protection

[forest spruce]

is there any weak aura to help know when to use spell ref

[wicked pollen]

its mainly used for dps but https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9/

[forest spruce]

thank you

[round cliff]

is mashing out 8 zekvirs optimal or should i be trying to get maps

or can zekvir drop maps

[forest spruce]

the othere on was was woundering if anyone had was a WA to help keep track of shield block times

[native flume]

I really wish colossus had some kind of buff to rage gen, feels gated behind higher gear levels since it’s so much more rage starved at 610

[simple drum]

Is there one for Spell Block as well?

[native flume]

My itemization also isn’t ideal for it, but damn the pack damage on it feels so much better

[wicked pollen]

no you use the spreadsheet in pins

[simple drum]

How come it doesn’t go both ways?

[wicked pollen]

did you read what i put before i linked the weakaura

or

[simple drum]

The ‘getting better at routes by doing them’ bit?

[wicked pollen]

its mainly used for dps

[simple drum]

Spell Block is?

[wicked pollen]

spell reflect

its a spell reflect aura

[simple drum]

Okay, so you misunderstood my question then

When I ask why doesn’t it go both ways, I’m asking why Spell Reflect has a weakaura that tells us when to use it, but Spell Block doesn’t and we should be ‘checking the spreadsheet’

Wouldn’t it make sense to have a weakaura for both spells regardless of whether it’s for dps or not?

[junior patio]

i would like that

[hoary pivot]

What do you mean by „mostyl for DPS“?

[ashen owl]

How do you pull the extra pack through the wall at the start of the mists maze?

[violet ginkgo]

Just think it like a part to keep your memory sharp by remembering things that can be spellblocked.

[shrewd ore]

either via pet or boomy by jump flapping

[hoary pivot]

With a pet class by hugging the wall until you see nameplates and ordering your pet to attack one of the plates

[ashen owl]

Ah thanks

[velvet knot]

Question. Is it the tanks job to get all the crystals on Skarmorak? Because the dps were ignoring them outright

[round cliff]

no lol

[shrewd ore]

no ofc not

[hoary pivot]

It is not, everyone should do them

[shrewd ore]

but prot has decent dmg on them easy to swap

[velvet knot]

I was hard-focusing the shards and we got overwhelmed by them.

[round cliff]

how am i supposed to split crafted gear between the 2h i need for raid dps and the prot shit i need for dungeons

[velvet knot]

Then they raged at me for not killing the shards.

[shrewd ore]

from what i saw some ppl only kill 2 per wave

and then just burst the shield

[round cliff]

sounds like azralon players

[shrewd ore]

if ur good with coordinating the dps buff

[velvet knot]

Sargares

[zealous goblet]

what the fuck is that ui its kinda sexy

[round cliff]

i have it

hold up

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/details-skin-the-war-within/comments

[shrewd elm]

im stuck on race xD i prefer bigger characters instead of dwarfs, is the racial really that much better?

[zealous goblet]

pog cheers may many women swoon over you and your enemies burn

[round cliff]

racials barely matter

if u like a diff race better pick it

stoneform is good but not as good as looking good

[velvet knot]

It was a very sketchy run, the DK kept pulling stuff and wiping the group because I wasn't 'pulling enough'

[round cliff]

block this mf

and report him for breaking tos

[zealous goblet]

the only big ones that i KNOW of is human and dwarf. humans can pretend they didnt grief a stun mechanic every 3 mins and dwarf can cleanse poisons and stuff once every... 2 mins i think? someone correct me. but retail ahs made efforts to make racials less impactful than classic

[simple drum]

I get that keeping your memory sharp has value but it’s not really the point. Again, I don’t understand why there can’t just be a rotation helper or weakaura that can tell us when to Spell Block. There’s a weakaura for literally anything else that requires some amount of reactivity. Why not when to use Spell Block

[zealous goblet]

so basically just play what looks cool

[graceful kite]

its infinitely better because other racials are useless

but it's not a dealbreaker

[thin pecan]

Can anyone reccomend a w/a which plays an audio ping if I take a melee to the back or while SB is down?

[round cliff]

the ping is ur character dying

gg

[round pendant]

Because someone would have to make it

[velvet knot]

wheeze

[round cliff]

SB is 100% uptime dont let it be down

[graceful kite]

never say anything potentially negative in a pug

recipe for disaster

just pick crystals and save cds for shield

[velvet knot]

Just begging for a crum of help on the crystals

[graceful kite]

bad idea

[simple drum]

Isn’t it a 90 second cooldown and is up for 30 seconds?

[round cliff]

wat

[graceful kite]

expect pugs to be psychotic bipolar and high on drugs all time

[faint maple]

Hello! For new born protwar, can you explain if I need to use macro shield slam + ignore pain? Or it useless?

[round cliff]

its ur active mitigation

[elfin garden]

thats spell block

shield block iis up 100% of the time

[velvet knot]

Macro ignore pain with shield slam yes.

[simple drum]

Spell Block yeah

[graceful kite]

you use shield slam by itself and macto shield slam to ignore pain

[velvet knot]

#showtooltip
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Shield Slam

[graceful kite]

so you minmax not wasting a proc

[zealous goblet]

don't do that, you will probably accidentally rage starve

just send an ignore pain when you hit 70 rage

[round cliff]

its easy to not rage starve

u just have to be smart about it

[velvet knot]

Just dont spam revenge like a monkey

And you wont rage starve

[round cliff]

^

[graceful kite]

you don't have to be smart to play protwar

[zealous goblet]

i just meant using that macro

[faint maple]

I need to be strong?

[round cliff]

yea, the macro doesnt make u rage starve

[velvet knot]

I personally find the macro very useful.

[zealous goblet]

then i must be missing something

[round cliff]

the macro makes u rage minmax

because ur not missing shield slam procs

[faint maple]

Thank you:)

[velvet knot]

Put the shield slam macro where you usually put ignore pain.

But keep shield slam on your bars too

[faint maple]

Okay thanks

[velvet knot]

Heres mine for example.

[zealous goblet]

sorry walk me through this, wym? i don't think i miss shield slam procs while pressing ignore pain

[round cliff]

if ur auto attack procs a shield slam reset right when u go to press something else

u wasted a gcd on not pressing shield slam

so u press macro right before pressing smth else

[zealous goblet]

OH I GRIEFED i inverted the order of the casts in my head on the macro

[round cliff]

if shield slam HAPPENS to proc in that exact moment

then you shield slam instead

of what u planned to do

[sweet summit]

this is fine if you macro SS to IP, but not IP to SS
it's used to snipe SS resets as it's a very high prio ability

[velvet knot]

Ignore pain before shield slam so you dont munch rage

[zealous goblet]

and was thinking "no fucking way you'll go into rage debt because you generate 21 and spend 35"

yeah i get it now

[round cliff]

so what u do is

[zealous goblet]

like i said i misordered it in my head

[round cliff]

say u want to press shield slam, then tblast

u press shield slam as normal

in the later half of the gcd u press IP macro

then you press tblast as normal

[wicked pollen]

it will tell you to reflect things that you shouldnt use it on

as a tank

[round cliff]

if god blesses u with a proc, you'll press SS because u pressed IP macro before tblast

while not actually wasting gcds

or reacting

u understand?

