protection

[hearty stump]

I'm looking at Kira running 15k vers, Yoda running similar and you just kind of reconsider life

[bleak breach]

I kinda just do what I need to for vault

[jagged pier]

Nope

[faint maple]

If you need redraft smth that has embellishment, and remove it:)

[gritty eagle]

oh ok 😄

[strong forum]

That's 15% vers

[jagged pier]

They go to io or murlokio and copy from there

[strong forum]

Aka 7.5% DR

That's less than 1 keylevel worth

It does fuckall

Don't think so hard about it

[bleak breach]

Done a 10 each week for vault and that’s it so far. I guess if I started spamming them I’d start timing them. All just about doing enough of it

[jagged pier]

Ppl ovrr think everything and no think about their play which is were survivbility comes from

[hearty stump]

7.5 DR sounds.. pretty big especially with the +12 affix?

[gritty eagle]

i usually thought the most popular builds on subcreation etc was usually the wowhead ones

[hearty stump]

You generally want all bases covered.

[strong forum]

You lose DR in other places

In other forms

[zealous goblet]

like parry

[strong forum]

It's not 7.5% vs nothing

[bleak breach]

Gain that amount of crit and you probably gain just as much from Larry

Parry ffs

[strong forum]

Love larry

[jagged pier]

Im running like 1% vers and not dying in 11s i dunno chief

[sick sentinel]

hazed myself in a 10 SoB forgetting to put defensive stance on the whole key but we timed yolo 😎 gettin back into the swing of things

[strong forum]

Again, beyond haste stats do not have a relevant impact on your survival

It's just a bandwagon and lack of understanding that people just stack vers as 2nd stat

[zealous goblet]

mastery gives an increase to the amount blocked, crit gives parry chance, vers dr, and haste gives shield block cooldown reduction. also more rage gen. all secondaries give survivability

[strong forum]

"it was always considered good so surely it's good"

Nothing more

[hearty stump]

I mean I feel 11s aren't that difficult to begin with. My question kind of goes in line with 12s due to the added affix.

But the parry chance miss is valid naturally

[sick sentinel]

they added affixes in 12s?

[strong forum]

12s aren't that much harder on the tank

It's moreso that shit just lives that much longer

[hearty stump]

Aren't they? an extra 20% damage?

[reef hazel]

Yo anyone had weird behaviour with groupfinder? I'm applying to keys as tank but group leads are saying I'm showing up as applying for DPS

[inland raft]

20% of 0 is still 0

[strong forum]

^

[hearty stump]

We're mitigating though, not nullifying?

[strong forum]

It's the dps that are at a way higher chance of dying

[hearty stump]

And a percentage of it.

[strong forum]

From 1shots

Not tanks

Tanks are always the last to die in keys

Unless you fucked up

[hearty stump]

So TL;DR run crit over vers regardless of the key level

[strong forum]

If a tank dies, it's your own fault

[opal forum]

prot war dies to mistake only

[frosty mango]

I can only see this logic being sound if you also control all the other variables like having a 100% consistent group and a mass amount of playtime. Otherwise it’s a pointless fallacy, improve yourself relevant to your current reality not someone else’s

[jagged pier]

Well ive died cause i ran round a corner to pukl trash and no one followed

[strong forum]

Tldr is, get what er stat makes you happier, crit is more dmg and better in big pulls

Vers grants a small amount of flat dmg reduction

That's it

Nothing more nothing less

[tribal wharf]

40% vers or get out

[jagged pier]

Yogi u were doing so well

[unkempt hazel]

100% vers or bust

[strong forum]

GL getting 60k vers

[tribal wharf]

only real tanks have 40% vers

[hearty stump]

change the name

[frosty mango]

Prot is not a dps spec?

[strong forum]

40% vers literally takes 50k if not more

[unkempt hazel]

simply get it

[tribal wharf]

i got like, uhhh 8 or 6% vers

i cant recall

[reef hazel]

I'm being treated like a dps this is descrimination

[hearty stump]

ask for Ansureks ring in raid. See how they respond

[tribal wharf]

acutally, i have very shit versa

[jagged pier]

Just be dps in raid get all the gear

Then swap

Easy

[hearty stump]

I'm just collecting them all at this point I guess.

[graceful kite]

Inspect element on raidbots page add extra 35k dps for it and send a screenshot to your rl

[tribal wharf]

this is my "mastery" set

[hearty stump]

my RL just looks for excuses how not to give gear for healers and tanks.

[tribal wharf]

i had like, 2 good peices of haste mastery gear, wanted to use them tiny bit, have the versa ones for pug braines

cuz, as we know, tank no versa = bad tank

[dusty flare]

Ive heard theres a spreadsheet of reflectable spells in TWW. Is this true? If so, link? 🙂

[graceful kite]

Pins

[bleak breach]

In the lins

[jagged pier]

Which is correct are u living? Are ppl dying to lack of healing? No well they dont need gear

[bleak breach]

Pine

Pins

Why can’t I spell

[hearty stump]

Not saying it's not. Just difficult to gear in some cases.

Especially if bis tank trinkets overlap with bis dps trinkets

Thank god for Sacbrood being in m+

[unkempt hazel]

?

cuz ur a warrior silly

[bleak breach]

Fair

[unkempt hazel]

[hearty stump]

I'm convinced that whenever one of us dies in a key it's because a different warrior somewhere decided to read a book and use too much of our shared braincell.

[zealous goblet]

out of curiosity

who here plays with the personal resource plate

like the vanilla one

[cursive jacinth]

is thunderclap good enough by itself for agro when i charge a pack or should i open with revenge instead obn mythic + trash

[zealous goblet]

depends on what the goal of the initial aggro is

if you're rounding up packs, then yes

thunder clap and keep moving, throw some revenges in if you feel like you missed a few

but afterwards you'll want to throw a spear down or some shit. do your normal opener

[dusty flare]

Thank you

[zealous goblet]

as soon as the dps see you stop moving they gonna think its pumping time

luckily thane has a stronger thunderclap

[frosty mango]

Or as soon as your feet move, really

[zealous goblet]

i don'

i don't fault them

pugging keys is just body language and guesswork

do all your dps know where to fly during dawnbreaker?

hope so!

