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dusky canopy
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Love that

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Might roll on one

strong forum
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myth belt

dusky canopy
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🤓

strong forum
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cuz sockets are alot weaker

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given that you get 6 sockets perma

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and that a 636 costs 90 crests

long bronze
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so nom you gonna use it on your warrior when dps? keks

dense cradle
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waiting for m+ streamer

pallid quiver
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If you're not a brokie ;-;

dense cradle
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to label it bis

strong forum
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but upgrading 623 to 639 is only 75 crests

dusky canopy
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6 sockets insta is the best thing they’ve ever done

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dusky canopy
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Love my 10% speed

long bronze
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10%?

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sharp epoch
long bronze
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you using a stam gem brother??

dusky canopy
strong forum
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i mean trrriple

dusky canopy
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Hell yeah I’m using a stam gem

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Speed gang

pallid quiver
strong forum
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its 0.2% of a stat vs 200 stam

dusky canopy
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💯

pallid quiver
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That's like 30k for all those sockets

strong forum
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it REALLY doesnt fucking matter what you gem

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xdd

long bronze
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I know I was certain I would be ridiculed if I put a stam gem in my gear

dusky canopy
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Lose 150 secondaries and gain 2 whole % speed

inner wren
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aint no one lookin bro

dusky canopy
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SIGN ME UP

pallid quiver
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I only look if you're a Prot Warrior in def stance

strong forum
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but breh

pallid quiver
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Because then I gotta go "smh bitch detected"

long bronze
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I have long been proponent of speed gem

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I have seen the light of the stam gem

dusky canopy
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I

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AM

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SPEED

strong forum
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the stam gem is worth more than the boots enchant in terms of speed gain

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i think

dusky canopy
hexed pumice
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guys quick question

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how good is swarmlords?

long bronze
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I'll be at 123% speed in raid talents on warrior now and I think 119% on my dk

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lets go

dusky canopy
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Huge runner

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Let’s gooo

near walrus
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larynx

hoary pivot
dusky canopy
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Poor healer can’t catch you in keys anymore

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Rip bozo

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deft mortar
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ngl i am so done with rando dps dying I'll only play with DKs and Warlocks

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And force them to get +20% stamina talent

dusky canopy
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Kek

strong forum
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if they dont play veteran theyre trolling

long bronze
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how can I simulate how much dam I get from the one extra global in melee range vs the stats I lose wicked

dusky canopy
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Never pug full meta comp

zenith gyro
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Warning bit of a vent session here. Was tanking a +10 Ara earlier today. I have already timed a 10, so was just using it for fun and chasing the trinket. All was smooth and we was flying through it until we hit the gauntlet. I have seen this gauntlet go sideways waaay too easily, so I am more reserved with my pulls there. The DPS was telling me to go, and chain pulls harder. I asked if either of them had a shield and wanted to tank, which is redundant but made me feel better. They started pulling ahead and dragging mobs over, surprise we wipe when every creature in the instance started smacking us. Then it was my fault that we wiped, I decided to cut my losses and jumped ship. Followed by multiple pms about me griefing them and wasting their time. Moral of the story, we are the captains of these ships, let us do our job.

pallid quiver
dusky canopy
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Fotm players strike again

deft mortar
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Spirit Bolt on Arcane Mage whose interrupt CD is 24 sec = Magee dead

hoary pivot
# strong forum eeeh

Not life changing but feels very impactful compared to the rest of gemming in general

deft mortar
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Spirit Bolt on based 8M hp frost DK > no interruot > don't care

dense cradle
deft mortar
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Mages die like flies

tribal wharf
dusky canopy
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Is that low budget horde symbol!?

deft mortar
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Wonder if most mages even have their barrier up

hoary pivot
deft mortar
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in PvE

tribal wharf
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im not a trigun nerd sory

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im from that era of anime though

dense cradle
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would not say the dungeon is faster

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tribal wharf
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no idea who he is he just reminds me of the type of hunter i want in my group

strong forum
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because of that specific reason

tribal wharf
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he can come to all my groups

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no reason to aggressively chainpull there BECUASE it goes south exceedingly fast

deft mortar
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wheres the gauntlet

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the slowyboi pulls

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with the stuns

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after 2nd boss

dusky canopy
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I wish more tanks would go left or right in the last arakara area

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Hate going up the middle

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Up middle so bad for overall

deft mortar
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I go left outright clear 2 phatties than summon boss

zenith gyro
strong forum
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ive never seen anyone go middle

zenith gyro
deft mortar
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do ppl chain those phatties cuz idk I feel like I'd survive but team wouldn't

dusky canopy
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I ran akara at +10/11 like 20 times farming the trinket and I recall 2 tanks going left

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All others went up middle lmao

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Crazy rng I guess

deft mortar
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Could be

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I legit see no other tank when I play

strong forum
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everyone insists on going left

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and i hate it

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middle is so much more chill in weekly keys

dense cradle
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somehow the pugs i see succeed more going left

deft mortar
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I have actually no idea what any other tank does because I only play tank

dense cradle
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more points when the tank dies to swirlies

strong forum
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you can actually wipe to left side

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middle you only wipe if you chain shti into the big beetle

dense cradle
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dobt remind me

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xddd

zenith gyro
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Not a fan of middle because it depends on the groups single target for the big guy. just a crappy pull overall.

dusky canopy
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Middle is chill can’t argue with that

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Sides have more pad though

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We like that

deft mortar
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I am so dumb I keep confusing CoT and Ara

strong forum
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you can easy +3 a 10 and go middle

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but no gotta go left and instead deplete cuz you chain pulled too hard

dusky canopy
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All these great emojis and I can’t send cause archi playin

deft mortar
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Ara before last boss I always go mid

dusky canopy
zenith gyro
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I do have a question though, how do we avoid the slow when going left? I find my self slowed down and cant do anything about it. Usually have to heroic leap and/or charge to get out of the web swirlies.

strong forum
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leap/intervene to get out

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avatar clears the slow

harsh bobcat
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For people running Larynx, do you use it on cooldown or do you stack charges? Worth tracking with a WA? I couldnt find any

strong forum
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thats it

pallid quiver
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I've literally yet to ever not go middle on that section

strong forum
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do both arthnox

