How's earthen as a race going? Anyone rocking it? š
#protection
chrome lance
placid hawk
Just got Reactive Webbed Escutcheon shield from delve slot. Is this rare?
soft tusk
Just got Reactive Webbed Escutcheon shield from delve slot. Is this rare?
No stamina.
kind urchin
I was fighting doomwalker and had a thunder blast crit for 141 mil. I think they made an oopsie on his scaling.
carmine plover
any word on whether the brm trinkets are any good?
placid hawk
No stamina.
Ahhh
deft mortar
No stamina ewww
God damn it blizz
Give me 20k stamina trinkets
I just wanna be a meatball
I should probably play BDK instead given my autism
I'll slowly level one on the side
soft tusk
You are one of those "pick me" arent you?
buoyant lintel
i think thats a normie insult
void wadi
what to choose?
deft mortar
What's ur equipped
deft mortar
Mm that ring sorta goes hard ngl
remote tusk
mark
soft tusk
what to choose?
Mark if u don't have Shard
wraith stirrup
How are we dealing with the affix Ascendant?
Intimidating shout > Menace?
Disrupting shout?
ruby scarab
How much haste do we need before we can use into the fray?
deft mortar
How are we dealing with the affix Ascendant?
Intimidating shout > Menace?
Disru...
Is that the one that u gotta interrupt?
Just get a Retri to do the shiny thing lol
wraith stirrup
Interupt like 10 orbs ye
Just ran one where no one helped. Too spread apart for shockwave. It would only hit 80-90% of them
deft mortar
Yikes I guess u could talent for disrupt and Shockwave etc.
muted arch
what would you guys take? trinket would replace heroic track sacbrood
deft mortar
But I think we tight on points idk
fierce skiff
is the Skamorak Shard good for Prot?
sturdy fog
Anyone tank heroic BRD yet?
remote tusk
You only replace hero Sac with Myth Sac
muted arch
thanks
next axle
Question, in Raid do you find going less vers and more crit is better? For context: In dungeons I am more Haste/Vers stacked, wondering if Haste/Crit better in raid.
inner wren
how many crests do you get a week bros i need these t2 sets
i need a guide or some shit for all of this
remote tusk
There is one on Wowhead
royal rune
tawdry cloak
have myth hands and legs alr, trinkets are myth skarmorak shard and hero sacbrood, already have hero track helm, and crafted weap. I'm thinking its a socket for this vault?
void wadi
thx i think i'll take mark too
inner wren
have myth hands and legs alr, trinkets are myth skarmorak shard and hero sacbroo...
myth trinket
tawdry cloak
myth pactstone over hero sacbrood? I've already upgraded sacbrood past that so its not even a crest save
deft mortar
kinda thinking of just randomly race changing to dracthyr
What's even their racials
I semi wanna check out earthen to see if the 10% armor shit is real
sacred flare
is there anything good out of the brd for prot
rain light
alright I did a million dawnbreakers last week, lets see a ring in my vault
sharp gale
alright I did a million dawnbreakers last week, lets see a ring in my vault
Back in SL I did for a week only plaguefall 15, no I did not have a plaguefall item in vault
past tartan
rain light
yikes another terrible vault
past tartan
would I take the hero cloak over myth bracers?
sharp gale
would I take the hero cloak over myth bracers?
If you hope you will drop the cloak in pug or guild raid
rich pulsar
No haste options which is a bummer, think I'll just take the belt for ilvl. Not sure if I should cata for haste/mast or just keep crit/vers. Anyone know if I start getting into haste DR, is it worth swapping to another stat or just keep it stacking
sharp gale
No haste options which is a bummer, think I'll just take the belt for ilvl. Not ...
I guess you already have myth track shoulders?
We are not in heavy DR territory in first patch of expansions
sharp gale
Yall NA mfs opening vaults
5h
But the maintenance is not at the same time as reset for us so thatās a plus for me
rich pulsar
I guess you already have myth track shoulders?
Yeah have myth crit/haste shoulders. Literally my only myth slot as I missed the first two weeks
deft mortar
But the maintenance is not at the same time as reset for us so thatās a plus for...
Yeah tru
sharp gale
I canāt imagine having maintenance at 6-7-8-9 am when I want to open my vault before going to Uni
low spindle
what do i do? currently using silkran and ara- hero trinkets and i have heroic Boe boots , do i go for the myth void pacstone? Mandate? or the myth boots?
winged grail
kinda thinking of just randomly race changing to dracthyr
it was designed to make you think that, it has it everywhere plus race change on sale rn
I personally miss being able to fix mistakes like fall dmg
toxic pewter
on sale you say...
winged grail
yeah I think it was 30% off or something
herioc leap if aimed right will save you
but its not near as easy as just pressing space
sharp gale
Yeah have myth crit/haste shoulders. Literally my only myth slot as I missed the...
I would take the belt, and for catalyst it or not, depends on how many charges you have
Only 1 I would not
raw parcel
I did
winged grail
big dam
deft mortar
Maybe he likes the race aesthetics (impossible)
sharp gale
Impossible messire
winged grail
oi
deft mortar
Elune will smite you
sharp gale
Gnome traitor for not picking gnome
winged grail
Gnome traitor for not picking gnome
best compliment anyones ever gave me
deft mortar
(I'm an orc warr)
winged grail
I went horde to justify not picking dwarf
sharp gale
(I'm an orc warr)
Green or Red ?
winged grail
transmogs are 50% of it
inner wren
@toxic pewter bro i swawpped to dracthyr
i think its bugged you dont get the cool wings when you glide in visage form
rich pulsar
I would take the belt, and for catalyst it or not, depends on how many charges y...
kk thanks, yeah I think my plan is to take belt. See if I get neck from raid or craft a 636 one. Depending on my haste number after that, I'll maybe cata. I was so close to 0 pieces without mast lol
toxic pewter
wings only in dragon form
inner wren
looks nice tho
toxic pewter
when u not in dragon some weird levrtiating bubbles beneeath ur feet
inner wren
glide and wing buffet are šÆ
toxic pewter
or some crap
is the racial 2% mastery right
also can you tell me if when u are in visage form it increases your partys health regen whenn out of combat
winged grail
I knew you were sus
sharp gale
What is that
winged grail
everyone point and shame
sharp gale
I should post my ff14 character then
inner wren
also can you tell me if when u are in visage form it increases your partys healt...
does it show up as a buff on em
toxic pewter
i dunno
inner wren
inner wren
toxic pewter
ok interesting so it does work for non evokers too cool
winged grail
does it force you into dragon form for any ability?
im evoker main, I gave up trying to use visage
raw parcel
You mainly play prot or not ? Just curious on why
It's my main, yes.