[graceful kite]

you can write a reflect weakaura for yourself

its just not needed

[velvet knot]

I actually might need some help modernizing my prot weakauras, are there any new procs we need to keep an eye out for?

[graceful kite]

seeing red, outburst, revenge

[wicked pollen]

luxthos aui

[round cliff]

luxthos ui is goated

i got luxthos UI and then de-slopped it a bit

[graceful kite]

luxthos is bad for fps afaik

[round cliff]

because it tracks a LOT of slop

[round cliff]

if ur not playing on an intel inside™️ core i-3 then u will be ok

[zealous goblet]

https://wago.io/DoctorioWarriorProtection

[graceful kite]

I can't remember exact numbers but I think in chonked like 20

[zealous goblet]

here's what i recommend

[velvet knot]

This is my WA setup right now that i made

[zealous goblet]

and use

[velvet knot]

Oh I make all my own

[graceful kite]

5800x3d

[velvet knot]

I dont like using others

[round cliff]

BLADESTORM?

[velvet knot]

ignore that

[graceful kite]

and elvui in raid chonks up to 100 fps btw

[round cliff]

you cant just say "i make my own" and then put bladestorm on a prot WA

[velvet knot]

i made a fury raid one too lol

[round cliff]

i will judge u

[violet ginkgo]

Prot bladestorm! I want the spin

[velvet knot]

the bladestorm replaces reflect when in fury

[graceful kite]

True meta is actionbars in the middle

[zealous goblet]

use whirlwind and spin suboptimally

[velvet knot]

okay lemme see what those do

[graceful kite]

make your shield slam big and cool

[velvet knot]

oh i dont take outburst

[zealous goblet]

i wonder what the highest key a prot warrior can do if they switched their entire core rotation with a grieftation. devastate, slam, and whirlwind

[zealous goblet]

please take outburst

[round cliff]

i got luxthos and then moved shit around to the left/right and cleaned up the utilities bar on the bottom

everything makes sense

[zealous goblet]

even if you don't track if for shield slams its yuge

[graceful kite]

fps killer

[round cliff]

you're griefing

[velvet knot]

Oh okay I was told it sucks

[round cliff]

???

u got griefed

[zealous goblet]

execute whoever said that

[round cliff]

outburst is SPEC DEFINING TALENT

[velvet knot]

This was the build the 2700 warrior i was asking uses.

[round cliff]

i didnt build this gamer rig just to worry about losing fps in a 20 year old mmo

[violet ginkgo]

15stacks jugg execute?

[round cliff]

the 2700 warrior u were talking to got boosted

he's shit at the game

sorry to inform u

[zealous goblet]

no, 20 rage talentless execute because no one who says that is worthy of more

[graceful kite]

it eats fps on any rig

[velvet knot]

Alright what do i change here then. This setup feels very rage starved and slow

[graceful kite]

code it a code and if its badly written it will suck on every rig

[round cliff]

BECAUSE ur not using GOOD TALENTS

[elfin garden]

look at wowhead taletns

[round cliff]

ok so i lose like 20 fps

[violet ginkgo]

Move BSV to Violent outburst

[round cliff]

im still at a comfy 144

[graceful kite]

same

[round cliff]

whats the issue here

xd

[graceful kite]

but my monitor is 165hz

[velvet knot]

ty

[round cliff]

mines 144!!

[zealous goblet]

my pc is 8 years old

its old enough t oget dms from discord mods

[round cliff]

mines 8 weeks old

im broke

[velvet knot]

Is wowhead considered a good source of information now then? I typically try to avoid written guides and just ask the top players i know.

[graceful kite]

yes

[velvet knot]

Okay ill get on that

ty

[round cliff]

the prot guide for wowhead is our very own nomeratur

[tender reef]

Based the balls to say that in the chat from the guy who made the guide

[round cliff]

yea lmao

mans runs this chat

[velvet knot]

I have no idea who that is sorry lmao

[tender reef]

[zealous goblet]

its probably because hes from classic. if he is. i was from classic. wowhead for classic and icyveins is actual pig slop

[round cliff]

is it

thats funny

[tender reef]

Classic is pig slop too

[round cliff]

is there somehow a way to craft something for fury, arms, AND prot

that has stats that all 3 like

[graceful kite]

no

[round cliff]

how tf do i split my sparks

😔

[tender reef]

Stats don't matter Item lvl does

[graceful kite]

you craft for whatever you raid in because it has logs

[tender reef]

Do wrists or belt

[wicked pollen]

you dont

[zealous goblet]

wowhead for classic had mfers tanking in glad stance or berserker or battle and dual wield tanking for SOD and consequentially bricking raid lockouts because surprise pug healers kinda... coin flip. pug dps.. kinda coinflip

[round cliff]

idk what i raid in since they're deleting fury from game in anniversary patch

[graceful kite]

arms

[tender reef]

Welcome to retail m+

[round cliff]

arms runs skullsplitter :(

[tender reef]

[round cliff]

might have to deal

[zealous goblet]

yes, but no. retail isn't telling people to perma sit in battle stance and taking into the fray and double bleed talents or some crazy shit

parse culture is fucking nuts in classic

[hoary pivot]

With the short CD, isn’t that a really rare case though? Is there a significant amount of pulls in which the WA will lead you to reflect spell A instead of a worse spell B in the same pull?

[tender reef]

No it's telling them to play mechanics and interrupt, but that doesn't happen either

And the complain about route you told them before. The run and call you brain dead

[zealous goblet]

the wowhead guide?

[tender reef]

Then leave

[zealous goblet]

im talking about wowhead guide

[tender reef]

Nah m+ pugs lol

[zealous goblet]

ok i see the miscommunication lmao

mb

[tender reef]

Yeah but classic doesn't matter lol 😂 "stand here for 5 min and press 1, okay next boss"

[zealous goblet]

yuo'd THINK THAT

I WAS THERE

[graceful kite]

I really liked classic warrior

tho I liked most of warrior iterations

classic leveling tanking on a warrior was insanely fun

[tender reef]

I did lvl tank warri in wotlk

Was great

[velvet knot]

Ok i adjusted my talents ty

[zealous goblet]

all classic would need is mythic+ and i'd eat like a king. i dont fucking care about raids and stuff

i love dungeons. i love them.

i'd like to play classic dungeons on a higher level.

