protection

[teal laurel]

Never thought about pugging mythic tbh lol - I'll consider that for sure if we fall short again

[shy frost]

is there like an addon that can warn you if you get clapped in the back? so that you can learn from those situations.

[jagged pier]

Not that im aware

Of

But kinda obvious mobs are behind u no?

[sweet summit]

not a thing

[teal laurel]

You mean getting whacked from outside shield block range?

[shy frost]

Dang

[sweet summit]

you kinda have to look at your character

[sharp gale]

I left my guild and searching a new so I pugged the first boss yesterday , 5% first try half dead by the beam/dash whatever you call it

[shy frost]

its more like when you reposition the packs or chain them

[round cliff]

walk sideways

back safe

[sweet summit]

i just pop wall and ball

[teal laurel]

You wiped at 95%?

[shy frost]

but will strafing always block them? like it feels like your back is turned.

but it might just be me

[sharp gale]

At 5%

[sweet summit]

in front is like

180°

[teal laurel]

There's a built in addon that tells you if you were getting nibbled in the ass. It's a got a big grayscale filter and there's ghostly noises in the background promptly after you make this mistake

[sweet summit]

so you have a lot of wiggle room

[round cliff]

isnt it closer to like 240

[sweet summit]

might be

[shy frost]

Got the name of it?

[round cliff]

180 would be 0 wiggle room

[teal laurel]

Its a joke it means death xD

[round cliff]

you'd get hit in the back constantly if that was the case

[shy frost]

LOL

[shy frost]

ty bro

[teal laurel]

Honestly tho if you just sideshuffle you'll rarely take it from behind

(phrasing)

[sweet summit]

idk only advice i have is look at your screen

[buoyant ermine]

So i have a question and i know what the "correct" Answer is , but i am super casual baby prot warrior who doesnt raid and right now am in low level m+s Due to what gear i have availble i plan on crafting a weapon, with the free heroic crest granted by the story - Since crafting - espeically crafting that level of gear is expensive (for me at least ) it's unlikely ill be crafting a ton of gear - or at least quickly - therefor i was going to embellish the weapon - however the guides i look at show embelishments for armor or Have elemental focusing lense - given the content i do is less about ST, i have to ask is there a better option for a weapon given the situation?

[shy frost]

at least it is a choice then.

[nova stratus]

whats the go with zekvir ??, is prot easier to do it on, or dps spec better??

[teal laurel]

The problem with prot is you cant typically kill those stupid eggs especially in phase2

[nova stratus]

yeah the eggs are what im having the most trouble with.. but then in fury, he just randomly will bop me out of no where 🥲

[teal laurel]

? is easy but ?? slaps me around like my landlord is 6'7" and I'm 3 months late on rent

[nova stratus]

very very very accurate

[round cliff]

was gonna ask if using keys is worth it for the chance to get maps for hero gear but ig i have to do bountiful delves for progress towards season completion anyways

fomo rewards

[teal laurel]

You get that sweet sweet 3k delve track quest too

[pallid quiver]

except for when z-axis shenanigans happen and, because a mob stepped on a pebble, it just one shots you and hits you from behind

That happened to Nome once in RLP iirc

[round cliff]

z axis real???

wtf

[teal laurel]

sooooon

[round cliff]

think my brann is like

30 smth

ive done almost no delves xd

outside of initial champ gearing

[teal laurel]

I just have this nonsense reason for wanting to max delve track and it basically surmounts to "I just wanna"

[round cliff]

u get a title or smth dont u

oh damn u only need to get to rank 5 to unlock all the dirigible rewards

wtf

[barren basalt]

Is there a rescource for good intervenes in current dungeon pool?

[jagged pier]

Literally any castable spell

[teal laurel]

The undercoin is the real problem tbh

[jagged pier]

The most notable on the frontal on first boss of NW

[twin flicker]

hello friendos, is there any prot warrior progressing kyveza atm and has a defensive rotation for the tank hits? or does anyone know if theres a way to filter what def did how much mitigation of a certain spell on logs?

[round cliff]

does frontal track?

thought u just avoid it

[teal laurel]

Mythic or Heroic?

[twin flicker]

mythic

[teal laurel]

Over my paygrade

[barren basalt]

alright but there are some boss mechanics you can cheat, like first boss NW, i mean more these

[teal laurel]

wouldn't first boss on NW just murder you why is the dps even located at the beam destination xD

Oh nevermind I'm glassbrain and forgot about the poison nonsense boss. Was thinking dragon

[round cliff]

so is there a warrior spec that IS good for soloing ?? zekvir

arms and fury just die to autos dont they

[graceful kite]

prot?

[teal laurel]

I sincerely think it's just a gear issue now that Brann got nerfed into a trashcan

[round cliff]

tru

[graceful kite]

people are doing zekvir as prot

I haven't tried cuz don't see a reason to do delves

[teal laurel]

@617 he still murders me no lube tho

[round cliff]

cosmetics more important than gear

[nocturne vine]

Guys quick question

Do you think is worth going colossus for raid encounters?

I have heard differents povs on that

Some says it brings much more dmg

[twin flicker]

if it doesnt have adds u need to pickup and dont need the extra rage regen, colossus is king on dmg

[tender reef]

I got 2 weeklys saying go do delves

[nocturne vine]

Im tanking with a dh and lets say he is very good at picking up adds

[tender reef]

Adds got nerfed in zelkvir

[nocturne vine]

Answering this

[tender reef]

Also no dh allowed here

[teal laurel]

phase 2 adds still cancerous

[graceful kite]

to get 590 piece of gear

[tender reef]

But like half the HP from before

[teal laurel]

It's still too much for probably 99% of people

[tender reef]

It's achievement run not gearing

[tender reef]

That's the point

[graceful kite]

You literally wrote about weeklies

[tender reef]

Caches have chance for a lot of things not just 590 gear

[twin flicker]

i do it on every boss we do right now and i think its pretty decent, however i play mountain theme on rashanan to have extra rage regen+better pickup aggro on adds as they do hurt alot on dps if not picked up/ chainstunned

[graceful kite]

no?

[tender reef]

Key, gold, renown ?

[twin flicker]

can be abit yikers to pickup spiders on ansurek in the p2 without much aoe as u wanna hold it primarly

[graceful kite]

this weekly literally gives a piece of nm gear, it's not a pinnacle cache

[teal laurel]

I just mwu shield and mwd pain and its suddenly brainless uptime xD

[tender reef]

Weekly cache containing materials for upgrading gear, gold, and more.

Only first 2 have a veteran gear

And it's for people who don't do raid m+

Th spider cache also has recipe

And the sun cache has them too

[nocturne vine]

Can u share me talents and can i ask you a couple of things?

[teal laurel]

If I have to do 1 more ara kara for this sac I'm gonna need therapy

[twin flicker]

i guess so

[zealous goblet]

just get in from vault

it*

[teal laurel]

glares at his vault rng

[nocturne vine]

Does stat value changes with colossus? Any good guide you recommend to maximize rotation?

