I told him way in advance that if he plans on tanking he needs to look at routes and learn boss mechanics.
#protection
lucid rapids
pallid quiver
I told him way in advance that if he plans on tanking he needs to look at routes...
He needs to look at a class guide before any of those
lusty grotto
I told him way in advance that if he plans on tanking he needs to look at routes...
id say he needs to learn how to tank first
pallid quiver
You can get by enough with DBM yelling at you and just holding W through dungeons
lusty grotto
yeah 🤝 luerce
lucid rapids
hes got me all bent out of shape.
lusty grotto
direct him to the guides
to get proper talents
and tell him to KEEP SHIELD BLOCK UP
lucid rapids
i did
lusty grotto
and he should be fine
pallid quiver
As he should, since it sounds like you moderately care about performance, and he's directly spitting on your reason for playing the game for their own enjoyment
lucid rapids
obviously he think its beneath him
pallid quiver
I would just stop playing with them entirely.
lusty grotto
agreed
pallid quiver
To be completely honest, their way of thinking about the game and dealing with situations is too different, so I don't think actual enjoyment can be had.
lucid rapids
I really tried to help him. He's a cool person but just doesn't fuckin listen
lusty grotto
if this is a common occurrence, and not a one off especially
lucid rapids
this is every fuckin m0 we tried.
pallid quiver
Then that's cool, and they should understand that you just don't want to play with him, since your motivations are too far apart.
lusty grotto
if you want to baby steps
just tell him
to keep shield block up
and to pick shield block talents
pallid quiver
It's fine to play different content and not play with people just because their goals are different. You don't see Mythic HoF people going out of their way to personally coddle people up into playing the game if they want to. It's not gatekeeping, it's just a game, and they want to play with like-minded people
lusty grotto
since he seems like hes refusing to read, thats the best you can do
lucid rapids
idk how he is getting through other m0s when im not in the grp (not because im a god dps). idk how the healers are dealing with his lack of mit.
lusty grotto
not well, i can assure you
pallid quiver
some healers are just cracked and mega pilled on nothing other than tank healing
Like, I know some healers have tank PTSD because they go oom off the first pull, pumping 98% overhealing into me
lucid rapids
Well I appreciate you guys listening to my rant and confirming im not smoking crack.
regal yarrow
What's going wrong in my keys that make necrotic wake feel like the hardest key there's ever been, yet overall it's being run at higher levels than something like city of threads, which feels significantly easier at 10 and 11
pallid quiver
What's going wrong in my keys that make necrotic wake feel like the hardest key ...
There's a lot of things that can go wrong, like casts not being covered or scary mobs being pulled, and it's a dungeon the top pushers are used to, so there's minimal learning and already muscle memory for most
lusty grotto
a key that lasted for 3 seasons on SL, is usually easier for experienced players
so naturally it can be pushed higher cause they wont fail basic dungeon mechanics
pallid quiver
When on lower key levels, there's a non-zero chance that half your group hasn't been in there more than like, 4 times
lusty grotto
while that's not true for people just seeing the dungeon right now for the first time
yea
but thats not limited to low keys 🙂
turbid shuttle
I think you should start with "What's going wrong in my keys". Where are you failing?
pallid quiver
I am obligated to say that lower key levels are 10s or less for my comment
Since those are the levels most likely to be touched by pugs and random players
regal yarrow
I mean here's the key I'm talking about specifically, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MwbrHc87fdDAQGXK#fight=20
Yeah there were a lot of deaths, but in like a siege of boralus there's room for multiple wipes, and it doesn't feel like I need to do triple pulls to barely meet the timer
tribal wharf
threads seems like a really easy key over all
winter shard
main issue for me in CoT is the frantic movement of the dps during the first boss and no matter how much I adjust for them they manage to stun me
deft mortar
I am obligated to say that lower key levels are 10s or less for my comment
Ye I run dps build for 10s
I have a team but we sorta don't do above 10s either
Just no point
More fun to do mad logs in 10s than do a 12
pallid quiver
I mean here's the key I'm talking about specifically, https://www.warcraftlogs.c...
Well, for starters, dying less will save you almost 4 minutes based on the Wake key attached to that log
You're also dropping SB a lot, blocking only 67% of melees coming your way, so the healer is having to babysit you instead of your team during periods of high party damage, leading to the above, likely
quasi pivot
main issue for me in CoT is the frantic movement of the dps during the first bos...
Having one dispelld a few seconds in and the other once it expires makes it a lot easier than both going off simultaneously.
deft mortar
What key level does Warcraft logs register
Because these overalls seem pretty low, so it can't be 10s
warm plinth
If you don't set a specific key level, it's all key levels.
Log DPS will never be as high as Details DPS
warm plinth
yes
deft mortar
Any % estimate of how much lower?
deft mortar
I'll tank for u (I'll brick ur key)
pallid quiver
I don't think my shaman even has a key
deft mortar
Kekw
pallid quiver
All I've really done on my shaman is raid for some friends from time to time
pallid quiver
if you're na, i've got bad news for that one
deft mortar
I'm EU lol
pallid quiver
Had a feeling
grim pilot
Any % estimate of how much lower?
depends on a lot of factors and dungeon but generally like 15-20% on avg ig
urban portal
It’s mainly downtime that causes difference
winter shard
Having one dispelld a few seconds in and the other once it expires makes it a lo...
absolutely, but that rarely happens with my healers in pugs 😛
deft mortar
depends on a lot of factors and dungeon but generally like 15-20% on avg ig
ait nice I aint slacking either then lol
timber night
Is there a reason shield charge isn't pressed while charging? Never played prot warrior before so I'm just a big confused with the single target opener on the icyveins guide
timber night
hmm okay maybe a dumb question
pallid quiver
Also, it doesn't work right
If you shield charge while charging, sometimes you only get the benefit of one and not the other, while still putting both on CD
most notable if you only get the rage from normal charge, and nothing from shield charge
tropic tangle
man, aren't evokers supposed to be doing somewhat decent personal dps these days?
simple drum
Anyone stoked for the Mountain Thane buffs tomorrow?
toxic pewter
they nerfing my rage
simple drum
Still an overall buff
toxic pewter
meh
tropic linden
For all the chads that did ?? As prot, how do u deal with spit? I use avatar for one but sometimes it's not up for the other.
Just did a try where i had 20s CD for avatar when the second spit happened
sick shell
For Prot Trinkets I don't know which one I should use in a Raid scenario: I currently use a 610 Quickwick Candlestick, 610 Spelunker's Waning Candle, I also have 613 Detachable Fang, 610 Ovi'nax Egg, 610 Concoction: Kiss of Death.