[tender reef]

But classic dungeons suck and are not made with m+ in mind

[graceful kite]

I'd prefer classic dungeon to siege of boralus

[tender reef]

Also would get bug abused without end lol

[zealous goblet]

no of course they arent made with it in mind, but i'd like to push them to their limits

with minor fixes too

[graceful kite]

wailing caverns or deadmines m+ over siege all day

[tender reef]

Yeah that's too much work afaik

Siege is nice lol

[zealous goblet]

probably. 's why it's a wish

[graceful kite]

all dungeons now are hold w anyway so no reason to cry about planning routes

[wicked pollen]

if you dont think about it yes, example is grim batol 2nd boss area the weakaura will pop up and tell you to reflect a cast from one of the casters near the lava giant when as a tank you should save it for the tankbuster

[zealous goblet]

to be fair, classic dungeons were like that too if you went with a group who did it before

[tender reef]

What tank buster ?

[graceful kite]

I'm looking now and most classic dungeons are banger

[tender reef]

The Knickbach ?

[zealous goblet]

i loved wailing caverns but my first few times through it impatient people did dumb pulls expecting me to follow them

[graceful kite]

shadowfang keep stockade strat

[zealous goblet]

YO

AYO

STOCKADE M+?

[graceful kite]

all scarlet wings

[velvet knot]

what's the buff for free revenge called?

[graceful kite]

literally insanely peak fun and cool dungeons

[tender reef]

Broo id love some WOTLK dungeons in the m+

[zealous goblet]

i agree except for library. all paladin mobs stunned as a first gcd half the time :x

[velvet knot]

Oh it's literally just called 'Revenge!'

[zealous goblet]

loved graveyard and cathedral tho

[graceful kite]

I think I'd only dislike gnomer maraudon and maybe dire maul

and there are 13 other dungeons id like to do

[zealous goblet]

i actually don't mind gnomer

[graceful kite]

I think it wont be good as an m+

[zealous goblet]

maraudon is racist design tho

built to enslave people'

people's minds*

[graceful kite]

I never did maraudon after first trash pulls

even when I was a little boy I went in Maraudon travelled to it for like an hour seen the inside and just left

[jagged gust]

tbf mara felt like a freaking mega dungeon back in the ol days

[zealous goblet]

fellas

bigwigs or dbm

[strong forum]

Bigwigs if you want just timers

Dbm if you also want the timer to tell you what to do

[zealous goblet]

im just gonna try bigwigs for a small bit

i just wonder what everyone uses

[strong forum]

The higher you go the more people use bigwigs

I was a dbm user until I had severe performance issues on a boss because of dbm

Stuck with bigwigs ever since

This was however 3 expansions ago and surely these things don't happen anymore

[pallid quiver]

Bigwigs as a whole is also much more customizable

[zealous goblet]

oh actually while i have your attention mr guide writer

[pallid quiver]

So if you're willing to put the elbow grease in, Bigwigs is better overall

[zealous goblet]

do you happen to know off the top of your head how much rage an execute needs to outdamage the various parts of our core rotation

[strong forum]

APL says 70

[zealous goblet]

what the fuck is apl

[strong forum]

Action priority list

[zealous goblet]

oh

[strong forum]

On single target, the highest dmg outcome was sending execute at >=70 rage

[zealous goblet]

gotcha

because during some boss fights i get a little greedy

and neglect thunderclap

[strong forum]

Ye

As thane execute rotation can be a bit tricky

[zealous goblet]

and the question seems a little dumb, but for some reason half of my yellow numbers just dont show up so i dont get to see live feedback of bad choices. i miss half of my execute yellow hits

[strong forum]

You're only showing crits

Maybe

[zealous goblet]

i just have to log review, but i only see the average hit, and not if say a 20 rage execute was me being a dummy

anyways thanks for your tme

always a pleasure

i'm coming for your job

[gritty eagle]

its not worth doing delves for vault right? not really interesting from them i mean?

[strong forum]

If you can get hero track or above gear, yeah delve loot useless

[zealous goblet]

baseline loot from bountifuls is champion. if you get a map, hero. if you want achievements., do 'em

the higher level you get brann the easier zekvir ?? gets

[gritty eagle]

i meant for vault, i dont need 610 gear anyway

i will go for zekvir when the season "calms" down

[zealous goblet]

just remember to do it before the season ends

for that glorious

FEAT OF STRENGTH

not to be mistaken for Xal's feet of strength..

[tawdry dirge]

why is mark a dps trinket

and shard also a tank trinket?

[zealous goblet]

hey anyone else have tremendous issues contributing in a meaningful way to this week's orb affix? feels like i do more harm than good by moving the mobs around

[gritty eagle]

to make us think about loot spec

[tawdry dirge]

the basicly do the same?

[gritty eagle]

@zealous goblet y, sometimes its definately helpful to try and get them, and othertimes both adds/orbs start to act erratically when you move

generally speaking, i get the ones that are coming from the way im tanking and leave the others for the group.. and in certain scenarion when you have to step in shit to get them... ill do that

.. and if you play with a ranged group that dont care, you might have to get more than you want to 🙂

[zealous goblet]

i have to fight the voices in my head to try and help with cleave mobs especially

"do not spin the skeleton marauders.."

[jaunty jacinth]

Wait, does 2x Duskthread linings stack?

[gritty eagle]

y id assume so

[jaunty jacinth]

I'll relog, might be bugged

[gritty eagle]

bsl (pretty much the same), staked in df

you df you had to die for it work

[jaunty jacinth]

the buff's tooltip says otherwise 😄

[gritty eagle]

when you had 2 at the same time

i mean, just the first time

[jaunty jacinth]

ye

[gritty eagle]

@zealous goblet y, i sometimes have the same issues where i want to do everything myself and just end up messing things up, gotta learn the balance

[jaunty jacinth]

yup, it needs a health reset 😄

[gritty eagle]

y, same as df then

[wheat rivet]

if I have access to 619 shield but only have 606 weapon should I craft 636 shield anyway?

[orchid gulch]

Yes.

[gritty eagle]

do you have myth slots in your vault? might want to wait since reset is around the corner

otherwise, yes

[orchid gulch]

Shield is the most important piece of gear you can have, and where ilvl matters the most.

[zealous goblet]

I FINALLY GOT THE STUPID PORECLAIN ARROW HEAD UPGRADE. IT EXISTS

[wheat rivet]

ye that's a good point, I will have 2 myth slots

[zealous goblet]

100 DELVES LATER

[gritty eagle]

i would've considered going prot loot spec for vault then and crafting shield on reset if you dont get a shield in vault

[wheat rivet]

sounds good!

but would I pick myth shield over myth tier?

[orchid gulch]

Yes.

[gritty eagle]

uuh, yeah

[zealous goblet]

tier track does not affect tier set effect.

[gritty eagle]

tier kind of sucks

[zealous goblet]

so unless the actual armor piece is a big upgrade, then shield is ss tier

[orchid gulch]

Shield is always ss tier unless you have a myth track shield.

[wheat rivet]

ok, I know what to do now 🙂

[violet ginkgo]

You farm myth track shield now and upgrade it to max 639 ilvl

[zealous goblet]

friendly reminder 1st boss is piss easy and drops a shield

so try to send a mythic raid every now and then

the secondary stats aren't great though

[gritty eagle]

yeaah dont remind me, i guess even if youre pugging its time to start doing

[violet ginkgo]

Is myth raid already open to public aka pugging? I remember in DF i was few weeks before we can pug or that changed in TWW?

