no flame, just curious
#protection
zealous goblet
devout siren
Yeah I just started running prot this season. I'm a rookie, but tracking shield block + ignore pain uptime and its decent
graceful kite
this build isnt good for your level of keys play the recommended one from wowhead/icy veins
it will be better defensively even
devout siren
alrite, cheers š I will switch back then
graceful kite
dont be conservative with your cooldown, press shield wall whenever you have it up and something else if you don't have shield wall up
devout siren
Just got absolutely melted in gb pre nerf in a +7 with that build, felt bad for my healer. at ilv 605 or so
graceful kite
shield wall with recommended build has arounr 40sec-1 minute cooldown and you have it for every pull
cold pilot
Anyone here done Zekvir ??
zealous goblet
Yeah I just started running prot this season. I'm a rookie, but tracking shield ...
A FEW NOTES! all new prot warriors fall for some of this, myself included.
shield block can be stacked. you don't need to track an 8 second timer, just send your charges unless you're about to overcap at like 22/24 seconds.
ignore pain is a rage dump. do not track the uptime of it. it should have good uptime from a good rotation. send an ignore pain at 60-70 rage only. this will leave you 35ish rage to revenge for a shield slam reset or a shield block.
don't run this build right now. i'm not super elitist, this is coming from a fellow... not so experienced player. prot warrior is a mitigation tank. you are either dead, or full hp. if you're full hp you're doing everything right. if you're dying, you either need to rotate defensive cds, make sure you're not being hit from behind, or doing mechanics properly
devout siren
dont be conservative with your cooldown, press shield wall whenever you have it ...
Alrite cheers, I feel like I'm using it off of cd but I can probably work on that as well
graceful kite
Alrite cheers, I feel like I'm using it off of cd but I can probably work on tha...
with this build you have a talent that gives you 2 charges of it, recommended uses other option that your shield slam generated more rage and reduces shield wall cooldown
zealous goblet
so you shouldn't need so many defensives and kicks just yet
graceful kite
with shield slam being you most important to press button even in aoe situation because of its rage gain and damage it makes wall cd increadibly short
devout siren
with this build you have a talent that gives you 2 charges of it, recommended us...
Yeah I know š I will change back and try š
devout siren
A FEW NOTES! all new prot warriors fall for some of this, myself included.
shie...
Cheers, I actually had no idea about the shield block stack. That will make it easier to have decent uptime
zealous goblet
Cheers, I actually had no idea about the shield block stack. That will make it e...
final notes, ignore pain DOES stack too, but as i said, it doesn't matter. you mainly use it to heal for the rage consumption and minor mitigation, even when it's fully stacked
devout siren
Now of that I'm aware at least š Cheers guys, thank you for the help. I will take your advice to heart
fluid widget
How do people decide between colossus and MT for keys? Iāve only done MT but curious to see the other side of things
zealous goblet
remember to enjoy yourself and don't be afraid to brick keys lad
i brick many keys limit testing
zealous goblet
How do people decide between colossus and MT for keys? Iāve only done MT but cur...
colossus is for fun or when content is too easy and on farm. mountain thane is just superior otherwise
cold pilot
I can't even come close to killing Zekvir ?? and it's driving me insane lol
zealous goblet
better mitigation, namely.
jagged pier
I can't even come close to killing Zekvir ?? and it's driving me insane lol
What are u struggling with on it?
I did it yesterday not too bad about has hard as original mage tower
I put it
cold pilot
Cant seem to kick everything enough
I wish I had a way to wipe enfeebling like hunters do, so i didnt have to kick it every time lol
cold pilot
Brann seems to want to take a break when I need him the most lol
cold pilot
I'm learning!
zealous goblet
GOD DAMN AUTO MOD
zealous goblet
I'm learning!
you can also statcheck... the pest... eventually
brann goes up to level 60. season isn't over for like 3 months
so expect like 20% more brann damage and like 20 ilvls worth of stuff
jagged pier
I can upload my kill if ppl think that will help
robust urchin
I can upload my kill if ppl think that will help
What spec and curios did you have on your bran
jagged pier
Dps
robust urchin
I mostly struggle with killing the addw
jagged pier
Scope and amorfous
robust urchin
Everything else is fine
cold pilot
I think my major setback is my autism. I can't function with too many keybinds
wait whjich combat curio?
zealous goblet
wait whjich combat curio?
i hate you
i have like 2 r4s after nearly 100 delves
i have not been blessed
jagged pier
How?
cold pilot
jagged pier
I have them all
cold pilot
Are you doing 8s? I think eventually they drop at the end of every run
jagged pier
I think they cone from bountifuls
cold pilot
yeah bountifuls
zealous goblet
YOU LIKE THAT R1 PORECLAIN?
I'VE BEEN DOING MY BOUNTIFULS
IT'S AN INSIDE JOB
I HAVE R4 ZEKVIR BLOOD
I GUESS
THAZT'S PRETTY NEAT
game is racist.
IT'S OK
I GUESS I'M NOT WORTHY
violet ginkgo
wait whjich combat curio?
I like porcelain & amorphous
violet ginkgo
YOU LIKE THAT R1 PORECLAIN?
Yes I like them 
cold pilot
So what should I use on Zek instead?
robust urchin
So what should I use on Zek instead?
Jakey is probably talking about the one where Brann aims at you and shoots in that direction doing damage
cold pilot
ty ā¤ļø
tribal wharf
the hall at 3rd boss is really cancerous to fight
tons of eggs that spawn adds, and the main dudes have knockback
so you think, okay, ill just take them to the stairs so i dont get knocked into the eggs
cold pilot
wait you can kick the knockback though
tribal wharf
but then the stairs, if you get knocked damage you take fall dmg and die, only way to live that is float or heroic leap
3rd boss trash threads is bullshit
jagged pier
it's beyond me
hes playing well and has a good group around him probably
narrow hull
Itās like 2-3 kicks lol
jagged pier
or just has a good group around him
cold pilot
Itās like 2-3 kicks lol
You should have 5 people in your party, most with a kick that is off cd by the second time they knockback
narrow hull
You should have 5 people in your party, most with a kick that is off cd by the s...
Yeah itās a nothing burger. Very trivial.
tribal wharf
telling grouo kick literal anything kickable on kick cd seems to work to make key easy
always have ao much less problems when that happens and happier healer
cuz its not heal bolted guy, heal bolted guy, dispel, aoe, tank bust, bolted guy
umbral kernel
I don't really think Colossus is so much worse
I wonder if they rely on ignore pain a lot
jagged pier
no
umbral kernel
or just maintain shield block and use cooldowns for almost every pull
jagged pier
and have a good healer
robust urchin
All warriors rely on that to cope with the general vibe
umbral kernel
like for real, look at this talent tree from one of top runs :
No indomitable
Battering ram wtf
Immovable object
umbral kernel
Thunderlord AND Show of force man
jagged pier
by group
umbral kernel
that man is being carried
bro it's this player : https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackrock/Shuhwar
tribal wharf
one of the low baby thread keys i ran someone was really mad at th3 priest cuzthey were talking about kicks done, apparently priest only did his cc silence thjng once in 20 minutes
dark plover
Crafting 636 shoulders is generally a good idea right since we wouldnāt want a set piece there anyway? @jagged pier
jagged pier
i mean are u likely to get myth track shoulders?
