protection

[toxic pewter]

I guess intervening on cd does add up

[inner wren]

i play dotc in raid

dont care for it in m+ tho

[strong forum]

you opt to play the entirely passive bear and then complain about simple

this is not how i raised you

[inner wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/313519221751676928/1284229821202829413/ezgif-1-9dff0752fb.gif

[strong forum]

[narrow hull]

ngl going from bdk to prot to druid I notice no difference in braincells spent

[strong forum]

bdk actually worries about things

but i as pwar kinda dont give a shit

[narrow hull]

just following rotation and keeping cd rolling

[inner wren]

ok im rerolling prot pally so i can be at maximum stress levels

[strong forum]

real

https://i.imgur.com/n7odKiM.png

like look at this

thats ehrps in siege 10 pug

thats like 1 rejuv

woulda been alot less if we had a poison dispel totem but ah well

[real fossil]

Rage classes rise up

[waxen frigate]

I miss the rage

[strong forum]

[vapid berry]

i miss double sigils on dh

[strong forum]

[vapid berry]

[waxen frigate]

Keep yourself safe bud

[proud heart]

thats how you end in somebody's list

[sweet summit]

my list i'm going to kiss you good night on the forehead

[graceful kite]

brewmaster

rolling around stressing out

[vapid berry]

yeah i got banned from the dk discord once in df bc I said something about vamp blood talent being cool, still not unbanned xd

umbilicus being awesome when it was recco'd on the guide or wutever

[snow willow]

I heard someone in this channel saying they open vault as arms vs prot. Any reason?

I'm considering making the full time switch to prot, as I'm really struggling to get into groups as Fury right now (even though I'm decked and a good IO, it just seems competitive AF for a fury warrior to get in)

Does prot want damage trinkets?

[vapid berry]

well imo crafting the weapons at 636 is the play and tank trinkets just suck this expansion tbh. better trinkets from dps loot pool and prot is already tanky without tank trinkets

[snow willow]

Anyone else swap from dps to tank and have a general synopsis of the change of quality of life or how it feels to main prot over a dps?

I'm having identity issues

[sweet summit]

dps in raid tank in keys

[soft tusk]

What do we craft with our sparks?

Have they decided or are we still holding until Season 2?

[vapid berry]

^ a lot of tanks start out as dps mains and go tank bc they realize cant do anything without a good tank

[snow willow]

I like this approach, but definitely feel like I'm split with sparks and such, I made my 2h wep with spark and now just a 590 wep as prot, feelsbad

[blazing condor]

i went tank for the LFG queue times

as well as tank satchel cus i wanted mounts

[snow willow]

I feel like if you're a good M+ tank you're super desired, vs a good dps is easy to come by as an alternative

Any tips for learning good routes? I feel like that's the scariest part about getting into tanking. Siege, Dawnbreaker, they all have scary routes that aren't straightforward

Some are pretty easy, but some are scary AF

Maybe review routes and just play the game more on reasonable M+ powerlevel vs going high

Still scary AF

[sweet summit]

depends
i did crafting for raiding purposes and used leftover scraps for prot when i raided

[zealous goblet]

either brick a few keys, practice +2s, or just sit in mythic dungeon tools and play around with it like i did in dragonflight

you can fuck with group sizes and % in it

[snow willow]

I feel like I need to watch videos

I can't even track MDT when I don't remember what the dungeon totally looks like lol

[cerulean abyss]

If you need to practice do low keys and follow the W route.

[zealous goblet]

i feel like videos are grief to watch because you'll sit for 30 minutes and absorb like 5 mins of it

just brick a few keys and limit test, fuck it

[snow willow]

Yeah. got lucky last night in a +6 that my healer was guiding the route a bit

[unkempt sapphire]

If you have two monitors I try to bring up a route i'm not comfortable with up on keystone.guru

[cerulean abyss]

Brick others keys as practice

[sweet summit]

you learn from your mistakes

limit test when possible

[snow willow]

Good advice

[jagged gust]

my mind starts wandering immediately

Tiktok has changed the way my brain processes info

[cerulean abyss]

I do my doom scrolling on YT these days

[sweet summit]

stop that

read jjk instead

[smoky anvil]

JJK has plenty of brain rot, can confirm

[jagged pier]

But does it bave skibi toilet?