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try to use it on CD as close as possible

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but also when its ready see for a few seconds if yo ucan get some lucky stacks beforehand

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to snapshot a bigger use

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and on a big pull, i would not press it

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and instead just en-masse stacks

harsh bobcat
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any known weakauras that track it?

strong forum
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simple buff tracker my guy

deft mortar
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just eye ball it

strong forum
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i just track all these stack trinkets

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and whenever i get a new stack trinket

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i add it to the list

dusky canopy
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Egg Sac

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Ashkually

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🤓

deft mortar
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Change that to Egg Sacc pls

strong forum
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hm?

long bronze
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🥚 👜

strong forum
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change what to eggsac

deft mortar
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the name idk if u can edit it

strong forum
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i track the IDs

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the name is displayed automatically

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the literal buff of the trinket is called egg sac

deft mortar
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Lmao

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Blizz would ban me for less than eggsec

long bronze
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here's a question

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skarmorak or layrnx, they sim the same for me

deft mortar
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If so, do they also play the same for u

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Cuz sim is ideal, play may not be

long bronze
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I have shard macrod into avatar rn which may be troll idk

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I've not played with larynx, its just chillin in my bags

deft mortar
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I bet u cast avatar so often that you are not missing out on uptime

ivory bay
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Is shieldwall a multiplicative or additive DR? When I block a hit, it gets reduced by my block value (41% currently) if i understand correctly. if put into the simplest math, if i get hit by an ability for 1m, is that reduced by 81% (190k damage taken out of the inital 1m) or is it reduced by 41% first and then that value is reduced by another 40% (354k damage taken out of the inital 1m)

dusky canopy
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I would use shard over larynx all day

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Larynx requires brain power

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Shard just macro it to avatar and move on

deft mortar
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idk like DMG * 0.45 * 0.55 * 0.90 * 0.6 * 0.84

dusky canopy
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Crazy zeros in that line bro

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(Edited)

deft mortar
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0.45 = 55% armor, 0.55 = 45% block 0.90 = 10% vers (assuming), 0.60 = 40% wall

ivory bay
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ah okay ty

deft mortar
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Oh and slap to that Dstance

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0.84?

strong forum
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all damage reductions are multiplicative

long bronze
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any idea why I cant sim this thing

strong forum
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only shields are additive ontop

inner wren
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its a beast

smoky anvil
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he has it, that's why it has two socket

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long bronze
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I have myth helm too though 😦

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nah I do

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but that was a good thought

strong forum
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missing enchant?

dusky canopy
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Just uncheck require upgrade materials

long bronze
strong forum
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missing ring combo

long bronze
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noe

strong forum
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you can only wear that ring once

long bronze
strong forum
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gib profile

long bronze
strong forum
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maybe youre not simming with rings/enchants enabled

deft mortar
inner wren
long bronze
strong forum
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did you tick the box

deft mortar
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thing of beauty

inner wren
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maybe youre not allowed to wear green items

strong forum
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works on my machine

long bronze
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hmmm

strong forum
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sounds like you got a skill issue on your hand

long bronze
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for certain

strong forum
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(id take the helmet tho)

long bronze
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yeah that's kinda my feel

strong forum
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that being said

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its easier to get myth helmet than that specific ring on myth again

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and just catalyse myth helm

deft mortar
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yall know an excel keybind to fill down empty cells up to the first non-empty cell?

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with the selected cell

strong forum
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sooo

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pick your poison

long bronze
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im so mad my vault gave me two giga options triggered

strong forum
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i had to do the same choice week1

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i had bis ring or myth helmet with socket

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picked socket

mystic pewter
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Is one point bloodborne better than bloodsurge? Or is bloodborne only worth taking if you’re going to put two points in?

strong forum
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bloodborne is not worth it

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period

long bronze
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wait you mean the helm with the socket right

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not just 2 sockets

strong forum
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yeah

long bronze
deft mortar
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I had to choose between mythic waist (I already have one), mythic cape (I already have one), and mythic refracting trinket (dogshit)

strong forum
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bloodborne is only "worth" it if you are colossus and dont need spellblock

deft mortar
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This week

strong forum
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thats trinket for crest saving or pick socket

deft mortar
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I got refracting so atleast I could upgrade any trinket to 623 for just valor stone with it

strong forum
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ye

mystic pewter
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Gotcha was just reading the faq but I guess it’s just not updated.

strong forum
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que?

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what isnt updated about it

long bronze
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wow nom

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very subtle changing ITF to HR

strong forum
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where

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huh

long bronze
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you ran my sim and it has HR on for some reason

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I thought you bein cheeky

strong forum
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bro i just clicked sim

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with what was given me

long bronze
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peculiar that talent isn't on my talents

chilly brook
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I doubt he cares that much to go into your talents and mess with them

long bronze
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wait it is

timid nacelle
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Hey team, what we think, legs and catalyst or Larynx

long bronze
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im dumb

mystic pewter
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Under mountain thane it says if you don’t needspell block drop surge and spec into bloodborne. So I was asking if borne is good could you just get one point by dropping bloodsurge and keeping spellblock.

inner wren
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larynx is giga

long bronze
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because I overode the talents because I had BSV on

dusky canopy
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I’m not a larynx fan so I would recommend legs personally

long bronze
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quick what's the best I'm a moron emoji

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long bronze
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that's in skyhold

dusky canopy
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🖍️

chilly brook
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deft mortar
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Lmao there are people with 632 ilvl rn

lofty warren
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how often do we get a catalyst charge

long bronze
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warriorbrain perfect

deft mortar
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I bet that's because Gilded limit

dusky canopy
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chilly brook
inner wren
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wish i had more catalyst charges

deft mortar
dusky canopy
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Guided limit needs to be 180 per week

long bronze
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pls no

violet ginkgo
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90 not enough brew?

deft mortar
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what's it now, 90?

