[unreal sage]

gr8 thanks

[sharp gale]

Can try
/cast [@focus] [@mouseover] Spell

[bleak plume]

any tips for heroic queen to survive the tank combo? didnt do it yet

just pop a defensive and prayge?

[maiden plume]

Anyone knows why silkran weapon sim lower than haste versa crafted weapon?

[sharp gale]

Link the report

[maiden plume]

Considering I have ascencion on my weapon and I would go for 2 versa emblsh

Sec

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kKoub3zjLx78UwD8jV18sR

[mighty valley]

don't take both (obviously), spell block is great for liquefy, you need shield wall for feast, and maybe want to delay demo for it a bit depending on your healers

[bleak plume]

sounds good, thanks!

[strong forum]

This clearly says that 639 weapon Sims better

[sharp gale]

The link doesn’t show the weapon lower than crafted one

[tribal wharf]

might try out stalker 2 today.....

i got the original trilogy, and i tried really hard to get into it, only did like 2 or 3 missions, i raided 2 houses and then i went out into some field and the earth was exploding due to radioactivity or somethin. and there was wolf dogs or somethin and also patrol men or something.
i really want to give the series a good chance at some point what im trying to say, given how rabid players of it are

it seems like such a fun game, but every time i just cannot for the life of me do it,

[sharp gale]

Im just waiting monster Hunter so I just play what I already have in Steam library / chill survival games, it’s been a long time I didn’t play an RPG. (Stalker is an rpg ? Like metro right?)

[tribal wharf]

its like uhhhh, doom, but russia

[maiden plume]

I mean if I remove the shield it wont show

And I have radiant power on mh

Sec

[tribal wharf]

its like, mercany counterstrike in russia

and there is nuclear shit going on, the army, zombies, but for the most part you are just walking around talking to normal dudes, not stealing their stuff helping them on missions buy upgrade to gun

and one of the guys will be like, there is a usb and laptop we need you to retrieve from the farm to the east and you go there and if you have to you FPS call of duty kill them

[maiden plume]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qzZ7SrBBwksWoHgSzqEs9J

^

I did set emblsh into 60%, not sure if that's too low

Might be

[sharp gale]

I think I would play it only if I like the environment/design, gameplay doesn’t seem unique as most rpgs now, like I didn’t continue Red Dead 2 because i don’t like western that much

[tribal wharf]

it feels alot like fall out sort of

generic woods forest fog thing

[strong forum]

Cuz you're replacing an embellish with nothing, ofc that's a dps loss lol

[maiden plume]

I put another gear crafted with emblsh on it

Unless I linked wrong one

I set a belt with emblsh

Into that one

[strong forum]

No socket

Bruv

[sharp gale]

If you like depressing russian ambiance like metro etc, you should go for it

[maiden plume]

True

Setting a socket

[tribal wharf]

sometimes the depressing setting is oppressive to the point of turn it off

but it can be, just right

[sharp gale]

Well I’m into the nihilist/depressing vibe of Russian stories like metro, dostoviesky or others etc, it’s just personal I guess

[tribal wharf]

generally prefer a more middle of the road depressing/opressive/too fast (or slow!) game

something that make me want to continue it, and gives me enough bullets to do it

[maiden plume]

Yeap I didn't notice that I had no socket on it

[strong forum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dEArMX9aWYc2f6A4yaUazB

there

[maiden plume]

Sims

[strong forum]

thats what you should use

[maiden plume]

Thanks for poiting it out

[maiden plume]

Oh, even better

Ty

[strong forum]

(recraft your shit to haste/crit)

[maiden plume]

Ye I see it

[strong forum]

and use the crafted ring instead of that puny 619

[lofty warren]

Do you change talents for different m+ keys or is the 1 build good for all of them?

