its also off GCD
#protection
south zealot
you have a high uptime on it bc you have too much rage to spend if youre following your priority
strong forum
the primary purpose is reducing CDs, Heal, get more uses of IP, more outbursts
simple drum
the primary purpose is reducing CDs, Heal, get more uses of IP, more outbursts
Thank you for the real answer lol
long bronze
my answer wasn't real 
simple drum
There’s differences between the purpose/intent, and the outcome of said intent
sharp gale
i know something that proc outbursts really fast too, it is yours to take
simple drum
my answer wasn't real <:sadge:820202363359854633>
Nah your answer was good, I was just confused
long bronze
i know something that proc outbursts really fast too, *it is yours to take*
violent outburst doesn't do anything to execute who cares
sharp gale
violent outburst doesn't do anything to execute who cares
Violent outburst gives more rage for more Revenge, Execute no aoe
long bronze
bah that's what the braindead dps classes are for
brave jackal
how do I add warning for trash skills?
long bronze
chrome lance
Pin that shit for the people in the back. 😄
sharp gale
it may be a situation (+12 Mists)
ionic fern
Hello.
brave jackal
how do I add warning for trash skills?
assistance plz
strong forum
it may be a situation (+12 Mists)
wehjre dmg
lofty spruce
Hello!!
long bronze
meowdy
long bronze
assistance plz
you need to frame your question in such a way that we know what to actually answer
brave jackal
you need to frame your question in such a way that we know what to actually answ...
so for the mythic dungeon weakaura, that shows the boss skills countdown, I saw some people have similar timer or voice telling them of trash incoming skills as well
long bronze
depends on the weakaura pack, and in addition it depends on if you've installed the sharedmedia sounds it would be looking to play
if you look at the weakaura, and see the speaker icon...
something in that group is trying to play a sound, you can drill down, look at the actions or conditions for that weakaura and see if the sound file is populated in the field
if it isn't, and it's selected to play a sound, you're missing some sort of addon that has the audio files in it
brave jackal
I did install the sharedmedia sounds
long bronze
I'm personally not familiar with that weakaura pack, but I use Naowh's dungeon weakauras and shared media for my callouts
long bronze
it looks like this one? https://wago.io/twwdungeons
did you do:
brave jackal
I have this, I did the steps, but it only shows boss abilities, not trash
long bronze
4th place
good
lofty warren
Is that 1.2 million dps? That doesn't sound legal unless gb distorts dps numbers
strong forum
nah its regular dps
long bronze
can't even beat an emo e-girl smh
strong forum
im ashamed of any key i end up below 1.2mil
so this is good
ig city and siege it is allowed to be 1mil
long bronze
I'm proud of you dad
lofty warren
archon says max dps pray is allowed to do is less than 1 million
long bronze
now upload the log and see what it is after all the travel time is added into it 
strong forum
lofty warren
Archon says it uses 95th percent to get dps number so that means he is doing like 40% more dps then the top 95%
mighty valley
those data aggregator sites are gonna bring no joy to your life dude
strong forum
the dps jump between a 99 and a 100 is often times bigger than 90->99
lofty warren
Tell me the clever use of game mechanics to get #1 dps pls
long bronze
play with 3 priests and get cycled PI
lofty warren
Like the outlaw rogues had a clever use of game mechanics recently
south zealot
just hit your buttons
deft mortar
Play with 2 tanks and 3 healers and pull all trash packs to the boss
strong forum
thats not how you get big overalls
deft mortar
More % of your time spent would be cleave
strong forum
you get big overalls as 5 tanks, or a normal group that can do bigger pulls
nah agmius that aint how it works
cuz your key is gonna be SLOW AF
deft mortar
But during that slow period, you are doing 1.5M dps kekw
south zealot
trash will die
deft mortar
I bet the bosses would live long tho ye..
south zealot
stuck with boss for 4 minutes
long bronze
archon says max dps pray is allowed to do is less than 1 million
seems pretty on point to me
deft mortar
Need an arcane mage slave doing ST
sharp gale
the gap from 91 todays parse and 99 is 30% more dmg on sikran
lofty warren
I bet I can get massive dps if I go to a m0 with a full group. Is that the clever use? To beat up on low key lvl
deft mortar
I bet I can get massive dps if I go to a m0 with a full group. Is that the cleve...
Wouldn't rank on the logs
Or it might but it'd be silly
lofty warren
seems pretty on point to me
That says highest dps is 800k for gb not 1.3 mill
south zealot
damage parses in low keys doesnt matter bc nobody does them
deft mortar
you get big overalls as 5 tanks, or a normal group that can do bigger pulls
Yeye same idea tho
More time spent cleavin
long bronze
That says highest dps is 800k for gb not 1.3 mill
deft mortar
Bruh with the citations
long bronze
people don't want to read that's on them I guess
deft mortar
I am illiterate
lofty warren
I don't understand. Archon data matches what you sent yes. But I'm talking about the pwar doing 1.3 mill not 800k
deft mortar
And I ignore all reason
lofty warren
Wcl isn't just combat time?
lofty warren
Bruh that's so dumb in m+ you have running time
long bronze
what does it matter
its evenly applied to any log so you're only punished if you're having excessive downtime and that's a group problem
lofty warren
If you have 1.3 million combat time qhat does that translate to when it shows on wcl?
long bronze
depends on the dungeon usually
and if your healer had to stop to drink
or your dps had to afk because they needed to wash their naked mole rat
lofty warren
Look even here it is over 1 million and on wcl
long bronze
nom would need to answer what exactly that is a screenshot of because it isn't clear to me
lofty warren
Ohh I guess that is in the realm of possible if 95% = 800k and 100% = 1 mill
long bronze
WCL also sometimes filters out damage to certain mobs details doesn't
like the affix orbs I'm guessing WCL purges but details doesn't
similar to Rash adds
lofty warren
But that's still like 20% more than the 95th
Here I'm comparing wcl 95% to that 100%. 800k vs 1 mill
long bronze
all I can tell you is his highest public log in WCL for GB is 820k
what that screenshot is of, I have no idea, it has no identifying features really
lofty warren
Sir is this for the gb?
long bronze
nom is very very good, he's going to 99-100 parse basically everything he does
lofty warren
I asked him what the 1 mill is for
long bronze
but he's not going to do impossible numbers either
lofty warren
If the 1 mill is for the gb then he 20% above the top log on earth 🌎
strong forum
yes its gb
sharp gale
his highest public log
i send a screenshot of public logs of warrior grim it depends on which key lvl lol
long bronze
I know, I'm referring specifically to nom's public not general public
sharp gale
5 dudes public log 15s
long bronze
poor guy did 757 overall in a 15 and got a 0 parse
sharp gale
and yes bosses and prio targets last a very long time in high keys
long bronze
what's even more amusing in those logs
for the 10s
a 99 can be both 1m ds and 850k dps
sharp gale
you see 10s they do more dmg than in 15s
strong forum
mine was 11
lofty warren
What is max dps log for 11 gb
sharp gale
948k but remember almost no one take m+ logs / or put in in public
long bronze
noms now if he makes it public 
lofty warren
So that means he did about 15% more than highest log on earth 🌎
sharp gale
it's not like raid where you are 100% sure there is always a gov spy in the corner who is logging you
lofty warren
But iirc that don't mean all that much I was getting 100 m+ parses in shadowlands because sample size low
sharp gale
But iirc that don't mean all that much I was getting 100 m+ parses in shadowland...
