protection

[vague abyss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1g0la7m/when_the_warrior_tank_starts_screaming_healer_and/
Relevant meme for paper warriors in M+

18% shield block uptime, oof

[lusty grotto]

oh god

[vague abyss]

also TIL I can also look at buff uptime in details, dunno why i didnt think of that

[lusty grotto]

a warrior topic in reddit

time to read the most cooked takes in the comments

ok

these comments are actually alright

[vague abyss]

i mean i read the comments and they are ok

[lusty grotto]

i wonder if the mastery guy will comment

[smoky anvil]

Is there some mastery glazer on the wow subreddit?

[lusty grotto]

yeah hes a meme

choco has some experience with him

🙂

[vague abyss]

i think there is someone named like that "Mastery is not a bad stat"

[lusty grotto]

ghash?

ghash is correct though

mastery isnt a bad stat

[vague abyss]

i mean... is not i guess, is just not good to spam it i guess?

[smoky anvil]

I mean it isn’t.

[lusty grotto]

STACKING MASTERY is

there are cooked takes in these comments though

[vague abyss]

sorry i tried, 30% crit 25% haste, still trying to fix my haste

[lusty grotto]

they are giving way too much importance to IP

lol

75% shield block requires kiting points, who knew

[tribal wharf]

i did some SV trinket science

26m healing in a +4

[vague abyss]

the only time i kite in a dungeon is when i did some big pulls and i know i pulled more than i can chew xD

[lusty grotto]

i dont kite anything

except for the SV dudes

and by kite i mean that i just spear them and take 2 steps back

[tribal wharf]

its basically 1 m heal per minute

[toxic pewter]

wait the little dudes that put armor debuff on u

or whatever

i also kite those dudes

[smoky anvil]

I love doing this shit

[lusty grotto]

yea

apb

[toxic pewter]

do you pull all 3 packs in the hallway

[lusty grotto]

yes

[toxic pewter]

ok i did that earlier

and i had to kite but it worked out well

[lusty grotto]

its a fun pull

[toxic pewter]

yes

[lusty grotto]

i just hold spear for it

[toxic pewter]

yes I am going to do that going forward

[vague abyss]

I do those 3 pulls but because i know everyone have their cds and i assume dps can do dps

[lusty grotto]

yeah

pretty much

spearing them is also fun cause you can just TB from slightly out of range

but i go right in after 12 stacks have faded

and then shockwave and move out a little with stutterstep

when it goes back up to 10-12, as its fading

to reset

[tribal wharf]

i dunno how the hell

[lean grove]

What was the way to check uptime on shieldblock? 🙂 Just on details buff uptime - Shieldblock? That doesnt show effective time though or am i stupid

[tribal wharf]

but i took 36 m dmg on that key i just run on the final boss alone

[lusty grotto]

logs are better

[blazing condor]

damage taken > melee > hover mouse on "hits"

[lean grove]

Thank you Dog 🙂

[lusty grotto]

thats for logs

[blazing condor]

woof

[lusty grotto]

not details

details doesnt have effective uptime

[blazing condor]

dont look uptime on details

[lean grove]

Oh, gotcha - Thank you!

[lost wyvern]

whats the usual % uptime on shield block and ignore pain in m+ currently? im not playing warrior atm but i did in dragonflight S3 and i had like 98% and 95%+ every m+ run and was wondering what the numbers should be at in current season?

[pastel remnant]

spell block really work on liquify? didnt know that so its good i tooke that spell i let my dk friend take the feast

[tawny citrus]

Do we need much versality?

[nocturne spindle]

is there a season 1 stoneform list

[tawny citrus]

I am currently around 8% and I saw some other high m+ score with more vers than crit score

[tribal wharf]

u need 50% versa or you are bad tank

source, ummm, a warlock

[cobalt wren]

is avanoxx bugged right now? She was healing herself for no reason

[nocturne spindle]

||affix||

[lusty grotto]

thats good, you can take any of the 2 though

[elfin jasper]

Was likely the weeks affix

[cobalt wren]

damn in +11 i was trying to stay alive and boss kept healing

should have looked

[toxic pewter]

does the affix heal mobs tho

[chilly brook]

if you bring me I ROP for you 🙂

[cobalt wren]

the affix

[lusty grotto]

you can run some, but you may not need it until higher keys

and even then its debatable

bro

ive been

doing priory to farm the weap enchant

as a follower dungeon while leveling brew

andi just noticed

this shit gives 0 exp

[chilly brook]

ooof

[pastel remnant]

@lusty grotto what you use to mitigate feast?

[lusty grotto]

wall

it doesnt hit hard

but in your case

if you have a BDK

its probably better if he takes it

that being said you can do both

[fervent dune]

is it normal that logs show different buff uptime than details? 99% shield block uptime in details but only 91% in logs for the same key

[jagged pier]

yes

and uptime isnt what u look at

its blocked hits

[pastel remnant]

@lusty grotto cool! so shield block + spell block for liquify should do it

[fervent dune]

in logs? how do i do that senpai

[jagged pier]

damage taken -> melees -> hover over the hits column

[fervent dune]

ty

[lusty grotto]

sure

[fervent dune]

what do we aim for there? "blocked hits 87%"

[nocturne spindle]

you aim for 100%

[smoky anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[nocturne spindle]

you most likely hit like 95

[jagged pier]

what talents u running and what dungeon?

[nocturne spindle]

90-95

[fervent dune]

mists and basic wowhead m+ talents with heavy repercussions

[jagged pier]

yer your should be at 94-95 with that

so you are probably not pressing your buttons enough

[stuck oasis]

Having a little trouble using spell block effectively. Are there any ways of sort of cluing in to times you are taking a lot of blockable spell damage?

[jagged pier]

and/ or arent tracking SB correctly

[jagged pier]

read the sheet and just press when those abilities come up

[mellow arch]

Yeah been letting our bdk take the feasts

Feels a whole lot better

[toxic pewter]

Is there a way to mouse over melee hits in Warcraft logs on mobile browser

Trying to see blocked % on my phone

[jagged pier]

yer

change it to webverison

and click in the same place

with your finger

[toxic pewter]

Ok thanks

[tranquil sleet]

Whats the best tank plater profiles?

[jagged pier]

which ever u like the most

thats very personal to the player

[tranquil sleet]

Didnt know if there are any really popular ones thats all

[jagged pier]

oh im sure there are probably some from streamers ppl just buy

[long flower]

https://quazii.com/the-war-within-plater-nameplates-profile/

[marsh stone]

Anyone done Mists with the new affix this week?

With a shit healer?

