that's all I said
#protection
molten gorge
lusty grotto
backpedalling
molten gorge
No?
dawn geode
ya the science is use whats comfortable mostly
lusty grotto
you said its impossible for off-gcds to be bound to keyboard
molten gorge
and not break the rule
lusty grotto
backpedalling
molten gorge
the rule being
unkempt hazel
this pic makes my fingers hurt irl
smoky anvil
Nim you must be the most rattled kid I've ever met
I think you’re just making a nothingburger into a nothingbuffet.
lusty grotto
impossible, for you
molten gorge
🤷♂️
unkempt hazel
I think im too dumb to understand what the argument is even about
dawn geode
what the fuq man
hehe thats kiratank
molten gorge
almost impossible, *for you*
lmk when you figure out how to have your same finger in two places at once ig
strong forum
And when I know that I will press Ss as my next global and have too much rage incoming, I only spam IP cuz it'll activate SS aswell
molten gorge
cause im not an idiot
lad, you are literally bricking 8s and have been playing warrior a LONG time
relax
reef hazel
The macro does go insanely hard
lusty grotto
says who
reef hazel
I've also been using to do my ss when rage is getting big
molten gorge
you need 10s for weekly vault kid
lusty grotto
ok so?
molten gorge
yanks always the most delusional i swear to god
lusty grotto
whats your point
round pendant
Hazbuk never misses his opportunity to be a moron
lusty grotto
youre throwing shade cause you cant reliably hit an offgcd bound on your keyboard and end up calling it impossible? is that it?
round pendant
just ignore him
strong forum
While I enjoy the e-peening and pitiful arguments
lusty grotto
isnt this your first season or something
strong forum
It's annoying for a public forum
onyx matrix
blissful hull
my drool droplets usually hit my IP for me
unkempt hazel
now this is a warrior main
molten gorge
While I enjoy the e-peening and pitiful arguments
lilbro is immediately rattled the moment I say anything he disagrees with idk, don't think it's controversial to give someone good science based advice on keybinds, and certainly doesn't need to end in an argument lol
lusty grotto
you called it impossible
molten gorge
the guy said he's new to the class 🤷♂️
lusty grotto
thats misinformation
strong forum
He just got hung up on "impossible"
molten gorge
He just got hung up on "impossible"
again, "almost"
strong forum
nocturne spindle
yall will argue about fucking anything
molten gorge
the rule being, don't use your same finger twice in a row
pallid quiver
And when I know that I will press Ss as my next global and have too much rage in...
I just simply press both buttons at once during this same situation, since I put the buttons in a line with each other on my mmo mouse
reef hazel
I wish trya/fort weren't a thing and just implicit in the key. I wish I could practice some fort trash instead of fucking up in 10s and having to wait till next week
unkempt hazel
yall will argue about fucking anything
bet my tmog is better than urs bud
round pendant
Doesn't look like you said "almost" here
molten gorge
Doesn't look like you said "almost" here
because there I was explaining
nocturne spindle
bet my tmog is better than urs bud
probably i dont tmog
molten gorge
that it is imposible for your finger to be in two places at once
strong forum
The affixes don't make sense anymore
unkempt hazel
probably i dont tmog
lusty grotto
impossible to explain for Hazbuk
lusty grotto
something like " i cant hit an offgcd bound to my keyboard "
round pendant
who's pressing keybinds with 1 finger only
if you have two buttons that you would normally press with your index
lusty grotto
idk you guy's just really struggle with simple concepts it seems
guys, english not your first language ig
round pendant
but you have to press them both at the same time
nocturne spindle
just use your massive warrior dong to hit IP instead of fingies
unkempt hazel
who's pressing keybinds with 1 finger only
someone who lost other 9 fingers, be more respectful
blissful hull
just be a scroll wheeler
sterile trellis
Wowhead has swarmlords authority trinket at C tier, is it not good?
blissful hull
and live in bliss
molten gorge
who's pressing keybinds with 1 finger only
you aren't, but if you bind IP to say R and then you need to press T f.e. you would use index > index, which is less ideal than swapping finger
shrewd plinth
Wowhead has swarmlords authority trinket at C tier, is it not good?
Dps c tier
Survivability? Super good
molten gorge
as I said, there's whole science around this
lusty grotto
beep boop windows crashes on offgcd keyboard binds
molten gorge
and largely, it's common sense too
round pendant
Yeah you can use statistics and all the different buttons to prevent as many b2b index-index pressing
or you could just
use your middle finger too
sterile trellis
Survivability? Super good
Prolly worth if I'm starting to push +12 keys eh
molten gorge
use your middle finger too
why not both 🤷♂️
orchid gulch
The nitpicking is strong in here today.
molten gorge
that's all I was suggeting to the new guy
lusty grotto
if only he knew i also use modifier binds for offgcds LOL
molten gorge
apparently i'm just rent free in Nim's head
round pendant
Nah you're just an ass
blissful hull
yeah… fucking croak on it….
lusty grotto
for saying it's impossible, cuz
molten gorge
look lads, I'm sorry that you're still dogshit at warrior
after SEASONS
of playing
but idk
round pendant
Thanks for proving my point
lusty grotto
lmao
shrewd plinth
Prolly worth if I'm starting to push +12 keys eh
I’m bad at it and it’s pretty consistently like 14% of my self healing/absorb whatever. Not sure if it would be bigger on a tank that uses it more frequently or smaller cause they use the rest of the kit better
molten gorge
not particularly
just find it crazy how badly your jimmies get rustled when I talk
it's fascinating
round pendant
really mad
Been doing this ever since he joined. Says some shit someone then disagrees with and he gets giga antagonistic
lusty grotto
yeah im aware
molten gorge
🤭
onyx matrix
Well he sure is entertaining us
patent basalt
why not bind ofgcd buttons to the mouse or a lower key like z or x
problem solved?