no one cares about m+ parses, if you can do 100 parses in a 20 why are you not rank 1 in rio score
warcraftlogs doesn't even have a dps stats page on m+
lofty warren
Not gonna lie my super casual 621 pwar was doing like 600k in 10 ara-karak
sharp gale
there is not even an option to see damage parses in stats
lofty warren
If you go to archon you can see the tier list
just check archon. looks like ppal does like 200k more dps than all other tanks
sharp gale
we just showed you where they found the number at the right, dmg parses in m+ is not what matters, it's score
lofty warren
So why is ppal showing up a lot higher? Because they do more damage or some other reason?
sharp gale
because yes i can go on a +2 with my colossus build take everything and do 2m overall, that doesn't matter at all
lofty warren
Both are max key 17
strong forum
both max keys are 17
and prot pally does the most dmg
thats just fax
prot pally does the most dmg of tanks, by a landslide
sharp gale
but the more important is not dmg for tank
lofty warren
Is ppal super squish?
long bronze
lies and slander
sharp gale
why dh or monk is not above war ? because they didn't timed a 17 thats it
strong forum
ppal is not super squish
lofty warren
If ppal is same defensive and has more utilities and does more damage then it goes higher on tier list I would think
long bronze
this conversation is giving me brain rot
strong forum
to clarify
long bronze
all tanks are viable and decently close even
strong forum
if prot pally can survive the key, and their dmg is not abysmal, they will be the meta tank
that will always remain true in this day and age
and it so happens that prot pally now also does god tier dmg
urban portal
^
lofty warren
How are they defensively compared to pwar? I did some very low ppal stuff in 11.0 and felt like I was made out of paper
strong forum
its always been about tanky enough
urban portal
You bring the minimum tankiest tank that does the most damage or provides some broken utility
sharp gale
and best buff
strong forum
which does count towards utility
urban portal
Buff is a function of damage
long bronze
there are a whole lot a caveats there but basically yeah
strong forum
ye
urban portal
If ppal is pulling 200k more than brew
Who cares if brew is buffing your physicals by 5%
Ppal can click off ret aura and still be contributing more dps
long bronze
for most people being on a tankier tank is way better because it gives you more room to make mistakes and your healer doesn't need to be very familiar with you
lofty warren
How ppal defensively compared to pwar? Don't matter how much dps if you dead imo
urban portal
They are more vulnerable to white hits
And bad play can send you down to a death spiral
long bronze
but tier lists are not made for the common man, the people who make them are people pushing the highest level on content, that have an excellent group to play with that changes the calculus A LOT
strong forum
a pally needs to play alot better than a pwar does
urban portal
^
strong forum
cuz pwar is autopilot spec
sharp gale
Who cares if brew is buffing your physicals by 5%
it's more than 200k dps on a key a buff, brew is just not tanky enough because stagger is designed toward raid
strong forum
and SR is extremely good defensively this season
aswell as spellblock
there are very few things that hurt a pwar
urban portal
it's more than 200k dps on a key a buff, brew is just not tanky enough because s...
I’m just giving an example
strong forum
but that doesnt matter if your group cant survive
urban portal
Im saying that buffing your team is no different from doing more damage yourself
strong forum
^
lofty warren
When the first boss on daw beaker sends her beams out she hits me for like 90% hp if not using defensives
sharp gale
but that doesnt matter if your group cant survive
yes every phys dps are either doggo shit or can't live
long bronze
you don't parse as a team you parse as an individual 
long bronze
When the first boss on daw beaker sends her beams out she hits me for like 90% h...
this is why you use defensives when bosses use tank busters 
urban portal
Every other ap class has significant magic
sharp gale
It’s only warrior and hunter these days
yes and are they good ? hunter is doggo shit AND can't live
long bronze
rogue doesn't exist I guess
lofty warren
What is the correct defensive to stop the beam lady? Idk if it's magic damage or what
long bronze
all of them help
jagged gust
You dance between SW and SpB optimally
lofty warren
It's exactly when she sends her beams that she hits me hard and that's what I want to stop. Can it be spell reflected?
jagged gust
On higher keys you may want want to hold off a demo to line up as well, with SR being up for each cast
long bronze
ironically warrior doesn't have a purely physical damage defensive
urban portal
rogue doesn't exist I guess <:keks:936231610850897992>
Sin and sub are both half magic
urban portal
ironically warrior doesn't have a purely physical damage defensive
It’s called shield block
long bronze
that's not what I would consider a defensive
fallen spindle
it is?
urban portal
Prot warrior pressing nothing is tankier than most tanks with their rotational defensives on
fallen spindle
thats why warrs are so strong
lofty warren
If ppal does more damage than pwar the only question is how much less tanky is it
jagged gust
Your entire philosophy of prot war is mitigating spell damage because we passively reduce phys damage through our kit
pallid quiver
Im saying that buffing your team is no different from doing more damage yourself
I open Discord and it autoput me to see truth, so I reply, this
sharp gale
Your entire philosophy of prot war is mitigating spell damage because we passive...
there is a place phys dmg hurts a prot war
pallid quiver
Same thing also goes the otherway, too. Whatever gives the group the most damage, however you get it, is absolutely the best
sharp gale
nw first pull x)
long bronze
When the first boss on daw beaker sends her beams out she hits me for like 90% h...
if somebody says this, it's not because they aren't using shield block lol
its because they aren't using A DEFENSIVE
like DS, SW, SR, etc etc etc
DS* not DR
urban portal
I’m fairly sure no tank has a purely physical defensive
long bronze
fuckin hell I mean SW not SB I just fucked myself
urban portal
By your definition
lofty warren
If I use spell block then will that help against beam hit?
sharp gale
I’m fairly sure no tank has a purely physical defensive
i'm sure too i can't think of one yet
urban portal
Most cd based defensives mitigate both
pallid quiver
I’m fairly sure no tank has a purely physical defensive
I'm actually trying to sit there and think if there was ever a defensive CD that was listed as physical only in WoW; closest would be an older version of die by the sword iirc, since it used to only give the parry I feel like
lofty warren
I guess someone needs to know what kind of damage beam hit is
pallid quiver
And that's not even a tank defensive cd
long bronze
its magic
urban portal
It can be biased for physical but not completely physical
long bronze
SR helps yes
lofty warren
So you can spell reflect the beam tank hit onto her?
pallid quiver
If I use spell block then will that help against beam hit?
But yeah, you can spell block the beam burst. You can actually block two if you time the activation right
sharp gale
usually phys mitigation is in each classes "mini game" like stagger, bone shield, whatever dh needs to maintain, ironfur etc
sharp gale
do your basic rotation = give armor or block
long bronze
usually phys mitigation is in each classes "mini game" like stagger, bone shield...
blood shield too
sharp gale
blood shield too
yes i will not cite every thing
lofty warren
I have weak aura that tells me when something is coming that is spell reflectable but it doesn't show on the beam hit
long bronze
because its not literally reflectable
pallid quiver
Physical dr are almost always rotational
It should be mentioned this is by design, since it lets them tinker with magic damage (and bleeds, which are effectively magical phys damage) as the way to leverage tank damage intake that actually needs management
long bronze
but SR is also a magic damage reduction is it helps
pallid quiver
I have weak aura that tells me when something is coming that is spell reflectabl...