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8 dungeons does 90

timid nacelle
long bronze
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I don't want to farm crests on toons I don't really want to play

dusky canopy
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Gearing at light speed

deft mortar
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So capping vault caps Gilded

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Sorta goes hard

dusky canopy
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Blizzard pls

inner wren
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180 a week and you get 30 per successful m+

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make it happen blizz

deft mortar
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that'd work

long bronze
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ok I can get behind this

deft mortar
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We all lazy lool

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Actually wanting to play a game less is probably not being lazy

inner wren
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nah that shit is too much work on alts rn

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i cant be assed to farm 540 crests on an alt

dusky canopy
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I’m not lazy I’ll do like 20 dungeons a week (I already do this) I just want to be super geared instantly and then enjoy big number on screen

deft mortar
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I gave up on alts in Cata

dusky canopy
deft mortar
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My main gameplay upto Cata was leveling and than doing some queued pvp / dungeons

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So alts were no problemo

long bronze
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between my two tanks I've done 140 keys this season I'm not lazy

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I need help

deft mortar
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find a hotline

dusky canopy
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It’s like 1hr per invite on average now at the 12/13 range

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So my dungeons per week super down bad

deft mortar
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I got 400 days played overall in WoW

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chilly brook
deft mortar
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Nome I bet you are like 1200

timid nacelle
# strong forum catalyst is your best bet

Oh damn, no catalyst charge this week so should I just take the pants and leave them in bags until next week as I will lose 4p, or just take the trinket so I can get some use outta another myth track this week?

dusky canopy
long bronze
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Just be the only tank in your guild that plays the game and you feel obligated to do everyone's vault keys

dusky canopy
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Literal guide writer

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“I bet he’s 1200”

deft mortar
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I give breaks but he doesn't so

strong forum
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get the pants unless you specifically want the trinket

dusky canopy
smoky anvil
strong forum
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sir ill have you know i have barely 600 days played despite playing since 2007

sonic ember
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Week 1 done as a prot warrior. Both trinkets dropped in vault. RIP. Wanted the swarmlord's out of raid to drop but.

deft mortar
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Damn

long bronze
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we usually time the weekly 10 for folks

deft mortar
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I play like first season and last season on most expacs

timid nacelle
strong forum
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this is my main

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created in TBC

deft mortar
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Dang

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Mine is very spread out but 266 days on my pala

long bronze
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my warrior is old enough to drive a car and has 1/3 that time lol

deft mortar
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Rest is on 2 warrs and a warlock

dusky canopy
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My mains only around 120 days iirc (mobile right now)

deft mortar
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to 400 hrs

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been maining warr since WoD tho

dusky canopy
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I’m at about 10k hours total on my wow account though

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I used to toon hop a lot when I was super casual

dusky canopy
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Played everything

long bronze
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we have seen the path to becoming a parrygodx, and it's afking in cities

dusky canopy
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And was bad at all of it

slate root
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easy clap

jagged pier
deft mortar
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holy

strong forum
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thats pretty tame for wow

deft mortar
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Your char is up for retirement sir

strong forum
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like im utter afk compared to some other crackheads

deft mortar
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Yeah nah that's why I thought u'd hit 1200

long bronze
dusky canopy
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Asmongold had 38k hours before quitting

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Lmao

deft mortar
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My guildmaster (she's an older lady) plays pretty much 16 hours a day for over a decade now

sonic ember
deft mortar
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Has like 10-20 alts gold capped

jagged pier
graceful kite
jagged pier
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but thats still like tame

sonic ember
deft mortar
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hey time spent having fun is time spent well - Treckie

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wonder what that guy's doing now

jagged pier
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i mean a lot of it is me running around oribos or dalaran bored

deft mortar
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jumping between rocks in your garrison

long bronze
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oribos critcake

strong forum
jagged pier
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i do think legion alone was 200 days or somthing

deft mortar
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(Assuming you are horde)

strong forum
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its not that big of a trinket

jagged pier
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i degened legion was at uni

smoky anvil
strong forum
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just get your steady upgrades and youll be fine

jagged pier
deft mortar
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We're all late 20s early 30s arent we

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I am 26 myself

strong forum
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swamplord is nowhere near the strength of good tank trinkets

jagged pier
strong forum
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im crossing the threshold soon

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to the elderly

jagged pier
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same

smoky anvil
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I’m 31. Gonna go parse leg day.

pallid quiver
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If you're older than 10, you might as well be dead

jagged pier
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me and nome couple of days apart

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getting scary

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👴

sonic ember
deft mortar
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we need behaviour scientists to study this

strong forum
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yeh then dont sweat too much about trinkets, there are no big impactful trinkets this season

jagged pier
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does going to the climbing gym count?

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cause i dont gym

deft mortar
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yeah ofc

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insane grip

strong forum
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theyre all mostly fluff, just focus on playing the character and learning the mechanics of yourself and the dungeons

smoky anvil
jagged pier
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hes not wrong

pallid quiver
strong forum
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i just bonk

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and it just works

dusky canopy
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DAMNIT IM NOT THIRTY YET!

strong forum
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but i am soon

long bronze
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I have to do math to figure out my age cuz I don't just remember it anymore

dusky canopy
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One year to go

deft mortar
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we're so lucky game doesnt attract teenagers anymore tbh

strong forum
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not even year

pallid quiver
deft mortar
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None of us could compete

strong forum
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psh

jagged pier
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i already cant

strong forum
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i can easily

jagged pier
pallid quiver
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I couldn't compete even when I was a teenager

strong forum
dusky canopy
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I forgot how to do math

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So I’ll never know

strong forum
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im literally in mmo prime

pallid quiver
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what the fuck was i booting up wow for again

deft mortar
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love how there is a prime for MMOs like boxing etc. lmao

long bronze
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to check your playtime