[gritty eagle]

oh i dont even know

[zealous goblet]

i saw mythic boe farms week 1

but im unsure how much that matters

[orchid gulch]

Yes,mythic is cross realm day 1 now.

Also cross faction.

[gritty eagle]

i would guess 2 boss kill pugs are up and running at this point

[strong forum]

If you can kill 2 you can kill 3

First 3 bosses are nearly identical in difficulty

[zealous goblet]

i feel like 2nd boss is a comm check

not DIFFICULT, but if your raid lead or tanks blow chunks then you're in trouble

*at social skill

[strong forum]

[zealous goblet]

shrug one more time frog boy

and i'll..

well fuck what do you consider a threat

[strong forum]

[zealous goblet]

warrior players are pretty robbed of any meaningful fear, and emotion

[strong forum]

No I think that's depression

[zealous goblet]

nome do you pug your keys or do you have a ring of cronies

[orchid gulch]

Depression is meta for warriors now?

[strong forum]

If you exclude S3 of DF, I've proper pugged less than 20 keys since bfa

I refuse to pug

S3 of DF was diff cuz I got ahead of the curve and actually enjoyed pushing as dps

[orchid gulch]

I also refuse to PUG, but I got no friends either.

So I begrudgingly PUG.

[strong forum]

I would just quit

Or find people

[orchid gulch]

Okay, I've got no good friends.

[strong forum]

Need to yap more on discord then

[zealous goblet]

make some

[strong forum]

Helped me

[zealous goblet]

or seduce puggers you deem not awful

[strong forum]

I yapped myself into getting money to yap about wow

Crazy how that works

[zealous goblet]

who pays you

do they have spare money

i can use some

i'm delightfully mentally challenged i can be court jester

[strong forum]

Yeah I've noticed

[pallid quiver]

I peek in just to see Nome takin' a swing

[strong forum]

Nah but do you think wowhead is freelance work nah fam

[pallid quiver]

my issue with just yapping in discord is that almost all my wow focused yapping is in this very specific channel

So I happen to meet a lot of people who also are playing Prot War.

The other issue is a lot of the people I like and would be able to play with are on the other side of an ocean.

blizz revolutionize international networking so i can play with eu no lag kthx

[graceful kite]

you can make an na account

or eu

I played with a guy from NY on eu and it was fine for him

[zealous goblet]

you are what you eat!!

wait no wrong saying..

[zealous goblet]

run 4 prot warriors and 1 healer then

[pallid quiver]

coward

It's 5 tank or bust

[zealous goblet]

who the fuck is gonna brez

[pallid quiver]

who needs a brez

[zealous goblet]

i aint going to your fucking corpse melee range with jumper cables

[pallid quiver]

you've got 5 tanks

[zealous goblet]

statistically speaking

one out of five tanks hits the paint fumes too hard before dungeoning

[pallid quiver]

Those are the most capable tanks

You simply need to find five of the paint fumers

[zealous goblet]

i know because some dungeons i look at my screen mouth open while a frontal is casting and go "oh!"

and i pop shield wall and eat it

[round cliff]

ok so if arms likes crit haste

and prot likes haste crit

does that still not solve my splitting sparks problem

[graceful kite]

it does if you craft armor and not weapons

[round cliff]

well u craft 1 weapon w/ a thing on it

and u need an armor for the thing that buffs the thing

right?

[graceful kite]

I don't think crafts are that important

if you're doing 10 vault keys you don't need anything

[round cliff]

im not doing 10 vault keys

[graceful kite]

I haven't done my 3rd craft or upgraded my shield from 619 cuz who cares

[round cliff]

wym 10 vault keys

[graceful kite]

8 +10 for vault

[round cliff]

ive not gone above a 6 yet

[graceful kite]

ah

[polar bridge]

+10 starts to be difficult, even to be grouped if you're not 615+ min ilvl @ 2400rio

[graceful kite]

nah

I'm still not 615

[polar bridge]

I just finished my 9s , the only 10 Ive been accepted was a COT and... those values... 😮

[graceful kite]

especially this week since you only actually get more damage intake on fort weeks

[gritty eagle]

@graceful kite if you only have m+ vault as source for myth track and dont craft stuff.. its a long grind

[green bronze]

even a +6 can be nightmare in a bad group. IMO anyone who is invested in prot warrior enough to be in that discord can do 10s, just make your own group and be very picky

[gritty eagle]

or rather.. why not craft? to save gold?

[graceful kite]

yep

[gritty eagle]

alright, fair enough

[graceful kite]

Wel there's no NEED to craft

I actually picked a 2h from vault

So I got nothgin from vault as prot

but 10s weren't hard last week just the transition from 9 to 10 wasnt as smooth dmg intake wise

[gritty eagle]

is your goal to push further later on in the season?

[graceful kite]

nah I'm just playing with mates when they want to play

I'll quit once they quit

[gritty eagle]

alright, sounds reasonable, personally i kinda want the juice now

i probably wont push high anyway, so rather feel strong now

[graceful kite]

what values

[round cliff]

ok so ive cracked the code

[violet ginkgo]

Myth track vault values

[gritty eagle]

@polar bridge if youre pugging, mists and ara-kara are probably the way easiest to start your 10s with

[violet ginkgo]

also what code you cracked?

[round cliff]

prot wants 2x duskthread lining, on the weakest armor bits
arms wants duskthread lining on cloak
my weakest armor bit is my cloak
both want haste/crit

so i make a cloak, with haste/crit, and duskthread lining

gg?

[polar bridge]

yeah pugging

[gritty eagle]

if you have 9s on everything, you should have no issues getting invites as prot

[polar bridge]

I'm quite picky too, don't tag in sub 2300 grp

doesnt help

[gritty eagle]

i thought mists and ara @10 was kind of easier than some 9s

[round cliff]

what happen to my hands

why are they glowy

[violet ginkgo]

because you are holy

[round cliff]

tried forsaking the light

still glowing

help!

[blazing condor]

its over

terminal radiance

[viscid bloom]

hey, I just recently started prot tanking and I love it. The only complaint I have is about getting rooted.. So the only way how I get out of snares is with avatar cd or the avatar proc from thunder clap, revenge or execute proc - which is 25%.
How do u guys play the last boss in ara kara city of threads where u have to get rooted. Just save the avatar for the first round of snares and the 2nd u just use all cds? Ofc if u got a pala than u might get hands but if u dont ...?
Is there another way to remove roots?

[graceful kite]

in arakara any cc gets you out of roots

in city of thread you can reflect the root or or just dps it down, or get a paladin

[ionic fern]

Even an interrupt gets you out on ara-kara last boss.

[graceful kite]

arakara root is a mob that casts a channeled root on you

[violet ginkgo]

you interupt the mob that is rooting you, stun/kick/something

[viscid bloom]

maybe a dumb q but with cc u mean just hurl a hammer at the boss eg?