[frosty mango]

I abuse pings

Like for that specific scenario

And most others

[zealous goblet]

yeah but i play on a render distance of 1

so like

[frosty mango]

Lul

[zealous goblet]

wish me luck im flying into the fog

my pc is 8 years old

[faint maple]

Update it then

[zealous goblet]

you gonna donate me money?

i can open a tip jar, keep your local prot warrior shitposter out of the streets

[zealous goblet]

i make this entire channel either laugh or uncomfortable, no inbetween

i decide its a joke based on reception

[blazing condor]

is the channel laughter in the room with us right now?

[tribal wharf]

im going into the russian laughter room

brb

(its a meme none of you will get probably)

[frosty mango]

Pings are the single biggest thing wow has added in years cmv

Using pings effectively in pugs is a game changer

They’re basically like one of those backpacks with a leash you put on your kid

[zealous goblet]

you think you slick but you were right there in the highschool bathroom getting swirlied while i was getting wedgied by the other bully

[tribal wharf]

well its "show tell thing not say many words"

[zealous goblet]

no prot warrior is actually tough

[tribal wharf]

is what pings is

[frosty mango]

It divorces you from the need to stop to type to communicate and helps keep gameplay fluid

It’s a great innovation and after having it, you miss it in other games

[blazing condor]

luckily most multiplayer games have pings as well

[tribal wharf]

i only ever use the main basic ping exclusively

[unkempt hazel]

not my tank standing there mid run typing out some flame

[blazing condor]

ping on middle mouse button is kinda imba

[tribal wharf]

one of those pings if its not gotta be an I NEED HELP BADLY one

many scenarios in a key, snare or etc

[frosty mango]

I also have it on the rear left top button on my g502

I’m a ping addict

Even the ping of shame, when someone scuffs so badly you have to give them the danger ping

[strong forum]

I prefer ctrl+f

[merry sluice]

Alt+4 is a good ping bind

[blazing condor]

[fluid widget]

I need to bind pings

[unkempt hazel]

I tried it but my game crashed I think

[potent anvil]

I bind ping to capslock.

[violet ginkgo]

Alt+f4 it is.

[peak light]

What do we want to spend crests on first after shield/weapon?

[fluid widget]

Probably embellishment when you replaced weapon with a mythic

[hazy bronze]

Can also run droptimizer

[astral crystal]

how long are your fingers man

or rather, how dextrous

i lose my muscle memory groove if i go to ctrl

[strong forum]

Years of playing pwar

https://tenor.com/view/piano-bruce-almighty-keyboard-keyboard-warrior-fast-typing-gif-3416345

[ornate thicket]

Shift mouse wheel down and up for pings

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/boban-boban-marjanovic-big-hands-laughing-nba-gif-13433073

[jagged pier]

Just use the butt of your hand not a finger

[astral crystal]

holy

[unkempt hazel]

ok mr butthands

[astral crystal]

i mean same but i think that's worked against me, only recently just started using tilde (for pings) and sometimes it throws me off

[strong forum]

Idk ctrl + F is basically the same as shift + F

Just 1 key lower

[astral crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-head-explode-amazing-shocking-wow-gif-19681784

[strong forum]

Very comfy bind

[waxen frigate]

That would be the heel of your hand

[unkempt hazel]

ctrl + 5

[molten gorge]

Ping is on a mouse button for me also, but I have one with 7 buttons so

[faint maple]

Do you have small keyboard?

[strong forum]

Regular full-size

[sharp gale]

Ping is the little 2 to open commands on other games (azerty)

[grizzled orbit]

oh got 3x spark of omens in my bag, dunno what to craft 😛

any tips`?

[unkempt hazel]

craft some maidens

[grizzled orbit]

dont even know what maidens is xD

[unkempt hazel]

[astral crystal]

maidenless

[frosty mango]

Wait till I tell yall I also use foot pedals

Galaxy brain gaming

[grizzled orbit]

maidens is emb?

[faint maple]

I think you have like this

[frosty mango]

Does vial work like other casts where it stops mit when casting?

[faint maple]

5head!

[jagged pier]

[merry sluice]

Honestly

[sharp gale]

Seems like a big keyboard to me, size is not what matters

[merry sluice]

Real gamers curl their thumb or pinky finger underneath their palm and smash it against the side of the alt/ctrl/shift key and then wonder why their arthritis is awful

[sharp gale]

I don’t use crtl I’m not a great finger man

[merry sluice]

Biggest thing I did was get an mmo mouse though. 12 side buttons, creative use of middle mouse click. And a macro button next to left click is 14 extra buttons alone before alt/ctrl/shift mods

[muted arch]

How many crafted pieces are recommended?

[merry sluice]

As few as possible, only your embellished. Crafted have lower ilvl cap than max ilvl gear. But seeing as no one can be max ilvl now, use crafted to fill slots that are lagging behind

[lusty grotto]

all of them

wdym we cant max ilvl

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[bronze wraith]

Hey, is bolster decent on queen for heal absorb? My healers are struggling to get throught the shield and I am pipping last stand and victory rush since they do % geals

[lusty grotto]

use spell block

[merry sluice]

I refuse to believe any non rwf has myth track in every slot, rn

Let’s be realistic

Let alone all upgraded

[faint maple]

2, but if you can craft something higher ilvl then do. But 90 for crest

[lusty grotto]

we have 3 sparks

not 2

all of them

[sharp gale]

I just keep 75 crests for vault

Like I open and can upgrade right away to 639

[lusty grotto]

yeah im keeping 90

gilded

at all times

im past runed so

only gilded needed

[muted arch]

Do we get one of each embellishment?

[lusty grotto]

whatever sims best

[muted arch]

Is there a max of 2?

[lusty grotto]

for embelishments, yes

for crafted items? no

[muted arch]

Ahhh okay

[lusty grotto]

so 2 crafted with embelishments, and 1 crafted without

[muted arch]

So you can only wear 2 embellished items

[merry sluice]

Correct

[muted arch]

Was trying to figure out why 2 pieces is recommended lol

[faint maple]

I still need runed, but I’ve get all this week

[lusty grotto]

it should say so on the tooltip of an embelished items

something like Embelished (2)

[muted arch]

Its cheaper to upgrade mythic gear guilded wise

[merry sluice]

Recommended isn’t too important rn. Crafted is still a good stop-gap for slots that are lagging behind.

2 is recommended bc of the embellished cap, and once you’re max ilvl crafted gear will be lower ilvl than a maxed myth track.

That’s the perfect ideal setup. But getting more crafted if you can’t get a slot to drop isn’t gonna suddenly kill you

[lusty grotto]

sure, if you have the myth piece

[muted arch]

So best bet is to craft 2x 636 for embelishments and boost mythic gear to 639 ya?