Just curious if I should just follow the sims, witch tells me to use Fang and Kiss of Death
drifting fable
sim is correct, fang is genuinely pretty good for ST. only one that i could see being close is ovinax egg but my sims put KoD and fang pretty high usually
sick shell
Thank you thank you :D
sleek bolt
Can we ignore the pull in mechanic on last boss ara kara?
tropic linden
U can leap if u time right
jagged gust
I believe if you charge as the big suck goes off after the cast finishes, I was trying it out last night and charge seems to make it rather funky
drifting dagger
I love the big succcc
jagged gust
drifting dagger
I usually just leap 2 a puddle is there a diff technique that others like?
dawn geode
if you leap within like 1 second of the cast finishing you can ignore it but its just better to do the mechanic
fervent axle
I've been having a massive issue with mobs ninja pulling from far away in M+, it's happening every key I do, sometimes twice and is causing wipes but I can 't find it being talked about anywhere. The constant in my runs is pwar, afflock, and Rsham. Has anyone had this issue?
inner wren
nop
drifting dagger
deft mortar
I've been having a massive issue with mobs ninja pulling from far away in M+, it...
my constant problem are retri paladins
accidentally doing it
fervent axle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klfo6QuApNs
This is constantly happening to my group.
quasi pivot
Just did a try where i had 20s CD for avatar when the second spit happened
Bitter immunity?
keen escarp
whats a good craft after shield
inner wren
my fatass cant taunt the mobs thru the wall right before mists boss 2
am i dumb or what
sleek bolt
Do we use whirlwind at all?
inner wren
as prot? no
zealous goblet
so this is gonna sound dumb, is there any way i can see if BSV actually popped at a useful time or not?
is there a damage mitigated tab or some shit for that buff
dusky summit
Does anyone know if you have 3 embelishments but they're the same ones (duskthread lining), if it just counts as 2 and doesn't "disable" out? Asking because I play arms/prot and currently have bracers/shield, but want to craft boots so I can have both
boreal heath
How big of a defensive upgrade is a shield? Currently have a 580 one that I haven't been able to get rid of wondering if crafting a higher ilvl shield would make a noticeable diff
winter shard
Do we use whirlwind at all?
nope
tulip warren
How big of a defensive upgrade is a shield? Currently have a 580 one that I have...
The most important
boreal heath
The most important
How noticeable is a good ilvl shield
lusty grotto
very
lusty grotto
How noticeable is a good ilvl shield
very noticeable
quasi pivot
Are there listed values somewhere on wowhead that we can access to calculate properly the increased block % and armor DR % vs mythic+ from each shield?
That's something that would be a VERY useful addition to Pawn
warm plinth
Wowhead doesn't even show block value on shields so
The formula is Block = BR/(BR+k) where BR is Block Rating on your shield
K is a value assigned by Blizzard by content type
violet ginkgo
do you have info on the K list value?
warm plinth
Yeah we would just need some numbers from in-game.
But simple answer is shield go up, block number go up
lusty grotto
when S1 released i wanted to calculate them but i just keep forgetting
and im def not gonna do them now cause 
time
warm plinth
Yeah it's generally just time consuming and unnecessary other than for posterity's or curiosity's sake.
merry sluice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klfo6QuApNs
This is constantly happening to my g...
can literally see a demon go running on down
well
'see' is a strong word since the first half is about 4p
oh its jsut discord being shit
yeah. demon doggie just wandered on down.
violet ginkgo
and im def not gonna do them now cause <:bedge:882323848844963860> time
before bedge time uh... this might be quite embarassing question but what do I do with the stag flip from the mob at raid area?
the one where you go to brood and you got thrown so far.
proven patio
before bedge time uh... this might be quite embarassing question but what do I d...
The answer is in your question. He is flipping you. Just make sure he flips you into a wall. You turn the mob just right because it flips you over its back. And as a warrior you can even charge and leap back if you time it.
merry sluice
turn around
keep your back towards a ledge. he throws you backwards
(or just leap out)
(or be a chad dk and DA 😉 )
zealous goblet
i just wanted malygos shield
the game keeps giving me mounts when i hunt for transmog
violet ginkgo
don't you like mount? XD
zealous goblet
i mean, kind of, but i'm spoken for already
i just wanted some sick prot transmog
jagged pier
it will deflect it
reef hazel
Hey guys I'm new to looking at wcl, what does parse% mean when it comes to tanks? Is it just DPS too?
jade tartan
are you sure, because the reflect sheet says its reflectable! and ive personally done dmg with it. But it does not show in logs
zealous goblet
read
i think warriors are not known for literacy whats next u gonna tell us to iceblock a tankbuster
sheesh
sweet summit
Hey guys I'm new to looking at wcl, what does parse% mean when it comes to tanks...
dps ye
zealous goblet
wait
jade tartan
Frenzy
zealous goblet
ye
i was a bit young when i played it thought
though
like VERY young
so i never got into the mechanical side of things i just threw my body against shit like any other dumb kid
jade tartan
dunno how old u r rn. ive played it in my early teenage years
zealous goblet
i played it when i was like 9
jade tartan
so u are something like 28
zealous goblet
close enough - but yeah
i wonder if there was actual threat in that game
or if tanking fuctioned
i need to buy it on steam or some shit one day
sweet summit
i'm a threat in that game
orchid gulch
Bethesda threat, it just works. releases skyrim for smart fridge
cursive leaf
I tried the double shield wall Talent... Its felt waaaay better
reef hazel
What are some metrics worth looking at in logs to check performance?
I'm looking at hits blocked, rage wasted etc is there anything else big?
jagged pier
theres an aug there
south zealot
nuh uh
jagged pier
south zealot
i tried to join a group with an aug monk druid and enhance but they didnt accept me
idk why
my io is beans unlucky
tired forge
just statring my prot warrior again and noticed people using a bunch of different embellishments, Is there a recommended set? I checked the pins but dont think i saw anything
urban lotus
My 610 warr feels a lot more tanky than my 622 guardian god damn I feel like a big donkey for rolling guardian 
tired forge
im also rerollling off druid haha
urban lotus
Lolll same here
urban lotus
After getting a spectacular ass pounding in +12s I pretty much rage quitted guardian
tired forge
After getting a spectacular ass pounding in +12s I pretty much rage quitted guar...
yuppppppppp same here, got to 2650 and im thinking, is this easier on war???
urban lotus
yuppppppppp same here, got to 2650 and im thinking, is this easier on war???