I'm building up prot paladin because it's higher on tier list and it has like 1x talent build for every dungeon

[violet ginkgo]

Farming 90 gilded seems so hard

[cyan bronze]

i like hr in sob cus of the haste debuff

[tulip oar]

Figured I'd share this with the rest of you.
https://youtube.com/shorts/nRwgDAWunh8?si=Mb3hXgD_hVnfl_Tk

I found it funny. But I was also...

https://tenor.com/view/drago-rocky-if-he-if-he-dies-he-dies-gif-10570702

[lofty warren]

Link code/picture of bis talents for each key pls

[brittle minnow]

Can someone tell me why my swarmlords 626 absorbs less dmg then my 606 one on my pala

[cyan bronze]

no

[lofty warren]

Idk what hr is I'm too dum

[cyan bronze]

heavy repercussions

[lofty warren]

But then I need to know what to drop

[cyan bronze]

what

[mighty valley]

hr is a choice node

with itf

[brittle minnow]

its 2,5 mio for my pala and 2,2 for my war with almost 19k haste

[cyan bronze]

vers?

[lofty warren]

What's itf

[cyan bronze]

gn

[crystal turret]

Into the fray

[strong forum]

uptrade from runed -> gilded

then just do 8+

[lofty warren]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/mountain-thane/DAPAVVBRFUgUVCWFBUBRNVVFEVBRFVZVUQCUUEFVVUCQQ
Into the fray is already illegal in sob per wowhead

[golden dagger]

What do people pop in that big hallway pull in the beginning of stone vault. Shield wall and shield block?

[strong forum]

SW avatar and LS

[golden dagger]

👍👍

[lofty warren]

Are the talents in on the m+ all different per dungeon or are some the same?

The m+ page*

[iron sphinx]

is there ever a time to stop prioritizing haste? xd

[lofty warren]

I guess I can do a code diff for each dungeon link but I'm too lazy

[strong forum]

theyre all the same

[sharp gale]

I think they are all the same, I wouldn’t know myself which dungeon would require a specific talent unless you push really high and need extreme niche stuff

[lofty warren]

I like that. 1 build to rule them all unlike ppal with a bunch of variation that I forget to change between keys

[tulip oar]

Only thing you might change is when doing keys lower than 12. Either adding aoe fear, or something to help out with affix.

I have seen some tiny variation on 2 charges of shield wall as well. Though I think it makes anger management less valuable.

Course that also means you've mapped and timed the whole dungeon.

[strong forum]

just play short shockwave

and you always have shit for affix

[tulip oar]

Yeah, surprisingly we have 1-2 points to actually play with, unlike Arms and Fury.

[jovial nest]

Hey, I have crafted a 636 shield. Now I have enough crests for an additional craft. Was thinking either to replace my 626 weapon or my 619 bracers. Any recommendation?

[cyan bronze]

weapon prob sim it tho

[tulip oar]

Do you do more than tank?

[jovial nest]

Not really. Simming says weapon gives more bang for buck, but at the same time the bracers are bis while the weapon is not?

[tulip oar]

If you had of said you do more than tank, I'd say bracers. Weapons can be easily picked up, while a 2nd embellishment is just a help for all specs. Example, I play all three. So I have a 2 hander, shield, neck, and bracers. Embellishment on shield, weapon and bracers.

[tardy abyss]

BiS only matters when you have every single item on the list, which is very unlikely

[sharp gale]

Do both

You will see only 1 myth track item per week if you don’t myth raid so any crest Strat based on the cap is : anything under cap-75 crests is free to use whatever you do with it

If you collect more than 75 crests per week, you can just use the rest to just craft or whatever

Based on you getting a myth track vault ofc

[craggy pilot]

anyone else having trouble getting into wow?

i been stuck on initialising for like 30 minutes

[jagged pier]

apprently ppl are yer

[sharp gale]

I had that 1 hour ago so I knew there was an update being pushed but seems it is an issue for many people

[jagged pier]

yer its a know issue

our whole raid team got in tho

[sweet summit]

just scan for update or whatever

[jaunty tiger]

can anyone answer some basic noob questions? Im just leveling a prot warrior so i dont know much about it

[blazing condor]

the guides usually answers everything better than we can

but whats the question?