[teal laurel]

I just realized liquify is 90% magic dmg

[zealous goblet]

my friend got a myth track one week 2 with leech on it

no meme

[teal laurel]

Bruh my fuckin DH co-tank got that same thing and I'm so jealous

It makes me even more mad because he doesn't even want to be tanking LOL

ew they capped Brann at 49

[fresh merlin]

Which is better for beginners double shield wall or impenetrable?

[teal laurel]

Impenetrable is pretty sick regardless

It makes Shield Wall have a cooldown of like 40-60s

[fresh merlin]

oh shit ok

[tough patio]

I miss the days where shield wall would apply to the entire party

[teal laurel]

As long as you're spamming obviously

[empty path]

I miss times when SW was 30min CD 😄

[tough patio]

[zealous goblet]

the only reason to take x2 shield wall is when you need two shield walls in short spans. like in high keys

like HIGH keys

i'm not gonna gatekeep you and say i'm in high keys. just to provide a frame of reference, i'm doing 9-10s rn and still havent come across noticeable damage unless i'm misplaying

i don't even know what moves would warrant a double shield wall. you'd have to ask nome or some shit

[teal laurel]

When your DK grabbyhands your stungrub on ara final boss 😂

[strong forum]

Has only existed once and that was mythic broodkeeper

[twin flicker]

crit gets more value, more crit on shieldslam = more stacks for demolish = it will have lower cd, i wanna use any on use trinket with the dmg amp of demolish+demo shout, basicly the wowhead guide is pretty decent

[crimson furnace]

guys, how do we manage our socket colors given the inuq gem that we have

that gives stuff based on the diversity

of gem colors

whats the plan there for us as prots?

[zealous goblet]

oh btw question about your guide. i was rereading it. underneath the tab for bis mythic+ gear you have sacbrood and meathook slotted in. the tier list would suggest mark of khar is better. am i misreading or reading too much into it?

better than meathook*

[strong forum]

That tab needs updating

[zealous goblet]

i've defeated the guide writer by spotting one mistake

i win class discord

(mme

[tardy fern]

how big is the gap between 5s and 7s? I stomped my +5 CoT (9 mins left with a disconnect on the last boss) and I'm scared that I'll get destroyed on the +7 NW

[zealous goblet]

(m*me)

[zealous goblet]

it's honestly not too big.

[blazing condor]

not big

[jagged pier]

Not big

[zealous goblet]

the extra time loss from deaths just heavily discourages spam dying to try and salvage a run

like if you wipe on the 4th pack on stonevault please dont spam release

synchronize your deaths

[tardy fern]

should be timeable at 612 ilvl?

[zealous goblet]

probably?

i'm unsure

[wicked pollen]

people are doing 10s at <= 600

[jagged pier]

Was doing 10s at 612 so yes

[wicked pollen]

jakey did you see my improvement of sb uptime

let me find a log

[jagged pier]

I heard

Proud of u

[wicked pollen]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fMDdZg12k9J37bWP#fight=8&type=damage-taken&source=5

i still think im getting hit from behind

but oh well

[jagged pier]

Goodjob man

[zealous goblet]

how do i rally my friends to not let the suicidal thoughts win when im trying to do keys with them

give me your best lines to get the troops morale up

[wicked pollen]

i dont type

or talk

i just keep pulling

[jagged pier]

I actively tell ppl not to do keys with me

Because i dont want to do keys

[wicked pollen]

🙂

everytime i log on

i get 3-5 people asking me to do keys

because they are traumatized from lfg tanks

[jagged pier]

Yer nah shkip stay hidden on bnet thanks

[blazing condor]

just say "bro its just a game why you so mad lol"

when you fuck up

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-black-kid-gif-4937950

[wicked pollen]

till they message you because you are in guild

zz

[blazing condor]

nothing rallies the troops more than a common enemy

[jagged pier]

When u boosting me

[zealous goblet]

you're going to get me executed irl

like

im gonna make those isis liveleak videos look tame

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/spartans-gif-16450678908885633845

[zealous goblet]

im 100% sure nothing pisses people off more than

"its just a game"

[wicked pollen]

if it does it means they are already too far gone

[jagged pier]

Im dps now need a tank i can abuse to tank keys for me

[blazing condor]

yes jakey

first i need to buy the xpac

[zealous goblet]

i have 2.5k io am i hot enough for you yet

[wicked pollen]

me when i get asked to tank

[zealous goblet]

please

[jagged pier]

[violet ginkgo]

wait till discount/sale then

[jagged pier]

High io than me

[zealous goblet]

wrong

you're a mod

you need to spit on me

"my alt is 3k"

say it with men ow

me now*

[jagged pier]

Lul u wont get that from me i hate keys

[zealous goblet]

"kill yourself!"

[jagged pier]

Weeklys only

But here u go for fun

[zealous goblet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/193278651020738561/835698784512114698/ezgif.com-gif-maker3.gif

[jagged pier]

[blazing condor]

bad day to have eyes

[wicked pollen]

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-cat-level-infinity-gif-15287917168381984815

[violet ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-kiss-forehead-kiss-fishes-tiktok-gif-4788167688444183421

[jagged pier]

[zealous goblet]

yoink

thats a good one

fish is even shaped like a penis head

https://tenor.com/view/lorandez-gif-18375086

[wicked pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[blazing condor]

how i be looking at the auctioneer when it tells me a weapon enchant is 50k

[zealous goblet]

ok memes aside lads

i picked up inscription, big mistake, gonna drop it

[sweet summit]

mods ban this thing

[zealous goblet]

what selfish things can i do with a profession? engineering used to be the go to, right? make repair hammers, portable mailbox

and then you can get like, extended flasks with alchemy?

[blazing condor]

archaeology is fun

[zealous goblet]

i just want something selfish

not money making

just qol shit pretty much

is it just those two?

[true bridge]

Where do you guys go for class guides nowadays? I used wowhead for the longest time but i heard maxroll has guides from echo. The thing is that they are so different from the wowhead guides

[blazing condor]

wowhead / icyveins

written by degen pwarrs who know what theyre talking about

[true bridge]

Yea I get that but meeres qrites some guides for maxroll, MEERES. He is a god

Just wish they all said the same xD

[wicked pollen]

or just read what you want

https://tenor.com/bS7DG.gif

[zealous goblet]

what selfish things can i do with that?

the only thing im aware of is like, transmog and mounts?

