630 crests ?
#protection
sharp gale
sharp gale
5x 90 is 450
vestal edge
u lost me
sharp gale
You can full upgrade you set still
vestal edge
ik lol im jp
bro thinks im near the cap XD we farming them 5 gildeds per failed key son
sharp gale
No im just thinking people will reach cap when it doesn’t matter anymore
People starting fresh now
merry sluice
@void skiff we're all following you
void skiff
<@454348132319494146> we're all following you
You’re in the walls
tender reef
No the thing that stuns and gives sb
merry sluice
Its where all the blood players hide, so we can escape more nerfs
tender reef
Alt 1 is stun bolt alt 2 is chain sword alt 3 is stun wave alt 4 is hp shout
inner wren
Bro bdks get out you’re bad luck
heavy sparrow
Just broke my 2k!!! Mythic +
toxic pewter
Bro bdks get out you’re bad luck
hows drachtyr warr do u enjoy it so far
heavy sparrow
I did dawnbreaker 8 and ara kara 7!!
sharp gale
GG
heavy sparrow
Woohoo
rugged sable
So is there anything in the BRD raid that we want to get with the Bullions?
heavy sparrow
Maybe a trinket
sharp gale
The big question about the BRD raid, does it fill the vault ?
heavy sparrow
Heroic trinket looks like the haste BoA heirloom
deft hinge
anyone tried running without frothing berserker and how it feels? as rare rev is used, what does 20% chance on rage back give feels wasted on paper
heavy sparrow
Has equip chance for physical damage
void skiff
Its where all the blood players hide, so we can escape more nerfs
Aren’t ele shams in the walls too? That’s where power to the wall sockets comes from right?
vestal edge
i use it all the time but i was worried it was one of those out of spec abilities like casting arcane shot as a SV hunter XD
sharp gale
i use it all the time but i was worried it was one of those out of spec abilitie...
It does feel like it it’s just shieldslamish but spender
tender reef
Bro bdks get out you’re bad luck
I was born in the year of the rooster, luck is the wind below my wings
tender reef
is execute worth sometimes i feel like its wet noodle
It proccs shieldslam I do sometimes the double spam of shieldslam and execute
Feels great, sounds amazing too
deft hinge
i dunno i still press revenge like 100 times in a dungeon
its approx 400 rage saved and 1600 used. But thats before BSC proccs come into the picture, if not BSC and FB can procc at same time. I may overthink it i guess
tender reef
Boing floouiiuu boing floiiooiuui boing flouioiuoi
merry sluice
Aren’t ele shams in the walls too? That’s where power to the wall sockets comes ...
shhh don't tell blizzard.
its where the earth eleemntals go when on cd
merry sluice
Bro bdks get out you’re bad luck
Sorry, im already here, spreading my bad luck
pastel geyser
Why did blood dk get nerfed tho lmao
Frost fully deserved it but blood seemed random lol
vestal edge
It proccs shieldslam I do sometimes the double spam of shieldslam and execute
yeah i spam those two and i just mash my ip and sb to try to keep something up while i tunnel XD
merry sluice
bc blizzard devs didn't get their daily dose of co-worker milk so their brain lacked the nurients for critical thought
vestal edge
blizz doesnt love dk that much they only get to be good for a few weeks
pastel geyser
Or their engine is so bad they cant only nerf hero talents for one spec
pastel geyser
Since slayer nerfs affect arms too lmao
vestal edge
were due for brewmaster being best tank for 5 xpacs again
simple drum
Thoughts on using Bloodmallet for Prot Warrior data?
sharp gale
Thoughts on using Bloodmallet for Prot Warrior data?
Yes go reroll mechagnomes, we all wait you to do it
simple drum
I guess that’s a thought
vestal edge
we want tinkers!
tender reef
bc blizzard devs didn't get their daily dose of co-worker milk so their brain la...
Feminism ruins literally everything
sharp gale
Thoughts on using Bloodmallet for Prot Warrior data?
But tbh, if you want just to look dmg yes it’s fine
violet ginkgo
Frost fully deserved it but blood seemed random lol
blizzard rule is if you nerf 1 spec the other must get collateral damage.
cyan echo
Hi all! Would you take 623 Oppressive Orator's Larynx or 6 coins?
tender reef
What are ur trinkets
simple drum
Hi all! Would you take 623 Oppressive Orator's Larynx or 6 coins?
We wouldn’t be able to tell you that
sharp gale
blizzard rule is if you nerf 1 spec the other must get collateral damage.
Fire is the collateral for mage ?
cyan echo
Fair, Got Hero Sacbrood and Hero Skarmorak
tender reef
I'd kick the skarmorak out before I take a socket
simple drum
I'd kick the skarmorak out before I take a socket
Wait aren’t the 90 second mastery on-uses insane for us? Lol
tender reef
Oh is that the mark of khaderos ?
cyan echo
Thought so too, but we stop using Ravager for Cheat for high keys
tender reef
He said skaderok not mark
sharp gale
He said skaderok not mark
Both trinkets does almost exact same thing
simple drum
I’m going Sacbrood and Treacherous Transmitter
tender reef
Better myth weird + sac hero than hero weird + sac and socket
deft mortar
Frfrdr
cyan echo
I can sub in Hook, Arsenal and Pactstone for the Skarmorak
tender reef
Myth track ? 639
cyan echo
Nothing on myth
tender reef
That's my point
Sac > myth > hero
Easy
And then socket behind that
Also sockets only on myth bis gear
cyan echo
Got myth helm to socket, aswell as belt
deft mortar
I wish we had more fun trinkets
I liked that WoD trinket that gave stacking stamina if u remained above 50% hp
That was alotta health
But well S1 never has fun trinkets
sharp gale
On my mage
sharp gale
Well I still do low keys with my mage so it is nice to see something disappear
But not really fun because it’s a cast
sweet summit
urchin was not fun
sweet summit
razor was fun
sweet summit
no
wicked pollen
wtf
smoky anvil
I’m not a fan of mandate, swapped to egg trinket instead.
sweet summit
i'm itf enjoyer now
wicked pollen
im back to itf
deft mortar
One day we will have spymaster on strength trinket
Bro imagine that for tanking
We ain't dying like stupid mages either
BTW does that Dragonflight flask that gives u 6% less dmg taken above 50% health work in war witgin
wicked pollen
ill just drop sb
deft mortar
Cuz I use it but I can't twll
tender reef
Got myth helm to socket, aswell as belt
But u only get 1 myth per week, why waste a slot you can actually use, till you actually have a vault that is useless
U need like 20+ weeks to be full myth
If u lucky
cyan echo
Ye, it's "13" ilvl on a trinket with random amount of str, where something flat may be better overall for survival
tender reef
Sure
vestal edge
does anyone run stam trinks for high mplus? my healers always trying to get me to get this one stam trink XD
tender reef
I'd still take the 13 I lvls over a socket I will get every week with a higher %
That's just my opinion
U kinda asked
deft mortar
I'd still take the 13 I lvls over a socket I will get every week with a higher %
Yeah 100%
cyan echo
Ye, ye
deft mortar
I got 5 Mythic pieces now
tender reef
Based
deft mortar
Eventually I'll get slapped with 3 slots no upgrades
sweet summit
hojw the fuyck do i draw with this new mdt
vestal edge
what i like about 2/4 set is atleast it seems like constant uptime iwth no maintenance
tender reef
Wish I knew how to use it 
vestal edge
id def do the trtinket
alpine adder
If you dont take ara kara I will never forgive you
vestal edge
at this point u can get hero armor literally anywhere and just convert it
tender reef
https://tenor.com/view/dudu-bubu-bubu-dudu-dudu-run-dudu-running-bubu-attack-gif-8423131164250366515
vestal edge
u will upgrade that trink to max eventually so dont worry about the 4ilvl just get it
tender reef
I get garbage every week and here you have people complaining about queen ring and Ära trinket
End me
Gz you totally deserve it
Bro wants to take hero set over Ära myth
I still run 593 ara
tender reef
And then the Pala got it in premade run but he's like ahh it Simms 3k higher can't give
Brooo it's 30 ilvl upgrade for me
vestal edge
my offtank cuz im tanking
sly hamlet
How do u guys tank the packs in CoT after 2nd boss? Just kite or can the Jab be outranged if moved correctly?
