protection

[lusty grotto]

no

cause youre very likely buffed

and/or

sacrificing ilvl

[twilit burrow]

Nope no ITF

[merry sluice]

that amout of haste makes me feel things

[lusty grotto]

its still not too much

[twilit burrow]

22,630

[high mesa]

I think (hope) he meant macroing shield slam to ignore pain, not the other way around

[lusty grotto]

again you probably have weapon oils / haste flask / haste food

[heavy sparrow]

What do you guys think about the meta thunder spec vs the not so meta collussus

[lusty grotto]

so youre buffed

and/or sacrificing ilvl

[tawdry cloak]

The only reason you do this is so you cast shield slam any time you cast ignore pain

[surreal steppe]

still need a naked shield slam bind

[heavy sparrow]

The macro is

/Cast shield slam
/Cast ignore pain

[zealous sun]

any shield crafter here >.> 636

[merry sluice]

both are viable
mountain thane is tankier

colossus can do illegal lvls of dps, but the rotation is awkward, and rage is more tight.

[twilit burrow]

5mil demolish + queens mandate for 5mil

xd

[lusty grotto]

yeah he probably doesnt know how to use it

[tawdry cloak]

The point of this macro is to eat up any shield slam procs when you go to press ignore pain. If that’s your go to shield slam button, that will not work

[potent tree]

I love hitting shield slams for over 3mil + colossus hitting for 5mil

Makes me feel strong

[merry sluice]

revenge spamming feels so cursed to me

but

the dopamine of funny big number is worth it

[toxic pewter]

at least revenges hitting pretty hard

[merry sluice]

oh it fucking h i t s

[lofty veldt]

now i wanna try that.

[toxic pewter]

is barbaric training actually worth it

[potent tree]

I agree with that. Revenge spamming does feel weird

Playing colossus on farm keys is so satisfying. U get close to some shit dps and they get very frustrated

I love it

[merry sluice]

i fele like i get close to shit dps no matter what tank or spec i play

[keen steppe]

you think more krit ore more vers? 😒 10 keys +-

[merry sluice]

i was in a fucking 10 gb with a windwalker doing like half my deathbringer all the way up to first boss

i wanted to die

[lofty veldt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eF1xp3xKyLhztP3CTZ3KND

sim told me to get tier shoulder

[tribal wharf]

rookery sucks

[lusty grotto]

lol?

[potent tree]

I had a DH in a Siege 9 doing 700K overall. 617 ilv btw 🙂

[high wyvern]

I wonder why these high rated io started running into the fray already when they are only still at like 25-30% haste

[merry sluice]

how did you die??

[lusty grotto]

he has to try really hard to die in there

[potent tree]

Why people think playing DH is as easy as it was in legion. Most likely one of the hardest melees to play atm and very easy to die while playing it

[lusty grotto]

kinda feels like the only way to do so is just jumping down without leaping to land or charging or using the slowfall things that the dungeon puts right in front of you

[tender reef]

8%haste is 8%haste

[merry sluice]

i've watched two different havocs fel rush to their deaht

one right off the dawnbreaker on last boss

one right off the side in grim batol

[high wyvern]

Wouldnt u run into shield block uptime problems

If you dont have enough haste yet

[potent tree]

Same. Spec is pretty hard but people want to play the funny demon guy

[lusty grotto]

you would yes

but if they feel they can manage it

🤷

[merry sluice]

while i get that

i think the meta forms are fucking hideous

especially vdh lol

[faint maple]

I was in 9 key with fdk, and he done 800k with aug in 619ilvl.

[potent tree]

Fair

[merry sluice]

the animations are neat

but the actual model is fucking dopey

[faint maple]

Just pugs🫠

[high wyvern]

DH does have very cool design

[lusty grotto]

800k is more than enough for a 9

[potent tree]

Yeah. That’s because the spec is very hard

Just play frost DK

Never die and do dmg with no effort

[tribal wharf]

the fall with float takes too long

i want fall fast but float at ground

[lusty grotto]

fucking called it

[merry sluice]

BUT YOU HAVE LEAP

[tribal wharf]

i know, thats what i was attempting to do

[merry sluice]

that's impressive

that'd get my /point

./laugh macro

[tribal wharf]

i didnt align my self or remember the uh thing i landed on

[merry sluice]

the ground

i think you hit the ground

[tulip remnant]

Suddenly

[tribal wharf]

look again

[merry sluice]

its on the ground

so it counts

[tribal wharf]

no lol

[high wyvern]

Macroing shield slam and ignore pain together is war criminal behavior

[tulip remnant]

Nah. It’s fun af

[merry sluice]

its called

"im out of rage and dead"

[lusty grotto]

business as usual, vault day is about over

[high wyvern]

I do macro ignore pain to shield charge and demo shout tho

Huge QOL

[lusty grotto]

why

[potent tree]

Just put IP on scroll wheel

Easy to press

Don’t macro it to shit

[merry sluice]

i just have it on e

[graceful kite]

Its the hardest by far

[lusty grotto]

champ's bulwark already gives you an IP

why would you macro

IP to shield charge lmao

[heavy sparrow]

So what would be better?

/Cast ignore pain
/Cast shield slam?

Or /cast shield slam
And /cast ignore pain

Macro

[potent tree]

I agree

[jagged pier]

the first one and it replaces your IP bind u still have a SS bind as well its just used to snipe SS reesets

[lusty grotto]

i guess it makes no difference since youll gain rage with SC anyway

[high wyvern]

Spamming ignore pain was tiring my finger out

[potent tree]

Have in a separate bind dude

[lusty grotto]

yeah i guess its fine

[high wyvern]

So i macro it to some of my abilities

[potent tree]

Put on scroll wheel

[high wyvern]

But macroing it to shield slam is crazy

[tribal wharf]

i mean, technically, you are correct i hit the " " " ground " " " surfcace

[potent tree]

Scroll wheel will never tire u

[shrewd plinth]

Is the talent for intervene giving the magic shield to allies any good? I know it’s going to be a lot of focus for probably little gain but I’ve been getting more worried about party survival than my survival with ilvls/exp?

Or is that whole talent noob bait?

[potent tree]

Every button u spam on a spec, I use scroll wheel

[graceful kite]

Its alright

[merry sluice]

what are you trying to get out of this macro?

you still need shield slam bound separately.

the only macro that exists is putting shield slam on ignore pain specifically so you can instantly use your shield slam reset the exact moment it comes up while pressing ignore pain.

otherwise you press shield slam on its own, with or without the macro.

if your goal is to save button binds, it cannot be done

[graceful kite]

And intervene by itself has good use cases

[high wyvern]

And to be fair, i have played a lot of classes, prot warriors have a SHIT ton of buttons i need to bind

Compare to other specs that i used to play

[merry sluice]

i feel i actively press more on deathbringer than prot

[high wyvern]

When playing fury i have like less than 10 buttons

While prot i have like 20+ keybinds

[graceful kite]

On prot you have 3

[tulip remnant]

And hella long CD buttons

[high wyvern]

I have a keybind of marking skull on caster mob too

[shrewd plinth]

Shield slam, t-clap, revenge, kick and ignore pain/shield block. You can kind of click the rest as needed no?