[lusty grotto]

not if you have hero gear

[muted arch]

Well ya you cant boost hero gear to 639 lol

[sharp gale]

That’s what I did (im fine being 623 ilvl tbh)

[lusty grotto]

so you have possible crafted slots

[sharp gale]

Next week is spark week ?

[faint maple]

I’m 617😭

[faint maple]

Yeah

[lusty grotto]

you shouldnt bank gilded for a discount

thats just putting yourself at the mercy of RNG

and if you dont mythic raid, that's even worse

[sharp gale]

I kept my third spark just to maybe craft a 2 hand for off spec if I don’t loot in vault

[lusty grotto]

cause you only get one myth item a week via vault

[muted arch]

I mean if u do mythic raid ofc

[lusty grotto]

do you?

[muted arch]

Do I personally? Yes

[lusty grotto]

pugs or guild?

[muted arch]

Guild

[sharp gale]

Mythic raid = spend everything

Just craft embellish

[lusty grotto]

should be good then

[faint maple]

I’m playing fury for the raid, so all my sparks for now in the 2h and wrists to buff embellishment:)

[bronze wraith]

How does spell block help with the heal absorb?

[lusty grotto]

less heal absorb

you can spell block just about everything on queen's fight

[bronze wraith]

You are kidding me.

[lusty grotto]

use it

[bronze wraith]

That is fucking awesome

[lusty grotto]

read the sheet

its both pinned and in #protection-faq

[muted arch]

Whats the other tank in your group

[bronze wraith]

Ty

[bronze wraith]

Blood dk

[muted arch]

Just have blood dk take the absorbs

Easy mode

[sharp gale]

That’s what I did in pug just the Bdk took every absorb

[covert cliff]

Is there a discord to help set up a mythic plus team?

[lusty grotto]

yes

well

not set up, but to look for people

[covert cliff]

That’s what I meant more or less

[lusty grotto]

from those groups you can make friends and you can use that

i forget the name of it but i believe @warm plinth is admin (or a Mod) of one

iirc they post keys for discord people to join and thats how you can get to know people and stuff

[sharp gale]

I never joined a m+ team but I guess there may be a thing on wowprogress/raider.io too

[lusty grotto]

the name of the discord is WME

which you might have seen in titles in LFG postings

WME = WoW made easy

if its not its one of them at least

https://www.wowmadeeasy.com/

perky pugs was another one

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/pug-vergonha-zap-gif-18058110001077175854

[lusty grotto]

im sure there's a lot more

[dusky canopy]

I still have a 606 neck and a 606 sac

Send help

[sharp gale]

« Just drop the heroic raid rare neck »

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/khadgar-mythic-plus-gif-27613248

[dusky canopy]

[jagged pier]

[unkempt hazel]

have u tried looting myth sac from vault?

[dusky canopy]

Did that instead

[unkempt hazel]

[dusky canopy]

Fury gaming

[unkempt hazel]

must be nice

sobs in ww

[dusky canopy]

WW is owning right now though!

[unkempt hazel]

ehh

[blazing condor]

isnt it weird that skarmory was introduced in gen 2

totally feels like a hoenn mon

[unkempt hazel]

middle of the pack in m+ I think?

well ig better this week

[sharp gale]

That’s what I took in my vault this week

[lusty grotto]

ww is in the same position as arms

[unkempt hazel]

1 shotting xal is kinda fun

[lusty grotto]

where they blast ST

[unkempt hazel]

[lusty grotto]

but aoe 💤

[unkempt hazel]

aye

last run looked silly on details

overalls all 3 dps were like 10k off one another

[shy frost]

anyone knows how long this seasons lasts?

[dusky canopy]

3 days

[shy frost]

;D

[dusky canopy]

It’s over already you missed it I think

[unkempt hazel]

but I was last on aoe and first on bosses

[shy frost]

[unkempt hazel]

balanced out

[toxic pewter]

prob will last till early next year

[lusty grotto]

anywhere from 4 to 6 months

[toxic pewter]

i have a feeling next season start in march

[shy frost]

aye! thanks

going on vacation for two weeks. considering bringing my gaming laptop or nor. lol.

[toxic pewter]

def not time for a break and have fun

[shy frost]

the fomo is real

[toxic pewter]

all the more reason to get away from the fomo

[ornate thicket]

Im going on vaca for 7days starting tomorrow but i got my vault slots done for the week. Then I have next sunday/monday after work to do it again lol

[shy frost]

thats my boy

[ornate thicket]

Its fucking real sad when you get to point in life that the vault makes your life decisions.

[waxen frigate]

My life is fucking real sad

[sweet summit]

that doesn't sound very healthy!!

[shy frost]

idd

its fun tho

[ornate thicket]

:addict

Ill be thinking about all the juice i COULD have while flying tomorrow and pushing down the realistic thoughts that it will be 9 cloaks

[shy frost]

gotta catch em all, cloakmaster

[sick sentinel]

guys i'm trying to make macro for shield block but it doesn't work

can someone help

[sweet summit]

show macro

[sick sentinel]

#showtooltip
/cast [rage>=30, no buff:Shield Block] Shield Block

[sweet summit]

that will never work

[graceful kite]

even if it did its a dumb idea

[waxen frigate]

I don’t think that you can do that

[graceful kite]

shield block stacks to 24 seconds

you don't want to have ANY downtime on shieldblock

[sick sentinel]

i'm using champion's bulwark

[sweet summit]

you want can live with downtime when you're not taking damage!!

[graceful kite]

you don't have shield block for 0.1 seconds in pull you fucked up never be in that position

[sick sentinel]

hmm i see

[graceful kite]

still don't want to be in that place

[sweet summit]

it's inevitable wcyd

[graceful kite]

im out of monster energy

literal hell

[sweet summit]

prime energy

[graceful kite]

dont have that one

[sweet summit]

good

[waxen frigate]

I’ve been drinking something new recently that the gas station near work got

[graceful kite]

I dont even have monster actually its just more relatable

[waxen frigate]

Grizzly Energy

It’s very good

Low carbonation, very tasty but 0 calories

[sweet summit]

i don't know if gas station energy drinks are legal

[graceful kite]

I'm fine with calories I basically dont eat

[lusty grotto]

did you quit canned fish

[sick sentinel]

wait u saying u can't reach 100% even with champion's bulwark + heavy repercussions

[waxen frigate]

It’s not gas station brand

[merry sluice]

be me
grim batol
beating the hunter's overall
hunter: pull more
5 seconds later: hunter dies

[sweet summit]

you CAN

[merry sluice]

i love keys

[waxen frigate]

I’ve just only seen it there

[raven knoll]

pls my fellow topgs tell me: i have good crafted shield. im crafting 1 hand weapon next. i dont put embelishment on weapon right. i put the second stat enmbelisment onto an armor slot i craft 3rd right? since i can only put it onto non weapons

[sweet summit]

ya that's right

[raven knoll]

thanks sir

[sweet summit]

that's what it mean!!!!!