shrewd plinth
Just macro ip to whatever makes you smile. Fk hitting execute, revenge, shield block
Ip is king
onyx matrix
ain't no way I'm binding IP to z or x
It is, dont do it
patent basalt
just have whatever binds u want and dont flame others for their choice
thats just weird
blissful hull
the scroll wheeler upper class scoffs at this discussion
orchid gulch
Why not bind off gcd buttons to your Xbox controller at this point? slightly sarcastic
strong forum
As I explained on wowhead I'm not super sold on swarmlords authority as it's a trickle absorb, its mostly effective vs many hits but given that the maximum absorb is really small it rarely proves to be useful to help in dangerous situations
lusty grotto
just bind it to a pedal
shrewd plinth
Y’all ain’t ignoring pain with a foot pedal?? Come on
patent basalt
joystick is the new meta I heard tho
shrewd plinth
Actually bind it to a button under my desk, I hit it with the old third leg as needed
orchid gulch
just bind it to a pedal
Steering wheel, hard right for IP.
blissful hull
neurolink for my IP has been working insane
molten gorge
joystick is the new meta I heard tho
does that mage still play? the black lad who acts out the casts as well
that's the real tech
💪
smoky anvil
I bind it to left forehead. I roll my face across the screen and find it best to hit it with my left temple.
round pendant
yeah im aware
Does it remind you of Jordan too or is that just me
round pendant
damn that's surprising
orchid gulch
Neither.
graceful kite
I have ignore pain on q and shield slam on 1
lusty grotto
imagine yogi with a temper yam
molten gorge
I can give a fantastic example of just how rattled you are even, the other day I said something about "in a couple months people will be easily pugging the first 2 on mythic" and you were SO fucking tilted, called me snobby 
then like a day or two later, Nome came in and said something along the lines of "if your group can't clear the first 2 on Mythic they have no Arms"
graceful kite
sometimes when I fell mischievous I press shield slam by pressing ignore pain+ss macro
molten gorge
it's like if I say it, you're absolutely foaming at the mouth
round pendant
oops my message got blocked
lusty grotto
my point still stands
pugging is pugging
and nobody here is bad if they cant pug, they rely on 19 other people after all
🤷
round pendant
Well, you did..
molten gorge
when i said the thing about pugging
I said
(to a guy asking about shield)
essentially that he'll probably be able to pug the shield from first boss at some point in the near future
round pendant
imagine yogi with a temper yam
sounds comical
unkempt hazel
strong forum
Tbf at high end the definition of pug is wildly different than low end
molten gorge
Tbf at high end the definition of pug is wildly different than low end
Ya
I technically "pugged" the first 2 on mythic
but idk if I'd call it a pug
strong forum
I'll be doing 2x 4/8M "pugs" each Saturday, one with half of my guild and 1 with honolulu
terse glacier
when you get hit in the back or let your shield block drop it doesnt matter what button you bind ignore pain to @molten gorge
youre welcome
strong forum
It's just a sophisticated/organised community type run
molten gorge
Ya, I'm not sure I'd include that in pug, which is why I said give it 2 months for the pug clears
even if technically it is a pug
strong forum
But yeah, with most capable players that aren't fallen on the head you can clear 3 I'd say
molten gorge
🤝
dusky sentinel
But
strong forum
Cuz it's quite literally the same fight just with 1 more small change
round cliff
I'll be doing 2x 4/8M "pugs" each Saturday, one with half of my guild and 1 with...
like the island?
strong forum
What's that
bronze wraith
What is the easiest M+ duengon for us?
strong forum
Mists
molten gorge
Nim in absolute shambles rn, he can't believe you've done this
round pendant
Yeah nome play's wow on vacation
dusky sentinel
Pugging HC blood has filled my life with people fallen on their head 😅
round pendant
pugs with the entire city of honolulu
lusty grotto
youre projecting
lusty grotto
LOL
strong forum
Nah the guild
lusty grotto
nome didnt say anything contrary to what im saying
lusty grotto
lol
strong forum
How is dawnbreaker?
Need to pay a lot more attention there as its many casts and magic dmg going on
lusty grotto
this aint fun anymore
molten gorge
Nome and Nim are on the same page
ok lilbro
strong forum
But if you know what you're doing it's fine
lusty grotto
cant fix stupid yam
molten gorge
nome didnt say anything contrary to what im saying
never forget
okay gotta go boost some 10s
lmk if you need a carry Nim
👍
lusty grotto
stay mad
nocturne spindle
get a room
strong forum
lusty grotto
lmao jesus
violet ginkgo
lmk if you need a carry Nim
Sure carry me, why not? I always love free carry.
or that offer only for nim?
molten gorge
Only Nim gets the mate's rate
lusty grotto
sure i need to gear a rat Brew
molten gorge
(actually need to help a different friend first tho, his Ele is behind on gear cause vacation smh)
lusty grotto
when can i take this offer
bronze wraith
round cliff
EU players smelly
orchid mural
Hello - wondering if there is a fast way to see who is targetted on Stitchflesh so that you can intervene - im not seeing it on my frames.
is there a WA or a trick? curently using Mach1 eyeball to find the green arrrow 🙂
molten gorge
EU players smelly
Come sniff me UwU
round cliff
:3
round pendant
Hello - wondering if there is a fast way to see who is targetted on Stitchflesh ...
The fixate target?
my plater cast shows me
in fact I think it tells me for everything on that fight
who the target is
celest obsidian
Hello - wondering if there is a fast way to see who is targetted on Stitchflesh ...
You could enable Target of target frames. OR you could just set up a macro to intervene target of target
shrewd plinth
If you watch him when he preps the fixate, shortly before he starts running his target plate should swap off you
twilit lagoon
hi guys, new to prot warr and got some rotation questions since i dont read anything about those spells: do we ever press whirlwind, Rend, Slam?
lusty grotto
target of target intervene in a new bind is pretty solid for that reflect
shrewd plinth
The guy he’s peeking at unless you’ve dropped aggro is the one
lusty grotto
hi guys, new to prot warr and got some rotation questions since i dont read anyt...
safe to remove from your bars
orchid mural
You could enable Target of target frames. OR you could just set up a macro to in...
hmm.. would u have that macro?
bronze wraith
You could enable Target of target frames. OR you could just set up a macro to in...