[sharp gale]

my issue is not the same, i knew i just had to scan update, people can't dl the update, they are stuck on initializing

[jaunty tiger]

why do we spec into rend in the class tree?
every guide i saw doesn't say its used in basic rotation

[rain light]

because tc auto applies it

[jaunty tiger]

ty vm

[jovial nest]

Thanks for all the advice everyone

[jovial nest]

Could you elaborate on this philosophy? Currently I have 334 out of a season max 990

[sharp gale]

do you myth raid

[jovial nest]

Nope, mainly Mythic+

[sharp gale]

so you only get 1 myth track items per week, 1 item where you should spend gilded crests

you need 75 crests to upgrade it

the cap is so high now, you can upgrade EVERYTHING to 626 2 times

so basically if you start fresh now, and only do m+, you only need 75 crest for the next vault, the total rest you will NEVER be able to spend it on myth track items

the cap goes up by 90 every week, you can only spend 75 crests per week on myth tracks items

[jovial nest]

Ah that makes perfect sense, thanks a lot for explaining it so well

[sharp gale]

basically any form of waste spend of gilded crests will never be a true waste since you could never spend it totally

it's not true when cap is < of the amount needed to upgrade everything to max hero

it's something i do for my alt

since they don't myth raid, they have 5 636 items, they still have 400 crests to get

[jovial nest]

Amazing. I'll go crafting then with a clear conscience!

[sharp gale]

just maybe rethink when you actually are close of cap, and close to a reset (like to know which slot to craft)

[jovial nest]

I will, thanks again

[sharp gale]

i think it's 450 gilded crests to upgrade everything to 626 just if you are curious

it's a way to catch up ilvl faster if you play a lot

[jagged pier]

make it stop

[jovial nest]

Good information. When I do have you on the line, what is the philosophy regarding embellishments and multiple crafted items? I.E. what happens if I equip a third embellished item, or is that even possible?

[sharp gale]

and still i dont have gilded crest achievement

[jagged pier]

u need 639 all pieces for that

[sharp gale]

i know, i still dont have full 639s, i miss items to spend those crests

i need a ring, bracers and a neck

[jagged pier]

full spent on crests

and still have neck bracers a ring and a trinket to get full 639

[sharp gale]

i have 105 crests, basically i just wait the reclean to spend it

like i dont want to spend on that right now before reclean

[strong forum]

i need very rare cloak and random ring

then i can get the cheevo this week

wait no and a weapon

wait and bracers

yeah nvm i dont have enough crests for that

crafted gear blocking me from that

[sharp gale]

yes its crafted gear, i have 2 handed 639 so it counts it

my bracers pisses me off

they are still 619 but i dont want to spend 90 crests on them

[shut summit]

only need myth boots but cba buying boe, surely vault is nice next week

[jagged pier]

[narrow jay]

Do you guys enjoy Depths or Radiant power? I'm stuck on which one to use.

[lofty warren]

Sims available for 11.0.7?

I think there is a new ring or something

[strong forum]

do you know what the ring does?

[lofty warren]

No

[strong forum]

then how are we supposed to

[lofty warren]

I think higher ilvl tho

[strong forum]

its annulet 2.0

[lofty warren]

Ohh I thought it was available for simming

[strong forum]

for it to be available for simming its required to be public information

[lofty warren]

Aren't they releasing patch in like a few weeks

[strong forum]

we need to know what the ring does and how it works before it can be uploaded to simc 😄

[lofty warren]

Ptr not up I guess. But isn't it releasing to live on December 7?

[strong forum]

[lofty warren]

Google says it has been on ptr ?

I did get release date of Dec 7 wrong. It's actually dec 17

[sharp gale]

I just learned it’s the last reclear we do in my guild

Pls Blizzard give me ovinax’s ring I will go insane

[sharp gale]

The countdown is on battle net when you want to launch the game

[tulip remnant]

For Heroic?

[sharp gale]

in mythic

we will extend after this week

[tulip remnant]

Oh, instance lock hell begins

[pallid quiver]

it maek number go up, sim man, y u no know how number go up?

[sharp gale]

i did the math in my head

[wet atlas]

whats the addon for pre marker targets for interrupts etc in M+?