You aren't forced into dragon form unless you wanna use soar.
sharp gale
Why the change ? For the stops ?
inner wren
cuz theyre qt af
sharp gale
I donāt know, the 2 stops are better than the purge ? Idk
novel comet
Thoughts on these stats for Prot? 618 equipped ilvl.
cerulean vessel
I havenāt been keeping up with the news, do they still have the double jump/glide for non-evokers?
sharp gale
I havenāt been keeping up with the news, do they still have the double jump/glid...
Yes they just donāt have the speed boost of glide, you still are faster
If I remember
lofty warren
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/races/castingpatchwerk dragon isn't even on sims
wtf
cerulean vessel
Sick, now I donāt know when this may come up but can they block while gliding lol
deft raptor
so was thane ever buffed for warrior this last week or was it implemented at some point but then reverted?
deft mortar
They buffed thane dmg nerfed thane rage gain
sharp gale
It was just last week ?
lofty warren
Where sims and tier lists for best race pwar? I confirmed dragon can be war
whole mesa
how about .05 patch for warrior?
sharp gale
how about .05 patch for warrior?
New icon on spear
lofty warren
there are no pwar changes except for maybe BIS race
bleak breach
whole mesa
is there any new BiS?
sharp gale
is there any new BiS?
Donāt really know, depends if dracthyr stops are that strong
whole mesa
our server will be changed tomorrow~ š¤£
sharp gale
our server will be changed tomorrow~ š¤£
I didnāt get it sryā¦
inner wren
every week i kill sikran
soft bloom
for me dracthyr sims worse than human but maybe not implemented
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hKVoWezhHQeTRcrgm6hF9o
inner wren
every week no neck
lofty warren
I want to race race to dragon
inner wren
HOLY DOGSHIT
whole mesa
i am just expecting patch
tepid arch
Whatās the best race for horde mythics? Iām Tauren today
sharp gale
I have race change available
gnome
lofty warren
no. its either dragon if its best or stay dwarf
But I cant even find any tier list or sims or nothing saying which is best
deft mortar
Bro ur warband is cursed
barren oar
were there dungeon changes with update? siege felt like it had big tank dam
sharp gale
were there dungeon changes with update? siege felt like it had big tank dam
Nothing changed
sharp gale
It does have big tank dmg but itās fine you def cd you donāt get os like animaslahed
The adds that does that
sharp gale
Yes itās just on pull you wall they die, itās really fine
distant gorge
weapon or boots?
sinful cloud
Void pacstone junk? Would replace the larynx. Either that or mythic track tier gloves
sharp gale
weapon or boots?
Just to give you more info, these boots are bis (catalyst and uncatalysted)
sinful cloud
Also is it worth just cracking 636 shield and 1h then just opening vault as arms/fury?
sharp gale
Also is it worth just cracking 636 shield and 1h then just opening vault as arms...
You already opened your vault ? Is there myth track slots, do you plan to have myth track slots soon, itās more strategy than 1 real straight answer
If you plan to have myth tracks in vault, 3 slots ? 2 ? 1 ? Because you will have to wait a weapon and a shield to pop in vault to have it 636+
rotund fractal
What's a good CPM and Uptime % for both Ignore Pain and Shield Block? My friend started playing Prot Warr recently and we're both realizing that he's taking a lot of damage.
We did a "SIEGE +10 weekly no leaver" a few hours ago (EU so reset is on Wednesday) where he had 40.94% uptime on Shield Block (Details said 50%, not sure why Warcraft Logs shows it as lower) and 57.99% on Ignore Pain. CPM for Shield Block was 2.3 and 8.5 for Ignore Pain.
sacred quartz
99% shield block, 90-95% ip is where im usually at
pallid quiver
What's a good CPM and Uptime % for both Ignore Pain and Shield Block? My friend ...
Neither of those are good metrics, of uptime of both, but IP cpm is usually double that
agile elbow
Twitter
pallid quiver
You really want to log so you can see how many melee hits are being blocked, since you should be blocking at least 95% of all attacks coming in, aiming for 100%
pallid quiver
https://x.com/Archimtiros/status/1848832542524510456
He also said it's updated in the updates channel
so before doom posting, please consider that
sharp gale
What's a good CPM and Uptime % for both Ignore Pain and Shield Block? My friend ...
I usually 4 cpm on Shield block and 20 on IP
agile elbow
Not doom posting, just was passing along info. Thanks for letting me know about the update though.
pallid quiver
Not doom posting, just was passing along info. Thanks for letting me know about ...
Yeah, it was more a warning for others seeing it
forest lodge
did anything change for our prot raid builds?
pallid quiver
I had a feeling that was just the newest you saw
pallid quiver
did anything change for our prot raid builds?
No, no build changes
rotund fractal
@pallid quiver @flat cargo I have the logs for that run if either of you wants to take a look and see if you can figure out what exactly is going wrong.
Granted we were all a bit low-ish ilvl for this run and I was on my Resto Shammy alt which I don't know how to play properly yet (I main Holy Pala) so that could have also played some part.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vtMgyWA4B8fn2zp3#fight=last&type=summary
sharp gale
Not doom posting, just was passing along info. Thanks for letting me know about ...
Someone posted it was fixed
sharp gale
Im reposting his screenshot I donāt know his source
agile elbow
Someone posted it was fixed
š
deft mortar
What's a good CPM and Uptime % for both Ignore Pain and Shield Block? My friend ...