autumn minnow
worth picking crit/mastery myth track shield or should i craft a 636 shield?
tender reef
How do u guys tank the packs in CoT after 2nd boss? Just kite or can the Jab be ...
Face tank and bomb em
Or do you play 12+?
vestal edge
worth picking crit/mastery myth track shield or should i craft a 636 shield?
first mythic boss drops a shield anyway
sly hamlet
Or do you play 12+?
yes - kiting is fine but it loses so much dmg
tender reef
Have to start farm that one
autumn minnow
first mythic boss drops a shield anyway
i dont raid tho :/
tender reef
yes - kiting is fine but it loses so much dmg
Then you're wrong here check Kira and yoga on YouTube what they do
tender reef
You have to in high keys
vestal edge
how many mythic bosses are free like first 3 or 4?
tender reef
0
deft mortar
Bros basically multiboxing at that point
With automated rotation bots
Calls everything lol
vestal edge
i just feel so limited by healers in keys. every time theres an aoe pulse ability that hits everyone healers scramble and dps die
deft mortar
I get Gatekeeper vibes
vestal edge
but i gues the dps could defensive better too
vestal edge
lmao my one dk dps dies to everything XXDDD
tender reef
Dps are most annoying on pugs atm
dusky abyss
hi, is there any smith that can craft belts rank 5? I can be invited to your guild so I can put the order
vestal edge
and then were like brez and shes like im breathing right now
tender reef
They always die and then pull, then die then leave
Or don't play mechanic off boss
Die
alpine adder
dps are terrible
tender reef
Leave
vestal edge
do you guys ever find frost dk pulling packs that are like 50 feet ahead of the group
tender reef
You can mark, you can ping
vestal edge
like mid pull
deft mortar
This mage raged at me for doing a small pull at first than died to the small pull
pastel geyser
Is there any good gear from hc brd for prot?
tender reef
Hunters and warlocks pull
tender reef
Dk and Druide normally don't on purpose
deft mortar
It's funny that dps think we're afraid to pull because we can't survive
Buddy I got 55% armor 130% block chance and 11.5M unbuffed HP
ornate thicket
hi, is there any smith that can craft belts rank 5? I can be invited to your gui...
Yes if USA. Wont be on until later tonight tho
deft mortar
Its u whose dying
tender reef
Yeah
And then cry and leave
I pull what I think YOU guys can handle
If not route
vestal edge
my dk dps just constantly pisses me off always an excuse oh im too slow to run there oh my brez costs rp so i cant oh i mightve pulled that with my line like
ornate thicket
do you guys ever find frost dk pulling packs that are like 50 feet ahead of the ...
Yes their breath of sindragosa if they dont know how to aim will pull thru walls too lol
vestal edge
Yes their breath of sindragosa if they dont know how to aim will pull thru walls...
every key with this hoe
proud plank
every key with this hoe
is she hot?
vestal edge
is she hot?
not sure but she has a speech impediment
vestal edge
so yes
proud plank
ok good keep her
tender reef
Lmao
proud plank
teach her to become a good fdk
manic perch
what is our % haste we need to aim for?
tender reef
Stutters are wutters
proud plank
if you find out she’s ugly, kick, block, report
proud plank
prot moment
vestal edge
this is the problem with playing retail with your classic buddies when they cant identify a soak circle u cant just kick em
proud plank
vestal edge
"whats this boss do again" bruther its a 10 how did u get in
vestal edge
most of my classic guildies never played retail even back then they started in 2019 classic. so seeing retail mechanics theyre just lost
tribal wharf
Found at walmart today, it has a much different context or me though seeing that title
proud plank
pug life worst life
tribal wharf
it is what it is, or thats life, your pro or noob
strong forum
what is our % haste we need to aim for?
Yes
inner wren
Yes
tribal wharf
haste? TO THE SKIES!!!
chrome lance
Legit random Q of the day: Wasnt playing last xpac really, all this crafting crap is new; wowhead and icyweins good place to start reading on what the hell to do? 😄
median crypt
Hey guys. Just did a CoT +10 on my prot war alt. He is 608 ilv and pretty unoptimized. But nevertheless everything was ok until first boss. I pulled it with 0 resources and I kinda just died instantly on the tank breaker because I didn’t have any ignore pain and I was already at 40% hp. In retrospect I should have probably popped shield wall going into the pull. But do you guys have any advice on that? I feel like I’m doing something wrong when pulling trash / bosses because I have a lot of trouble both keeping agro and stabilizing. I basically need to rotate a cooldown every time I enter a pack which I feel like is not ideal.
tribal wharf
honestly though, real answer, real stopping point for actively getting haste is something like 42-45%, which would be an insane number to reach on its own
median crypt
Hey guys. Just did a CoT +10 on my prot war alt. He is 608 ilv and pretty unopti...
Anyone got advice?
south zealot
use cooldowns for tank busters
median crypt
I did but it was too little too late
south zealot
need a log for more specifics on what youre doing wrong
twin slate
Are there any good equipment from the new Raid worth chasing for? I tried to search but can't find anywhere talking about this
vestal edge
Hey guys. Just did a CoT +10 on my prot war alt. He is 608 ilv and pretty unopti...
i believe that ability on the first boss is both magic and phys damage so shield block plus spell block. but nevertheless 608 is pretty raw for 10s
median crypt
The tank buster comes out like 8 seconds into the pull
median crypt
i believe that ability on the first boss is both magic and phys damage so shield...
Yeah 608 is a bit raw.
But like it should be doable
vestal edge
ITS FUCKING RAW
median crypt
I’m just playing it wrong
vestal edge
youd need a bussssssssssssin healer
mighty valley
wait, so you started at 100%, and dropped to 40% before the tankbuster even came out?
flat saddle
Just saw this! Thank you friend 😄
south zealot
608 is super chill for 10s
tribal wharf
ITS FUCKING RAW
median crypt
wait, so you started at 100%, and dropped to 40% before the tankbuster even came...