[sweet summit]

it has a lawyer in a bathtub if that counts

[smoky anvil]

Who needs skibidi toilet when Sukuna has W rizz and can make another binding vow?

[blazing condor]

he could expand my domain

i mean

weebs get out

[toxic pewter]

Maintenance extended 2 hours

[sweet summit]

eu W

[blazing condor]

i dont know anything about anything but the 2nd to last boss seems fun asf

hard but fun

[smoky anvil]

Naturally they extend maintenance. Can’t play wow before I gotta go adult. Edgemaxxing my vault gains fr.

[sweet summit]

PDT is such a fake time zone what the hell

[blazing condor]

pacific dummy time

[sweet summit]

real

[toxic pewter]

Oh wow wait more than 1 hour 2 hour extension that’s wild

Mega cringe

[blazing condor]

wait how does the beginning of SoB work now with cross faction

is it standardised

or depending on leader

[toxic pewter]

Always alliance version

[inland raft]

Standard

Alliance trash start

[blazing condor]

ew alliance version

[indigo scaffold]

Ew

[strong forum]

idk i just got general understanding of the dungeon from m0s

and then just press W in key

just play safe, dont do some dumbass MDI pulls

and your key is timed

[blazing condor]

instructions unclear im pulling everything and first boss in NW

we got orbs

[strong forum]

by trying to do skips or MDI shit you brick infinitely more keys than just playing safe

every key ive tanked this season i timed

except 1 weekly no leave ara ara +10 with a less than ideal group that i stuck with after +2ing an 8

[plush tendon]

the difficulty jump from 9 to 10 is very steep right now

[strong forum]

nah

cant say i relate

[blazing condor]

i like that they made the 3rd boss in SoB stop patroling

[strong forum]

correct

[snow willow]

What 's W?

[plush tendon]

idk, 9s are a ez two chest

[strong forum]

its the move forward button

[plush tendon]

and then 10s are... dont die and youll time

[blazing condor]

shield slam for me

[plush tendon]

but theres so little room for error

[snow willow]

Lol

Oh

I get what you mean

hahahahhaa

[strong forum]

[tawdry dirge]

With the brood trinket do we even bother to press the Button i mean it gives haste and strengh for me so both nice buffs

[south zealot]

i got my shit smashed in on a tnw +10

[snow willow]

Try pressing W in dawnbreaker

[strong forum]

nah

[south zealot]

blue shield + skill issue not a good time

[plush tendon]

[snow willow]

Also, I heard changing to steady flight helped in there, but it didn't change it for me

[plush tendon]

granted, Ive only done two days worth of keys

[strong forum]

idk man

[tawdry dirge]

Cheers

[plush tendon]

we were partying this weekend

[strong forum]

my siege 10 isnt even in there yet

[plush tendon]

jealous?

[strong forum]

nah cuz i got my particle effects now

[plush tendon]

[snow willow]

So I'm generally a fury main, when swapping to prot for M+, are there certain meta embellishments or things I should be considering changing?

[strong forum]

no

embellishments do fuckall

[snow willow]

Otherwise I'm a damage dealing prot war

[plush tendon]

just put on a shield and sword

[snow willow]

I like that

[plush tendon]

maybe put on some heavy haste rings (not sure what fury stat prio is)

other then that... just slam

[snow willow]

Is mountain thane still the move?

[strong forum]

colossus does more dmg but is squishier

[agile elbow]

Did we get an answer to this yet?

[plush tendon]

either works

[indigo scaffold]

Anyone here a WA that makes the shield block icon pop up in the middle of the screen when its available? Even with standard prot war WA package my eyes cant seem to keep track if my shield block is on cd/available/active, focused too much on whats happening with the pulls

[snow willow]

Will I notice my damage going up if I go from 590 to 610+ one hander? Or is it rather negligible

[snow willow]

I've been thinking about this too

[strong forum]

__What spec should I open vault with? __

• if you need a shield and 1h weapon, but run the risk of getting shit tank trinkets -> loot as prot
• if you want dps trinkets, but run in danger of getting 2h weapon -> loot as arms
• if you want 1h weapon and dps trinkets, but run the danger of getting 2h weapon -> loot as fury

[agile elbow]

Makes sense. Thanks Nom!