It does seem that way, I tanked +9s as 608 ilvl it was a breeze lmao
This class is giga broken
jagged pier
no?
merry sluice
bruh i dont even feel like i've reached the point of "oh god my survival" on any spec yet
i just keep watching people in pugs do the most
jagged pier
608 is fine for 9s
urban lotus
608 is fine for 9s
Yeah if you’re good
jagged pier
just sounds like you arent quite play druid correctly, but a good druids hp at 622 shouldnt be moving
urban lotus
LoL ok buddy
merry sluice
i mean, if my dk could chill in a 10 at 605, im certain a warrior can sleep through a 9 at 608
urban lotus
Tell that to mobs that auto attack you to death through your barkskin
merry sluice
:thonk:
jagged pier
i mean we have warriors at that lvl that dont use SB
urban lotus
Have you even attempted anything beyond a 10?
jagged pier
jagged pier
Have you even attempted anything beyond a 10?
yep 11s are a joke
urban lotus
You are clearly clueless about how hard 12s are
jolly cliff
Anyone have any tips for threat at the start of a pull, I feel it's hard to get the defensives rolling and get threat. Fury warrior pal always pulling threat off of me.
merry sluice
why would i push with 20ilvls less gear
BUT THE CLASS IS OP MAN!1!
urban lotus
Copium is strong with this one
tired forge
so we arent using ironfur
i have ironfur on constant spam lol
if i dont have a large cd on every pull ill get chuncked, if i do im fine
ionic adder
You are clearly clueless about how hard 12s are
Bigboy so good.. tell us about it
sweet summit
wtf
urban lotus
Bigboy so good.. tell us about it
Dont worry you will get there, in like 3 months probably
You can see for yourself lmao
tired forge
do most recommend dawnthread or duskthread lining?
sweet summit
for m+ ye
tired forge
im saying whch, seems most are going for vers over crit?
sweet summit
oh, i'm going crit
it sims better for me and the def value from vers seems fake as you're never really in danger when above 80%
golden basin
im saying whch, seems most are going for vers over crit?
Depends on you, once you hit a certain amount of crit versa will be better
For dps
But if you have low crit, crit wins
tired forge
looks like yoda and a few others are rocking ascendance?
sweet summit
raid mains no?
tired forge
no m+
golden basin
You would for raid
tired forge
oh
golden basin
Yeah but you have to prio raid prog and only have so many sparks
golden basin
Unless you keep recrafting
tired forge
ok so m+ would be the 2 threads
golden basin
Or they are doing something I don’t know.
sweet summit
ok so m+ would be the 2 threads
yeah+the double stat one
vapid valley
whats the best blasphemite gem to go for on prot?
sweet summit
move speed 
violet ginkgo
erga wanna go wheeesh
balmy spear
Just got a "Reinforced Wax Plating" trinket, that is an iLvl upgrade to my previous ones... Is it any decent or just rubbish?
jagged pier
Depends what your other trinkets are but its not a great trinket
balmy spear
got Skarmorak shard and Spelunker's waning candle
jagged pier
well u can sim but its probably not better
neon elk
Or they are doing something I don’t know.
Chances are, since he plays mostly in coordinated groups , he can keep good uptime on it .
Then there is also a chance he isnt doing something that good, or worth it for him, or whatever , wont be first time we see that among top players , where they just do whatever thats not realy optimal
cobalt eagle
how does block value % work? removing swarmguards authority increases the block value % to 40.67% and taking off sacbrood increases it more to 41.07%. both trinkets have haste only
sweet summit
how does block value % work? removing swarmguards authority increases the block ...
Block/(Block+K)=BlockDR%
and ye prolly just some weird open world scaling stuff
golden basin
Chances are, since he plays mostly in coordinated groups , he can keep good upti...
Must do a lot of chain pulling yeah. Who knows.
twilit lagoon
Casts Shield Slam if it resets when you want to press Ignore Pain. Replace your Ignore Pain with this, not Shield Slam.
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Shield Slam```
So when playing this macro, I don’t need a separate bind for ignore pain? Or are there still scenarios where I should have an extra bind for ignore pain?no u dont need a separate bind for IP only for SS
twilit lagoon
Thanks mate
raw parcel
Do the nerfs coming today change anything about our build?
jagged pier
nope
errant wagon
Just wanted to share for anyone attempting Zekvir: Just did the "let me solo him" achievement at 614 iLvL using this prot talent build:
I experimented with a lot of things, ultimately I found this build to work for a few reasons:
- Execute at 35% was huge for killing spiders in time
- Shield Charge + Battering Ram was useful for executing spiders as well
- Avatar needed to be held to clear spittles
- I took spell block as a last resort when I couldn't avatar a spittle
- took bran as DPS mode since he would help interrupt lots of the spittle cast.
Took me around 30'ish attempts
raw parcel
And are they even nerfs overall? I see bigger damage, but slightly less rage, not even sure what to make of it.
jagged pier
nah just buffs the rage nerfs change nothing
fierce pier
just sounds like you arent quite play druid correctly, but a good druids hp at 6...
you played guardian this season on12?
jagged pier
no but i play with a guardian
raw parcel
Not sure why they're buffing the fucking Illidan cosplay squad again. Two seasons of them dominating was enough.
jagged pier
and his hp doesnt move
fierce pier
does he do 12?
jagged pier
youll have to ask him
fierce pier
i bet he does not
even if he does he is being carried by an aug
im not saying you need aug but holy shit guardians are squishy you are constantly feeling like u r fucking dying even in incarn
one small mistake and you flatline
raw parcel
I also had that experience, but I'm not a very good bear.
Kinda sad for "Captain Panda" to be more like "Captain Stick to Prot Warrior"
fierce pier
its the class i assure you xD i have 98.8% cpm and still forget breathing in big pulls
torn gulch
Just wanted to share for anyone attempting Zekvir: Just did the "let me solo him...
you mean 614 right?
sharp gale
errant wagon
you mean 614 right?
Ha, yeah my bad. Will fix.. thanks 😛
torn gulch
I was wondering you did it in leveling gear on ?? and i was ultra impressed
errant wagon
should've went along with it
echo egret
Just wanted to share for anyone attempting Zekvir: Just did the "let me solo him...
Same item level, I must be at 100 attempts, I reach phase 2 like 1 in 10 times. Too many things just go wrong.
wooden widget
Does anyone bind IP to their mouse?
errant wagon
Same item level, I must be at 100 attempts, I reach phase 2 like 1 in 10 times. ...