[violet ginkgo]

no just a pummel will do

[viscid bloom]

ok

[graceful kite]

at the blob that is under you

[violet ginkgo]

pummel at the jelly under you

[viscid bloom]

I m talkign about those purple pools that drop when u kill the mobs

oooh

ok

[violet ginkgo]

that is what we talking about too

[gritty eagle]

@viscid bloom you dont have to get rooted on last boss arakara, you can heroic leap at end of the cast

[viscid bloom]

nice, well thank u guys very much

I m bad with the timing

[graceful kite]

bad idea

[viscid bloom]

atm

[violet ginkgo]

take the safe way don't risk it like netto

[viscid bloom]

😄

[graceful kite]

can screw it up and make your group sad

[gritty eagle]

i had no issues doing it like that

[graceful kite]

better leap on a bloodworker

[viscid bloom]

u a better gamer

[graceful kite]

works 100%

[viscid bloom]

aight

[gritty eagle]

i effed up jumping into a puddle tho, it despawned while i was jumping

😄

after that i start doing it the other way

[viscid bloom]

xD

[graceful kite]

I'm talking about jumping on a bloodworker

that spawns a puddle

[viscid bloom]

they just get oneshot y?

[graceful kite]

so you don;t take up any melee or ranged puddles

yes

[gritty eagle]

ok, i always aimed for a puddle that was already there

[viscid bloom]

easy

[graceful kite]

leap damage kills them

[viscid bloom]

the more u know

[graceful kite]

and you don't confuse your group by taking their planned puddle

[viscid bloom]

yea

[gritty eagle]

y that too

[graceful kite]

SO yea I recommend leaping on a bloodworker

[gritty eagle]

that was also one of the reasons why i started doing it the other way, but now i know you can also jump on a worker

[viscid bloom]

will do that, thx!

[graceful kite]

wiggle a bit after jumping if you do it late

[gritty eagle]

btw, before the casts finishes, it doesnt do any dmg getting sucked right into the middle, so i just stood there and pretty much aimed my leap for the last 1 sec (so a bit sloppy with my rotation not to eff it up)

[graceful kite]

puddle starts small and grows it takes like 0.3 seconds to grow but just in case

[clear kestrel]

Just can’t imagine why anyone is doing it late though

We’re prot

We greeding for an extra revenge cast?

[strong forum]

Yeah nah, that's a boss I would just to prefer to play clean

[golden basin]

Anyone know what makes the guardians in mists smack so hard? Is it a debuff or something?

[strong forum]

The debuff fucks, the mobs fuck, and they themselves have an aura that buffs their dmg output by 5 or 10% for each nearby mob

You can reflect every other anima slash

Rest is just "kill it before it kills you" type deal

And every maze route has atleast 1 pull that has a double guardian pull, so you have atleast 1 pull where your healer actually needs to look at your health

[blazing condor]

is that a new thing for mists or what

[strong forum]

Ye

[blazing condor]

rip

[golden basin]

Jesus Christ okay. Yeah the double guardian pack I legit make sure I have 2-3 CDs

[neon elk]

Reflect spell block wall and prey its dead

Idk if u can kite it,never tried

[kindred hearth]

Do you guys prefer Into the fray or Heavy Repercussions?

[neon elk]

Do u get more coins/ seasonal jorney for higher than 8 delves ?

[frank rock]

Why is haste so good? Is it just bevause of gcd?

[earnest cove]

Because it gives more rage

[violet ginkgo]

it's not about preference. It's about (if M+) we still don't have enough haste to use ITF and keep SB uptime, so we use HR.

[kindred hearth]

That makes sense

And that is around what point without the extra haste?

Hovering around 15k right now

Still really heavy on Mastery because of fury gear xD

[stark jewel]

ive seen ppl say on here that with 30% haste and itf they cant get 100% uptime on SB

[gritty eagle]

@golden basin guardians anima slash is also spell blockade if i recall correctly, so in the packs with 2 guardians, i usually spell reflect first, spell block for the next

[stark jewel]

so this season i doubt itll be possible

[gritty eagle]

then its very managable

[kindred hearth]

I see, i am not able to do it too

Maybe you could play with Bolster, but i Spell block is kinda nice

[stark jewel]

id say youd need to be close to 40% haste naturally before itf so itf can get 100% sb uptime

[gritty eagle]

spell blockable* (dunno how i wrote blockade)

[kindred hearth]

Yeah exactly

[golden basin]

Yeah I need to go over that spreadsheet again. Maybe a good 5 minutes before a pull cause reading for all 8 dungeons i forget instantly

[stark jewel]

get the tww spell reflect essentials weak aura

also works for fury/arms

[gritty eagle]

@golden basin give it a glance, but mainly, go back to it after you notice you've taken a lot of dmg in a specific pull, check if something significant in that pull i spell blockable -> then use and see difference

[golden basin]

Ohhh good tip I’ll get that when I get home

[fluid iron]

Is it possible to find prober m+ routes with description of each pull and etc? Completely new to m+ tanking.

[graceful kite]

because it sims best

[halcyon umbra]

Which hero talents will be better for m+ i play mountain thane atm and thinking about colo

[graceful kite]

people are linking keystone guru website, wago also has m+ routes

I just usually go by my feelycraft

[graceful kite]

thane is better but colossus isn't bad just less survivability because less rage

[halcyon umbra]

how dps looks on both spec?

[graceful kite]

both alright, colossus should be a little better but I haven't tried it out

dps good in both st and aoe but there's vdh with insane uncapped aoe bursts and some equinox log with insane brewmaster dps

[halcyon umbra]

just overthinking my performance right now 😄 sometimes i have problem when pulling with almost insta one shot me, i have 615 ilvl when going +8/+9

[gritty eagle]

@fluid iron if you havent installed the mythic dungeon tools (MDT) addon you might want to consider that aswell, so you can tinker a bit yourself with count

[halcyon umbra]

I just try to change smth

[graceful kite]

you must be doing something wrong

are you using shield block?

[halcyon umbra]

sure

[graceful kite]

shield walling on pull?

[halcyon umbra]

i use sw after pulling

there must be a point 😄

[fluid iron]

I did download that yesterday. Is it possible to import routes to that addon?

[graceful kite]

warrior is the sturdiest and smoothest damage intake tank, you shouldn't get oneshot

and 615 ilvl is a big overkill in terms of gear

[tribal wharf]

qualifier time

as long as you hit your buttons

but yes

[graceful kite]

other tanks can get oneshot even if they hit their buttons

[halcyon umbra]

maybe some kind of mistake in talents? i tried so many builds that i don't know which one will be better 😄

[graceful kite]

wowhead recommended build is very good

[gritty eagle]

@fluid iron y

[halcyon umbra]

great, i will try this one today

[tribal wharf]

50% vs world DR for 8 seconds instant speed is FUCKING INSANE value

especially with spell block and reflect

[graceful kite]

btw yogi warrior had or maybe still has a pvp talent that you wish we had

dragon charge or whatever its called

they might have renamed it with dragonflight

[tribal wharf]

u mean drunk shield stampede

i weight my options before crafting a name

Pic related.