Yes exactly
tribal wharf
this guy makes that joke every video
stable veldt
608 is super chill for 10s
Is this true? Hit 606 doing nothing but delves and wanted to dip my toes into m+
median crypt
That’s the thing though I think I’m doing wrong and need advice for. Took me like 2 globales to get shield block up
vestal edge
im 621 and i still cant find anyone to time 10s with XD dps insta die to every mechanic and ive met some pretty good healers but if ur dps die theres nothing to do
median crypt
And then I was just so behind and died
vestal edge
im in favor of nerfing dps damaging mechanic
frosty mango
That’s the thing though I think I’m doing wrong and need advice for. Took me lik...
Shield charge into boss
south zealot
Shield charge into boss
dont do that
mighty valley
charge + anything is enough to get shield block up
south zealot
just charge shield slam
median crypt
Shield charge into boss
That’s probably a good idea yeah but it was in cd
south zealot
and u have it up
median crypt
Ok great
frosty mango
dont do that
If you have shit gear and you know you’re not gonna be able to get block up for 2-3 globals why wouldn’t you do that
median crypt
I feel like I used ignore pain first or something
south zealot
bc u get it up immediately anyways
proud plank
south zealot
with shield slam
vestal edge
shield block is miles beetter than ip keep in mind
south zealot
u can even charge avatar
median crypt
Good to know
south zealot
and have it up
vestal edge
ip is good but its insta ate every time if u dont have shield block up ur messing up
talents and what not plus shield charge allows for just about 100 percent uptime on SB
south zealot
ip isnt something you try to keep up
slate crow
Hey peeps, if the discussion already happen sorry to ask again, but.
With BRD Heroic, any new interesting trinket? 😄
median crypt
Also like holy shit I barely have enough globals to get ignore pain up to max for each tank buster for first boss. Raw shield block + IP + spell reflect still brought me down to like 30% hp
vestal edge
what if we had like a poise meter and we can block spells all the time as long as our poise isnt broken and poise worked something like stagger
frosty mango
Also like holy shit I barely have enough globals to get ignore pain up to max fo...
You don’t need to stack ip
pastel geyser
Ive noticed with prot warrior it seems like the tank class with the lowest self healing. But the highest amount of dr, i rarely drop below 70% pretty interesting
median crypt
You don’t need to stack ip
Wdym? Again I’m very new to war. I leveled this guy last week and I’m just jumping straight Into 10s haha
stable veldt
Hey peeps, if the discussion already happen sorry to ask again, but.
With BRD He...
I did see a 1 handed sword that randomly increases str which is cool ig
pastel geyser
Only other tank class i played is bdk so comparison is pretty wild
south zealot
ignore pain isnt something you actively try to keep up
pastel geyser
I did see a 1 handed sword that randomly increases str which is cool ig
Said sword has no str on it tho
south zealot
read the wowhead guide
stable veldt
Said sword has no str on it tho
Oh lame
vestal edge
Ive noticed with prot warrior it seems like the tank class with the lowest self ...
yeah those abilities that truck the dk tho hardly scratch a war. depending on damage profile we can absorb like 80 percent of damage
tribal wharf
what if we had like a poise meter and we can block spells all the time as long a...
i want the say, i really really really really enjoy the mechanic of lost ark where an enemy is casting a bar and if you deal enough dps and "special dps" it breaks through the shield, or the spell and stops the spell from happening in certain scenarios
median crypt
But isn’t it good to have it maxed for a tank buster?
median crypt
I’m like 607.5 ilv tho
pastel geyser
Also for last boss of necrotic, do the ice bolts he throws actually do magic dmg? Ive seen “blocked” text without spell block up
vestal edge
10s are hard for me too 
south zealot
physical
frosty mango
Wdym? Again I’m very new to war. I leveled this guy last week and I’m just jumpi...
Subjugate is shared phys/shadow, shield block + whatever ip you have up + reflect + demo will be up for nearly every one and it will do like 20% ish, you can impending directly after if it’s scary but there’s not much other damage going out
vestal edge
Also for last boss of necrotic, do the ice bolts he throws actually do magic dmg...
theyre similar to jaina this boss came out shortly after jaina fight and its very similar
so physical damage even tho its an ice bolt kek
pastel geyser
I didnt played bfa that patch
tribal wharf
i dont enjoy the last fight of NW overly, but its fairly easy
median crypt
Subjugate is shared phys/shadow, shield block + whatever ip you have up + reflec...
Ok that’s a good plan. I was actually just popping demo on cd and not saving it for the buster
I literally didn’t think about that
tribal wharf
i dont like how it rips one of your dps players awaay
vestal edge
i guess it makes sense if someone pegged an ice ball at you that would hurt in a physical way
pastel geyser
Lol
median crypt
fuck it though I think I’ll just try to farm crests and gain some ilvs lol
I need some margin of error I’m still learning
mighty valley
i really think you'll see a difference if you change your priorities
vestal edge
when the hook is lined up and the dps gets fixated and pulls it out XD
tribal wharf
i enjoy fights where it lets you really go all out for 100% of the fight
mighty valley
you were just eating autos with no shield block up, change that and you'll be alright
median crypt
Got it thanks 😊
mighty valley
just think in terms of maximizing rage income rather than IP uptime
lofty warren
Who is race changing to dragon,
wraith stirrup
How's everyone's Shield block uptime % looking?
lofty warren
?
vestal edge
i mean why not spam ip tho im constantly raged capped and revenge feels like a waste of gcd on single target unless its procced
if execute aint up and shield block is fine what else is there to spend on
cedar arch
we got a crit cap as prot ?
lofty warren
Don't think you can have 100% uptime on shield block
civic jackal
Hello all new to prot warrior, should crit and vers be roughly the same value?
mighty valley
i mean why not spam ip tho im constantly raged capped and revenge feels like a w...
revenge is a chance to reset SS
fathom turtle
just joined reading here and im into tanking since like 2 weeks now. we dont stack ignore pain? i feel like im going down pretty easy on m+10 with ilvl 614. most dangerous moments for me is if i pull a new big pack
jagged pier
How's everyone's Shield block uptime % looking?
not too shabby but this doesnt really show u how well your using it
mighty valley
you do spam IP as a consequence of getting tons of rage income but you should still keep enough in the tank to fill every gcd
unkempt acorn
Sorry if its been asked any of the Blackrock gear worth it?
vestal edge
revenge is a chance to reset SS
im already shield slamming 3 or 4 times in a row tho and im capped rage after 2 slams why not just hit ip in between those to cap myself from overcapping
graceful kite
just joined reading here and im into tanking since like 2 weeks now. we dont sta...