[blazing condor]

the selfish thing is you have fun 🙂

[wicked pollen]

[zealous goblet]

wrong

[trim wind]

What's a Tank m+ addon you can't live without? Seems I'm just using Keystoneguru on the other monitor and trying to learn routes and percentage numbers for different packs by memory haha

[blazing condor]

MDT for routes

then ive always used ThreatPlates as my nameplates so i guess that

OmniCD for tracking CDs/interrupts

DBM/BigWigs as well i guess

As well as weak auras

elvui while we're at it

[wicked pollen]

the more i use elvui

the more i hate it

[trim wind]

BigWigs, WAs ets I have whatever I play. MDT though, which I have installed, I have never used. Is it anything I miss from it tbh? I mean, I'm using Keystoneguru right next to me anyway (browser)

[blazing condor]

dudes be like "elvui sucks" - my brother you made the UI

[wicked pollen]

no, i just think its unoptimized

[blazing condor]

guess its just preference i never really used guru. i like MDT cus i can manually look stuff up in the key more easily

say an extra pack was pulled or we missing count or whatever

[red otter]

Elvui is horrible

[wicked pollen]

elvui performance is elvui looks

[vale karma]

is the maxroll guide any good? for prot

[red otter]

it looks bad too though

[blazing condor]

ppl come out of the shadows just to hate

luckily its your game and you can play it however you want

[vale karma]

I mean that's just preference, I love the look and I hate default UI

[zealous goblet]

wrong

i cant bot

its not even our game

[blazing condor]

well you can

[zealous goblet]

we pay to access

[blazing condor]

just not for too long

[zealous goblet]

pwned

intellectually!!

[vale karma]

that's like saying you have zero freedom in your countrie since you can't just kill someone

[blazing condor]

just still can

[zealous goblet]

true

[robust urchin]

Killing people is so easy

[blazing condor]

there are even instances when you legally are allowed to kill people

[zealous goblet]

nazi behavior

[blazing condor]

without being punished

[robust urchin]

Only a handful of murders actually get solved

[zealous goblet]

"waaa dont steal dont kil NOOOOO"\

buncha babies

pop shield wall next time pussi boii

[blazing condor]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/Z_WqBqnOOPkAAAAd/kripp-yap.gif

skyhold this morning

[zealous goblet]

i come out to shitpost in the am so i dont get yelled at when actual discussions are happening

gremlin hours

[robust urchin]

You should shitpost all the time

[wicked pollen]

this is all day tbh

[robust urchin]

Not just early

[blazing condor]

skyhold has fallen

[wicked pollen]

[unkempt hazel]

groundhold

[robust urchin]

Good

[zealous goblet]

do you guys want to hijack the discord and talk about chris chan

[wicked pollen]

no please

[sweet summit]

please shut up

[burnt bane]

is ravager not affected by cdr for some reason? usually it syncs perfectly with spear but my spear is coming up way early with this weeks affix

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-winnie-the-pooh-tigger-sad-disappear-gif-25009198

[sweet summit]

ya bugged

[zealous goblet]

correct.

wait that's a bug?

[sweet summit]

surely that's not intentional

[burnt bane]

cool not crazy ty both

[zealous goblet]

it's been like this since s4 dragonflight. maybe someone else can confirm or deny

[sweet summit]

what

[zealous goblet]

but it makes sense. the pattern i can see is it doesnt affect anything unlocked by talent tree

no, nvm, thunderclap is part of the talent tree

wtf is the consistency

[sweet summit]

multi dollar company or something

[robust urchin]

No it's just not funny anymore after the whole barb thing

[zealous goblet]

ANYWAYS bottomline is it currently affects thunder clap, shield slam, shield block

[robust urchin]

I'd rather talk about boogie or wings

[zealous goblet]

ehhh they're both too stale.

they act predictably sad

no one could predict chris naming himself jesus christ like 20 years ago unironically

[robust urchin]

He was already making himself the mayor of his town

It was inevitable

[analog relic]

hello, sorry to bother you, was wondering something with my guildmate, does the ovi nax trinket scale well on protection ? (like it's marked as bis on echo guide, and my guildmate is wondering if it's really necessary on prot, when I think it scale well on 3+ target and can be considered a bis)

[robust urchin]

But the whole barb thing just makes it all unsettling and giga sad, I just want my lolcows to do stupid embarrassing shit not actually crime felony things

[zealous goblet]

someone help that guy so he doesnt feel ignored i dont know what hes talking about

[zealous goblet]

use wowhead or icyveins

is all i got to say

wtf is echo guide

[robust urchin]

It does ok but I don't think it's bis material

[analog relic]

maxroll guide

[tender reef]

All trinkets bad just take highest I lvl.

Arakara and necrotic if you want to farm stuff

[zealous goblet]

uhh. iunno. felony stuff i'm behind but didn't boogy do like charity fraud or some shit

i'm 90% sure barrier of entry to being a lolcow is commiting crime in the first place

[robust urchin]

SonicJosh is a lolcow and all he did was just embarrassing dumb stuff

[tender reef]

Boogie got caught lying about cancer

[zealous goblet]

wanna do a movie night of lolcow icebergs?

[robust urchin]

No having you Mouthbreather audience give you money for fake cancer is not charity fraud

[zealous goblet]

there's like a 4 hour video

[robust urchin]

No I enjoy my lolcows on my own

[zealous goblet]

also i was asking i wasn't blind firing sorry i didn't convey tone quite well

i'm a little brain fried rn

someone did charity fraud recently and i cannot fucking remember who

i'm sure it'll come to me when im laying in bed

[robust urchin]

The completionist

[zealous goblet]

AHH there we go

[robust urchin]

I see your confusion

Both are fat ungroomed fuckers

[zealous goblet]

LMAO

jfc bro

[robust urchin]

I guess you can call it charity fraud

But boogie was the charity

And while he himself is a big fraud

It's not a recognized charity organization

[zealous goblet]

dude dating at like a 20 year age gap is crazy

i already go insane talking to like, 19 year olds and 20 year olds and i'm not that much older than thme

most vain motherfuckers

[robust urchin]

You might think it's crazy, weird, freaky

But it's still legal

[zealous goblet]

oh no i'm not caught up on that i'm referring strictly to how unbearable that age range is

verbally

nails on chalkboard

[simple drum]

I’ve dated a woman 10 years younger than me and 10 years older than me, the older you get the less weird it is

[robust urchin]

Yes sure but there is absolutely nothing morally wrong about it, except for whatever a person personally feels is wrong about it

[zealous goblet]

never said there was

[robust urchin]

I'm just saying that in general because people make wild accusations about him on that front

Boogie has enough shit to criticize that actually matters no reason to make up dumb shit

[tender reef]

The lady just wants him to die with his sleep apnea to get the life insurance

[robust urchin]

Bro what life insurance

Dude fucking broke

[tender reef]

THERE IS NO WAY SHE DIDNT MADE HIM A FAT ONE IN THE FIRST 2 WEEKS

[robust urchin]

Bro have you seen/heard her?