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old man

smoky anvil
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30s ain’t scary. I’m in the best shape of been at 31 than in my 20s. Make good life choices (like maybe not play as much WoW copium ) and you’ll be aight

strong forum
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the best ive ever been at a video game that isnt that 1 week in cod6 where i had an average KD of 40

pallid quiver
smoky anvil
smoky anvil
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Some of them dynos require crazy strength

jagged pier
strong forum
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or going 20-0 in SnD

deft mortar
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I got 0 aim, so never been too much into FPS

dusky canopy
long bronze
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if this was 16 years ago I'd probably have something to say to you I'd regret later

deft mortar
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played lotta league tho

pallid quiver
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I pretty much ditched WotLK, only played Cata on my brother's account, played a lotta MoP, skipped WoD, played like first month and near the end of Legion only, played until second day of raid being open BFA, played 1 week SL until the end of S3, then played intermittently for S4, then I played an okay amount of DF

dusky canopy
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1 v 1 rust

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HMU

strong forum
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good times

dusky canopy
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Good times indeed

smoky anvil
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I had to quit league. Lost my ability to play for fun, if I didn’t win I was a rage monster. Couldn’t not be that way so stopped.

long bronze
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halo 2 custom games

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now that was a good time

pallid quiver
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yeah, like i said, really low, all things considered

strong forum
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i quit league when i figured out that when the game is over that im left with nothing

jagged pier
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i iwsh i was tempted by Bo6 fixed servers remind me of the good old days

strong forum
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that was 2013

deft mortar
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it has to die eventually

fluid widget
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Why is the poisoned pact ring so good for us

long bronze
dusky canopy
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Only ring with an effect

jagged pier
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kantrips good

dusky canopy
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Easily bis every time one appears

strong forum
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big crit, and the only ring with an effect

pallid quiver
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I stopped liking League and Riot when they shot their lore and story and hard rebooted it for like the twelfth time. (It was only the second, but I lost all stakes in the game by that point)

deft mortar
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I like league cuz I can jump in and Dr Mundo is still Dr Mundo

plush tendon
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you are left with self loathing and hatred of other people

fluid widget
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Aight sounds like I’m gonna grab hero ring

strong forum
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nah augusto

fluid widget
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Thanks folks

pallid quiver
strong forum
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i climbed from silver to plat in 1 week after i tried for 1 time in my life to play ranked

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and was disgusted how easy it was to rise

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so i quit on the spot

deft mortar
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I shit you not, I have never passed Gold lmao

plush tendon
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I dont pass Plat

pallid quiver
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it's a good time

plush tendon
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I just want my free skin

lofty veldt
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fighting games goated

plush tendon
strong forum
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nah idk

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i dont get excited by stuff like that anymore

long bronze
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or here me out

deft mortar
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I think the rank ppl care about in LoL is their champion rank

long bronze
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play factorio and don't realize it's next week already until it's already the week after that

strong forum
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my reward only being "skill" is not interesting anymore

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maybe thats when my depression started

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when being good wasnt fun enough

velvet knot
lofty veldt
velvet knot
patent bronze
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As a fury warrior main, if I wanted to learn how to play prot is it an easy transition?

velvet knot
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Do i take the trash cloak or the trash neck?

strong forum
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its the only neck in the game with haste that isnt from raid

plush tendon
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doesnt that neck have a shit ton of haste on it?

strong forum
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nah but its the only haste neck from m+

velvet knot
strong forum
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the 2nd biggest haste neck in the game

plush tendon
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oooof

velvet knot
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so take neck?

dusky canopy
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Agree honestly, almost entirely lost interest in games that only care about your “skill”

long bronze
pallid quiver
strong forum
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if you will never ever mythic raid

dusky canopy
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I think that’s why I enjoy MMOs so much

strong forum
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not even pug

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yeah its bis neck then

velvet knot
pallid quiver
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though i need to get back to playing under night more

lofty veldt
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btw gamers! i got my heroic nexus princess kill today!

velvet knot
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apparently mastery is our worst stat so i was kinda hesitant

plush tendon
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I want to start playing Warhammer Total War

lofty veldt
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2 hours of wiping though sadge

plush tendon
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but I dont have time 😦

strong forum
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its our "worst"

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but not BAD

plush tendon
pallid quiver
buoyant lintel
pallid quiver
strong forum
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BRO FUCK

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man

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i keep forgetting to order food

lofty veldt
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same.

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get shwarma

strong forum
#

its been 1.5hrs since iwanted to order but i keep getting distracted

pallid quiver
#

just put me in your house, nome, i'll make food

#

me like cook

plush tendon
#

dont order food, cook food

#

save dat money

strong forum
#

ive have too much money to give a fuck about that

lofty veldt
#

give me that money

#

:3

#

im your best friend basically

long bronze
#

I wish food was just magically at my house to cook like Augusto

dusky canopy
#

Hollyy Based

tribal wharf
#

went for 0 threads, surprise bitch, its +2

tribal wharf
lofty veldt
#

btw gamers would anyone help and look at my log with me? i identified some issues like wasting violent outburst on TB and a missed cast of ravager sadge

long bronze
#

wowhead paying GOOD

plush tendon
#

we got all the meats

#

and then we cook some rice, veggies and meal prep

strong forum
#

nah wowhead is just covering my food expenses

long bronze
#

im goin tomorrow and I swear to god they better have this honey ginger dressing thats been out of stock the last 3 times

lofty veldt
#

also i didn't expect weapon enchant to contribute that much to damage

long bronze
#

its like CRACK

strong forum
#

depths is good in this season

#

in future seasons it will fall more and more behind compared to stat enchants

lofty veldt
#

i see

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
lofty veldt
#

also i just found out i could spell reflect nexus princess spells

#

should memorize the sheet

deft mortar
#

we gotta invite more new player to WoW to deflate the 0.1% rating man fr

#

I just need to find 999 people

#

to be 0.1%

dusky canopy
strong forum
#

to deflate the 0.1% rating, you need to widen the base

#

not the top

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
deft mortar
#

rip im a jobber

#

but I WFH

lofty veldt
pallid quiver
#

I'm looking through to see if I can spot anything notable gameplay wise

dusky canopy
#

It appears to me that you press your buttons

#

Ahh yes very nice

lofty veldt
#

i do enjoy pressing

dusky canopy
#

🤓

pallid quiver
#

It'll take a bit since your cast breakdowns are roughly good, though there was a period where you didn't have any executes for about a minute; I haven't checked to see if you didn't get any SD procs or got a lot of SS procs, but

lofty veldt
#

oh yeah

#

execute or SS proc?