[sterile vessel]

someone offer me 400K

do i need it ? or sell it

i need advice

[lavish rivet]

No haste :/ = 400k

[hidden rock]

Gear is temporary, gold is forever!

[sterile vessel]

yeah i sold it haha it was emergency

[lavish rivet]

A 636 craft ring will be better than this. Just sell it for the 400k, use your new funds for a month of sub and craft a big boi 636 ring with Crit/haste

[sterile vessel]

sounds very good lol i will do it like this but maybe i craft vers/haste

[round pendant]

made 250k afk in 2 days

crazy how nonsense gets you fat stacks in this game but endgame content just drains the bank

[jagged gust]

Builder/spender economy

[round pendant]

wtf why does my action bar 4 change when I change spec but 5 and 6 don't?

how do I fix this

(I only want 1-3 to change)

[olive scaffold]

which should i craft main hand or ring, just want a bang for my buck craft

[round pendant]

ring is cheaper but mh gives damage

you should craft a shield

if you haven't

[jagged gust]

My default when action bars are screwy is to reset action paging

[round pendant]

yeah idk

I disabled paging ages ago

I just dunno why bars 5 and 6 are different

maybe I'll try bar 7 lmao

[heavy sparrow]

Did you find out

[left escarp]

Generally a WA.

[wet atlas]

I did. Went into Yoda stream and asked him, its a WA, not an addon like I thought. Ty for checking

[dapper jay]

Do we rather have shoulders from NW or make it a tier piece?

[quiet monolith]

I'm running the "immortal" build and still feel like I'm getting melted in 12s

Pug life

[pallid quiver]

Either literally no one is interrupting or you're making lots of mistakes in your general play

[odd nimbus]

the binding of binding ring doesnt work when your partner is not in the mplus group with you?

im so confused about this ring embolishment now

[chrome sapphire]

Immortal build?

[sharp gale]

You still have to do the rotation correctly and press def cd at the right time, do decent packs for your group and key needs to go well

whatever the immortal build is

[quiet monolith]

It's just the really defensive focused one on wowhead

I guess I need to start really passing out details

And find where the damage is coming from

[sharp gale]

Doesnt wowhead just has 1 standard m+ build ? Kinda need to relook it’s been a long time I didn’t look it

Each time I open wowhead on my phone I want to die

[pallid quiver]

The immortal build goes out of its way to grab BSV and the like to act as mega training wheels

so you can miss a defensive CD or two and be fine

As long as you are playing properly, you are extremely hard to kill

Unfortunately, it does not mean you're literally immortal

It's not on the base talent page since Nome doesn't really recommend it, but it is on the Season 1 overview page iirc

And it's selectable if you look at Wowhead's Prot War talent calc presets

[sharp gale]

Oh so it’s just taking bsv, maybe take second stamina talent in class tree I guess by dropping a spear talent

[pallid quiver]

It also opts to drop SC over Ravager, giving you bolster

so you have more uses of LS while still keeping your 100% SB uptime

You lose a stop, but the idea of the build is you're effectively like "lmao SC isn't a stop stoopid, why would i ever press this dmg button, me tank"

[sharp gale]

You made me discover a wowhead’s feature even tho I play since bfa and for a long time I have the wowhead addon

Oh yeah that’s a chonky build

As I said you could even drop piercing challenge to take the stamina if you really want to be max chonk boy, I would not but people do their stuff

But I usually consider my dps as tank as a part of my survivability, if the fight doesn’t last, stupid shit won’t happen

[golden dagger]

stonevault hallway pull is insane

is it my fault if dps are dying?