[tender reef]

Ye

Blondy no

[robust urchin]

I think it's more of a case of "I don't wanna die alone and have mental problems" case

[tender reef]

On boogies part yeah

Not on the lady

[robust urchin]

On hers too

[tender reef]

Nah

[robust urchin]

She sounds like she suffers from Stockholm

[tender reef]

xD

She waiting for pay day I told xa

[robust urchin]

Nah I think there's something other going on

[tender reef]

"how is he still alive" he told me has cancer 3byears ago

[robust urchin]

Either way there is not gonna be a payday for her

[tender reef]

I can't believe he has no huge lige insurance

Life*

I'd bet on it

For odds I also bet he got it after getting the lady

Or maybe it's just true love . I just don't believe in that

[robust urchin]

I don't believe he and she are smart enough to make good decisions

[tender reef]

Bro I changed talents and need like 3-5 good runs to then change and test again but I had like 10 failed keys yesterday

Most people are not smart that's not the measurement you should use.

People are people

[solar crown]

Do we have to switch to lootspec arms/fury for trinkets?

[robust urchin]

Go fury for a chance to also get a good weapon

But I'm sure meat hook drops for protection too

[tender reef]

If you don't need shield do fury

[lime willow]

Prot drops a lot of the same trinkets now, not many defensive trinks in M+

[zealous goblet]

wait my head is breaking, is the rotation the exact same almost for colossus?

i'm practicing it for the fuck of it

this is not clicking for me why is it not clicking

fuck

[wicked pollen]

i swear its just revenge

prob just look at a log

[zealous goblet]

it just feels wrong, y'know?

[fluid widget]

Do y’all ever demoralizing shout as a defensive cd in raid? And do yall sit in defensive stance or do you stance dance (with the damage reduction gone)

[sharp gale]

I don’t

[solar crown]

wouldnt that give a 2hander?

[robust urchin]

SMF

[solar crown]

que pasa?

[sharp gale]

I prefer having 2 hands in loot table than a 1 hand, shields and dogshit dungeons tank trinkets in the loot table

[robust urchin]

You come to America you better speak American paco

Single Minded Fury is a talent that buffs one handed damage for fury

So fury spec is eligible for one handers

[sharp gale]

Ye I always open vault as arms

[solar crown]

Oh, ok, thank you 🙂

[robust urchin]

Which is why fury warriors have to use arms loot spec to not get any one handers

[solar crown]

gg bliz

everyone uses someone elses lootspec

so the tl;dr is lootspec prot if you need a shield from something specific, or else go fury

[sharp gale]

I crafted the shield, I would be mad if I got a shield in vault and a 2 hand is handy to off spec

[robust urchin]

Not everyone has crafted one

You generally just want to upgrade weapons/shield asap so just keep prot as loot spec

Unless you have myth track shield/weapon

[simple ether]

Arms comming here considering swapping to prot after catching way to many fury nerfs, but reading past 200 msgs im not sure i want in no more 😂

[robust urchin]

Prot is good

Arms is fine too tbh

The problem is finding a guild for prot as most guilds already have enough tanks

[sharp gale]

Im searching so I can tell

I might consider open my search to English speaking guild (im French)

[robust urchin]

Good luck, I for one prefer not to have any french realms in my pugs

[sharp gale]

Me too and Sanguino ofc

[robust urchin]

Fuck that place in particular

Sanguino, Kazzak, Area52

[simple ether]

Yeah i just pug HC raid and do keys tbh, my tank friend kinda stopped so im stuck quing keys as solo arms 2100 Rio 613 ilvl🥵

[robust urchin]

You just know you're not having a good time or timed keys with these realms

[fluid widget]

Azgalor too

[sharp gale]

Wtf is azgalor server, I think I invite the dude just for the server

[unkempt hazel]

kazzak

[sharp gale]

And sorry to all Italians but Pozzo….

[robust urchin]

Honestly I might sound racist

But just don't invite foreign language realms

They will just proceed to speak their language and deplete your keys

[tight pike]

what weapon enchant do you want as prot for solely m+? the authority of depth?

[fresh merlin]

Radiant I believe

Is what I’ve seen on raider.io

[tight pike]

awesome ty

[sharp gale]

Kinda have to choose

[fluid widget]

Depths gives higher prio damage

Which is still nice in keys

[sharp gale]

Ye there is no « best » decided yet

[fluid widget]

What embellishments did you guys go with? Currently have 2h/bracers with ascension but swapping to prot for guild and trying to figure out what to go with

Was leaning towards the dawnthread over focusing but figured I’d ask

[wicked pollen]

prob just listen to wowhead or icyveins

if you are only going to play prot

or you could just wait to craft for prot

[stiff plover]

is this our tankiest build for m+ or any other suggestions?

[wicked pollen]

no

[zealous goblet]

you shouldn't run into the fray not enough haste to support it

also don't drop ravager for BSV

[green bronze]

i think kirawarrior uses this exact build in 13s

[wicked pollen]

who

[zealous goblet]

i believe the recommendation is to drop shield charge and the enhanced shield charge and to take bolster and bsv. ask someone better than me on that. but don't take into the fray right now.

[sharp gale]

The recommandation is to drop ravager…

[wicked pollen]

this is the tankiest build

[green bronze]

into the fray is fine as long as you have 20k haste, probably will still work on lower

[zealous goblet]

from who

[fluid widget]

Wouldn’t you grab the 6% magic DR too?

[unreal oriole]

i'm kinda considering dropping indomitable, it doesn't seem to heal that much overall, am i trolling?

[fluid widget]

If we’re really talking about tankiest

[wicked pollen]

those two points are legit so negligible

legit coinflip

who cares

[green bronze]

yes, he should absolutely take 6% magic DR, didnt even notice he has revenge talent

[wicked pollen]

i love how we have this discussion every day

bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv

[green bronze]

it is fine in my opinion

[fluid widget]

I think I’m gonna like it here 🙂

[green bronze]

BSV really does trigger some people here)

[stiff plover]

Feel like I started a war XD

[sharp gale]

From from statistics of top 50 prots

[wicked pollen]

its not better

less damage

[zealous goblet]

the literal guide writer recommends not doing that

[solid sun]

Question. Third boss Necrotic Wake. My friends and I have notified the hooks just won’t go out periodically. Arrows get lined up, only one abom out, throw animation resolves, no hook

Is anyone else experiencing this and knows a fix or am I tanking it wrong somehow or what in tarnation is going on

[wicked pollen]

and rage

[green bronze]

i think every top prot just drops ravager in favor of bsv, at least top 5 does

[wicked pollen]

its not better?

[green bronze]

just check top 5 io tanks

[wicked pollen]

i legit play raid execute in M+

[green bronze]

i meants prots

[wicked pollen]

are people copying me

?