That's so bad wtf
sharp gale
That's so bad wtf
Learn to be gentle Messire
deft mortar
U can smash keys and get 95% uptime
sacred quartz
Dont need to see logs, it's the ip and SB uptime
rotund fractal
From a healer's perspective, I personally feel that the issue is his Shield Block not being up as much as it should be (I use Cell so I can see when a tank's AM is up and sometimes I see that it isn't when he's taking a lot of melee hits).
pallid quiver
The data is coming from a no leaver log, so there's likely lots of log downtime as a warning
rotund fractal
The data is coming from a no leaver log, so there's likely lots of log downtime ...
This. It was kind of a disastrous run, we were 30 minutes over the timer.
sacred quartz
And ur about 130+ k hps from where im usually at lower, 50% ip will do that
rotund fractal
So what kind of pointers should I give him? Just "use more IP and SB"?
icy flax
Any changes?
rough agate
Is there a point where you can have too much haste for m+? I have about 52% fully buffed but my crit is suffering. Not sure if it hits a point it's not as viable or it's just full haste goes brrr
pallid quiver
So, more specifically, he only blocked about 70% hits overall, which is pretty dismal. Giving that advice is usually detrimental, actually, since it moves focus onto the wrong things
buoyant lintel
Have him monitor his logs for blocked melee
pallid quiver
Is there a point where you can have too much haste for m+? I have about 52% full...
Tenchnically yes, but with the stat amounts available in S1, we won't hit drs that matter enough
sharp gale
Any changes?
Beautiful isnāt it ?
rough agate
Tenchnically yes, but with the stat amounts available in S1, we won't hit drs th...
Awesome ty!
pallid quiver
So what kind of pointers should I give him? Just "use more IP and SB"?
He's also absolutely underusing his defensive CDs, since he had 16 casts of Shield Wall overall
deft mortar
Learn to be gentle Messire
Ure sight my bad
Tell that tank to macro shield block to every ability
Maybe that'll increase his uptime
Wait was that someone here
If so sorry I thought we're talking about a 3rd person
sharp gale
Maybe that'll increase his uptime
It is a no leaver, uptime will be disastrous
deft mortar
They made me solo SoB last boss at a Mythic 5 the other day on a no leaver because everyone died
The boss dot ticks couldn't get passed 2nd wind
rotund fractal
Wait was that someone here
Talking about my friend. He's a dad gamer though so cut him some slack. Not as young and spry as the rest of us.
sharp gale
In fact I can give him macro to lower his cpm
You want The Button macro ?
pallid quiver
So what kind of pointers should I give him? Just "use more IP and SB"?
I can't check his talents on mobile; if he has Into the Fray, could you ask your friend to use Heavy Repercussions instead?
Your friends biggest issues is not sending his CDs on CD and oversending on revenge. He only has 20 casts of Shield Charge, but you were in there for almost an hour. Shield Charge gives a use of shield block, so
deft mortar
#showtooltip Shield Slam /cast Shield Block /cast Shield Slam should do it
Hell add it to TC too
pallid quiver
He's casting more revenge than he should, since he's casting it more than thunder blast and thunder clap it looked like at a glance, which can hurt a bit
deft mortar
You want The Button macro ?
Ngl I have that on a rando keybind as a panic button
But I have all my defensive separetly blinded obv
pallid quiver
He's actually doing fairly decent and using IP from what I saw to rage dump; for all the rage he generated, he only wasted 400 rage, which is actually pretty good for a fairly casual player
If the key was timed, that'd probably only be like 200 wasted
sharp gale
Ngl I have that on a rando keybind as a panic button
Smart move to have a nuclear cd def button
rotund fractal
I can't check his talents on mobile; if he has Into the Fray, could you ask your...
I'll screenshot this advice so I remember to ask him about it tomorrow. It's 3 AM here so he's been asleep for a while now I think. š
pallid quiver
I can't look too much more since I have to go back to work, but feel free to DM me, Carp, and I can give even more in-depth and follow ups when I get home
rotund fractal
Thank you so much Luerce. I might be asleep (or awake and opening my vault) by then hehe. You've all been a great help!
deft mortar
Actually now that I think if he has very low haste
He might be clicking SB every CD and have low uptime
True
sharp gale
Actually now that I think if he has very low haste
I donāt think haste is the issue
inner wren
bros brd is harder than nerubar
sharp gale
bros brd is harder than nerubar
You overgear it 15 more ilvl than you should how could it be harder
inner wren
because its harder
winged grail
you think yoda just pushing on his pally rn for views?
since new change today
he just cleared and beat his best pwarr time
frigid spire
is playing dracthyr better for prot warrior over dwarf now?
edgy cairn
What should I use to sim as tank, first time playing it
sharp gale
you think yoda just pushing on his pally rn for views?
He beats his old views because everyone is curious on wtf is going on and half of players are still in 11.0.2
winged grail
is playing dracthyr better for prot warrior over dwarf now?
I dont think theres any logical reason to play dracthyr lol
sharp gale
New patch new views
winged grail
He beats his old views because everyone is curious on wtf is going on and half o...
yeah its just crazy i've never seen him on his pally and all of a sudden he's clearing everything with faster times today
im sure its dps buffs also
sharp gale
is playing dracthyr better for prot warrior over dwarf now?
DĆ©pends if dracthyr stops are that strong
tranquil socket
Knowledgeable gentlemen, shield has speed on it. I have 636 crafted shield? Every piece would be upgrade besides shield (until upgraded max)
icy flax
dont take shield
sharp gale
dont take shield
What can he take lol
Or maybe you donāt have gloves already, take the gloves if not
valid bridge
does it matter which quality storm dust we use when we're crafting the enchanted crests?
sharp gale
does it matter which quality storm dust we use when we're crafting the enchanted...