[plush tendon]

I wonder what the default spec is

if you level from 1-80

without spending talents

[strong forum]

arms

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

cuz you generate rage from auto attacks and can spend it aswell

fury or prot cant generate rage without talents

[rigid laurel]

I want to try/practice out some tanking rotations, but the dummy kills me in about 1-2 minutes... Id love to compare my Details results to some sort of baseline. How should I do this?

[strong forum]

tanking dumms is not how you learn tanking

[indigo scaffold]

Yeah i just insta die and notice my SB wasnt up and im just like "well fuck me". Maybe just a thing i need to get used to but would be nice if that specific WA exists.

[strong forum]

if you want to practice rotation hit normal dummies

[snow willow]

The name of the spec arms warrior is weird to me

[strong forum]

kelpfist is your friend

[tribal wharf]

i need to open as prot cuz 593 shield

[strong forum]

weapons are referred to as arms

arms is the master of all weapons

[snow willow]

Like, master of arms, but it's the most limited spec as far as what you can use re: weapons

But it's not

It's just one two hander

But I get your point from a lore perspective

[strong forum]

and feral is just a cat

balance is just boomkin

[rigid laurel]

ok! and the baseline/comparison? Any idea what my ability usage % etc should look like? Aura uptime I can check in Details

[snow willow]

Tactical, master of strategy, thoughtful and deadly strikes

Just give me back Gladiator

[strong forum]

not rly

do a sim

check the dmg profile of the sim

[tribal wharf]

i have the problem when playing casters, anything with a mana bar really, i just cast until im out of mana and die

[strong forum]

try to replicate that dmg profile vs a dummy

and to get as close to it as possible

[rigid laurel]

ok! same as with dps spec then

[strong forum]

si

all tanks are built in a way that optimal dps rotation, is also the optimal "defensive" play

theres no "defensive" playstyle other than playing make believe that what youre doing is better

[rigid laurel]

😄

[hexed schooner]

https://wago.io/MD_v3xG0r

Best prot WA ever

[formal pebble]

🙏

[fossil dragon]

Hey, i've been having issues with rage generation in keys 10 and up, from time to time when no cd resets happen it's almost a death sentence for me, is there a way to do something in that window to save yourself, or is there something wrong in my rotation that nothing procs from time to time? I of course stay in meele to try to proc shield slam reset with autos. Demo is a good way to emergency generate a bit of rage but i usually use it at pull for safety, is that a wrong play?

[sweet summit]

do you have logs?

[hexed schooner]

Guys both maxroll and wowhead say that mastery are the worst stat for us, but in raider io all the top prot have a lot of mastery.

[sweet summit]

worst =/= bad and a lot of them are probably multi specing

[lavish turtle]

How do we deal with high key Mythics like Necrotik Wake where there is a high amount of magical damage constantly. I feel like I melt instantly in trash pulls. Is it just to spend non stop on ignore pain?

[tribal wharf]

@warm plinth

[sweet summit]

rotate defensives

[hexed schooner]

Much more than crit or versa

[sweet summit]

spell block, shield wall external etc etc

[tribal wharf]

its not a TERRIBLE stat, just we try to avoid if possible, which often we cant

[sweet summit]

there is also the fact that we are in week 2 or 3 and gear is very limited

[fossil dragon]

I don't log myself but i'll see if there are any

[strong forum]

dont oversend ignore pain

[hexed schooner]

Ok so fuck it and chase haste then

[strong forum]

send SS as much as you can

this will change everything

also dont play barbaric training

[digital crag]

anyone can please take a look on my logs and tell me if i'm on the right foot for prot warr 😄 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AbdKLJ4trGcQ2hBv

[strong forum]

do these 3 things

[strong forum]

way too much revenge, not enough shield slam

not enough ignore pain

https://i.imgur.com/pbYLiW5.png

left is my casts breakdown

right is yours

you can already see the big discrepancy there

[tribal wharf]

mash go on shield slam

[digital crag]

thanks bro 😄

[tribal wharf]

shield slam is the key

because, if its on cd, it can be reset

and it generates a fuck load of rage

[hexed schooner]

Remove revenge from ur bar

[mellow quartz]

Probably cause he doesn’t have the rage sending revenge instead of SS 🙂

[strong forum]

troll

[fossil dragon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GbfrD7CyvhXTnR1t#fight=9&type=summary Here is one log of a depleted run

[hexed schooner]

U will lose dps but try to hit revenge only when it procs, ur survivability will soar

Untill u are comfortable managing ur rage

[fossil dragon]

I only use revenge on bosses when damage intake is low, otherwise almost not at all

[mellow quartz]

You should revenge if both SS and TC are on CD also to get SS procs

[lavish turtle]

Anyone have a log of a High key mythic. Curious to see your casts and uptimes.