Do you have a sample of this macro? I am kind of ass with macros
twilit lagoon
safe to remove from your bars
was expecting that, thanks mate !
bronze wraith
hi guys, new to prot warr and got some rotation questions since i dont read anyt...
Revenge is better, you shouldn't have slam downtime, and rend is applied through thunderclap.
lusty grotto
/cast [@targetoftarget,exists] Intervene; shoud work Arth
orchid mural
appreciate
bronze wraith
`/cast [@targetoftarget,exists] Intervene;` shoud work Arth
Ty
echo egret
At 614 I still can't reliably kill the egg on Zekvir ??, despite a damage-oriented build and saving cooldowns.
Am I doing something wrong ? Is it heavily reliant on RNG shield slam and execute procs ?
tribal wharf
i was running a dungeon when he just suddenly appeared on me
didnt notice till i looked at the nmae
celest obsidian
Yeah he does that sometimes like the butcher in diablo
violet ginkgo
`/cast [@targetoftarget,exists] Intervene;` shoud work Arth
how does this targetoftarget command work actually?
tribal wharf
my thought is zekvirs should come in and do a mechanic that mimics something you would find on a raid or key fight
still deadly monster
celest obsidian
how does this targetoftarget command work actually?
If your current target is targeting someone else, and you press this button, you'll cast intervene on the boss's target
narrow hull
how does this targetoftarget command work actually?
target is targeting ally, use to auto intervene to ally
but I just use mouseover for party frame personally
dawn geode
i use that macro on a modifier for my regular MO intercept, it's pretty handy
lusty grotto
yup what they said
narrow hull
oh yeah alt alt modifier would be dope
twilit lagoon
safe to remove from your bars
anything else i forgot to mention but dont need to bind? 😄
lusty grotto
just those 3
lavish fjord
hello fellas prot warrior. some one know if there is a spread sheet with all spell that intervene can block?
twilit lagoon
thanks
lusty grotto
hamstring is very situational too, and since we use TC slow it might be safe to remove as well, however i still keep it up cause Lockwood sometimes still bugs out
junior viper
is 92 revenge casts over a M+ too little?
junior viper
to be brutally honest i only revenge on free proc, or to get SS back if clap+ss on cd
lusty grotto
if anything you should look at them if youre revenging too much
the free proc doesnt matter as thane
you just ignore it, its bottom tier prio
lavish fjord
hello fellow prot warrior. someone knows if there's a spreadsheet with all the spells that intervene can block?
junior viper
yeah its my last button to get shield slam back
lusty grotto
no there isnt
but it works on all fixates and physical ranged attacks
thats about it
since its just a couple of things, a list isnt needed
and stitchflesh's breath, but thats in the reflect sheet
lavish fjord
but it works on all fixates and physical ranged attacks
you know if it work with this?
urban bane
do you mean blightbone? 🤔
graceful kite
you know if it work with this?
no
shrewd plinth
Colossus vs thane differences dumbed down for a guy who has only run Thane?
graceful kite
or it might but you both will get the dot
graceful kite
Colossus vs thane differences dumbed down for a guy who has only run Thane?
you press extra thing sometimes and cast more revenge
lavish fjord
or it might but you both will get the dot
but the dot is magic right?
lusty grotto
yeah it doesnt
smoky anvil
Colossus vs thane differences dumbed down for a guy who has only run Thane?
Thane big rage, large leeway for bad button press
Colossus big dam smash, brain needed, less rage, less leeway for no brain
graceful kite
is brain needed for colossus
graceful kite
I think its false advertisement
shrewd plinth
Brain needed…?
lusty grotto
and why this don't help healer with this talented?
storm shield works
just not baseline intervene
but storm shield works on anything magical
graceful kite
and why this don't help healer with this talented?
because this shield is very weak
shrewd plinth
Storm shield is like 1.5 mil magic if your armor is 500k
But that’s like 1/4 of a dps bar, it helps but nothing wild
smoky anvil
It’s a nice buffer sometimes so heals are less stressed. Like corrupt channels before last boss of grim butthole.
bronze wraith
hello fellow prot warrior. someone knows if there's a spreadsheet with all the s...
I think it is in pinned
graceful kite
Storm shield is like 1.5 mil magic if your armor is 500k
I really want some of your armor
lavish fjord
I really want some of your armor
+1
shrewd plinth
Oh is it based off stamina?
lone bane
havent found any info on this trinket but isnt flat damage reduction really good ? especially for m+?
shrewd plinth
I know it’s my 500k x3 somehow
smoky anvil
No. It’s triple your amount of armor.
graceful kite
havent found any info on this trinket but isnt flat damage reduction really good...
you sell it and buy 4 health potions
smoky anvil
So it’s ~400-450k ish
shrewd plinth
Oh is it that small then..?
lone bane
that bad?
graceful kite
yes
shrewd plinth
Oof I thought it was kind of weak at what I thought was 1.5M, sorry for being off on that
graceful kite
passive strength is better than nothing but green text thing is useless
bronze wraith
havent found any info on this trinket but isnt flat damage reduction really good...