[lusty grotto]

all the canned fishies sad

cause nish is ignoring them

feelsbadman

[waxen frigate]

Didn’t want to order any in Texas summer heat

Those mfs would get cooked

[lusty grotto]

fair

[raven knoll]

all the crafted weapons are same right. so i can decide if i pick sword mace or something

[graceful kite]

yes

[lusty grotto]

just pick whichever has the most crafters

[graceful kite]

I can craft you one if you're on ravencrest eu

[sweet summit]

just make sure it has strength

👍

[raven knoll]

holy shit i nearly picked some int shit

sadly im not on that but thanks sir @graceful kite

[lusty grotto]

runeaxe is int yes

you want slicer or facesmasher (for charged)

[tribal wharf]

you know that shit about when you attempt to equip cloth gear as a healer druid "wrong armor type idiot"

[fluid widget]

The answer is probably sim but is a 619->636 embellishment be bigger than 619->636 1h weapon?

[lusty grotto]

or everforged longsword/mace

[tribal wharf]

they need that for str agi int

and for crafting

[merry sluice]

i found a rando shammy try to join a 10 NW i was in last week

bro rolled up in mixed armor type...

[tribal wharf]

he didnt get the memo

[lusty grotto]

i would say no

[merry sluice]

idek how he got this far

[tribal wharf]

i guess you found the glitch in th system and got rid of it then

did you inform him about his wrong doings of equiping cloth belt?

or let him on his way without intervention

[graceful kite]

sim

[merry sluice]

yes. he ignored me so he got removed from the group by key holder

[unkempt hazel]

[merry sluice]

shammy's these past few weeks have confirmed my suspicions that subhuman entities have figured out how to log into wow

[graceful kite]

its funny that people are still trying to charge r3 mats+fee for those crafts

[waxen frigate]

We hate trade chat cartel rats

[fluid widget]

Cool I’ll have to check

[sharp gale]

There is no fees anymore on my server since + 1week

[waxen frigate]

Bro lives in a utopia

[sharp gale]

When I made my weapon I paid 500 golds as fees

Bc he said « free com »

[tribal wharf]

if you add only rank 3 parts to a craft it will add X points to the craft attempt

usually nothing huge, but it can push it to next rank, or next rank on a critical craft

not sure what the correct term is but that feels right

[graceful kite]

I posted a screenshot with mats and craft quality

[plush tendon]

just ask your guild for a stimulus package

[tribal wharf]

my professions are garbage this time around

[plush tendon]

every raider in my guild got 200k for crafts

[sharp gale]

Yes his screen tells he can do max r 5 with r2 mats

[plush tendon]

need that phat stimmy

[tribal wharf]

68 engi and like 55 smith

i dunno

[unkempt hazel]

25 alch

[lusty grotto]

with 640 concentration

[graceful kite]

and r1 missive

[lusty grotto]

thats 640 concentration out of 1000

and youll be stuck with 260 conentration for 3 days

well

not for 3 days, but you wont get back up to 1k until then

[sharp gale]

Yep so you use concentration for yourself and tell you need r3 mats for others

[lusty grotto]

right

but if its a tradechat crafter

[graceful kite]

I dislike cartels so I use concentration for everyone

[lusty grotto]

he doesnt wanna burn all his concentration on one craft

[tribal wharf]

61 smith 62 engi

its worse than i thought

[lusty grotto]

i dislike cartels too

[graceful kite]

I needed 1 craft for myself and making it with r2 mats while alloys costed 3500g was already more profitable

[lusty grotto]

but you also cannot bend backwards for a trade chat craft

[jagged pier]

aways been cartels in wow

[graceful kite]

and after that I just craft stuff for people

[jagged pier]

just be in a guild

and shkip them

[unkempt hazel]

I just public order and pray for the best

[jagged pier]

[sharp gale]

Be in a guild but 90% of the price is mats

[jagged pier]

brah we just put 420.69 as the comission in our guild

because we are adults

[unkempt hazel]

being monk is so nice

leather stuff is cheap as heck

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-17950420

[sharp gale]

I had crafters in my guild but still did with tradechat bc I want my craft RIGHT NOW at 4 am in the middle of the week

[violet ginkgo]

The part where we "die" after finishing Dawnbreaker M+ run is a bug right?

[sharp gale]

Yes

[violet ginkgo]

so basically we take durability penalty after finishing dawnbreaker nice blizzard

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

all part of the plan

[sharp gale]

It’s a sacrifice needed to thank blizzard for the key being easy

[limpid ruin]

Gotta get the gold of the economy some way

[lusty salmon]

I'm struggling with aggro with the standard rotation.. how do people get good snap aggro while grouping? throw seems to doom me

[tribal wharf]

back in dragon flight i had master hammer

for every slot

no repair

cost

[sharp gale]

Mass taunt when nameplates are red

[lusty grotto]

avatar into TB should be enough

strictly as snap agro

if colossus, avatar into revenge

[sharp gale]

If you take multiple packs just thunderclap/revenge each step before regroup

[molten gorge]

Can always send a revenge imo as well as Thane if there's a struggle

[lusty grotto]

but yes challenging/disrupting is there to be used

you should be using revenge in the opener as thane anyway

for deep wounds

its not a hard science, just explaining it seems strange to me

[raven knoll]

is the enchant for mainhand also to sim? since they top warriors take differnt ones.