jagged pier
that doesnt answer my question
tribal wharf
u will be equiping at least 1 piece of non haste set gear for 4 piece
karmic plinth
hideous
jagged pier
will u do 10s regularly?
dark plover
How likely am I to get it in vault?
tribal wharf
3/5 have haste
dark plover
Yes Iām
jagged pier
then no
cold pilot
I'm wearing 5pc cause I cant find another pair of shoulders š
jagged pier
cause u are likely to get shoulders at some point in the season
cold pilot
Where we droppin' boys?
tribal wharf
tomatoe town
dark plover
With the vault rng itās bad to bet on it imo
dark plover
I think shoulders is a āsafeā bet for crafting for people who donāt raid.
tribal wharf
days of old we had as many as 5
cold pilot
Yo why is our 4pc so doggy poopoo?
cold pilot
but like what were they thinking.. shield slam crits make thunderclap do more damage?
narrow hull
shuhwar is not being carried
You canāt go against some discord logic and actually play the game like a normal human being.
tribal wharf
as thane main i am okay with clap getting boost
cold pilot
I really hope tier 2 isnt as shit, all im sayin
devout siren
A FEW NOTES! all new prot warriors fall for some of this, myself included.
shie...
Cheers guys, just tried a +5 now and your tips improved my uptime on shield block by 12% š Using it on CD and stacking it, around. 82% uptime, room for improvemnt but a lot better. Downprioritized ignore pain, which landed at 70% uptime instead of my normal around 86. Instead of using ignore pain as a def cd I had a lot more rage for damage which helped me keep aggro.
tribal wharf
protip, you want lots of crit cuz it converts directly into parry
so youd be having more ss crits and its uo more, i imagine with enough can get big value from 4pc, lil coping tho
robust urchin
tomatoe town
zealous goblet
Cheers guys, just tried a +5 now and your tips improved my uptime on shield bloc...
<3
tribal wharf
towers too many fuckers walking around, i liked starting junkyard too
i didnt play fortnite for a long period of time but in season 4 i got lvl 100 battlepass
and i even won a game that season solo
umbral kernel
shuhwar is not being carried
no of course not
but his talents setups are weird asf
candid escarp
Quick question - I'm approaching my first gilded crest upgrade, I have a 619 crafted weapon and shield, which one upgrade first?
cerulean tusk
Shield got prio, as block value is our bread and butter value piece
Question is: Will you get easy access to a 639 shield or nah
cerulean tusk
I would hold for weekly vault then, if ya dont get it, craft it
candid escarp
TY my dude
wanton wing
Hi guys, new to prot warrior. Got 3 sparks to spend, my main target is going to be m+ at the moment, maybe raid later on
im wondering what combo should i go for
looking at raider io i see few top prots going for weapon + ascendance
and weapon + x2 linking on equipment
any suggetions for newbie?
cyan drum
wondering how much haste is too much haste for us ?
inland raft
So i get the high end players running bsv going into 13s because things hurt so much by why double wall? Isnt it less wall time?
graceful kite
wondering how much haste is too much haste for us ?
When it stops simming best
stable shard
cdr and rage is better
tribal wharf
does world souls count as WQ
for zone chest
says i need to do 1 wq but thre is noe lol
normal kelp
how many sparks we supposed to be at? 2.5?
normal kelp
gg
tribal wharf
3
i have shield ring and spark in bag
check ur bank
it will go into reagent
not the WB
peak light
Would you guys keep Wings of Shattered Sorrow/Sureki Zealot's Insignia on champion track vs a hero track item? I'm not sure how to rate the effects on them
toxic pewter
I was in similar situation where I am using champion sureki insignia and I had the hero version in my vault.. I ended up choosing mythic pants because I guess I valued the mythic track stats etc on a pants slot over hero neck even that very rare one... still not sure I made the right choice but that is what I did
that neck is bis for the record and it is only replaced by itself, so it may actually be the right choice to take it
neon elk
that neck is bis for the record and it is only replaced by itself, so it may act...
For me crafted neck sims quite higher than HC version of it ( 626 vs 636) it doesnt account for versa for someone else so in overal the gap will be closer but still. Even if its bis difference is realy small.
The very rare back seems bit useles for us, if u got it its nice but nothing im gona chase personaly. ( at least till mythic raid)
tribal wharf
today trinket farm continued
which one
dusky canopy
Running back to back Stonevaults until i have neck and trinket
seen both drop multiple times for others
normal kelp
is crafting neck a grief?
neon elk
Did they realy fixed zekvir reflect?
stable shard
guys how do you dodge the overlap in 3rd boralus ?
we got stomped while waves
make us deplete
apparently its a tank thing
thats was the setup xd
how could i manage to have the boss not looking at the grp
ornate sky
I let dps stand near the column while I'm much further away
so he runs past them to frontal me
warm plinth
Top tier diagram
stable shard
paint skills
ornate sky
like this
sweet summit
what the hell is the counterplay to orb x eye of the storm overlap on 2nd boss arakara
normal kelp
is crafting neck a grief?
boreal haven
Thx for the Advice to go Thane. Goddamn is it fun and powerfull !!
tidal valley
is blood surge giga for overall rage in a dungeon?
i really want it but i cant find a nice way to get it
neon elk
what the hell is the counterplay to orb x eye of the storm overlap on 2nd boss a...
Rng , or someone with imunity picking them up outside
calm sentinel
recommendations for third craft on an alt?
tribal wharf
we got stomped while waves
thats for the line
cuz, if everyone stacked, and the line goes on during wave, gg
turbid shuttle
did they fix the line not hitting on the statue? if not, just have group stand on statue during waves.
tribal wharf
what i mean is his frontal line
turbid shuttle
that is also what I mean
tribal wharf
not the line of waves
turbid shuttle
the frontal line did not hit on the statue
tribal wharf
im not sure if it works the way you say
turbid shuttle
it 1000% did last week. I haven't explicitly tested this week.
quazii even put out a vid about it iirc
tribal wharf
well, im 90% sure it used to be that line would also create a high damage void zone for each dot it created
so you wanted to be closer to edge, but then youd get 1 shot by wave
turbid shuttle
unfortunately we live in 10% world then. the void zones from from the puddles not the line shot
turbid shuttle
I actually kinda like it tbh. least lame boss in that dungeon.
tulip remnant
i still extremely hate fighting that boss
All of SoB*
normal kelp
is crafting neck ok to do? i crafted my weps already
peak oar
I have no rage, shield slam and thunder clap are on CD
do I just afk until I get a shield slam proc or what
toxic pewter
yeah do a quick bio
peak oar
that feels so awful
peak oar
wat
rocky dove
Do the free avatar procs of the Moutain Thane capstone also activate the other effects that trigger off Avatar in that talent?
mellow quartz
It's amazing how easy it actually is to leap the last boss in Ara Kara on his suck in
warm plinth
BOB LEPONGE
mellow quartz
he even gives you a clue where you toon does little 'jump'
peak oar
It's amazing how easy it actually is to leap the last boss in Ara Kara on his su...
once you realized there are 3 stages of pulling, it's pretty easy to time it..
First suck is slow
Second is faster
Third is really fast and that's when you jump
if you jump before a stage change, it will grip you in
mellow quartz
once you realized there are 3 stages of pulling, it's pretty easy to time it..
F...
just wait for abt 1s left and you character will be doing a stutter and then you can leap right after
dont have to think almost
tribal wharf
once you realized there are 3 stages of pulling, it's pretty easy to time it..
F...
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obsidian pawn
Hi, why I can't remove embelishment from shield ?
I can with the sword but I can't with the shield
sly heron
Did you craft the embellished shield or the ever forged defender?
obsidian pawn
The wrong one lol my bad
odd delta
how do i know when the group should lust when reading MDT runs?
edgy kindle
Is there something going on with GB 2Āŗ boss and defensives (when you're supposed to run I mean)? I can tank him no problem with Shield Wall, but SW last slightly less than his buff and the last melee one-shots me 100-0 even through Battle Scarred Veteran. With and Without SW
(What I mean is, shouldn't he just one shot me even with SW?)
tender reef
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZdgFjVyYRzAQk9vT#fight=7&type=damage-done 95% dps performance yay 2 seconds over because they failed the second boss lol
any1 can give me some tips on the logs ? ā¤ļø
normal kelp
is crafting neck ok to do? i crafted my weps already
tender reef
normally shield afaik, but if you got a good one do weap
normal kelp
i already crafted shield and wep
its my third spark, should it go to neck? i see a lot of people with bracer
tender reef
oh then it doesnt matter, just a low lvl item you can replace
normal kelp
ok
mellow quartz
Is there something going on with GB 2Āŗ boss and defensives (when you're supposed...
when he gets the mace? you are suppose to kite him, not face tank him
normal kelp
i feel like there arent that many well statted necks tho
the sikran one seems to be the only good one
mellow quartz
you wanna use SW for the flurry tank hit and kite the mace
edgy kindle
when he gets the mace? you are suppose to kite him, not face tank him
Hmmm, I know I'm supposed to run, I was just testing and got confused because of the huge difference with and without SW, I'll just run from now on
mellow quartz
difference between 91% DR and 97% DR when he hits for 140m is way more than your HP
not surprising
pine lotus
Iām surprised that there are more bears than warriors right now for the top IO tanks, I donāt see how they are surviving vs how sturdy warrior is
ornate thicket
its my third spark, should it go to neck? i see a lot of people with bracer
If you are doing 2x duskthread lining then it doesnt work on jewelry or weap and youll want maybe bracers/belt/boots as 3rd craft
patent musk
I crafted shield, thinking of the 2 between neck, wep and shoulder. Pls say which 2 for m+
ornate thicket
Shield > weap > bracers/belt imo
patent musk
I want shoulder as it is highest budget and worst tier piece
inland raft
Long term its wrist/belt because lowest budget and you want to fill reat with 639 from vault/raid
vernal ruin
how good is this? would you take a heroic track item of this?
normal kelp
thats 1 ignore pain
novel shuttle
No stam
vernal ruin
so its bad?
vernal ruin
cool thanks
toxic pewter
let me solo him completed finally mauahahahah
agile elbow
Thank god they nerfed him
toxic pewter
yeah I wont lie does feel kinda tarnished after the nerfs but still happy i did it and def still a little challenging especially since they hotfixed the reflect situation
neon elk
The reflect fix pisses me off so much, everytime i wanna try something they nerf it day before xd
toxic pewter
yeah its a deflect now i think
bronze forge
anyone got any tips on how to deal with anima slash in mists?
bronze forge
hero
tulip remnant
wtf, again turn 1 swords's in yugioh :S
Yugioh is cursed af now.
tulip remnant
The paper tournament players I know are not ok. Itās turning into the average mortgage payment for new decks.
violet ginkgo
Yugioh is cursed af now.
True... crazy how it changes. Previously you still can go for lot more turns, some twist. Now usually turn 1-2-3-4 and usually match end.
not to mention that 1 turn can last giga long because you busy doing your combo playing solitaire
tulip remnant
True... crazy how it changes. Previously you still can go for lot more turns, so...
If you see your second turn, while going second is rare.
violet ginkgo
well I was trying being generous there
tulip remnant
My first game at a regional, I lost and didnāt play a card. This was like 6 months ago.
tribal wharf
noooooo mirror force
pallid quiver
It's slightly unfair of a comparison, since turns in older Yugioh didn't have even a tenth of the interaction potential. The mere existence of hand traps drastically changes how turn economy works
tribal wharf
i hate this game !!! ( as well )
tulip remnant
They need to ban/limit hand trapsā¦
Itās just go card for card on interaction, slam 1 card combo start.
pallid quiver
They need to ban/limit hand trapsā¦
Trust me when I say you do not fucking want that
That's how you get some real degenerate shit to rock
Speaking as someone who did rock some of the real degenerate shit
tulip remnant
Trust me when I say _you do not fucking want that_
Would force people to play less then 22 Hand Traps in a 40 card deck,
violet ginkgo
@pallid quiver You also forgot about 10 special summons or more per turn XD
Older YGO probably Normal Summon, Special Summon 1, Special Summon 2, then Special 3 (Can be Synchro or fusion) then set some trap maybe and one. Right now? let's keep special summoning as much as possible in 1 turn
tribal wharf
tulip remnant
Iād rather play the game, into the most stupid shit, then what it is currently where you just donāt get to play.
tribal wharf
i play dork magician
tulip remnant
š«”
pallid quiver
Iād rather play the game, into the most stupid shit, then what it is currently w...
No, because you wouldn't play the game
Speaking as someone who's actively played FTK decks, you'd lose on RPS
boreal haven
Ara Kra +8, do i have to go in the Pudlle on the last Boss ?
tulip remnant
No, because you wouldn't play the game
Speaking as someone who's actively playe...
Thereās a FTK deck rn thatās topping eventsā¦.
violet ginkgo
of course you should go to puddle
pallid quiver
Ara Kra +8, do i have to go in the Pudlle on the last Boss ?
Yeah the suck will fuck you up
tribal wharf
FTK doesnt really exist in this but sort of it does
violet ginkgo
just play it save
boreal haven
k, thx
tribal wharf
its more like, whoever gets the monter out to attack
tulip remnant
Gimmick Puppet is a fun deck, FTKs their first turn consistently
robust urchin
Is there an addon that tells me exactly what nodes in the proffesion tree attribute to specific crafts?
For example on my LW i am looking to maximize proffesion items crafts but i dont know what i can still put points in to give + skills
outer helm
Hey - new to prot and tanking in general. Is it a fucking terrible idea to bind ignore pain / shield block to scroll wheel?
jagged pier
yes
pallid quiver
I mean if you are very good at controlling your scroll wheel so you don't overspam, you could, but
I wager that's not what you're looking for
tulip remnant
The amount of cursed Keybind setups Iāve seenā¦.Id almost rather not know what you get up to.
pallid quiver
And shield block you don't press often at all, so that one's flat out a no
tulip remnant
Maybe Shield Slam? Iām scared of mousewheel keybinds tbh
outer helm
The amount of cursed Keybind setups Iāve seenā¦.Id almost rather not know what yo...
Whatās your non cursed keybinds? Genuinely curious
tulip remnant
Whatās your non cursed keybinds? Genuinely curious
I just use numbers/Top Row and Shift Mod.
mighty valley
Some people I know put kick on mouse wheel, easy to hit fast and has a cd so multipressing doesnāt matter
But idk mousewheel binds feel weird to me
tulip remnant
Whatās your non cursed keybinds? Genuinely curious
Iāve known people that put DPS cooldowns and Push to talk on the same button.
Or putting every BM Hunter button on an MMO mouse and WASD moving.
cold pilot
I hate pugging 10s
mighty valley
Donāt do it then
violet ginkgo
For example on my LW i am looking to maximize proffesion items crafts but i dont...
I think they make it simpler on the TWW since they weigh more on the material you use. Put it simple if you want to max craft leather wrist just go max on the wrist and the node which need to open the wrist and you will be good.
rough quest
how important is ver for doing 11s-12s vs small dmg loss from crit? in crafted items
mellow quartz
how important is ver for doing 11s-12s vs small dmg loss from crit? in crafted i...
I have 5% vers and doing 11/12's
kind urchin
Hey - new to prot and tanking in general. Is it a fucking terrible idea to bind ...
Ignore pain would be fine since it has a 1 second cd but shield block is a no go.
neon elk
I have 7 and even if i swaped most items i would get like 10% extra , thats 5% dr ,idk if that means anything to you
graceful kite
alt +2s are another world
tender cove
But idk mousewheel binds feel weird to me
Ive used charge on mousewheel up for as long as I can remember and mousewheel down is ravager.
Even use shift modifers to get 4 scrolls
Its a really good bind imo
graceful kite
how important is ver for doing 11s-12s vs small dmg loss from crit? in crafted i...
it isnt
you equip whatever sims best
sacred lichen
think m2s are doable at 565 item level?
jagged pier
Yep
cold pilot
This is a really noob question, but what is extending the duration of my shield block?
I'm fairly new to warrior but I still can't figure it out
tender cove
Never wanted to play wow more in my life rn but never had less time to play it ever in my life. I feel cursed š¦
graceful kite
This is a really noob question, but what is extending the duration of my shield ...
heavy repercussions talent
violet ginkgo
This is a really noob question, but what is extending the duration of my shield ...
It's a good time to read your talent tree then š
graceful kite
think m2s are doable at 565 item level?
yes but might not be puggable
south zealot
how important is ver for doing 11s-12s vs small dmg loss from crit? in crafted i...
doesnāt matter
cold pilot
you know, i think i stopped reading after the generates more rage lmao
graceful kite
or I'm just bad at vdh
violet ginkgo
I mean that is make sense txr, if he had a static still doable for sure, but for pug setting they will want to get ppl with higher ilvl, around 580 maybe?
graceful kite
I just had an arms war spamming at me because I was HITTING nw's 3rd boss abomination
he just stood on the side spamming in chat that we shouldn't hit him
tribal wharf
wow is a game that at end game issues are more skill issues rather than gear issues
more for tanking
south zealot
theres a balance
you want the abom to die immediately after he hooks the boss when he retreats
graceful kite
he wasnt hitting them
violet ginkgo
Choco is right, 2 abom is recipe for disaster
graceful kite
wow is a game that at end game issues are more skill issues rather than gear iss...
its weird because wow isnt a hard game
its pretty easy to perform at 90%
fresh pilot
I have the shield from queen heroic, item lv 626. would you craft a shield over bracers for example which statwise would be a MUCH bigger upgrade?
graceful kite
yes
block is your best stat getting a hihger ilvl shield is your biggest upgrade you can get
tender cove
Guess ill play another day xD
violet ginkgo
I think without but, why the hype is... maybe because it was listed BiS on icy and wowhead so ppl just be "craft it" and no longer think about it
graceful kite
all those bracers/cloak crafting are looking like 3 month long term plan
graceful kite
Just craft whatever gives you your biggest upgrade while considering your tier slots and your mythic raid options
defender
beledar is trash
south zealot
its bc its the lowest power piece
fresh pilot
My mythic raid options is zero. cant seem to find a guild at all
south zealot
so when full myth gear comes
graceful kite
so what
south zealot
thats the idea
graceful kite
I want to play now not in 2 months
south zealot
i think everyone is/should be crafting mainhand offhand then wrists or cloak
with heroic crest from ansurek kill
fresh pilot
ill craft shield first then, bracers next
south zealot
shield weapon then bracers
graceful kite
spending 33k gold (or 60k if ordering from scammers) for a shitty slot doesnt look good honestly
especially since wrists are crafted without a socket
what's the value of a socket for pwar now? 5ilvl? 10?
south zealot
its just the most efficient since your 2nd embellishment is usually a heroic crest craft
so its gonna be shit ilvl anyways
graceful kite
its just the most efficient since your 2nd embellishment is usually a heroic cre...
You get hero track socketed wrists
While wrists are low value themselves they have a potentially high value because of a socket
south zealot
You get hero track socketed wrists
from what
or hypothetical
i made cloak personally
but if you ever take a spark from vault you can get it on your crafted bracers
which you probably shouldve done week 1
south zealot
you make a good point
issue with cloak though is if you get rashanan cloak
esp on mythic
so manymant free upgrades
mine was like 606 though so i had to lol
violet ginkgo
rash cloak eh, I just hope it will appear later on vault since I lost it this week on roll
south zealot
if it dropped on reclear i wouldve gotten it by default
bc such a big upgrade
didnt drop tho
same with sikran neck
its alright tho i got like 4 myth pieces regardless
robust urchin
I think they make it simpler on the TWW since they weigh more on the material yo...
I am specifically looking for ways to improve professional equipment on all of my charactes
But it's so insanely difficult to make out what contributes skills and what not
LW and Tailoring only have like 1 30 point talent for that
But putting points into Robes/Hats on tailoring also gives skill for gardening hats and stuff
It's fucking ridiculous how user unfriendly it is
tribal burrow
https://i.imgur.com/2OiCIvU.png
same stats just affects crafting difficulty
outer carbon
tysm @tribal burrow
onyx vessel
tribal wharf
random question but does rank 3 embelishment give more stats than r2?
+5 skill added instead of +25 or 50 (not sure r1)
so, what that means
outer carbon
nah im talking abnotu the actual versatility
tribal wharf
is the player making it, needs less skill/rng
outer carbon
tribal wharf
not sure then, put it on your action bar and note if it changes to another stat or not
so you can monitor it easily i mean
if you want to be garunteed vers always, you want uh duskweave lining
and dawnweave lining for always crit
warm plinth
nah im talking abnotu the actual versatility
Embellishment quality only affects the difficulty of the craft. The stats or damage or whatever it grants doesn't change.
tribal wharf
so, i might have defender learned by default to craft as BS
lets say i have 100 points in BS but i put them all into creating polearms
static bridge
Hey guys, since shield block gives us 100% block chance, do we recieve any benefits from overcapping our block? Cuz after i use shield block it becomes 150%
tribal wharf
i can only reliably create polearms, and so i would be more likely to hit a rank 2-4 crafting you a shield, until i got 30 points in shield crafting
strong forum
Hey guys, since shield block gives us 100% block chance, do we recieve any benef...
No
tribal wharf
so it is a mixture of both prof skill and prof knowledge points
also, the quality of the material, in this case bars, rank 3 have a slightly higher chance when added to be rank higher,
or it adds more skill on craft
if you go find someone with 30 shield 100 points, all armor knowledge, he will craft in rank 5 99% of time
toxic pewter
just didnt time a key cuz no one interrupted
tulip remnant
Interrupts are for prot Palis and nerds
tribal wharf
tell them it is a dps increase because they wont die if they dont get face fireballed
toxic pewter
just sucks lol
people standing there dpsing and get bolted to the face and die
and was one of those runs where literally 15 seconds we would of timed it lol
willow portal
how much haste u guys think its good for into the fray?
violet ginkgo
40% huh then we probably itf in late S2/early S3?
inland raft
Dps are incapable of thought. They refuse kick or they dont let you get mobs. Like the dh in the gb i just did by the time i finish charge animation he has already immo fel rushed and now has half the pack on him and now i have to stop and fight that pack rather then pulling bigger which woukd have enabled him to do more dps
tribal wharf
eyebeam > aggro > deadge has been a played out dps dh meme even since bfa keys
dh's were also more angry back in those days, equivilance to todays shamans and monks
inland raft
I was a havoc main all through bfa, the one expansion i didnt tank even once. But i rarely got aggro because i did this thing called wait foe the tank
tulip remnant
Fel Hammer moderation really made DHs lose the rep
inland raft
A secret dps hack
tribal wharf
no, it really was the brain dead DH stereo types that did that
they did it on frame perfect pull
and then aggro die
tulip remnant
I was a havoc main all through bfa, the one expansion i didnt tank even once. Bu...
I only pull agro with Fury Bladestorm rn.
Wait 4 secs into a pull, warn tank in discord call Iām popping CDs, pop cds, get agro and die
tribal wharf
well, bey blade has similiar aggro effects
mental scarab
My pala frend who tanks when We play put bubble on me when Im playing fury 
tribal wharf
but they can at least pop dbts
mental scarab
200iq pre move
tulip remnant
200iq pre move
I wish lmao
mental scarab
Hahaha
tribal wharf
good news, almost all dk's run hands
tulip remnant
(I almost exclusively get in runs with Brew and Veng. Idk why, we have 1 BDK in guild)
tribal wharf
if i ever figure out how i am transmogging my bdk to be eviterno
merry sluice
I wish more Blood DKS were in my guild, love hands
wish granted you get the rando pug dk who never DnD's and spams marrowrend
tribal wharf
what about craft normal feet?
i feel like i might like to craft those with 3rd spark
or cloak
silent sphinx
Hey guys! Been getting better at tanking slowly, new to wow (just got keystone master yay) but my DPS is quite frankly pathetic
Similarly geared tanks are doing 100k more than me in raids for example, any way for me to figure out where I'm messing up?
pallid quiver
Similarly geared tanks are doing 100k more than me in raids for example, any way...
Logs are generally the go to, but it's generally not pressing SS when it's off CD, wasting rage, and sending outbursts on TC instead of SS/TB
vestal cove
I know this is a stupid question as it will have been covered a million times- but can you sim for defensiveness? Canāt decide on stats on my 2 crafted items - Damage shows Haste/ Crit
halcyon jungle
pallid quiver
I know this is a stupid question as it will have been covered a million times- b...
Nope; you would require an entirely different sim for every form of damage profile in the game
vestal cove
Nope; you would require an entirely different sim for every form of damage profi...
Damage is is then
pallid quiver
That being said, they're all close enough defensively that it doesn't matter too much
eager geode
secondary stat for crafting items, haste + ? - mythic + content
tulip remnant
wish granted you get the rando pug dk who never DnD's and spams marrowrend
Absolutely Based, ty
dusky canopy
haha fury gamer
pine lotus
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m37DaxPfQsfUC2XNF4H1D1 Am i doing everything right? it feels weird replacing sacbrood with a shitty delve trinket
sweet summit
590 vs 603 and that delve trinket isn't the worst
sudden kelp
hey guys, hows the gap between +9 & +10 keys? Defensively I mean, like can I do the same pulls or do I have to be a bit more cautious ? Like first NW pull
jagged pier
no exsistant
stable shard
no diff just the basic scaling every +1 key
mellow quartz
hey guys, hows the gap between +9 & +10 keys? Defensively I mean, like can I do ...
adds Tyr or Fort depending on the week
carmine rain
I've found 8-10 all feel pretty similar. Slow and steady. Take your time and as long as you don't wipe doing it this way you'll time it pretty much everytime. Safety sometimes is worth more then the big daddy pulls in PUGs.
In organized groups I'm doing big daddy pulls though.
mellow quartz
the only 'real' difference is going from 11's to 12's
strong needle
So im doing 500k in +8-+10s and it feels like im doing something wrong im hitting TC basically on CD but my SS still ends up being a huge portion of my damage, but when I look at other tanks its not the same
I feel like when I look at other warriors they are doing 600-700k+ pretty easily not sure what im messing up
graceful bramble
You can revenge on proc or if you cap rage
Its big in aoe
How many casts do you have on revenge?
I mean im Main spec Fury but already tanken 2-3 7-8
mighty valley
Yeah thane doesnāt have much room to revenge but that still looks low
graceful bramble
And i play th. Roar not spear.
mighty valley
spear currently sims for better damage and gives a lil rage
not gonna be a massive diff though
graceful bramble
Hm, gonna try spear next key i tank.
graceful bramble
And the one who Charge or jump are cc immune most of the time
viral pebble
so do i give up 1 armored to the teeth for 1 cruel strikes?
and get roar compared to spear
or just get both cruel strikes instead of armored to the teeth
graceful kite
So im doing 500k in +8-+10s and it feels like im doing something wrong im hittin...
ss is always a priority above tc
unless you're getting aggro
graceful kite
hey guys, hows the gap between +9 & +10 keys? Defensively I mean, like can I do ...
its always fortified this week so there will be no difference
and first boss nw does literally ZERO damage with pwar in party so pulling him with trash is no problem also
neon elk
In cot first boss, can people with orbs stack on eachother or will it kill em?
torpid merlin
is a 636 neck a better craft than 636 bracers?, i have 606 in neck and bracers at the moment
and i dont raid, so the only neck i have access to is haste mastery
autumn cosmos
o/ do people have any handy spell reflect WA's?
graceful kite
is a 636 neck a better craft than 636 bracers?, i have 606 in neck and bracers a...
sim it
torpid merlin
for damage?
graceful kite
yep
torpid merlin
i was thinking of survivability
torpid merlin
im not sure i can sim it, as the neck would also be able to have gems slotted in
sudden kelp
Thank you all š
graceful kite
im not sure i can sim it, as the neck would also be able to have gems slotted in
there should be templates to sim crafts google of look up in discords
torpid merlin
thanks ,never heard of that before, but ill see what i can find
graceful kite
when you copypaste simc in raidbots it has all your items in that text
graceful kite
thanks ,never heard of that before, but ill see what i can find
there's an option in droptimizer window on raidbots now
foggy ingot
For Weapon Enchant should we just go off the sim, or is there a big reason to stick to Deeps?
sweet summit
disrupting shout kinda owns actually
graceful kite
I actually got told today that we now have a short aoe tremor
sweet summit
we do!
graceful kite
its 10 yeard range tho so boo
sweet summit
12 yeah
outer carbon
i wish we had less shield slam procs but each proc gave more rage
okay that might be a dumb thing to say
tribal wharf
it is, due to anger mastery
outer carbon
i just feel like sometimes im spamming tclap/shield slam so much
its kinda annoying
tribal wharf
anjger mastery makes us very happy tanks
thats what we do
we hit alot of ss and clap, especially as thane
outer carbon
maybe my keybinds are bad
lime spruce
what 1h/shield combos are you guys using to transmog w/ the tier set
woeful trellis
Yeah just pull then in sync, or sync the cast with a stun š
tribal wharf
dungeon is perfect for us, tons of reflect and simple melee mobs
fallen rock
Why Yoda and Dorki go Haste Verse on crafts
instead of haste crit
are we the dumb or them
mellow quartz
If you are in all crit gear with super low vers then vers will probably sim higher for you.
They do it for ādefensive purposesā though as itās more reliable than parry.
pallid quiver
Their reasoning is probably suspect, considering how much value prot war gains from a lot of haste crit atm, but it's not a really major thing; the large majority of defensive ability comes from play, and they're both very good at playing the M+ game
They could take an entirely new tank spec to title based on what I know and have seen without much fuss
They really just have better things to do than fuss over minute details on stats
sullen wadi
Anyone know how i can stop plater from showing both rent and thunderclap debuff on target frame?
mellow quartz
Blacklist it under buffs
Assuming you mean on the nameplates not target unit frames
tribal wharf
@sullen wadi
type in the name of the spell you want to never want to see again, and if it doesnt work do some digging on mdt or wowhead and try to find the spell id, that will be like a ~8 ish digit string of numbers
umbral breach
can someone that runs 7+ and up keys answer a couple questions for me?
graceful kite
can someone that runs 7+ and up keys answer a couple questions for me?
Yes?
tribal wharf
what is other debuffs that i should filter
now that i have this open, punish? not sure on that
mellow quartz
Anything you see now you donāt want to see
tribal wharf
thats the thing, i ignore that shit, so, i dunno which they would be, taunt i know i need to have
graceful kite
Can someone write me a suf extensions that makes debuff settings morw flexible
I dont want to learn to code
sullen wadi
<@229630268783329281>
thanks, ill try again, couldnt get thunderclap to work, perhaps i had the wrong spell id for the debuff,
tribal wharf
im tempted to not drop intervene but take storm bolts for keys, i dont use intervene all that often except for mechanics or to save time running
mellow quartz
thanks, ill try again, couldnt get thunderclap to work, perhaps i had the wrong ...
Type thunderclap under āadd debuff to blacklistā and click on the ānameā button
tribal wharf
i would do that if i dropped tauren (both, both have a stun like effect)
to compensate for not having cow stomp
mellow quartz
im tempted to not drop intervene but take storm bolts for keys, i dont use inter...
Play both?
tribal wharf
this one
storm bolt is basically favorite ability in game, would prefer it be like wc3, does mega dmg
wc3 stormbolt = night night
tribal wharf
the standard build for keys has ravager
BSV is cope imo
never ever once took it ever
shrewd vapor
Yoooooo - wax plating - the 25K damage reduction trinket - worth any wieght in M+?
tribal wharf
junk
tribal wharf
only store in bags to boost ilvl
shrewd vapor
yeah
valid bridge
BSV is cope imo
Just noticed at the moment almost all of the top 10 ranked warriors have taken BSV over Ravager and was trying to figure out if thats the move for keys where you feel like you're in danger of dying
tribal wharf
oh, top keys, 11 and above
than ya, total different game
cuz, its, like if you played baseball game to a science
graceful kite
Yoooooo - wax plating - the 25K damage reduction trinket - worth any wieght in M...
You can buy 4 health potions by vendoring it
tribal wharf
like i said, i would only equip it over a green or blue trinket
im saying purple cuz i think it drops from delve
valid bridge
Is there defensive value to be gained by going into the fray over heavy repurcussions or is it mostly just for damage?
(im currently at 23% haste)
jagged pier
nope
tribal wharf
no, about hr itf
jagged pier
u loose value
tribal wharf
you lose with itf
jagged pier
as u loose block uptime
tribal wharf
im 28% haste but i have bad boots and cloak
stable shard
tried HR a bit and i feel so slow in packs without the haste buff..
valid bridge
Is there a haste threshold where we can keep shield block up 100% without HR?
valid bridge
oof
graceful kite
Should be less with m+ haste affix
stable shard
no affix in 12 š¤Ŗ
valid bridge
in a dungeon like necrotic wake do you think its worth dropping ravager for disrupting shout?
jagged pier
no
ui drop bloodsurge
for dsirupting shout
if u need it
nothing else
u loose far to much value otherwise
tribal wharf
the thing i have issue with storm shield is that it seems like a pretty small bubble, 3 x 145k armor only equals 450k absorb and thats on a 30s cd
it doesnt feel worth
valid bridge
never thought of that. I rarely ever feel like im low on rage but i do often wish i had another button to interrupt spells with
jagged pier
that fucking huge value
stable shard
it doesnt feel worth
ive felt the same but its better than nothing
tribal wharf
it doesnt feel like it to me but okay, im not sure, i mean it is what im using
graceful kite
Why would you want disrupting in wake
Its the only dungeon that has aoe interrupt included in it
valid bridge
Ive definitely saved many people with that intervene+stormshield
ive also dont it stupidly and screwed up positioning by doing it reflexively though
done*
tribal wharf
well, i suppose i have to consider it can block
for a very long time, just ask jakey, i wasnt even aware shield block was a button
im only half joking but what im saying is i DEFINITELY learned about keeping block up and blocking MORE things
lofty veldt
hey friendly friends! so i have a log uploaded how do i go about knowing how much rage i wasted and that sort of thing?
tribal wharf
so, i'm still only learned to block things targeting me
i assume that i have to be properly aligned to do the intervene block thing
jagged pier
i might do another one
that one is fairly out dated at this point
if ppl will find it helpful
barren umbra
Anyone done Zekvir ?? As prot ~610 ilvl?
lofty veldt
i might do another one
would love that tbh!
but i already learned a couple of nice things
so much appreciated king!
jagged pier
Anyone done Zekvir ?? As prot ~610 ilvl?
ye
urban bane
Anyone done Zekvir ?? As prot ~610 ilvl?
the eggs hafta die is the only challenging thing about it. may want to juice your weapon's ilvl if you can
dusky hare
ya im having way more luck on it as fury
bad rng as prot means you canāt kill the eggs fast enough
little lance
hey all i was just starting my warr and was tryig to find what i should craft but wow head is giving 2 diff answers any suggestion
neon elk
my kill is uploaded wiull have to unprivate
Is it post or pre reflect nerf tho?
jagged pier
after
shut summit
Anyone done Zekvir ?? As prot ~610 ilvl?
went back and did it at 545 ilvl after reflect change, very simple as long as you stay on top of adds
inland raft
What is the weakaura that auto solves mists route after the first two rooms
neon elk
went back and did it at 545 ilvl after reflect change, very simple as long as yo...
How tf u kill eggs in time with that ? Ive had multiple runs where he would cast frontals on me perma ten step on egg and do fear
jagged pier
well u have time to wait all that out now
shut summit
can bait the frontals / fear as well
jagged gust
And just save CDs for eggs
pallid quiver
if ppl will find it helpful
I've actually seen multiple people ask about how to read their own logs recently, so it might actually be pretty useful to people. I'm too lazy to do something like that, but it'd be nice to be able to point people to where to see things like block uptime and outburst usage, which isn't the most intuitive if you aren't familiar with how to process logs
molten gorge
I'm sure there's some things I should be looking at that I'm not looking at to improve
quasi pivot
Ive definitely saved many people with that intervene+stormshield
Considering how few DPS actually use their personal defensives and/or health potions to not die in mid-level M+ keys i've certainly saved a few people with intervene. At higher level keys it could still come in useful to save people on things like the corrupt casts in GB.
cinder bridge
how are prots feeling pugs? do you get invited or frequently declined in favor of more meta tanks? (only m+)
(I want to gear a tank, I find warrior the most fun but bear feels like it has much more important utility and as such pug appeal)
stark jewel
ive had no trouble getting invited as prot but I do have 2.3k rio
and sometimes in lower keys (4-7 ish) people take meta even more into consideration
but for 9s-10s ive had no issue
tulip remnant
Making the group as a tank is also not bad, DPS will join just for the tank a lot of the time.
stable shard
guys how u manage gutter in boralus?
they instantly hit hard + debuff haste
very hard to manage the first pack, 5 gutter dashing on me instantly
SB + SW don't avoid me to fall at 10% hp
lusty grotto
you need to burst as opener because youll have a hard time getting GCDs off with the haste debuff
big dam as opener
then just cruise
the shredder's tooth breaker is blockable so make sure you dont get butt hit (as with anything)
it shouldnt kill you, if youre taking too much damage youre likely not blocking their stuff
vale bolt
Strange question, but is there a way to remove the character's constant yelling when spamming IP? It drives me nuts lol
stable shard
you need to burst as opener because youll have a hard time getting GCDs off with...
yeah idk what i did wrong but just go os in 12
got*
lusty grotto
atomic recalirbator into mechagnome for blackboard scratching yells š
lusty grotto
yeah idk what i did wrong but just go os in 12
hard to say without logs
cinder bridge
Strange question, but is there a way to remove the character's constant yelling ...
haven't played with sounds on for over 15 years
š¤£
vale bolt
But I like the sound of thunderblast š
vale bolt
atomic recalirbator into mechagnome for blackboard scratching yells š
That is horrifying lmao
lusty grotto
honestly idk why blizzard hasnt added a split character sound effect bar
vale bolt
True
valid bridge
Is intimidating shout kinda worthless if my main struggle is packs with lots of casters that need to be locked down?
Would it be better to take stormbolt?
vale bolt
They added an option to remove error speech. Like just make a slider for character volume
lusty grotto
Is intimidating shout kinda worthless if my main struggle is packs with lots of ...
wdym, you take both
valid bridge
Ive been using shout and shockwave but not stormbolt
valid bridge
Was using the wowhead m+ build up to +7s but looking to tweak now
valid bridge
Thanks brother i appreciate it. Was just watching a vid yodatv put out but i dont think i need to be dipping so hard into damage as he recommends when im just breaching +8s
lusty grotto
valid bridge
Okay that looks pretty good. What is the appropriate use case for intimidating shout? Ive been using it as an aoe interrupt to cancel spells when I have nothing else up, but i dont know if thats a waste tbh since they just cast again right after it gets broken
lusty grotto
its just an additional stop
molten gorge
haven't had any problems yet running without Intimidating personally
don't think you need it in 10s and below personally
lusty grotto
yeah its just a bonus talent
molten gorge
also imo
lusty grotto
stops arent as hard required as they were on DF
molten gorge
lose the 1 in cruel strikes to take 1 in Endurance
cause ya
casters
in the instance we're talking about
dusky canopy
Nim my mental is dying
valid bridge
Yeah i guess thsg makes sense, can drop the second node after shockwave that reduces its cooldown because im grabbing stormbolt instead, then drop cruel strikes for intimidating shout
molten gorge
Yeah i guess thsg makes sense, can drop the second node after shockwave that red...
depends what keys you're dying in too ig
zealous goblet
hey, does haste work in decimal values? like the 200 haste or whatever i get from my food doesn't bring me up a %, should i just use stam/strength food, or no?
molten gorge
and then are you rotating CDs as well
valid bridge
depends what keys you're dying in too ig
The ones i come close to death seem to be certsin packs in necrotic wake, and grim batol if we dont have good stops
Rotating all my defensives and stops
Im pugging mostly so overlapping kicks hurts
valid bridge
Im usually top of interrupts by a decent number
But thats probly cause we overlap and im sitting on the priority target to kick all the time
lusty grotto
hey, does haste work in decimal values? like the 200 haste or whatever i get fro...
you should be using primary stat food always up until later in the exp
halfway through the exp, is when we potentially switch
if not last season
molten gorge
The ones i come close to death seem to be certsin packs in necrotic wake, and gr...
I mean what + but ya the spell caster stuff makes sense ig
cause ya, need interrupts
lusty grotto
Nim my mental is dying
dont worry i still dont have it either
valid bridge
I mean what + but ya the spell caster stuff makes sense ig
Mostly 7s right now. Breezed through siege and mists and ara kara, but necrotic wake +7 was a bit rough. Timed it but i didnt feel sturdy on some of the pulls at all, came close to death. I may need to better utilize spellblock there
I spell reflect often but probably dont spell block often enough
lusty grotto
necrotic bolt will fuck you up
molten gorge
ya would need to see a log to know ig
lusty grotto
so yeah spell block and SR
molten gorge
I'm surprised 7s are a struggle
lusty grotto
and pray for kicks
valid bridge
Ill grab when im back at my desk, i think i had logs running for that run
molten gorge
valid bridge
I'm surprised 7s are a struggle
Every one except NW was easy so far even pugging
molten gorge
Ya fair
valid bridge
Its possible i was pulling shitty combos of packs too
valid bridge
Should we just entirely avoid those dudes that do the massive unavoidable group damage?
molten gorge
there's 2 routes I've seen that are good
valid bridge
It was nerfed but still seems to take healers by surprise
molten gorge
this one avoids Gatekeepers (bit more pug friendly imo)
molten gorge
this one if you're video gaming, BIG opener pull with lust and need to do the axes properly to chunk the gatekeeper
valid bridge
Ive done something similar to the second one before but i was the only one alive by the end of it
dense cradle
gatekeepers feel like the scariest part of NW
valid bridge
So moved to avoiding gatekeepers
molten gorge
gatekeepers are def not pug friendly imo
dense cradle
besides if your group doesnt kill stichflesh creations
then those things get out of hand fast
valid bridge
Feels like i need a macro if im gonna pull gatekeepers
/shout USE DEFENSIVES THIS IS GONNA HURT
valid bridge
ya would need to see a log to know ig
I just picked up warrior this season, was a prot paladin for DF S4
so any tips are welcome
valid bridge
Did i drop a lot in combat? I thought I was keeping it up but I never even thought to check this log
lusty grotto
you died to a puddle but
valid bridge
Yeah that one i knew about
lusty grotto
you took a big 800k unblocked hit before it
valid bridge
I called myself out for it to the group
Im usually pretty good about dodging ground mechanics but I didnt even see that one drop
lusty grotto
check the shield block icon
valid bridge
how do I get to the view you're looking at?
tribal wharf
im gunna have to start making my own routes :S
molten gorge
Did i drop a lot in combat? I thought I was keeping it up but I never even thoug...
you're at like 85%
for physical blocks
valid bridge
Any way to differentiate hits I didnt block because I didnt have it up, versus because I had my back turned?
molten gorge
ignore pain casts is maybe low too? I'm comparing to my last NW and I'm at 100 more casts
valid bridge
in case im doing that?
valid bridge
1 mil, 155k, 805k, 331k, all unblocked, 2 mil shadow well
Ah I see, I was mistaking defensive stance icon for shield block thats why it was confusing me
molten gorge
Ya ignore pain I feel is low too which maybe isn't helping
I don't think I'm great at it and I'm at 89% uptime
you're at 77%
valid bridge
Alright so tip one is just make sure to be 100% on top of my regular active mitigation
molten gorge
and obv not spending the rage means less indom healing too
for sure, more block uptime
valid bridge
the fact i let it drop without realizing for so long tells me I need to make me weakaura reminder bigger
I have a custom one i built
I wonder if i was pressing revenge too much
and rage starving myself
chilly brook
Probably
valid bridge
i dont remember feeling rage starved though
lusty grotto
for ignore pain usage just look at rage resource
chilly brook
Press revenge in free globals if rage allows
lusty grotto
and look at wasted rage
valid bridge
i pretty much only hit revenge if I have shield block and IP up, IP is at max amount, or when the free revenge procs but i dont have a thunderblast ready to go
lusty grotto
shield slam APM is also low
chilly brook
i pretty much only hit revenge if I have shield block and IP up, IP is at max am...
Shield slam has prio
lusty grotto
i pretty much only hit revenge if I have shield block and IP up, IP is at max am...
dont do this
hit IP
not revenge
lusty grotto
press IP regardless of if its up or not
chilly brook
Everything else is more important
molten gorge
I don't think he's over using revenge when I compare anyway, like I have more Revenge casts even
lusty grotto
hes not
molten gorge
but like this is the rage gain that Nim suggested
valid bridge
I should clarify, i only press revenge without free proc if i have thunderclap and shield slam on cooldown and nothing stronger to press
lusty grotto
it looks adequate, but SS APM is low so
chilly brook
He is if heās not pressing shield slam over it
valid bridge
or at least i try to
chilly brook
molten gorge
molten gorge
that's you
valid bridge
ok, so still only press revenge if i literally have nothing else to press
even if the proc is there
?
lusty grotto
correct
valid bridge
understood
chilly brook
You basically only care about revenge to reset shield slam
lusty grotto
and effectively not burning as much rage with IP as you should be
and thus no cycling walls/avatars with AM and outbursts
molten gorge
no idea if this is good or bad, but mine for comparison
so think you're wasting a lot of rage when you should be IP'ing
valid bridge
am i maybe clapping too much when i should be slamming? if im somehow not hitting slam as much as I should
chilly brook
Speaking of log reviews I should go get roasted in the monk discord for my brew play in the last couple keys
lusty grotto
am i maybe clapping too much when i should be slamming? if im somehow not hittin...
nah
youre good
chilly brook
am i maybe clapping too much when i should be slamming? if im somehow not hittin...
Shield slam should be top prio (although in fairness I donāt know how thane changes this)
So
Take this with a grain of salt
lusty grotto
TB > SS
chilly brook
There you go
lusty grotto
TB > SS > TC > Execute/Revenge
valid bridge
just trying to figure out what im pressing thats getting in the way of my shield slams, cause in my mind im prioritizing TB > SS > TC for globals
yeah ^ what you said
and then obviously cooldowns when appropriate
ravager, champions spear, shockwave, etc
shield charge
valid bridge
how can i increase shield slam APM if i'm doing the prio correctly already?
maybe my talents and stats are not optimal for that?
I was running the wowhead build for that run last night
(which ill be changing now as we discussed earlier)
chilly brook
Could just be dropping globals
molten gorge
it's very spammy for sure
molten gorge
for ignore pain usage just look at rage resource
depressed myself when I just looked at this, wondered if I'm doing okay, had a look at Dorki's rage wasted vs mine
I'll never go to the MDI it seems
valid bridge
Is cruel strikes really a good place to spend that last point or could I get more value with something else?
quasi echo
hello, is there a google doc for all reflect able and blockable stuffs in dungeons like the dragonflight one?
lusty grotto
hello, is there a google doc for all reflect able and blockable stuffs in dungeo...
#protection-faq 3rd link
lusty grotto
Is cruel strikes really a good place to spend that last point or could I get mor...
yeah
valid bridge
Sounds good
merry sluice
i swear to god the trash before the first boss CoT is like, a litmus test for pugs
you'll know if its evne worth playing the key out before u get to the boss based on how many people refuse to interrupt
mellow quartz
+12 SOB is just 1 shot on 1 shot
sick sentinel
9s and 10s are so fucking hard, i am stressing every second of every dungeon lol
mellow quartz
9s and 10s are so fucking hard, i am stressing every second of every dungeon lol
whats you ilvl?
sick sentinel
611
I feel like a have a solid grasp of the class, and then ive got mobs meleeing me for 2m each through ignore pain and SB in mists
mellow quartz
you sure you are facing the mobs or you are not talking about the anima slash hit/debuff?
logs are you best friend for knowing why something happens
these are melee hits on a +12 in the maze
raven knoll
is there a reason for me to not bind ravenger and spear onto one macro? like do i need to use em one by one in some scenarios?
mellow quartz
both are on the gcd so would have to do a cast sequence
raven knoll
but generaly im using them together rightt
mellow quartz
yep
raven knoll
hmm okey thanks sir
chilly brook
is there a reason for me to not bind ravenger and spear onto one macro? like do ...
Because thatās silly
You might want to use ravager but donāt need to use spear yet because spear wouldnāt hit everything
Maybe youāre utilizing ravager to start a pull before you charge
Maybe you want to hold spear a second or two to keep something from leaping away
zealous goblet
i'm weighing my options. how much of a dps increase is ITF? i'm aware we don't have the haste just yet for good shield block uptime, but i feel like i might be able to play around it
tribal wharf
keystones in a nutshell: heaven or hell
chilly brook
i'm weighing my options. how much of a dps increase is ITF? i'm aware we don't h...
Not enough to warrant using it at the moment
tribal wharf
no inbetween
zealous goblet
Not enough to warrant using it at the moment
aye i know we need 35% baseline
i'm just wondering what i can do for a bit more damage
tribal wharf
well, im glad to know im not the only one having total shit dungeon lol
restive oak
i run itf and get plenty of shield block uptime
tribal wharf
im gunna probably peace out fast for this patch, its nasty in keys right now
quaint sinew
whats more dps upgrading 1hander or my shield? new to prot and could not really find this on wowhead