This is a pre mitigation. So it cuts off before block, before armor, before % reductions. So everything you build for makes this trinket worse
lavish fjord
ty all for the info about intervene
bronze wraith
ill go back to using silken chain then
Silken chain is insanely better. Just straight 15% less attacks when you need is along with a shield is better. That 15% attack slow is huge and stacks with other sources.
smoky anvil
Silken chain fucks, all my homies like silken chain
smoky anvil
He stated he was mistaken. No need to bully lil bro.
tribal wharf
this is just standing around armor
maybe he means with avatar and other crap there is a way to get to 500k armor in combat
and then it does a 1.5m shield
so in those cases its useful, thats what i've heard
lavish fjord
I think he was making an example
tribal wharf
okay, still, if you only have base 150k armor and someone says 3x500k armor
its misleading and unfactual
lusty grotto
he said he was mistaken, its fine Yogi
tribal wharf
we may only even reach 300k by end of 11.3 with full gear and enchants (no raid buffs)
tribal wharf
and the paladin will have to use in it in the quest cinematic to save hallowfall
plush tendon
orchid gulch
Nice source, got any more where that came from?
tribal wharf
so then, paladins are overpowered
i can see it comin
cuz its gotta be to do with the light
all them candles n bonfires n shit
the sun night whatever crystal thing acts as day night
could be priest shit too, even light forge draenie
void skiff
Paladins being able to use the dark instead of the light by channeling their powers properly like the crystal and Narru do
tribal wharf
the purple magic when it turns to night
looks exactly like warlock shadow dmg spell, or more specificaly, spriest spell effects
orchid gulch
Paladins are just priests who wanted to be warriors but didn't pass the skyhold entrance exam.
agile elbow
It is a rather high jump up to Skyhold.
plush tendon
naw, Paladins are cool
Paladins fit that knight/crusader archtype, and us Warriors get to be Berserker/Fighter
tribal wharf
i will expect to see shadow priest and normal priest and paladins to get really strong
this expansion
around time of hallowfall raid
plush tendon
Shadow wont be kept down for much longer me thinks
tribal wharf
assuming thats even a thing
plush tendon
and disc is pretty good
orchid gulch
Normal priests, like spriests are a special case.
plush tendon
Ret plays well
smoky anvil
I miss the broken isles fast travel. Descending from Skyhold like a vengeful god was lit.
orchid gulch
Sure, they may be a bit tentacly, but some priests like it that way.
void skiff
I mean to be fair Paladin has been a waxing and waning tank class where they’re meh beginning of a xpack and better towards the end. Because they’re consistently stat dependent
plush tendon
I miss the broken isles fast travel. Descending from Skyhold like a vengeful god...
they should have class order halls every expansion
orchid gulch
they should have class order halls every expansion
Skyhold but underground. Groundhold.
plush tendon
like Archeus should be flying above Dornagal, a rogue quarter somewhere in the spider lands, paladins have a church in Hallowfall
tribal wharf
you know that shit in dalaran where you cant go into horde side as alliance
they need that but for warrior, and paladin, inside the outside city
autumn glen
My action bar hotkeys stopped working mid fight, desperate stuff 😂
tribal wharf
so, its a bar and only warrior can get inside
fuck you mages
mages have to go to uh, library or some crap
orchid gulch
Look at the nerds and their...uh ...libraruh.
slender wedge
@lavish fjord you found spells that can be blocked by intervene? didnt found on pinned
deft mortar
havent found any info on this trinket but isnt flat damage reduction really good...
Idk if this applies after mitigation, it may significantly lower % dmg taken from packs you take alot of smaller hits from
orchid gulch
<@257592152450793473> you found spells that can be blocked by intervene? didnt f...
You can't.
Only melee and ranged attacks. No spells.
deft mortar
Like idk if mobs hit you 250k each post mitigation that's like 10% reduction, no?
slender wedge
Only melee and ranged attacks. No spells.
i mean, there are "spells" that are you can intervene, like this frontal from first boss on NW
unkempt trout
i know there is a spell reflect WA, but is there a spell block one for keys. it's a big learning curve to remember everything thats magic/blockable
deft mortar
Against a pack of 5 that can maybe save some rage into IP
orchid gulch
Idk if this applies after mitigation, it may significantly lower % dmg taken fro...
It applies pre mitigation.
deft mortar
It's dogs hit then
lusty grotto
i mean, there are "spells" that are you can intervene, like this frontal from fi...
thats the only one
deft mortar
I want that grim batol trinket tbh
slender wedge
thats the only one
deft mortar
3k str and 7k mastery on demand goes hard for overall dps
Right before demolish etc.
That like what, 15% atk pow?
orchid gulch
Technically that's a ranged attack that does spell damage.
It's complicated.
deft mortar
That like a 2nd avatar
slender wedge
Technically that's a ranged attack that does spell damage.
It's complicated.
ikr, just saying that i was referring to that uwu
unkempt trout
are intervenes included in that spreadsheet for reflect/block
deft mortar
Besides it's multiplicative with avatar
orchid mural
`/cast [@targetoftarget,exists] Intervene;` shoud work Arth
hmmm i copied that exactly and it didn't work.
do i need to enable a function at all?
deft mortar
Just let your teammate die
lusty grotto
hmmm i copied that exactly and it didn't work.
do i need to enable a function a...
ill test it out in a few
deft mortar
If they can't interrupt or use their own CD they deserve it
Whenever someone gets MCd in Grim Batol I just click execute
north river
Hey Folks!
Im rerolling back to Prot Warrior, because Fury gets to much nerfs and i dont enjoy sitting 30min+ in a M+ Queue. Now i need some advice, which one would be better?
Shield 1 is from a Delve, its has 1,6k Strengh, 2,4k Bonusarmor and a Procc, when i take Magicdamage, then i could get a Shield which absorbs 2,7 mio Damage from any sources.
Shield 2 is from CoT.
What would you pick? 🤔
deft mortar
No mercy for failing mechanics
unkempt trout
is there a list of useful intervenes for this season
lusty grotto
Hey Folks!
Im rerolling back to Prot Warrior, because Fury gets to much nerfs an...
the first one
slender wedge
does intervene prevent dmg from Morbid fix? tried few times, some it seems to help avoiding dmg, some dont. maybe first ones some coincidence
orchid gulch
Hey Folks!
Im rerolling back to Prot Warrior, because Fury gets to much nerfs an...