[grim pilot]

What are they dying from

[pallid quiver]

depends on what you could do and what they're dying to, but generally

[grim pilot]

How can u prevent it

[red dock]

Usually decurses

[pallid quiver]

It's a kill that pull before it goes bad kinda pull

You could do things like intervene for shields if a cast gets out, you might not be helping enough to stopping casts, might not be properly utilizing your defensives so healer has to tunnel you for your survival, etc

[golden dagger]

i have all taunt and using my interrupts as theyre available

maybe ill just not pull the whole room and play it safe lol

[grim pilot]

You kinda give 0 context

What key lvl what are they doing to how fast are they dying

[golden dagger]

10

[rain light]

doing it in 2 pulls is fine

[golden dagger]

you the man dalunk

or women

either or

ty

[craggy stirrup]

Anyone prog Ovinax on mythic for prot warrior have any advice for volatile concoction? our raid is thinking about bringing in a 3rd tank and have me just grab adds. I would also state that we really have not pulled him much, just sorting out weak auras.

[novel temple]

How good is reinforced wax plating?

[rain light]

sucks

[novel temple]

Rip

[bleak delta]

3 tanking has made that fight free for us, 1 BDK to handle Adds, the other 2 tanks manage boss, and assist with adds / interrupts, and just make sure we're topped for volatile concoction so the raid is always happy.

Fight still dies after 2nd break of 3rd phase eggs.

[charred coral]

What are the deciding factors between mountain thane and colossus for prot?

[tardy abyss]

Colossus for slightly more damage, thane for anything else

[violet ginkgo]

Which one you prefer Stjpa?

[orchid frigate]

those little robot dwarves in stonevault, what do they do to you and is kiting the only option if you do a pull with them in the mix?

[tardy abyss]

Haven't played colossus a lot because I almost never play keys <12

And even if, I don't know if I really have enough crit for it to be worth

[fresh pilot]

How to improve my logs, taking advice with loooove https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/tarren-mill/karanka?zone=39#metric=dps

[tired girder]

Team, the third boss of dawnbreaker for the tank buster we need to rotate CD or the SB and IP is enough?

[tardy abyss]

Rash has a tankbuster?

[tired girder]

Sorry... second boss. The spider

When have the knock back

[split bough]

does "Skarmorak Shard" works in raid adds?

especially in ovinax

[fresh pilot]

I usually use shout and SB on it, then it drops me around 25-30% on 11 keys. And of course with IP up.

[minor hinge]

Hi, guys.
New prot warrior here 👋 I always wanted to try the tank role, and finally, I found athetime to do it xD Since I am new do you have any recommendations for a general tank guide? And also for prot warrior later.

Thx

[sweet egret]

wowhead.com

[fresh pilot]

Check the Wow head guide explains all the basics quite well

[minor hinge]

Hmm ok. I already checked Wowhead it's so confusing. I will take another look.

[violet ginkgo]

always wowhead or icyvein up to you

[fresh pilot]

Fair enough, what is confusing? then we can try to elaborate.

[minor hinge]

There are too many links jumping around xD and you need to have knowledge about tanking to understand the prot warr guide I guess.

but i found this one now: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/tanking-2 i guess i will read this one first.

[fresh pilot]

Protection can be boiled down to, keep up shield block, keep up ignore pain, avoid capping rage, avoid bottoming out on rage. and use your outbursts on the right abilities.

and ofcourse use your cooldown on the right abilities.

[sweet summit]

IP isn't really a maintenance buff

[minor hinge]

simple xD hahah, but yea tnx i will take my time and study it a bit. If I will have any additional questions I will ask them here 🙂 Tnx all!

[sweet summit]

start logging your runs
it's a lot easier to help when we know what's going on

[minor hinge]

+1

[blazing condor]

+2

logs are your friend

[fresh pilot]

tbh i tend to just keep IP up, as it feels quite easy to stack up and does a good amount of absorb.

[tardy abyss]

Depends on key level, until 12 you can easily get away with using nothing, after that you should rotate for sure

[blazing condor]

its very easy to always have IP up

since you dump a lot of rage into it anyway

[prime jay]

sorry guys stupid question that probably many have already asked, should i go haste->vers or haste->crit as prios? because i see wowhead suggests haste-crit as a general rule, but top wclogs im watching (of november so recents) all kinda rush haste->vers with gear. maybe they are still stuck with old prios? tyvm

[sweet egret]

we never had prio vers

[prime jay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DVBaHpM3xJ2Gvt7j#fight=18&type=summary&source=428
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gyq82vk9hBDnFGWP#fight=2&type=summary&source=4
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9GpzW2wt8yahDKX6#fight=17&type=summary&source=600 (all over the place gear i have no clue here)

[sweet egret]

ilvl is the most important thing we gear for

[prime jay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/nemesis/kròlwarrior?zone=39
this is me, im gonna craft bracers next and then ring. should i then aim for haste-crist for those two pieces ? what you suggest :]

[fresh pilot]

Sooo.. how do you actually see the stats on log?