I felt solid on warrior till 6+. I'm 610 iLvL but fall over in some instances as soon as cooldowns run out. Just not sure if it's normal or I'm doing something wrong.

[mellow quartz]

I suck and have no 4 pc or enchants and gems but here is an 11 Ara Kara.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1kKz8VB2aX7Nfy6n#fight=6&type=damage-done

[hexed schooner]

do that if he have IP and block up,

[jagged gust]

procs have nothing to do with why you cast Revenge

[fossil dragon]

I unfortunatelly don't have any logs where i've been having real issues staying alive. But in scenarios where you don't cast revenge at all, is having no procs for like 6 seconds in a row a skill issue or does that happen sometimes?

[proud heart]

im 610 ilvl and ive been tanking 10s and pulling like a degenerate and almost never sweat about it

especially having shield wall for almost every pull

[hexed schooner]

Ik, but for his case where he need to balance the rage spending

[proud heart]

i just ask for an external while gathering/setting up the pull, thats like the only time i could die

[south zealot]

hmmm.

teaching bad habits to fix bad habits

doesnt ever work

[lavish turtle]

Yea, I think I've been holding cooldowns like that for oh shit moments but things happen so fast that by the time you realize it's one of those moments you're dead.

[south zealot]

theres no oh shit moments

you have to know when youre taking damage

[hexed schooner]

That's true i guess

[south zealot]

and use defensives proactively

[fossil dragon]

My premade healer says it's my fault, and he should not heal me all the time. I've checked death logs and i've been on a stable 30% of hp without him healing me once before i finally died. Is this my fault?

[south zealot]

highly depends on the situation

probably mutual fault

[fossil dragon]

Grim Batol last boss with ads biting me to death before his pulsing damage

I struggle with that part as he just refuses to heal me and i have to both try to survive and pull aggro off of others

[frosty holly]

Grim adds i find very chill. even on a 10. But fairly geared on my war also

[south zealot]

thats the only real damage part of the fight for you

so just have your cds for then

if they werent healing yku what were they doing

[hexed schooner]

I swapped from prot pally to warr, my premade healer thanked me everyday, says he doesn't need to heal me much

[fossil dragon]

Even on full cds i still take a shit ton of damage there

And i don't usually struggle on other stuff

[kind tree]

ahoy, someone can help me with Umbral Rush? in Dawnbreaker Nightfall Shadowalker's ability. Its one time do a bunch of damage, and one time its do almost 0. I cant figure out what is the difference between the 2. I have the same mitigation setup, the same DR's up. Everything is the same, except one time its delete my character from the game, and the other time, its just a small breeze

[fossil dragon]

On that boss i was the 3rd most healed person with around 15% healing taken from him

[hexed schooner]

A lot of magic damage there, it's our only pain

[mellow quartz]

You can parry it

Also spell block it

Look at a log. I have one that shows ‘Miss miss parry parry miss’ etc

[fossil dragon]

Does spell block work on these?

[hexed schooner]

Any magic damage as far as i know

[fossil dragon]

On the trash ones before last boss i sometimes end up with 1.5 mil dps taken, is that normal?

[kind tree]

so its completely random outside of spell block window?

[mellow quartz]

Does shadow damage. So use a DR or take the hit. Like any other magic damage.

[hexed schooner]

I can't remember, i played gb once in mythic 0 and never touched that cursed dung again

[fossil dragon]

I've checked these guys deal physical damage

[hexed schooner]

That and siege, i just can't man

[hexed schooner]

My bad then, but u should be alright in physical damage

[fossil dragon]

Yeah, i should but i really struggle, even with shield wall, demo, shield block, ip, and defensive stance up. Is there something that i'm missing

[hexed schooner]

Ur shield block and ignore pain up 100%?