This is part of the reason I don't advocate SR weakauras, since it encourages people to not think of SR as a defensive with the 20% DR
lofty warren
Ohhh. That weak aura is broken and doesn't show big damage incoming that I should use spell reflect for. Anyone have one?
pallid quiver
You can just slam it any time there's a spell targetting you and get sinilar results
pallid quiver
Ohhh. That weak aura is broken and doesn't show big damage incoming that I shoul...
No, it's working as designed
It's meant to only show you want can be deflected/reflected, not what to mitigate
lofty warren
Yes I want one that shows all 3
pallid quiver
The WA for the big damage are boss addons and dungeon WA suites
sharp gale
the wa i think it's more designed around Spell reflectiong stuff for not dying (designed for dps)
lofty warren
Yea but those big suites don't specify if the incoming is magic or not?
sharp gale
what to reflect is simple
knowing if you are targeted by a bolt that will oneshots you as fury on a pack of 20 mobs good luck
tribal wharf
reflecting it is the hard part
just hit the button you sy
then it gets eaten by 50k bolt
example, do the rock men reflects in SV
pallid quiver
Yea but those big suites don't specify if the incoming is magic or not?
Almost every tank buster this season, and in DF as well, is magic or has a magic component
tribal wharf
you often reflect he 1-2m spells the dwarfs cast
pallid quiver
That, like I mentioned, is by design
lofty warren
Ain't Noone made a weak aura that shows what to reflect if it is a big spell damage that can be mitigated, a spell that is reflectable and targeting you?
pallid quiver
Anything they want you to interact with on a deeper level than automatically hitting your rotation has magic or a bleed attached to it as a tank
sharp gale
then it gets eaten by 50k bolt
50k bolts on you but oneshots a dps, that's why i think the wa is more for dps spec
pallid quiver
Ain't Noone made a weak aura that shows what to reflect if it is a big spell dam...
Like I said, that's what a oss addon like BigWigs/Littlewigs/DBM is for
Rock DBM and press it when it shouts "Defensive" at you
tribal wharf
SV rock boss, all dps are always supposed to take the damage amp clouds or wait exclusively for the shield
lofty warren
Can you link me profile/weak aura/whatever that does what I'm looking for pls? @pallid quiver
tribal wharf
we wiped to him somehow
lofty warren
Every big income damage is spell? That seems like too much?
pallid quiver
Not at home at the moment, but you'd just run your SR aura and grab the DBM addon of your preferred addon site
pallid quiver
Every big income damage is spell? That seems like too much?
There's literally like three tank hits in the game that are only physical right now
pallid quiver
Ansurek Feast, specifically the Exploits on Sikran, and the Piercing Strike on Council
lofty warren
Well it says big hit. I want it to say "big spell hit" or show that it is spell incoming on screen
pallid quiver
Every other one I can think of has some magic component
urban portal
Bruh just play the game
compact atlas
what talents are we M+ with. Colossus?
pallid quiver
And if you do toss SR on a physical hit, especially on a boss,
Oh well, it's back in 20s
urban portal
If the boss is casting something
lofty warren
Is the big hit from first boss nw a spell? He literally raises his axe and hits you on the face with it
urban portal
Press spell reflect
sharp gale
Sure no one will kick the cast you are trying to SR
lofty warren
Same with the fat guys om 3rd boss nw
urban portal
If it doesn’t sound physical then it’s magic
And like he said if you whiff one who cares
Up again in 20
lofty warren
Feel sad that there isn't wa that just shows it properly. I guess I'll have to guess if it's magic or not. Like is the green ball from last boss ara-karak magic or poison
buoyant lintel
Look at the dmg number with and without your defensive
urban portal
Feel sad that there isn't wa that just shows it properly. I guess I'll have to g...
Poison is magic
Everything no physical is magic
So everything that isn’t a sort of slice or a bleed
lofty warren
If everything is magic why are there different kinds of dispels?
urban portal
Because they are sub variations of magic
Everything is magic damage
But slashes and bleeds
Something like gut slice is physical
buoyant lintel
So slashes show up as a purple number or is that only magic
Do
On default floating combat text
urban portal
Idk I don’t use combat text
long bronze
If everything is magic why are there different kinds of dispels?
think of those are subtypes of magic based damage, they are magic, but also poison magic etc
lofty warren
If I have a magic dispels and then I get a non-bleed dot sometimes the magic dispels don't work
long bronze
blizzard isn't the best at consistancy when it comes to debuff classification
there are many magic damage debuffs that are not dispellable
savage assault from rash for example, does magic damage and you can't dispel it
urban portal
If I have a magic dispels and then I get a non-bleed dot sometimes the magic dis...
You are just confusing yourself
Magic damage doesn’t mean magic debuff
lofty warren
I remember I was on healing priest and I couldn't use my magic dispels on some dot. Then when I was on my evoking I could dispels the same dot but with a different dispel ability
urban portal
They made it this way so you actually have to play the game instead of dispelling dot
Magic damage can be a poison, curse, magic or whatever
lofty warren
Ohh so within magic there is pure magic, poison magic, shadow magic, etc
lofty warren
Spell reflect increase dr against the parent magic and all it's children
urban portal
Yes
lofty warren
Learning so much
Does spell reflect stack with other Dr's? Like if have sr + dwarf dr + shield wall then I will dr 100% of incoming damage?
mighty valley
Multiplicatively, not additively
lofty warren
So 20% dr × 20% dwarf dr = 400% dr
mighty valley
No…….
brittle owl
yes 
brittle owl
pepega has the perfect profile pic
mighty valley
Multiply the damage by 20% then multiply the remaining damage by 20%
mighty valley
Uh yeah
brittle owl
u guys mean well but heck man do you fumble
lofty warren
If one dr is 20% and another is 15% how does it choose which one is used first?
pallid quiver
^^^
mighty valley
on account of Maths
pallid quiver
I forget the name of the property; is that the transitive or another one?
lofty warren
Hold on I don't think that is true? Let me try
pallid quiver
I don't formal math enough
urban portal
We teaching arithmetics today boys
brittle owl
I forget the name of the property; is that the transitive or another one?
commutative
pallid quiver
We teaching arithmetics today boys
You're like a math major or something, right? How does this feel?
pallid quiver
commutative
me a dum dum
brittle owl
hello dum dum
urban portal
Feels like job security
lofty warren
Ohh he is right the order doesn't matter
But aren't there some defensives that are flat number
urban portal
Those are rare
pallid quiver
Flat reductions apply at a different point in damage calcs
urban portal
It’s on some trinkets
mighty valley
very few of them and they make people come here and ask about them every time
urban portal
They go at the end
strong forum
mighty valley
and the answer is pretty much always “bad”
strong forum
COLOSSUS GO BRRRR
pallid quiver
Only C-Tier tho
strong forum
yeah...
lofty warren
Why collass spec when everything says mountain thunder is bis
long bronze
cuz dam
strong forum
cuz thane is infinitely tankier
i got my ass ate this key
did not feel safe at all
long bronze
oh my
lofty warren
He is cos playing as ppal. Do big damage and be squish
long bronze
did not feel safe at all
so you got to RP as a ppal very nice
I'm not sure how I feel that pepega and I had the same thought at the same time
smoky anvil
1.4 is nice dam, sheeesh
lofty warren
does shield block do anything against magic?