[inner wren]

What’s your actual question

[marsh stone]

Just fishing for feedback on the new affix

[neon elk]

Ive did run with a shit healer, was not good, has nothing to do with mists tho

[fervent dune]

i just did a another weekly 10 mists and paid attention to my shield block usage. https://i.imgur.com/1qb0qVh.png

My issue was not pooling rage at the end of pulls and thus not having shield block up instantly when i got into a new pull. Ill try to get it to 95% xd

thank you

[marsh stone]

nice work

[neon elk]

Ive had healer that had issues with with doing it quickly enough in dawnbreaker, and u can imagine how much last boss can heal with his Raid HP

[inner wren]

They fixed that

[neon elk]

Did they? When?

[marsh stone]

Yeah that's the issue, we had trouble on Mistcaller as the healer was running around too much and not dispelling/healing so the boss would get 2 to 3 heals

[marsh stone]

Earlier today

[neon elk]

Och, nice, i did it at morning , was linda surprised we landed after intermisiom and boss had 70% ngl

[marsh stone]

The Dawnbreaker
When modified by Xal'atath's Bargain: Devour, the amount of healing Rasha'nan can receive has been adjusted to be more appropriate for the encounter.

Coming later today: Xal’atath’s Guile now increases enemy health and damage by 10% (was 20%).

[tribal wharf]

somebody hada bad key

[marsh stone]

Yep.

[lusty grotto]

oh

i guess 12s wont be as massive a jump now

[tribal wharf]

more "world first" 13 14s

[lusty grotto]

eh

there have been 14s for a while

hmm...

i guess thats an overall good thing?

well

outside of rank 1 keys

[marsh stone]

Hoping so

[lusty grotto]

its a good change for everyone else

[marsh stone]

At least means if you mess it up having thrown all your javellins at once you haven't tanked your key

[tribal wharf]

30% is a massive nerf

[strong forum]

its good for the health of the game

[lusty grotto]

yea

also you can

stagger spears

so its an overall win

[dreamy pulsar]

guys im lolst on which embelisment to craft was checking some raiderio dorki, etc and eveyrone have differents embelishment. Any reocmmendation

[tribal wharf]

still, NW probably one of the keys i will run the least

[strong forum]

dusk/dawn for keys

[lusty grotto]

anyway those NW changes are for next reset

[tribal wharf]

mists is short, but painful,

[lusty grotto]

they wont be live today

[tribal wharf]

can do that one fast easy

[marble night]

anyone have any idea how much % the Skeletal Monstrosity gives now? in NW

[lusty grotto]

routing might also change

since

[marble night]

or we just gotta wait huh

actually wait its 20%

[tribal wharf]

i have some weakaura or plater thing

and it shows the amount of % on a monster

[lusty grotto]

monstrocity is 6.02%

[marble night]

sooo it went from 6.02% to 7.22%

[lusty grotto]

or 20 count

[marble night]

pretty nice

[dreamy pulsar]

but on wep and shield?

[lusty grotto]

will give 24 count after

because buffs are done count based

at least since the double down on this exp

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

gatekeepers though

third time they're nerfed

they really want us to pull those

great change also

good for the game

[strong forum]

no

armor and shield

[dreamy pulsar]

but should i craft the wep 636 or nah? doiun 10s alreayd

[inner wren]

now they just gotta increase the gilded crests you get when youre massively behind so my alt tanks arent suffering

[high wyvern]

Best upgrade for prot is shield

[lusty grotto]

true

i might actually do keys with alts now

[jagged gust]

the crest discount is already pretty nice

[inner wren]

ya at least 8s can be blasted

time to geat my prot pally and vdh

[tribal wharf]

surprised vampire bdk isnt popular this week

he would just deathstrike vampire strike way to victory

i want to play and like that spec

[dreamy pulsar]

should i sim the stats on shield or go hastte vers?

[lusty grotto]

haste crit

[dusky canopy]

NW changes are real nice

[lusty grotto]

for sure

[dusky canopy]

Probably can spread out 3 spears on 3 bosses now

[lusty grotto]

yup

[real fossil]

just make depleted keys give 12 crests

[dusky canopy]

Overall faster dungeon

Win win

[real fossil]

and give bonus valorstones for timed keys

[quick elk]

Hey all is there some WA to add on that plays a warning sound if I’m about to lose aggro to the Off tank, I know I should just play better. But wld be nice to have a warning if my brain has started to switch off

[dusky canopy]

1 timed key equals one upgrade not this random 12 shit??

[real fossil]

12 for depleted 15 for timed would also be welcomed lol

4 upgrades every 5 timed dungeons is woof

[dusky canopy]

Yeah it’s like that specifically to time gate

I understand the amount we get being capped but imo it’s unnecessary to slow down how quickly we can obtain them

[jagged gust]

details has a threat option

[quick elk]

Ah yes I did forget about that , thanks

[chilly brook]

It’s a good change but in practice I don’t think it does much of anything. You’re still “forced” into 10s for gear track reasons which means they continue to be more difficult than they should be because people who have no business being in them are doing them

[lusty grotto]

agreed

[chilly brook]

If you’re maxing out your vault you’re going to get all the crests for that week in the 8 keys you’re going to do (assuming you time them)

[lusty grotto]

its a good step forward but its not all there yet

[chilly brook]

Good changes overall, I just think they need to go one step further and make 9s be the myth track reward

[fluid widget]

If all your gear is 619 (besides crafted shield) would you craft a 636 weapon or embellishment?

[hot willow]

Hello New to tanking i have sometimes some hole in my rage and ability with like iron pain ending Shield block off and no rage, thunderclap on cd, Shield slam too, feeling totaly naked, how Handle this ? More haste ? Got 22%

[lusty grotto]

weapon

[fluid widget]

Cheers thanks Nim

[lusty grotto]

are you saying you're rage starving?

if you have no rage

for SB

[fluid widget]

Any logs? You should be aiming to have shield block as close to 100% uptime while tanking

[lusty grotto]

you're rage starving

that means youre pressing IP (ignore pain) way too much

[hot willow]

What does that mean?

Oh ok

[lusty grotto]

you press Ignore Pain at 70+ rage

only

[hot willow]

I try close to 60+

[lusty grotto]

ok

then whats the problem, maybe i misunderstood

im guessing iron pain = ignore pain

in your question

[hot willow]

But when i enter a pack it disappear to much

[lusty grotto]

what disappears

[hot willow]

iP

[lusty grotto]

thats fine

youll get it up anyway

youre not dying if youre missing IP

you die if you dont have SB up

make sure you have SB up

[hot willow]

So even with IP not up i wait 60+ rage ?

[lilac olive]

don't turn your back on mobs cause that makes your blocking ineffective

[lusty grotto]

correct

IP is not your main mitigation

shield block is

shield block needs to be up as much as possible

as close to 100% uptime as you possibly can

90%+ realistically

[hot willow]

Yeah sb im quite ok on it

[lusty grotto]

ok then you should be fine

[hot willow]

But trying to have a big uptime on both is maybe my prob

[high wyvern]

ive been watching streaming / youtube of high IO prot warr tank to improve myself

i came across this, is this true?

[lusty grotto]

no

35-40% for ITF

if you watch that sreamer (which we know who he is)

dont watch him for prot advice

watch him for how to route / manage their groups

and what strats their groups do

his prot advice is really bad

[turbid shuttle]

if you're taking bolster also, 20% with ITF is probs enough. the question is: why take a point out of something else and put it in bolster, just so you can swap HR -> ITF

[high wyvern]

what streamer / youtuber should i watch then?

[lusty grotto]

you can watch him

like i said

but if you have prot specific questions, just ask us

[silver pagoda]

https://i.imgur.com/WTIHpvF.png
Reflectable implies it does no damage and the damage is dealt back to the mob right?

[lusty grotto]

read the comment

deflect means you take no damage

but the damage isnt reflected

as in, it deals no damage back to the enemy

[wicked pollen]

nim another yoda 🐑

[lusty grotto]

no, thats him

same one

🙂

[wicked pollen]

🙂

[reef hazel]

Misunderstood this and got deleted a while back lmaoo

[silver pagoda]

Ah gotcha, I griefed a warrior in my guild by telling him to stand in the purple cone and spell reflect and he still got f*cked

[wicked pollen]

good

kill them

[lusty grotto]

uhh

i dont think you understood me

[tender reef]

my m plus experience in a nutshell

[wicked pollen]

no i mean the warrior

[lusty grotto]

deflect means you take no damage

[pallid quiver]

I mean to be fair, if you do pick up bolster like that mentions, you'll at least still have full SB uptime if you're grabbing the other talents; it's funny jank as fuck, but if you still have the SC cap, Enduring, and Bolster, it'd be 100% uptime still iirc

[wicked pollen]

i thought you meant me

[lusty grotto]

but you do not reflect the damage back

[deft mortar]

Still can't belive how fkn shite my vault was

[tender reef]

i just had a chest dropped in ara kara after about 10 keys with no loot

a chest which i got a mythic in vault

[pallid quiver]

Unrealistic M+ experience, you had a DPS actually deal damage

[tender reef]

brooo

[deft mortar]

623 waist not upgrade, 623 cloak not upgrade, and 623 refracting.. I got refracting so atleast I could upgrade my trinkets for free

[tender reef]

he was my premade lol

the mage was the key holder

[lusty grotto]

yeah true

[deft mortar]

Ive been doing some low keys for shits and giggles and

[pallid quiver]

Unrealistic M+ experience, you had friends actually run with you

[deft mortar]

Gotta say M 5 with a bad group is harder than M11

[tender reef]

true took about a week to make it happen

[deft mortar]

It's insane

[tender reef]

so true

[pallid quiver]

Nim's turned me down every time I asked because I ask him at like 11 PM at night at the earliest because that's when I sometimes give enough of a fuck to play

[tender reef]

im already late for bed for 2 hours

but checked my logs and got SMADGE

https://tenor.com/view/angy-angy-cat-angry-kitty-cat-gif-8091249197369074485

also i got fking chest out of ara kara

my trinket is 593 GAME PLEASE

but i def got better at mountain man, even though i dont think i play it like @strong forum wants me to

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AW2DmQHGBMxw9bhT#fight=2&type=summary

idk feels weird

i wanna be collos again

[strong forum]

Outburst usage is ass

Besides that breakdown looks better

You should also play thunderlord instead of show of force

General cpm breakdown could use some more work aswell

[oak ivy]

I think i'm a decent enough player, 625 ilvl, possibly getting trialed on M Rasha'nan tonight. How sweaty should i expect to be

[wicked pollen]

fully gemmed enchanted consumed and doing sim damage

[strong forum]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xrRpvn2HzAqXF8hP#fight=1&type=casts&source=2

[wicked pollen]

the bare min

[strong forum]

You can compare your log to mine if you want @tender reef

[torn rover]

Dumb question also cuz i dont always tank whats prot's filler ability?

[tender reef]

thanks boss

[strong forum]

Just don't die, that's all the give a shit about

[tender reef]

cpm ?

[strong forum]

We don't have one

[strong forum]

Casts per minute

[torn rover]

Oh ok so is it just auto attacks and shield slam?

and Rend lol

[strong forum]

No, your goal is to keep a steady rotation

SS > tc > revenge

Is the priority list

Which means don't overspend rage on revenge nor ignore pain

Getting shieldslam resets is what matters

[torn rover]

Gotcha

[oak ivy]

(someone correct me if im wrong) our thunderclap applies rend, no reason to have the actual rend button bound even

[shell fox]

rate my ui (ignore my keybinds)

[strong forum]

I recommend checking out the wowhead rotation page

[tender reef]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AW2DmQHGBMxw9bhT#fight=2&type=damage-done

would you check this one too, do you think this one is better than the ara kara one ? or same issues ❤️

[strong forum]

Yes rend should not be keybound

[marsh stone]

Is that your whole screen?

[strong forum]

That one is the same

[lusty grotto]

thats just naowhui

[strong forum]

I'm personally not a fan of the UI but whatever works for you works for you

[lusty grotto]

with actions bar moved up, instead of any class WA

idk

i use naowhui too

with nome's warrior WA

[marsh stone]

Thank goodness. I'd have action bars right at the bottom and use WAs for tracking any abilities you need to see easily but that's just me. I prefer having the middle clean so I can see the whole fire I'm standing in

[lusty grotto]

i prefer them hidden

[marsh stone]

Yeah fair enough too, but I'm old 😛

[lusty grotto]

the more you look at your buttons the less youre looking at your screen

[strong forum]

You inadvertently will look at the action bars if you don't hide them

[lusty grotto]

im probably older

[strong forum]

Which diminishes the usefulness of the WAs

It's unnecessary distraction at that point

[tender reef]

my avatar and demo are shit, i cast too many TCs

[zealous goblet]

hey guys should i drop ravager for bsv

sorry it's daily ritual

[tender reef]

i need a weakaura for those spells

[strong forum]

I recommend my WA package

[marsh stone]

I doubt that 😄

[wicked pollen]

nome rate the breakdown https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KQ6pRcYD18hjT4BL#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=5

[strong forum]

It turns TC red when outburst is ready, to notify you not to press it

[strong forum]

[lusty grotto]

are you 50?

[strong forum]

Nim is old angy man

[wicked pollen]

it was accident i swear

[tender reef]

where you get all those executes from ?

[lusty grotto]

im not 50 lol

[strong forum]

He prioritises execute

With his shitty execute build

[marsh stone]

Not far to go now, lets call it a draw 😉

[tender reef]

ahh void

[wicked pollen]

i played the wrong build i swearp

[strong forum]

[wicked pollen]

by accident

it was accident

[zealous goblet]

hey nome i was asking around a few days ago, how high do you think you could climb keys if you rawdogged wow? default install. no wa. no new bindings (meaning only action bar 1 binds). no addons. your entire crew has this restriction applied.

[strong forum]

The mobs ran into my execute it's not my fault

[tender reef]

mhhhhh

[lusty grotto]

well welcome to the skyhold silver club (also known as the boomer club)

[strong forum]

Keys with just default UI and everything?

[tender reef]

[lusty grotto]

its me, sense, yogi, and uhh you i guess

[zealous goblet]

like literally EVERYTHING default

[marsh stone]

https://tenor.com/view/fireworks-happy4th-of-july-celebration-gif-14483848

[zealous goblet]

so if you wanna use spells not bound on action bar one you gotta spellbook em

[strong forum]

Whatever title is

[zealous goblet]

your entire crew has it

[strong forum]

What

[zealous goblet]

restrictions

[strong forum]

Even Action bars

[zealous goblet]

ye

like default install bro

no finagling

[strong forum]

Then fuckin maybe +7s

[zealous goblet]

you only got one action bar on a fresh install

[marsh stone]

lack of plates would really get to me

[tender reef]

thanks anyway nomeratur, will try tomorrow ❤️ have a good one yall im way past beddy bed mc bed bed bedstein

[zealous goblet]

the lack of autoloot would get me

[wicked pollen]

you need more than one bar to play no

[zealous goblet]

heroics would be harder than mythic

[marsh stone]

😄

[zealous goblet]

well yes but actually no

spellbook gaming

[marsh stone]

Actually yeah, default means no bindings, I'm not even sure I can play by clicking

[wicked pollen]

type rhat shit again im going tohave a nice message for you in dms

🙂

[zealous goblet]

the only binding default is action bar 1

[half hemlock]

anyone have thoughts on the Reactive webbed Escutcheon shield

[lusty grotto]

yes the thought is garbage

[sick trellis]

should we spec into this for m+ this week?

[zealous goblet]

use if higher ilvl than your current shield. discard asap

[lusty grotto]

just craft a shield

[zealous goblet]

no tell your team to do their job

[wicked pollen]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fMDdZg12k9J37bWP#fight=8&type=casts&source=5 nome actual breakdown with normal talents 🙂

are my ss casts low?

[zealous goblet]

bitter immunity cd too long to be worth shit

[marsh stone]

Haven't seen it confirmed as actually working personally but shouldn't be necessary

[marsh stone]

exactly

[zealous goblet]

you get like 1/3 affixes fixed

[lusty grotto]

it works

[zealous goblet]

still need to trust your team

[lusty grotto]

its just not worth getting

[wicked pollen]

is the affix not every 90?

so every 2

1/2

[zealous goblet]

idr

either way its not up every affix so not worth

[wicked pollen]

but its not worth anyway

shaman does it in 1 global

[zealous goblet]

if you're looking for a cleanse i recommend a keto diet

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-22265960

[delicate iron]

Does Rallying cry clasify as heal when it comes to the affix?

[marsh stone]

Anyone done a high stonevault? EDNA an issue with the dispel and the affix overlapping?

[marsh stone]

no, max health

[delicate iron]

K

[zealous goblet]

what do i do if my friend doesnt notice me bringing defensive trinkets

[wicked pollen]

why are you bringing defensive trinkets

[zealous goblet]

hes the one that held me at gunpoint and told me to bring BSV, so i dialed it to 11 and used the taunt thing and swarmguard, and he said "i dont notice it"

[lusty grotto]

@chilly brook am i using SCK at all when Keg/BK are on cd in dungeons or is it just tiger palm to trigger flurry strikes?

[wicked pollen]

[zealous goblet]

i tried to tell him i dont notice bsv

shit triggers on what i dont need it on

[wicked pollen]

rhen just dont play with it

[zealous goblet]

he's held me at gunpoint

[wicked pollen]

0 chance you let some guy who doesnt play your class what talents to pick

[zealous goblet]

he's the healer

quality healers hard to come by

[wicked pollen]

hes mentally handicapped

[zealous goblet]

;-;

[wicked pollen]

a quality healer isnt lacking in mental capcity

find a log of you taking bsc proccing it

9/10 its group or healer fault

[zealous goblet]

lemme see if we even have one

[wicked pollen]

look

[zealous goblet]

MAN

[wicked pollen]

just dont take it

[zealous goblet]

I'M ON YOUR SIDE HERE

[wicked pollen]

i know

[zealous goblet]

I'M JUST ASKING WHAT TO DO ABOUT DEFENSIVE TRINKETS IS THAT A GREENLIGHT TO GO APE MODE

I LOVE YOU

[wicked pollen]

the one that does more damage so you take less damage

[pallid quiver]

That's the real thing about defensive trinkets is that their actual impact is hard to feel unless they're fairly novel; even good defensive trinks end up there, like the revised Dreadplates from DF

Unless it effectively gives you invincibility or something, they won't really be noticed, whether they're good or bad, just due to how damage comes in and what players are trained to recognize

which is generally "problem" or "not problem"

[sharp gale]

Like the Lady Ashvane trinket

[zealous goblet]

nvm no log fouind

rip[

[wicked pollen]

🙂

scatter i know we are on same side but your healer needs to be in prison

[zealous goblet]

oh shit i got a swarmgland in my bags when did this happen

i still have sacbrood and skam shard tho

[pallid quiver]

Oh no, it's unfortunate that a bug occurred and deleted all of your defensive trinkets

[chilly brook]

SCK bad button

exists just to gather things

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-surprised-metal-geaar-rising-revengeance-gif-17637551

[wicked pollen]

idk what a swarmgland is bc i only farmed for dps trinkets

[zealous goblet]

it's like a lesser dreadplate

-30k damage taken per hit

small damage

[lusty grotto]

ok so its just keg/blackout/tigerpalm

[chilly brook]

and RSK

[pallid quiver]

I don't think I've ever pressed SCK

[zealous goblet]

whats a sck

[chilly brook]

RSK good button

[lusty grotto]

spinning crane kick

hmm

but RSK doesnt aoe

neither does tiger palm

or am i wrong

[chilly brook]

BoK/KS>TP w/BoC>RSK>TP

[chilly brook]

no but it does other things

[lusty grotto]

yeah ig

ok so i wasnt far off at least

[chilly brook]

RSK triggers your chi wave

for example

also just big dam

[pallid quiver]

it also just hits kinda hard for zero reason

yeah that

For the record, it also doesn't proc BoC, so you can use it to stall for whatever reason

[deft mortar]

I forgot what my 11 key is

Ooo it's SoB

Ez key

The new affix is annoying as shit tho

[pallid quiver]

I've yet to see a group that can live last boss of SoB

[chilly brook]

RSK can also spawn more healing spheres

[pallid quiver]

It's normally like 2 people alive by the end if we're lucky

[chilly brook]

So

[fleet flicker]

TIL I've been tanking 10s and 11s all this time with an int weapon

[lusty grotto]

im not playing BoC

[deft mortar]

U have bad healers and DPSers then

[pallid quiver]

shame

[deft mortar]

I love how it has 0 tank mechanics

Lol

Just chilling

Wish it had some tank mechanics instead so goddamn dps wouldn't have to use their head

[pallid quiver]

There's tank mechanics when I'm on my Pala

[lusty grotto]

idk i went with peak talents

[deft mortar]

God forbid DPS think

[pallid quiver]

They don't recommend BoC by default because it's very easy to play it incorrectly

[chilly brook]

BoC fucks

[pallid quiver]

Using it on, uh..... the stagger clearing button brew

Is really, really bad

[deft mortar]

Go with a Warlock for healthstones and make them have an Imp for additional dispel and get a Disci priest as healer @pallid quiver

[graceful kite]

Isnt it basically press bok after palm

[deft mortar]

Idk why but Discis are so damn good for that boss

Like insanely good

[chilly brook]

only thing I don't like about BoC now is it's much harder to send on TP

[pallid quiver]

other way around

[chilly brook]

because all the keg resets

[deft mortar]

Brewmasters are not real tanks, I won't change my mind

[graceful kite]

Ye forgot its not tiger combo

[pallid quiver]

Blackout Kick causes the combo to activate, and you want to spend it on TP (sometimes breath of fire iirc)

[graceful kite]

Breath on aoe palm in st

[chilly brook]

If you can yeah usually TP is the best to spend it on, but there's moments when it's better to do it for other things

[chilly brook]

nah

[deft mortar]

Only 2 tank specs exist Prot warr and Pala. And prot palas are support tanks

[chilly brook]

Really doesn't have anything to do with aoe vs st

[pallid quiver]

I think breath's been outpaced by TP entirely this xpac

[graceful kite]

I should level my brew this week

[deft mortar]

I thought this was prot warr channel dang

[pallid quiver]

Breath does give DR, though, when used with BoC

[chilly brook]

ye

[deft mortar]

Not C tier dps spec with taunt channel

[pallid quiver]

At least it's tank talk this time instead of random something else

[chilly brook]

post io

[bleak breach]

It always ends up some random stuff

[deft mortar]

Speaking of random

[pallid quiver]

u wot

[deft mortar]

Why can't we react

[graceful kite]

Tank chat is tank chat

[pallid quiver]

i've got a bajillions of ios

[lusty grotto]

is someone complaining?

[chilly brook]

probably because someone got angry and turned it off

idk

[sharp gale]

But no one will talk about dh tank here to say it’s fun

[deft mortar]

That sounds like a Demon Hunter player thing to do

[chilly brook]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-scratching-nuts-gif-6429140231519519993

[deft mortar]

Warriors can just ignore pain

[chilly brook]

people got banned for this in the past so

[lusty grotto]

i like fel scarred

[deft mortar]

I'd defo get banned

[sharp gale]

Go in the dps with taunt prison

[lusty grotto]

why

its fun

[deft mortar]

Ngl can't play a class around rage and be chill

[sharp gale]

But you can’t be gnome as dh

[lusty grotto]

meta goes brr

[pallid quiver]

DH belongs in the trash on flavor alone

They're the bad kind of edgy

[maiden eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-fun-white-cat-dance-cool-and-fun-times-gif-16435335956387921912

[sharp gale]

How could you have fun if it can’t be gnome and you are the edgy class

[pallid quiver]

They wouldn't vibe with the Shadow the Hedgehog OST

[deft mortar]

I wish spell reflect had 15 sec CD instead

[lusty grotto]

shearchip will remember this

[graceful kite]

I think irl gnomes cant relate

[deft mortar]

Spell Reflect is the best ability in the game

[pallid quiver]

I wish SR scaled how hard you reflected by how hard you mashed the button before you reflected

[deft mortar]

I still need one of u to drop me some info

[graceful kite]

True warrior here

[deft mortar]

Is there a free Revenge from parry limit per min

Or can it proc back to back forever if u parry enough

[chilly brook]

I still need to try vengeance

[pallid quiver]

I'd wager there's an expected ppm it works towards, but you can check to be specific on the Wowhead page

i just need this damn bear to spawn, though, tbh

[deft mortar]

If so, at what parry% does Barbaric Training outperform Sidearm from the free procs vs a normal pack of idk 3 mobs in Colossus Revenge spec

[chilly brook]

it's ppm iirc

or rppm

[deft mortar]

That's hurtful

[chilly brook]

like 3 a minute

[deft mortar]

So parry chance doesn't even increase it rly 😦 sadge

[chilly brook]

but I'm also going off memory

So could be completely wrong

[deft mortar]

I just love 1M revenge crits

[frosty mango]

colossus prot is crankin

just ripped out 700k on sikran

[pallid quiver]

griff i need you to invite me to a group in a shard that has this doodad rare alive, kthx

[deft mortar]

Man it's smth else, can sustain 1.5M dps vs 5 dummies forever

[chilly brook]

Maybe when I'm not at work

[deft mortar]

Mists first boss, I crit bro Demolish last hit for 10M

lol

[pallid quiver]

who is your supervisor, who do i contact to adjust the terms of your work duties

[deft mortar]

With spear

[frosty mango]

im still rolling thane for m+, really need snap threat from blast

[deft mortar]

Ez +11 timed

[frosty mango]

these yoyos do not like to hold dps

[chilly brook]

Brother they're about to be adjusting them to "Griff said shove it up our bums and quit"

[leaden nymph]

Got a weird question. If all my gear is 619 except my sword and shield, but I got a 616 crossbow from a heroic raid, if I upgrade the crossbow to 619 and equip it will I get the achievement that will make me not need runed crests anymore?

[pallid quiver]

hardest i've laughed yet today

[deft mortar]

1 singular Revenge

I'd reccomend

[pallid quiver]

people keep asking this and i really just don't know

[bleak breach]

Correct me if I’m wrong but Mountain Thane is ahead of colossus in all aspects now.

[pallid quiver]

I almost feel like asking you to try it just so we can find out

[frosty mango]

I dunno what dps you're running with but 1 revenge isn't holding threat on some of these peeps dropping 6-7m dps on an aoe pack

[bleak breach]

Only point of playing colossus is different gameplay

[deft mortar]

Yeah about that, my pop off on aoe packs goes up to 3M

[bleak breach]

You can pop off massive on big packs in thane too, plus sustain is much better

[frosty mango]

you also get aoe stun // intervene shield in thane which is honestly s tier

[chilly brook]

just do more damage

[bleak breach]

Yeah and thane actually does more damage since recent buff

[deft mortar]

Spear > Demolish > Shield Charge (Mid Demolish) > Ravager > 10x Revenge

[bleak breach]

Every sim I’ve done for thane is higher plus you don’t die

[deft mortar]

Ur shaman spec won't do more than thay

[frosty mango]

how are you keeping punish up here

[deft mortar]

I am not

[frosty mango]

and what level keys are you doing? that seems like a recipe to get it put it in your bootyhole

[wicked pollen]

11 he said

[frosty mango]

a braver man than me

[bleak breach]

Yeah, doesn’t seem survivable.

[chilly brook]

I wouldn't just spam revenge

but

hey

[bleak breach]

I wouldn’t want to be your healer

100parse for them

[chilly brook]

shield slam hits harder

so

[bleak breach]

^

[chilly brook]

like

[deft mortar]

Bruh I got shield wall on tf

[frail jasper]

Good to know I’ll be playing thane

[chilly brook]

yeah and you're missing out on rage gain

which means less rage spent

[sharp gale]

If it works I would spam revenge

[chilly brook]

and less damage per global

[bleak breach]

And as I said, Thane does more damage now. The only gain you have to playing colossus is liking colossus

[chilly brook]

and less damage overall because less avatar

[frosty mango]

you also lose a bunch of ignore pain, and sb uptime

and punish

scary scary

[deft mortar]

Big doubt Ravager is up, dots are popping, avatar and demo shout beforehand, spear 20 rage, SC 40 rage u are barely rage uncapped the whole time

[chilly brook]

shield slam crits for what? like 2m?

[bleak breach]

I was playing colossus in raid to parse but now Thane execute build is so far ahead it’s not worth touching colossus

[pallid quiver]

oh no

[deft mortar]

Only with 10 stacks

[bleak breach]

Think my best is 3-4.5

[pallid quiver]

the people i was waiting with left, and then the rare spawned

[chilly brook]

then you're not pressing IP

[deft mortar]

I do but I also get 200-300k IP per sec on that dps

This is my cleave opener

[chilly brook]

10 revenges is a whole lot more than an "opener"

[deft mortar]

I wouldn't take it that literally my guy

[frosty mango]

colossus still simming a good bit ahead of thane for me pure st

[deft mortar]

This ain't a cast sequence

[chilly brook]

you're spamming revenge

[frosty mango]

even with good gear

[chilly brook]

bad idea

[deft mortar]

Nah

[chilly brook]

shield slam is a better button

period

so is TC

[sharp gale]

I think he still shield slam when he has it, he don’t literally press 10x revenge in a row

Right ?

[bleak breach]

Might be my stats then? But every build of colossus vs thane for me thane was way ahead

[deft mortar]

Not while I have too much rage Gen for the first 10 seconds of opener

[sharp gale]

But he just press revenge /shield slam for a very long time so big dmg

[chilly brook]

Like Nom probably does more damage than you and isn't doing goofy things

[chilly brook]

That shouldn't be a problem

You're not pressing IP enough

in that situation

[deft mortar]

I don't need to

[chilly brook]

wdym you don't need to?

[bleak breach]

Are these sims after reset with the buffs to thane damage?

[chilly brook]

It's an off the gcd rage dump

you're overcapping rage

[deft mortar]

I am popping off bruh, my dps is like 3M during my opener

[frosty mango]

yeah i get 718 colossus 710 thane

[deft mortar]

IP gets fed from dps

[chilly brook]

you don't understand why you press IP

smh

you don't press IP for the shield

you press it to spend rage

[bleak breach]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ey4swBtftUDjkbNokFaSjB

[chilly brook]

it's off the gcd

[sharp gale]

What is your overall dps ?

[deft mortar]

Bro I said barely rage uncapped lmao

That means I click ip

[chilly brook]

You can have a full IP and if you're like 70+ rage you still press IP

[bleak breach]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9yiVceChfp2FGw7bno56So

[bleak breach]

Those are mine there

That’s playing double bloodborne on colossus too

So thane much more sustainable

[frosty mango]

oh youre simming 3m

[bleak breach]

IP only gets fed from dose if you’ve got existing ip. Can’t imagine you’ve got any playing like this.

[deft mortar]

Not rly alot tbh, but probably ez pull 1M with good DPSers in smooth 10-11 runs

[bleak breach]

5min ST is the same or are you simming lower?

Colossus will always burst a bit higher

[frosty mango]

im simming 3/5/7/9 and look at avg depending on fight

[deft mortar]

This was an OK run but still had fuck ups

[frosty mango]

but yea mine shake out near yours

[pale badge]

hey folks I"m pretty new to Prot, do we prefer 1h weap or something with embellish (like bracers) for 2nd craft?

[wicked pollen]

#protection-faq

[bleak breach]

Yeah Thane beats colossus on everything for me, no matter what build. Also as you can see I even ran double bloodborne for that sim just to see if I could beat Thane

[sharp gale]

What are the fuck ups ?

[deft mortar]

We cleared too fast to 3rd boss, BL was on CD for 3mins

We BLd last bodd

We didn't BL at start to packs

But BLd first boss

Giga fuck up

[sharp gale]

Yes what about that when did you second bl

[deft mortar]

I am also not doing big pulls because coordination is hard without voice on pugs

Huh?

[sharp gale]

When was your 2nd BL in the dungeon

[deft mortar]

BL big pull first packs, BL 3rd boss with 3 spears

We BLd last boss intead

[sharp gale]

You took less than 10 min to reach trashs before second boss ? After the first pack of dungeon

[deft mortar]

What

[bleak breach]

Guessing it’s a stat thing, but they are super close. There’s just not much benefit at all to Colossus over Thane now sadly

Other then preference

[deft mortar]

First boss BL, less than 10 mins from first boss to 3rd boss

4th boss BL

[pale badge]

doesn't appear to answer the question

[wicked pollen]

embellishments

[pale badge]

I'm doing mostly m+, not terribly sure the value of a weapon for prot warr

[pale badge]

tyvm, that was my gut too. Thanks!

[lusty grotto]

craft weapon (after shield) but dont embelish it

[warm plinth]

Shield then weapon

[lusty grotto]

but yes the guides have it down in them

[warm plinth]

Then embellishments

[pale badge]

well the protection-faq does not appear to address this specific scenario, that's all I can really say!

appreciate everyone

[lusty grotto]

the idea is you go to the guides

and get your answer from there

[sharp gale]

Why you don’t bl the first pack ? You don’t do the gatekeeper pull ?

[bleak breach]

I never pull gatekeepers

[lusty grotto]

you will after next reset

🙂

[sharp gale]

You will yes

[lusty grotto]

cause theyll be super efficient

[bleak breach]

Was just about to say that Nim haha

[sharp gale]

100%

[bleak breach]

Can literally pull whole first room and skip stuff later from next week

[wicked pollen]

isnt the 1st pull of nw just infinitely easier now

[bleak breach]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

1st pull? sure

[pale badge]

I would observe what is listed on WoWhead is different than what people in here have said, so I think there's value in the conversation/question

anyways

[lusty grotto]

but you can tag a gatekeeper with it after reset 😄

[bleak breach]

@lusty grotto are you getting the same with your sims as me? Do you see above

[pale badge]

happy Thursday folks

[bleak breach]

Friday for me 😜

[wicked pollen]

i was doing it with the gatekeeper 🙂

[lusty grotto]

i havent simmed in a while

yeah i dont do that pull

i just mass pull everything else

[bleak breach]

I was playing colossus to parse, but yeah now thane just beats it on everything for me

[lusty grotto]

i dont believe in pulling gatekeepers

[deft mortar]

The casters?

[lusty grotto]

until next reset

[bleak breach]

Kinda nice, but also sad for colossus

[wicked pollen]

my druid with 50 second incarn didnt believe in that

he legit pulled the entire first room

[bleak breach]

I don’t touch gatekeepers normally. Bricked too many keys doing it

[sharp gale]

The pull is really chill, they cost 2 healer cd but you don’t need them after this

[lusty grotto]

nah

im good

[wicked pollen]

its so free

zephyr + resto sham

[lusty grotto]

[deft mortar]

Yo is this same for dungeon slice

[wicked pollen]

at least you can do it next week

[sharp gale]

Trust this pug healer Nim you can do it, put your trust in this stranger

[bleak breach]

I sim 5 target or more for 1:30 for keys and thane beats it too

As far as I’m aware dungeonslice isn’t accurate for tanks

[lusty grotto]

its not a goal for me, i dont care about it, the key is doable with or without

[sharp gale]

I never simmed a mdt route as prot, can we do it or is it weird ?

[lusty grotto]

it can be weird yea

the APL isnt heavily optimized for it

[deft mortar]

Do cleave training dummies have no armor or smth?

[sharp gale]

Okok i know for some dps they « try » to optimize because it’s at least something that isn’t dungeon slice

[lusty grotto]

yeah

depends on the class and discord but, yes some do

[south zealot]

dungeon slice is a fine sim if you understand its both st and aoe

[sharp gale]

I leave my bed to do it just for science

[south zealot]

its not just an aoe sim

[bleak breach]

If you’re checking consistent aoe just do a 1:30 5target sim

[deft mortar]

I sim 1.8M on 5 Patchwerks for 5 mins

[sharp gale]

Dungeon slice is still the same process ? 2 min boss fight then alternating 2-3 mobs pack with 4-5 mobs pack for 4 min ?

[deft mortar]

I got the 10% Stam talent rn tho

And spear instead roar

[lusty grotto]

should be yeah Happy

[bleak breach]

Change to 1:30 for keys. 5min would be a raid situation

[deft mortar]

So I gotta try out the other talents but gotta alog on wow firzt

[bleak breach]

Roar much better then spear for colossus too

[deft mortar]

Yeah this was just to get some more health

[bleak breach]

You not playing spellblock?…

[deft mortar]

Felt more comfy with another 1M in high key

[bleak breach]

Spellblock would feel more comfy than that.

[deft mortar]

I mean no can just reflect

[sharp gale]

What do you mean ? You do 1 m as thane

[bleak breach]

Can reflect 1 cast

[bleak breach]

No 1m hp

[deft mortar]

1M hp

[bleak breach]

How often do you die?

[deft mortar]

Feel like everytging just casts on dps

This expansion

Or I try to reflect but my DPSers interruot

[bleak breach]

Seems like an odd build, but if it’s working each to their own I guess.

[sharp gale]

Hopefully no one can interrupt these shadow flame dots in grim eheheh

[deft mortar]

I don't even know wtf that is and I timed 11

Grim

[tropic tangle]

always this, good thing anima slash can't be interrupted 🙂

[deft mortar]

The Skardyn reflect gives me goosebumps

[bleak breach]

😦

[deft mortar]

7M reflect

[tropic tangle]

hah

[deft mortar]

I think the fire golem smash can be reflected but doesn't dmg back to the golem in Grim Batol 2nd boss area

[sharp gale]

It’s a dot trashs do in grim they start to do it in second boss room it hits like a train if you spell reflect

[tropic tangle]

yeah, acts a deflect not a reflect

but still big stonks, cus that thing smashes too

[deft mortar]

It's god given deflect tho

Sucks to be other tnak specs vs tjat

DKs popping ams and prayinglol

[tropic tangle]

we've got it pretty good for a lot of busters this tier

like EDNA tank buster is just straight blockable

[deft mortar]

The CD on shield wall being like 50 seconds goes hard too

[sharp gale]

But I’m still mad some can just dodge it

[chilly brook]

EDNA buster isn't even bad but healers are just braindead

[chilly brook]

can't

[deft mortar]

Only time I remember running spell block was temple of the jade serpent

[chilly brook]

they fixed that

[fringe socket]

1. Is Mountain a must have for M+? I really don't like the class fantasy of it.
2. Does anyone play without Devastator talent and love to spam it? Or is it too much of a meme?

[sharp gale]

Big sad

[chilly brook]

It was much easier on Brew when you could

at least I could still live if my healer didn't have a brain

[deft mortar]

1. I only play colossus it's based clas fnatasy

2. Pls don't

[chilly brook]

now it's just healer does it properly or I die if no CDs

[fringe socket]

lmao I loved it back in the day while leveling... felt awesome

[deft mortar]

Back in the day as in when shield slam one shot players?

And we could solo dungeons to level?

[chilly brook]

you're already GCD locked, not much of a reason to play without it

[sharp gale]

I always love when you can dodge bosses shit as brew, I don’t remember which boss in nyalotha you could when I played brew

Good old time when weekly hc pug clear is 29 tank and a priest

[chilly brook]

forcing dodge on death loa boi in de other side

"what tank buster?"

[lusty grotto]

ok

monkchip made it to 75

just doing follower priory

ill go back to it tomorrow during my god-forsaken meetings i guess

[sharp gale]

Guys do you actually select bosses on mdt (if you don’t do trash with it) like you create a pull

[lusty grotto]

its up to you

i select them as pulls, other people dont

it doesnt really matter

[sharp gale]

No it’s just curiosity if you do it, I know it doesn’t matter

I just opened mdt to sim it, I noticed I never make a pull for bosses

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats fine

nothing really wrong about it

[deft mortar]

1:30 came at 2.1M

5 patchwerks

What do yall sim vs 5 Patchwerks

Thane guys specifically. 2.5M+?

If it's that big diff I may switch

[sharp gale]

how much % of overall group dmg is a prot warrior on average

[deft mortar]

In m+

?

I'd say one sixth

[sharp gale]

in m+ i don't know how much to put to sim it

[deft mortar]

Assume idk 1.5M per dps 1M prot warr and 500k healer

My resto druid does pump that

Bros cat form half the time

His playstyle is adhd asf

[vapid sage]

how do you guys spec out brann?

[unkempt trout]

how many bloodthirsts does unhinged cast

[deft mortar]

#fury would know

[unkempt trout]

whoops

they probably would

[vapid sage]

Like as far as cuiros go

[sharp gale]

the mdt sim is kinda underwhelming

[deft mortar]

Wots mdt

[bleak breach]

I’m on my phone at work, but my Thane would beat that. Also depends on gear/stats though.

Thane has way better survivability too.

[deft mortar]

Yeye I just simmed ur 5 min vs 5 Patchwerks u beat me but minor

Maybe ud beat me with more margin in 1.5 mins

I am unconvinced if ur own colossus would be beaten by your own thane in 5 Patchwerk 5 min tho

[bleak breach]

My thane beats colossus at everything

[deft mortar]

Mad

[bleak breach]

That’s why I only play thane now

[sharp gale]

give me your colossus m+ talents i just want to sim it with a mdt route just for curiosity

[deft mortar]

CkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEDAAAAzMzMmZGMbzsMzMz2iZMoZGjxMAziBDYmZMDzYYAAAAAAAzMAALLbAGgNzYYhMwMsQjNsA

This but it's temp rn

I'd replace the 2 stamina with 2 crits

And maybe the spear talents with thunder roar

[upbeat cloud]

Anyone running a fun Colossus tank build for raids?

that they could share

[wicked pollen]

#protection-faq

[deft mortar]

I rly shouldn't use spear with my 7% crit lol

[toxic pewter]

why not

[deft mortar]

Idk I never get crits with such low crit%

The crit dmg goes waste

[sharp gale]

your colossus does sim higher (in mdt sim)

[deft mortar]

Lol

[sharp gale]

like nim said, i don't know if mdt sims are usefull in prot

[deft mortar]

Yeah idk about survival

But I am not having a hard time with surviving

I think my resto druid is insanely good

Like he puts defensives on me before big hits

And my retri sacs me

We coordinate that well

[sharp gale]

the sim i did is only with war buff

and i replaced a talent from your talent tree ( i took spell block)

[deft mortar]

Think uhh u can replace spear with roar too and Stam points with crit for more dmg

Tbf demolish into spear is pretty big

[sharp gale]

for anyone who want to ask what did i sim

[primal narwhal]

is collosus supposed to be higher single target as compared to thane?

[shrewd ore]

yea

but single target gets a lot higher if you go very yolo talents

on both hero trees

[primal narwhal]

yeah i was doing the raid punish/execute thane build

then i saw WCL and quite a few was using collosus for princess

maybe ill try it next week'

[shrewd ore]

Mythic?

[primal narwhal]

nah just heroic

[shrewd ore]

yea you can just go full offense on heroic

[primal narwhal]

i aint got the patience or time for mythic raids anymore

[shrewd ore]

this is the most dps you can run pretty sure

but u get quite a lot squishier, since not a lot of ignore pains

but mostly w/e in hc if ur decently geared

[primal narwhal]

thxs

[shrewd ore]

try and beat me 😛

[primal narwhal]

how many times did collosus crit for u to reach that wtf

[shrewd ore]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/97DCHJpzT6VKYtav#fight=28&type=damage-done&source=527

actually even ran wrong trinkets there, should use double on use

[gusty arrow]

This is cool, how did you make this

[sharp gale]

It’s an mdt sim (some classes use this to theorycraft m+) it’s more a dps spec thing tbh

[deft mortar]

I just play like we still in Dragonflight S1

[sharp gale]

Basically you import your character profile in raidbot with simc, then you export a route with mdt sim wa (you need to specify where you BL, you turn 0 to 1 on the event/pull) and let 27% hp mobs if you are a dps and set the right key lvl

You enable expert mode and you put the mdt sim string in the footer

[high wyvern]

Where do you guys find the route for each dungeons? Streamers? Youtube?

[shrewd ore]

raider.io has some, but high key youtube vids is a good way imo (if they don't do some special skips)

but lots of dungeons this season are basically press forward, so not a lot of routing to do

[sterile elm]

Thinking of starting my prot warrior grind - I know embellishments are kinda eh atm, but as I am new to warrior tanking, and not sure I'll be kept above 80% to justify threads - is the Beladar's Bulwark at all viable?

[shrewd ore]

just use 2x vers thread, beledar no good

even if you play poorly you will get over 50-60% uptime at which point it's already bis

[primal narwhal]

but i see u using crit thread

is that the way to dps as tank lol

[shrewd ore]

ya crit is a bit more dps

[sterile elm]

Is there a delay in threads kicking back in? Say I drop to 75, get back to 100% near instantly does it insta tick back on?

[shrewd ore]

instantly, no delay