#

what's prio

pallid quiver
#

SS is prio

lofty veldt
#

alright c:

pallid quiver
#

Does more damage iirc and generates rage

#

100% deals more damage if outbursted

dusky canopy
#

Press Exeslam more duhhhh

pallid quiver
#

You can still afford to send a few more outbursts on SS, as well

lofty veldt
#

i keep fucking that up 😦

dusky canopy
pallid quiver
#

And if you really want to push damage, you can slip into one of the execute builds

frank rock
#

Do we craft 636 1h or shield first? which is more important?

dusky canopy
#

Shield

lofty veldt
#

shield gamer

pallid quiver
lofty veldt
#

oh i thought the mythic shield dropped from the queen

violet ginkgo
#

shield from raid drop from 1st and last boss

lofty veldt
#

nice!

frank rock
#

ai

#

t

#

1h isnt that big of a DPS upgrade?

dusky canopy
#

It would be a reasonable dps increase yes

pallid quiver
#

It's a big DPS upgrade since it gives weapon damage,

dusky canopy
#

Shield is more** important because you live with that

pallid quiver
#

but you're also a tank and get slapped a lot

frank rock
#

😄

lofty veldt
#

i'll need to do some +8s and get gilded crests sadge

pallid quiver
lofty veldt
pallid quiver
#

As a random defensive aside, you also appear to have not pressed spell block at all

lofty veldt
#

yeah

#

i checked the sheet after the fight and was like

#

oh.

pallid quiver
#

It works on the dot left by the tank buster mech, so it's pretty useful

lofty veldt
#

will do it next time!

#

must've given the healers some trouble then

violet ginkgo
pallid quiver
#

A good spitball reminder for raid is that it works on every tank hit mechanic except:

  • Specifically the exposes on 3rd boss
  • Feast on Ansurek; it DOES work on Liquefy, however, hence why you should aim to take the liquefies over other tanks
pallid quiver
lofty veldt
#

oops.

stone moat
pallid quiver
#

But things like Mandate, Skarm Shard, Khardos, all usable

stone moat
#

Ohhh

pallid quiver
#

Transmitter, too

#

Also, Fliixy, you can probably spare catching a few more SS resets, as well; my most recent Princess wasn't even my cleanest performance, and I managed 22.9 CPM to your 21.3 on SS

#

That might stem from portal placement, as well,

#

So it might not be wholy in your control if DPS make things whack, but

lofty veldt
#

yeah sometimes i was away from boss some weird portal shenanigans happened

#

and i wasn't on top of my SS resets

pallid quiver
#

Oh, also, you can spell reflect for the DR on every single tank buster, and you can also spare it during intermission to reflect a line if you get one on you

#

As just a "help out the team" section, you can use that and shield wall and the like to make it so you can survive in a pizza slice on heroic if you have a line so you don't surprise a DPS/Heals and get them hit by your line

lofty veldt
#

i like the WA im using but i think if i can have something to tell me about Burst of Power procs it'll be perfect

#

oh that's great! thanks for letting me know

pallid quiver
lofty veldt
#

nope

#

it's the talent from the mountain thane tree

#

where lighting strikes have a chance to give you 2 shield slams

pallid quiver
#

ah, the SS one, yes?

#

I just modified my WA to show stacks of SS

#

Nome's should show stacks of it, as well

strong forum
#

also glows!

#

same for thunderblast

pallid quiver
#

You can probably modify whatever you have to track the spell ID of Burst of Power, then use text to track stacks of it without hurting it

#

Just find whichever is the SS WA specifically in the suite you have and add that

grim glen
#

is this any good? it's either this or a hero ring with crit/haste

jagged pier
#

nope

grim glen
jagged pier
#

probably

violet ginkgo
lofty veldt
modest oxide
#

Hey all - vault options for me this week are mythic chest (vs hero track maxed out ) or mythic larynx (I currently have hero skarm, hero swarmgland and champion silken chain weaver). Probably mythic chest?

violet ginkgo
#

I think so.

#

but you can always try to sim Larynx first to see how it goes. if it is not good then chest.

digital pelican
#

hi everyone, been reading up on embelishments - ive seen many different usages and opinions

#

any idea if by now theres a bis embelishment?

high mesa
#

No they all suck

#

It depends what content you’re doing

pallid quiver
plain vapor
#

ouuu myth track sacbrood in vault

#

we eatin fam

digital pelican
fathom spoke
#

Anyone else EU ever consider getting up early for work to check your vault before work kinda like how you sneak downstairs christmas morning when your parents were still asleep?

jagged gust
#

It's curse/kiss, get a good trinket in vault? Good luck being productive at work when you're sitting on your BIS at home.

#

Bad vault? Cursed work day, Karen will also bring in a tuna surprise for lunch to really kill your spirit

fathom spoke
frigid eagle
#

Does the Ovinax's Mercurial Egg worth it? That one and AraKara Sacbrood will work?

rugged sable
#

Need some guidance on these trinket choices, (Mark of Khardros vs Skar).
So Mark is just better overall for a Prot Warrior probably capping at +12?

long bronze
#

egg is pretty good, but it sims at 20-10 basically perma which is not something that you'd have fun doing probably

tribal wharf
#

SURPRISE keystone when doing a zero, even its upgraded to a 2 isnt something i welcome in the future again

#

we almost depleted, almost

#

thats a first one of those in a long time

long bronze
#

mark and shard is a toss up, mark is more on use mastery, shard is more passive mastery. Mark tends to sim better because you're not getting the passive mastery from kills

rugged sable
#

Feels like the ~5-600 mastery after every pack would just be better for an M+ only player.

long bronze
#

I tend to agree and enjoy my shard

long bone
#

Any downside to macroing Shield Slam to Shield Block? So every time I SB it will (try to) cast SS ?

dusky canopy
#

Sim doesn’t take into account the mastery you can carry into the next pull

#

So mark will always sim better

sick trellis
#

i think i need some vers

dusky canopy
#

I personally vaulted a myth shard so I use shard naturally

long bronze
#

no you need more haste

dusky canopy
#

If I had both I think I would still use shard

frigid eagle
#

My vault its really tricky this time..