You press it to spend rage
You dont care about stacking or not stacking it
mighty valley
im already shield slamming 3 or 4 times in a row tho and im capped rage after 2 ...
yes, you naturally spam IP to avoid overcapping, but skipping a gcd that could've been a revenge is bad
graceful kite
You have 70 rage you press it
vestal edge
Don't think you can have 100% uptime on shield block
u def can
2 sheild block plus a free one with shield charge plus heavy repercussions
deft mortar
Ngl we can eat autos without shield block up
We shouldn't but we can
Other tanks can't
fathom turtle
so u revange over IP? i try not to spam revange that hard tbh xD
cedar arch
is their a crit cap in M+ ? so i can take more versa ???
vestal edge
yeah but hwy would u sb is off gcd and basically free to keep up
plush tendon
so u revange over IP? i try not to spam revange that hard tbh xD
no, prio is always generators
jagged pier
so u revange over IP? i try not to spam revange that hard tbh xD
nope
stable veldt
Only way you're not upkeeping shield block 100% of the time is bad rng or overspending rage
mighty valley
so u revange over IP? i try not to spam revange that hard tbh xD
IP isn't on the gcd so it's not a choice
graceful kite
Ngl we can eat autos without shield block up
Because you have block without shield block
graceful kite
so u revange over IP? i try not to spam revange that hard tbh xD
No
plush tendon
and because we have SS and Tclap so often, the only efficient way to spend rage is from IP
jagged pier
is their a crit cap in M+ ? so i can take more versa ???
no cap of any stat u pump ilvl then haste then it doesnt matter
graceful kite
You use revenge when you dont have both slam and clap
vestal edge
yes, you naturally spam IP to avoid overcapping, but skipping a gcd that could'v...
i guess in terms of gcd i do shield slam = thunder blast > thunder clap > revenge
deft mortar
No like I meant without SB we are as tanky as a Prot Pala with his Shield of Righteousness active which is so funny
pastel geyser
Is weapon or shield better to upgrade to 636 crafted?
stable veldt
Shield id figure
plush tendon
Is weapon or shield better to upgrade to 636 crafted?
go shield first
deft mortar
Ye shield
stable veldt
Higher level shield means more block right
graceful kite
Yes
mighty valley
i guess in terms of gcd i do shield slam = thunder blast > thunder clap > reveng...
yeah, this is correct, just sounded like you were saying that pressing revenge was a waste when it's still there at the bottom of the prio
ornate thicket
just joined reading here and im into tanking since like 2 weeks now. we dont sta...
If you are getting smacked on the pull thats likely from not having shield block up, low amounts of IP built, or you have your back to mobs. Charge into a shield slam closest mob to get rage for shield block up immediately. Then go into typical rotation. If you charge mid or bsck of pack you can get smacked in the back.
vestal edge
yeah, this is correct, just sounded like you were saying that pressing revenge w...
nah not a waste i just barely have time to press it constantly resetting shield slam and then trying to use all my thunder blasts. im just saying with all those slams and claps im constantly overcapped so when i have better gcds to spend im burning ips like crazy
mighty valley
yeah that's right
it's just a mindset thing for new players - they panic about ip uptime and overspam
mighty valley
when you end up pressing ip constantly even if you only think of it as the overcap preventer
vestal edge
and impending victory is the jester
civic jackal
Should crit and vers be balanced ? or we can stack more crit than vers?
vestal edge
Should crit and vers be balanced ? or we can stack more crit than vers?
crit is melee/phys mit cuz of parry vers is magic mit
so weight it depdning on what ur doing
offensively their similar enough
civic jackal
crit is melee/phys mit cuz of parry vers is magic mit
Thanks
vestal edge
but dont sleep on mastery trinks. big pull that 5k mastery is a pretty notable offensive and defensive buff
vestal edge
Verse is ALL mit
yes it drs all damage i just mean parry for crit is more physical focused
we need more parry focused abilities too. what if we had a die by the sword type ability we parry everything for 5 seconds and then all the damage we parried we do one big retaliate
mighty valley
die by the sword was on the class tree for literally one iteration before they were like "uh oh that would be fucked up for prot"
dusky canopy
vestal edge
yeah maybe a nerfed version not like the classic version but like more like how blade dance used to make u immune for a second
ornate thicket
Would be cool
vestal edge
like u pull a big pack parry eveyrthing for 5 seconds then use that retialiate to one shot the caster mob XD
real fossil
How far behind is ascendance to double duskweave
jagged pier
not very
but if u get a myth wep u wanna replace anyways
so u might as well go dusk
or the other one weave
random axle
Mythic mastery/haste shield (I have crafted) mythic haste/vers wrists or silken court hc tank trinket from vault? Any tips?
bitter zealot
So I'm playing my alt ran with another prot warrior i simply asked why he isn't using his kicks. He said "prot warrior doesn't require kicks"
sick sentinel
ive found this to be extremely accurate
random axle
So I'm playing my alt ran with another prot warrior i simply asked why he isn't ...
The melee range kick is a bit annoying but thats about it
smoky anvil
GB is one of my favorite keys now post-nerf.
bitter zealot
I love tanking GB
smoky anvil
My main enemy keys are spooder people dungeons.
sick sentinel
what did great britain do to yall
smoky anvil
Rest are chill.
sick sentinel
My main enemy keys are spooder people dungeons.
for real tho
they are so fucking hell
mighty valley
yeah I was nervous about another cata dungeon but this one worked out in the end
random axle
Mythic mastery/haste shield (I have crafted) mythic haste/vers wrists or silken ...
Could any1 help me with vault? 🙌🏻
sick sentinel
GB is very fun with the dragon build
smoky anvil
Ara-kara till last boss is lit.
sick sentinel
i hate the 1st boss in ara-kara
smoky anvil
Last boss all brain turns off and you pray your team can win.
sick sentinel
I hate the entire dg
bitter zealot
I always ask if people know the last boss always "yep" then they all die
smoky anvil
Mythic mastery/haste shield (I have crafted) mythic haste/vers wrists or silken ...
What’re your wrists lil homie
random axle
I havent wiped on arakara for 3 weeks now tho, who are you playing with? 😅
random axle
What’re your wrists lil homie
I was planning on making crafted but not yet
smoky anvil
My ret pally friend who has the yips when it comes to not dying to something on last boss.
random axle
Retardin things hahah
bitter zealot
I just wish people admitted to not knowing something rather then f up a whole run
smoky anvil
I was planning on making crafted but not yet
If you have embellishments covered I’d probably go wrists.
Otherwise, shield. Technically, shield is the best option cuz 639 shield blocks more than a 636.
random axle
So trinket aint even an option for you
smoky anvil
Fuck no.
random axle
Id take shield but having it mastery as biggest substat hurts
smoky anvil
Mastery ain’t awful for us.
And shields don’t carry a lot of crit nor haste either so, provided you’ve got a lot either it’s not a massive L.
Main goal is the block.
strange comet
all our stats are pretty close, no?
digital moon
What happened to warriors why am I super squishy
smoky anvil
all our stats are pretty close, no?
Haste is first amongst equals
random axle
Aighty ill take shield then and get another patch somewhere. Tyvm alkaraz
random axle
Did we get nerfed
I havent heard anything about it
smoky anvil
Did we get nerfed
No. What you doing that you’re getting clapped?
digital moon
Yea for some reason I am
smoky anvil
What key or what raid
digital moon
+10 cot
digital moon
Whole thing
strange comet
i noticed i got a little beat up after the rage gen changes a lil while ago but that could jus be a transfer of less IP
smoky anvil
i noticed i got a little beat up after the rage gen changes a lil while ago but ...