lofty warren
So against first dawn breaker boss when she sends her beams then don't touch shield block unless doing spell block too
So complicated
frigid timber
Hee, I've been losing aggro lately on a big pulls like 10 mobs + or even on smaller ones sometime Rouge/Pala or DK take aggro form me. like one mob or smth. I am using heroic leap/charge and thunderclap ASAP and then demoshout an w8 for another thunder. It is getting harder when i have avatar on cd. Can someone explain me what I am doing wrong and how to improve it?
long bronze
Hee, I've been losing aggro lately on a big pulls like 10 mobs + or even on smal...
do you hit revenge? And where's your shield charge
lofty warren
Ok last thing - what happens if you have shield block and then you push it again?
strong forum
dont wait for thunderclap
long bronze
the duration goes up
strong forum
send a revenge in there
frigid timber
i send revenge
strong forum
then idk
i dont have threat issues
only when i try to do fancy shit and im not actually in the pack
mighty valley
Ok last thing - what happens if you have shield block and then you push it again...
duration stacks up to 3x standard duration
frigid timber
shield charge is a problem here (i sometimes forgot to do that) but even with revenge i cannot hold it thight like onee mob or so
lofty warren
If you use 2x shield blocks then does that mean you'll have it recharge twice as fast (since each charge is recharging at the same time)?
long bronze
Ok last thing - what happens if you have shield block and then you push it again...
to be clear, the duration goes up, you are not punished for stacking uses of SB charges
strong forum
If you use 2x shield blocks then does that mean you'll have it recharge twice as...
no
charge systems are always 1 at a time
its not like runes on DK
smoky anvil
only when i try to do fancy shit and im not actually in the pack
Facts. Fancy pulls with mobs that are pos and just wanna cast when you’ve no LOS or DK. Otherwise, dat shit mine.
lofty warren
I see. What is the legal maximum % uptime on shield block? Don't think it's 100%?
mighty valley
100% is possible with heavy repercussions
strong forum
100% is absolutely possible
long bronze
the goal is % blocked hits not % uptime, they are obviously related though
lofty warren
So as long as there is currency to spend on shield block I should use it because I can have full uptime
long bronze
that's a fair statement yes
lofty warren
Ohh I've been mixing ignore pains with Shield blocks
long bronze
unless you know you're not going to be tanking for a bit and would be effecively wasting that charge
frigid timber
only when i try to do fancy shit and im not actually in the pack
so bassicly i do the 4th pull on grim batol (4 mobs near drakes and i pull 2 adds extra on the way forward) I dont know if u understand. And on that pack i loose one or 2 mobs
long bronze
like at the end of a pack, dont refresh shield block unless you're about to be in the next pack instantly
lofty warren
If you are always taking damage then you should always spend your shield blocks. If both are cd then spend on ignore pain
mighty valley
just keep sb up all the time and use IP to prevent capping rage
mighty valley
this will result in you using plenty of IP
long bronze
just keep sb up all the time and use IP to prevent capping rage
this
lofty warren
I'll have to reread the wowhead to figure out shield wall vs ignore pain priority list
Sounds like ip much less useful than sw
frigid timber
mighty valley
they’re completely different
frigid timber
like so
long bronze
Sounds like ip much less useful than sw
you mean shield block right
lofty warren
Yea
frigid timber
but on that chain pull u do
mighty valley
IP is the only thing that’s off-gcd and always available to spend rage
so you press it a lot to spend all that rage you’re getting, and as a byproduct you reduce a lot of damage too
lofty warren
50% dr on ignore pain doesn't seem that bad. Not sure about it overcapping
long bronze
rage capping is worse than IP capping
lofty warren
overcappable
long bronze
you can basically pretend the IP cap doesn't exist
just press IP when you have >70 rage
and keep full uptime on SB
that's 99% of it
lofty warren
If you press ip and then rallying shout and then shaman give you 20% hp then is it on current hp or hp when ip was created?
frigid timber
just chain it all, and pull in the 2 far ones in late
i wrote u on private
mighty valley
i believe the ip value is just chosen based on your max health at time of cast
this is small beans stuff though
lofty warren
But you can increase you hp with last stand and rally cry and shaman gives you 20% so it sounds like a decent amount if IP is getting snapshotted?
mighty valley
yeah it helps a bit, we have a decent number of other effects based on max hp
long bronze
more stam does give you bigger IP yeah
lofty warren
But is it snapshot or current hp?
mighty valley
but in practice you’re never like, holding rage to wait for a bigger IP, rage income is too spiky for that
sweet summit
if you're doing content where that would matter the ip would evaporate instantly anyway
lofty warren
So if ur gonna raise your hp wait to push ip
long bronze
this is one reason why certain m+ talent's guides who tell you stam talents aren't useful are full of shit
mighty valley
no because you’ll almost certainly overcap rage in that time
long bronze
you just press IP when you have > 70 rage
no other conditions
keep it simple for yourself, determine nuance later
mighty valley
you will go so far if you boil down prot warrior to a couple simple rules rather than thinking through these minutae lol
lofty warren
I'm just thinking if I'm already going to raise hp and ip at the same time then try to raise hp first
Thx
mighty valley
yeah you’ll realistically end up pressing it before and after
keen leaf
is there a haste breakpoint where we can take into the fray over HR
sweet summit
is there a haste breakpoint where we can take into the fray over HR
35% before any itf stacks
keen leaf
thanks
sweet summit
you'll have some gaps but i'm managing like ~95% with it
long bronze
like in this stonevault I generated 21000 rage
ignore pain is 35 rage
you press it A LOT
why some people suggest putting that shit on your mouse wheel
keen leaf
I have a weakaura that turns my rage bar yellow when it htis 70 rage, when it turns yellow I press IP.. warrior requires a simple mind 😄
long bronze
mine glows
keen leaf
sometimes I get lost in thought and spam it, but it happens 🤷♂️
long bronze
good news, youll be at cap again in 1 second
keen leaf
yeah lol
keen leaf
r u colosus?
long bronze
thats the funnier part nope
keen leaf
damn how are u finding time for those reveneges, lol
mighty valley
it’s never too much revenge (unless you’re pressing it when ss or tc are available)
keen leaf
thats the point, I dont have time to revenge hardly lol
long bronze
it’s never too much revenge (unless you’re pressing it when ss or tc are availab...
certainly am, I'm a bit for certain
strong forum
i had 288 revenge, 36 demolish and 339 SS in the GB i just did
keen leaf
I understand more if ur collosus
long bronze
but brain does as brain wishes sometimes
I'd probably benefit from switching my revenge and SS keybind
trick my pesky brain you see
but now that I've typed it out, it'll know
always watching....
jagged gust
I once moved SS from 3 to 1 and my brain suddenly could not compute
keen leaf
this is the most warrrior conversation ive ever witnessed
long bronze
ironically my SS is 1 my revenge is 3
jagged gust
I believe that makes us rivals
jagged gust
ironically my SS is 1 my revenge is 3
long bronze
or maybe here me out
I'm just being an idiot by NOT being colossus
is brain telling me what it desires?