[lusty grotto]

do damage, get threat, use aoe taunt if all else fails

[molten gorge]

Tbh half the time I just assume it's like, Tank has no CDs, bursty fury warrior has all his CDs: whyamidead.jpeg

[lusty salmon]

so like this is what happens for me, charge-> clap 1 group, shield charge 2nd group, leap uhh revenge 3rd and maybe throw a 4th. Then pallybro has wings and all my nameplates gone red T_T

[sharp gale]

You play with a fury : keep your mass taunt just for him

[molten gorge]

Ya ofc, I'm not saying I have this problem

But I understand how it happens

[lusty grotto]

shield slam more to get TB stacks

pally has wings... uhh

idk seems like a bad pally

are they just sending wake of ashes on one pack

cause otherwise how are they popping wings

wrong talents, wrong prio

bad pally

[sharp gale]

They don’t have random procs?

[lusty grotto]

wake of ashes gives you wings with proper talents

the procs come from holy power spenders

if they are popping wings, without pressing wake of ashes, they are doing some cooked up shitty build that didnt get past DF

[tribal wharf]

i have some big gripes with mass taunt, then again, its mass taunt, so i wont bitch and complain

fuck that

[lusty grotto]

unless they just send whatever holy power they had left from the last pack

which is whatever

[tribal wharf]

i usually call it big taunt, even though little taunt is really the big taunt, extra threat n such

[dusky canopy]

[muted arch]

how do you sim for best embelishment?

[tribal wharf]

im pretty sure big taunt doesnt add extra threat to all the targets you are on

just forces them to attack you

[potent tree]

Only times I’ve had any aggro issue was trying to group packs and an enhance just had back to back tempered hitting for 6mil or some shit

[tribal wharf]

and for not very long, shorter than taunt duration

[potent tree]

But all u need to do is aoe taunt and u are fine

[lusty salmon]

I mostly pug so it might be them just wanting to send it asap

[dusky canopy]

Could be a ilvl gap?

[potent tree]

Go to top gear add the item u want to compare click the + icon, add the embellishment u want. Repeat for everything u want to sim

[lusty salmon]

this too Im thinking

[muted arch]

thanks!

[raven knoll]

@lusty grotto is authority still best enchant for weapon? or is radiant better with mainstat and more defensive

[muted arch]

are there specific slots you guys would recommend crafting a slot on or just whatever is best ilvl upgrade?

[lusty grotto]

both are called authority

do you mean depths vs radiant? if so radiant is better for keys, depths for raid

[potent tree]

Depends on few things. Like, u do have a myth track shield or weapon? Do u expect to get one soon? Mostly u craft pieces with low stat budget and or weapon and shield depending on your situation

I ended up using a spark on a ring because I didn’t even have a heroic track ring because this game hates me

[muted arch]

have 639 shield alrdy, not weapon yet tho

was also thinking of doing ring cuz its the only piece that isnt at least heroic track lol

[lusty grotto]

if youre killing myth sikran it might not be worth

[muted arch]

yeah thats what i was thinking

only a question of DPS getting higher prio on it

[lusty grotto]

but still, if your guild is prio'ring FDKs as they should

[sick sentinel]

whats swing timer ?

[lusty grotto]

the time it takes for you to auto attack

[muted arch]

maybe ill get lucky with vault

[sick sentinel]

ah i see thanks 🙂

[lusty grotto]

"maybe ill get lucky" seems to me like it would be a good crafting slot

[potent tree]

That’s why it’s hard to say what u should craft without knowing your situation. Weapon is the biggest dps upgrade slot u can get but not necessarily is the best option to craft if u have access to myth track weapon

[potent tree]

This tbh

[lusty grotto]

fdks should have prio on sikran because nobody will realistically farm myth queen for their BiS

so depending on how many FDKs your guild has

and if youre consistently killing sikran

in 2-3 weeks you will have enough gilded to make up for what you lost on the craft

betting on RNG is not optimal

[shrewd plinth]

What’s the logic behind the bis for prot warr? I know for dps you kind of just find the highest damage sims. Is the prot warr bis just considering damage, and the ilvls/skill is how you actually live?

[lusty grotto]

whatever sims highest is usually the best defensive gain outside of shields / some trinkets

[tribal wharf]

yes, because in short

[lusty grotto]

because stats provide both

[tribal wharf]

if you do the maximum dmg

you are doing ~ the maximum survival as well

less thinkies, more zug zug

[shrewd plinth]

💪⚔️💪

[tropic linden]

Basically this, u need more rage to do more dmg, with more rage u have more shields, more avatar procs (more dmg), more indom heal. With more SB uptime, more dmg from SS

It's all connected

[shrewd plinth]

Was curious why we weren’t just full verse haste but i see crit and mastery have different effects for prot/fury

[lusty grotto]

were not bears

[muted arch]

i dont raid again until next tuesday, so betting on RNG is optimal in this case haha

[lusty grotto]

nah its not

[muted arch]

if i don't get weapon from vault, i make weapon

ofc it is

[lusty grotto]

its your sub, but its not

[muted arch]

so if it's tuesday morning and u havent opened up vault yet

do u craft a piece first or open vault first?

its just simple logic

[lusty grotto]

its not tuesday morning

its friday

[muted arch]

yeah i dont raid til tuesday

like i said

lol

[lusty grotto]

not optimal

but you can do what you want

[muted arch]

explain yourself

[lusty grotto]

im racing the brewfest ram

maybe in a bit

i also dont react well to orders

[unkempt hazel]

hey nim

[lusty grotto]

[unkempt hazel]

[cobalt grove]

i see some top prot warriors started to use collosus hero spec, when should we use it hero spec?

[lusty grotto]

whenever you want

[unkempt hazel]

are you among top prot warriors

[lusty grotto]

ive been doing it on 9s and 10s

[unkempt hazel]

[cobalt grove]

didnt ask if i was

[faint maple]

To have more st?