I noticed I needed to dial back IP spam too.
strange comet
I noticed I needed to dial back IP spam too.
yeah i was rage droughting a bit more than usual
digital moon
I almost get one shot through shield wall by one mob
smoky anvil
Whole thing
Hard to say without a log. When I did my COT last week I felt okay.
round pendant
uh sounds like people aren't kicking web bolts to me
smoky anvil
Might could be.
round pendant
not enough info sorry
random axle
Same here, only maybe big pack after 2nd boss but thats the hardest pack anyway
digital moon
It was true people weren’t kicking
round pendant
well there you go
not your fault
use spell block and hope your dps grow a few brain cells before you die
paper crown
Spell block up
digital moon
I’ll just go again and see what happens
random axle
Thats the attitude my man
smoky anvil
Some times you brick keys
I bricked a 10 SoB because I was so focused on not fucking up the frontal during 3rd boss 3rd wave I got hit by the second. I had all CDs up and coulda lived but brain just didn’t work.
digital moon
Yea was just confused since patch hit and I just almost insta died all the time
raven sluice
Any change to recommended trinkets with 11.0.5?
slow violet
Okey guys, about this decision. I talked with multiple top warrs prot through disc and they answer me, the ring is not a good choice actually take the shoulders no tier
That's the generral conclusion
I mean, ring is dmg nerfed for tanks, and bad stats for m+ so u pref rings full haste and versa
smoky anvil
Okey guys, about this decision. I talked with multiple top warrs prot through di...
I don’t habla, is that 626 ansurek ring?
slow violet
yes
south zealot
I mean, ring is dmg nerfed for tanks, and bad stats for m+ so u pref rings full ...
ring is still great
you dont want full haste versa you want full haste with some crit and vers and a bit of mastery
ignoring any 1 stat is bad
smoky anvil
Ring fucks and is hard to get. I’d go ring personally. Between vault and m+ you’ll see pads you can catalyst at worse.
south zealot
you can afford to use ansurek ring and get haste on all other pieces
chilly brook
daring copper
Gonna run new raid now, any trinkets i should look out for? 😄
ebon abyss
Gonna run new raid now, any trinkets i should look out for? 😄
spymaster so you can trade to my priest
zinc lichen
I think they mean BRD raid
daring copper
hahah, wish i could bud. Lich is right 🙂
ebon abyss
I'd roll for every trinket just in case
nocturne vine
Hey yo guys, im checking builds, what is the actual utility of spell block at rashnan mythic
ebon abyss
like every ability except for savage assault deals nature damage
here you have lorrgs screen
wooden widget
Spell block has saved me countless times during the bad add overlaps
jagged pier
vocal cave
spell block works on the add dot?
dense sequoia
Where is that spreadsheet from?
jagged pier
the pins
lofty veldt
so im trying to challenge myself and see how far i can push every tank in m+
no tank is giving me the satisfcation im getting from prot warrior so far
i only leveled the others though
nocturne vine
like every ability except for savage assault deals nature damage
here you have l...
Thx mate super useful
nocturne vine
Thx a lot 😀
inner wren
i only leveled the others though
only playing thru normie dungeons doesnt show much
but maybe you just like war vibes
lofty veldt
only playing thru normie dungeons doesnt show much
very valid
i like the feedback loop im getting from the warrior
lofty veldt
it's so damn fast with the event
nimble heron
guys what I need to choose? huge def versa myth trinket or hero ara-kara?
hoary belfry
do you guys min max battle stance in m+ i feel like its not worth it lol
sweet summit
nah i cba
inner wren
nah i cba
rancid tiger
obsidian girder
hey guys, is dropping ravager for battle-scarred veteran a good idea ?
dark plover
Depends
obsidian girder
any rule of thumb ?
dark plover
High keys and dangerous pulls, yeah you probably want BSV. It rarely procs for me in 10s so I roll with Ravager.
weary vault
It depends on the pulls you are going to be doing and if you trust the pug
obsidian girder
haha ok
weary vault
I've just been running double shield wall and BSV even in 10s
tardy abyss
You never need BSV if you play properly
weary vault
I would like to point to M+ keys above 12
inner wren
if youre thinking about taking bsv just ask yourself if youre currently running 13s or not
dark plover
Yeah I'd never take BSV in 10s and below imo
tardy abyss
Not even in 12s tbh
tardy abyss
Unless you're severely undergeared you shouldn't consider BSV until 14s-ish
real fossil
Double shield wall is a trap
tardy abyss
Or go for crazy routes
weary vault
Bro you're running with a team in 12's ofc you don't need it lol
Most of these dudes are pugging
lol
real fossil
Unless you can tell me exactly the pull you go back to back shield walls don’t play it ever
weary vault
45 of the top prot warriors in the world are playing double shield wall so you are tracking. This is in higher keys
ofc
tardy abyss
NW first pull with G7 is where double SW could be useful
real fossil
tardy abyss
But if you go for that you're crazy to begin with
smoky anvil
I didn’t understand what uncomfortable was until I did a 12.
Anything below that now is comfy.
tardy abyss
But it's always worth noting that you should not copy the top prots unless you really know what you're doing
I.E. ITF
warped nymph
guys what I need to choose? huge def versa myth trinket or hero ara-kara?
not the magic finger
nimble laurel
is there a guide or any sims on loot (specifically trinkets) from the new BRD raid?
mellow heath
need help with a vault choice. Heroic Swarmlords Authority or Mythic Skarmorak Shard?
jagged gust
shard
though the haste is nice on swarmlord, transmitter/sacbrood would be more beneficial if thats your angle
warped nymph
mastery is good??
mighty valley
all stats are good
fervent fiber
skarmarok or khadros for 10+ runs?
mighty valley
just sim that, they're so similar
fervent fiber
they sim the same almost
mighty valley
take the one that's very slightly higher i guess
fervent fiber
yeah - which is mark
warped nymph
So does colossus have any benefeit? Is it more tanky from no pain stranger to pain?
mighty valley
no, it's less tanky by a decent margin
higher dps usually though
fun in farm keys
wind ember
Hey everyone! New to this discord, so apologies if this is the wrong place to post.
I play Prot and my goal is to pull 1 million DPS during mythic + dungeons, but I cannot seem to outperform 750k-800k.
I brought up WarcraftLogs of Stevo (top 20 prot warrior) who pulled 1.3mil DPS in Ara Kara with similar gear to myself, and compared it to a similar log of mine (Pishsmom)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XdjtAc14gh6J2Wxq#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=2 (stevo)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cFAXp6myg3z1BCq8#fight=35&type=damage-done&source=31 (me)
I even went through the events step-by-step and cannot for the life of me see how there is such a large discrepancy between our Shield Slam & Thunder Blast total DPS.
I am a returning player so i may be missing something crucial, is there anything that I am missing from these logs?
vestal moat
Colossus has less rage. Rage makes us tankier.
warped nymph
Colossus has less rage. Rage makes us tankier.
oh ok makes sensee
mighty valley
Hey everyone! New to this discord, so apologies if this is the wrong place to po...
first up, i'm not sure why you would take spear but not both nodes below it
you don't take punish?
jagged gust
oh ok makes sensee
on top of that several DR nodes in MT are lost, like Keep your Feet on the Ground and Strength of the Mountain
mighty valley
that's 10% shield slam on prio target right there
jagged gust
that's 10% shield slam on prio target right there
streamer build
wind ember
I think I didn't take it because I needed the point for Battle-Scarred veteran, but that's a good point
I'll check out the spear talents too, thanks for the advice!
mighty valley
really the main difference is a 10cpm gap overall, and also this
wind ember
CPM = clicks per minute i assume?