Heroic Mercurial Egg, (have hero sacbrood and champion track silken chain weaver from delves)

Heroic bis Cloak, (have Mythic raid Ulgrax's )

Mythic track Encrusted shield (have the 636 crafted one)

Mythic track Shipwrecker 1h wep (have hero 626 Duelist Dancing steel)

dusky canopy
#

You already have crafted shield so I probably would go weapon

#

Big dps increase

long bronze
#

100% weapon angle UNLESS you're killing sikran on mythic and want to just loot from the boss

#

then I'd go shield

sick trellis
dusky canopy
#

Even then frost dks taking that weapon before you

long bronze
dusky canopy
#

40% haste is when you can run ITF

frigid eagle
dusky canopy
#

So go haste

strong forum
dusky canopy
long bronze
#

repeat after me, haste is based

strong forum
#

The first 30% threshold for haste is around 20k haste

strong forum
#

The 40% threshold aka the DR that matters, is around 28k haste or some shit

long bronze
strong forum
frigid eagle
strong forum
#

Meaning you get 12% haste from talents

#

Which are multipliers

long bronze
strong forum
#

% multipliers from talents do not affect the stat DRs

dusky canopy
#

Where’s the big str on use that isn’t a mini game!?

strong forum
#

It's only raw rating that gets affected

long bronze
#

yeah I want 40k strength

strong forum
long bronze
#

why do casters always get the cool shit

strong forum
#

Cuz they're first class citizens

dusky canopy
long bronze
sick trellis
#

but i do know i should drop my crit abit and mastery for more vers no?

dusky canopy
#

Where Font of Power!?

long bronze
plush tendon
dusky canopy
#

I’ll need 20 second pull timer raid lead

#

Or else

plush tendon
#

the difference is so minor

ornate pulsar
#

What do you guys think is easier to get to a +10 level of player as... a healer or a tank? Leveled almost all of each and cant decie which i like more

long bronze
#

are we talking with a pug or with a group

ornate pulsar
#

uhm go with pug

#

i tend to pug more than anything so far

long bronze
#

I'd say purely out of maintaining your sanity, tank

#

the amount of dumb shit you'll have to witness (and fix) as a healer in pugs is going to make your brain leak out of your ears

toxic pewter
#

At the end of the day the tank has larger macro responsibilities within the group. Healers more micro situations

royal rune
#

What's the item I need to add to my everforged defender craft to make the stats haste vers? I've been looking everywhere but find it

toxic pewter
#

Search ah for missive

long bronze
#

algari missive of the something

worthy gyro
#

hey, noob here with a question:
Elemental Focusing Lens on Prot Warrior, is it suppose to be 30k less damage?
I just made it expecting it to be 90k~ damage but item is stating 60k.
I switched specs and it went up to 90k but like… why isn’t it the same for tank spec?

royal rune
#

Missive was last expansions I thought...ah algari missive

toxic pewter
tribal wharf
#

i think i got a mount

#

well shit, i have to play as int class or healer spec

inland raft
#

myth sacbrook, not a bad vault

worthy gyro
#

@toxic pewter this makes me mad - i spent gold on this

toxic pewter
long bronze
#

that's why you sim it. Also damage numbers on tooltips means basically nothing because it could have an insane PPM or a totally trash one

strong forum
#

Every flat dmg proc thing is nerfed by 30% for tanks and healers

#

Lense Sims best for single target

#

And dusk/dawn is your choice for aoe/m+ dmg

long bronze
#

I kinda get the trinket nerfs for tanks, kinda (not really) but nerfed embellisments is totally braindead

heavy sparrow
#

Yay or nay

tribal wharf
heavy sparrow
#

Good kk

tribal wharf
#

it has no damage variance, but it can critical

heavy sparrow
#

X6 it is this week for me

tribal wharf
#

the dmg if very very low

silk blade
#

im pretty new at prot warrior but is it me or the Quickwick candlestick look to over sim ??

tribal wharf
#

also bad

heavy sparrow
#

I can confirm candlestick is bad

tribal wharf
#

basically any candle trinket is bad

#

all 3 of them need massive buffs and tweaks to see play

heavy sparrow
#

I had to choose candle or ceaseless swarm.

I chose ceaseless swarm

silk blade
#

good cause the fang is my second option is it better ??

tribal wharf
#

i would pick anything but that personally

silk blade
#

thanks a lot haha

vestal moat
#

Does elemental lens help with seal of the poisoned pact procs? First world problems I know but it might lean me towards using that embellishment

#

Or is thane spells enough to proc it adequately

strong forum
strong forum
timber nest
#

what is the go to 3rd craft? is it just sim?

grim bobcat
#

Just did a dungeon with a MW for once and the life cocoon animation is so big you cannot see any ground aoe while you have it, what a great design

tawdry cloak
delicate iron
#

Forgive my ignorance (never played other tanks) but if prot without shield block gets 1-shot with what I assume was melee hit, how do other tanks, who relly less on mitigation and more on healing afterwards, survive fights like that?

tawdry cloak
#

This was an RP hit. Let them assassinate those mobs before you run in

delicate iron
#

Ah, I see. That makes sense

nimble laurel
#

do I still need to have shield block up for offensive damage even if I'm not taking damage? or did that change?

vestal moat
#

yes it increases shield slam damage by 30%

tribal wharf
#

fang dmg

#

averag hit 63k..... not good...

somber warren
#

Hey guys, I was doing a Grim Batol +10 with my team and it happened that in the 3rd boss, the adds summoned by the dragon were changing their target. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening?

fluid beacon
#

Max lvl hook sims slightly higher for me but shard has to be better overall no? I can use it as fury too and its greta for fury and idk if sims take into consideration adds dying when you have shard?

woeful trellis
somber warren
molten gorge
# fluid beacon

What are you simming? Cause I'd expect it's only better single target

long bronze
#

the sim isn't going to account for the passive mastery gain either, shard is better