[lusty grotto]

no

[tulip remnant]

To feel something

[lusty grotto]

the colossus M+ doesnt have that much ST

its just to have fun and do something different

youre not playing execute build in keys

[plush tendon]

if you dont intend to do anything else this week, wait for Tuesday reset

[faint maple]

Oh okay😅
Coz I’m mainly dpsing on war and now switching to tanking. Earlier played only on dh tank:)

So now everything is new for me😂

[muted arch]

just some more 10's for vault but my weapon isnt gunna be the decider on those lol

[lusty grotto]

play thane then

[raven knoll]

thats what i ment. ill get radiant. thanks sir

[plush tendon]

yea, just wait

[lusty grotto]

its better to get used to prot war

[plush tendon]

no point in sending the craft

if the power aint needed now

[lusty grotto]

why not augusto

we get a full spark on tuesday

so hes just sitting on sparks

[plush tendon]

yea, but to craft is a gilded crest loss

[muted arch]

^

[lusty grotto]

still banking on a vault

4 days away

hmm

sorry

[plush tendon]

he doesnt need the power now

[lusty grotto]

i just dont see it, but they can do whatever they want

[plush tendon]

toon is basically gonna do some 10s, fill out the vault and sit till Tuesday

[lusty grotto]

i would insta send it if i didnt have to fucking save it for charged hammer because i got assigned to fury jail

[plush tendon]

little to no point to send for immediate power gain

at least thats my thought process

and, if no wep in vault, he can send a wep craft on Tuesday

and be ready for raid

[lusty grotto]

i guess, if they only do vault keys

which sounds like that's whats going on

[plush tendon]

yea; if homie was gonna push score, do mythic raid prog I would say craft

[lusty grotto]

but to me, it would be way better since im litearlly running keys 90% of the time in WoW

[plush tendon]

but he aint

[lusty grotto]

outside of raid nights

[faint maple]

Already in +9s, want to have more confidence to go +10s😅

[muted arch]

yeah if i needed the boost now ofc i would send it

point is if theres no immediate benefit it's better to wait a couple days and see

to be optimal for raid

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[plush tendon]

I agree with the thought process

heck, Im doing the same thing on my warrior XD

since I got two mythic kill on him this week

bosses 3 and 4

if no Sikran wep in vault, we craft a wep on Tues

[lusty grotto]

and then sit on another spark

[plush tendon]

but Im also a 2 myth boss, 4 10s kind of gamer

[lusty grotto]

taking a hole on your bags

while worrying about gilded

[plush tendon]

its not the spark.... its the gilded crests

[lusty grotto]

when you should be worried about mats instead

[plush tendon]

I dont full time on my warrior

[lusty grotto]

in 3 weeks you will have so many fucking gilded

[plush tendon]

and I just dont have the time on Weekends anymore to do that many keys

[lusty grotto]

its just hoarder mentality

[muted arch]

yeah but then u gotta wait 3 weeks to upgrade mythic gear lmao

it's only horder if you have the crests in surplus

[lusty grotto]

which you will

[plush tendon]

idk, my mentality has gotten me pretty geared

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[muted arch]

i don't

[plush tendon]

already 627 on my DK

[wide charm]

What are we arguing about? Waiting until tuesday to use your 90 gilded?

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

thats not a warrior

[plush tendon]

my warrior is a baby

hes 617 😦

[muted arch]

i've used all crests, and have enough to either upgrade a piece from vault or craft a piece

[plush tendon]

which is perfect for doing a handful of 10s

[lusty grotto]

then thats what stopping you

youve used all crests

thats all you had to say

[wide charm]

if you have no intent to push keys and you are done raiding this week --- no reason to not wait for vault? No?

[faint maple]

It’s my ilvl on prot, and you saying baby🫠

[lusty grotto]

its literally impossible to get an enchanted gilded if thats the case

[muted arch]

yeah thats what im saying

[plush tendon]

Baby Bjorn is adorbs

[muted arch]

bruh

[final radish]

any one have any good weak aura for spell reflect for this season with voice?

[muted arch]

you need to read lol

i have crests to craft something

or i could use those crests to upgrade a piece from vault

[lusty grotto]

youre pretty annoying

[muted arch]

me? listen to yourself

[lusty grotto]

augusto agrees with you

[muted arch]

defending a wrong opinion to the grave

[lusty grotto]

topic over

[muted arch]

there isn't a soul here who agrees with your lack of logic kek

[lusty grotto]

there arent wrong opinions

you raid log and do 8 vault keys

you do what you think is best

i dont do 8 vault keys, so the value is massive for me

easy

topic over

[plush tendon]

8 vault keys is a lot

[wide charm]

For his circumstances, waiting for vault is optimal no?
Different playstyles call for different things --- I'd be crafting something immediately if I was still pushing this week

[plush tendon]

I gotta go be social this weekend.... again

[lusty grotto]

thats the point Lei

[plush tendon]

honestly, kind of bullshit if you ask me

[muted arch]

yeah that's the point

[muted arch]

welcome to the party

lol

[wide charm]

So you both agree and both have different playstyles

just say that

[muted arch]

been saying it

[lusty grotto]

#protection message no, welcome yourself

[wide charm]

I mean feels like you were calling his opinion wrong but his opinion was not for your playstyle

you guys are missing each other pretty hard xD

[lusty grotto]

i said its not optimal

i didnt say it was wrong, just to be clear

in contrast

[wooden widget]

Do all you people have bdk alts

[lusty grotto]

i do

[muted arch]

the first thing i stated in this entire convo is that i don't need the upgrade til raid on tuesday..

[wooden widget]

I’m kinda pissed blizzard is leaving brood as is

[wide charm]

Not optimal for your playstyle, aka if you are continuing to push content -- yes that would be correct.
It is optimal for his playstyle --- which is "I'm done for the week, not pushing keys, no more raid this week"

[limpid ruin]

If you took my advice and turned to a life of crime you wouldn’t have these issues

[tribal wharf]

turns out you can still use DF repair hammer LOL

[lusty grotto]

i dont see the point in this dissection, topic is over

lets move on

[limpid ruin]

Letting the raid down imo

[dusky canopy]

[tribal wharf]

already have it fully macroed and everything

free repair go!!!

[wooden widget]

Guess I’m leveling a bdk so this never happens s again.

[dusky canopy]

BDK is harder

[plush tendon]

you should get gearing tips from @limpid ruin

[dusky canopy]

Goodluck!

[plush tendon]

hes really good at gearing new toons

[wooden widget]

Tyty

[limpid ruin]

I like my blue bracers. I feel like you are just jealous at this point

[plush tendon]

crime is skip culture

[dusky canopy]

I’m going to continue to be my raid teams only warrior 😈

[plush tendon]

as a BDK main.... its really annoying ngl

[limpid ruin]

Tbh I ran a grim batol with a aug that didn’t have talents and the motivation left my body

[plush tendon]

how the heck am I supposed to weesle my rat alts in

[plush tendon]

Talents are overrated

Elitist

[limpid ruin]

I still don’t know why he didn’t run out at the start….

[tribal wharf]

i still think its a crime that quake 1 remaster had a better dragon flight than all of dragon flight

i dont know how you screw up making a dragon exciting..... but they did it....