Is that shield block uptime?
jagged gust
its hits you did not block, either through dropping SB or taking back shots
wind ember
Good to know, I'll work on that. Probably both tbh
mighty valley
I think you'll be more comfy with Heavy Repercussions over ITF until you get that blocked hits up higher
Also if your goal is just max DPS in a 9 you can definitely drop BSV
jagged gust
Good to know, I'll work on that. Probably both tbh
Well I got 1 shot by a commander when trying to cast queen's mandate last week, we all make mistakes
First time I ever got 100-0'd, I was shooketh
wind ember
Should it be closer to 90% blocked?
jagged gust
You can see from your buffs alone, you're above 80% hp for almost the entire dungeon, BSV ain't doing much
100% is th goal
mighty valley
yeah some accidental lapses are to be expected but 90%+ is easy with HR
oh, shield slam should be way higher up here btw, you're overprioritizing regular thunderclap
wind ember
I hadn't thought of that. I originally took BSV because I was getting trucked in 10's, but now that i've improved mechanically I don't see it pop too often. Might swap that out
mighty valley
compare to the higher dps log
humble apex
Probably a dumb question, but I've gotten different answers from multiple 2000+ io tanks in my guild, so I'm asking here:
Rallying Cry's tooltip states "Lets loose a rallying cry, granting all party or raid members within 40 yards 10% temporary and maximum health for 10 sec."
Does this mean everyone gets +10% max health, and +10% temporary HP (effectively 20% total)?
Some guildies think it's only +10% max health, and heals you the +10%, but that's what Last Stand does - and Last Stand's tooltip is written specifically to state that it does that.
"Last Stand - Increases max health by 30% for 15 sec, and instantly heals you for that amount."
jagged gust
I hadn't thought of that. I originally took BSV because I was getting trucked in...
so this is from a 1 minute zoom of one of your highest damage intake periods, you blocked 75% of hits here, but those unblocked 25% count for nearly half of the damage taken
wind ember
Tooch I'm pretty sure it's just 10%, although the tooltip is misleading as you said
mighty valley
it just gives you 10% max hp and also fills that in, otherwise if you cast it at max hp there'd be a gap in your health bar
jagged gust
it's impermanent, so you "lose" the extra hp after the buff drops
humble apex
We're not debating if it gives you the health or not, we're talking about the temporary HP or not
Hmm
jagged gust
so if you cast it at 1% hp, you'd go up to 11% with the increase to max HP (as temporary hp) then back down to 1% after the buff drops
humble apex
You know, quickest way to figure this out is to just get a friend in a party and cast it
brb lol
mighty valley
yeah - all it's saying is that if you're at 100k max, and at full health, it both makes your new maximum 110k, and gives you temporary health equal to the diff
i'm not sure how you'd arrive at 20% current hp heal
jagged gust
better yet, look at logs, rallying cry doesn't count as healing
humble apex
Confirmed - flat 10%, just different wording than Last Stand
wind ember
oh, shield slam should be way higher up here btw, you're overprioritizing regula...
I think I priotize SS and TC the same and just click them as they come up. So i should be clicking SS>TC then, which makes sense
mighty valley
yeah - you'll see that the other log has higher cpm on Ignore Pain than you do, which is due to the higher rage income from more shield slam casts
more rage gained -> more rage spent -> more shield wall, avatar, and outburst (and more rage gained (which means more rage spent (etc)))
wind ember
Jeez I thought TC was 5 rage per target hit, that's a huge fuck up lol
wicked pollen
you don't take punish?
I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY
jagged gust
bro that would be insane
wind ember
So by that logic should I be using Violent outburst only on SS? or maybe SS and thunder Blast
jagged gust
yes to all
jagged gust
depends on target count, 2+ TB > SS, I think something like 8+ TC > SS
You need to track it very closely and anticipate when it's going to trigger to really eek the most out of it
it's one of those things you should work on once you get the basics down pat
like gio mentioned
wicked pollen
tbh i barely track it
as long as its being used on cd
it has value
mainly during cds i pay attention
but else
im trying to live
play the rest of the class
cba over a single passive
prime kernel
vs
jagged gust
ilvl > stats
prime kernel
got a shitty vault today, so its either back or socket for future myth tracks
wicked pollen
what is the rest of the vault
prime kernel
everything ive already have or got a better ilvl in that slot already from prev. myth gear
i have the very rare back equiped already, so its either 623 vault one as ilvl up, or socket
wicked pollen
it just depends on if he raids mythic
prime kernel
im not a main tank , so the back would go to me literally if i'd ever pug that boss and win, or get it from vault
jagged gust
you can't bank on the future, live in the present
wind ember
I'm looking at the damage numbers between our core rotation skills, and his skills also seem to just be hitting harder in general. Similar ilvl and STR values. Any ideas on how that could be?
jagged gust
that both advice for life in general and your vault
wicked pollen
i mean if you consistently are killing 4/8 it will drop
but if you are not
go ilevel
prime kernel
ye , was thinking the same. Just wasnt sure if dropping the rare back on norm track for the myth one would be a gain (the stats are huge > 20ilvls)
wicked pollen
I'm looking at the damage numbers between our core rotation skills, and his skil...
what spell is this
if it is shield slam
the answer is very simple
wicked pollen
idk what that is
wind ember
That one is Thunder Blast, but Shield Slam is the same issue
wicked pollen
he is playing punsih
wind ember
Thunder blast could be bigger pulls possibly, but SS numbers confuse me
wicked pollen
so his shield slam does 10% more damage always
mighty valley
could be more outbursts being spent on thunderblast, could be the two stat buff trinkets while you're playing a defensive one
wicked pollen
i just mean
jagged gust
TB is more a matter of when it procs, are you wasting procs, and how many mobs did it cast on
wicked pollen
if you are going to play talents that drop damage
you are always going to do less damage
he also drops 8% armor
which is damage
god i love copying builds
mighty valley
yeah you're just missing three damage talents on that side of the tree
wind ember
Alright that makes it simple, I was looking for timing issues and proc-based mistakes, but if my issue is as basic as talents & trinkets then RIP i'm bad
waxen orbit
Lads it’s joever, it’s pink class season again
real fossil
I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I KNOW WHY I K...
Looooool
waxen orbit
(We’re still #2 but we’re not #1 so that means we’re dogshit)
wicked pollen
i mean you can still do damage with wrong talents
but not if you are still learning the class
real fossil
i mean you can still do damage with wrong talents
I’d argue that if you are dumb enough to blindly copy the streamer build, you are also making rotational mistakes
mighty valley
Alright that makes it simple, I was looking for timing issues and proc-based mis...
i mean we also discovered that you weren't prioritizing shield slam and thought tc gave you infinity rage so it's not all build haha
wind ember
yeah I'll be working on all that too xD
wicked pollen
I’d argue that if you are dumb enough to blindly copy the streamer build, you ar...