#

it's better for dps, its better for surv, its better for offspec dps

#

its just better

thick cairn
#

Got the 626 zureki neck from GV today gladge

fluid beacon
#

but i picked shard

#

its just barely worse than hook and superior in aoe

#

and is big for fury

long bronze
#

its also literally only better im sim cuz patchwork

long bronze
#

in*

molten gorge
cold token
#

Hey guys! I need some help with the mechanics of the game tank wise. On the last boss heroic and I keep ripping agro from my co-tank without taunting, then getting one shot from the liquify debuff. We figured it's because I keep ripping agro from him because my dps is higher. It didn't happen again if I reduced dps. I was wondering what the percentage agro was to take agro from your co-tank? Or does it just need to be more than what they have?

pallid quiver
#

You generally have to be doing a lot more damage than your cotank to rip off aggro from damage alone

long bronze
#

is it just the first one?

cold token
#

I'm not doing -that- much more dps than him. I'm averaging at about 450K-500k and him about 350k

#

Yes it's the first liquify

long bronze
#

just have him do the first liquify and you do the feast

cold token
#

Well fuck me we'll try that

long bronze
#

just slow your opener, liquify comes out really fast

#

if it keeps happening throughout the fight it's a deeper issue but if its just you're pumping on opener its an easier fix

mighty valley
#

unless it's changed recently, if you reach 110% of the current target's threat, you'll pull aggro. but taunt matches your threat to the current target, forces targeting, and gives you a big threat gen buff for the duration

#

so if the burstier tank goes 1st, the cotank gets all the benefit of their burst when they taunt

long bronze
#

its also seems super common for tanks to taunt liquify and then outrange the boss tryin to move it during taunt threat amp

cold token
#

We're looking through logs. He's a blood DK and we found out his death and decay uptime is kinda poor which is apparently a high threat ability

long bronze
#

so make sure yall aren't doing that

#

meh not really, dnd uptime is important for many reasons but not really specific to threat

cold token
#

I know little about blood dk

long bronze
#

dam = threat

#

no dnd = less dam = less threat, no more complicated then that

#

just make sure he's actually hitting buttons during the taunt threat amp

#

and not just trying to move the boss out of melee range

cold token
#

Will do. Having said that, that boss does need moving after taunt pretty quick 😛

#

But thanks for the help, and the suggestion of swapping taunts

long bronze
#

eh not faster than you can strafe and melee the boss

cold token
#

True

long bronze
#

good luck!

cold token
#

It litterally only happened on the first liquify like three times in about twenty pulls

long bronze
#

then its probably just failure to take advantage of taunt threat amp + you're still in your opener burst

cold token
#

Aye

long bronze
#

funnily, it happens to me on my dk, just opposite

#

because exterminates are up right then and I'm sending million hit scythes into her ass

cold token
#

Hahaha. Aye I always perceived DK's as being high threat high dam

#

Thanks again. We'll swap order and he can pull.

long bronze
#

give it a shot!

#

also tip for later, make sure to taunt during the cast of liquify (and even later) gorge

#

the time between the casts is super short and once she's casting, it doesn't switch

#

so if you're sitting on the floor wondering why you took a 20m feast it's because of that

cold token
#

Hahaha Thanks

heavy sparrow
lyric loom
#

what loot spec should i open as if im crafting my weapon/shield

long bronze
#

if you don't want a potential myth weap or shield, arms

#

myth shield and wep are still generally large upgrades over crafted onces

#

ones*

#

no matter what spec you're gonna risk getting an item in there you don't want

#

arms, 2h, fury, 1h 2h, prot shit trinkets

heavy sparrow
viral berry
#

Do we have our hard cap and soft cap % percentages anywhere here??

inner wren
#

100%

tribal wharf
#

4m

golden sedge
#

is this a socket angle

#

could replace ceaseless swarmgland with transmitter

tribal wharf
#

maybe, but check with raiders

#

i do keys and delves

long bronze
#

it's a do you play dps if not probably socket angle

heavy sparrow
#

My vault was trash this week

#

Imma have to start pushing +8 keys since heroic raiding doesn't supply me anything other

long bronze
#

transmitter is ight I guess if you like minigames

high mesa
long bronze
#

I'd agree with you except tanks tend to just not hit buttons after taunting that boss because they feel the need to move it and are out of range

#

i.e. you see shit like this

high mesa
#

ya nah that aint it in our case

long bronze
#

show a log

cold token
deft mortar
#

2 packs into gatekeeper and ppl died

#

I self healed 1M hps so I didn't die

#

How can bros be 2.7k and not click their buttons

long bronze
#

playing gatekeeper with pugs critcake

deft mortar
#

Was NW 12 and these guys were all min 2.6k and 625

#

I'll try skip Gatekeeper from now on

#

But idk makes the boss pulls messy

long bronze
#

are you starting on stage?

#

cuz if you play stage and then go along the bottom of the stage the other way, the first stuff should despawn by the time you get there

#

you're also fighting that boss for a reallly long time if that happens

#

or your group is buttcheeks at stack killing the worms

restive plaza
#

I definitely take the neck right? current one is the emergency stop keychain 619; rings are haste/vers, and haste/master

mental hound
#

when you all open your vaults, do you set it to Prot or arms?

long bronze
#

I'd personally go neck but I'd also sim it first

restive plaza
#

just did

#

it's not even close

long bronze
nocturne kernel
deft mortar
#

626 neck seems to be heroic 6/6

#

Altho BiS, ilvl > secondaries

#

Them 623's go up to 639

#

I am rushing on having an 639 on each slot before worrying about stats

#

I got 626 Sureki from first week chest tho

#

Feel too lucky xd

#

Literally couldn't get higher ilvl at that vault eitber

long bronze
#

Myth ring w/o haste and bracers meh

deft mortar
#

U can use token on bracers

#

Or have ur ring maxed to open upgrades

knotty elbow
#

is there a haste % where into the fray is worth?