hmmmm
jagged gust
1 more keybind? I dunno fam
jagged gust
wicked pollen
i was setting up keybinds to play uh
jagged gust
I'm up to 38 keybinds 
keen leaf
I have a foot pedal, thats how many keybinds BDK has
wicked pollen
it was legit 40 binds
jagged gust
brother I always wanted to keybind to a foot pedal, shits metal asf
long bronze
doing the nuclear missile launch sequence opener (blood deathbringer) with the optimal 5% haste is so fucking ass. I'm glad haste isn't a pariah stat anymore and san'layn is actually viable
keen leaf
I play sanlyn now, I love it
wicked pollen
i use 1-5 f g v x e q 2 mouse buttons shift ctrl
keen leaf
blood beast go BRRRR
jagged gust
My cotank is complaining about the swap to sanlayn, brother can't handle anything above 5%
long bronze
I played with regular mouse for 13 years. I decided to try UDK out as a main in DF, I caved and got an mmo mouse for the first time
shits full on my dk, other classes/specs I have two binds on it
long bronze
san'layn full haste still 15 less APM than prot warrior
the annoying think about bdk vs other tanks is setting up equivalent binds
SB on war = ??? on bdk
etc etc
cosmic canyon
Personally sb, one could just bind it in a macro to pretty much all keys and still be able to tank pretty well.
crude pumice
anyone tried this? https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1g5j52c/double_dipping_gilded_crests_a_cheeky_way_to_pump/ and got free upgrades on shield?
cosmic canyon
Since it stacks if recast before it runs out. And if you have enough haste and/or hr
coral verge
Currently sitting at 10K haste/vers and 7K crit (+ w/e mastery) and about to craft neck 636. Torn between haste/vers and haste/crit.
Curr neck is 2k haste/mastery
OVerall ilvl 611
What is the general suggestion for stat prio on crafts as warrior? 🙂
arctic citrus
Wep>shield>boots>waist
cosmic canyon
If it worked the same with shield wall, it would offer more value
arctic citrus
or you are lucky and get waist from 1st raid boss
coral verge
I have hero track on shield/weap already but neck is 590 so am gonna craft it :p
arctic citrus
good neck drops from city of threads
the only competitor for that neck is resto shammy
crystal mauve
Currently sitting at 10K haste/vers and 7K crit (+ w/e mastery) and about to cra...
Haste\crit
arctic citrus
Currently sitting at 10K haste/vers and 7K crit (+ w/e mastery) and about to cra...
go for 17k haste and you will see magic
long bronze
anyone tried this? https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1g5j52c/doub...
yes this works
crude pumice
yes this works
ayt bet thanks alot u tried on wep also. just coming back
long bronze
the only caveat I've found is it doesn't work if you craft it yourself (on that toon)
the item needs to leave your bags and come back
which wont happen with personal crafts
thorn basalt
Does the BRD raid pollute the raid vault slots? I don't want to get brd loot on reset 
jagged pier
yes
jagged gust
get that mythic gearbox POG
cedar dew
is this any good?
worn sand
hey im new to prot and im starting to get into 14's rn. Just wondering what my statweights should be? Im about 12k crit, 21k haste, 8k mast, 4k vers? is my vcers too low?
jagged pier
is this any good?
nope
long bronze
hey im new to prot and im starting to get into 14's rn. Just wondering what my s...
just do what the sim tells you to do, haste is your best defensive stat until an absurdly high amount of it
so sim may say, replace haste with crit, because it's more damage, then it's up to you to decide if you want to do that or keep the haste for the gameplay feel and defensive value
most of the time though you're not going to see any appreciable difference between stats, they are all good, haste is just generally better
deft mortar
hey im new to prot and im starting to get into 14's rn. Just wondering what my s...
Why is your leech subpar
fair silo
How can i find the route used in 13+ ?
I'm having trouble to understand which pack i'm supposed to pull at the beginning of mists
Those are my current pull but my team just die on pull 1, and pull 2 isn't better either
edgy bone
Boys
How do you avoid all the BS around the minibosses in Arakara?
The little green exploders
Can I walk away from the minibosses or will my party get meleed?
I swear I see more deaths around minibosses than I do anywhere else
orchid sky
Fellow warrior friends i have a question im looking for a rasy tank to push m+ thinking about warrior and bear ( I currently play blood dk atm)
jagged gust
Either coordinate knockbacks to get them out as they're about to pop or pull with the intention of not pulling them in to the miniboss
orchid sky
I need ur opinion about which tank is better to push
Either warr and bear are simple but I don’t see many bears doing higher keys wondering what’s the reason
tribal wharf
the best tank is the tank that you or the active tanks are best at and are best for the content
jagged gust
Either or, there's currently no limitation between the two
tribal wharf
me, im half way between protesting keys and not
once i get the mount im outta her elol
orchid sky
the best tank is the tank that you or the active tanks are best at and are best ...
I have 2700 on my blood but it’s hard for me to get into even higher pug groups cuz they take Prot warr or bear or paladin even with lower gear
tribal wharf
i hate the timer in keys, its gunna drive me crazy so i refuse beyond whats nessecary
rogue dc for 4 minutes
in a timed event
timed at 31 minutes flat
comes back sorry
i cant do it any more
orchid sky
So I need ur advice which is better to push
worn sand
Why is your leech subpar
whats my leech supposed to be at?
bleak breach
the best tank is the tank that you or the active tanks are best at and are best ...
Wrong answer
bleak breach
How do you avoid all the BS around the minibosses in Arakara?
Hold shockwave for explosion possible
bleak breach
I have 2700 on my blood but it’s hard for me to get into even higher pug groups ...
Play Prot war
round pendant
Man
Hero track gear feels absolutely fucking useless
Why does champion overlap with 4/6 hero levels
it's so dumb
wild chasm
I’m not sure why they did only 6 on hero and myth (between those 2 it works okay) but difference between veteran and champion, where champ overlaps at 4/8 veteran is okay. So it’s only due to that switch from 8 to 6 that it feels “bad”
orchid sky
Play Prot war
Could u pls explain the differences why Prot warr has always a spot in m+ instead of a bear?
bleak breach
Could u pls explain the differences why Prot warr has always a spot in m+ instea...
They’re just performing well atm and easy to heal
round pendant
I’m not sure why they did only 6 on hero and myth (between those 2 it works okay...
Champion should be nerfed next season imo
6/6 for the last 3 tracks
bleak breach
Druid is always solid because of their buff
wild chasm
Could u pls explain the differences why Prot warr has always a spot in m+ instea...
I guess more CD’s available, with spell reflect on a really low cooldown. Due to thane were even more tanky naturally. Shield block has been and is the best mitigation to physical damage and thanks to spell block we’re doing good against magic damage as well. Warrior was usually the smoothest to heal and easiest, unlike something like blood dk getting spikes of damage
tropic tangle
what's the total spark count at this point? like 5.5 or something?
marble night
so i was doing the 1st miniboss in DB, the church one. he did his tank smash terrifying slam. that showed up under avoidable dmg though?
south zealot
hey im new to prot and im starting to get into 14's rn. Just wondering what my s...
that’s fine
deft mortar
Yo who did I have beef with in this discord
deft mortar
let's goooo
quartz raven
need 1 dps and 1 prot warrior for a 4 warrior sv 10 right this moment
bleak breach
We can if you like
steel portal
guys, any way to macro shield block? with something else,
I've tried Ignore Pain and Shield Block, but it just doesn't seem optimal
jagged gust
not really
merry sluice
Yo 2 min gift of the naaru kinda sounds nice
mighty valley
guys, any way to macro shield block? with something else,
I've tried Ignore Pai...