Any particular issues you're facing? happy to help if I can
jagged pier
i already offered to help him
errant wagon
My brand set up was the arrow pointing one for damage, and The big/tiny random one. I kept resetting until I got big buff for extra damage to take down spiders and healing to just, ya know, live
jagged pier
but we need to see what hes doing
errant wagon
i mean it was still challenging I won't sugar coat it, not gonna claim my build will make it a cake walk ha
just found it worked for me.
jagged pier
i mean i didnt think it was that hard tbh, but solo content like this is my jam
errant wagon
I thought it was juuuust the right amount of challenge. An evening with some fine tuning talents, honing it in. Was very fun, reminded me of mage tower
jagged pier
nah its way easier than the mage tower
original mage tower
mag etower is a meme now
u can phase with one infernal
wooden widget
How much rage do you guys waste on a mythic boss?
jagged pier
wooden widget
Like anyone know what’s average?
jagged pier
How much rage do you guys waste on a mythic boss?
close to 0
errant wagon
affliction lock mage tower made me want to rip my eyes out
wooden widget
I think I gotta move my IP to my mouse
I’m losing a lot in the opener and sometimes during movement
wooden widget
Holy shit ok
jagged pier
affliction lock mage tower made me want to rip my eyes out
i did them all the only ones i didnt like were the healer ones, im not a good healer
raw parcel
Only like five hours until VAULT TIME @_@
errant wagon
Fair enough, I liked the healer but that's coming from a secondary healer main 😄
I could never get my fel bear though back in the day
maybe it's easier now
I was also booty cheeks back then lmao
neon elk
Only like five hours until VAULT TIME @_@
More like 7 with maintenance xd
cosmic heron
Hey guys I’m new to prot war what the goal of the macro charge/intervene ? Ty
cosmic heron
Ok same keybind but 2 diff spell?
sweet summit
yep
orchid gulch
Essentially, yes.
cosmic heron
Ok ty boys
ionic nimbus
If u target your buddies = intervene , If u want to Zugzug = charge
tropic linden
Hey, tried some ?? Yesterday and couldn't cleanse some spits. Used avatar for 1 and for the second one had nothing. Avatar was at 20s CD. I'm not spending enough rage or its normal?
analog gale
!wa
thorny stone
Hey, tried some ?? Yesterday and couldn't cleanse some spits. Used avatar for 1 ...
you shouldnt have any problems with avatar+kick+disrupting shout, if you are a dwarf (as you should) you can also use racial
hoary pivot
you shouldnt have any problems with avatar+kick+disrupting shout, if you are a d...
Im not sure we should be implying that you „should“ be a certain race. Its not super impactful and will probably never be what you need to optimize.
jagged pier
Hey, tried some ?? Yesterday and couldn't cleanse some spits. Used avatar for 1 ...
U arent spending enough rage
It can overlap sometimes if brann doesn inturpt and u have lile 10 seconds left
But u can live that
thorny stone
Im not sure we should be implying that you „should“ be a certain race. Its not s...
try to look this good being a tauren
indigo scaffold
lets goo another 5 hour maintenance incoming
onyx vessel
tropic linden
U arent spending enough rage
I'm pooling all my CDs to deal with eggs, maybe thats why I don't have enough rage to reset avatar. Just demolish+roar is enough to deal with eggs?
waxen frigate
try to look this good being a tauren
I’d punt this little nerd so fucking far
sharp gale
For zekvir I had the chance of high enough ilvl to just not cd the egg and for the spit I’m gnome but 1 time got hit full duration was not a big thing
hardy snow
For zekvir I had the chance of high enough ilvl to just not cd the egg and for t...
you can clear debuff with avatar
sharp gale
you can clear debuff with avatar
I know but when I did zekvir I just pressed avatar on cd, zugzug the boss
reef hazel
Is there any tech to pull through mists wall as prot or am I at the mercy of my group
jagged pier
mercy really
dusky canopy
Pretty much need a pet class to do that
toxic pewter
How far away are the mobs
toxic pewter
Pretty sure I can use my Vulpera 40yard ability not sure though I don’t normally do it
jagged pier
u can
reef hazel
Regretting my race choice every single day
mellow quartz
Pretty sure I can use my Vulpera 40yard ability not sure though I don’t normally...
You can pull a frog on to a frog with a 40 yard range.
anyone can pull one of the 2x guardian packs before 2nd boss with a 30 yard ability through the wall from the boss room.
toxic pewter
Interesting
sand condor
why dont we run "show of force" in the mythic +
jagged pier
why dont we run "show of force" in the mythic +
cause its bad
wintry bough
Regretting my race choice every single day
Orc bis
ionic nimbus
Dwarf with Tauren Tmogitem ftw
unkempt hazel
what happened to chip
reef hazel
Undead ain't anything I thought i was cooking
violet ginkgo
Chip is fine, this is the other nim
reef hazel
But hey I get to walk out of 1 less fear in SoB.m 😭😭😭😭😭
inner wren
blessed vaults for all
blazing condor
thank you chinese ziggs
inner wren
your welcome
twilit lagoon
hi guys, i'd like to do some changings to my plater. when a mob casts a reflectable cast, i want plater to tell me its reflecable. but i have zero clue about plater, usually just play with naowhui. since i think i am not the first one who does this, can someone help maybe? 🙂
agile elbow
There's a spell reflect WA that you can setup to alert you when there's a reflective spell being cast on you.
twilit lagoon
https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9 is it this one ?
sweet summit
hi guys, i'd like to do some changings to my plater. when a mob casts a reflecta...
does this actually not exist yet?
twilit lagoon
didnt see any plater profile or anything like that yet. but i will try this WA
sweet summit
https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9 is it this one ?
this does what you want but not through plater
twilit lagoon
thats totally fine for me 😄 just want some visual help or a sound when smth is reflecable 😄
sweet summit
marble night
fury loot spec gets 1h and 2h weapons or just 1h from vault?
twilit lagoon
but there comes the next problem. as i see this WA only includes boss abilities and no trash mob abilities and i really dont know how to edit WAs 😄
opal rivet
fury loot spec gets 1h and 2h weapons or just 1h from vault?
Both. Use Arms loot spec for just 2h
marble night
i guess thats the play
neon elk
but there comes the next problem. as i see this WA only includes boss abilities ...
It tracks all
But it also track only spells casted, so it will scream "reflect" even if spell isnt directed on you
raven steeple
Trying to work out why (and I can't) that spear is the best option for tanking at the moment due to the hero talents. What am I missing?
twilit lagoon
oh ok thanks. and there is no way to change that? so it only screams when i am targeted?
lusty grotto
Trying to work out why (and I can't) that spear is the best option for tanking a...