Hielaman.
lusty grotto
does intervene prevent dmg from Morbid fix? tried few times, some it seems to he...
yes
intervene is 10 yards
misty shuttle
Why is spare meat hook S tier?
lusty grotto
so they need to be close
orchid gulch
The other one is okay, but garbage if anything comes in it's ilvl range.
lusty grotto
they run out of 10 yards, theyre dead
lusty grotto
because of the 300k HP that i get here? 🤔
and secondaries
orchid gulch
because of the 300k HP that i get here? 🤔
Lack of stats, rather.
molten gorge
@targettarget
slender wedge
@lusty grotto OOOOH, gotcha. I was thinking that i should use intervene before mob start moving
molten gorge
btw
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> OOOOH, gotcha. I was thinking that i should use intervene ...
nah
north river
Alright, then Bonusarmor is crap, am i right? Why should we use then the Pant Entchant for more Armor? 
molten gorge
hmmm i copied that exactly and it didn't work.
do i need to enable a function a...
/cast [@targettarget, exists] Intervene
lusty grotto
Alright, then Bonusarmor is crap, am i right? Why should we use then the Pant En...
cause we have a talent that increases AP with armor gained
misty shuttle
they run out of 10 yards, theyre dead
Not often mobs/bosses runsway?
north river
2,4k Bonusarmor on that shield = pewpew?
orchid gulch
Alright, then Bonusarmor is crap, am i right? Why should we use then the Pant En...
Bonus armour is okay, but more stats is just okayer.
slender wedge
tyvm @lusty grotto
north river
I understand. Thank you Guys very much 🙂
mellow quartz
Not often mobs/bosses runsway?
often the player targeted runs away from you
lusty grotto
Not often mobs/bosses runsway?
10 yards from you, not from mobs
if they are getting fixated let them know they can just plant feet and cast
if they run, they'll outrange you and they'll die
orchid gulch
But the DPS rat instincts will take over and they run anyways...
orchid mural
/cast [@targettarget, exists] Intervene
this worked, thanks!
frosty holly
But the DPS rat instincts will take over and they run anyways...
haha, this. Whenever a ranged for example manage to aggro something that haven't reached me yet. They never run towards me. But away
molten gorge
this worked, thanks!
You're welcome King
misty shuttle
10 yards from you, not from mobs
Not sure i understand
lusty grotto
Not sure i understand
intervene is a buff, they need to be within 10 yards of you
more than 10 yards of you = buff fades
north river
but only for the block, not the Shield, right?
lusty grotto
you replied to an intervene comment
im not sure what you mean
what do you want to know
misty shuttle
Why is it s tier
molten gorge
because it does a lot of dmg
misty shuttle
I Can see Why in pvp
molten gorge
and when the guide was written, it was doing even more
unkempt trout
haha, this. Whenever a ranged for example manage to aggro something that haven't...
to be fair, usually the mob is between the two of you, at least at the start
lament zealot
It's not very good anymore is it?
misty shuttle
Swap it in for stitchflesh nuke maybe?
lusty grotto
sure
spear damage amp + nuke trinkets is pretty solid
can hold mandate for it as well etc
orchid gulch
Does spear still increase trinket damage?
orchid gulch
Thought they got rid of class / item damage amp interactions dye to the flask of souls fiasco.
orchid gulch
Draught of souls, it was.
misty shuttle
Another thing, top warriors seem to prio haste/vers for m+
orchid gulch
Top warriors take more damage than you, so versatility rises in value.
silent sphinx
idk man, im taking some pretty big damage because im bad
think vers would be better for me too
orchid gulch
You don't do DPS nor threat if you're dead on the floor.
waxen frigate
idk man, im taking some pretty big damage because im bad
Git gud
orchid gulch
Improper play is no excuse, versa won't help you there. The mitigation is too small in general.
drifting fable
if youre not dying in one hit vers will not save you
silent sphinx
just ran a +10 with some 625 ilevel chads with my little 615
i was getting slapped so hard
genuinley felt like a kid
lusty grotto
615 is fine for 10s
orchid gulch
Keep SB up and time your CDs. There's a reason our kit is like 500% DR.
silent sphinx
it was interupts, they weren't doing much of them
not a lot of CC on the team either
misty shuttle
Im 623 ilvl , 2700 rio - shiit hurts
orchid gulch
Then it's not a you issue, unless you interrupted neither.
silent sphinx
i had 25, next highest was hunter at 9
but yeah they did big domoge so managed to time it somehow
waxen frigate
it was interupts, they weren't doing much of them
“Chads”
They suck at the game dawg they just have gear
mental hound
Memes with gear.
tardy abyss
depends on the context
waxen frigate
like aren't chads just memes
It’s contextual yea
Kinda like based
It can easily be ironic or unironic
void skiff
I can’t remember the DR points for secondaries anyone Wana help me out
tribal wharf
21k crit, 19.8k haste 21k mastery 23.4k versa
lusty grotto
thats the first -10% softcap
26400k haste, 28k crit, 31200 vers, 28k mastery is the -20% softcap
void skiff
I’m at almost 30% on crit so I was going to shift stats a little to avoid DR and get more out of other stats
drifting fable
just sim even if you DR it is possibly better
lusty grotto
DRs are always based on rating numbers
reef hazel
fhuuuck me finally almost timed sob 10 and some guy trolled the dispell smfh
lusty grotto
ihrving is absolutely correct
reef hazel
can't take this anymore
tribal wharf
whats the chances they ever bring back shrine of the storms for keys
imagine that for pugs in 2024/25
narrow hull
fhuuuck me finally almost timed sob 10 and some guy trolled the dispell smfh
I feel you man. Was about to easily time a CoT but paladin judgmented the 2 adds before last boss, queue wipe and run back.