[shrewd elm]

i was reading something about a ignore pain macro this morning, is it recommended to bind IP and revenge together?

[waxen frigate]

No

[shrewd elm]

ok 🙂

thanks veyr fresh warrior

[round pendant]

Hell naw that'd rage starve you instantly

You should macro shield slam to IP

[inland raft]

You tie shield slam to ip ya

So dont miss a reset

[round pendant]

So you have your shield slam button, and an IP + Shield Slam button

[cosmic slate]

Whats the consensus on Thane vs Colossus in raids?

Atleast top logs seem to be mostly colossus

[neat parrot]

slightly off topic. can someone help me with a wa for group filtering for m+ ? cant find the one that sorts players after rating

[tribal wharf]

i think its baseline wow now

[cerulean tusk]

It is part of the base game, no

[tribal wharf]

they added TONS of filters to making or joining keys

[cerulean tusk]

Or do you want only player in the 1200 to 1600 score range kind of thing?

[cerulean tusk]

Blizz does set number and up, not set with roof

[tribal wharf]

this

so you can choose from any of those options, the only things they DONT have listed that i see and would want is brez and lust

cuz i am firm believer of 2 brez classes

for key and lust

[agile elbow]

Pre-made group filter is also a decent addon for filtering

[tribal wharf]

every key

2 brez cuz, if paladin dies

he cant brez healer 45s later

its not hard rule, but its what i like

i consider shaman standee to be 0.5 of a brez

cuz, its self only, and where you died, so its not really all that great

[waxen cradle]

want Dual wield shields the dream... never to be realized... call is Phalanx

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto watched four people loot mark in front of me this weekend, two of them being guildies atleast

[tribal wharf]

you know how priests can external stop a guy from dying

i feel like thats what shamans should have as well on a long cd

resto ones

[waxen cradle]

OR give us vigilance back

I will take that too

[tribal wharf]

LOL i used to play as rogue in wrath and i would keep asking to have vigilance, but i cant even remember what the fuck it does now

[waxen cradle]

not shitty vigilance the good version before nerfed where we gave I think a 20% DR ?

[tribal wharf]

legit cant even remember what vigiliance is (proper)

[waxen cradle]

same cant remember what original was

[tribal wharf]

no cd on taunt and 30% external dr single player

[waxen cradle]

a nerfed version for MoP was still OP because vengeance

[tribal wharf]

ya, it was so you could taunt without cd, but thats part of leap now, leap will reset your taunt CD

which is great cuz while taunt is active, you generate 400% threat (4 seconds)

great to combine with buffed SS or SC

lets your dps unload every cd and not worry about aggro

[waxen cradle]

I will still take my Phalanx idea for dual wield shields over it all

[tribal wharf]

okay there captian america

[waxen cradle]

lol... hey Phalanx is not Cpt America

[tribal wharf]

im only teasing, i like the meme idea of dw shields, long been debated if it should go to pwar or ppal

[tender reef]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZdgFjVyYRzAQk9vT#fight=22&type=summary&source=5 guys how you like that ?❤️

[waxen cradle]

noice making the Colossus dream happen

[tribal wharf]

jesus

670k revenges

[strong forum]

getting there

[tender reef]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-byebear-cute-bye-wave-gif-344809869674681480

[neat parrot]

nono there's a wa that when you want to create a m+ group, it keeps the players sorted by score, and keeps the highest at top and low score just goes down the line, meh guess i gotta search de wago a little bit more

[toxic pewter]

can anyone link me a dawnbreaker route that people apparently do

cuz some guy said my route was not good

even though we were making good time

[harsh trellis]

What route do you use?

All of these routes are pretty linear

[toxic pewter]

sort of one I just kinda made up

go church house inn

[waxen frigate]

I land on the outer balcony of the church and clear it through the front

Then fly to second guy

[tender reef]

Boats, chapel outside 4 packs, inside big pack, Miniboss, front door chapel, then next Miniboss, 3 under house, next Miniboss, big spider, spider boss, back to ship , endboss

[toxic pewter]

yeah thats what I do.. then a dude said I should go into the back of the church

[harsh trellis]

Dawnbreaker after the first boss is just church, pull outside on the right, then inside, then I pull the back patio of the church, then the inside then the narthex of the church, then 3 at the inn and then the backside of the pub

[harsh trellis]

yes

you should

[toxic pewter]

ok

I guess thats the main issue

[waxen frigate]

That’s what I’m saying

Land on the back balcony

[harsh trellis]

SO the nice thing about that is that you know that purple ring you get?

[toxic pewter]

oh ok I land in front of church

[waxen frigate]

And clear until you walk out of the front doors

[harsh trellis]

Just land on the side.

[toxic pewter]

ahh that makes more sense

[harsh trellis]

you can start clearing and the mobs spawn once the rp finishes

[toxic pewter]

does the 2nd mini boss always have 2 dudes with him

[harsh trellis]

yes

[toxic pewter]

ok

do u fight him inside the house or wat

[harsh trellis]

you fly right into the pub you pull the 2 things with the dude

I fight inside

[toxic pewter]

yes ok thats what I did

[harsh trellis]

cause I like to wreck the inside of houses

[toxic pewter]

oh and you fight inside the inn?

[harsh trellis]

yep

[toxic pewter]

ok interesting

[harsh trellis]

I put the boss in the middle with the 2 adds

and we just blow it up

[toxic pewter]

k i will do all this going forward

I get the rest of the trash around the fountain then pull 2nd boss

is that ok or wat u guys think

[harsh trellis]

I pull just 1 half of the fountain

because people will aggro it regardless

you know how you walk up to the pub from the back, theres the mini boss, and then a pack to the right and left? thats about it. You will be around 93.4 and the boss back on the ship will give you count.

[toxic pewter]

ok

[frank rock]

I see, so haste is for DPS or does it also help survivability?

[harsh trellis]

its all out there on wowhead

[frank rock]

That's fantastic thanks

[harsh trellis]

STR is your #1

[frank rock]

Wowhead guides are quite crowded nowadays, so much information haha.. Appreciate it

[harsh trellis]

Prot war stuff on wowhead is one of the better ones, these guys keep it up to date

they change builds out also pretty often when needed

[frank rock]

Yeah i agree, all the warrior peeps are doing an amazing job

[harsh trellis]

I tried Colossus last night, this similar build. I really like it.

[tender reef]

I suck at thane so I switched

[harsh trellis]

I dont know how you could suck at thane.

[tender reef]

No dmg

[umbral kernel]

yea I was wondering the same thing

if you suck at thane you suck at warrior I would say

[tender reef]

Wait

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vm1AJrxhB3Zn9jpY#fight=last&type=damage-done

Me as thane lol

[shrewd elm]

completly off topic, what expansion are people running leveling dungeons?