[zealous goblet]

excuse the ping gio i just need to pin this, and if you look just a little below you will see nome saying that the build is the training wheel build

had to go digging for it

[green bronze]

yes, it happened to me as well, i think its a known bug, hoping blizzard will fix it soon

[zealous goblet]

please don't drop ravager its so fucking good

[wicked pollen]

did i not say we have this shit everyday

[green bronze]

but shield charge is so fucking good as well

[wicked pollen]

bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv bsv

[sharp gale]

Just choose whatever you want

[wicked pollen]

there is a difference in saying choose whatever you want and which is better though

[zealous goblet]

it is! but you want to take bsv so i guess we gotta cut back on something, and it's heavily recommended you cut back on shield charge if you really want bsv

ideally you just don't take bsv at all

[green bronze]

i just removed ravager, feels fine in 11s, i don't even notice i don't have ravager tbh)

but im 100% sure i will feel the lack of shield charge

[sharp gale]

Apparently the better for some people is the theorical 1 guide writer and not what people actually do

[fluid widget]

But why would you go BSV?

[zealous goblet]

well if you wanna get into it why do you need a cheat death

[stiff plover]

tbh I kind feel annoyed to press spear plus ravager on pull I rather have one less GCD and extra passive defensiveness. I haven't deplete a key due to tank dmg is almost always other mistakes that cause it

[solid sun]

I play heavy repercussions cause I’m afraid I’ll drop shield block :x

[wicked pollen]

so lets think about it instead of playing feelcraft

[green bronze]

well, with perfect play, maybe, but BSV speeds up your significantly, sometimes wall is on CD, but you need to go to next pull, you would have died without BSV on that pull

[robust urchin]

I really don't understand what the banana streak virus has to do with protection and at this point I'm afraid to ask

[sharp gale]

To have a « cheat death » and you lose only 4% dps ravager is not a big thing you know

[wicked pollen]

so you are just ignoring the fact

that ravager generates rage

which is survivability

[zealous goblet]

it also serves as extra burst, albeit small

when you need to burst something every little bit helps

off the top of my head, necrotic wake 3rd boss

[sharp gale]

A cheat death is survivability just you have to choose what you prefer

[zealous goblet]

also this is solved by just layering your cds properly

[green bronze]

so BSV lets you keep pulling when your wall is on cd, which speeds up your key and can also save you in case you fuck up, cause we are all people and make mistakes

[robust urchin]

Honestly he's not that hard just sim the hooks and DPS good

[green bronze]

i think you are big trolling if you are not taking BSV in m+

[fluid widget]

That burst window feels so good though with ravager

[zealous goblet]

you can think that if you want!

number's don't lie tho

[tulip remnant]

You guys go below 25%?

[sharp gale]

When you open some pack with 0 cds yes

[zealous goblet]

it unironically just comes down to play better and take it off when you're ready

[robust urchin]

I think that you are a poopy head

[solid sun]

I think there’s a difference between wanting to take bsv because it’s comfy for you and claiming that not taking it is big trolling

[zealous goblet]

you might be in works with my friends and thus a tainted source of informantion

[wicked pollen]

@zealous goblet look dms

[tulip remnant]

Chain pulling is a dead art smh

[robust urchin]

I only have good information, all of my takes are 💯 based and good

[zealous goblet]

i have read the dm and renewed my faith in the cause

[green bronze]

well, every prot in top10 io takes BSV instead of ravager, i think it speaks of something

[wicked pollen]

🤓

[zealous goblet]

you need to understand why they are taking something

instead of blindly copying

[robust urchin]

Sheep mentality

[tulip remnant]

Needing it in a +13 isn’t the same as needing it in a +6

[green bronze]

well, im not talking about +6, i feel like i need it in +11s

[wicked pollen]

then you are just playing wrong

[mental scarab]

BSV?

[wicked pollen]

misusing cds

turning back

[solid sun]

Have you tried out D Stance?

[wicked pollen]

group not getting kickks

[zealous goblet]

the reason top warriors are taking it is because yes, eventually keys will just have mobs literally one shotting you

but this is just not the case in an 11

[robust urchin]

MDI and RWF were the worst things to ever happen to wow, the consequences have been disastrous on the game

[sharp gale]

Well you say a lot of things answered by taking BsV, you give reasons to take it dude

[zealous goblet]

what the fuck are those

[eager phoenix]

hard to salvage a tank death and even worse now with challenger's peril. 3 min cheath is no-brainer. its way better than any of the other tanks equivalent

[green bronze]

guess you are all machines that never make mistakes and don't need BSV

ill keep using it and don't brick my keys by accidental deaths

[tulip remnant]

Prot kinda hard to mess up bad enough to die in tbh.

[zealous goblet]

good for you?

[green bronze]

well, sometimes you have to go into a pull without wall, without BSV you would just stand there for 10 seconds and wait for wall cd

[zealous goblet]

the numerically best way to play has been provided, you're going against it. you go sport. we were just informing you it wasn't the best decision

[solid sun]

No stun or fear? No movement keys or leap to live after grabbing aggro?

Like if you’re going to stand there and die after ten seconds don’t stand there for ten seconds

[robust urchin]

You guys are all cowards I jump into adds with my back turned to them

No CDs no defensive no nothing

Hardcore living

[zealous goblet]

also you really don't need to misrepresent an argument like this

[green bronze]

well, numerical isn't always best in practice

[solid sun]

You can’t just fight math. Math is way too big it’ll beat you up

[green bronze]

numerically, ravager is best, i won't argue with that, but i feel like in practice, you really need both BSV and shield charge

[robust urchin]

Fuck math
All my homies hate math

[tulip remnant]

Idk. Slamming Ravager and getting SB, Max IP from one button is pretty solid, call me weird tho.

[solid sun]

I had not considered this

U right tho

[robust urchin]

I make math my bitch by using chatgpt for it

[zealous goblet]

hell the original question, even if i concede is "is this the tankiest build in m+?" and the dude is taking into the fray

that's like 80% shield block uptime

of course you're gonna need bsv with that uptime

[green bronze]

you can theorize that you don't need any defensive talent aside shield block and wall, cause you will survive with perfect pulls and perfect cd management and perfect interrupts, but it is never the case in m+

[robust urchin]

Shout-out to my math teachers saying I'm not always gonna have a calculator on me

Fuck you bitches

[tulip remnant]

Play with better DPS?

[solid sun]

Isn’t into the fray recommended? I take heavy repercussions but I thought that’s because I was admitting I was bad

[green bronze]

is that an argument against BSV?

[zealous goblet]

you literally do not have the haste to suppor tit

it just doesn't matter as much in a raid setting

so it's recommended for raid

[sharp gale]

The key will never be depleted bc you don’t take into the frey

[tulip remnant]

No, if you die to mechanics. Play with better players. 5 head move

[solid sun]

Wow thanks guys I’m better than I thought!

Look at us. Defeating math. Building confidence. What a great day

[green bronze]

i would love that, but can never guess if player is good or bad on a glance, and i don't have all day to analyze every pug i get

[sharp gale]

Death to math !