There are no ranks in enchanted crests
So you donāt care about mat quality
edgy cairn
does it matter which quality storm dust we use when we're crafting the enchanted...
doesnt matter
hollow wind
Is the Siphoning Lightbrand smash or pass? sim shows -1.3% dps dungeonslice but idk if it sims right
mighty valley
if two gear choices are close you might as well sim
tranquil socket
Or maybe you donāt have gloves already, take the gloves if not
TY, went with gloves. Was using tier shoulders and replaced those with better stats and catalyzed gloves to keep 4 set
sick current
why do I feel weaker
i was doing 11's like nobodies business
now i am getting trucked in 10's
any1 know whats up?
inner wren
skill issue
inner wren
worse pugs in 10s
sharp gale
I Like being trucked, maybe more info on what being trucked means
sharp gale
anyone know much about Swarmlords Authority?
Swarmlord is a really good def trinket for m+
fluid widget
champion spear is so fucking ugly š¦
agile elbow
Fort week @sick current
sick current
AHHHHH
well
no
i was doing an 11
and 10
yesterday and today
so i had both anyways
unborn raptor
Any of the BRD trinkets looking promising for prot at all?
fervent fiber
how often are you guys swapping to battle stance in progression content
fluid widget
i dont think 3% crit is going to be why prog fails imo
unborn raptor
I don't use battle stance ever, dmg reduc is too good imo
stacking crit anyway, and the 3% extra doesn't go to our parry
sharp gale
I battle stance when I donāt prog
fervent fiber
i dont think 3% crit is going to be why prog fails imo
what? lmao - not at all what i asked
i mention prog cuz who cares about farm - can go full battle
fervent fiber
im not saying im failing - im just curious if anyone is swapping
sharp gale
It should go to your parry
It doesnt
fervent fiber
id swap WAY more if there wasnt a 3 sec cd
but as it is rn, im swapping only when its like dead dead obvious i can swap and im not at risk at all
sharp gale
Ofc but like ovinax donāt think to be in battle to help kill these adds
urban portal
Swap battle hit swap defensive
fervent fiber
not every key but yeah - shit like execute
sharp gale
I think you can full battle stance on kyv
fluid widget
what? lmao - not at all what i asked
i mention prog cuz who cares about farm - ...
yeah that's what I'm saying though. if its prog, its safer to just be in defensive stance because 3% crit chance for the prot warrior isn't going to make or break the raid but 16% damage reduction may be
onyx moon
HOJ is bis?
fervent fiber
yeah that's what I'm saying though. if its prog, its safer to just be in defensi...
i mostly do m+
which i think changes things
feel like theres tons of spots where i COULD be changing
thats why i initially asked
urban portal
You said prog content which makes most people think itās raid
Because in m+ whatās high/low for you may not be the same for others
fervent fiber
thats why i called it prog
urban portal
FYI playing the entire key in bstance probably shaves 10 seconds off the key if that
toxic pewter
fervent fiber
i can do 8s and under in battle stance for the most part
urban portal
While in defensive you can maybe pull 1 more mob
fervent fiber
but not in 10s+ obviously
fervent fiber
ok i see what you mean
yeah then its probably not somethign worth considering unless its obvious
violet ginkgo
How good is this for tank actually? Because the secondary stat seems way lower than the normal ring.
unborn raptor
Yeah, i'd rather add another pack to my pull than use battle for a measly 3% crit
toxic pewter
How good is this for tank actually? Because the secondary stat seems way lower t...
dunno but i assume its a tank ring
i mean why would a hunter want that
novel comet
o.O that seems solid. Wheres it drop
fluid widget
brd raid
pallid hare
Does anyone have a recommendation as to what I should drop to pick up bolster. I'm thinking bloodsurge, but figured i woudl ask the crew (trying to ensure I have 100% SB uptime)
south zealot
dunno but i assume its a tank ring
its not a tank ring
it procs from hitting enemies too
south zealot
Does anyone have a recommendation as to what I should drop to pick up bolster. I...
play hr instead of into the fray
if youre worried about sb uptime
pallid hare
play hr instead of into the fray
Thanks, I have been using HR but am trying to make the swap. The build above is my end goal but thought I could use bolster as a training tool in case my SB uptime slips for whatever reason
fluid widget
i wonder what the proc chance is
pallid hare
I have the HR set down (most +12s completed) so just trying to make the transition into proper content š
Do you know the aprox breakpoint for when I shoudl be able to maintain 100% uptime with ItF? I'm sitting at 22% right now
south zealot
like 20k haste unbuffed
lone eagle
mathematically
marble sundial
my logs fucked up or am i just SHIT
unborn sable
do i just take any myth 1h? twice in a row mythic raid vault was Sikran's trinket š
lone eagle
Evoker mastery racial, where does it land compared to other racials
pallid hare
like 20k haste unbuffed
awesome, thank you for the help
undone moat
anyone try out these two trinks i have in my vault? know if either are better than void pactstone?
raw parcel
Can you benefit from both mushrooms in Mists? Or just one?
lofty warren
just 1 pretty sure
if you catalysis an item with an enchant do you lose the enchant?
twilit delta
blizz wants me to have some trinkets... has anyone tried the pactstone? im currently using hero swarmguard and sacbrood + leech. pactstone in vault is also coming with leech. myth sacbrood clear winner - question mark...
twilit delta
its hero, 626
undone moat
blizz wants me to have some trinkets... has anyone tried the pactstone? im curre...
i'm using packstone, its like 1% of my dmg
twilit delta
hows the haste proc uptime?
twilit delta
ty, appreciate the info
twilit delta
How much leech I wonder
pactstone coming with 603 leech at 623, my sacbrood has 613 at 626
toxic pewter
this any good? just won it
quasi cliff
wondering if taht will be decent or the otherone that absorbs and does damage
maybe nagelring?
deft mortar
pactstone coming with 603 leech at 623, my sacbrood has 613 at 626
Dang ain't that almost 1%
I wish I had leech on all my pieces
Imagine smth like 25% leech
You could run colossus
I mean u still can but
It'd be diff
twilit delta
went with the myth sacbrood, more haste is better than less š lol
deft mortar
Zug zug choice
near pewter
Does spell block work for savage assault on Rashan'nan?