drifting fable
its more likely than you think theyve rolled through quite a few bfa dungeons at this point
id imagine theyd use them all before a repeat unless theres a dungeon they realllly dont want to use
tribal wharf
shrine would be a severe shock to the system for ppl that have had it on ez mode autopilot for 20 minute keys
41 minute timer
lusty grotto
shrine would be easy nowadays
drifting fable
i mean they had HoV in DF and that was a long ass timer
tribal wharf
i wont get into it, but if you mean from pug perspective i disagree
not the worst but very close to the worst key to pug
tribal wharf
theres alot of painful parts of that dungeon
lusty grotto
dont think the general m+ pop hasn't
merry sluice
This season makes me question that 
lusty grotto
well yeah, there's variables
nocturne spindle
at least 2 of them are easy
lusty grotto
i guarantee you
that if classic BFA hits
pugs will be generally better than what youre thinking of
kicking isnt a hard science anymore
tribal wharf
i think they could add kinges rest right now for season 2
and ppl still wouldnt free you out of the coffins
and they would still stand in the ogre right after get shot into air and fall and die
lusty grotto
they could
and we have an SR that doesnt fade after a reflect now
so we have magic DR for Zul's dot
if they make it not spellblockable
for whatever reason
tribal wharf
last boss does alot of dmg too
hard if you dont tank him in the right spot
both shrine and kr have bosses you can walk off the plathform and instantly die
stark mortar
Can you go into mythic+ with fury gear but with sword and shield?
Kinda wanna tank a few times but I dont feel like farming tank gear and stuff
Not like high mythic maybe just like upto +5 ish
lusty grotto
Can you go into mythic+ with fury gear but with sword and shield?
yeah youll be fine
even at 10s
if you have a hero shield
stark mortar
Wheres the best place to farm hero shield?
tribal wharf
or craft
neon elk
I would go mists cuz its easier and iirc has less loot in table
stark mortar
Thank you
oblique gust
hi !,anyone notice colossus are bug ?
revenge doesn't give stack of colossal might when hit 3 or more target
strong forum
You're missing seismic reverberation
karmic plinth
u need seismic reverberation talent for it to work
abstract gyro
hello guys, do you have a intervene macro who work on targetting the partyframe pls ?
solid sun
I use Cell and have intervene as a right click function within that
green lava
hi! im thinking of changing my main to prot warrior
how is it doing this expa?
is it fun?
tribal wharf
/cast [@targetoftarget,exists] Intervene; do you guys reccomend this for general use?
or for specific scenario
solid sun
That looks like it’s for intervening your cotank in raid
I never do that because I’m not helping them live. If they die and I live I become the leader
:>
lusty grotto
hello guys, do you have a intervene macro who work on targetting the partyframe ...
/cast [@mouseover,help,exists][] Intervene;
solid sun
Did the boss troll you or did the group
reef hazel
Group
lusty grotto
/cast [@targetoftarget,exists] Intervene; do you guys reccomend this for genera...
no, its not for general use
reef hazel
Just died to water swirlies not even the dispell this time
dusky canopy
20 hours left before uninstall @lusty grotto
reef hazel
2 sob 10's back to back that we have fucking tons of time then the group just feeds the fucking squid
dusky canopy
solid sun
Who is uninstalling
waxen frigate
Who is uninstalling
Uninstalling my penis from Erga’s mother
And then reinstalling it.
dusky canopy
Blizzard is utilizing all 10 iq they have to “balance” fury
solid sun
Hot
lusty grotto
And then reinstalling it.
reef hazel
what's easier sv, gb or nw on a 10
I'm giving up on sob people cannot keep it together for the whole run fml
neon elk
Nw gb sv , in that order , easiest to hardest, imo
reef hazel
Aight time to grind nw fr
waxen frigate
SoB genuinely one of the easier 10s tho
reef hazel
Agreed
waxen frigate
I nearly 3 chested one
neon elk
Nw is kinda coinflip on heal tho
reef hazel
I've had super smooth sob's like 3 in a row
reef hazel
up to the final boss where people just delete themselves in the most stupid ways possible
waxen frigate
The third boss basically bugs out every run
“Bugs out” how
solid sun
Every run this season we pull that boss 2 or 3 times because the aboms will do the animation for the hook and it doesn’t actually go out
neon elk
I find nw consistently easier than other two, but ive did only few of them this week, idk how hard affix can fuck you there
neon elk
Every run this season we pull that boss 2 or 3 times because the aboms will do t...
Havent seen that once ngl
reef hazel
I've seen people line that shit up perfectly, run away then the hook just snaps to them lol
solid sun
Had it happen 4 hooks in a row one attempt. Was amazing
reef hazel
Hook airballing or aimbotting people is what i've seen the most
narrow hull
havent seen it since the hotfixes
neon elk
Ive had tons of "buged" 3rd boss in gb, but nw was chill so far
reef hazel
I havent run one this week tbf
narrow hull
on second hook ground most ppl just in hitbox and get hooked
void skiff
Hooks been hitting pets.
reef hazel
I've never a GB boss bug bless up
Most weird shit has to be db final boss
the % he dies on has zero logic
void skiff
The majority of “weird” hook issues are because of pets. To include some of the summons like xuen.
reef hazel
99% of the time its fine but ive had a run or two where he just tanks through the better part of 59% hp
void skiff
I’ve had 3 times on DB where rash will just not have their health-bar affected by incoming damage.
reef hazel
QQ does anyone know how the spell CDS on nameplates works given that stops dont interrupt anymore?