its not an id argue, it is what will happen
🙂
real fossil
In to the fray gaming
wicked pollen
maybe hit the dummy
and try to beat your sim
im back to playing itf but like the rest
waxen orbit
Tbh I still run ITF in 12 and 13 and it feels fine most of the time
wicked pollen
is just so stupid
waxen orbit
49% haste perma kinda nutty
wicked pollen
god i wish i had your haste
waxen orbit
But it’s not a sacrifice if you’re above 32% haste
jagged gust
49% haste perma kinda nutty
at that point it doesn't really have more than a 1 second downtime every minute or so
waxen orbit
Yeah but I’ve been playing for 14 years so I’m cursed with feeling every millisecond difference
So once I know there’s a difference
It gnaws at the edges of my psyche
Normal people with healthy brains don’t feel a diff between that 35-45% haste register but that minuscule difference feels huge to you when you’ve been a min-maxing turboautist for so long
I understand why the fire mages wail
jagged gust
nah, fury feels garbage with powerful over frenzied
you really do feel the 10-15% diff
ITF makes my brain happy
waxen orbit
RIP to fury again btw
When it’s good, it’s #4 at the most
When it’s not, it’s at the bottom
jagged gust
As an AM hater I'm not a fan of the current meta
waxen orbit
wind ember
Thanks for all the help guys! Much appreciated
waxen orbit
See as much as I love fury
I do actually rejoice at having perma windfury from all three shaman specs being insanely busted
scarlet stone
49% haste perma kinda nutty
SHEESH I've only got 41% with ITF
waxen orbit
And rogue being meta so you can have a rogue with windfury
wicked pollen
fury enrage barely makes a difference to me
im just used to how fast it plays anyway
jagged gust
why are pink warriors good now anyways
zenith gyro
Cmon guys, I came to the prot tab to get away from the guys crying about fury...
waxen orbit
why are pink warriors good now anyways
Their damage is insane, they always have the most utility of any tank period, they can cover the healing where a healer can’t, they have an AOE kick every few seconds
Prot paladin is always going to be the best tank for M+ when it’s not undertuned, and when something else isn’t so comically overpowered that it’s impossible for Jesus Christ himself to present a contest
jagged gust
their damage was already insane, utility is fake, and heal yourself
But they must've had a huge bump in DR to become playable again
waxen orbit
their damage was already insane, utility is fake, and heal yourself
You don’t understand man, ANY opportunity for healers to do less work
Means that’s what is going to be taken
In a high key
It’s always been like that
It’ll never be different
We can’t have one patch without this type of thing
tribal wharf
paladin dont have 100% uptime on 70% dr from melee
waxen orbit
waxen orbit
paladin dont have 100% uptime on 70% dr from melee
Ya we still have our own advantages
Like we’re still practically immortal
But like
They are too, if played properly
fallow fern
does anyone know if we get another half spark this week? and from what quest?
waxen orbit
I’m still happy with tank balance, I just wish they’d let prot warrior have more stuff that helps protect teammates
waxen orbit
does anyone know if we get another half spark this week? and from what quest?
I think you just get it from doing content
tribal wharf
only reason i would want to play paladin or brew or bear
is so i could dispell self on demand
waxen orbit
dwarf
tribal wharf
oncew horde, horde foreer
jagged gust
>dwarf
If their run animation wasn't a fat guy trying to hold in a shart I'd be on board
waxen orbit
I can respect the faction loyalty
I’ve always been alliance but goddamn if I could have stoneform on an undead
I’d be an undead warrior by now
tribal wharf
i didnt go horde till 2019
novel comet
Mind if I get some feedback on this setup? Still feel a little squishy in +9 keys and above. Is there anything I can do aside from the obvious stuff like ilvl upgrades and getting BIS items? (Necklack just wont drop for me!)
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/area-52/stastro
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/mountain-thane/DAPAVVBRFUgUVCWFBUBRNVVFEVQRFVZVUQCUEEFVVUCQQ
jagged gust
Cmon guys, I came to the prot tab to get away from the guys crying about fury...
My average fury channel experience
jagged gust
Honestly I don't think I'm liberal enough with the blocks
wicked pollen
i havent blocked anyone because its less fun
honestly idk how im not blocked by more
i flame the shit out of people and call them stupid
chrome lance
wicked pollen
give a log
novel comet
I'll have to log some runs tonight.
wicked pollen
realistically if you keep shield block up and dont turn your back
you should never fall
chrome lance
Always Be Blocking: ABB
wicked pollen
i want to see how bad i did today in my 11
novel comet
realistically if you keep shield block up and dont turn your back
I'm pretty sure my SB uptime is good.
wicked pollen
let me upload from my phone so we can all laugh it
novel comet
I died yesterday in a 9 Siege from some random shit where I was clean out of cooldowns. I dont like blaming the healer but I do wanna see what I could've done to prevent it
But I get caught up in the moment a lot.
wicked pollen
what part of the dungeon was it
novel comet
what part of the dungeon was it
the monkeys just before you go up the stairs before 3rd boss
wintry gate
the monkeys just before you go up the stairs before 3rd boss
yeah the ones at the end if you pull a bunch has a chance to wipe if you don’t have defensives. They rip thru IP
wicked pollen
Siege has some pulls that'll 100-0 you without mitigation
its mainly this
but if you arent getting dispelled
wintry gate
Just have close to full IP and shield block up at all times
wicked pollen
hten its kinda not your fault
wintry gate
I have dark iron dwarf so I can dispel myself and get extra strength when dispelling but it’s a fat 3 min cd
wintry gate
Def feel the gear could use work though
every new pull if you have shield charge available, do shield charge into ignore pain (you’ll get shield block from shield charge) then shield slam into ignore pain and then thunderclap to try to rest shield slam
then if at that point if your still good on IP, spend rage on shield block to keep it going
mighty valley
if you've got literally everything you can wait on shield charge til everything's grouped and been hit with demo shout
novel comet
every new pull if you have shield charge available, do shield charge into ignore...
Def will try this tonight.
I think that I underutilize Shield Charge
wicked pollen
novel comet
Is there a go-to Prot War streamer I can watch?
wintry gate
I think that I underutilize Shield Charge
I made a weak aura for it to glow when usable. It’s a free like 7 seconds of shield block, and it’s like what, 20-40 rage? Can’t remember
novel comet
I made a weak aura for it to glow when usable. It’s a free like 7 seconds of shi...
Gonna make a nice custom WA with Shield Block timer, Shield Charge and IP reminder.
wintry gate
Is there a go-to Prot War streamer I can watch?
Not trying to self plug but when I stream it’s only prot, im leveling a blood dk on the side but not on stream. 2500 io and doing 10s mostly
novel comet
I use another SB timer right now (the blue shield that depletes) but I wanna add a little sound effect that procs when SB is getting close to falling off.
I did that with Rend as arms, now I never miss a rend refresh
wintry gate
Otherwise yoda does prot sometimes, dorki is good to watch
novel comet
Not trying to self plug but when I stream it’s only prot, im leveling a blood dk...
DM me your link
violet ginkgo
protcake also fun sometimes
fervent fiber
does it matter which piece of gear we put duskthread on?
currently have it on boots
wicked pollen
whichever sims the highest
faint swift
is playing blackrock depth worth it any good loot?
rocky crest
anyone getting insane dmg when doing dawnbreaker ( when beam starts ) even if I wasn't near the line I got 1 shotted 10 min hp
inland raft
ok, my gold is getting tight, whats a good community to join for boosting? lol
fervent fiber
anyone getting insane dmg when doing dawnbreaker ( when beam starts ) even if I ...
yup - gotta pop a personal
inland raft
yes the start is also a tank buster
fervent fiber
spell reflect/spell block etc
rocky crest
amongst the great
fervent fiber
its fucked up for sure - cuz it hits even if you arent on the beam
feels like its a bug ngl
inland raft
its intended that is why only hits tank
wintry gate
anyone getting insane dmg when doing dawnbreaker ( when beam starts ) even if I ...