[harsh trellis]

The War Within

[umbral kernel]

your comparison is like

I don't know how to say it

it's like so wrong to compare these two logs

[tender reef]

Why:x

[umbral kernel]

I mean comparing logs of keys is like

[harsh trellis]

Do you use avatar at all?

[tender reef]

Exactly

Xd

[umbral kernel]

between two same dungeons, with the exact same group, but not the same key level and not the same route, it's already hard to really get something of value

but here you compare

2 differents

dungeons and levels

2 different parties

[tender reef]

Different gear too

[umbral kernel]

yea

[tender reef]

And different skill level of char sice I got better

[umbral kernel]

max overall : 600k

here : all dps at 1M2 millions

[tender reef]

I thought about trying thane again when I get to +10+

[harsh trellis]

I change back to thane for high keys, but for low keys and normal raids I go colossus

[plush tendon]

Im under the impression that colossus is more damage

[untold isle]

Hey guys, so I found myself quite squishy on higher keys 10, etc. so I altered the build for more survival. What do you think? Am I loosting too much dmg? : CkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYkBAAAAzMzwMmZMLzsMzMzCGDTjxYMDgFGD2YmZYgZMDAAAAAAYmZAALbLAGGYDWWMmxMAmNsZmNA any feedback for the build?

[plush tendon]

but thane is easier and gives more rage (thus, more defense)

[umbral kernel]

I think it's a wrong impression

[harsh trellis]

Fueled by violence is probably an issue

change that out if you want more survivability

[plush tendon]

you dont need bolster, Shield Charge, Extended SB, and Heavy Repr

[umbral kernel]

no thunderlord 😢 is bad for survivability

[plush tendon]

also, losing the haste node in the class tree is a pretty sus

and no outburst

[umbral kernel]

no bloodsurge is bad too

no outburst is inting

[pale badge]

zis booming voice really > violent outburst?

[frank rock]

outburst and booming is better than ravager no?

[tender reef]

Roar is collos, thane uses spear.
Just use the build from nomeratur

[urban bane]

defenders aegis 🤮

[umbral kernel]

don't take it personally but this build is cooked

use classic one

[tender reef]

Yeah just use Standart m+ from wow head guide

Or use my build and play collos if you want sick dmg

[inner wren]

Any prot war reroll enjoyers

[tender reef]

Me

[inner wren]

Me

[plush tendon]

Not I

Cause I've always had a Prot War

[harsh trellis]

Prot 4 lyfe

[plush tendon]

though, BDK is my main

Prot War is number 1 alt though

[inner wren]

I’ve been anima slashed for the last time

No longer will I allow this

[umbral kernel]

I was sure I saw you on the bdk channel

[plush tendon]

[tender reef]

If the sanlayn changes hit hard I might switch back to BDK. Would probably be impossible to find groups though (no rating 603 GS)

And not me ?

[umbral kernel]

I dropped bdk for pwar

[tender reef]

I'm shilling sanlayn since weeks

Those frost tank enjoyers are traitors

[plush tendon]

BDK is my 'break glass if all goes wrong' class

[umbral kernel]

tbh I hate bdk deathbringer

[untold isle]

So, I was trying the official build but wasnt so happy, still fealt squishy

[plush tendon]

and, besides, you need two for Broodtwister

[tender reef]

https://tenor.com/view/betrayed-betrayal-friends-vpr-pump-rules-gif-13505250

[tender reef]

12+ you are supposed to be squishy

[harsh trellis]

can you post a log of the run you felt squishy in ?

[tender reef]

Yeah post log 🪵🪵🪵🪵

[umbral kernel]

• I think you sometimes need to get help from healer, like externals like pain supp etc

if you start to push

unless you play godlike but still

[tender reef]

Yeah especially in 12+

[plush tendon]

12s hurt

dont get it twisted

they slap on a extra 20% damage

plus the normal key scaling

[tender reef]

9 already are sick if you ask me. 2 hits through block and you're done

[umbral kernel]

I don't think he said he was doing twelves

[plush tendon]

9s are easy

[harsh trellis]

10 SIege isnt so bad.

[plush tendon]

10s are a challange though

11s is a step up

[tender reef]

He said 10 etc

[plush tendon]

and 12.... well we arent going that high right now

[umbral kernel]

bro I think the step up between 10 and 12 is like

top 10% versus top 0.0001% of player

[tender reef]

Naaaa

[plush tendon]

As you can see, I am very into M+ this season

[tender reef]

4/8 M

Not bad

[umbral kernel]

how the ufck are you 624 with 1k8 score

[strong forum]

Idk I feel like keys do 0 tank dmg

[inner wren]

Those are the baby mode bosses though

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

[umbral kernel]

whenever I want to do double pull I need a pain supp from my healer lmao

[tender reef]

Just cuz liquid eggs them doesn't mean you could

[untold isle]

So yeah been struggling in 10 som,etimes getting oneshotted

[strong forum]

The secret of only doing mists and ara ara and not other keys

[harsh trellis]

Heres a real question.........

[untold isle]

felt like I am bussing the block uptime

[harsh trellis]

IN raid.... before worm boss

[plush tendon]

half right

NW and Mists

[strong forum]

How do you get 1shot I don't get it

[harsh trellis]

wtf do you do so you dont get flung off the side from the tras

[plush tendon]

[inner wren]

First four mythic are very easy this tier that’s not a flame

[untold isle]

but I was stickin to the wowherad guide, then checked the top talents of some raider io tanks, and was trying to combine for more survive

[strong forum]

Nothing does enough dmg to get 1shot

[tender reef]

No rage for shield block/IP

[untold isle]

grim batol the slash for 8m

wasnt topped

[umbral kernel]

nah I don't get one shot, but for example some grim batol packs I can't survive without help

[strong forum]

The big beetles at broodtwister trash throw you behind them

[harsh trellis]

ok so face the wall

thank you

[plush tendon]

really?

[strong forum]

So just aim their back again the wall

[harsh trellis]

nice

[plush tendon]

GB felt awesome on a Prot War

[umbral kernel]

yea why would I say this otherwise

[untold isle]

and the slashes in grim batol ? how do you best counter that? u can SR one, but the second one from second mob?

[plush tendon]

I'm just curious what gave you trouble?

[umbral kernel]

packs after 2nd boss

[plush tendon]

minus last boss cause hes a bitch

fuck dem tentacles

[harsh trellis]

I just dont walk on them

[plush tendon]

I thought that area was mostly group damage, no?

[harsh trellis]

Also I put my graphics down to 0

it makes it so much nicer

[chilly sluice]

Spell reflect and clear them if you can’t dodge em.