[robust urchin]

Stop having a good day

[eager phoenix]

play safe big io

[robust urchin]

This is Skyhold

[tulip remnant]

Learn to be more toxic as a tank

[solid sun]

Oh whoops

[green bronze]

hell, i love that BSV is finally working this expac and we can have this discussions

[solid sun]

Lovegun you’re already messed up try being hategun instead

[eager phoenix]

only dps players have time to type mid dungeon

[green bronze]

we have enough hate in pugs

[wicked pollen]

if you arent alt tabing mid key idk what you are doing

tanking is the most boring shit in the game

[green bronze]

i choose to spread love

[robust urchin]

I blacklist chatters from my pugs

I want my DPS to PUMP not BLAB

[solid sun]

Yapping is strictly prohibited

[tulip remnant]

I would deplete a key on sight if my DPS said some shit

I have tank queues

[wicked pollen]

?

[lone kiln]

whenever a friend asks me to stream in disc, i just hit shield wall and do it lol

[eager phoenix]

i dont even read chat when im playing. they can blog all they want

[wicked pollen]

what are tank queues

[tulip remnant]

real

[tulip warren]

i can agree , one dps yesterday had time to write “wtf “

[sharp gale]

Tank privilege

[tulip remnant]

Leave the group, kill the key

[wicked pollen]

im alt tab mid boss fight, we are not the saem

[zealous goblet]

i would literally rather someone bricks my key than gives me lip

[robust urchin]

My dungeon my rules I am the tank you are nothing you are the DPS you obey and follow

[zealous goblet]

because giving me lip gives me hope while tilting me

[robust urchin]

That's just how the cookie crumbles

[lone kiln]

Teach me your ways oh great one

[green bronze]

haha, i once bricked my boralus key on first pull and of my party members was so salty he literally said: "and this guy gets insta invited all around, unbelievable")

[zealous goblet]

bricking my key lets me go next

[wicked pollen]

hands are permanently positioned on alt

[tulip warren]

hahah yes sir ! it’s magical

[green bronze]

i thought i would try to survive that pull without using wall, haha

[zealous goblet]

wall is on a 1 min cd roughly

[wicked pollen]

real, i did hallway of stonevault, dps refused to cc and kick they died

[zealous goblet]

use that shit

[wicked pollen]

and i left

[tulip warren]

they can dare voting me out and wait another 50 min

[tulip remnant]

If you wouldn’t brick your own key, you don’t deserve to be a tank.

[green bronze]

ye, ofc, was just testing my boundaries

[robust urchin]

I once bricked a guys key because he and his friend wouldn't stop talking in french

[zealous goblet]

i limit test almost every fucking key, tank anxiety is unironically people being pussies. reject the fear of failure. it ain't a final exam

[robust urchin]

We were doing well too, could have been easily timed +2

[lone kiln]

this kinda feels like a tank question, so ill ask it here. Is there a place where all tanks come together, no matter what class they play? just for like general tanking vibes. Disc or reddit, im not picky

[robust urchin]

I just hearted out and left

[zealous goblet]

i pulled gatekeepers on a 9

idgaf

[solid sun]

I’ll brick a key so fast. I’m crazy good at it.

Sometimes I’ll brick a key and didn’t even mean to and be like yo you’re welcome

[sharp gale]

Every time in mists when there is the double pack room in the maze : it’s time to wipe bc I want to tank that

[tulip remnant]

Ah, all the tank vets have entered the chat lmaoooo

[zealous goblet]

we never left we were just having a heated daily discussion over bsv

now we reaggro'd to the real enemy

[robust urchin]

Blue Oyster club is the tank spot

[zealous goblet]

dps players with egos

we hold the power

[wicked pollen]

i am dps player with ego

in tank

https://tenor.com/bOnH7.gif

[zealous goblet]

FUCK

[tulip warren]

i don’t even equip my shield 🛡️

[zealous goblet]

i can't type

KEEP YOURSELF

SAFE

BUT... NOT WHOLESOME

[solid sun]

Me being a dps player with an ego is why I tank

[sharp gale]

Double one hand

[robust urchin]

GAME END YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY

[zealous goblet]

YEAH

THAT

FUCKING DPS PLAYER

ACTUAL HOG

SWINE

[wicked pollen]

i dont trust lfg tanks to not die

[zealous goblet]

I WISH

PLAGUE

AND DEATH

[tulip warren]

that’s the way , old school dk

[zealous goblet]

AND POX

UPON YOUR FAMILY

[wicked pollen]

so i have to do it

[zealous goblet]

MAY YOUR PIPES RUN WITH BLOOD

AND LOCUSTS INFEST YOUR HOUSE

DOWN WITH THE DPS PLAYERS

[solid sun]

I love listing a group for the wrong dungeon and get everyone there and then tell everyone oops its the wrong dungeon and leave the group

It’s like bricking a key before even starting the key

[tulip warren]

even bran knows in delves that i call the shots

[robust urchin]

when the DPS and healer decide to give me lip as a tank

Peasants need to learn there place

[zealous goblet]

ok we can shake hands today lovegun

lovegun you here still buddy

run bsv

in the end on the battlefield

we fight as brothers

nvm he died

fuck you lovegun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860203758109851700/1289014768946118727/1662669571153-screen-shot-2022-09-08-at-43919-pm.webp

[sharp gale]

He forgot bsv has 3 min cd

[robust urchin]

I guess his cheat death was on CD

[sharp gale]

Ran into 3 gatekeepers bc he felt stronk

[zealous goblet]

yo

no meme though

[solid sun]

Do y’all still ping Princess’ burn book and bait people into getting assassinated

[zealous goblet]

one of my dps friends was asking if i was gonna pull big on necrotic wake

[sharp gale]

30 stack dmg amp on him in stonevault he is still facetanking right now

[zealous goblet]

but like, we don't want to pull gate keepers

and i need to play around corpse fuckers kickables

so i literally cannot pull big

it's an unwinnable situation

[sharp gale]

I enjoy the first pull NW

[inland raft]

Just pull whole room onto boss and when wipe ask where his damage was

[solid sun]

In my experience you win by not venturing into necrotic wake

[robust urchin]

Me when the group tells me to pull careful in stone vault because of some dumb stacks

Bitches don't know me

[sharp gale]

But the key drop in everyones bag

[tulip warren]

necrotic wake > siege 😅

[solid sun]

Do a pug key with the homies and everyone swap after timing it

Or play a different game

[zealous goblet]

whats the first pull in your eyes?

is it the first 3 packs right in front of the door?

[green bronze]

ye, its fun, especially if you pull gatekeeper)

[inland raft]

In my experience pugs dont know how to focus the gatekeeper

[robust urchin]

Fuck the gatekeeper

[sharp gale]

Left and front first pack+ next with a caster + melee explodes at death boys right of them + the 5 pack in the middle

[robust urchin]

I'm the only gatekeeper in my groups, I gatekeep them from timing keys

[zealous goblet]

i honestly think gatekeepers aren't that bad no meme

[inland raft]

They aren’t if focused

They only bad if left alive for a long time

[green bronze]

wait, you take the mobs on the right of the gate?