I have like 3 mill ignore pain, then use spell reflect and it takes it all away and does like 20% dmg, shit is insane
fervent fiber
yeah i know its intended but it feels jank
rocky crest
aye same here
I save demo shout and spell reflect for it
with stacked ip
or sw with spell
but it's as said above, feels like a bug
smashes too hard in 12's
inland raft
its pretty standard for a tank buster. wall > spell block covers 2 > wall > last stand/demo > external > wall
turbid shuttle
you get intermission also to bring back CDs
so it's usually wall > spell block covers 2 > intermission > wall > spell block covers 2 > dead
and you can reflect every one for a free 25% DR
stone moat
ok, my gold is getting tight, whats a good community to join for boosting? lol
… you find something?
rocky crest
thought it would be more beneficial to reflect her shadow bolts
for that sweet extra dmg
deft mortar
I can't even buy gold
I only repair and buy cheapest sfuff
If I could buy gold, that'd be sick
smoky anvil
Last stand/SR has been a comfy combo for some tank busters as well.
smoky anvil
Tend to send demo by itself.
deft mortar
U can also stack rage and spam IP with SF
3M IP with SF is like a secret last stand alternative
Don't forget Front Line potion as well if u time it well
thick cairn
probably dumb, but champion track swarmlords > hero track quickwick candlestick yea?
inner wren
Quickwick is pretty good
Unless you desparately need the haste from swarm lords I’d use quickwick
deft mortar
Can u remind me what quick wick does
thick cairn
Well good thing I asked
deft mortar
Stength good zug zug
jagged gust
Don't forget Front Line potion as well if u time it well
Front line potion?
deft mortar
Lasts 6 secs. Gives ya 1 stack of 3k armor and 2% max hp. Every hit you get gives you another stack and increases duration by one second up to 15 seconds and 10 stacks total
Gives ya like 30k armor and 20% max hp once capped out
I use it for big pulls in M+
jagged gust
Oh dang, I had no idea about tank potions
jagged gust
30k armor has to be a hella str buff too
deft mortar
Oh dang, I had no idea about tank potions
We haven't had any for so longlol
deft mortar
30k armor has to be a hella str buff too
Oh yeah I forgot that. Phatt 1.2k str
real fossil
Just click them
pastel geyser
yeah?.. lol
real fossil
It’s only once every 5min
deft mortar
Open your inventory
jagged gust
38 keybinds and counting!
inner wren
Hell no
pastel geyser
macro it into avatar
deft mortar
I got like 2k Frontline potions
inner wren
Macro into avatar sounds even more cursed
smoky anvil
Control and shift modifiers are a path to button presses some would consider… unnatural.
inner wren
I’m gonna untalent stormbolt and then tell my pubs warrior discord said to do it so I can pot
deft mortar
At this point I am so used to it as a oh shit button that I consider it a CD
Stormbolt goes hard
I am so used to stunning over using interrupts that I get raged
For my low interrupts
Like bro chill you interrupt a rando bolt I was gonna reflect anyway + you are playing augment
smoky anvil
You’ve got scroll wheels, mouse buttons, shift and control modifiers. Can’t relate with anyone saying they outta buttons ong.
waxen orbit
^
jagged gust
Keeping a caster stun locked for nearly their entire health bar should count
waxen orbit
Ctrl, alt, shift
deft mortar
You’ve got scroll wheels, mouse buttons, shift and control modifiers. Can’t rela...
I used to have a pedal from racing games bindes
waxen orbit
Thats 4 action bars right there
deft mortar
Binded*
smoky anvil
Alt is awkward for me.
buoyant lintel
thoguhts on using m4/m5 for shift/ctrl modifiers?
smoky anvil
Don’t use it.
waxen orbit
Just use your left thumb
smoky anvil
thoguhts on using m4/m5 for shift/ctrl modifiers?
I use both.
And then with modifiers.
deft mortar
My SC is Alt-T
jagged gust
I use shift and alt MDS, ctrl is the weird one for me
real fossil
You use the mouse button as the modifier?
buoyant lintel
yea
deft mortar
I used to have an Alt-F4 keybind in TBC when I started
smoky anvil
No, the mouse button and then the button with a shift and control modifier.
deft mortar
I thought my computer just crashed
real fossil
Wild. I use mouse buttons & shift+MB as like oh shit buttons
Health pot, health stone, etc
buoyant lintel
pressing ctrl/alt is kinda annoying so i put them on my mouse
shift is pretty easy to press
mighty valley
i put pot on the left button of my dance dance revolution mat under the table
buoyant lintel
harrowing
bitter zealot
Curious did they nerf rage generation? Or did i just because super bad at managing it today(pretty likely)
trail cairn
Quick question,
Why are people going crit focus for raid and vers focus for high keys?
atomic elm
which two of these should i use, pls halp fellow woyers
errant arrow
which two of these should i use, pls halp fellow woyers
Sacbrood
atomic elm
yes but which other one
buoyant lintel
Do u want more mitigation or damage and 100str
atomic elm
would the swarmgland at 6/6 hero be more tanky than the meat hook at 6/6 myth?
buoyant lintel
are you utilizing the slow from meat hook?
atomic elm
not really
past sedge
pretty surprised there has been no prot warr nerfs
bitter zealot
Tuning is next reset so could happen
turbid shuttle
tank balance is healthy. they don't need to change much
high wyvern
If they nerf tanks anymore there will be about 6 tanks players left for M+
bitter zealot
Brew could use some love out of all tanks imo
Don't nerf just buff the "lower" tanks
You'd think blizzard would want to make tanking more attractive
mighty valley
Quick question,
Why are people going crit focus for raid and vers focus for high...
the theory is that at the very highest keys, you just want more flat dr% to be able to survive tankbusters that would otherwise one-shot you. but honestly a lot of those decisions are made based on feelycraft and the most important thing is just good play and having a good team anyway
chrome lance
Feelycraft is best kinda craft.
turbid shuttle
in raid living is not a real constraint, and crit gives more damage. in m+, defensively crit and vers are both good, crit is better numerically, but crit only applies to stuff you're already strong against whereas vers helps against your weaknesses too.
jagged gust
Feelcraft indeed
past sedge
So theoretically if you are a god at monk tank you could do title keys
Just trying to see how much of a limit there is with tanks balancing
turbid shuttle
there are monk tanks today doing title keys
wicked pollen
all tanks are viable
turbid shuttle
there's usually a 1-2 key level difference between the best tank class and the worst
jagged pier
theres a monk in the top 20 tanks in the world
jagged gust
who's better off tanking feast/liquify between a bear/dk? My 2nd team is struggling
I imagine you want bear for the feast and dk for the liquify
broken light
any insights on ansurek ring? have 626 on vault rn
broken light
hmm
jagged gust
losing haste on a ring slot feels really bad with S1 stats, but you still take it
lusty grotto
losing haste means nothing
you take all the cantrip items from raid, no questions asked
jagged gust
^
lusty grotto
more so one that interacts with Thane