[lusty grotto]

i guess you didnt do raszageth or fyralath

[tribal wharf]

its big angry claw and scale and fangs, breaths fire and hordes gold, smart, strong, some times fast

[lusty grotto]

[tribal wharf]

deathwing was super elite dragon, but i was hoping for deathwing basically

[lusty grotto]

have you heard? classic cata is a thing!

for that nostalgia fueled goodness!

[tribal wharf]

ya well

i i ................... god damnit.............

i did it already

on lfr many years ago......

i dont want to kill him as he was all those years ago

[fluid widget]

What’s wrong with brood?

[plush tendon]

Mythic Brood requires 2 Blood DKs

or 1 BDK and 1 VDH (scuffed)

or 1 BDK, 1 VDH, third tank

[tribal wharf]

okay and i get what your saying about probably does no melee basically, bunch o spells n stuff, but why not monk or bear?

[fluid widget]

Wouldn’t fdk also be able to group them up and then tank picks up aggro?

[tribal wharf]

i would think monk, monk seems to be a good dmg spong raid tank im told

[plush tendon]

you need Gorfiends

Abom doesnt work

cause you need to grip all of the small adds instant

[shut summit]

yep, it's terrible comp requirements

[plush tendon]

should just give DPS DK gorfiends as a option

instead of blood only

[shut summit]

shoulda been done awhile ago

[fluid widget]

Sense I see you on wcl with a bdk buddy

How rough was it?

[shut summit]

We always make not having a bdk work, anduin, fyrakk etc but this fight just isn't feasible unless you wanna take forever

[plush tendon]

if grips are the raid buff... then every DK should have gorfiends and reduced CD grip

then with those -2 spec points in the class tree, maybe they give BDK some stuff good for M+

[merry sluice]

IMAGINE A WORLD

WHERE BDK COULD HAVE BLOODSHOT AND UE

[arctic quartz]

im really confused about my vault sim tbh

[merry sluice]

MAYBE MAKE RUNETAP NOT SUCK WHILE WE'RE AT IT

LETS GOO

[arctic quartz]

my wep upgrade is 13ilvl but a random trinket sims higer

[tribal wharf]

is this the master hammer?

i dont see an item recipe for this so iassume its from this

[lusty grotto]

link the sim

[arctic quartz]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jTcepFnvw8wpVbY1y79jGR

[lusty grotto]

its 100 bs skill

[wooden widget]

The only comps to kill it so far have used 2x bdk. I didn’t gear my bdk this season so I’m cooked

[tribal wharf]

25?

cuz its not listed in the smithing book and its source isnt listed on wowhead

[lusty grotto]

again

its 100 bs skill

[tribal wharf]

cuz i can have someone create it form e

[arctic quartz]

its leveling blacksmithing to 100

[lusty grotto]

ive said it twice

and he still doesnt read

[tribal wharf]

cuz if using the DF master hammer is a bug/glitch i could in theory be banned for that

[lusty grotto]

typical yogi

[arctic quartz]

dunno man i find it weird how level = skill

[tribal wharf]

i hear you, i can have it work ordered

and then use it since im above 25 khaz bs

[lusty grotto]

theres no source on wowhead, because if it doesnt drop from mobs and is auto learned (like this one is), wowhead has no way of adding a "source" in its database

wowhead requires their client to report if it literally drops from mobs as a source, and/of learned from recipes

[tribal wharf]

okay, so what does it mean by "artisan" repair hammer

because i already have a repair hammer recipe

[lusty grotto]

thats the equipment

blacksmith gear

not the repair hammer

[tribal wharf]

oh right okay, is there a purple smith hammer again

[tribal wharf]

ya thats why though

its a glitch, and i could save my self in theory, hundreds of thousands of gold on repairs

[lusty grotto]

this is what youre looking for

and again, for the 5th time

[tribal wharf]

which i heard on first one

[lusty grotto]

you learn it by having 100 skill

[tribal wharf]

yes

but i can have it work ordered to me

[lusty grotto]

i guess

[round cliff]

does anyone have a solution for pug wrangling
i want like, dialogue trees that i can explain basic mechanics with before a boss

can opie be used to open another opie window

[tribal wharf]

if i had another smith, i could work order it and get the knowledge for it and keep hammer cake and eat it

[lusty grotto]

i dont know why you would yogi

you can only repair items you're fully specialized in

[tribal wharf]

for DF is everything

[tribal wharf]

that hammer works on TWW gear

[lusty grotto]

youre looking for this one then

now that you mention it

seems pretty cheap to make

[fluid widget]

What level do you learn how to make hammers?

[lusty grotto]

which

[fluid widget]

The repair ones (I’m kidding pls don’t mute me)

[lusty grotto]

good question

[strong forum]

Nim can't mute

But I can

[lusty grotto]

i can mute

in RL

(:

[tribal wharf]

well, im saying, if you have all knowledge applied in DF smithing, and you use the blue master repair hammer from DF, it repairs tww plate gear

[lusty grotto]

yes, but coreforged also does that

except for crafted items

[tribal wharf]

coreforged is consumed on used right

[lusty grotto]

i think so

[tribal wharf]

well, this hammer i am speaking of, NEVER gets consumed

[lusty grotto]

either way, that seems like a bug

because you should be specialized in stuff

[tribal wharf]

ya, and then i just macro it to target all of my armor pieces from tww

left over macro i made in DF, struggled with that macro

all it has to be is flag all gear from TWW as unable to be hit with df hammer

[lusty grotto]

yes, use it while you can

exploit early and often

[tribal wharf]

i think i will report it to blizzard

[violet ginkgo]

multicraft stat bis?

[lusty grotto]

there's no bis

its whatever you need

and what youre specced into, and which profession it is

[arctic quartz]

did anybody figure out why my sim was weird

[lusty grotto]

oh

i forgot about it

[arctic quartz]

thats okay

[lusty grotto]

well

ritual knife's effect is a load of primary stat

so you gotta see it that way

3319 Str = 3319 AP vs the AP difference between weapons

what other options do you have in vault

that trinket you can probably get with a map

weapon can be farmable if youre spamming 7s

so dont look at it from a vault sim point

or strictly by it

[violet ginkgo]

well since you display blacksmithing so I was asking for blacksmithing.

[lusty grotto]

it depends on what youre spec'ed into

and what your goals are

doing loads of crafts? ingenuity

resourcefulness as well

doing loads of alloys? multicraft

i meant to say gear crafts

[violet ginkgo]

Hmmm... if now material use for crafting weigh a lot, will crafting alloys more beneficial in long run?