near pewter
thanks
rain bone
hello warrior discord, do we also have bugs with the new patch? my pally has a few, my rshammy healer has a few.
alpine adder
sikrans trinket is ass right
deft mortar
hello warrior discord, do we also have bugs with the new patch? my pally has a f...
we may, but we also have 55% armor and that aint bugged
rain bone
oh?
muted arch
anyone here tanked mythic brood out of curiousity?
deft mortar
Sry I am just yappin
inner wren
damn hitting that beautiufl haste breakpoint to swap to itf feels great
flat saddle
Hello fellow warriors. Guild is currently progging heroic Queen Ansurek....might be a stupid question. Can I leap over the Nova every time without causing the raid to take extra damage or do I also need to get into the ring soak?
waxen orbit
Just leap into the ring soak
stone moat
waxen orbit
Also I haven't been in Siege in 2 weeks
Forgot about the tug thing still being on the mobs after 1st boss
Walked with one into the firing squad
same second it pulled the entire group into the line of death
murdered the entire group
I have become that which I flame
It's Joever
severe moon
Hello fellow warriors. Guild is currently progging heroic Queen Ansurek....might...
Need to soak
oak ivy
Does ITF sim properly for patchwerk
I showed a 9% increase in dslice for Sikran Neck and a 3% loss for Patchwerk
lone eagle
anyone here tanked mythic brood out of curiousity?
Ye, should kill tomorrow although we could have killed thursday last week
and if we didn't lose 3 hours of M prog first mythic week to blizzard not being able to keep Area 52 up...
if running Pwar I recommend running 3 tanks 3 heals
lament zealot
If I have a crafted wep and shield I should be opening vault in fury right?
half loom
Have a Vault question for you guys. From that I gather, my best options are Tier hands or Shield. Both of what I'm wearing pretty much suck. The tier hands will NOT give me 4pc only 3. I know the shield is dungeon BIS not overall. Appreciate any thoughts/recommendations.
trim hamlet
Hmm should i take the heroic queen's mandate or a mythic chest/legs
deep hill
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trim hamlet
currently using a 626 mark of khadros
deft mortar
AIT VAULT TIME
barren oar
yes
twin snow
if you don't have 4 set id go Sureki Zelot's Insignia
barren oar
4 set isnt even that valuable
twin snow
yea true, its only a bit of dmg
rough egret
I have 4 set yes
twin snow
then get the neck my G
barren oar
4sure neck. gz too
twin snow
Now I wonder if I should get the mythic pants or rare cloak
barren oar
whats bigger ilvl? legs can catalyze and will have a lot of haste after
twin snow
already gave set legs (Heroic) and a heroic cloak aswell - porbaply the best to just do the 4th boss, see if I get it and then decide
barren oar
bigger stat budget on legs than cloak
rough egret
guys.. bit off topic but, shouldnt be here a weekly Q at the table?
since I dinged I saw it only once
twin snow
guys.. bit off topic but, shouldnt be here a weekly Q at the table?
for me there is one: 100 titan disc fragments
twin snow
nope Im just as confused as you are. Maybe you still got a quest in your log with the same objective?
rough egret
is it locked behind TWW campaign?
twin snow
dont quote me on it but I think it is
rough egret
peak pier
plucky wyvern
do i get the raid neck or the dungeon myth track neck with avoidance?
rough quest
is it needed to focus more on vers instead of crit for 14s-15s?
jagged gust
is it needed to focus more on vers instead of crit for 14s-15s?
Skill > stats
rough quest
so no?
jagged gust
nah, vers is a minuscule overall damage reduction, while crit is a minuscule melee damage reduction
Neither of them are making or breaking a key
tender reef
fml
lusty grotto
just finished brd raid heroic
how long is it
wondering if i should queue for it rn but kinda late
plain haven
I already have a 636 crafted shield. For the weekly, should I take a mythic shield (crit and vers) or a mythic tier set (upgrade my heroic one)?
jagged gust
Potential 3 ilvl vs potential 13 ilvl increase
lusty grotto
idk
dim girder
Whats the obvious choice here?
jagged gust
depends on your trinkets currently
dim girder
Arakara Ovinax and SwarAuthority
jagged gust
I'd call it a socket angle
toxic pewter
how long is it
honestly really fun, I enjoyed it more than many other raids lol
they really cooked for this one if i say so myself
world 14
2nd in execution
single healed emperor lol with 10 people
lusty grotto
oh ffs
toxic pewter
its a long raid
ya
pugs not gonna have a great time wiping in there, lmao actually has a decent skill ceiling
but its really well done if i say so myself
u think this any good
jagged gust
pugs not gonna have a great time wiping in there, lmao actually has a decent sk...
If brood has proven anything, standing on top of a marker is too high a skill ceiling for most players
toxic pewter
dude the mechanics in this raid actually no joke
like we had to be on top of our game
jagged gust
damn, gotta run it before they nerf it then
toxic pewter
yah i foresee the 4th boss onward nerfed
4th boss alone gonna wipe groups
what u guys think worth buying with 40 of these
lusty grotto
no idea tbh
swift veldt
literally got all the upgrades i need from my 1st +10 week (ring and a neck) and head has a socket but they are not bis so i guess i have to clear hc 1st overall if i dont kill queen as i pug i'd say haste vers ring will be best here. Any other ideas?
lusty grotto
i just came to the celebration right now cause my raid ended
toxic pewter
but no str
lusty grotto
seems like it could be strong
toxic pewter
ya
lusty grotto
HoJ doesnt seem to be that good
toxic pewter
i wonder how often it procs
toxic pewter
not seeing it on wowhead
toxic pewter
what u mean
lusty grotto
click the green words
on the item
you linked
and you get my link
thats how you check PPM
toxic pewter
oh i see thx
15 ppm + haste
that seems like a good amount O_O
might actually be strong lol
toxic pewter
seems force of will doesnt show up on healing meters so hard to tell how strong it is
unless im missing something
urban portal
u think this any good
it not giving strength kinda sucks and im not sure what the proc rate is on the passive
toxic pewter
force of will 1.5 procs per min
pallid quiver
it should be like a bajillion procs per second
toxic pewter
it not giving strength kinda sucks and im not sure what the proc rate is on the ...