[graceful kite]

💀💀💀

[shrewd plinth]

Execute I guess

[high wyvern]

Wdym click the rest

[merry sluice]

i still wouldn't click cast shit.

you just don't need to press them every 2 seconds

[fossil frost]

Starting fresh on Prot Warr
Got 2 sparks, what to craft first?
Shield+Wep or?

Only M+

[tribal wharf]

there was a bear in some guild i was in in DF

or SL

clicking EVERY BUTTON

they exist

i promise

i know for fact, yet i cannot prove

[potent tree]

We all know they exist

[tulip remnant]

If it’s over a minute. Usually just click it ngl.

[merry sluice]

i had a bear co-tank in df
another one of my cursed cotanks

dude could not hold aggro to save his fucking life

and died constantly, i had to gtfo there

[potent tree]

Try playing enhance. U rip so fucking often

[high wyvern]

Extra buttons that i need on prot compare to like fury: taunt, throw, intervene, shield wall, last stand, spell block, aoe taunt, marker skull macro

Had to find a key for all these spells when switching from fury

[merry sluice]

idk i've had zero problems with dps getting threat off me this season

[potent tree]

I just gave up on pugging on my shaman. U hit back to back tempest and shit tanks will all let u die

[merry sluice]

what i have found that's really fun though

[tulip remnant]

I’ve only had issues with DPS full sending CDs on random trash packs 1 sec in to the pull.

[high wyvern]

As prot warr if u literally hit thunderclap once u can probs afk for the next 5s and ur probs still have threat

[merry sluice]

was this warlock i had in a 10 SoB earlier

who full sent all cds before i was eve in melee rang eof trash lmfao

[shrewd plinth]

T-clap avatar t clap just owns aggro

[tulip remnant]

Based

[potent tree]

Why I like playing AFF. U have like 7 global of ramp, so u can’t pull aggro

[inner wren]

i macro'd swarmlord to shield slam, why 1 min cds gotta be so awkward

i aint got enough buttons for this

[tulip remnant]

We arent pulling out the healer click wheel yet. We are chilling.

[potent tree]

Playing what spec?

[high wyvern]

I was running out of keybinds when i had 2 on use trinket

[lusty grotto]

there's always more keybinds

[inner wren]

at least if the trinket was a 1.5 minute you could tie it to a cd

[lusty grotto]

there's never a scenario where there isnt enough

[merry sluice]

destro

dude was full sending rof, and infernal while my bdk is waddling over

[tulip remnant]

Skarmoraks on Ravager for me rn, i don’t care if it’s bad.

[inner wren]

true but also i'm not trying to learn new keybinds or do some whacky alt or ctrl+ binds

[potent tree]

Lmao

[heavy sparrow]

Ahh so I had it wrong this entire time

[high wyvern]

I guess you could macro shield block and shield slam together

If ur lazy

[jagged pier]

no

[potent tree]

Is destro even good in m+? I guess they are all viable

[ornate thicket]

Well that combo makes sense at least. I tie mine tk spear though. Generally use both together but spear buffs me so i stack the mastery buff too

[merry sluice]

arguably even worse

still waste rage

but you also waste shield block charges

[potent tree]

Stop macroing everything together lol

[heavy sparrow]

I'll try out
/Ignore pain
/Shield slam

[merry sluice]

active mit caps at 3x the duration

[tulip remnant]

It’s a 1.5 Cd lmaooooo

[merry sluice]

if you spam shield block for no reason you just waste the cd and rage

[potent tree]

If u want macro like trinkets that line up with cds

[pastel sleet]

im having a hard time finding pugs that can do gilded level keys. im now 2200+ and ive tanked a 10 successfully. i know im capable. but it is very hard to find dps and healers that can actually time. yall have any social cheat codes? or is it really just keep pugging all day

[heavy sparrow]

I'll just put my entire warrior protection rotation on 1 keybinds with my mouse keybinds hitting 10 clicks per button

[potent tree]

But not SB with random stuff u press all the time

That is very bad

[tulip remnant]

Try and get a set group for it

[high wyvern]

Just put all buttons in one macro and spam it and hope for the best

[jagged pier]

yer have higher io and do 11-12s or be in a guild

all the good players are in 11s and higher now

for puggin at least

[potent tree]

Start adding everyone that u think it’s decent

[next yacht]

So what would you guys take between larynx and hook?

[inner wren]

if you make your own party you can just invite all the meta 620+ ilvl high io players for 9s since they want gildeds

[next yacht]

Both trinkets are very close in sims etc

[high wyvern]

[jagged pier]

someons got an ara ara key

[shrewd plinth]

Grim batol looking key

[merry sluice]

grim batol + pugging makes me want to go backt o palying league instead of walking into that hell hole

[high wyvern]

I feel like signing up as a DPS is basically being a male on dating apps

[shrewd plinth]

Can’t be SoB, that place has a special place in hell

[potent tree]

At least it got nerfed

[merry sluice]

that dungeon has forced my dk's hand into going asphyxiate bc noone will cc enforcers in pugs lol

at least warrior has stun spam

[potent tree]

Fair

[merry sluice]

i dont mind SoB if i can find a group that has a braincell.
worst thing about sob are tanking packs before the first boss

after that its so brain off for me

[toxic pewter]

are enforcers the ogres that hit hard

[merry sluice]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

the dual weilder dudes

ya those dudes dont play

[merry sluice]

huh?
you can't skip them

they just stack if they swing on the tank

[toxic pewter]

are those dudes actually enraged can people dispel their enrage

[merry sluice]

so you just cc them for like 4 seconds

[lusty grotto]

just spear them

[merry sluice]

overseer's are the ones that need dispelling

[merry sluice]

maybe when i enjoy spear.

But i also don't mind this key on prot warrior

i hate it more on bdk.

[shrewd plinth]

You can t-clip and wiggle back and forth over the pack, just don’t give them your back and they’ll lose atleast half their contact

[lusty grotto]

[merry sluice]

i mean that works too but so does just stormbolting it

[shrewd plinth]

All them shaman cap totems racing the mobs to stun immunity 😦

[lusty grotto]

[merry sluice]

you get shamans using their utility?

[shrewd plinth]

That’s more an issue for my personal comps than general pug stuff

[merry sluice]

i get shamans that spam healing surge and still do like 400k hps in a 10

[shrewd plinth]

I play w/ guildies. I wish they had more raw output to go with their good stops xd

[merry sluice]

i know restodruids are ass rn

but i prefer them bc that means they actually understand how to play their spec...
unlike last season

where every other restodruid was fotm who did like 50k dps if you're lucky

[shrewd plinth]

Ever since I saw augs get blindly invited to keys regardless of skill I’d rather take the high io/ilvl offmeta

[merry sluice]

time for my usual rant

about how augs are worse than devoker for any casual group key anyways

top player or not

[lusty grotto]

i mean they are

right now

there's 0 reason to invite an aug

[blazing condor]

thats why you dont invite augs

[lusty grotto]

when dev and pres exist

in their current iteration

[merry sluice]

BUT BUT BUHJ BUHTH HJRBHUGNUVB BUT AUG SO OP I NEED IT
"+7 CHECKING LGOS, DON'T BE SHIT"
200 Io.

[lusty grotto]

which is fine

[tribal wharf]

i dont worry about if im inviting aug or dev, i just invite dragon

cuz healer dragon is still just healer

cuz i also figure that dps dragon will take the spec that suits whats needed

[lusty grotto]

good yogi

[high wyvern]

Sometimes i have the perfect lineup for a juicy spell reflect then someone interrupt the mob

Idk if i should be happy or sad

[shrewd plinth]

Did a grim batol with my fury friend and I’m getting my ass handed to me. And I “my spell reflect pad noo”

[fervent dune]

is there a list for useful intervenes in m+?

[shrewd plinth]

Dude I’m dying, I’m hitting stun

[lusty grotto]

not needed, it works on all fixates

thats it

[fervent dune]

first boss nw is huge

the frontal thing

[lusty grotto]

2nd floor has fixates too

treddy also has fixates on adds

in mists

[high wyvern]

Do i have to be nearby intervene target for it to work

[lusty grotto]

if it fixates, you can intervene

thats it

yes

[high wyvern]

Or can intervene n fk off

[tribal wharf]

i was only getting 3.90m reflects on shadow claw from rock men after boss 1 to boss 2, on +4 sv (farm for cloak and stones)then i remember its tyranical not fort.

[ornate thicket]

Doesnt work on the expel leaps on mists trash :/

[lusty grotto]

its 10 yds for the physical hits

stormshield works wherever

[dark cosmos]

storm shield pog pog pog

[tribal wharf]

i thought for a brief second they had nerfed my reflecting power on that spell

on fort same key lvl its a like 4.8 m reflect

[lusty grotto]

but you want to be 10 yards from the guy on fixates, if they fucking run like an idiot chicken with its head cut off it wont do shit

[shrewd plinth]

Storm shield = 1.5milish?

[high wyvern]

It would be nice to have a list of good mechanics to intervene for M+ this season

[lusty grotto]

...

its like

i just mentioned

[ornate thicket]

I usually intervene corrupt beams in gb too

Helps healer a bit

[earnest nymph]

sorry, still fairly new to warrior, what does intervene do with fixates?

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

you take all the melee the person would take if they get caught up

[shrewd plinth]

Fixates melee a certain random not you player

[lusty grotto]

so they can just stand there and dps while you take the hits

[dark cosmos]

intervene redirects (melee) hits to you, fixate means they get hit (if they arent kiting)

[high wyvern]

So just fixate mechanics?

[shrewd plinth]

Intervene takes their melees from them

[earnest nymph]

ohhh okay

so nothing special

[fervent dune]

https://i.imgur.com/MDNrn1q.png
but this was not natural for me. you can intervene this everytime and its not a fixate

[earnest nymph]

just saving them from not running

[ornate thicket]

Ive saved so many ret pallies on stitch boss nw

[lusty grotto]

?????

[tribal wharf]

so it works on boss 1 siege for 1 melee correct

[lusty grotto]

how is that not special

they can stand and dps

taking NO damage

[earnest nymph]

I thought it was going to like redirect the fixate I mean

[dark cosmos]

Ya its not like some weird interaction

[lusty grotto]

what

[shrewd plinth]

You let someone stay in contact and take the damage for them

Otherwise they’re running to narnia

[earnest nymph]

yeah, that's awesome. didn't mean to diminish the importance of that

[lusty grotto]

or just stand there and pump heals

but again

they have to be within 10 yards of you

[tribal wharf]

have players gotten smart about take boss 1 siege to the bombs in 3 seconds instead of 15 seconds

[lusty grotto]

if they keep running, they are dead

[high wyvern]

Does it work for fixate for first boss of SoB?

[dark cosmos]

that depends on your key level :)

[lusty grotto]

it does

but why would you do it there

[high wyvern]

Cuz people cant kite

[lusty grotto]

you need to tank adds as a tank

it makes no difference in that fight

you dont take the fixate from them

[earnest nymph]

just meant I thought you were saying it was like redirecting the fixate or something. that's what I meant by 'special'

[dark cosmos]

if someones gonna get melee swung then it works, no tricks here

[lusty grotto]

they still need to steer it to bombs

[dark cosmos]

Ya the way they worded it made me think i was missing some secret tech too i get it

[shrewd plinth]

I mean there’s tanking damage for someone else, and then there’s just tanking extra damage period. Probably not worth. Maybe buy someone half a second to realize they’re fixated then continue as normal

[earnest nymph]

exactly, this

[fervent dune]

PSA the circles without swirlies spawn the bombs on SoB

[graceful kite]

you will wipe

because you won't kite into bombs

[tribal wharf]

alot of boss 1's in keys are noob filters, i wont lie

they just do really simple deadly things

and it kills anyone new

[paper raven]

What does the block stat do on shields? I mean, I understand it blocks of course, but does it block a flat number? Just because there is also the stat in the stat sheet which says block chance is x% then it says block reduced damage of an attack by x% as well. Which is it? The block number on the shield? Or the block % on the stat?

[merry sluice]

i've had two keys ina row end up with an evoker and shaman dead to boss fixate

so no

[lusty grotto]

block on shields isnt block chance

block chance is irrelevant

because Shield Block gives you 100% chance

[graceful kite]

some of them are genuinely not easy

[tribal wharf]

tell the shaman to enter ghost wolf for that

so he can move faster

[graceful kite]

I healed stonevault on my undergeared disc yesterday and first boss took like 5 pulls

[paper raven]

@lusty grotto I mean this, not the block chance but the text underneath.

[lusty grotto]

what does block on shields do ? tl;dr: the higher the number the better

[merry sluice]

I mean while yes
in a +10 i prob shouldnt have to tell them that before pull lmfao

[graceful kite]

it hits real hard especially if people blow up too many spikes at once

[lusty grotto]

where K is a constant we call the K Value

[tribal wharf]

player getting fixate should use thier movement speed abilities then

[lusty grotto]

which changes between content and seasons

[dark cosmos]

ya theres some hard first bosses this season, no doubt

[paper raven]

Ok so block is just a stat then that gives more % reduction the higher it is?

[tribal wharf]

not even hard

just filters counters to noob behaviour

not moving

[dark cosmos]

alright dude nvm i guess

[lusty grotto]

sure, you can see it that way

[tribal wharf]

not dispelling

[dark cosmos]

nothings hard were just bad

[lusty grotto]

up to a certain point

Grizzle

because the limiting factor is the K value

[tribal wharf]

cuz there are bosses that wont tricky ricky kill youi like boss 1 siege

[lusty grotto]

as seen in the formula

[tribal wharf]

but they will simply numbers you to death

[lusty grotto]

but generally we recommend ilvl > all on shields first and foremost because of that block value (or stat) on shields

the higher the ilvl of the shield

the higher that block value will be

that's why when comparing shields, you should ALWAYS use the higher ilvl one

or higher track

[tribal wharf]

everytime you wipe to something a bunch, put it as note in the MDT route

[lusty grotto]

myth being the highest

[tribal wharf]

once you figure out the root causes and solutions to those problems

[merry sluice]

if walking away from boss, or not stacking on players for dispels on orator
or filling the middle of dawnbreaker with massive ass aoe's

etc etc are hard then uh...

i just dunno what to say

[fervent dune]

Mountain Thane: Ilvl > Haste -> Crit
why is crit better for mountain thane?

[turbid shuttle]

it's useful on more than just fixates

[lusty grotto]

we're talking about strictly fixates

not storm shield

keep up with the context please

[dark cosmos]

people make mistakes, some bosses are numerically a lot harder or much more mistake prone or have a smaller margin for error than others

[fervent dune]

share some tricks pls. i remember in shadowlands that first boss in NW would oneshot people on the frontal even with a defensive. intervene negates that mechanic

[dark cosmos]

I can describe a mechanic on any boss as "just do ___" and call it easy but thats not really an accurate view of how dungeons play out

[lusty grotto]

the first boss reflect was already mentioned

[tender reef]

Damage

[turbid shuttle]

Not storm shield either. The intervene itself is useful on more than just fixates.

[lusty grotto]

NW first boss

ok bro

btw nome answered

[fervent dune]

guys there is no need for this type of language! yall are all over 45 years old. remember

[turbid shuttle]

You said "fixates. That's it." This is not correct. There are more use cases than that, independent of storm shield.

[lusty grotto]

im not gonna engage with you

have fun

[turbid shuttle]

I saw. Irrelevant. Go rage somewhere else.

[tender reef]

I'm also in all tank discords

[lusty grotto]

you might need to apply it to yourself

youre the one raging about tank discords

[tender reef]

[dark cosmos]

yikes

[fervent dune]

share other useful intervenes pls instead of just shitting on someone

[broken beacon]

hi. as far as i know ppl dont tank swap at silken court heroic i wanna know is there any tips and tricks to deal with piercing strikes of anub arash? last time i did it with guild we killed the boss but i died two times to heavy damage of piercing strikes i checked one of them hit around 11m tho i kinda think its maybe some kinda gearcheck fight like boss goes to phase just in time so you can drop the debuff.

[turbid shuttle]

Two examples off the top of my head: 1st boss NW retch. Shoots from archers in siege.

[tender reef]

I changed sudden death to more revenge dmg yesterday feels mega bad sadge pepego

[lusty grotto]

so if you feel like its great to Ackchually like an idiot, i dont think its necessary

but you do you

[dark cosmos]

Nobody wants to read this argument btw

[lusty grotto]

so block it

[simple drum]

I want to

[turbid shuttle]

I didn't shit on him at all, though he shit on me. I just added more useful examples.

[simple drum]

It’s my favourite argument ever made

[fervent dune]

thanks

[graceful kite]

it also intervenes throw flesh casts in nw

and shooters in siege...

[nocturne spindle]

Idk there's no reason not to swap. It's kinda weird to try and not swap if your having trouble

[proud hazel]

Wich one to take guys...

[earnest nymph]

dude

[dark cosmos]

Our tanks swapped a couple times as needed, probably depends on your classes too. Just do what it takes to kill the boss yknow?

[earnest nymph]

Finger von Throngus sounds sooo much better than the English version

[turbid shuttle]

Generally any ranged shoot type ability will work, and it's common for them to double up and 1 shot people

[simple drum]

Finger Von Throngus is a crazy fucking name

[proud hazel]

oh 😄

[graceful kite]

wait until you learn how warlocks are called in german

[earnest nymph]

please share

[nocturne spindle]

Tanks do like nothing on court heroic anyway

[lusty grotto]

intervene works on any physical hit, they were asking about specific abilities, if you want to clarify for it, we can start naming stuff you could in the past so that they understand how it works, how FH captains needed to be interveneable in high tyrannical during BFA

[graceful kite]

hexenmeister

[lusty grotto]

etc

[earnest nymph]

lmaooo

[earnest nymph]

of course. That's amazing

[lusty grotto]

so of course, it works on throw flesh and arrow shots

[broken beacon]

yeah it make sense ty

[tawdry dirge]

is it usfull to macro demolish into TR?

if so is there any nice macro out?

[high wyvern]

I see the word “meister” a lot in German language, does it have a meaning?

[proud hazel]

Master

[lusty grotto]

and it worked on hunter shots in BH, and it worked on fixates on Fenryr, and it worked on fixates throughout DH

[simple drum]

I think it means Gay but not sure

[lusty grotto]

and it worked on fixates in treemouth

[graceful kite]

SIege and nw are in rotation now

so I think it's useful info

[high wyvern]

💀

[turbid shuttle]

They asked for a list. You said it doesn't't matter. "All fixates. That's it". This is incorrect. I pointed this out and added some additional examples, which actually answers the question. Dunno why you're raging.

[dark cosmos]

You can try to preplan and rotate your CDs better but theres only so many buttons you can press sometimes, depends on gear and externals and if you have aug scales/earth shield/etc etc too of course, lots of factors

[earnest nymph]

bravo

[lusty grotto]

dont reply to me

[fervent dune]

HAHAHAHAA

bro

[high wyvern]

Lol whats going on

[fervent dune]

why are wow players so socially awkward

[proud hazel]

So i take Raid trinket? Oo

[dark cosmos]

Ya this is actually wild

[fervent dune]

how is this argument a thing XDDDDDDDDD

[graceful kite]

you have no other options?

Raid trinket is better

[fervent dune]

dont reply to me he says lmaoooooooooooooo

[lusty grotto]

😄

[proud hazel]

not really no

[fervent dune]

thanks for everybody who helped me tho

[high wyvern]

There is a block feature if you really dont like someone

[dark cosmos]

hes working with that barren chest have mercy on him

[turbid shuttle]

Just typical nimchip rage. He gets mad when shown to be wrong.

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

youre not right buddy

you got called out

by the tank TCs lmao

get fucked

[high wyvern]

lets move on boys

[fervent dune]

How do i fix the duskthread lining bug? does it not stack?

[lusty grotto]

reset the buff

[graceful kite]

I can socket crafted item right?

[lusty grotto]

just go below 80% hp

[fervent dune]

ty

[lusty grotto]

and it'll fix itself

[graceful kite]

with thingy from vault

[nocturne spindle]

Yes they'll stay

[graceful kite]

gotta decide

[simple drum]

What’s your favourite strain of weed?

[nocturne spindle]

Larynx pretty good

And it's getting buffed

[turbid shuttle]

I don't smoke anymore.

[merry sluice]

blue crayons

[turbid shuttle]

Don't reply to me.

Mwahi effectively agreed with me. Nome just threw empty personal attacks with no rebuttal.

[potent tree]

I mean. U said one example it was already said and then u said it also works on shoots in siege. Not sure if adding one example classifies as a list

[turbid shuttle]

I don't have a list. Rather than saying "your question is stupid go away" I added the examples I had off the top of my head.

[plush tendon]

I like Lyranx, especially cause belt is a craft slot

unless you looking at bracers/cloak craft

[graceful kite]

I have a socketed hc belt

THinking about picking a socket and crafting bracers

[lusty grotto]

mwahi def didnt agree with you

[graceful kite]

to socket those bracers

[potent tree]

Idk just feels weird u are saying someone is wrong because u said what it was already said. Feels like u dropped in the conversation just to try to say he was wrong. New on the discord, but that is what it seems like based on your message

[plush tendon]

I mean, Lyranx is pretty cool

[lusty grotto]

but it is what it is

[plush tendon]

what you rocking trinket wise?

[graceful kite]

I didn't know its getting buffed

[lusty grotto]

whatever makes him feel better, if hes gonna go into every single tank discord and bitch about "their states", that catches on

[turbid shuttle]

I've only ever posted in 2 discords...

[plush tendon]

Lyranx is up there in power

[graceful kite]

Before buffs which I didn't check yeat larynx 939 was the same dps as broodsac

639*

[plush tendon]

now take bloodmallet with a grain of salt, but it is nice for a reference point

[potent tree]

Really? U know by how much?

[graceful kite]

I checked it on bloodmallet

Guess they updated

[turbid shuttle]

Mwahi said I was correct about rage and shield block uptime, but (incorrectly imo) claimed you'd need to hold shield charge. You do not. So...

[plush tendon]

I think you have decnet options

I feel like socket this week would be a waste

even myth track belt would be a better long term investment then just sockie

but thats me

[lusty grotto]

yeah i agree

[turbid shuttle]

If you think I'm factually incorrect about something feel free to say where and why. Personal attacks are not rebuttals.

[lusty grotto]

socket is just a choice if you only have hero loot in vault and can push higher

[plush tendon]

can you two get a room

[lusty grotto]

ive been done for a while

[plush tendon]

we talking vaults here

[plush tendon]

[nocturne spindle]

Guys I'm still salty I picked myth track of the bugged 1h weapon with less strength

Make blizz fix it

[shrewd plinth]

I mean if you intend to mythic raid, just take the item with the biggest ilvl boost to save as many crests as possible

Gear will eventually fall into your lap for valourstone upgrades*

[potent tree]

Blizzard cannot even finish maintenance in time for the past 3 weeks

[lusty grotto]

yeah i think that's Augusto's point

[earnest nymph]

at least actually read what was said if you're going to keep talking. They said "Using SC as a "let me keep SB" up CD means you are going to be sitting on it..a lot."

meaning you don't ever play SC for SB uptime

[turbid shuttle]

That's exactly my point. You don't need to sit on it. Just send it. SB stacks.

[nocturne spindle]

Zug zug brain if CD available click it

[earnest nymph]

up to a cap, sure. which means you can't assume that you're always getting the full duration SB uptime out of the button press in your arguments in the past

whereas with bolster, you do

[turbid shuttle]

It stacks 3x duration. You'd need to SB twice insta, followed by multiple SS back to back, to make SC over cap you.

[plush tendon]

I do wonder when the first couple of bosses on mythic will be puggable

first is kind of a pain though

[turbid shuttle]

Just don't send multiple SB back to back and you cannot over cap SB ever.

[lusty grotto]

we've had a couple of people pugging them

at least i remember a few people mentioning it

[plush tendon]

I feel like if you can get through 1st and 2nd

3rd and 4th arent that big of a step up

[lusty grotto]

yea

you can

[plush tendon]

ive been bringing my warrior for Rasha reclear now

its night and day how much better it is compared to BDK

[earnest nymph]

ah, right, thank you for explaining how shield block works. doesn't change anything about what Mwahi, myself, or others have said

[turbid shuttle]

How so? You cannot over cap SB with SC unless you first burn all your SBs for no reason. Just don't send 2x SB. Go SC SB and sit on the remaining SB charge. Why is this wrong?

[plush tendon]

yo, this convo is giving up sus vibes; no cap, straight ohio rizz

[turbid shuttle]

You don't need to hold SC to prevent overcapping. You can just send it.

Ultimately, SC + bulwark gives more rage, more shield block, and more prio damage than ravager + bolster.

[earnest nymph]

okay I think maybe I missed some context to this argument

[turbid shuttle]

The context is what to drop for BSV if you want it. SC + bulwark or ravager + bolster. The current rec from this discord is to take ravager + bolster, and I am arguing this is worse for the above reasons.

[violet ginkgo]

How so?

[tender reef]

damage

Sorry couldn't help myself ignore me 👍

[soft aspen]

all has same damage

[tender reef]

No

[soft aspen]

yes very similar

[plush tendon]

the tank dot

taking two stacks on warrior

we chillin

take two stacks on BDK....

[soft aspen]

which dot

[tender reef]

Rashans dot

For the tanks

The rashans tank dot

[plush tendon]

fighting for my life

[violet ginkgo]

I thought... BDK was supposed to be stonks against somekind of dots?

[merry sluice]

that tank buster fucking shatters bdk

[limpid ruin]

It’s based on the initial damage taken

[plush tendon]

the dot strength is based on damage taken

so I can force myself to live

[violet ginkgo]

Aaaah....

[limpid ruin]

I take 10% of the phys he does post ip

[plush tendon]

with lots of death strikes

[soft aspen]

just pop defensive

[violet ginkgo]

yeah well sure we only take super little damage

[plush tendon]

then he just flys away

[limpid ruin]

He can press his entire kit and that’s just ip plus d stance lol

[plush tendon]

^

[soft aspen]

kek

[limpid ruin]

Less actually

[plush tendon]

also, the movement

[violet ginkgo]

ahhh the slowass tank yeah ask druid to roar so you can run or warlock gate

[merry sluice]

bear and warrior are god on that fight
dw, just throw them on mythic broodtwister beforehand

[plush tendon]

I can gate and leap on war

[merry sluice]

holy shit broodtwister is so ass of a fight

[plush tendon]

my DK, I gate then Im hauling ass with the priests

trying to make it

[merry sluice]

hear me out

[violet ginkgo]

I haven't try the heroic, we just kill ky'veza but continue next sunday on this boss.

[plush tendon]

but good thing I have both

[merry sluice]

im eating all the blue crayons with this one

[plush tendon]

now @limpid ruin has to play BDK too

[merry sluice]

cycle a sikrans to give you the F A T move speed boost before boss flies away

[high wyvern]

Prot is good i wonder why its not used even once in RWF i guess no good utility

[merry sluice]

big brain

[lusty grotto]

because they already have warriors

if fury or arms were garbage, you would see a lot more prot warriors in RWF

due to battle shout

[merry sluice]

dont forget all the a d d fights

holy fuck the a d d s

[plush tendon]

they needed druid and monk buff

[high wyvern]

Mark of the wild is so OP huh

[plush tendon]

and double fury was stonks

[potent tree]

Because bear was the only playable Druid in raid but warrior had good dps to bring

[lusty grotto]

its not whether its op or not

[merry sluice]

dw, bdk gets to feel special on broodtwister, and some comps for court though

🙂

[lusty grotto]

its that they need to fill all buffs

[high wyvern]

Echo played boomkin

[lusty grotto]

and thats why naowh played prot pally

[plush tendon]

honestly.... I wish it wasnt needed

broodtwister is a prison

of pain

[lusty grotto]

with tanks balanced, you pick whichever tank brings the buff you're missing

thats it

[plush tendon]

[potent tree]

Warrior dmg profile was also great in raid

[high wyvern]

Even prot pally?

[merry sluice]

i don't mind diff specs being strong for diff fights
biased though ig

but bdk is only good on brood bc of how utterly dogshit broodtwister is

[high wyvern]

[potent tree]

And u can play arms for the ST fights

[lusty grotto]

BDKs being useful due to grips, but on Queen you actually do not want a BDK gripping

prot pally can help yes

[plush tendon]

slappyhands is off the bars in p3

[lusty grotto]

spellwarding, etc

[potent tree]

Fury was crazy good on brood and spider lady

[lusty grotto]

freedoms

[potent tree]

And that was after nerfs

[plush tendon]

Prot Paladin is also cool cause you can freedom webs in p1

[high wyvern]

Give warrior more utility

[plush tendon]

and interrupts p3 maybe?

[merry sluice]

not watching a frost dk grip the stunny freezy fox bastard in on the party in a mists...

tbf

[plush tendon]

but I dont think people wanna play Prot Paladin yet

[merry sluice]

i can also just wraith walk myself out of webs

[potent tree]

That is my favorite, honestly

[plush tendon]

I think once the .5 patch comes around people's opinions on it will change

[potent tree]

Let the fury warriors pad their meters dude

[merry sluice]

I used to be a paladin enjoyer
but df said no
then tww said no
then hero talents said no

so i will not touch that god forsaken class

even with the patch

[plush tendon]

but.... HD judgement

[high wyvern]

Ret is pretty good no?

[lusty grotto]

yes

but it doesnt have spellwarding

and you dont want a ret dropping WoGs

thats a damage loss

[merry sluice]

templar makes me want to vomit
and lightsmith is still lame

[dusky canopy]

The problem with ret paladin is then people expect you to freedom,sac,bop people

Couldn’t be me I’m Zuggin

[merry sluice]

the problem with ret paladin is i hate dpsing

[dusky canopy]

[high wyvern]

Surprise Veng is still really good after such heavy nerfs since DF

Their sigils got gutted

[merry sluice]

THE ANNEURYSM ITS COMING, AAA

[lusty grotto]

VDH defensiveness wasnt heavily nerfed

and it still brings chaos brand

[merry sluice]

cc was only part of the picture for vdh meta

[lusty grotto]

even if reduced to 3%

[merry sluice]

if u took out vdh dps, chaos brand, mobility, and self healing

but slapped its cc onto a tank spec

that tank spec owuld not have magically been meta

[high wyvern]

VDH could solo perma cc a pack for a good 15s i swear in DF haha

[quasi pivot]

Literally happened last night to me on a 7, right as boss was close to dead. Was the green ghost hands thing.

[lusty grotto]

thats not why they were meta

[merry sluice]

SLAAPPY HAAANDS

feels real bad as a bdk on that fight

but then again, i also get to laugh when i do guild runs with my healer

i love amsing patty cake so i can terrify anyone im in vc with

ITS TECHNICALLY A DPS INCREASE TO NOT INTERRUPT IT

[dusky canopy]

Chaos brand was a nice bonus for the mage Aug in the group but the main reason VDH was meta is because they could completely solo CC a pull and remove the brain load on other party members

[merry sluice]

no one thing made vdh meta

[high wyvern]

Shit was OP af

[lusty grotto]

no

[merry sluice]

if vdh had only one aspect of its kit it wouldn't have been meta
strong player for sure, but meta is overselling it

[lusty grotto]

vdh was meta for a lot of things, not just 1 thing

uncapped damage

chaos brand for the SP

[dusky canopy]

the main reason

Yes

[lusty grotto]

no

[high wyvern]

So whats the main reason

[lusty grotto]

stops dont matter as much when packs last long

there's no main reason

its a combination of them

[oblique garnet]

They matter more

[high wyvern]

Cuz literally everyone said unless blizzard changes how mob casting work, VDH will be forever meta, which blizzard literally did

And then also nerf their sigils

[lusty grotto]

yes and now silence is even better

and yet

yet....

are people playing VDH?

[dusky canopy]

No because it can’t live anymore

[lusty grotto]

its defensiveness didnt change

[dusky canopy]

It’s CC did

[merry sluice]

if u wanna die

u go play prot paladin

that's the 'squishy tank'

[vale karma]

people are def playing VDH, there are some in top 30 keys even

[lusty grotto]

brew, its cc was for the party living, not the vdh itself

[dusky canopy]

True yes

[high wyvern]

Tanks were so OP in DF

Legit cant die

So OP in fact healer were not needed in MDI

[plush tendon]

they are playing it

[lusty grotto]

i was making a hyperbole

[plush tendon]

but we'll see in a month of two

[vale karma]

and I am fun at parties 😄

[plush tendon]

I still think we are up for another class tuning

[high wyvern]

I think the meta tank will most likely be bears

[lusty grotto]

you guys are ackchuallying me so hard

vdh numbers dont compare to s3 and s4

[plush tendon]

well... VDH S3/S4 was oppressive

prob the most oppressive a tank has ever been

[high wyvern]

Been seeing all top tier group runnning: Bear - Res Shaman - DK - Mage - Aug

[dusky canopy]

Glad to see them nocked down a notch

Level the playing field

[vale karma]

I've seen some warrior + boomking as well @high wyvern

[dusky canopy]

Linc does high M+ as fury

So does Crit

[lusty grotto]

yes augusto thats what exaggerating means when i ask "are people playing VDH?" smh my head

[dusky canopy]

Just won’t be meta

[tulip remnant]

Burnout on VDH has to be a factor as well. Being allowed to ONLY play that sucks. Tanks can have fun on other specs now

[lusty grotto]

tanks were all fine in DF

people just hard focused on the meta

its not a now thing

vegan kept pushing as bear

sense and others kept pushing as prot

[high wyvern]

VDH was giga busted come on

[lusty grotto]

andy kept pushing as prot pally

[vale karma]

this season none of the tanks are busted, agree?

Warr, bear are good, but not insane or anything

[high wyvern]

I mean if ur an insane players anything can works, but theres a reason no one play anything but VDH for 1 year straight in MDI / TGP

[lusty grotto]

no tanks were busted in DF, VDH just fit better

yes because SP was broken and you need chaos brand

to buff them

[tulip remnant]

Prot Pali needs love. VDH kinda mid. The rest have niche places where they do well.

[lusty grotto]

picking VDH meant, you buff your godlike dps class, and you have all of the tools available to perform

when its not SP, it was mage, and vice versa

[vale karma]

mage dk aug is still meta tho

nothing changed

[lusty grotto]

dk wasnt meta in DF

[fringe igloo]

hi guys, is there anywhere here i could check better embellishments for m+?

[vale karma]

well yeh, I meant mage and aug I guess 😄

[high wyvern]

When hasnt Mage been meta

[merry sluice]

and i've yet to find a single good mage player

[high wyvern]

Cant remember a season where Mage wasnt meta or at least A tier

[lusty grotto]

BFA

[dusky canopy]

Believe it or not mage has a high skill cap

[lusty grotto]

until S4 i guess

[dusky canopy]

That’s why you rarely see one that performs like the ones on the rwf streams

[high wyvern]

Isnt arcane kinda tricky to play compare to other dps specs

[urban portal]

yea it is

arcane has been bad for a LONG time

dont mind it being good for 1 tier

[high wyvern]

Me as fury press buttons that lights up

[lusty grotto]

arcane is easier now though

[merry sluice]

i've yet to see a mage perform at a 'mid' level

[vale karma]

do you see a lot of arcanes? I've been mostly seeing frost

[lusty grotto]

easier than previous iterations at least

[high wyvern]

Frost is pretty easy tho

[merry sluice]

fotm specs ftw whooOOOO

[dusky canopy]

Yeah I’m a glowy button spec enjoyer myself

[tulip remnant]

What’s “mid” level?

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

i mean easy compared to its own iterations, not versus other mage specs

[merry sluice]

idk what is mid

[high wyvern]

You cant watch Firedup POV and expect all mage to be like that

[lusty grotto]

frost has been the easiest one to play for a while

[merry sluice]

idek who the fuck firedup is

[lusty grotto]

out of the 3

[merry sluice]

i just except my dps to not tie me in dps, and/or fail to use cc/personals

[plush tendon]

[merry sluice]

which mages, as many flavour of the month classes, consistently fail to do

[high wyvern]

GOAT mage

[plush tendon]

imfiredup is liquid's mage

if you ever watch Max's stream during the race, youll watch his gameplay

he's so god damn clean

[merry sluice]

I just watch the pretty colours fly around until boss dies in race and go on with my day

[high wyvern]

This man has every mechanics and assignments in the world and still top dps somehow

[merry sluice]

maybe grab some crayons to munch on on the side

[plush tendon]

imfiredup is a joy to watch play

[lusty grotto]

and he has played arcane on some tiers where arcane was garbage

[plush tendon]

and I dont even play mage

[high wyvern]

Theres a clip of some insane plays in sepulche

But he doesnt really do M+

Only raid i think

[plush tendon]

he could M+ if he wanted to

[high wyvern]

https://youtu.be/UBC0OzfOyDA?si=hm59HNM8NuwePJj1

This movement was still crazy

[waxen frigate]

I could bang Erga’s mom if I wanted to

[plush tendon]

bet you could; you got that Skibiddi Rizz

[lusty grotto]

augusto sounds like this gif

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-30rock-fellow-kids-one-of-us-gif-21904018

[plush tendon]

for real, no cap

[high wyvern]

Feel like a boomer but wtf is skibidi riz

[lusty grotto]

kinda like fanum taxing leftovers

🙂

see gif above

[fresh igloo]

Can you sim tank? Or is DPS sim good enough?

[outer carbon]

guys sidewinder kinda sucks does it atleast give me more rage?

if not im thinking of just not ujsing it for keys

[plush tendon]

you can just sim for dps

[sweet summit]

what the hell is sidwinder

[slim garden]

Is this trinket any good? got pretty crapy choises from vaut

[mighty valley]

this might be a translation thing, what is sidewinder?

[outer carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/BOkba8e.png

sidearm sry

[high wyvern]

Is skibidi dance like the fortnite dance

[sweet summit]

it's just free damage

[ornate thicket]

Imfiredup castle nathria plays were nutty too

[outer carbon]

i guess ya

[mighty valley]

yeah it's barely anything but you gotta put something there

[outer carbon]

the dmg is so low

[plush tendon]

it has something to do with a toilet

I dont understand the context though

[high wyvern]

???

Skibidi - dance - toilet

[plush tendon]

[mighty valley]

we cannot possibly explain skidibi toilet here, search it on youtube if you want to learn this generation's brainrot

[high wyvern]

My generation was TrollFace

[mighty valley]

yeah we all enjoy some stupid shit as youths

this is theirs

[eager geode]

What would you pick ?

[high wyvern]

Any clips i didnt follow the race then

[ornate thicket]

Google artificer xymox imfiredup

[plush tendon]

those are some good options... Id prob take Shard?

but maybe sim

the other two pieces are just mythic tier

but Shard is pretty good

[ornate thicket]

He does like 2 or 3 seeds in one play lol

Like his alter time play is fucking nuts lol

[high wyvern]

GOAT shits

[ornate thicket]

Hahaha

[lusty grotto]

jb is the best wow tweet guy

nobody else comes close

[high wyvern]

Hes the GOAT of shit post

[lusty grotto]

it not shit posting if hes right 😉

[lusty grotto]

[lofty veldt]

hello gamers

[tawdry cloak]

You can catalyze any mythic shoulder or leg into tier in future vaults. You can only get that trinket in 1/x rolls.

[high wyvern]

I got a back piece for my myth track item

[unreal oriole]

you guys also experiencing a bug where if you shield charge in the middle of a normal charge, the shield charge only goes partly off?

[lusty grotto]

that happens if you have obstacles

[unreal oriole]

i get shield block from champions bulwark, but no rage from shield charge and no dmage

[lusty grotto]

or z-axis changes

[unreal oriole]

seems to happen every time for me unless i hold my shield charge till the end of the animation of charge

[lusty grotto]

most of us use it a melee range already so its not something we notice, but it has been talked about here since DF

we dont use shield charge to charge

or as a gap closer

[unreal oriole]

i see

[lusty grotto]

but yes, it happens

[unreal oriole]

it just seems like the best way to engage when you have 0 rage, cause charge itself is not enough to get shield block up

[lusty grotto]

like i mentioned, its been talked about in the past

[tawdry dirge]

any good demolish makro out ther

[lusty grotto]

ideally you want to avatar + charge, and thats enough for SB, if chain pulling you will have left over rage anyway

we just prio SC after damage buffs and debuffs are out

like avatar + demo

[high wyvern]

Really want to grab disrupting shout but i cant let go of bloodsurge

[signal holly]

not using dark mode is the real problem here

[lusty grotto]

its not a huge loss

so play whichever you need

[unreal oriole]

i'll send a bug report and hope for a fix, but in the meantime i guess i gotta git gut🤷🏿‍♂️

[pearl herald]

What are you guys using as talents for this weeks affix? Wrecking?

[lusty grotto]

no

no changes to talents

but if you feel that you need it, you can drop sidearm for it i guess

[tawdry dirge]

in wanted to makro demolish with TR but it dosnt really work

[lusty grotto]

yes because both are GCDs

so it will never work

[tawdry dirge]

ah okay thanks for that info

so no good thing to macro it into or maybe into shout?

[lusty grotto]

no

[tawdry dirge]

😢

[jagged gust]

Especially because of the CDR you don't really want to macro it in to anything regardless of if its on a gcd or not

[mighty valley]

i'm not sure why you'd want to macro demolish into something else even if it was possible, don't want to be rooted in place by surprise

[tawdry seal]

anyone else having troubles in stonevault on skarmorak? affix give him reduced damage while shield phase, very hard to break

[tribal wharf]

we wiped to him on my +4 last night

but my group was brain dead anyways

[tawdry seal]

im on +9 now, frekin impossible

[tribal wharf]

wiped before first boss on tyranical only somehow, and left at least 1 mole hill alive each spawn on the boss

it could have been i didnt let healer have mana, but i high doubt that

since we had shaman, so i assume tremor totem (not a shaman main dunno if its in thier main tree), and we got feared, is how wiped

[sweet summit]

it's so fucked lol

[violet ginkgo]

isn't generally stonevault... not a pleasant dungeon?

[sweet summit]

nah it's chill

[clever chasm]

what would be ideally to pick here? i already got the scarab trinket on LFR - and i crafted a shield ilvl 619.

is it worth to potentially waste that spark and pick the myth shield becuase its higher ilvl in the long end?

[violet ginkgo]

insta pick myth shield yeah

insta 639 if possible

[clever chasm]

yeah prob what im gonna do

[soft tusk]

can u make crafted gear into tier?

[wintry badger]

assistance here would be greatly appreciated 🙂 got sac and shard on hero track already for trinkets. should i switch to either one of those?

[violet ginkgo]

I don't think so prom, but I could be wrong

[soft tusk]

that Queen trinket

is OMEGA HUGE

[violet ginkgo]

I don't think you should switch but sim both ring first and the queen mandate.

[soft tusk]

did u get that from a prot open?

[violet ginkgo]

in anycase both ring are bad and you don't really like queen mandate then take socketing.

[soft tusk]

That trink is DPS only..

[wintry badger]

saw it on wowhead, simmed it but queen only came out on top in single target obv but not by a large margin, rings were never picked, neither on single nor on multi target

[wintry badger]

no i opened on arms so i would have a chance on queen 😄

[soft tusk]

exactly

take that trink brother

[violet ginkgo]

well there you go if you aim queen then take it

I mean you basically got what you want. Can always make it Sac+queen for single target and Sac+shard for multi

[sleek current]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tZXJe12Ww597rrpnB1YoUd/simc

Is 636 Mark of Khardros really... Only a 4k increase... or is the SIM using it incorrectly?

Just quickly simming it in the correct slot as I suspect that may be it.

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/C1ZRFzP.png

this affix is not okay

that affix alone slowed down the key by like 20-30%

[soft tusk]

for the most part is just gets cleaved..

[strong forum]

yeah uhuh

go and "just cleave" a 32mil HP mob which applies a dmg reduction to everything around you

🙂

[soft tusk]

EZ

[urban lotus]

Also the buff it gives is garbage

[strong forum]

that mob alone ate 813mil of our dmg by just existing in the key

[echo egret]

I could use the tier shoulders to get my 4p bonus, replacing champion track shoulders.
But I get the feeling a hero track trinket is a better choice... now which one ?

[remote dawn]

O.o zhe affix is crazy shit ? :d

[urban lotus]

20% cdr on 20 seconds is 4 seconds of cdr

[sleek current]

6.5k in the correct slot. That looks more reasonable. 😂

[strong forum]

its turbo shit

[urban lotus]

After 20 seconds

[tribal wharf]

what about macro for auto target healer with my intervene

[strong forum]

also its 50% CDR now

[remote dawn]

its the play to nuke down?

[urban lotus]

Ob is it?

[strong forum]

you have to nuke it down

[urban lotus]

9&

[tribal wharf]

i dont get hardly near enouh value from storm shield

[strong forum]

it applies damage reduction to all enemy mobs

the longer its up

[urban lotus]

Yeah

Pretty traha ngl

[strong forum]

re-clear heroic again

[remote dawn]

jesus

[tribal wharf]

or is intervene meant to be used on different people each time

[strong forum]

and see if you get shoulders

[strong forum]

it provides more than 0 value

its a 450k absorb

[tribal wharf]

right, no im not doubting that

[lusty grotto]

yo nome

[strong forum]

yo nim

[tribal wharf]

• uihhh i cant recall the name but the first boss does it they go right aggro on the player instead immune to taunt shit

[lusty grotto]

ED / HR / SoF colossus a good call for keys?

[strong forum]

yes

[lusty grotto]

or just full on exe

[tribal wharf]

and then the block

[lusty grotto]

cause i played full on exe and i forgot that i had it and oof

[strong forum]

last week i actually swapped back to HR instead of ITF

cuz i had SO MUCH BLOCK DOWNTIME

cuz of missing haste affix

[lusty grotto]

punish also since not executing

[strong forum]

correct

[tribal wharf]

im not downplaying stormshield / intervene im saying is it good idea to just do that on healer so i can just send in on cd

or is this like warcrime

[strong forum]

whoever is getting blasted

[lusty grotto]

aight im gonna send another key and see

[strong forum]

theres an m+ build on wowhead

for colossus

[lusty grotto]

oh

let me see how far off i was lol

[tulip oar]

It feels a little clunky compared to Thane.

[strong forum]

i enjoy colossus

BUT

do not play it in siege or grimbatol

basically keys where theres alot of unblockable damage

you dont wanna play colossus

colossus is good in ara kara or mists

but in siege it was painful

i did almost 1mil overall but i didnt feel comfortable ngl

[lusty grotto]

hmm you sure nome? i dont see it

the build

[lusty grotto]

ah

[toxic pewter]

that a nice build list

sweet

[lusty grotto]

ok i wasnt far off at all

[hoary crystal]

Pretty new tank noobie here, got the delve shield it looks very shitty or is it good compared to a equal ilvl shield?

[strong forum]

if its your highest ilvl its usable