dreamy thicket
#

Any thoughts? I'd be replacing a 606 Haste/Mastery ring or a 613 Corrosive Organ

deft mortar
long bronze
#

sim it (but shard)

deft mortar
#

I'd use it any time

#

The additional rage is like 700-800 I think on a dung

#

8% haste takes one sec off your SB anyway

#

My uptime is 95%

#

My math uptime should be 97%

#

8/12 + 8/45 + 15/120

#

I use last stand CD talent over spell block because I am comfy with magic dmg idk why

#

Even at 12 keys, not worried about magic dmg

#

Will see as I go up I guess

#

I reflect and manage CDs OK tho I guess

#

Also use Frontline potion on big pulls instead dmg up so

quartz robin
deft mortar
#

Some pot that gives you armor and max health%

brittle dust
deft mortar
#

Potion*

#

Lasts like 15 secs

quartz robin
#

I didn't even know this existed

deft mortar
#

I like to use it for the big first pulls

quartz robin
#

That's very helpful thank you

#

I struggle with the first pull ( 3 packs) in stone vault. This would help massively

deft mortar
#

With this + last stand + rally +shaman on me I hit like 20-25M health for 10-15 seconds

#

Basically unkillable

#

Then I pop wall

brittle dust
#

that man thicc

deft mortar
#

If group can't clear first pull in 30 seconds it's on them

quartz robin
#

Thank you

long bronze
#

what % is 1000 avoidance

onyx needle
#

like 1%

#

or well 1.6

long bronze
#

HMMM

onyx needle
#

me doing numbers in head is not always accurate

long bronze
#

this choice sucks but I really am leaning towards this ring

#

okay well its a good problem to have for sure

#

two good vault options haha

maiden meadow
#

Question. Anyone know what would be tthe better decision here? 33 ilevel trinket upgrade or 13 ilevel weapon upgrade when maxed

sick sentinel
#

hi guys, if we have violent outburst but SS is on CD, do we just send it on thunderclap on ST (colossus)

#

guide says: Consume Violent Outburst with Shield Slam in ST/small AoE, or Thunder Clap against 8 (4 as Mountain Thane) or more targets.

#

but idk if I'm supposed to wait for SS to come off CD to spend, bc it means I'd be basically gcd locked

onyx needle
#

i would go for that trinket but that is me since it is a bis

long bronze
maiden meadow
#

Thanks guys!

deft mortar
#

No doubt

#

Any one hander will work for ya

sick sentinel
#

agmius do you know what I should do in my q

deft mortar
#

There is only 1 "eggsac"

maiden meadow
#

oops got it on guardian too

deft mortar
sick sentinel
#

'if we have violent outburst but SS is on CD, do we just send it on thunderclap on ST (colossus)
guide says: Consume Violent Outburst with Shield Slam in ST/small AoE, or Thunder Clap against 8 (4 as Mountain Thane) or more targets.
but idk if I'm supposed to wait for SS to come off CD to spend, bc it means I'd be basically gcd locked'

deft mortar
#

Would you also be rage starved and can't fill in with revenge?

#

Even so I'd just slap TC and call it a day unless it's single target

sick sentinel
#

yeah I'm asking on ST

deft mortar
#

Hmm ST ID spam revenge to try trigger freebie SS

sick sentinel
#

let's say I am rage starved

sick grotto
#

Revenge or execute reset ss

sick sentinel
#

what if I have no SD

#

and I'm low rage

#

below 20 for revenge

#

as an example

mint pike
#

then you fucked up and just send the TC and accept that you made a rotational mistake and lost a small amount of dmg and rage gen

deft mortar
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I'd honestly slap TC and call it a day in that scenario, loosing 700-800k here and there won't loose your key

sick grotto
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Thats on the rage management pity tc it is

wooden widget
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You need to track outburst to avoid this

deft mortar
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At 35-40% haste I am rarely in situation like that esp as Thane

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Because rage flows

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Colossus with BT sometimes I make that choice

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But that's low keys for overall maxxing

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I dont even click IP on those runs lol

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Spamming 1M revenge crits is cure for depression

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200k hps from leech alone kekw

maiden meadow
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Hey guys, I dont see anything in the rules about this. But I'm currently 2550 io on my prot warrior and have just kinda been button spamming up to this point. But I feel like I could be more methodical about my proc/cd usage if someone would be willing to spectate and offer advice. dm me 🙂

iron sphinx
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what is looking like the best race for m+ rn?

maiden meadow
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dwarf

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2nd is dwarf

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3rd and 4th also dwarf

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just get a bunch of projection prisms so u never have to look like a dwarf

iron sphinx
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xd

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has any1 simmed the 10% armor that earthen get?

deft mortar
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I bet can button mash to all 12s too

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And higher probably

cinder marsh
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IDK what to pick

deft mortar
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Is that the bis neck

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If ur neck bad just grab it and upg if it's hero track

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If it's champ idk I wouldn't

cinder marsh
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already got neck piece

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i just dont know what to pick out of the helm and 2 cloaks

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ihave crafted sword so i dont think thats gonna be the pick

mighty valley
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just sim and have a robot decide for you if it’s this close

pallid quiver
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grab the wep for transmog

long bronze
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I couldn't help myself I had to take it

halcyon dust
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Who is Daniel?

tulip jasper
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what are good trinkets for us? beside simming on raidbots and bloodmallet what tank trinkets are good for us?

sharp gale
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Swarmorld authority I guess, I still don’t have it so I don’t know

errant wagon
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Hey y'all, what is the opinion of the rare raid cape?
I got one in my vault that rolled with extra avoidance.
However, I also rolled Myth track shoulders that would replace my current champion track shoulders. I do not mythic raid, so it's the only means of myth track gear for me.

I don't know how to accurately "sim" the effectiveness of this cape. Currently sitting at 619 ilvl and the last image is my gear composition as a whole. advice is appreciated 🙏

tulip jasper
sharp gale
errant wagon
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Right, I guess I was trying to say my only opportunity for myth track gear is vault rewards, so should I forfeit my myth options I'm getting from the Dungeon row for this cape that I will never roll higher

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Trying to understand how valuable that cape is since simming DPS on it means nothing

sharp gale
grim pilot
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Its giga for bdk

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My guilds tank wants it so badly