yeah lack of str def not good
urban portal
1.5 ppm on 10 seconds is 15 seconds uptime
not hasted
can be good vs anytime you see 20 shitters i guess
but its not helping you live what actually does damage
lusty grotto
yea
urban portal
the big blasts
lusty grotto
silken chain still shits on it
jagged gust
yeah, the on use defensive might actually find some niche
lusty grotto
you mean from furnace?
it could
its treemouth-like kind of
might actually be solid but yeah
i'd wait on nome's and/or mwahi's assessment
seems decent at first glance though
violet ginkgo
yeah idk its kinda lackluster
what about the heart of roccor?
lusty grotto
sim angle with HoJ
lusty grotto
if there's content available that drops the same track, why make it harder
i havent tried it though so just taking it at face value
sick grotto
I mean sure dont want it to be facerolly tho
toxic pewter
Itās great in my opinion
lusty grotto
of course
toxic pewter
Refreshing
sick grotto
Thats boring af
toxic pewter
This raid a breath of fresh air for me
sick grotto
U tried it?
toxic pewter
Yes completed heroic brd 14th in world
lusty grotto
it still doesnt matter, its an event raid, so it shouldn't be extremely difficult, not at the point of queen ansurek
sick grotto
I mean if its got a heroic title i would kinda be expecting it
To be similar difficulty
soft mason
It's not even mechanically difficult, it's just big numbers, feels like.
toxic pewter
Yah no heroic achievement kinda lame
lusty grotto
i like hard content too you know me apb, but if what the reddit guy says is any true
yeah
thats a tuning thing then zekwarrior
toxic pewter
Yeah I donāt deny itās difficult for the average player
soft mason
Solution: Do bigger numbers, imo.
toxic pewter
Some of the mini bosses in there more difficult than actual bosses in nerub ar
soft mason
Normal felt right, did it with my noob friends no probs.
sick grotto
But yeh good to see its actual content and not just hold w
lusty grotto
i guess ill see if i can try it tomorrow
violet ginkgo
if you need it that bad sure
sick grotto
Nope
Swarmlords is a defensive trinket. Bis is usually orientated around damage trinkets
primal narwhal
It's sacbrood + treacherous transmitter/madqueenmandate for bis isint it
sick grotto
In higher keys it can be handy as a safety net however its miniscule in the grand scheme of things
Full trinket vault
Eh
I think oppressive is ok from memory. Never ran myself did you sim it?
lusty grotto
oh yeah?
which of the 26 guilds are you in
that have killed queen
a myth track mandate
without killing queen
good save
do you have a mark of khardros?
oh i got it week 1
š¤·
solar fiber
how good is the candle from delves
seen yoda still run around with a 619 champion one
prisma echo
Guys am i doing something wrong? Ara Sacrablood is S tier trinket but if i sim it its not dps increase compared to my other shitty trinkets i have. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wZfydSyp6ve77RkGMgbcM9 Do i do sim right?
lusty grotto
your loss, again
say what now
myth track mandate everyone
I OpEnEd My VaULt As PrOt To GeT SwArMLorD BuT iT SuCkEd
who says i have an ego lmao
lusty grotto
projecting ego lmao
south zealot
yikes
south zealot
ur trying to push and 2750?
wary lantern
so angry and its only morning š¦
south zealot
ok and?
south zealot
brother
ur talking about piss io
now ur saying im a nerd
im not even pushing keys
and im almost your io
violet ginkgo
I mean I have a question choco
did you in any case run heroic dungeon after the patch?
south zealot
im not understanding your question
lusty grotto
i think valk means brd
barren oar
Havent seen any dungeon changes and have been told there weren't any but tank dam on siege seemed pretty amplified compared to last week.and even the sear mind spell the beguilers in grim cast was changed to chained mind
violet ginkgo
No Nim hmmmm.... how to put this I run Heroic Stonevault just for a quick weekly reputation, and I felt... heroic just got really though maybe near M0
lusty grotto
oh
south zealot
my reps are still level 8
lusty grotto
interesting
south zealot
or something
spark lichen
folks, i'm sorry to ask this stupid question - i need vault help. I've simmed
choices are: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aC61EtTFGNfXvHqcwtBaDj
- 623 c tier trinket, 0.6% top in sim
- 619 shoulder (13ilvl upgrade), 0.5% sim
- 623 gloves, 0.2% sim
violet ginkgo
If I have to put it into perspective... let's say previously fury war with 590 ilvl entering heroic and fighting boss the boss should just melt after you pop everything right?
Sure there is nerf this and there to slayer this time but... now I am 617, and those monster are not melting from bladestorm.
lusty grotto
going by what both you and 6pence is saying...
ive only done Nerub tonight so
cant comment
oh you mean fury
violet ginkgo
well not fury spesifically but more like I was melting those when I was 590
but now 617 with much better gear that mob is not melting so something change about the scaling maybe?
lusty grotto
how long ago are you comparing it to
south zealot
i think they did buff heroic guneons
violet ginkgo
comparing maybe just 2 weeks ago at least? because I usually just take easy dungeon for the 1500 weekly rep
last week is darkflame so not a fair comparison since darkflame is not on heroic
barren oar
why do I feel weaker
Noticed this in siege today
barren oar
Na
lusty grotto
hmm
rain bone
a lot of classes are bugged rn. coulda been the healer you were running with has some bugs, or warrior has bugs
lusty grotto
well i know valk is
barren oar
My pocket sham said he was healing kore than normal but maybe it was just worse group idk
rain bone
did your pocket sham notice ascendance isnāt aoe healing?
but ya riptide does so much now. i think i was crit for 1.8m lol
shy frost
Anyone know what the best craft Waist is for prot?
barren oar
do you have a log?