[tribal wharf]

wtf mobile ads

[wicked pollen]

yogi...

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-omg-gif-15232931434758505236

[tribal wharf]

these ads get worse with each year

[zealous goblet]

how full are your rainbow dash jars fella

fellas

wait which fucking pony was it that started the infamous jar spree

idfk

someone else correct me

im not googling it im eating breakfast

[robust urchin]

Either pinkie pie or fluttershy

[tribal wharf]

i told a streamer about what pony jars are once and he like immediately stopped the stream after basically

[robust urchin]

The pink or the yellow one I'm like 100 sure of it

[sharp gale]

Im on the phone can’t send a screen but basically the « regular » first pack + the 5 guys in the middle

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/help-stuck-jar-vypustite-gif-27653134

he is powerless

help me friends

[tribal wharf]

once he realized what it was and that we werent joking about some ppl doing it

[zealous goblet]

the jars are merely a sequel

y'all hear of a JO crystal?

[cold pilot]

Anyone got any good MDT routes for 10+ keys?

[zealous goblet]

wrong time billiam.. wrong time.

[tribal wharf]

that ad i beloeve came from facebook

[zealous goblet]

we're discussing crystals here

jk

someone help this man with routes

so i can go back to being a goblin

[robust urchin]

No it's craigslist

The source of all funny ads

[tribal wharf]

why are internet ads so cursed compared to tv ads

[cold pilot]

I'll come back later lol

[sharp gale]

Too busy with my crystal rn

[robust urchin]

Actually true but it was a sequel to Jizzus

[zealous goblet]

what in lord's fuck is a jizzus

educate me

[robust urchin]

Just Google Jizzus Christ

[zealous goblet]

on it

[harsh trellis]

have you looked at keystone guru?

[zealous goblet]

oh.. oh no..

[cold pilot]

I haven't

[harsh trellis]

https://keystone.guru/routes/tww/season/1

[cold pilot]

Thanks friend

[sharp gale]

Oh I can do routes on my phone for fun

Thx didn’t know guru

[robust urchin]

Scatter eagle on his way to buy 5litre bottles for a "project"

[sharp gale]

@green bronze that and the regular when I’m in pug I just don’t take the 5 guys

[zealous goblet]

too poor, i'm french

[robust urchin]

OUI OUI WE LIKE THE BAGUETTE AND FROG LEGS LOOK AT ME I EATA THE TARTARE JERRY LEWIS OUI OUI

[solid sun]

You just send it down the middle???

[neon elk]

Did they change grim batol % slightly ? I did my usual 100% route, mdt shows it at 100% route, and at end if was like 0.5% short

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-note-mean-spongebob-gif-17055030

[robust urchin]

Don't bother mentioning me, I won't read it anyway

[sharp gale]

Stop I talked to a Dutch who just screamed non stop HAPPY, snails, baguette oui oui

[zealous goblet]

its fine your handler will read to you

[robust urchin]

I don't have a handler

[zealous goblet]

prot warriors are mentally ill this we know

[robust urchin]

I'm unhinged and a danger to society

[zealous goblet]

certified joker moment

!!

[robust urchin]

More like certified gamer moment

[zealous goblet]

ok i go now bye

i've been up too long

[robust urchin]

OUI OUI

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/francis-boogie2988-flip-rage-gif-9160180

me leave parting gif

[solid sun]

Your first pull is 19 mobs?

[robust urchin]

ScatterEagle when someone makes a joke about france or french people

[zealous goblet]

wrong french

[robust urchin]

Oh no

[zealous goblet]

[robust urchin]

Are you french canadian

[sharp gale]

I don’t know any dutch stereotype how can I fight racism with racism with no data

[crystal mauve]

Anyone ever had problems with Ara Kara Bloodstained Assitants and their unblockable Extraction trike hitting for 3m?

[robust urchin]

That's even worse

[zealous goblet]

yeah i'm not even good at speaking french

i grew up english

i've inherited nothing but downsides

[robust urchin]

Educate yourself

[sharp gale]

Usually 14, the 19 is with my friends

[robust urchin]

Be racist in the best and most educated way possible

[robust urchin]

EHATS ALL THIS ABOOOOOT THEN

YEAH I LOVE MY TIMMY HORTON BROOO

HERE HAVE A LOONI AND A TOONY FOR YOUR TROUBLE

[sharp gale]

Dommage tu aurais pu me murmurer des mots doux à l’oreille

Nano are you thunderclaping irl wtf

[robust urchin]

OUI OUI WE LOVE THE ZERRY LEWIS

[marble sundial]

shit posting in the protection warrior discord at 5 am

about French Canadiens

crazy

[robust urchin]

Regular french too

I am an equal opportunity racist

❤️

[sharp gale]

It’s 2 pm in France we are eating snails and baguette at this time

[robust urchin]

OUI OUI MERDE

LE TOUR DE EIFEL UN MY PANTALOONS

PAMPELMOUSE

[sharp gale]

You know too much French words for your sanity

Pamplemousse is far beyond what you should know

[robust urchin]

SACRE BLEU

[robust urchin]

I heard it once in an add for a language learning service

Just like MONZANAS ROCHAS

[sharp gale]

KILL HIM he knows our secrets

[robust urchin]

It's grapefruit if I recall right

I don't honestly know

Just know french is a weird language

Spoken by weird people

[wide charm]

Anyone beaten T2 Zekvir as prot?

[sharp gale]

I don’t know what is grapefruit, every time I read I imagine it’s a fruit used to drug people and use them

[robust urchin]

It's like a big orange

But it's red

[sharp gale]

Mmmmmh

Maybe it is linked with pamplemousse

But just a guess

[robust urchin]

Lmao you also call it citrus x paradisi

Bro french is literally a made up language of nothing 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[sharp gale]

It’s the scientific name

A grapefruit is a citrus

[robust urchin]

And what is x paradisi

It's like spy x family or some shit

[sharp gale]

Don’t know first time I hear it

[robust urchin]

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_×paradisi

[sharp gale]

I guess latin = scientific thing

[robust urchin]

French frfr nonsense

[sharp gale]

They say it is called « the forbidden fruit »

What did pamplemousse did to humanity do deserve this

[robust urchin]

💀💀💀💀💀

MERDE YOU NO EAT GOOD VEGETABLE YOU EAT FROGS AND SNAILS OUI OUI THIS IS THE WAY FOR FRANCE

[sharp gale]

I think it ran bsv with wrong people that’s it

[sharp gale]

On the English Wikipedia of grapefruit where there is also x Paradisi it is said it’s the binomial name whatever that means

[robust urchin]

"Bro french cuisine is so good"

The cuisine

[potent tree]

That they are doing 12s and u are not

[opal forum]

for thane, the correct VO usage is SS on ST, TC on 4+ target, TB on 2+ target is that correct?