[tiny atlas]

Are there still some prot warriors doing high keys and streaming it/ uploading it on youtube? Seems like content creation atm is 110% prot pally, atleast when it comes to tanks.

[rain sedge]

If you check the stats page of the wowhead guide you see that vers and crit are very close and it comes mostly down to preference 🙂
Reliability go vers
Damage and parry luck go crit

[summer lake]

Guys
In this season you can get about 40% base haste without class tree buffs.
Is it worth stacking so much? Coz you sacrifice crit for that. So the actual ratio will be 40%/25%

In total will yield about 54% with haste flask and food and lube up

[tardy abyss]

Haste is always great

[sweet egret]

lube is always great too

[tardy abyss]

Yes

[summer lake]

I mean. You may actually loose dps investing in one single stat by the cost of others

[sweet egret]

yes

[tardy abyss]

If that's what you worry about then sim

But you can stack a lot of haste in order to play ITF properly

Which also scales off flat haste

[summer lake]

Aight, thanks

[tardy abyss]

Around 35-ish % (unbuffed) you can play ITF with no SB downtime, beyond that its up to you (or the sims) if you wanna get more

[lone wren]

is this decent defensive trinket?

[jagged pier]

No

[tawdry fjord]

is it just as hard for you guys getting invited into high keys as for me?
everybody prefer prot pala..

[jagged pier]

Follow the meta baby

[tawdry fjord]

i mean aff,, going from prot warrior where i feel im taking 0 damage, to prot pala where my hp bars DEFFO jumps alot more, not feeling great x)

[wild chasm]

A bit yes, what level keys you play?

[tawdry fjord]

Low, only now started to go into 12 and 13s

[wild chasm]

The 12s breakpoint is tough because everyone wants a person who has already done some keys of the level of the posted key

I personally almost never take someone for a 12 that has never timed it since most don’t expect the incoming damage and simply die

[tawdry fjord]

Hah yeah

True

[wild chasm]

As sad as it sounds I was mad for not getting invited as fury and barely getting invited as prot so I started pushing my own key and it helped a lot once I gained some rio and people see that I timed some higher keys

Sooooo push your key is the best option

Be picky about people and you have high chances to finish it in time

[tawdry fjord]

Yeah im doing that now.
Just, on the fence if i should give in and go pala.
The damage i pump on my 620 pala is insane

[wild chasm]

That depends on what gives you more fun or what your objective in the game is

I never liked alts myself and even if I did play them a little, warrior was always my main and go to. Nothing gave me more fun than smashing those executes

[lofty warren]

ppal more squish but does more damage

[wild chasm]

Fuck damage, you don’t hear that juicy Spell Reflect going off

[tawdry fjord]

Hehehe

My First goal is 3k Rio..not huge but big start for me
And warrior can get that haha

Should stick to my fun spell reflecting hero

[violet ginkgo]

Anima Slash coming
Other tank: Panic Defensive
Prot War: It's damage time!

[tardy abyss]

Any spec can go super high rio

[wild chasm]

Of course we can, but people are being ass and thinking they’re the shit so they only invite fotm specs

[wild chasm]

Lava Fist coming
Other tank: American wall
Prot war: European wall

[ebon geyser]

Link them sense io

[ebon geyser]

Fok that I will never do blessings to others or heal. If u die u die

[strong forum]

Part of why I dont even try to level a diff tank

I'm so used to not losing any hp that when I play a tank that regularly loses hp even when you do play well, that fucks me up

[tawdry fjord]

Haha ye and who doesnt like to leap out 0.5 sec before cast on ara kara boss

[strong forum]

Bro im so lost on that boss on my shaman

I hate it

Not having charge/leap

Similar deal on my evoker

[tawdry fjord]

haha i know right x)
might be possible to rescue someone out with evoker tho?
or verdant embrace last second?