I dont log sorry
lusty grotto
well it would help a lot, but i guess we will get more reports on it if its an actual issue
barren oar
Fs. I have been hearing about classes being bugged
lusty grotto
ele shamans š
heavy sparrow
vague badge
how many sparks can we have since this week?
lusty grotto
5
shy frost
@steady karma , do you know what the best craft Waist is for prot?
lusty grotto
archi is mostly in charge of dps specs
not prot
there's only 1 waist
why the question?
shy frost
I saw two different ones, one with a Use to improve speed and another blank
proven plume
how much of a meme is tihs
shy frost
with just stats
shy frost
ugh, no. maybe I should
onyx matrix
how much of a meme is tihs
Kek
lusty grotto
how much of a meme is tihs
sim it
prisma echo
Guys bumping what im doing wrong here:
"Guys am i doing something wrong? Ara Sacrablood is S tier trinket but if i sim it its not dps increase compared to my other shitty trinkets i have. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wZfydSyp6ve77RkGMgbcM9 Do i do sim right?"
lusty grotto
youre simming ST (also 4 mins for some reason?)
paper python
in raidbots where can i edit the gear to sim some vault options?
lusty grotto
for the most part yes
prisma echo
youre simming ST (also 4 mins for some reason?)
what should be corect settings for m+?
prisma echo
its not mine i added it to just simulate what it would do if dropped
lusty grotto
well context is everything
south zealot
Guys bumping what im doing wrong here:
"Guys am i doing something wrong? Ara S...
your gear is bad, damage trinkets better with bad gear
prisma echo
By bad gear you mean low ilvl?
lusty grotto
overall yes
all of the trinkets there are better suited for ST too
corrossive organ for example
prisma echo
Thanks lads! What would be perfect setting for m+ sims?
lusty grotto
and its possible sacbrood isnt contending because it doesnt have main stat, which adds up to what both choco and jakey are saying
low spindle
in wowhead queens mandate is listed as BIS, i reckon that is not the case for M+ right?
probably shard?
lusty grotto
mark of khardros
low spindle
that shits rare haha
sweet summit
shard is more stats over the key surely that is better than mark
low spindle
but seeing 7-10m crit from mandate feels good, sucks that it uses a gcd though
lusty grotto
yeah well the guide has a tier list for all content, so raiding is included, its not key specific
paper python
corrossive organ for example
i literally just simmed me (618ilvl). Got treacheroustransmiter and sacbrood on vault. Raidbots topgear is telling me to get skyterrors. And keep mad queen. Im thinking of keeping mark and choosing treacherous
lusty grotto
it was called beacon
plucky wyvern
Guys i have a choice in vault between necks
plucky wyvern
do i get emergency with avoidance myth track or hero track raid neck?
whole mesa
sureki
twin snow
tons of haste, bit of crit and a 3rd stat with like 50% uptime
lusty grotto
yeah there's no reason to go for keychain in that situation tbh
plucky wyvern
i was just seeing on archon that most prots are wearing key chaing
whole mesa
do i get emergency with avoidance myth track or hero track raid neck?
do you really think about that you can get myth raid track neck? lol
plucky wyvern
and trying to figure out why
lusty grotto
probably because thats what they have dropped for them
plucky wyvern
i mean 3rd boss aint that hard on mythic
sweet summit
neck is better for dps so raid prio dps players for it
lusty grotto
^
whole mesa
i mean 3rd boss aint that hard on mythic
yes, i agree. but lots of people want it too
sweet summit
tanks are not real so they get no gear
lusty grotto
its bis for everyone
terse hollow
shard aint all that for us right? probably just myth tier?
unborn sable
3 weeks no mythic Sikran 1h, should i just upgrade my 619 crafted or take a myth vers/mast 1h from vault?
mild river
lusty grotto
twin snow
thats the haste one, right?
ionic nimbus
Jep
onyx moon
Is raid should I be using the punish or the jugg build?
lusty grotto
depends if youre progging or not
lusty grotto
well then you know your answer
onyx moon
So punish
lusty grotto
at least until you feel you wont die or pressure everyone else
sick grotto
Either is fine as nim said. Just assess your dmg intake. If your doing fine outside of the busters i would run it
onyx moon
Why are many top players picking double shield wall??
Coordinated groups using them for big pulle
Pulls
kindred hearth
@rugged wind sometimes you need two on one pack
rugged wind
So I should start using it too?
vague badge
only if you see a need for it
if you are tanking +3, hell no, you ain't gonna need it
sick grotto
I mean you will get many more shield walls out of impene
It does however make it easier to plan with 2 charges
As you can always essentially have a charge as a backup and plan around 2 its pretty flexible
Having charges your cd will always be rolling more frequently
rugged wind
Also i noticed revenge seem to reduce cds by 1 second or am i tripping?
rugged wind
So even Ignore pain works too?
unborn sable
3 weeks no mythic Sikran 1h, should i just upgrade my 619 crafted or take a myth vers/mast 1h from vault?
rugged wind
Oh ok, then i should probably start spamming that instead of revenge
paper python
any treacherous transmiter users here? are you using it prepull or after charge/leap??
and then cd's
sudden moth
Morning guys! Hope you all had luck with your vault. Should I go for the Ara-Kara trinket in this choice or the Myth tier? My boots are lowest Ilvl but I assume I can just craft them and grab one of the two items
sick grotto
You spend excess rage on ip
If you have no shield slam or thunderclap your revenge on aoe or execute single target
And fish for shield slam resets
Standard warrior stuff
silk trail
should i set my loot spec to dps for better trinkets in vault? or prot has just the same loot table with dps specs?
sick grotto
If your specifically chasing a trinket yes if you dont have a shield i would open prot
sick grotto
I would still open imo but it depends on your gear
You will still get sac brood and shard with prot spec
If your uncertain have a look at the loot obtainable between the dps specs and prot in the dungeon loot guide
harsh mulch
Do I go for refracting? Or is just straight up shit
sweet summit
i would say swarmlords but it is lfr
the other trinket is also poopy and stinky
so i'd go for the 3rd secret option
sweet summit
that ring is crit mast?
harsh mulch
ye high mastery
lusty grotto
ringworm yes
sweet summit
crazy
lusty grotto
but yeah its heroic only so
harsh mulch
It's either trinket if it's worth anything or catalysting the wrists
sweet summit
you can do arakara and sv/gb for an actual trinket instead of giving up a myth piece
shadow basalt
Mad Queens Mandate (Champion) or Mark of Khardros (Heroic) ? (Prot Warrior)
brittle owl
shadow basalt
Id say mark
Thank you for the reasoning! š
tender reef
fml
@strong forum since I saw you, I got the 636 crafted weapon. But I guess this is my 1 shot to a myth weapon, is it worth to push it to 639 ? The trinket is shit.