No, you want control over the buttons that spend rage
toxic pewter
Vulpera racial buffed nice
80% slow someone I wonder if that will work in PvP. I do a lot of PvP
frigid timber
is this the right place to post a sim discussion for vault selection?
deft mortar
Pulled 1.25M dps in NW 4 kekw
mighty valley
is this the right place to post a sim discussion for vault selection?
For prot? Sure
frigid timber
I got the Oppressive Orator's Larynx, High Nerubian Signet (vers/mas) and Axe of the Deadgrove (vers/haste) wep all on Myth track. I feel like they're all useless and I should just take the socket
but I want to make sure I'm not missing somethign w/ the myth wep; my crafted 636 seems just as good, so all I need to do is craft a ring
jovial saffron
finally timed cot12, 2 deaths only and 53secs left, feels wrong lol
jagged gust
you'd have 3 embellishes with the ring+weapon/boots
frigid timber
naw I have copies of the ring in there w/ and w/o the embellishment
jagged gust
ah my b, I must be tired lol
since you're running ascendance, did you sim the writhing armor band?
frigid timber
naw; I know Dorki runs ascendance wep and duskthread on shield
jagged gust
may i ask why?
frigid timber
tbh I've never even seen anyone write about it in any prot gearing guides or vods
also I only do M+ just for context
jagged gust
Nomer covers it pretty well on wowhead
Plenty of sources in here for info
But tldr ascendance has an issue with reduced performance in m+, due to things like forced downtime from either RP, wipes, waiting on rezzes, performing skips etc., it's more suited to longer battles like you'd see in raids.
But if you do have decent uptime on it, it's often worth more to have it's effect doubled than to use another embellish.
That being said ilvl is ilvl, and on your weapon it's about the best place to get it for more DPS. ST there's often an argument to be made, but you're going to see bigger gains from weapon ilvl in aoe due to the damage scaling
That's why you see the 639 weapon winning in dslice whereas in ST the crafted weapon embellish does well https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uocU2WVtCwscbNnBQ3JpFT
jagged gust
Did you just pull the entire first room on the boss? lol
livid dawn
For ya'll warriors who are doing +12-15 keys, are you still getting invited to keys or have paladins completely taken your jobs?
inner wren
what's a good talent manager addon
jagged gust
default ui tbh
inner wren
need more
inner oracle
For ya'll warriors who are doing +12-15 keys, are you still getting invited to k...
We are all meta slaves, we deleted our war and all play pal
wide pilot
has anyone timed a key and it the panda to swap key not pop up?
timed an 11 nw and the panda didnt pop up to swap mine out
brave jackal
timed an 11 nw and the panda didnt pop up to swap mine out
Have you mistreated her before? Careful Pandas are quite sensitive, she might be mad at you
wide pilot
getting tired of this bug ridden game
mortal pecan
Do prot warriors need more healing than other self healing tanks? Or should we be able to just mitigate enough to self sustain
mighty valley
we should not need a lot more healing attention, no
boreal mountain
For ya'll warriors who are doing +12-15 keys, are you still getting invited to k...
ive had paladins and enh shamans take over my shit completely
boreal mountain
getting tired of this bug ridden game
you mean you dont enjoy getting dced every 2 mins and 20 sec lag timers????
you dont like getting blizzconnected??
time to revert warrior buff and nerf it another 5 times just for good measure
deep steppe
wooden widget
None of them are good enough at heroic track to beat something mythic.
Can always sim tho
Like I think flame trident is a decent offhand for fury? I’ve not seen anything prot specific tho
nimble laurel
Is "No Stranger Pain" talent in Colossus tree increasing ignore pain's absorb amount cap by 20% or increasing the amount of incoming damage that is mitigated by ignore pain by 20%?
mighty valley
the amount per cast i believe
nimble laurel
ah, a 3rd option
simple void
Are most tank busters survivable with just shield block + spell block? Or would you need more?
Thinking about keys around +10
2nd question, could anyone help me on how to rotate my defensives? I'm still relatively new to The War Within so my knowledge is very limited.
inner wren
2nd question, could anyone help me on how to rotate my defensives? I'm still rel...
Not much to rotate
Shield wall > spell reflect and spell block if applicable > shield wall
Avatar demo etc are pretty much sent on cd
simple void
Do you prio to use the longest cd first?
Is last stand more of a 'oh shit'-button rather then a defensive you wanna rotate?
lilac sedge
I don't know your story but i like what i see
quartz meteor
last stand i usually use when i don't have other defensives, because it is not as strong. when you have BSV proc it is a lay on hand though
lilac sedge
guys whats a class thats similar to prot warrior but with more self heals
quartz meteor
probably bear
lilac sedge
but i hate not being able to see my armor :( it feels bad seeing a bear forever
quartz meteor
you can turn into other forms when not tanking lol
brave jackal
but i hate not being able to see my armor :( it feels bad seeing a bear forever
It’s like you have an answer in mind, and wanting someone to give that exact answer, so you’re not really asking for opinions..
lilac sedge
It’s like you have an answer in mind, and wanting someone to give that exact ans...
my answer was disc priest but its not a tank
thats why i had to ask
quartz meteor
how were you finding disc similar to pwar
lilac sedge
shields, health defensives, aoe fear
but i think what i like mostly about warriors that it's rage based
no mana bs or anything
im having trouble self healing sometimes, but i assume i need to focus on stacking ignore pain mostly
with my SB up 24/7
quartz meteor
bear has all those except shield. but can CHARGE
lilac sedge
druid has rage?
quartz meteor
well yeah...
unkempt hazel
bears use rage silly
brave jackal
My bear is geared around 623ilvl, but haven’t been playing him for few weeks, so was focusing on prot war, after reset I tried doing a quick +10 grim Batol, and damn, I felt much tankier without having to press much things.. made me think I was doing something wrong with my warrior, coz warrior is definitely stronger
unkempt hazel
sweet summit
bearbear
unkempt hazel
think its fine rn?
dark pier
Does someone have advice for me. i do a lot of M+ and i have Foul Behemoth's Chelicera but i wanna know how it is compair to the Molten Furnace from BRD Both on hero track
brave jackal
is bear good?
Very good, but it’s not for everyone, some people find him boring.. I like changing forms and shit
And the insta form change to fly form or travel form when needed is also fun for me
jagged gust
Several people I know who have ran bear has told me "I miss playing xyz"
brave jackal
Several people I know who have ran bear has told me "I miss playing xyz"
I mained bear before, so for me, when I’m away from bear for a while, I miss bear
pearl sluice
can someone explain to me why every prot warrior i have gets fisted by this add
every siege key my tanks get molested by this add is it that op or are they doing something wrong
tribal wharf
does the magic pistol shot from first boss still hurt like a son of a bitch
i seem to recall in BFA it did a ton of dmg
lofty warren
How good dragon spec for pwar?
tribal wharf
i have no interest to becom a trogdor any time soon
tribal wharf
dawn turtle
Is there any way we can cleanse the current m+ affix ?
tribal wharf
besides DR yourself, maybe rally, maybe possibly storm shield
even those really dont do crap for the affix
dawn turtle
DR?
dawn turtle
ah I see ty
tribal wharf
typically, it refers to something that gives ALOT of damage reduction
like shieldwall is perfect example, because it diverts so much damage
proper flicker
how big a difference will a 636 ilvl crafted shield make for tanking +10s and above in terms of survivability? I currently have a 619 shield that I can upgrade to 626 but wondering if its best to just craft the shield?