[lusty grotto]

not in the long run

but for now its decent

if youre a tradechat crafter its probably better to do ingenuity + resourcefulness

[cosmic canyon]

which kind of 'play' is this talent "trying" to go at? when would it ever be useful

[violet ginkgo]

yes of course, raid build use it.

for M+ we don't use it because we use the poin to take some utilities.

[arctic quartz]

i didnt really have anything relevent

[dusky canopy]

This helps you lose less rage when you’re being flooded with rage and can’t spend it fast enough

[arctic quartz]

had 4 options

[lusty grotto]

well i would say either option is fine

but i would lean to weapon, even if the sim says trinket

[valid sleet]

Hello friends. Wowhead guide gear section rates the Ovi'nax trinket B tier - do the buffs to it change that significantly?

[green forge]

is demolish just broken? it says it grants immunity to forced movement effects while channeling but I've either got a misunderstanding of what constitutes a forced movement effect or it straight up doesn't work in most situations. I've been knocked and pulled while channeling constantly.

[lusty grotto]

yeah its

not consistent

it def works on stuff, but not on others

[green forge]

I would not recommend attempting it on anything in the raid at this point, I've tried to use it to make some good plays and it constantly blows up in my face lol

[lusty grotto]

seems like boss knocks and/or sucks arent affected

but trash knocks/sucks are

[green forge]

even a mob in a delve just picked me up and interrupted the channel before it was finished

[lusty grotto]

do you mean the kobold that picks you up?

[green forge]

yeah

last "boss" of the ambush

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt put that in the same page as knockbacks or pulls

[plush tendon]

that just sounds like worst Death Advance

[green forge]

stun though

[plush tendon]

[green forge]

I don't know what it's coded as but since I can't take action I'd call it a stun

[lusty grotto]

again the only consistency ive found is that it works with trash mob abilities, but not bosses

you can attack him while youre grabbed

so its not a stun

[green forge]

hmm seemed like my abilities weren't going off I'll have to check it next time

anyway thanks for the insight

[cosmic canyon]

you're never flooded with rage though?

and execute caps out at 40 rage

[lusty grotto]

did you correct your SB mistake

on Queen?

i didnt catch a reply to the death log review

so just curious

[mighty valley]

most logs in here overcap some rage, rage gen is spiky and tougher for new players

it's just a QOL talent, honestly wouldn't mind it, there's just no points to spare

[arctic quartz]

i do pretty minimal amount of gearing on this char atm, do 4 delves now then like 4 dungeons then i log off for the week

so getting that trinket from a delve map aint happening unless im realllly lucky

[lusty grotto]

do weapon

[arctic quartz]

ight weapon it is

[lusty grotto]

it will help out more in the long run

[arctic quartz]

what do prot wars craft with sparks btw

[lusty grotto]

whatever needs ilvl

but shield is a good pick

[arctic quartz]

beledars bulwark?

[smoky anvil]

Everforged defender

[arctic quartz]

with an embelishment i assume? ascendance like everybody else?

[lusty grotto]

no

we use linings

[arctic quartz]

ok sounds cool

just hit 600ilvl, now gonna go eat dinner then craft a shield and then hit the dungeon finder

[narrow hull]

I might have to craft frickin boots soon =/

they just wont drop

[fluid widget]

Someone said that I can have a shield slam/shield block macro and a shield slam/ignore pain macro. As long as they’re 2 different macros (and not doing the execute build) is there anything inherently bad about using it? Have shield block key bound too

[lusty grotto]

do you understand what they are used for

i.e. they are not used to Shield Slam

[dusky canopy]

You can put SS into other off GCD binds to snipe resets but in order to play optimally you still need an individual shield slam bind that you press only to shield slam

[shrewd plinth]

More for the dps specs i think? Fury only has one spender rampage and that costs 80 so it’s really easy to overcap? Prot’s spenders are much smaller and varied so overcap isn’t the same issue

[lusty grotto]

eh

its not that prot's spenders are "smaller" its that THE spender is off gcd

so its more frequent

[violet ginkgo]

not dps spec, it's just nice to have extra capacity.

[lusty grotto]

they can def play without it

but its QoL

[molten gorge]

random thought entered my brain, thinking about the people having threat issues

I feel like I saw someone say the other day that Thunderous Roar is more threat than Spear? (no clue why that would be the case)

[lusty grotto]

its up more frequently

[molten gorge]

could be a good pick if that's the case, especially when it's a shorter CD so can use it most packs

Ya fair

[lusty grotto]

so its decent for snap agro

[molten gorge]

makes a lot of sense

[chilly brook]

I mean some DPS you're just gonna have issues

But it's not gonna be the norm

[shrewd plinth]

T roar does more damage too doesn’t it? Just over a longer window

[chilly brook]

Not everyone gets a DH chad who's doing 9m on the first pull of the dungeon

[lusty grotto]

not quite

spear is uncapped

[shrewd plinth]

Ah tru

[lusty grotto]

also contributes to way more burst

at least as thane

[molten gorge]

what's the cap on TR?

[lusty grotto]

SL cap at 8 targets

soon to be 5 targets

in the next patch

[molten gorge]

jesus, 5 is brutal

what a stupid change

[lusty grotto]

its an SL cap, so reduced damage, not an absolute cap

[molten gorge]

ig but doesn't help when your dk is doing uncapped blasting dmg

[lusty grotto]

but obviously that hits threat hard

[molten gorge]

Ya

[lusty grotto]

i dont know why blizzard likes to SL cap tanks, tanks shouldn't have capped shit just for threat reasons

and then you have tanks that are uncapped completely

like Sigil of Flame

or immolation aura

or consecration

[molten gorge]

Ya feels very silly

[tribal wharf]

SL??

shadow land

[lusty grotto]

or death and decay

[tribal wharf]

bearsectration?

[acoustic dew]

hahaha took my warr from 600ilvl this morning to 619

crazy

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-surprised-metal-geaar-rising-revengeance-gif-17637551

im not sure thats right but i think i might be thinking of the definition wrong

[acoustic dew]

is there any good post, that sums up warr tips for raid

[fair topaz]

common spear W

[acoustic dew]

I'm 8/8 on my main, so just spell reflect and general talent stuff would be cool

if theres such a thing

[chilly brook]

It's not because we're tanks it's just simply because warrior dps are cracked