I think is the only logical solution but it hurts
It hurts too much 
sweet summit
sometimes god gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers or something idk
take the weppy
south sparrow
Is Enchant Weapon - Authority of the Depths really the best enchant? Tooltip for highest rank says 15,655 shadow damage that stacks 3 times. Sounds quite low. My main content is M+ if that makes difference.
polar pebble
How good is this trinket? It doesn't show up on the wowhead guide.
sweet summit
not good enough to show on the guide
polar pebble
š
barren oar
perhaps suboptimal but I like stormriders fury
surreal mural
Any BRD special item worth getting?
barren oar
I wouldnt sacrifice gearscore over any special effect brd stuff
surreal mural
Thats fair, bael'gar trinket looks decent for a defensive trinket at least
jagged gust
some trinkets look like decent sidegrades, the defensive one might have some niche role in high keys
surreal mural
Decent stepping stones while gearing at least
carmine meteor
dont know what to take the ring in the middl rolled with avoid
sweet summit
rare neck no?
sweet summit
hmm... very tough choice..
carmine meteor
i mean the queen ring is really bad for prot no ?
jagged pier
no?
restive oak
nah
jagged pier
its our best ring
carmine meteor
why noone using it then ?
thorn basalt
Boralus Ring on Myth track sounds good too tho
thorn basalt
why noone using it then ?
Cause it's rare
restive oak
this my neck
neck
carmine meteor
okay thx guys much luv <3
thorn basalt
Yeah I'd say neck with your ilvl or maybe the boralus Ring
tender reef
okay thx guys much luv <3
Rare as good pugs
Bro has queen ring, take the neck
Also fuuuu
Bro has 550 blue neck but hero queen ring
Something ain't right
carmine meteor
i got it from 4 myths xd
thorn basalt
i got it from 4 myths xd
tender reef
I need more than 1 but thank you 
tender reef
Oh no wait that gives 2 handers
tender reef
So you're a twink too
old basin
guys
carmine meteor
i want to main prot
old basin
should i use holy bulwalk on cd or should i time it like any other defensive
tender reef
Did we got a new skill?
tender reef
I must have miss skilled
carmine meteor
XDDD
tender reef
Another twink traitor
tender reef
Nice now I don't have to reroll
Already made Pala to 70 but had no time to lvl, but now that he's meta.
Miss me with that shit
sweet summit
good
tender reef
Only bad ones
sweet summit
fuck em
carmine meteor
btw anyone have tips for prot like what % of stats and so on
sweet summit
not a real thing
your stat spread is not important. just get ilvl and prio haste if equal. sim for damage and defensiveness comes with good play. trinkets are jewellery kinda ignore this rule and should be taken as case by case kinda thing
same thing as bis lists, they're also an outdated concept
bis is "only" bis once you have the rest of the bis items
thorn basalt
should i use holy bulwalk on cd or should i time it like any other defensive
If you don't have 100% uptime, you're a bad prot warrior
fading viper
How good is this?
thorn basalt
Defensive trinkets don't really do much for you anyways in m+ unless it's broodlord
sweet summit
How good is this?
there are better options
carmine meteor
How good is this?
i heard bad things :(
fading viper
alright thanks guys
carmine meteor
looks like sockets :)
tender reef
If you don't have 100% uptime, you're a bad prot warrior
Truuuu
lunar pewter
Hi guys, need a little advice for what to pick from vault... So I have a HC Rashan cloak, Myth track Ara Ara trin with avoidance (I have Heroic version) and a belt which would be 30ilvl upgrade... I'm not sure if picking Rashan cloak is a good choice and if that bonus is really worth having or it is just a very minor thing... I play 10+ keys mostly if that helps š DPS wise belt sims the best but IDK how that cloak would be in terms of survi... myth ara ara trin with avoidance is also tempting...
carmine meteor
they fixed it you cant use it anymore :(
carmine meteor
Hi guys, need a little advice for what to pick from vault... So I have a HC Rash...
ara kara
ggs
with avoid bro your blessed
deft relic
is ovinax trink any good for prot warriors?
thin cedar
I want to play ITF but I donāt think Iād be able to get 100% uptime on SB.. it would be close.. but not on longer fights.. how are people playing ITF
Do you have to play bolster?
jagged pier
they are just taking the unblocked hits mostly
u just play HR
and then u dont need to care
thin cedar
I havenāt played my warrior since BFA.. I miss like 60% vers or whatever ridiculous number I had
jagged pier
that stat literally does nothing for u really unless u have that much of it
which u will never have
sweet summit
Do you have to play bolster?
i haven't ran all too many dungeons with ITF but with shield charge i think i get very close and the gaps i have can often be filled with wall
ebon glen
Is there any item worth farming in BRD?
jagged pier
not really
iron wedge
Is Prot Pal our opponent after this patch?
sweet summit
us tanks are not enemies... we need to stick together.. š«”
jagged pier
anniversay raid
blazing condor
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lofty veldt
loud wave
Do You Guys know if brd hc counts towards RAID vault slots?
quartz grove
Hello!! i need your help i have always played fury and i have never played tank , where do you recommend me to start to try this spec?
mellow palm
is mark of khadros or skarmorak better for prot? got both on vault lol
sweet summit
Do You Guys know if brd hc counts towards RAID vault slots?
probably does, i don't see why not š¤·
blazing condor
Hello!! i need your help i have always played fury and i have never played tank ...
wowhead/icyveins guide first