I'm a fury main but I'm planning to tank just so I can pug m+ quickly w/o waiting around
jagged pier
not likely
lilac sedge
Jakey is my true love
cosmic canyon
constant uptime on this tho, no?
kindred hearth
Could someone explain spellblock to me, i always felt like its only good against casts but does it also Block other abilitys
jagged pier
Could someone explain spellblock to me, i always felt like its only good against...
its blocks spells and magic abilities (if is coded to block) like u can block melee and ranged blockable attacks and abilities
kindred hearth
There is a spreadsheet right
jagged pier
yep
lilac sedge
i wish i could spread the sheets
kindred hearth
Because i am tanking 12s/13s now, feels like i should know that kinda stuff
jagged pier
u should yep
clever orbit
Is there any written out guides for higher end M+ pushing?
dawn turtle
So spell block has nothing to do with spell reflection but rather shield block?
lilac sedge
i cant give a person a wow token that i bought with gold from the ah?
since it's soulbound?
nor can i re-sell it?
dawn turtle
I think you needed to trade them the gold and then they buy it
lilac sedge
fuck
trim hamlet
Anybody have an idea on the name of the Weakaura that announces a party member's death and the reason?
lilac sedge
i just bought 3x on my account thinkin i could give it them
do i turn into balance and gift them gametime basically?
dawn turtle
ye I think that makes the most sense
cosmic canyon
i just bought 3x on my account thinkin i could give it them
should be able to cancel/refund no?
hardy snow
should be able to cancel/refund no?
you cant refund bought with gold
cosmic canyon
aah, I thought he bought with bling. I should've read better.
inner oracle
Is there any way we can cleanse the current m+ affix ?
Yes, with Bitter Immunity or dwarf racial or Last stand + Impend Victory
dawn turtle
Oh cool, how does last stand + inpend victory work? I just see them giving hp? or does that somehow cleanse it
blazing condor
Could someone explain spellblock to me, i always felt like its only good against...
it just gives you the ability to block spells so you also need normal shield block up to 100% block the spells
inner oracle
Oh cool, how does last stand + inpend victory work? I just see them giving hp? o...
Affix is a heal debuff so you either cleanse it or heal it. Both skills heal you.
Can even use heal pot for that matter, but all these are kind of last resort anyway 😁
dawn turtle
Ah cheers ty ill prob lasd stand + impend victory so I dont have to retalnet into bitter immunity
inner oracle
Won’t be available for every affix tho 😉
regal yarrow
You can't actually use a heal pot for it or a health stone
clear rune
Guys, the 4th raid boss, is it usual that you get up to 10 stacks of the poison when moving to the 3rd location?1
strong forum
Anybody have an idea on the name of the Weakaura that announces a party member's...
That's a Details feature, can just enable that
strong forum
Guys, the 4th raid boss, is it usual that you get up to 10 stacks of the poison ...
Yes
knotty light
spell block doesn't block poison ticks right?
solid cargo
It blocks the majority of non-bleed periodic damage iirc
jagged pier
depends if its coded too for that ability
knotty light
the spreadsheet says Black Edge in Dawnbreaker can be reflected. I tested and it doesn't. now i cant trust it
grave flower
I know there is a spreadsheet but is there any WA that will “show” the spells that are blockable and refelctable when you load into the dungeon. I know im asking for something specific and I can import to method raid tools for myself each time but if the work is done then I don’t want to reinvent the wheel
deft mortar
Y'all just gotta trial and error the reflects and keep it in ya head
grave flower
You’re overestimated my ability to remember things
deft mortar
Zug zug to that brother
grave flower
I walk out of the house without my car keys
blazing condor
the spreadsheet says Black Edge in Dawnbreaker can be reflected. I tested and it...
if thats the case then tell sense with a log provided of it not working
so the resource can become better for all pwarrs
novel comet
how big a difference will a 636 ilvl crafted shield make for tanking +10s and ab...
I noticed a HUGE difference going from the 619 to 636
solid cargo
I've tried to find a formula that shows just how much an ilvl increase to your shield works but I can't
Does that resource exist? I'm just curious
novel comet
My healer says they definitely noticed — I also went from 619 crafted sword to the 626 bis sword. Two large upgrades.
tawny current
weapon always matters
median kayak
whatt flask are u guys using in m+ ? haste? chaos ?
surreal sandal
Hey, is it correct that if I have shield block constantly up and press spell block, that the spell blocking lasts for 30s? And does it block all magic damage in that timeframe? Sounds way too powerful
surreal sandal
Ok, but still for the 30s duration if you have at least 100% block?
jagged pier
well u need shield block up with it
and u need to face where the spell is coming from
surreal sandal
Ok, thx a lot.
knotty light
got a rotation question:
on single target, when i'm rage capped or will overcap rage if i SS/TC, ignore pain shield is 100%,
what do i do? just ignore pain anyways?
shield block is up and on cd
brittle owl
u IP anyways
can i ignore emotional pain?
jagged pier
no
brittle owl
fast oracle
love bricking a key beacuse the adderall addicted DPS can't wait half a second between pulls but also don't do boss mechanics and wipe constantly
blazing condor
can i ignore emotional pain?
the trick is heavy substance abuse
jagged pier
smoky anvil
love bricking a key beacuse the adderall addicted DPS can't wait half a second b...
You stand in the webs on ara kara 1st right? Haste buff.
fast oracle
killing skarmorak shards is a net DPS loss
so just ignore them
but also why did you only pull three packs tank is ass
grave flower
You stand in the webs on ara kara 1st right? Haste buff.
No you point the frontal into the group in NW first boss for dmg buffs. I swapped from BDK to Pwar and these low keys are a nightmare with some of these dps. 12s are far easier than 7s rn for me and it has nothing to do with my gear being shit
fast oracle
if they were just degen meter addicts who are bad at mechanics, I could live
but don't tell me how to route and pull
and don't pull for me
grave flower
Have people standing on me with shadow orb first boss cot for some reason.
regal yarrow
They're probably doing it right. It's a much easier fight for us if the person with the stun is like 2 yards away
steep violet
Does anyone use Causese's WA dungeon pack w/ the sounds. When i started learning tanking for the first time on prot warrior recently there's now a bite sound that plays and i'm not too sure what it is meant to be warning me of.
wild anvil
What's actual CD on shield wall? Like a min? Give or take
grave flower
They're probably doing it right. It's a much easier fight for us if the person w...
Fine, but how about 0 yards away
regal yarrow
Just step forwards
fast oracle
depends on talents
grave flower
I’m trying to paint the picture that it happens at the end when it goes off. Like little suicide bombers
wild anvil
must faster in reality
Yeah I know, like perfect world what's the lowest it could be
grave flower
Im not actually looking for an answer to the problem of bad dps play, im contributing to the anecdotes.
fast oracle
Yeah I know, like perfect world what's the **lowest** it could be
how much rage can you build and how quickly can you dump it?
regal yarrow
I had one in my last key that was 50 seconds. Found another in my log of 43 seconds, and another on the first pull of a necrotic wake at 37
lofty warren
my razer mouse is dying and i see the new ones have new programmable buttons. anyone try to use numbers 6 and 7? are they buttons on the click/right click or do you need to move the scroll left/rifht?
swift veldt
Is grim batol much harder then any other keys? I do not have troubles on literally anything else and batol feels like every fckin single mob have 2 tank busters xD
regal yarrow
The only worry is rive and the enforcers sometimes
But like even rive isn't enough to stop us from doing a massive pull
hoary pivot
Is grim batol much harder then any other keys? I do not have troubles on literal...
its jut the frontal mobs that you need to SR / SB / Defensive and the Enforcers that you need to stun or soothe
charred ivy
my razer mouse is dying and i see the new ones have new programmable buttons. an...