"Heavy Repercussions should be swapped for Into The Fray once Shield Block up-time is no longer a issue;"
when is the break point for when its not longer an "issue"? ahha

haha*

[fresh pilot]

Anyone who has time to check my logs, and give me some pointers on how to improve them further?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/tarren-mill/karanka?zone=39

[strong forum]

18k+++++ haste

[tawdry fjord]

Roger that

[strong forum]

Verdant isn't fast enough, same for rescue

[tawdry fjord]

ah

i see

[strong forum]

But the blink from chrono warden is

[tawdry fjord]

just gonna stick to leaping my way out

Possible to sim what gems to go for?

[strong forum]

ya

[shrewd grove]

Link a specific log with a specific question. No one is going to click through a bunch of runs that say "This is from a leader board and doesn't have a log attached" to find the one Siege you logged, and then go through a 30 minute run to pick apart your entire rotation and CD usage.

[shrewd grove]

That said. The general problems are, as follows:

1. You're casting revenge too much. The rotation is:
   Cast Shield Slam
If you can't cast SS, cast Thunder Clap
If you can't cast SS OR TC, then you cast Revenge
If you're next SS or TC is going to cause you to overcap on rage, use IP first
Don't try to play around Revenge procs.

2. You're overcapping on rage too much. Use IP to prevent that.

3. Use your offensive CDs as often as possible. They should be amongst the first handful of spells you cast in a pull, and you should hit them ASAP when they come off CD.

If you have a more specific question, feel free. Otherwise, that's likely to be the best advice you're gonna get.

[ebon geyser]

I feel I'm crap at warrior and is disheartening

[cyan bronze]

Are you looking for solutions or to feel better

[ebon geyser]

Solution

I feel like I'm all over the place in buttons

[cyan bronze]

Post a log

Is the best way

[ebon geyser]

I'll try to get one

[cyan bronze]

But vaguely, hit shield slam, tc alor

[strong forum]

Sad to hear, given that you've been around for a while now carlwyn

[cyan bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-19354605

This is me playing prot @strong forum

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-16218831690385053791

This is me playing prot

[wooden widget]

^^colossus ❤️

[strong forum]

ya like i cant find a reason to play thane in raid or vault keys

[wooden widget]

Just played so much thane up until recently I’m liking colossus cuz it’s kinda diff. And ofc pressing demolish is such a good feeling

[cyan bronze]

Just make demolish an actual immune while you channel it

[wooden widget]

That would be so degen pls yes

[round pendant]

thunder blast is fun in and of itself imo

[strong forum]

meh

if it does less dmg than your average revenge

where is the fun?

as colossus you can send a 2.5mil revenge EVERY SINGLE GLOBAL

[round pendant]

because it goes boom

like tempest on shaman

[strong forum]

TB is nothing like tempest

[round pendant]

tho tempest is better

wdym

[strong forum]

tempest when it refunds 10 maelstrom

[round pendant]

they're aoe lightning attacks that go boom

[strong forum]

tempest actually hits like a real fucking hard truck

[round pendant]

yeah

[strong forum]

TB is like a pshff

[cyan bronze]

My tb’s actually hit harder than enh sham tempest tho

[strong forum]

thats

concerning

[cyan bronze]

It’s a setting u can turn on

[round pendant]

what

[cyan bronze]

It’s a setting u can turn on

[round pendant]

my tempests were hitting like 4m at 600ilvl

[cyan bronze]

Yeah my tb’s do like 20m a pop on st tho

[strong forum]

yeah if you change the K to M

youre right

[round pendant]

solution: replace TClap with TB and make Thunder Blast Blast proc

[cyan bronze]

i just turned on the git gud setting idk

[strong forum]

does your git gud setting show up on logs tho

[cyan bronze]

no it came with my schizophrenia download