[umbral kernel]

the enforcers

[plush tendon]

Though, and I didnt notice this for a while, theres this one mob that enrages if you let it hit you for a while

[untold isle]

the mauler ogre

[plush tendon]

so you gotta stun, walk away, and let it drop

[umbral kernel]

yea this one

[strong forum]

Sw the 2nd or just, live it idk

Doesn't rly hurt that much

And by the 3rd they're dead anyway

[ornate thicket]

If you pull them together their slash lines up snd you reflect both. Then spell block 2nd set of slashes

[strong forum]

Mauler just kill it before it kills you, stormbolt them if you have to drop their stacks

[untold isle]

also, guys, mb some more feedback from you, this is my gear now : https://raider.io/characters/eu/burning-blade/Hyar any suggestion for crafts? I raid M usually as Fury and do M+ as prot, havent been to raid much due to business trips but I will start Mythic again in like 2 weeks. any suggestions what to craft now first ? that would work for both Fury and Prot? looking at my gear?

[strong forum]

I've only died in a double mauler pull cuz dmg was terrible

[inner wren]

My favorite is watching people charge straight into those last few grim batol packs and getting murdered

[strong forum]

Outside of that, GB kinda doesn't do tank dmg

[tender reef]

Got some logs for m+?

[umbral kernel]

yea usually when I die tho it's more a broader problem

like

bad dps

[untold isle]

sadly no, can do some tonight

[umbral kernel]

meh cc/interrupts

panic

[strong forum]

The cc interrupts kills the group more than you

Except for mauler

And I no longer panic in keys

Too experienced for that

I'm beyond chill in keys these days

[tender reef]

Nice 9er though what's your issue?

[dusky canopy]

Classic nome “GB doesn’t do tank damage”
Mean while almost every single pug tank I ran with this weekend got annihilated by enforcers and hatchlings

:classic:

[plush tendon]

well.... I agree with Nom

I think the tank damage is light in GB

[strong forum]

Apparently im on my own with that take, other friends also say that tanks get clapped in this season and I'm like

Where

[plush tendon]

the scariest thing in that dungeon are lavamancers

[dusky canopy]

It’s the hatchlings bro I’m telling you

[plush tendon]

when they ascend

[dusky canopy]

Idk if they just eat back hits or what

[strong forum]

The hatchlings melee quite hard

[tender reef]

Healers are sleeping lol

[dusky canopy]

Specially BDK

BDK just flops instantly

[strong forum]

Just pop sw/ls as you engage

Yeah okay bdk

[plush tendon]

thats just a BDK thing

[chilly sluice]

Hatchlings kinda scary, other them That dungeon kinda easy if group all have brains

[plush tendon]

gotta live in on the edge

[dusky canopy]

This guy ran in with VB and Swords

Smoked em

3 globals

Lmao

[plush tendon]

maybe synced autos?

[turbid shuttle]

enforcers you can counterplay easily as pwar by just a single stormbolt to reset their stacks. if you never reset they're scary though.

[dusky canopy]

Could be I didn’t pay to close attention tbh

[turbid shuttle]

hatchlings melee way harder than their model/hp bar indicates they would

[dusky canopy]

Ye I try to help out the tank with that as fury whenever I can

[strong forum]

Yeah I've noticed that

[plush tendon]

though, packs of lots of hard hitting melee mobs is a classic BDK stomper

[inner wren]

Hatchlings just gotta desync the melees and they’re bing chillin

[strong forum]

I charged into pack and dropped to 90% hp -> pop ls sw and healthstone

"okay don't go in nekkid"

[turbid shuttle]

I learned quickly don't charge the big guy. charge the front hatchling

[strong forum]

Yeah

[umbral kernel]

@strong forum I have a question for you, on easier content, is it valuable to drop a point (for example bloodsurge) into show of force, or does the bonus damage even on thunderblast is too small

[strong forum]

Can be safely ignored

That 1 talent shift is worth fuckall

[dusky canopy]

It’s probably irrelevant

^

[umbral kernel]

ok ty guys

[strong forum]

You can do ut

But eh

[polar bridge]

yeah, yesterday I instantly died by charging the big guy without any pre-CD

[strong forum]

That's a drop in the bucket type change

[umbral kernel]

alright ty for your answer

[polar bridge]

hatchling in front may hit you HARD from the back xD

[dusky canopy]

Yeah worst thing you can do is charge the big guy and have 4 or 5 if the hatchlings hit you in the back

You have to just charge a hatchling at the nearest part of the pack

[inner wren]

What vault item am I praying for tonight

Lord please do not give me the shitty stone vault taunt trinket

[kind urchin]

I haven't had any issues with damage intake. I did go fury for a key with my co tank and he was getting destroyed on his dh.

[turbid shuttle]

sorry for late reply I was sleeping. the 2 min CD thing I forgot, which makes it 22.5s/3 min compared to 32s/3 min, still almost 50% in favour of SC. I also don't see why you'd need to hold SC almost ever. SB stacks up to 3 charges, and you're never really going to have 16+ seconds of SB buff without using SC, so you can just send it. Only time you'd hold is end of pack because you don't want to be sitting with long duration SB up between pulls, but you'd hold LS in that case too so it's a tie.

[dusky canopy]

I feel that.. blizzard rng is fucking me good this season
15 GBs without trinket and 9 SV without trinket

So annoying

[violet ginkgo]

well unless you targetting shield in the vault, just loot as DPS, that taunt trinket won't appear

[inner wren]

Is that the play for prot war

I genuinely don’t know

[chilly sluice]

If you don’t need weapon/shield loot arms afaik

[inner wren]

Only rerolled prot this week

Kk

[plush tendon]

im doing fury loot spec

crafted 636 shield is perfectly fine for now

until Mythic first boss is puggable

or maybe I can sneak in main raid on my alt

heck, maybe I do Mythic reclear on Warrior (or at least first and fourth boss)

I heckin hate doing those bosses on blood dk

[trim condor]

jumped on my disco priest alt to heal some keys. It was fun to heal this

[bronze dome]

lads ive been dabbling in prot warrior

whats "best" , thane or colossus?

[raven zealot]

thane

[steady seal]

Hey, i know this is prob not the place to ask this, but, i use the luxthor WA and i would like to change the ignore pain bar to the amount of barrier insted the duration, anyone knows how to do it ?

[cold pilot]

Is this helm only? I figured it was shoulders too :/

[surreal steppe]

can probably add a text trigger with the tooltip info if you select Fetch Tooltip Info, will likely be something like %1.tooltip1 or something like that

[steady seal]

thanks, gonna try that

[surreal steppe]

not sure how Luxthos sets up their WA but its a relatievly easy thing to set up

[west bane]

Hey by any chance does someone have a good sheet where u have good things to spell reflect in keys / raid?

[ionic fern]

Pins.

[west bane]

Sorry I'm on phone didn't check

[bronze wraith]

Hey, why is the silken needle 🪡 trinket rated so highly ?

[strong forum]

It's helmet and shoulders

[tender reef]

Colossus

[cold pilot]

My warrior only has helmet glowing :/

[tender reef]

[strong forum]

Then you're using the wrong shoulders

[tender reef]

Oh yeah

[strong forum]

It adds the lightning effect to shoulders aswell

Also you have to relog after using the item

Otherwise the new tmog options won't show

[cold pilot]

I had to relog and it fixed it.. when i used the thing it only said: