he asked for forgemaster
#protection
lusty grotto
dusty temple
Ah ok. Thought I was doing something wrong lol. Thanks!
lusty grotto
the cone is baited on dps
tribal wharf
SV cloak dropped, but not for me
some dude in blues
i think thats the best one we can get from keys
jagged pier
rough wyvern
Is there any reason at all to buy Scout's March enchant for boots rather than Plainsrunner's Breeze? Don't the give the exact same?
rough wyvern
Ye exactly..
tribal wharf
i mean hell, i could just craft a cloak
that or boots
or weapon
i wasnt sure if i should do cloak due to chance of heroic raid cloak from weekly boxes
main walrus
hello! question about demoralizing shout, if i have a big dot from a boss, and i press demo shout, do i get the damage reduction ? or i need to press it before the boss puts the dot on me
main walrus
nice, thank you
lusty grotto
it'll work as soon as its pressed, mid-dot
regal yarrow
What affects our DPS most as protection warriors? In 9s and 10s I can't seem to parse better than 50-80th percentile. Am I pulling too small? Or am I pulling too big and having to dump too much into defense? Should I be ignoring shield slam in favor of revenge in big pulls?
urban portal
regal yarrow
I mean it's still telling me I'm doing less damage than other protection warriors in the same key level. It's good to know.
lusty grotto
What affects our DPS most as protection warriors? In 9s and 10s I can't seem to ...
are you thane?
regal yarrow
Yeah I'm thane
regal yarrow
Nothing else to press. I use it when I don't have thunder clap or shield slam and have already spent rage on ignore pain
lusty grotto
you press IP
lusty grotto
IP is the de-facto rage spender
lusty grotto
more IPs = faster rage consumed = AM resets avatar
regal yarrow
So if shield slam and thunderclap are on cooldown I shouldn't hit revenge between ips?
lusty grotto
sure
but revenge isnt what is dropping your dps, is my point
youre also being compared with Colossus warriors
your APM seems fine
no piercing challenge in talents, which is a small optmization
no ravager
youre playing BSV
without ravager
why are people doing this
strong forum
cuz they copy
lusty grotto
jesus christ
regal yarrow
Yeah I just hit copy on the top runs
tribal wharf
all the top players are using it
40% versa or gtfo
(reffering to bfa keys corruption)
lusty grotto
drop BSV, get ravager
if you want BSV
you drop Shield Charge and Champ's Bulwark
and talent Bolster and BSV
and do not be worried about DPS at that point
violet ginkgo
cuz they copy
Dejavu? Felt we just had this BSV incident few hours ago 
lusty grotto
drop bitter immunity and grab piercing challenge
drop Defender's Aegis and grab Impenetrable Wall
lusty grotto
a large part is your talents, youre copying some dogshit build
tribal wharf
why would you take BI
you already have tons of DR and healing
raid boss that needs it i guess
violet ginkgo
But yogi, explain what this shield stampede will do. AoE skills?
tribal wharf
TLDR its dragon charge but you arent drunk
lusty grotto
your gameplay is not perfect, but its kind of decent, Kengfa, just tweak your talents and dont copy paste without understanding them
tribal wharf
DC you weave in and out of traffic and would be pulled over by police for illegal lane change
regal yarrow
thanks for the tips
chilly ermine
hi guys, is it worth to play thunderous roar instead of speer in m+?
strong forum
sure if you make the correct talent choice to get it
its not optimal to pick roar but absolutely playable
chilly ermine
whats the good or the bad side of playing roar? cause i think its more dmg in aoe then speer?
tribal wharf
this is the forbidden shield stampede we cannot have
muted pumice
is there a weakaura that makes a sound when shield block is about to fall off?
strong forum
arctic quartz
alrighty ima just go back to mountain thane if its the better choice
strong forum
defensively it absolutely is
chilly ermine
its not more dmg
ah ok
arctic quartz
is shield slam always highest prio on mountain thane?
strong forum
its pretty fucking high up ye
arctic quartz
or does having procs on thunderclap do something
graceful kite
is shield slam always highest prio on mountain thane?
yes
arctic quartz
also whats up with this i cant click on the war within
strong forum
strong forum
or does having procs on thunderclap do something
feel free to read my rotation guide on wowhead
TLDR its this
hollow sphinx
could upgrade with cataclysm from 2/4 set to 4/4 set (all hero pieces)... should i wait for wednesday in case of im receiving a mythic or go straight ahead for 4/4 hero 619 pieces
strong forum
its sunday
yeah wait for vault
tierset isnt that important that you NEED it right now
neat parrot
do we craft weap with embelish ? same as dps ?
strong forum
we do not
cold pilot
Anyone know how much rating you get for completing a +10 shortly after time runs out?
neat parrot
so after shield 636 is there anything important to craft?
neat parrot
Anyone know how much rating you get for completing a +10 shortly after time runs...
i got 323 for a mists in 26 mins, and 303 for a sob 10 1 min over
arctic quartz
so after shield 636 is there anything important to craft?
oh shit damn what shield we be crafting
cold pilot
I need 8 points.
cold pilot
oh shit damn what shield we be crafting
novel comet
Is Colosuss Prot the answer? o.O
strong forum
wdym answer
unique wyvern
Is the 3% leech talent working properly?
I have 1325 leech from the wrist enchant but that's currently all I have on the char stats
novel comet
Tank was 2nd in DMG overall in a Stonevault 7
strong forum
Is the 3% leech talent working properly?
I have 1325 leech from the wrist enchan...
you should have 9% leech on your character sheet
novel comet
ilvl 618 ilvl overall with the 639 wep
strong forum
or slightly higher
unique wyvern
you should have 9% leech on your character sheet
I'll check it out
shrewd elm
Hey, going to make a prot warrior next after my bdk and bear. Prot seems more fun. But.. what race. Is the new earthen any good?
smoky anvil
dwarf bis if you're not after aesthetic
cinder storm
whatever looks good with an xmog on for you
neat parrot
is shield 636 > weap 636?
strong forum
yes
smoky anvil
even aesthetically dwarf is bis
based
strong forum
defensively absolutely
shrewd elm
Even with the 10% more armor racial?
cold pilot
Can someone come kill Zekvir for me before I punch holes in my wall, thanks.
cold pilot
Ok well come kill it for me, thanks.
shrewd elm
its only base armor
Base armor from equipment, is that not all our armor?
cold pilot
I simply cant kill the cacoon fast enough and kick all the heals and spits
This makes the Mage Tower look like a joke
strong forum
Base armor from equipment, is that not all our armor?
we have an armor mulitplier
and its only the base armor that gets increased, not affected by our mulitiplier
strong forum
ye
unique wyvern
I simply cant kill the cacoon fast enough and kick all the heals and spits
I don't think it's possible as prot RN idk
Got it down to 20% as fury opposed to 80% as prot haha
150 attempts
615 ilvl
unique wyvern
Who
cold pilot
the other warriors that have completed it lol
unique wyvern
Oh shet
cinder storm
I think I'm going to play wow again, anything fun to look forward regarding class design?
cold pilot
Not for Prot no.. We're the only class they havent touched since launch
strong forum
colossus is a nice break from playing thane
cold pilot
and i hate our 4pc
unique wyvern
Skill issue I guess
I'll check his yt now
strong forum
so you get some variety
cinder storm
Thanks, I've barely read anything, ppl are going thane as it is def oriented is my take?
cinder storm
thanks, I'll give it a try
true lake
hey guys
just tried my first then which was ara kara
and the boss fucked me like i was paper
any ideas =L
i was thinking maybe its my build
strong forum
nah build is fine
just pop SW for tankbuster
aka the vicious bite shit
does like 0 dmg to me
warm hearth
hey boys, as a returning player, just running for old Mogs atm, is the Burning Plate of the Worldbreaker still able to spawn or is it no longer available since we cant get artifact power anymore?
strong forum
also make sure to actually have block up
its a rare spawn in a cave
look for the comments on the wowhead page
warm hearth
its a rare spawn in a cave
ye i did the pre requisites as it said to do in legion to read the tablet, but no spawn today. So now it is just a random spawn on a daily lockout/spawn?
warm hearth
ty alot ❤️ appreciate it!
arctic quartz
WHYS MY SHIELD KEEP BREAKING
ebon talon
What pulled the other pack here? I've watched this about 6 times can't figure it out
arctic quartz
stop dying
no deahts tho
strong forum
then repair more often
arctic quartz
but only my shield
daring marlin
strong forum
What pulled the other pack here? I've watched this about 6 times can't figure it...
that patrolling commander there i think just got pulled a little early
so he socialled
and it takes a while for them to pull
it has happened to me aswell
but that pull is generally fine
jagged gust
blocking attacks does durability dmg
This is why I don't use SB
Blizz aint tricking me in to spending my gold
daring marlin
based
pallid quiver
Imagine if you could craft extra procs and tertiaries onto crafted pieces
Speed stonks go up
jagged gust
I would be zooming
Also question, would NW be a good contender for swapping in disrupt? I'm coming across 3 or 4 pulls that are giving me issues with gathering groups of casters and I can only kick so much, especially on the necromancer mob with his army of mages and crossbowmen
kind urchin
If I get an indestructable shield I will never replace it.
cosmic canyon
can Ara-Kara Sacbrood drop for protection warriors or we need to go other specc in ara-kara +m ?
strong forum
nah it drops for all specs in the game
cosmic canyon
ty
arctic quartz
is with groups not kicking twist thoughts
whats it do
rough fiber
Guys quick question.. On Queen Ansurek, what is best to use on the "Feast" to prevent more HP lose? Shield wall and Ignore pain? Any tips?
merry sluice
whats it do
delete the timer
arctic quartz
nah but fr whats it do
daring marlin
merry sluice
a fuck ton of dmg
daring marlin
usually happens in at least one dungeon per season/expac
and if they do kick they overlap 'em
lusty grotto
Guys quick question.. On Queen Ansurek, what is best to use on the "Feast" to pr...
spell block
spell block liquefy
and then you can wall feast
rigid yew
Theoretically could you have all gear have +speed on it and just zoom around the dungeon at light speed?
lusty grotto
of course
ever since tertiaries were invented
if youre lucky enough to get all pieces with it
🙂
jagged gust
It's quite literally every single piece needs it, minus one if all your speed gear is above champion level
But boy is it fun
round cliff
ah
ebon talon
just goto his lair in spider place
jagged gust
Yeah he has his own delve, I just figured this out this week lol
round cliff
ive not seen the fight yet
hold cds for "egg" and gg?
jagged gust
for ? It shouldn't matter, but for ?? absolutely
Also he hits like an absolute monster
round cliff
healer brann req?
jagged gust
Nah, but just watch your damage intake, a single backshot can lead to a quick death
anything that removes slow will get rid of the dot he casts, save your kick for the heal
tawdry herald
any other slots besides weap/shield worth spark crafting?
lusty grotto
leap doesnt remove slows
jagged gust
Also literally everything he casts will one shot you, so watch your timers, otherwise you'll aim a frontal cone so large you can't escape as you charge from halfway across the room after charging an egg
round cliff
ok zekvir on ? is ez
jagged gust
yeah it's lfr difficulty
tawdry herald
do we have any build variations for different dungeons/affixes?
jagged gust
Only personal choices for the most part
Haste affix means swapping HR for ITF feels really good
jade tartan
Does anyone know if you can shadowmelt the Rime Dagger in cot?
So that u don’t get the stack frost aoe?
jade tartan
We have the best tool available for something like that
lusty grotto
you literally would have to insta taunt
jade tartan
Ofc
jade tartan
Won’t have spell block for both sets up
fair bear
at what haste % do we swap to itf?
lusty grotto
yes you will
hearty stump
whats everyones thoughts on running Into the Fray over Heavy Repercussions? Is it just a how much haste % you have?
lusty grotto
spell block lasts 30s
round cliff
whats the effective cd of shield block
hearty stump
at what haste % do we swap to itf?
20% afaik?
jade tartan
Still does dmg and still is an interesting thing to be able to pull of, no?
lusty grotto
of course
jade tartan
Dawnbreaker scnd boss the tank slam is shadowmelt able. And he doesn’t recast
So it’s huge for the one overlap
hearty stump
But basically don't touch itf before 35?
lusty grotto
not recommended no
hearty stump
I just tried it with 23% haste and the shieldblock downtime definitely felt noticable.
So pretty risky ig
What about Bloodsurge v Disrupting shout?
lusty grotto
you pick what you need
hearty stump
Bloodsurge for just overall more rage generation + more ips over control?
lusty grotto
not by a whole lot but yes
lusty grotto
its decent
tribal wharf
too dumb to play?
round cliff
too dumb to play?
i can barely manage 1 resource in rage
tribal wharf
heartstrike and deathstrike till cows come home
round cliff
managing 2 resources in runes + rp is crazy
hearty stump
I presume if you want to run BSV you kinda have to drop Enduring Alacrity? BSV just seems like a pretty safe talent. Is it worth swapping the two?
hearty stump
Damn. Sounds like a pretty big swap.
Alright, reckon I'll just stick to the same old.
karmic plinth
shield charge is the least consequential part you can drop to get bsv
vocal cave
i'd drop ravager for it tbh
compact pilot
Hey guys I am playing prot warrior for the first time and the consensus seems to be to not even bind slam, this makes sense in aoe as revenge is multi target but in pure single target fights why don't we use slam over revenge? Slam hits the target for 131,270 according to the tooltip and revenge for 84,323 so in pure single target situations why aren't we using slam? What am I missing here?
merry sluice
revenge is essentially filler you'll press nearly any button in your kit over it
compact pilot
I get that but in pure single target shouldnt the filler be slam instead?
merry sluice
no, you'll use revenge as filler to fish for shield slam resets.
you want as much shield slam out as possible, especially in st
sand pebble
Hey guys I am playing prot warrior for the first time and the consensus seems to...
If you have rage to slam you have rage to cast ip
merry sluice
and also that yes we want to maximize spending rage
Ignore pain is off the global cool down, so that is the best way to prevent us from capping on maximum rage since we don't delay casting anything in the process
Where as revenge serves as filler far better than slam, since it can reset one of our best ways to build rage (and for HR also help maintain our active mitigation)
compact pilot
Ahh okay that makes sense, i wasnt aware that revenge had a chance to reset shield slam I thought that was just autos
turbid shuttle
What pulled the other pack here? I've watched this about 6 times can't figure it...
Somebody damaged 2 of the mobs. If you look closely you can see the front 2 are 99% as they walk in but the back 2 are 100%. I can't really see anything that hit them but it did.
tribal wharf
fracture must be really fun on a +10
barren oar
yall ever been kicked from a key becuase your weap wasnt crafted
think i dodged a bullet there
tribal wharf
i mean
what
i cant think of any line of logic that would lead them to think that way :S
snow furnace
how good is pain and gain in m+? I see some top parsers grabbing it but it seems neglible?
barren oar
i dont use it if that means anything
tribal wharf
i forget the reason we dont get it
inland raft
Its neglible
barren oar
becasue it s u c k s
inland raft
Better options then a heal that often procs as overheal too
barren oar
plate repairs are expensive man
tribal wharf
instantly
barren oar
destructible shield maintenance
daring marlin
common yogi W
placid frigate
Whats a good setup for Brann for solo delves? im able to solo t8 at 578ilvl, just want to optimize a bit more
tribal wharf
i just go in with keys build personally for thane
and i set him to healer these days, im 610 now, but i was 602, t8s with brann healer was good, but tier 9s was rough
since you are 578 you will snowball in ilvl till like 600 after getting some 584+s and champions
jagged gust
I like porcelain and amorphous I think? The crit and +/- size one
tribal wharf
that was for 9
cuz i was dying LMAO
i also liked streamlined, rage filled and porcelian, i feel like streamlined will be meta once delves are completely speed run
shadow sequoia
how good is prot set ?
tribal wharf
i think the 2pc has more value than the 4pc but its not alot of dps
bleak breach
2pc okay, 4pc sucks
shadow sequoia
oh
shadow sequoia
what about m+
tribal wharf
same thing
shadow sequoia
isn't 4p better for m+ ?
tribal wharf
cuz your dps doesnt really change keys to raid, you still hit same buttons same order
zealous goblet
cuz your dps doesnt really change keys to raid, you still hit same buttons same ...
um actually no because heroics dont hit hard enough for shield wall so!!!!!!
🤓
im jk pls no hurt
tribal wharf
you have to crit with the SS to get the 10% clap dmg, and we are trying to spam hell out of SS
we can have as many as 3 to send in a row
so im not entirely sure youd get as much value as you might imagine you would for claps
barren oar
lust PI and skyfury the SS procs are endless sometimes
shadow sequoia
oh, didn't see that ss had to crit, that sucks so hard
tribal wharf
SS double hit rogue and pwar and skyfury would probably go hard in a key
triple SS? that would be insane, has to be
in this imaginary key, i would also like a dps monk or dk (doesnt matter spec for dk)
warm plinth
Aren't the extra hits from windfury and shit like that just white hits?
tribal wharf
im pretty certain combat rogue outlaw get value from just white attacking somehow besides poison
warm plinth
They get energy procs from offhand strikes
novel comet
yall ever been kicked from a key becuase your weap wasnt crafted
ROFL. you def dodged a bullet. 4 of them.
tribal wharf
blade flurry and killing spree is lethal
merry sluice
first time ive been kicked from a key over anything
i remember my pally being kicked from an atal in s3
bc i wasnt a dwarf
even though it meant nothing bc i could just bubble and bop+taunt throughj the bleed
toxic pewter
just had a 10 nw meltdown on the final boss.. worked hard to make the run smooth.. then we get to final boss with 7 minutes left..
and the team just melts down.. no pun intended i guess
never seen a group throw so hard
jagged gust
Final boss is like, the easiest, wut
merry sluice
nw and CoT, fucking hell in pugs
but last boss is like brain off so long as they dont insta dispel
toxic pewter
Final boss is like, the easiest, wut
Yeah I literally typed “what’s going on here” “are you guys serious”
A dude died down below
jagged gust
I struggle on the mobs in nw tho
toxic pewter
So we are 4 manning it, 3 at a time on boss cuz a dude is down below
Then it all fell apart
Yeah I was doing some great plays and pulls on trash
To make sure we had time
merry sluice
I *struggle* on the mobs in nw tho
tbf they only time in in danger on mobs
is when dps decide to throw a fucking cleaver at my skull mid fatty pull
and NOT the trash
sometimes they pick the healer :D
jagged gust
Specifically the necromancer, that guy is just not a fun time
toxic pewter
But imagine the throwing on the final boss
Literally easiest boss perhaps all season
jagged gust
Without a doubt
jagged gust
Weird things happening this week
warm plinth
Literally easiest boss perhaps all season
Ironic considering he was the hardest last time we saw the dungeon
cobalt wagon
Hey I’ve read the guide and played a little bit and what really confuses me is what your filler spell is when all your rage generators are on cd and you don’t have enough rage to spend or you are forced to spend it on ignore pain which doesn’t even have a gcd. Do you literally just never run out of rage even in single target or what
jagged gust
A guildie of mine who generally parses 0-5 got invited to a full clear and the group one shot the entire raid on heroic, meanwhile this guy thought it was normal the entire time
warm plinth
Hey I’ve read the guide and played a little bit and what really confuses me is w...
Not all of our spells cost rage, and you're never forced to use IP
cobalt wagon
All the spells that don’t cost rage have cds though right? What’s the filler spell that costs no rage
warm plinth
There can be small periods of rage starvation outside of cooldowns on single target if you overspend on Ignore Pain
They have cooldowns, but short ones
restive plaza
can you still clear tents on last boss in grim batol with spell reflect?
toxic pewter
The better question is why you are out of rage
glacial eagle
90% of my shield slams reset shield slam cd. how are you out of rage
warm plinth
And Shield Slam gets reset frequently through auto attacks and the usage of every other rotational ability except IP
Well, it's not Shield Slam resetting it; that's impossible.
cobalt wagon
I said earlier I’m sure proper gameplay means you don’t have rage problems . I have less than 2 hours played on prot but having these awkward gaps where I’m not even clicking anything in single target just waiting on one of my rage generators to come off cd. I’m level 70 with no hero talents as well
warm plinth
Proper gameplay does mean you don't have rage problems
shrewd ore
well the issue is ur lvl 70 xd
warm plinth
That shouldn't matter
warm plinth
He's got all his core talents; we didn't have rage problems last expansion either.
south zealot
I said earlier I’m sure proper gameplay means you don’t have rage problems . I h...
stop using ignore pain so myg
much
drifting fable
can you still clear tents on last boss in grim batol with spell reflect?
yes
torpid merlin
Anyone know why Yoda runs thunderous roar over spear? https://raider.io/characters/us/illidan/Yodawr
robust urchin
Anyone know why Yoda runs thunderous roar over spear? https://raider.io/characte...
Nobody knows why he does anything
torpid merlin
I kind of want to try it
cobalt wagon
Ok ok ty guys just wanted to make sure that warrior didn’t just naturally have some gaps like that lmao
torpid merlin
Nobody knows why he does anything
Is the conventional wisdom that you run spear now because of rage generation?
zealous goblet
Proper gameplay does mean you don't have rage problems
mfw no shield slam reset after like 4 revenges
(i know this is a rare case i'm just having some fun)
robust urchin
Is the conventional wisdom that you run spear now because of rage generation?
I dunno
shrewd ore
spear just does more dps
blissful mirage
Sometimes I don't understand prot warriors lol, everyone in the discord is saying drop sc + buff and then take BSV and bolster, but on WCL a very small amount of people are doing that and instead opting to get rid of ravager for BSV... I feel like we need 1 more talent point or something just to appease everyone
toxic pewter
wat who’s saying to drop sc
turbid shuttle
nim+nome have commonly said to drop sc for bsv + bolster, instead of ravager
warm plinth
Sometimes I don't understand prot warriors lol, everyone in the discord is sayin...
No one in this discord is saying to run BSV
toxic pewter
Oh to get BSV yeah prob drop sc
warm plinth
They're saying you CAN do that to run BSV
turbid shuttle
if you're going to get bsv, that is the way they say to do it
warm plinth
It's not a recommendation
shrewd ore
u should run bsv in high keys so if ur doing 11s+
warm plinth
No, you shouldn't; it's completely unnecessary
blissful mirage
They're saying you CAN do that to run BSV
yeah sorry that's what I meant, I meant that in a way that IF they want to they are doing it that way
shrewd ore
2% tank dps dont matter if u can pull bigger
toxic pewter
Playing without sc feels very bad. Lose a lot of rage from it too over time
torpid merlin
I haven't tried BSV yet and I'm in the 10-11 key range. It really feels like I've hit a survivability wall that requires me to consider using it
warm plinth
So let me make sure I'm understanding you here.
shrewd ore
there's a reason basically everyone doing wf keys is using bsv
warm plinth
No seriously, hear me out
torpid merlin
I'm listening and very interest 🙂
inland raft
That wall is 12+ though because of a massive spike in difficulty
10-11 no reason for bsv
shrewd ore
key dependent but ya agree
warm plinth
You honestly think that the deciding factor between being able to do high keys or not is an 8 second defensive that requires you to fall dangerously low (which prot war doesn't do with proper play). And that extremely dangerous 8 second defensive has a 4% uptime.
torpid merlin
10-11 no reason for bsv
Objectively I get it, but it FEELS like I need it right now. Maybe it's just an ilevel thing, but it definitely feels that way
shrewd ore
bro no one cares about uptime
its about having a fail save where u would die otherwise
tank death = key gone
warm plinth
Play properly, and you don't die.
shrewd ore
thats such a bad take i don't even know xdd
warm plinth
The talent isn't enabling high keys with that logic; it's enabling you to fuck up and maybe not die because of it.
warm plinth
That does not make it required for high keys.
warm plinth
You are saying you should run it, which is the same thing in WoW terms.
warm plinth
u should run bsv in high keys so if ur doing 11s+
You literally said this
warm plinth
Now you're just arguing semantics. If you're gonna say something dumb, at least stick to your convictions.
shrewd ore
ur doing the same thing
warm plinth
Lol, when you come into a class discord and you say "you should run x" and people read that, they do not read it as "most are using it"
You just said that "play properly and you don't die" is a bad take so idk why I'm even entertaining this conversation anymore.
shrewd ore
I mean have you never made a mistake?
shrewd ore
the price in keys for that mistake is u dying
= bricking the key
that talent could prevent that
turbid shuttle
lol just never make a mistake. easy peasy.
turbid shuttle
or you could have a safety net for the occasional mistake, and give up a small amount of rage and damage for it
warm plinth
It takes a very fundamental mistake to die on a prot warrior
turbid shuttle
says the 2k io rando
warm plinth
It's not just oh I pressed this one wrong global
shrewd ore
xd
warm plinth
It's oh I didn't press the thing that is core to the entire spec
shrewd ore
surely u dont just get completely deleted in a SV +11 15 mob pull if u stay in for 1 sec too long or sth
never happens
warm plinth
I don't need to be 2900 io to know how to play the spec. Nome and Mwahi write the guides to the spec and neither of them are 2900 io, but we trust them because they've proven that they know what they're talking about. I don't spread misinformation and my time in this server has proven that. You can choose to listen or not listen, but I won't let you spread misinformation if I'm here to call you out on it.
shrewd ore
Shit sorry didn't know I'm speaking to the guardian of the server, my bad
torpid merlin
Does Defender's Aegis give you more shield wall uptime in a dungeon? I see people running it over Impenetrable Wall and I'm curious if it just equates to having it available for more trash pulls
turbid shuttle
"play bsv if you think you might die" is misinformation. lmao...
shrewd ore
Does Defender's Aegis give you more shield wall uptime in a dungeon? I see peopl...
total uptime no, but can be good if you need multiple uses in a row or have pulls planned around it
turbid shuttle
Does Defender's Aegis give you more shield wall uptime in a dungeon? I see peopl...
it gives less theoretic uptime, but times you want to press shield wall aren't equally spaced. if you think you're going to need it 2x in short window, then not for a while, it could be useful.
warm plinth
He said and I quote (again) "u should run bsv in high keys so if ur doing 11s+"
shrewd ore
well high keys kinda implies that ur in danger of dying no?
torpid merlin
Thank you both that makes sense. I can think of a couple dungeon pulls where it would be nice to cast back to back.
turbid shuttle
Thank you both that makes sense. I can think of a couple dungeon pulls where it ...
I probably wouldn't bother unless you have a specific use case in mind and a good reason for it. just imo. your talents etc.
waxen frigate
Thank you both that makes sense. I can think of a couple dungeon pulls where it ...
it's pretty rare but it does occur sometimes yea
in 99% of situations you would prefer the CDR
warm plinth
well high keys kinda implies that ur in danger of dying no?
No, it doesn't. Because of the nature of that particular defensive, there's no situation where you go from not needing it to needing it because you passed one arbitrary key level line.
torpid merlin
it's pretty rare but it does occur sometimes yea
I'm specifically thinking of siege and Stonevault
shrewd ore
No, it doesn't. Because of the nature of that particular defensive, there's no ...
isn't +12 exactly that keyline currently?
warm plinth
No, why would it be? Think of how that defensive works
turbid shuttle
+30% damage taken. just play better. ez pz.
shrewd ore
why would it be? lmao did u read the affix
warm plinth
You have to go from being fine to suddenly being under 30% with no other alternatives to use
waxen frigate
which specific mechanics
just to reiterate: double wall should only be played if you are using it for specific mechanics that you cannot otherwise play around without it
shrewd ore
You have to go from being fine to suddenly being under 30% with no other alterna...
but these alternatives are dwinling in high keys, that's the reason u see ppl use tank trinkets, spec stamina talents, etc
u need to get baseline tankier + tankier for spikes to have the same survivability as in idk 10s
odd delta
a guide said intimidating shout is good for m+. wouldnt it potentially pull nearby mobs though? wondering why it's considered good
lusty grotto
oh boy, another one of these convos
jagged gust
storm bolt is single target, shout is aoe, but yes same purpose, different scales
odd delta
cool. saw wowhead's opener suggest taunting during the charge. what would that do?
lusty grotto
its good practice
jagged gust
good for bosses/prio targets, as many classes will have big burst and sometimes trinkets that do insane instant damage
lusty grotto
since the mob will be stuck on you until you set up the opener
it helps for pressing gcds that have no immediate threat gain (like demo shout)
jagged gust
That being said, there's nothing I'm willing to give up to talent in to it
tepid reef
Are +6 and +7 supposed to just be bashing my face in right now at 611?
Like, i rotate through my cds and all that, pulling 2 packs seems to generally require shield wall etc
tepid reef
Okay i will focus on shield block a bit more
jagged gust
Back hits and not using spell block enough are also some of the regular offenders for spiky damage intake
pallid quiver
Are +6 and +7 supposed to just be bashing my face in right now at 611?
Like, i ...
There should only be specific mechanics that chew into you at all, especially if you're in def stance
sharp gale
Finally got curve in pug
smoky anvil
Getting better at spell block usage is big. Really helps some shitty pulls.
tepid reef
I mostly press it on cd in packs where i see a spell being cast :/ which is... obviously not great
jagged gust
it's definitely a start simply using them at all
but yeah, if you want to push, you gotta study up on the mobs a bit
sharp gale
Like if a specific pack hurts you go on mdt to see what they do
high wyvern
is there a reason why all the top rated IO Prot Warrior run cheat death talent while the guide recommend Ravager instead? how do I know when to use which talent
tepid reef
Cheat death = saved two minutes on your key because you killed the pack instead of wiping
cheat death is very very very good
high wyvern
hes running a much different build than what I was recommended
torpid merlin
Yoda lol
tepid reef
Oh no ravager AT ALL, thought you mean the follow up talent.
odd delta
here's top 100 heatmap
inner wren
I don't need to be 2900 io to know how to play the spec. Nome and Mwahi write the guides to the spec and neither of them are 2900 io, but we trust them because they've proven that they know what they're talking about. I don't spread misinformation and my time in this server has proven that. You can choose to listen or not listen, but I won't let you spread misinformation if I'm here to call you out on it.
odd delta
that may help you make a choice
lusty grotto
i dont run BSV
tepid reef
huh, im dropping ravager then lol
lusty grotto
its not needed
lusty grotto
huh, im dropping ravager then lol
dont
odd delta
i dropped ravager cause im new at tanking, rather have the safety
lusty grotto
drop Shield Charge and Champions
high wyvern
so both ravager and BSV are good? just personal preference?
high wyvern
how about this I also saw some prot warr running this
lusty grotto
drop bloodsurge for that
sharp gale
so both ravager and BSV are good? just personal preference?
They run keys you would very likely get one shoted by something it’s your preference
solemn badger
how much haste before we switch to into the fray?
high wyvern
so i guess either ur new or running very very high key, then run BSV. But ur weekly 9s 10s probs dont need BSV?
lusty grotto
35-40
odd delta
why is ravager considered so important?
odd delta
ah i see
high wyvern
is it the same argument between cheat death trinket vs dps trinket for tanks last expansion?
lusty grotto
eh
red otter
I don't need to be 2900 io to know how to play the spec. Nome and Mwahi write t...
io is a metric to see how much you no life the game rather than your skill level
lusty grotto
its kinda different i suppose
high wyvern
people kept telling me if u played well u should never need a cheat death talent / trinket
torpid merlin
Nim, any thoughts on why Yoda is running thunderous roar instead of spear?
high wyvern
but i do be making mistakes sometimes
sharp gale
is it the same argument between cheat death trinket vs dps trinket for tanks las...
More likely that builds are personals so do whatever you want
lusty grotto
i cant answer for yoda
warm plinth
people kept telling me if u played well u should never need a cheat death talent...
Common misconception, BSV is NOT a cheat death
red otter
people kept telling me if u played well u should never need a cheat death talent...
Most of them they're not very good. Stonescales was very good last xpac however.
warm plinth
If you go from 31% HP to 0, you still die
red otter
And like you see people like that on these class discords but I feel that good cheat death trinkets are keysavers.
But really your choice
high wyvern
ye if a dps die its w/e, if a tank die the key probs brick most of the time
but then i guess if u never proc the talent its kinda a waste
tepid reef
It procs all the time because I'm bad :P
red otter
It procs all the time because I'm bad :P
lol, you should aim for that not to be the case but backup is always nice.
high wyvern
same tbh
turbid shuttle
if it procs all the time you should probably keep it, and then analyze your keys for when it goes off so you can play better
if it never procs then sure it's free to drop
red otter
I was playing blood last xpac, and the blood discord was always going off on people for having it but it remained popular among the class regardless.
tepid reef
What are the best "tank" trinkets for m+?
high wyvern
when i asked if i needed most of the answers were: "just get good u dont need it" 😦
red otter
when i asked if i needed most of the answers were: "just get good u dont need it...
yeah the blood discord is really toxic
turbid shuttle
this is extremely common in tank discords. "you don't need it", despite all high level players playing it. "yea but you're not playing at their key level". No, I'm also not playing at their skill level so 🤷 . it's mostly gatekeepy nonsense from good-but-not-great players.
sharp gale
What are the best "tank" trinkets for m+?
Ara Kara and swarmlord in my opinion
high wyvern
i take this even tho its not the "optimal" talents but I cant bring myself to trust pugs to interrupt lol
sharp gale
I didn’t get the swarmlord in guild raid forgot to change loot spec so I rolled as off-spec lol
turbid shuttle
the argument for keeping ravager (to drop sc) is also super weak to me. sc with champ bulwark gives almost the same rage as ravager over time, plus a free revenge and shield block. if you count the implicit rage from those (which tbf doesn't count towards AM etc.), it gives more.
rocky kraken
had last boss of NW bug out and send me down https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iMqGq0Wz4voGXxEyI?invite=cr-MSx2M0UsMjU2MzU5OTIwLA
tepid reef
I generally trust people to interrupt, just not to interrupt the important thing
rocky kraken
all my dps died and when it sent me up boss was still at 20 and dps flew up to boss
20%
tepid reef
Ara Kara and swarmlord in my opinion
ceaseless swarmgland or sacbrood?
sharp gale
ceaseless swarmgland or sacbrood?
Sacbrood and swarmlord authority
torpid merlin
I generally trust people to interrupt, just not to interrupt the important thing
Felt that one in my soul
lusty grotto
the argument for keeping ravager (to drop sc) is also super weak to me. sc with ...
no, it doesnt
because ravager scales with haste
and target count
SC doesnt
turbid shuttle
ravager scales with target count?
warm plinth
RIP Kris Kristofferson 😦
turbid shuttle
I checked logs it hit 5 times even in aoe
sc with bulwark gives 40 rage per cast, every 45s. ravager is 50 (60 with lust) every 1.5 mins. sc with bulwark gives more.
bulwark alone gives almost as much
plus the free block/revenge
turbid shuttle
bolster also gives less shield block than sc with bulwark
lusty grotto
if the difference is that small, why would you put a talent point
no it doesnt
cause bolster ignores the duration cap
turbid shuttle
15s every 3m vs 8s every 45s no?
turbid shuttle
ok so you agree that sc+bulwark gives both more rage and more sb than ravager + bolster
turbid shuttle
ok then go look at the numbers and get back to me lol
lusty grotto
why are you ignoring bolster bypassing the duration cap?
and only being 1 talent point?
look at the numbers
im putting it plain and simple
1 talent
1 talent point
sand pebble
Jumping in on my lunch break - spending rage on Sb > extending it fir free cause rage spent = better for am/indomitable:)
lusty grotto
with minimal difference
turbid shuttle
sry key
lusty grotto
and ignoring SB duration
turbid shuttle
cap doesn't matter
lusty grotto
why not?
if youre extending SB with HR
why wouldnt it matter?
it means you press SB less
so overall you will have the same availability and uptime
WITH ONE TALENT POINT INSTEAD OF TWO
if youre doing BSV, you do not care about dps
you care about surviving
the argument that SC does slightly more is inconsequential
and this conversation is fucking tiring
if you want BSV
you drop SC + Champs Bulwark
and you pick up BSV + Bolster
thats it
there's 0 numbers in favor of dropping ravager
and "because streamer did it" is not a reason
quasi pivot
i take this even tho its not the "optimal" talents but I cant bring myself to tr...
Tbh being able to group up nasty multi-caster spread packs by pummeling one then shouting the rest is really nice
lusty grotto
or because "i copy pasted from an aggregate site"
simple drum
this is extremely common in tank discords. "you don't need it", despite all high...
This is some of the silliest logic I’ve ever seen in a class discord
What are you even trying to say here
lusty grotto
honestly i just fail to understand why they even join discords if thats how they think
thats the 2nd time ive heard something along those lines today
if their choices are good enough and they feel that way about discords, why join them in the first place? they have their answers so whats there to talk about?
simple drum
Also what does the skill level you play at have to do with what you need/don’t need compared to what a better player needs/doesn’t need
Like, if you don’t need it, you don’t need it
Other players who are better wouldn’t change that
inland raft
If anything it doubles down in why should pick the discord recommended build. If you arent at their skill level then you arent doing their key level and you dont know what their mindset is inside their group that influences their deviation from the recommended build
But also at the same time. Taking it or not taking it doesnt matter tank dps varrying by 2-5% isnt going to make or break a key so play what you want
simple drum
If anything it doubles down in why should pick the discord recommended build. If...
Yeah of course, it’s the reason I take the double Shield Wall talent even though it’s technically worse, I’m just not that good of a player and I know I’m not
So it helps me way more lol
lusty gulch
!plater
red otter
Also what does the skill level you play at have to do with what you need/don’t n...
Isnt that what he's saying?
patent bear
lusty grotto
wherever you feel you need it
high wyvern
Tbh being able to group up nasty multi-caster spread packs by pummeling one the...
its like a pseudo aoe grip lol
turbid shuttle
why not?
everything you are saying is wrong. let's compare sc+bulwark to rav+bolster.
on rage, sc+bulwark gives 40 per 45s, or 80 per 90s. ravager gives 50 per 90s (60 in lust). winner: sc+bulwark.
on shield block uptime, sc+bulwark gives 8s per 45s, or 32s per 3 min. bolster gives 15s per 3 min. winnter: sc+bulwark. (you also make some point about HR which is irrelevant, since it applies to both).
the only thing left is damage. ravager gives more aoe, but sc gives more ST. whatever.
high wyvern
turbid shuttle
ok so you have no rebuttal. got it.
lusty grotto
@ionic fern @strong forum can you take a look at what Papashlapa is saying? on: dropping Ravager for BSV vs dropping SC + Champs Bulwark and getting Bolster
no i just dont want to get into it
you already said your piece
about class discords
so convince the mods
turbid shuttle
ok which part is factually incorrect
maybe I am mistaken and sc doesn't give 8s of sb per cast. I dunno.
lusty grotto
tag the mods
and convince them
do you want to change the general opinion of the regulars here? thats how
turbid shuttle
ok but you are personally adamant on this point, so much so that you flame anybody that says otherwise, yet cannot defend it.
turbid shuttle
ok fair enough
high wyvern
anyone have a weakaura for seeing red/ violent outburst together?
onyx hearth
I know yodatv is a great player, but isn't you losing a lot by not taking alacrity? Isn't losing 8% armor huge?
onyx hearth
So why does he choose too?
lusty grotto
some of them have theorycrafting people
others just pick and choose on a whim
and do not care about the math
hollow hill
Is mad queen's mandate affected by the whole dps trinkets being nerfed for tanks?
lusty grotto
yes, but its still pretty massive regardless
warm plinth
If it does damage, it's affected. If it gives stats, it's not. I believe that is the rule.
But being affected doesn't immediately mean bad trinket
onyx hearth
But to achieve high keys you have to be optimized for a certain point right?
warm plinth
Optimized for a certain potion? What do you mean?
onyx hearth
Point* sorry
warm plinth
Well, yes and no
Tanking is about surviving in the end. If you're doing that, then you're generally going to do alright.
high wyvern
top io players arent always right, but they probs pick the talents on purpose its not like they do it for no reason
onyx hearth
Yodatv by not taking alacrity, he is sacrificing a LOT of survivability, right?
warm plinth
He's losing a significant amount. But if he's not dying because of it, then 🤷
For tanks, and pwar especially, pressing the right buttons at the right time is 95% of our survival, if not more.
tepid reef
It looks like was prioriting defensive cd uptime and aoe interrupt/silence over the armor in the protection tree, which is a reasonable choice to be making if that's what his group needs
I wouldn't do it because im not pulling that big, meh
high wyvern
ye im sure it was a conscious decision not like "pick these talents for fun"
onyx hearth
Yes of course, that's why I'm trying to understand why
lusty grotto
at lot of the time r1 players pick what they need, not as much as what it offers
in terms of raw stats etc
onyx hearth
For my head, the armor from alacrity is huge
high wyvern
it might not does max amount of DPS, but it can esnsures he will never die (cheat death talent), or more interrupts on demand (disrupting shouts)
lusty grotto
yeah pretty much
high wyvern
mathematically it probs not the best min max DPS build but he probs choose it for a reason
tepid reef
Thoughts on the champion spear + roughly 10% strength vs 2% crit and roar?
lusty grotto
so its not as simple as that, but i suppose it sums it up
tepid reef
Does the 2% crit on tree buff parry?
lusty grotto
rating buffs parry
tepid reef
ah okay thank you
lusty grotto
cruel strikes shouldn't, unless im mistaken
tepid reef
you're correct
10% strength is roughly 10% increased damage across the board right? Just everything scales with it?
lusty grotto
everything scales with AP
tepid reef
Gonan be honest, attack power isn't on my default character display
lusty grotto
and strength turns into AP
yeah its kinda not important
str to ap should be 1:1
so largely unimportant to have something labeled as AP
so yeah youre correct in your assumption
depending on how the attack scales with AP (and hence STR)
tepid reef
wait to take big dam before pressing defensive button (ie ignore pain) instead of before. Press uhhhh runetap or something as walk into packs (im sure there's other buttons to),
lusty grotto
its not that hard
you build 7-8 stacks of bone shield, and then alternate depending if you have or need runic power
between heart strike and death strike
thats the basic
strong needle
how do you single pull the mobs at the end of CoT
solemn current
Charge, interrupt, back up to doorway. Or have a range kick it.
plush tendon
wait to take big dam before pressing defensive button (ie ignore pain) instead o...
no rune tap
bad
south zealot
how tf do people play bdk
build runic power and spend it
spending runic power gives you hp and a shield
nova rover
Hey guys, on Heroic Nexus Princess, whats the timing of cooldowns to knot get insta gibbed
round cliff
build runic power and spend it
u gotta play the tombstone minigame tho
nova rover
Is it when she starts the stack of the tank debuffs?
round cliff
and reaper's mark minigame now too
plush tendon
BDK has three reasources to manage; Runes, Boneshield, and Runic Power
screwing one up, screws up your econ for the others
but you should have plenty of boneshields to spend on Tombstone and Bonestorm
DRW gives 5 for free, bonestorm costs 5 (but gives 10 back over 10 seconds) and tombstones costs 5
plus exterminate casts are marrowrends that give boneshield for 1 rune
tepid reef
Hey guys, on Heroic Nexus Princess, whats the timing of cooldowns to knot get in...
Just press demo shot while boss is casting the tank buster is enough to live through it.
but also alternating wall/last stand is good
nova rover
but also alternating wall/last stand is good
The tank buster is that spell she stacks 4 times?
nova rover
Thank you so very much
proud dock
anyone know how many shots it takes to kill the packs in the first area of grim batol?
tepid reef
I tend to only fire the big dmg on the way back to not overkill,
it doesnt reallllyyyy matter
proud dock
is it possible to kill all
raven zealot
kinda annoyed at spell reflect in some of these dungeons
inner wren
why would you be annoyed with an op spell
raven zealot
cause its just so inconsistent
some spells you can reflect to just block the damage but it doesnt do any damage back
some spells do insane damage if you reflect
some do nothing
lusty grotto
welcome to prot warrior
raven zealot
also unless im really stupid you cant reflect on 2nd boss of necrotic
since its always targeting you even when the spell isnt on you
raven zealot
also i didnt play prot in shadowlands, was the attacks from last boss always blockable?
lusty grotto
yes
at the very start of s1 it wasnt
but
they added the blockable part sometime after
and it stayed as is for all 3 SL seasons
and then this version has that
raven zealot
damn i didnt know this, thats actually pretty nice
merry sluice
that is the prot wariror experience tbh
"oh this is cool"
"WHAT THE FUCK WHY DOESNT THIS WORK"
"OH THIS FEELS SICK"
"fuck this class"
fickle ingot
lusty grotto
i have no idea what just happened on this siege
fury and mw monk died twice to 3rd pull frontal which i was aiming sideways
2 wipes
keep going
clearing boss room, they pull boss
i run out to reset
they stay?
then they kick me from group, without saying a word
lol
i guess i dodged a bullet
lusty grotto
mwahi can you take a look at what i tagged you with earlier?
ionic fern
I pull everything,deal all the damage and then get kicked before the last boss.
lusty grotto
ionic fern
Good times.
lusty grotto
LOL
ionic fern
mwahi can you take a look at what i tagged you with earlier?
Soon'ish. Getting into work and a meeting right now.
round pendant
this is extremely common in tank discords. "you don't need it", despite all high...
ai generated avatar + bad opinion
lusty grotto
ah yes morning monday meetings that could have been a fucking email, my favorite
you know whats my absolute favorite though?
round pendant
What people don't seem to realise is +10s and below are easy enough that you can make half a dozen sub-optimal choices and still be fine
doesn't mean it's correct tho
round pendant
Also: gatekeeping is good, actually
lusty grotto
stand ups, in waterfall, not agile, maintenance, not new development, projects
i swear every morning i wanna keep myself safe if you catch my drift 😄
round pendant
yeah same
lusty grotto
😦
warm plinth
I love when people use project management styles and then use them wrong
lusty grotto
pls dont say that yam, ill need you
round pendant
the whole obsession with micromanaging in tech is super crinky crongemas
lusty grotto
yeah
round pendant
just shits on productivity
lusty grotto
my current Project Manager is so fucking bad
and the worst part is, shes my PM on 3 projects because the company doesnt want to move me to other projects cause i have the most experience on these ones
so... ive been launching a barrage of resumes
round pendant
It's why I gave up on programming
lusty grotto
trust
round pendant
Bajillionth useless fuckin meeting killing my flow
lusty grotto
bad management is the bane of every single dev experience, and is the root of every single bad decision
but you know what the worst part is
GOOD PMs actually make an insane difference
its wild
placid frigate
How is Foul Behemoth's Chelicera trinket?
Currently using Siphoning Lightbrand and Quickwick Candle
oblique quarry
plus exterminate casts are marrowrends that give boneshield for 1 rune
Why is this more in depth and less passive aggressive than the actual bdk server. Skyhold is the best disc hands down.
lusty grotto
some people say otherwise 😎
tender reef
just shits on productivity
You guys just mad that someone actually wants you to work for your 500k salary 😂😂
oblique quarry
Idk, ive been in here for a few years and y’all have made me a much better player 🤷
ionic fern
everything you are saying is wrong. let's compare sc+bulwark to rav+bolster.
on ...
I did not read further up too much,so maybe i missed some points,but..
Bolster makes LS into a 2m CD.
Using SC as a "let me keep SB" up CD means you are going to be sitting on it..a lot. You want to send it on CD for the damage and rage part which in turn leads to potentially wasted SB up-time from it. We don't naturally have a lot of SB down-time right now,especially in m+ with traveling between packs giving time for SB to recharge. Bolster on the other hand can be used specifically to cover SB down-times when needed as we don't send it randomly on CD. You're not "wrong" per-se tho. 🙂
round pendant
You guys just mad that someone actually wants you to work for your 500k salary �...
Damn you're stupid
lusty grotto
i wish i was earning half a mil
round pendant
They can be
lusty grotto
applying agile methodology to waterfall projects is
which is what i was talking about
tender reef
applying agile methodology to waterfall projects is
Wut
round pendant
exactly
lusty grotto
yeah
ionic fern
applying agile methodology to waterfall projects is
What is this cursed message..
lusty grotto
indeed it is cursed
tender reef
Write your CEO an email get the guy fired
lusty grotto
but alas its exactly as it sounds
round pendant
lol
tepid reef
Do i have to agro any of the slugs during tred'ova
round pendant
what's a tred'ova
merry sluice
yesn't
ionic fern
Really? I never paid attention to them..they used to be a fixate in a person.
merry sluice
they dont fixate before the first consume
ionic fern
lusty grotto
yup
merry sluice
u need threat before first consume
round pendant
that's how desperate people are for tanks
merry sluice
meanwhile my 620 bdk can't make a GB to save its fucking soul
i keep getitng passed for fucking bears
round pendant
my GB is still stuck at +5 because I can't find a single group running it and my keys never reroll into it
ionic fern
that's how desperate people are for tanks
Tbf, a +3 is stupid easy. People just overinflate itemlevel requirements for keys.
round pendant
people overinflated ilvl requirements in general
ionic fern
I don't think i dropped low there ..ever.
merry sluice
i almost timed a 10 gb 3 times in the first week, but the healer kept going full fucking ape mode on last boss
doing the dumbest shit
round pendant
Couldn't get in a hc raid with my friend (605 ilvl, fdk + holy priest) because we're 5 ilvls too low apparently
so sad
lusty grotto
people hate priests right now idk why
disc/holy i mean
my friend needs to group with me to do keys
and hes a god-tier healer
ionic fern
GB last boss can be spicy indeed. It's kinda horribly designed from the point of having to pickup adds coming from every direction while getting knocked back and trying to avoid tentacles at the same time.
merry sluice
i hate priests bc im tired of watching bad ones get oneshot constantly
but im personally against shitty fotm shammy and pres re-rolls personally
merry sluice
GB last boss can be spicy indeed. It's kinda horribly designed from the point of...
don't forget healer somehow positioning themselves directly in the middle of the adds and instnatly getting aggro then losing their mind
merry sluice
walk towards the tank that got knocked back? lol no
priest fade? never heard of her
lusty grotto
"hey tank is it possible to get agro" after wiping 3 times
and im like... yeah if you arent standing in africa
merry sluice
mhm ;x
lusty grotto
killed boss immediately after
round pendant
I had a druid tank on GB instantly die to the adds when he did get aggro
no saving that group
merry sluice
my favourite was still getting yelled at for aggro on frog boss in hoi last season by a pres evoker
fucking diabolical lol
round pendant
looked at the log, 30s since he last pressed ironfur
lusty grotto
LOL
merry sluice
tanks disrespect the shit out of hatchlings too don't get me wrong
they have fucking hands.
But i'm tired of watching peopel immediately send aggro on them and instantly going TANK!1!!??
tender reef
GB last boss can be spicy indeed. It's kinda horribly designed from the point of...
And the healer telling you, tank has nothing to do I have to heal so you go and collect addsthen boss knockbacks you in tentacle, healer leaves
tardy burrow
and im like... yeah if you arent standing in africa
This shit drives me nuts. Not on that boss, but in general. Ranged DPS would be just sitting in Narnia casting and then aggroing pats. Staying closer make things so much easier for healing, add control and not ass pulling shit.
merry sluice
treemouth brackenhide...
2nd boss dawnbringer
"oh adds targeted me? nah im gonna sit at max range"
lusty grotto
xD
cerulean tusk
This is the way
merry sluice
but damn man, these past two weeks ahve been BRUTAL