25% more crit damage is great for bursty hero talents
sims high due to that, so its better
lusty grotto
also troar gets even worse after the anniversary patch
deft mortar
the best talent ever
sick sentinel
@strong forum
lavish onyx
Does anyone have a shield block timer to watch SB when it's up by chance
lofty veldt
i tihnk most weakauras have that
deft mortar
Does anyone have a shield block timer to watch SB when it's up by chance
eye ball it
count 8 seconds
lofty veldt
Does anyone have a shield block timer to watch SB when it's up by chance
https://wago.io/MD_v3xG0r you can try this
btw do you guys start the first pack of City of threads like this?
or should i take a different approach
strong forum
deft mortar
with shield charge and bolster I actually have near 100% SB uptime
strong forum
i do this with lust
lofty veldt
DAMN THAT WAS FAST LMAO
strong forum
i had that screenshot from yesterday
lofty veldt
okay so i noticed i take a lot of damage when trying to group up the mobs
fierce pier
you do this with pugs?
deft mortar
I took this and they didn't interrupt anything, nothing got stacked because casters kept casting
fierce pier
you cant pug this
deft mortar
And mage cried
strong forum
lofty veldt
so i think i wanna try and record it and see what im doing wrong
deft mortar
We killed everything tho
fierce pier
3 caster mobs ,they wont even help you stack it
merry sluice
I never saw any need to take the first 2 casters for %
lofty veldt
3 caster mobs ,they wont even help you stack it
i need others to help me stack mage mobs?
merry sluice
so i just skipped it bc its easier
graceful kite
Unpuggable pull because nobody will interrupt that first spiderboy
deft mortar
Avg dps player understanding of general dungeon mechanics
strong forum
you kick first caster mob, then charge next group spell reflect, leap to big boy, taunt it in
then either force LoS last caster in or do it yourself again when kick ready
cuz everyone is asleep
merry sluice
i just pull two of the little buggy guys when doing the big beetle miniboss at the end to make up the % of not pulling the first 2 casters that nom pulls
lofty veldt
understandable
lusty grotto
unneeded
just do what you linked first Fliixy
you can fill in % elsewhere
especially if you cant properly setup the damage buff with rogue/priest/engi
lofty veldt
fair
im struggling with grouping them up
that pull always ends up being dicey for some reason in pugs
then the rest of the dungeon is fine
lusty grotto
thats not on you
lavish onyx
https://i.imgur.com/Dy08ArP.png
Thank you king
lusty grotto
thats on the rest of the team
twilit lagoon
my prot warr is a new char and i wanna gear as fast as possible. pretending i dont have a good weapon/shield yet, how would you spent your crests on crafts?
just spent the "low" crests to craft weapon and shield on 619ilevel just to have them early? or play with shit weapon/shield and wait until i can craft 636 weapon/shield?
lusty grotto
but if you are, why would you want to do 4 casters
deft mortar
With pulls like this above 10+, does your healer get a chance to do dps?
My resto druid can cleave like 400-500k
If he isn't busy healing me
lofty veldt
thats on the rest of the team
oh alright, i always thought it was a me problem
deft mortar
then again u play thane
strong forum
you lust the pull, and no
maybe
idk
but thats a turbo efficient use of lust atleast
deft mortar
thats why I use defensive trinket because it gives me like 15% overall hps
so my resto can do more dmg
strong forum
thats cope
lofty veldt
my trinkets make me sad lol
strong forum
yeah and bosses do 0 dmg
you running a defensive trinket doesnt magically enable your healer to do any less or more healing xd
thats the most whack argument there has ever been
violet ginkgo
defensive trinket never be like "OMG I can't tank this before but because of this trinket I can."
the fight doesn't design of you having defensive trinkets
strong forum
its moreso that 90% of pwar healing is passive healing you got from the healer healing the dps
your healer barely ever actively heals you
so going "yeah but my healer can then dps more" is just a false statement
cuz theyre busy healing the dps, which you get cleaved by aswell
jagged pier
i dont think i took any damage in ara 10
strong forum
okay and how much of the possible leech/indom went into overhealing
because the trinket prevented you from taking any dmg which leech/indom wouldve healed
deft mortar
how tf does IP overheal
merry sluice
im pretty sure i took more dmg from people refusing to ever interrupt in a 9 gb
deft mortar
Details is busted
merry sluice
than i did in an 11 arak across the whole key
strong forum
youre just trading a details bar for another details bar
but how much of that was effective
its the soulmonger argument
"woah soulmonger did so much healing"
deft mortar
ait now I see, 50% indomitable
violet ginkgo
how tf does IP overheal
he didn't mention IP? he said Leech and Indomitable
deft mortar
is overheal
deft mortar
he didn't mention IP? he said Leech and Indomitable
no my details showed IP as overhealing
strong forum
because it cannibalized how much leech/soul healing you wouldve done
strong forum
nah but like
deft mortar
yeye fair
strong forum
with sources like our passive healing from indom and leech
deft mortar
I will delete the trinket immediately
strong forum
if you add other absorbs on top
it will dwarf those, and make the absorb look bigger in comparison
cuz you woulda just healed say 2million in form of leech/indom
but now instead leech and indom were afk, but the 2mil trinekt absorb is there instead
ykno
its always a give and take
but in the end, you gained nothing total
im not saying to delete it
strong forum
thing is aswell
indom and leech do not trigger when at full HP
they dont overheal unless you were 99% and then the tick of leech/indom then overhealed you
leech works like this
when youre below 100% hp, once every second it heals you for X amount based on dmg done
if youre at full hp, leech doesnt trigger, so it doesnt produce overhealing needlessly
deft mortar
gotcha gotcha
I wish brutal vitality created a IP
I will never get over how good Dragonflight S1 set felt
lofty veldt
what did that set do?
mellow quartz
nah didnt
lofty veldt
i started playing at the end of season 4
mellow quartz
the set from S1
deft mortar
Your dmg done added 10% to your ignore pain, and actaully created an active ignore pain
deft mortar
Never had to waste rage on IP tho
mellow quartz
which one was it that did the IP thing?
nocturne spindle
(multiple people typing furiously)
merry sluice
but
deft mortar
except bosses
merry sluice
that's not why we use IP
i mean yeah the defensive bonus is definitely relevant and nice at times
but using ip does the opposite
of wasting rage
strong forum
the set from s1 wasnt big
tbf, right now as colossus it would be insanely strong
imagine
merry sluice
Its the most effecient method of not capping on rage we have, which, especially if ur running thane. You're absolutely swimming in
strong forum
colossus with df s1 tierset
lusty grotto
yeah agreed
strong forum
thatd be insahne
sweet summit
what if overcapped/unused IP exploded around you with aoe damage that would be cool
strong forum
revenge grants vanguards determination, which would grant dmg and defensive buff, then 10% of all dmg dealt would APPLY IGNORE PAIN with it
fucking imagine
how hard colossus would go
merry sluice
im a fake warrior enjoyer
I only started this class in s3 x....x
sick grotto
see you guys talking about some defensive trinkets are you guys running them for 11 or 12
strong forum
you sit there and every single revenge you send would apply a 1mil IP
merry sluice
bro i fucking love colossus, if that was the case that'd be sick af
lone hearth
I just started this class last eeek
strong forum
i dont run defensive trinkets as theyre all whack
mellow quartz
pwar definitely needs a buff like that
merry sluice
there's barely any defensive trinkets worth considering this season
sick grotto
what u running instead?
merry sluice
especially in the context of warrior
lusty grotto
silken chain is the best defensive option
jagged pier
mandate and candle
lusty grotto
if you can get it at hero track i guess
sick grotto
yeah right transmitter is pretty nice
merry sluice
some specs might use chelicara but dont bother for warrior
Silken chain when its attack speed slow actually works is fucking cracked on trash bc the vast majority of your dmg in keys is melees
sick grotto
i think only got champion silken
lusty grotto
but even if not hero track the attack speed slow is great
merry sluice
i think only got champion silken
you don't give a fuck about the dmg absorb
its purely the attack speed slow
strong forum
^
sick grotto
you guys dont rate the ara kara trink?
lusty grotto
i dont even have it
sick grotto
sac brood
hushed cobalt
dang, swarmlords is kinda nifty with the 1min cd and sorta synergy with ip. if only it was str instead of haste
deft mortar
Its the most effecient method of not capping on rage we have, which, *especially...
tbf back then I was spamming revenge so hard I was rarely rage cap
jagged pier
ara ara sack aint a defensive trinket
deft mortar
I think only when I put down the swirly thingy I'd get it
merry sluice
(that is to say, the defensive benefit, aside from some mainstat loss is there regardless of the track or ilvl)
sick grotto
yeah i know just say nomer saying was running trans and skarm
deft mortar
I also had the shit talent because it simmed better Barbaric Training
jagged pier
yeah i know just say nomer saying was running trans and skarm
they are the trinkets he got
strong forum
you only "care" about the on-use
but swarmlords is literally a negative dmg trinket and the absorb is lackluster aswell
inner wren
swarmlords is nice on my guardian druid but i am anxious to replace it on my war
strong forum
thats why, sure it does something but the something it does isnt all that large to begin with
tulip remnant
I’ve been vibing on Ovinox/Skarm Shard.
sick grotto
yeah feels kinda weird running a absorb when you got ip anyways
lone hearth
guys is there anytime i wanna use slam or whirlwind instead of revenge and IP to spend rage?
lusty grotto
nome is there any way to properly sim mercurial egg as a dps spec?
merry sluice
guys is there anytime i wanna use slam or whirlwind instead of revenge and IP to...
never remove them from your bar
lusty grotto
i.e.. heavy movement
sweet summit
never remove them from your bar
never, remove them from your bar
merry sluice
they are purely filler talents to smooth out the leveling
lone hearth
theyre not removed, but idk when i should use them
merry sluice
yes, comma like erga said
merry sluice
Ip to prevent capping on rage
revenge to fish for shield slam procs when shieldslam and thundercap + dmg cds are on cooldown
lone hearth
Is thunderclap my main aoe damager then? And revenge to fish for procs right
lone hearth
I am
merry sluice
before thunderclap
tulip oar
Don't worry, we'll get a cheat death trinket next season.
merry sluice
even in aoe
lone hearth
yeah ofc
tulip oar
inner wren
(unless u gotta snap aoe aggro)
lone hearth
bro as a warrior my hp doesnt go under 80% in 8’s and im barely like 604
sick grotto
i think ill just stick to quickwick then until i get a skarm or kadros
lone hearth
absolutrly broken
merry sluice
speaking rotationally
for thane, revenge is purely filler when you have nothing else to press bc pressing it can reset shield slam's CD.
strong forum
bro as a warrior my hp doesnt go under 80% in 8’s and im barely like 604
this does not change ever
welcome to warrior
inner wren
as soon as u get 1h/shield u should swap outta prot loot
deft mortar
Thane mfs will never feel the joy of hitting 1M each to a pack of 5 with revenge
smoky anvil
Correct. There’s nothing to hunt for out of GB as prot though, so cba just be dps.
merry sluice
then the DK gives me blueballs by gripping the enemy away from me
better offensively, worse defensively
deft mortar
I am convinvced collosal is more dmg and I won't hear any reason or logic
sick grotto
i mean it is
lone current
coloss is more dmg
inner wren
theres nothing to be persuaded there
sick grotto
the logs show it
inner wren
colossus is more dmg everyone knows it
deft mortar
that' sounds like a healer problem
tulip remnant
Bc Thane is essentially immortal.
sick grotto
cause thunderblast dr and rage gen on avatar
merry sluice
some minor DR bonuses spread around thane builds
but also less rage spent equals less healing
Less rage spent equals less cdr on your important CDs like wall and avatar
smoky anvil
lone current
i'd recommend getting a decent ilvl and stat distro before colossus. otherwise you'll find yourself really rage starved.
nocturne spindle
It's all explained out by the guy who actually knows the thing in wow head
lone hearth
Okay
nocturne spindle
We just repeat the words
lone hearth
Well yeah but sometimes theres an off meta to the guides
nocturne spindle
Not to be rude just letting you know where the actual info js
lone hearth
Gotta always ask
sick grotto
i like being a beefy boi and still doing good dmg so thane is good
merry sluice
i like seeing big number be bigger
sick grotto
but the playstyle of colossus is a bit different and interesting
inner wren
nome has said many times u can safely go colossus in ara/mists
tulip remnant
Colossus also more punishing on mistakes.
sick grotto
colossus getting buffed this reset?
tawdry cloak
does the rage generation nerf on reset even matter for mountain thane?
jagged pier
nope
sick grotto
ahh ok wasnt sure if anniversary patch
merry sluice
the one singular upside of needing to play bdk first for raid rn
is that i can go colossus anywhere since im not actively progging m+ ro raid on it elts gooooo
jagged pier
instead of wasting 3k rage u will waste 1k rage
inner wren
can someone tell my dumbass how to pull thru wall on mists before 2nd boss with war
tried twice yesterday and couldnt do it
merry sluice
without a dk/pet class
its purely route dependent
inner wren
o rly
strong forum
colossus getting buffed this reset?
minimal amounts
sick grotto
i think there is a few classes that can pull through walls like dh and stuff
jagged pier
thane gets stonks
sick grotto
ell yeh
inner wren
which wall is it that you can pull through
sick grotto
lighting strikes going to be plowing
merry sluice
i think there is a few classes that can pull through walls like dh and stuff
dh has extended range on glaive, and can jump up the wall
inner wren
at mist boss
sick grotto
yeh the pull to the south think you just need a caster for that fake wall
sick grotto
its not a route i generally do tho
merry sluice
can be pulled through the wall
sick grotto
yeh
merry sluice
by going to the wall under it
inner wren
you just taunt through it?
tawdry cloak
you hit it with any ranged ability
inner wren
heroic throw?
tawdry cloak
but I think it's between 30-40 yards if I remember correctly
so a caster can hit it, but you can't
tawdry cloak
yea pretty sure you still need someone else for that one
but it doesn't have to be a pet class like on the first pull
inner wren
i could pull it on my guard with bugged lunar beam, just couldnt do it on my war
thx guys
merry sluice
yeah a 30y can hit it, i cant show the best spot on mdt
but if u go to the wall udner it, there should be a spot like an indent that goes in a little bit
just hold w key into that and target the closest enemy through the wall with taunt or heroic throw
sick grotto
does ground currents fall under lightning strikes on details?
inner wren
just hold w key into that and target the closest enemy through the wall with tau...
alright cool, ima try that today
have some pugs yell at me as i afk into a wall
sick grotto
haha honestly is why i havent tried it
merry sluice
biggest problem though is that the maze can oftentimes spit you out through the door 10 came from which, a real sucks moment
tulip oar
Got a question, that first pack in SoB, I am still trying to figure out why 15% haste debuff hits so hard. Like what the hell?
merry sluice
but if you have a dk, or a pet class you cna always ask themt o pull in other rooms too, especially the first
lone hearth
how do you guys handle the pulls right before the second boss on grim batol
fierce pier
Got a question, that first pack in SoB, I am still trying to figure out why 15% ...
there are 3 packs before third boss that have that buster
lone hearth
he always pats into us no matter what I do
fierce pier
those two are the only spots you need defensives on
turbid shuttle
You can do the wall pull before 2nd boss with war 100%. I do it every time. The ones inside the maze need 40 yard I think. I've only been able to do them on DH.
fierce pier
oh btw what ability u guys use to pull mobs from behind the walls in the maze?
turbid shuttle
Heroic throw personally. Then leap back to front to pick them up before they randomly 1 shot someone.
sick grotto
if everyone moves near the edge
oh you can actually avoid him in the centre there? where does he pat after that? sounds like a pain in a pug
merry sluice
he always pats into us no matter what I do
if the group stands like this on the 2nd pack, then the boss walks by un aggroed.
so long as a stray aoe, or mob doesn't get knocked into him
uhh
maybe in an issue in low keys
had no problems ever in 10s or up
turbid shuttle
he always pats into us no matter what I do
Pull 1st golem. Then go to 2nd golem. Ping for people to stand in the cubby. He won't aggro. He'll walk by while you're fighting it. The. Double pull the 3 packs. Then pull boss.
merry sluice
oh you can actually avoid him in the centre there? where does he pat after that?...
he goes to the opposite side of where he starts and waits for a bit before returning
fierce pier
Heroic throw personally. Then leap back to front to pick them up before they ran...
mobs are los no?you cant throw? or im missing something
sick grotto
yeah right
sick grotto
is it pretty forgiving or pretty tight
turbid shuttle
If you're in a low key, maybe say something as you're walking after 1st boss. 10+ people just know what you mean when you ping, in my experience.
lone hearth
Okay thanks
fierce pier
some walls just don't function properly
weird,cuz you can lunar beam all doors/walls, i guess warrior can pull through certain walls
turbid shuttle
Pretty forgiving. Basically anywhere in the semi circle is safe.
nocturne spindle
His pathing takes him like all the way against the far wall at the point
He doesn't walk through the center
lone hearth
Also another question, on the spell reflect guide it has spells like fetid gas and other aoe pool spells as reflectable, but hows that work? Cause he doenst cast it on me he just puts a pool on the floor so how do I reflect that
blazing acorn
Can we aggro any mobs from over the wall in the first 3 parts in mist? I know about right b4 second boss
lone hearth
Or do they mean if I stand in the pool and spell reflect I’ll just block the damage and reflect it back to him
nocturne spindle
If it's not cast on you you don't
merry sluice
oh btw what ability u guys use to pull mobs from behind the walls in the maze?
this only works on specifics walls in the maze as certain angles ignore LoS bc walls are consistently jank across the game.
and only if the pack is within 30y
Otherwise, vdh can pull more bc it has longer range on throw glaive.
Or we get a pet class to send their pet through the door (this does not send us back like a player, and they can go through door shwile we're in combat)
or we get a Death knight to do some exploity jank of their grip to aggro mobs
nocturne spindle
It's only reflectable if your dps war
turbid shuttle
Can we aggro any mobs from over the wall in the first 3 parts in mist? I know ab...
War can't. 40 yard classes can do some in miniboss rooms.
twilit lagoon
i am watching the new Quazii/Equinox Video atm and Equinox often used the word "speed taunt". is this a brewmaster thing or what exactly does speed taunt mean ?
turbid shuttle
Also another question, on the spell reflect guide it has spells like fetid gas a...
If you're talking about rotflesh or whatever his name is in NW, last abok before 3rd boss, he targets random player (including tank). If he happens to target you you can reflect.
merry sluice
deft mortar
If you're talking about rotflesh or whatever his name is in NW, last abok before...
every goddamn cast is like rando player
this expansion
so much missed SF opportunity
lone hearth
If you're talking about rotflesh or whatever his name is in NW, last abok before...
Nah talking about blightbone, first boss of NW. but just in general too
twilit lagoon
thx mate
sick grotto
there is a few weird aoes you can reflect even the brambles from before the first boss in mists
sharp gale
Nyalotha Raden’s kiting memory activated
lone hearth
turbid shuttle
Ah. 1st boss it's something like reflect works on the application of the puddle effect so you don't take damage. Same thing happens with brambles before 1st boss mists.
sick grotto
again i think it might be just one tick of the gas im not sure tho
sick grotto
probs golem in grim
turbid shuttle
Anika slash
sick grotto
or anima slash in mist
turbid shuttle
Golem in grim they removed the damage
sick grotto
ahh shit
fierce pier
this only works on specifics walls in the maze as certain angles ignore LoS bc w...
thank you,ill have to go watch a stream to find the spots 30yard spells can pull
merry sluice
in grim batol you can remove tentacles on last boss with spell reflect, and it lasts the whole duration
turbid shuttle
Also the shadow slashes or whatever they're called in grim. Pretty sure those do damage, and absolutely pump your hp
merry sluice
so you can remove as many tentacles as you can touch with sr up
sharp gale
The 3 man pack in Front of golems grim and earth bolt at the end of stonevault deals a lot of dmg if you spell reflect
sick grotto
oh yeh fuck those mobs
sick grotto
anima is definitely the big one
uhh the last root in city of threads
is a good reflect
fierce pier
splice, last boss of cot
sick grotto
yeah or splice
fierce pier
not a buster but a dot
inner wren
anima slash is what made me bench my guardian druid in favor of war
annoying ass attack
fierce pier
anima slash is what made me bench my guardian druid in favor of war
same lol
lone hearth
Yeah it actual hurts in dh
sick grotto
love the double anima slash packs
lone hearth
But I dont feel it with warrior
sharp gale
love the double anima slash packs
Already tried the double double anima slash pack when you are in the 2 pack’s maze room ?