Like does everything stay in sync or does it just get messed up
https://wago.io/LyVvlKxvs this wa
solid sun
I think they’re asking if the cd shown on the nameplate starts counting down again if you stop a cast without interrupting it
Or if it reflects that the cast will start up again once the knock up or whatever it is has ended
reef hazel
ah ok thanks
Idk I assumed it started rolling from cast for whatever reason rather than completion
solid sun
Well it doesn’t do it at completion necessarily either
If you interrupt it, it doesn’t complete the cast
lusty grotto
it really depends on the spell
reef hazel
Thanks
lusty grotto
at the start of the tier, possibly depending on what is tracked etc
junior viper
gonna sound strange, but is leech on a weapon worth more than other items with leech?
lusty grotto
nah
junior viper
then it must be a visual bug
with weapon + talent 3%, no other items
no weapon, others items
sweet summit
you have 8% from talents and .39% from weapon
junior viper
theres the issue, thanks lad
neon elk
Damn 13% leech , im at around 10% but thinking about swaping into speed for zoomies
neon elk
U use ms talents also?
sweet summit
is it primary or secondary gem stat that determines color i don't get it 
neon elk
Secondary
long bronze
I just have the wowhead guide talents rn
neon elk
Because u can get 8% from gem ( maaaybe 10 but u should use stam one iirc) and then idk where u geting other 8-6%
long bronze
I have the df boot enchant but that's it
south pond
for high keys on colossus, still just haste/versa or do we wanna splash some crit?
south pond
Haste crit
Was talking high keys, only person Ive seen stack crit is Shuh
every other person does the sensible thing and is stacking haste/vers right now.
waxen frigate
leech demon ama
Leeches are proficient at sucking, so i guess it runs in the family
lusty grotto
every other person does the sensible thing and is stacking haste/vers right now.
How's it sensible
south pond
Nvm actually, my bad for asking this in here.
long bronze
I don't even have fast footwork 👨🦽
south zealot
for high keys on colossus, still just haste/versa or do we wanna splash some cri...
anything outside of max haste doesnt matter
you dont want to “stack” vers or crit you want some of each
and you still want some mastery, just not as much
long bronze
my sim told me not to go haste, I vowed to never use a computer again
checkmate robots
south zealot
for damage that can be true for sure
waxen frigate
my sim told me not to go haste, I vowed to never use a computer again
My sim told me “yarbza fleezle blorb” so I locked him in a pool until he drowned
south zealot
based
long bronze
what's the best way to keep track of when to use spell block? I'm certain underutilizing it.
void wadi
at what ilvl can we tank +7s?
waxen frigate
at what ilvl can we tank +7s?
You need exactly 619.38
(There is not an actual number
waxen frigate
I did a 5 or so at like 580
toxic pewter
yeah dang
waxen frigate
Felt fine
toxic pewter
just finally timed a grim batol lol
do u guys tank third boss in that one spot
that makes it easier
do u guys know about it
lofty warren
Cell can do this
mighty valley
what's the best way to keep track of when to use spell block? I'm certain underu...
Check the spreadsheet in pins for places where it works but tbh the best way is to get slapped by magic damage and say “oh yeah I have this button”
urban bane
do u guys tank third boss in that one spot
i just mentally split the room into quadrants and have one knockback per quadrant. ez pz
long bronze
yeah I was looking at the spreadsheet and thinking to myself nearly every pack in theory this could be useful, but not sure which ones are the most dangerous. I'm guessing the magic busters in the maze in mists and those fellas in grim batol would be good uses for sure
also I crafted my 636 shield so go ahead and say grats for myth shield in vault tomorrow
cursive leaf
in Arakara, do anyone met with this: before the last boss, there are some winged monsters
my dmg/aoe taunt was not worked against them
I know they are jumping out
but I didnt have the "general" aggro either
I recorded it, but IDK how to share it because its a part of 5 min videó
but it was really weird
edgy bone
Nvm actually, my bad for asking this in here.
Man I'm struggling to even get haste on all my pieces
I'll take haste vers or haste crit
long bronze
I'm guessing your ret and mage just pressed all their buttons because they wanted to do big dam
if I had a nickel for everytime I had a enh or ret floorpov after slamming every button the second I put a toe in a pack I'd have at least a couple nickels
vestal moat
Any good tips for ara-kara first pull lust at the miniboss? im losing aggro sometimes in my haste to get to the miniboss fast or people getting picked off by poison. might not be my fault but any tips would be apprecated
dark cosmos
at what ilvl can we tank +7s?
you can tank 7s on a fresh 80 if you and your group are good, just go try it
toxic pewter
strange thing is though hes having aggro issues even after the mage and pally die
void wadi
no group, pugging
dark cosmos
you have tank privilage, just go, if you sink the key you sink the key 🤷
lusty grotto
Any good tips for ara-kara first pull lust at the miniboss? im losing aggro some...
you dont have to do the pull spawn to miniboss
just do 2
one to the bottom of the stairs from spawn
and then one in the area with the miniboss
timer is pretty free
no need to rush it
inner wren
no group, pugging
if ur pugging you just gotta build some io and it’s fine
cursive leaf
strange thing is though hes having aggro issues even after the mage and pally di...
Exactly
And if You watch closely
inner wren
with friends I tanked 10s at 609 just fine
lusty grotto
you can combine 1+2, or 2+3
dark cosmos
They didnt pump at all
i mean it looks like you didnt have aggro even during the duration of ch shout, are you sure you didnt get bubbled or something bizzare like that?
void wadi
ok thx
cursive leaf
i mean it looks like you didnt have aggro even during the duration of ch shout, ...
Dont think so
dark cosmos
with no logs and this bigfoot-sighting tier footage idk really
void wadi
i have 2 champion gear, crit haste bracer and vers mastery boots. so i should craft boots 619 with dawnthread lining?
cursive leaf
with no logs and this bigfoot-sighting tier footage idk really
Yeahh
lusty grotto
i have 2 champion gear, crit haste bracer and vers mastery boots. so i should cr...
id say bracers
void wadi
huh still bracer? why
lusty grotto
if both are champ
vestal moat
ok cool . what about second or third miniboss? kill platform first then go to boss or chain them all? the spiders with circles arond them that explode are really toxic for me esp as tank. sometimes have to leave melee to avoid them exploding and someone gets meleed
lusty grotto
because bracers have less stats total than boots
and youre likely to replace boots with either another crafted item, or myth boots
void wadi
oh
lusty grotto
their stats dont matter
void wadi
what are the least stat items to craft?
lusty grotto
bracers
void wadi
only bracer?
long bronze
yeah actually looking closer your challenging shout just dropped off the mobs
long bronze
peculiar
void wadi
i see
lusty grotto
im only mentioning slots you can put linings on
lusty grotto
cause otherwise accessory/rings
void wadi
okk
lusty grotto
you cant put linings on those
void wadi
after 2 embel, i go ring/neck?
cursive leaf
Okay
Omg I just noticed that
They constantly reseted
My thunderclap and rend
Dissapeared
Appearer
Constantly
The debuff from.them
And also the stun effect from cap totem
Instantly removed
Wtf is this buh
Iam so toxic rn
This is why we depleted the key
IT was 10
round pendant
Why are you typing like that
inner wren
Just go next bro ain’t no use sweating now
cursive leaf
Typing from phone
neon elk
U can make one long sentence even on phone , dont need to send after every word
neon elk
after 2 embel, i go ring/neck?