[sharp gale]

I never ate that in my entire life, I never saw a restaurant serving this too

[robust urchin]

Strawman

[sharp gale]

Straw man is right

If you are confident

And you have the last word

[robust urchin]

No

[sharp gale]

But I admit I eat a lot of pork where I live but it’s more a German thing to eat pork in every shape

[robust urchin]

ERSTMAL NE SÜLZE

EIN METTBROTCHEN BITTE

MIT ZWIEBEL

[sharp gale]

ICH WÜRDE GERN EIN PAPAGEI

[robust urchin]

You sick fuck

[sharp gale]

Ein Mcmenu Big Mac mit pommes und cola bitte

[robust urchin]

McRib>Big Mac

[sharp gale]

Should try the McPork’sFeet

[robust urchin]

Do you know what they call a big Mac in France?

[sharp gale]

Oui

[unkempt hazel]

no what do they call it

[robust urchin]

Big Mac

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-okthen-nvm-sad-gif-7234486

[sharp gale]

I take 2 mcsmart menu when I go to McDonald’s (almost never)

[unkempt hazel]

[robust urchin]

You know what they call a whopper?

[sharp gale]

Oui

[robust urchin]

I don't I didn't go to Burger King

[unkempt hazel]

ok vincent

[sharp gale]

Whopper but French with 0 accent knowledge saying it

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-tasy-burger-food-hungry-burger-samuel-jackson-gif-7649288

I wouldn't mind some nice burger rn

[sharp gale]

That I want rn

When i went to the us and asked where I can eat a tacos it felt kinda weird

[tulip warren]

burrito 🌯?

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-heck-is-going-on-here-confused-upset-whats-going-on-lost-gif-15028193

[sharp gale]

Someone talked about BSV

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/big-buger-eat-buger-the-rock-burger-gif-22532545

warriors lunch thats what

[jagged pier]

How did u get a video of me eating lunch?

[unkempt hazel]

im in ur walls

[jagged pier]

[wide charm]

whats wrong with BSV?

[unkempt hazel]

[sharp gale]

Nothing but some are angry

[jagged pier]

Its a crutch not an amazing thing. But if you want to play with it feel free

[tulip warren]

what is BSV , is it a burrito ?

[jagged pier]

I mean its more what ppl are dropping to take it atm

[wide charm]

you feel this way in keys?

Like 11+?

[jagged pier]

I have never run bsv

And i never will

[sharp gale]

The talent « cheat death » at the bottom of talent tree, some take it replacing ravager

[jagged pier]

I dont die in 10s

So i can say with confidence i wont die in 11s

[wide charm]

It's extremely useful in keys. I think you should try it if you are trying to push.
Especially in the first 2 weeks, it was handy.

[tulip warren]

aaaa i think i used it for a bit in the early days to feel safer

[wide charm]

As people get more gear sure, it'll lose value in high keys

[jagged pier]

Not really because your probably proccing it when u dont need it and then dont have it when u want it

But again u can play it if u want

[sharp gale]

I don’t run it but I understand people doing it

[wide charm]

That's true sometimes --- but I'd say it procs at an advantagous time at least 2/3 procs

[jagged pier]

Just please drop thw correct talents for it

[wide charm]

unless you're just playing badly

[tulip warren]

to be honest at the end of the day , i am the last person standing so i just want to wipe and restart ?

[jagged pier]

Atm ppl are dropping the weong talents and just making themselves squishier

[jagged pier]

U cant live for any period of time witha group wipe its not df

[jagged pier]

Yes its a joke

[toxic gyro]

Did they fix it at least? It was buggy as hell last xpac.

[wide charm]

Really? I tried it a little bit ago and I got to p2 just fine but I'm not sure how to kill the eggs in time in p2 as he's usually spamming swirlies while the eggs are out so I couldn't demolish safely.

[jagged pier]

Yer really i unequiped gear to get ilvl and still did it.

Its very easy

[wide charm]

I feel like either I'm missing something major or you are just trolling

[jagged pier]

Yer thats when they fixed it s4

[jagged pier]

I literally posted a video of it

[sharp gale]

they nerfed it maybe you didn't try since then

[wide charm]

does it have your build / etc? Link please I'd love to see cus I wanna figure it out

[jagged pier]

Depends what a little bit ago meand

[sharp gale]

but it is a joke now

[jagged pier]

If he means today then no, 2 weeks ago it was impossible for anyone

And has been neefed since then

[wide charm]

No I mean today, T2 Zekvir, the fight was like 8 minutes to get it to 50% so if you guys are saying "it's a joke" then I'm clearly missing something major

0 heals went off with that attempt I'm referencing

[sharp gale]

unless infinte kite but even with my hunt i was too lazy i said "later when ilvl up"

[jagged pier]

https://youtu.be/QZ0DaDlxpcI?si=qO4IzadkxLWjcvQE

[wide charm]

Wait what the hell 537?

is this scaled to ILVL?

[jagged pier]

Nah u couldnt bran just died

[jagged pier]

No as i said i took armour pieces off

Not quite the same as equiping the same ilvl pieces

I was just copying sense for the memes to do it at low ilvl

[wide charm]

K let me watch this because I genuinely could barely kill the eggs in time at 622

and I definitely don't think I'm bad at warriors

[sharp gale]

dont hide from us it is your description

[jagged pier]

Btw sense did it with a completely different build

So dont just blindly copy me

[ornate thicket]

Lol i am sus of a lot of the same things but nah

[nocturne vine]

Someone is using Colossus in m+ as well?

Just fishing feedback

I know is not the optimal one

[jagged pier]

Yes lots of ppl

[sharp gale]

on murlok you see 6 dudes playing colossus but never saw someone wiht it

[nocturne vine]

The defensive value difference is that big?

[nocturne vine]

Was checking now

[green bronze]

tried it, constantly feel like im rage starved so didnt like it much

[nocturne vine]

Dmgwise seems a lot

[jagged pier]

If played corrrctly its still worse than thane

And no its not that much more

[graceful kite]

Based?

[jagged pier]

Also please dont just follow murlock io and stuff blindly

[nocturne vine]

With worse you mean?

[jagged pier]

We already know they doing stuff wrong

[nocturne vine]

No no just curious

[opal vale]

Thoughts on the candlestick? Got a void pactstone and detachable fang equipped right now. only mythic item is the ring which is a lot of mastery so wasnt sure about that. Already got a hero track weapon and the gloves probably the biggest ilvl upgrade but only hero.

[jagged pier]

Worse defensivly for sure

[nocturne vine]

Would you use it in raid encounters?

[jagged pier]

Yer

[nocturne vine]

st seems op

[jagged pier]

I play colossus more than thane

Only play thane when pugging