merry sluice
bc my cotank is a bear
she was on her druid while i was tanking mists on my warior alt
and just watched my healthbar never move when i spell reflected
turbid shuttle
Tbh I just installed spell reflect essentials and press button when I see bar
sick grotto
spell reflect is pretty broken
turbid shuttle
I don't have processing power for that shit
sick grotto
yeah mine doesnt work on the grim mobs that put the massive dot on ya
has anyone used meeres cd tracking with jundies plater profile, when you got a mob selected the selection arrows overlap the ability a bit not sure if others have fixed it
turbid shuttle
Weird pretty sure mine does. Maybe I'm wrong will need to check a vod.
sick grotto
i could be wrong on that
na i think it might work for me im probs just a bit slow on it
merry sluice
you mean meere's cds on enemy plates?
i do, but i use quazii's plater profile
sick grotto
yeah its good with quaziis not with jundies tho
lusty grotto
do you mean its not displaying the cd?
cause they wont until they cast their ability for the first time
sick grotto
uhh it does however when you have a mob selected the selection arrows cover up the ability icon
lusty grotto
oh idk
sick grotto
id have to screen shot it but no game atm
lusty grotto
i use naowh's plater profile and i dont have that issue
sick grotto
yeah just wondered if was a fix
lusty grotto
kinda seems its your plater profile
sick grotto
yeah for sure
merry sluice
i mean since its a palter profile showing that
there's probably some way to edit it
but i wouldnt know where the actual setting is
void wadi
anyone tried using shadow-binding ritual knife? Apparently 4th best dps trinket on bloodmallet
sick grotto
yeah was using quazii
but was using jundies in DF
so tried switching back but i may just go back to quazii if cant fix
lone hearth
Tbh I just installed spell reflect essentials and press button when I see bar
Does it work for this expac? I saw it was outdated on curseforge
lone hearth
Thank you
sick grotto
yee is pretty handy you can also have sound que if thats your sort of thing to notify when a spell is being cast thats reflectable
lusty grotto
careful
merry sluice
it works
just don't get baited when its targeting someoen eelse
lusty grotto
that WA tells you to reflect the wrong shit
merry sluice
and tells you to spell reflect instead
sick grotto
oh yeah
merry sluice
that too
lusty grotto
nor i have ever used it
inner wren
yea it struggles on random target bolts and some other things
void wadi
any other weakaura as good as the spell reflect one?
inner wren
its decent for teaching you some tho
lusty grotto
its good for learning
lusty grotto
not relevant to this season
merry sluice
it def would tell me to reflec tthe knockback, rather than the actual dot lmfao
void wadi
for necrotic wake
inner wren
i would dump it when you get familiar with what you actually want to spell reflect tho
lusty grotto
it was just an example of that WA telling you to reflect the wrong thing
nocturne spindle
Hoi was such a strange reflect
void wadi
oh
nocturne spindle
Does it work on any other channeled abilities?
sick grotto
a few i think
merry sluice
the last boss HoI did two things you could reflect.
The knockback, then the actual buster that chunked it
The weakaura would yell at you to reflect the knockback, which is troll bc you could cancel it three different ways
the actual buster did significantly more dmg to reflect
lusty grotto
you literally inted if you reflected the knock instead of the 2nd cast
tulip oar
there are 3 packs before third boss that have that buster
Yeah, I get that. It just doesn't make sense as there are no visual que of a tank buster. Worse, and the trick I've started to use to avoid em. Is shield charge, Shockwave, with spear and back away. They have super low hp, so the dps murders them before they apply the hit.
It's just such a weird buster.
lusty grotto
which the WA told you to do
merry sluice
its definitely better than nothing bc you'll learn what can be spell reflected
but don't rely on it
turbid shuttle
Early this season I thought it was warning on a few wrong things. I think it's been updated. I went through and cross checked against every ability in the spreadsheet and it's 1:1 now
sick grotto
mmm yeah it helps people get into the habit of pressing reflect and realising how many things you can reflect
turbid shuttle
E.g. it used to warn on the shield charge at end of stone vault. I might have deleted that manually, but that's def not reflectable
tulip oar
Spell reflect makes mists even easier. Big ol Anima slashes truck those mobs hard.
onyx sandal
did they change it so that the bolt from 2nd boss in NW is not reflectable? I feel like it used to be
turbid shuttle
I've also never seen it warn on stuff targeting other people, but maybe I just missed it
sick grotto
yep and if your a average player that doesnt read into spreadsheets or watch vids you wouldnt know
merry sluice
dw
toxic pewter
which spec u guys opening vault in today/tomorrow
merry sluice
the one times you try to refelct a cast
turbid shuttle
did they change it so that the bolt from 2nd boss in NW is not reflectable? I fe...
Pretty sure still reflectable, but they changed it so it targets other players. Weird thing is target of target still says it's on you.
lusty grotto
arms apb
twilit lagoon
still watching the Quazii/Equinox talk about routes. I just marked every pack he was talking about and only reach 99,27%. is my MDT bugged or which pack should i add?
merry sluice
your dps will kick for once in their life
sick grotto
oh fuck me
toxic pewter
would you open in prot if you still using 636 shield
sick grotto
the dps kicking after i got sr up
toxic pewter
been unlucky with mythic shield
onyx sandal
Pretty sure still reflectable, but they changed it so it targets other players. ...
hmmm that's gotta be what's throwing me off. But the pinned reflect sheet says it isn't reflectable anymore
void wadi
the dps kicking after i got sr up
its a good thing
lusty grotto
hmmm that's gotta be what's throwing me off. But the pinned reflect sheet says i...
it hasnt been all season
onyx sandal
would you open in prot if you still using 636 shield
I personally wouldn't
turbid shuttle
hmmm that's gotta be what's throwing me off. But the pinned reflect sheet says i...
I could totally be wrong here tbf
onyx sandal
it hasnt been all season
but it used to be right, like in OG Shadowlands
tulip oar
Pretty sure still reflectable, but they changed it so it targets other players. ...
That's because the dragon thing is attacking you. The caster is in the "vehicle"
lusty grotto
uhh im pretty sure they made it not reflectable mid SL
but i could be wrong, its been a while
onyx sandal
hmm could be, i dropped out of SL after SoD
toxic pewter
i want queens mandate trinket
sick grotto
cause you kick the necro bolt and boss is kinda free
tulip oar
I think they changed it so it wasn't just always at the tank.
tulip oar
Yes
sick grotto
yeh
lusty grotto
I think they changed it so it wasn't just always at the tank.
what specifically?
sick grotto
same with queen ansureks root you can reflect it as well
lusty grotto
wait till you hear AV bosses did jack shit to us
sick grotto
on p1
turbid shuttle
still watching the Quazii/Equinox talk about routes. I just marked every pack he...
Add 4 pack in cubby. Skip dragon at end. The way that route is drawn up is also totally whack. How you gonna do 12 together without getting dragon. Same with 10 unless you get very lucky on pat.