Depends, u have wep/shield ? And what are your jewels, and chances at mythic rare items
urban bane
typing discord messages like they were william carlos williams poems
void wadi
just do M+ mostly with friends
neon elk
Yea then i would say neck is pretty good choice
nocturne spindle
but rare neck
neon elk
I would say neck is even better than rings, as u cant find a "good" neck in m+ while we have few good rings
Rare neck at hc is worse than crafted ( for me at least) and since he isnt mythic raiding he wont replace his crafted , like ever
lusty grotto
i wouldnt say that
there are options
just fill ilvl
dont focus on stats
emergency stop keychain is a good neck and farmable
neon elk
Yea but u can farm everything on same ilvl, and once u have everything on same ilvl it kinda boils down to stats
At least thats my logic
lusty grotto
yeah but he doesnt
neon elk
Also i would rather use spark on something im not gona replace anytime soon
lusty grotto
again, thats you
not him
hes the one asking
and the state of his character is not the same as yours
does that make sense?
neon elk
It makes , and its true but still
lusty grotto
reset the buff
void wadi
do they not stack?
lusty grotto
take damage
neon elk
Get dmg and heal back
lusty grotto
go down below 80%
lusty grotto
waxen frigate
Anyone here like DOOM
sweet summit
no everyone here hates it
merry sluice
Not a single soul here like doom obviously
waxen frigate
Idk just curious
tribal wharf
why
note that i didnt bring it up again, and when i did last time, it was to prove a point, which i moved away from immediately after
because im not obesssed with it?
i just kinda like it?
you want some doom? heres your doom
random doom pic i have saved
here, trump as a pinky demon, so we can get it out of system
waxen frigate
Based okay
old heron
Ive got weap and shield 6/6 hero track. Belt and bracers crafted on 619. Should I still craft weap or shield, or upgrade belt or bracers to max crafted iL?
neon elk
Did u do any 10s? If yes then i would wait till vault probably
teal linden
Hey boys, quick question. Are we doing power or Aotd on wep for enchant?
I'm mostly doing m+
lusty grotto
radiant for M+, depths for raid
tribal wharf
radiant for M+, depths for raid
i thought it was the complete backwards of this
depth for keys cuz aoe and radiant for raid cuz single target dmg
lusty grotto
no
inner wren
no
smoky anvil
No
void wadi
woohoo
did +7 mist at 609
ah fuckk
i bought depths for my prot warr
lol
wowhead say to buy depths?
lusty grotto
yes
wowhead says buy depths, but its not the best for m+
as stated by nome who also writes the guide
lusty grotto
neon elk
15 is still rather cheap, was that r3?
void wadi
the guide isn't clear. unfortunately
lusty grotto
more stats is better almost always for m+
narrow hull
just rock it till next weapon upgrade
lusty grotto
yeah no reason to change it lmao
hell no reason to spend 15k on an enchant to begin with lmao
void wadi
i crafted my weapon
narrow hull
was timing 7's at like 590 ilvl, don't need any enchants anyways
well you can recraft
later
void wadi
yea
lusty grotto
so?
narrow hull
pretty sure that strips enchant no?
narrow hull
oh thank fuck
lusty grotto
myth sikran is the best weapon
void wadi
haha
lusty grotto
so... yeah
narrow hull
What strips enchants then? It's catalyst isnt it
lusty grotto
ok then youre good
lusty grotto
What strips enchants then? It's catalyst isnt it
enchants? nothing
narrow hull
im on crazy pills then
narrow hull
unintended in the process of converting that I thought existed for some reason
anyways
lusty grotto
youre probably thinking of embelishments
neon elk
But they also dont grt removed upon recrsfts , unles u want them to, and u cant convert them to set so ..
tall kettle
how much shieldblock uptime would a decent tank have in details at end of key?
restive sage
close to 100%
tall kettle
ok thx
was in a key as healer, tank had 61%, was wondering if its hard to keep it up, felt like there was a lot of downtime
restive sage
yeah that is quite bad
pallid quiver
how much shieldblock uptime would a decent tank have in details at end of key?
To be specific, what matters is 100% uptime for blockable attacks, but that loosely correlates to high shield block uptime in details
If you're in constant combat with the right talents, you can achieve 100% block uptime entirely
tall kettle
thanks
icy flax
I put a prot log from an 8 mists in log review, no particular reason just interested in general feedback 
sinful copper
close to 100%
for real, we should be 100% uptime on shield block???
narrow hull
should pretty much never be down during an encounter.
sinful copper
what if i use into the fray instead?
narrow hull
Im at 27% haste and use ITF and have no issues with sb uptime.
tropic tangle
I won't ping him, but I'm eagerly awaiting Nim's entry into this conversation
long bronze
first couple packs in siege are really evil for SB uptime though, dat haste debuff oof
tropic tangle
like Groundhog day in here
restive sage
I won't ping him, but I'm eagerly awaiting Nim's entry into this conversation
would you say there will be
lusty grotto
I won't ping him, but I'm eagerly awaiting Nim's entry into this conversation
not bothering anymore tbh
restive sage
heavy repercussions?
tropic tangle
lmao