I use a Logitech one. But just push wheel to side :). I have keybind on both very nice xD
strong forum
Does anyone use Causese's WA dungeon pack w/ the sounds. When i started learning...
Whenever a cast is targeting you iirc
strong forum
guys remember its NNN
No, it's movember.
remote tusk
Double or nothing.
steep violet
Whenever a cast is targeting you iirc
like a major cast? it doesn't do it outside of boss fights. I noticed it last night when i tanked throngus in grim.
strong forum
Uuuuhhh
Dunno, cuz i have a soundpack that plays anytime I myself am targeted by any cast
wild anvil
How should I be cycling defensive for bosses that have alot of tank busters like first boss of dawnbreaker, Edna, etc etc. I seem to be struggling with those a bit
regal yarrow
What level are you talking about dLux? Send a log maybe?
strong forum
Depending on encounter length you wanna start with SW as it has an incredibly short cooldown
wild anvil
I'm at around 7s rn, while they don't 1 shot me, they get close I can only imagine higher keys can fuck me up
smoky anvil
and don't pull for me
This is facts. I’m probably just thin skinned but being told where to go and having people pull for me in lower keys where I’m already zooming makes the demon voice whisper, “brick it”
strong forum
On some bosses however it can line up better with multiple overlaps to use spellblock first
regal yarrow
Well in 7s your healers are going to be awful too typically. But the final boss of dawnbreaker being a struggle seems really weird
oh you said first nevermind
You can shield wall every other obsidian beam guaranteed, and you can spell reflect in between
wild anvil
Well in 7s your healers are going to be awful too typically. But the final boss ...
First boss
Obsidian beam
smoky anvil
Can spell block the tank buster as well.
regal yarrow
Don't forget that spell reflect is a 25% mitigation even if it doesn't reflect the spell
strong forum
For 2nd boss dawn beaker you can do smth like this
smoky anvil
For 2nd boss dawn beaker you can do smth like this
I’ve been holding demo for it on our 12 prog and it’s made it a lot smoother for me. Appreciated this.
strong forum
You wanna plan your CDs like this for basically every boss that is scary to you
Once you have your plan setup, you're Bing chilling
strong forum
Have seen that in +16
Both SW charges and Spellblock ready
Nah fam we just proc BSV
wild anvil
Sr only is magic DMG reduction right?
lilac sedge
No, it's movember.
No. Its NNN
strong forum
NNN is the zoomer meme shit
Movember has an actual good movement behind it
That isn't just haha xd lol
lilac sedge
no, NNN is the 2024 meta
novel comet
my razer mouse is dying and i see the new ones have new programmable buttons. an...
You can map them to key combinations. For example, I have the Naga with the 6 buttons on the side. Those 6 buttons are not "mouse button" but rather macro buttons. So you have to bind them to something on your keyboard.
and then bind your spell to the keyboarrd shortcut (which is also a "mouse button" that you assigned it to)
wild anvil
Depending on encounter length you wanna start with SW as it has an incredibly sh...
What would you say the effective CD of SW is?
I know it varies based on rage etc but like an avg or something lol
strong forum
40sec with imp wall when you play well
With defender aegis it's closer to 1min/1min15
As Colossus it's also longer than those
wild anvil
Thanks
lilac sedge
guys can me and my alliance friend queue timewalk dungs together?
or do we have to be the same faction
zenith gyro
guys can me and my alliance friend queue timewalk dungs together?
I would suggest that you be proactive on this one and just not have friends on Alliance... Zug Zug my friend.
leaden raptor
Any trinkets from BRD worth getting?
lilac sedge
I would suggest that you be proactive on this one and just not have friends on A...
i met her recently, she might be a baddie irl
who knows, she could be my future wife aswell
plush tendon
qued content is no cross faction
lilac sedge
qued content is no cross faction
so i cant?
plush tendon
correct
lilac sedge
:(
plush tendon
appears to be changing in the next update
you can still do instanced content though
zenith gyro
Ah my bad, thought it was something they pushed through and not a future update.
deft mortar
Are they incompotent or just annoying
waxen cradle
Yes
sharp gale
Are they incompotent or just annoying
They prevently said before the expansion, cross faction auto queues are something they need to heavy work on the code since it is hard coded, we get premade auto queues and PvP premade autoqueues, I’m fine
I don’t think they are delaying the day auto queues are full cross faction since they will be making more money, and we all love money
deft mortar
They prevently said before the expansion, cross faction auto queues are somethin...
bros get paid $15/month by everyone playing the goddamn game on top of the expansion $$ itself
People make fresh fkn games for just $60
hardy snow
Are they incompotent or just annoying
deft mortar
https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682
kekw
sharp gale
bros get paid $15/month by everyone playing the goddamn game on top of the expan...
They win more money if people are buying race changes
deft mortar
Bricked an 11 Boralus because healer died first boss so WW and I had to duo the boss from 35% (ez I aint dying), then healer and mage died in last boss so we had to go again
I can isolate every key I brick to dps/healer errors
deft mortar
They win more money if people are buying race changes
All my friends are alliance, for over 10 years
I aint folding
Greenest bestest
We just queue at the same exact second
sharp gale
All my friends are alliance, for over 10 years
That’s not about you and red>green
knotty light
any good prot warrior streamers?
deft mortar
First of all 1) Shrek, secondly 2) Demon steroids
deft mortar
any good prot warrior streamers?
I like to see Kira's and Yoda's youtube M+ videos
But no prot warrior has a personality
There is nothing behind the armor
sharp gale
You got me with Shrek lol
Yes I don’t know any prot streamer who has a soul
But I don’t heavily search someone to watch on twitch so I think they exist
knotty light
yoda went paladin...
sharp gale
First of all 1) Shrek, secondly 2) Demon steroids
Since you are a pro on shreks what does it mean ? Wtf red shrek racial is
deft mortar
Since you are a pro on shreks what does it mean ? Wtf red shrek racial is
That's like the orc racial (idk its name, its in my avatar), but with more thinking
Attack Power is supreme
knotty light
nice gave it a follow
sharp gale
One day I’ll do a vulpera and join a furry cult
lofty warren
I use a Logitech one. But just push wheel to side :). I have keybind on both ver...
Do you accidentally hit mouse scroll or mouse click while trying to push it left or right?
faint maple
One day I’ll do a vulpera and join a furry cult
I was there, I was vulpera, don’t do it!
sharp gale
I was there, I was vulpera, don’t do it!
But gnomes can’t be shaman and I want to be smol
But Vulp transmogs are so ugly
toxic pewter
nah Vulpera actually a solid transmog race, it is difficult to make a good mog for them
Vulpera all around a solid race
best quality of life racials in the game
sharp gale
nah Vulpera actually a solid transmog race, it is difficult to make a good mog f...
Vulpera + mail armor type is the hardest difficulty selected
toxic pewter
I have seen some cool vulpera hunters and shamans here and there
sharp gale
I have seen some cool vulpera hunters and shamans here and there
No you don’t