[fossil dragon]

Yeah

[hexed schooner]

What's ur ilvl? And stat

[fossil dragon]

615, basically 616. 13,3k crit, 14,4k haste, 500mastery, 6,5k versa

[south zealot]

i tanked that key and it was super fine

adds got cced though

decently well

[mellow quartz]

Just press SW during the adds when boss does the aoe. Should be up for every one.

[indigo scaffold]

does bigwigs voice and sharedmedia_causese overlap in alerts they give? can i install them both?

[mellow quartz]

Yes

[indigo scaffold]

yes i can install them or yes they overlap? haha sry

[mellow quartz]

Can have both

[indigo scaffold]

ayt sir tyvm

[hexed schooner]

I use both no issues so far

[mellow quartz]

But using text to speech in WA’s is the way to go. Can set it to say whatever you want.

[indigo scaffold]

whats the link?

[echo grail]

There was just an update pushed to grim batol: something called "depths grasp immunity"
They wouldnt make the tentacles immune right?

[mellow quartz]

Read what wowhead says

They have no idea

How can we guess

[hexed schooner]

I guess u have to rely on CC's then, u stat and gear are top

[fossil dragon]

Yeah, i don't think there were any ccs there except shockwave and i had a 90% uptime on both sb and ip

So i did not forget to press them pretty sure

[sweet summit]

looking at the first pull here
green circles are good IPs. white is don't do this (over cap for 3 seconds) red circles are bad IPs, and yellow is fine but could be delayed a bit
i don't have time to look at everything because i need to do the campaign before bed :3 but mistakes usually carry over

[fossil dragon]

Thanks

[sweet summit]

you also only have 70% blocked hits. i recommend going HR

[fossil dragon]

I've been experimenting with both HR and ItF, is HR better right now overall?

[sweet summit]

itf is better if you can maintain good block uptime as it simply is more damage. but HR is a lot better defensively

[rigid laurel]

should I prioritise revenge over execute?

[sweet summit]

sometimes

[rigid laurel]

wowhead has revenge higher, but doesnt that mean you just never cast execute?

[hexed schooner]

Is this trinket any good?

[sweet summit]

execute is more damage per rage on like 3 or less targets i think
but execute is always better (if you have the rage for it) on prio targets that you want dead asap

[rigid laurel]

ok, so for braindead ease of use, execute > revenge with a minor dps impact on aoe situations

but I like to keep some brain cycles for not standing shit

[sweet summit]

sure, but keep in mind execute costs up to 40 rage while revenge always costs 20 unless it's free

[waxen frigate]

Nopers

[rigid laurel]

right, thanks. By the time I think about either of those its either that or IP

[hexed schooner]

Not even for the flat damage reduction? Damn i got it to 610 man

[waxen frigate]

Well that’s the only thing to it so yea

[sweet summit]

is that tooltip accurate?

[hexed schooner]

Not so sure got it from wowhead, as am away from pc

[waxen frigate]

Believe so from what I’ve seen

+/- a couple hundred

[sweet summit]

26k when we have millions of hp doesn't sound all that hot

[waxen frigate]

It’s also allegedly pre-mit

Which means it’s effectively giga worthless

[sweet summit]

holy hell

[waxen frigate]

Since reducing 80% of a 1mil vs 975k hit is lmao

[sweet summit]

allergic to making real tank trinkets

[hexed schooner]

[cyan epoch]

For silken court is the best strategy for the two tanks to swap bosses each time a piercing strikes goes out? Or should one tank continue to eat the poison bolts / void bolts the whole time?

[waxen frigate]

Tbh it doesn’t really matter

Boss does zero dmg to tanks

Ideally you won’t eat the caster boss the whole time as prot though, it’s just the worst at managing that

[hexed schooner]

They changed that i believe

[cyan epoch]

Once spell reflect and spell block are on CD those poison bolts start to hurt if not cleansed immediately

[hexed schooner]

Know piercing strike will shred i guess

[cyan epoch]

So probably safest bet is to full swap, just takes some coordination. Tough in a pug

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/AwGAUJp.gif

its so pretty

[rotund sluice]

Yesterday I noticed thunderclap wouldn't refresh it's slow effect on spotters in SoB is this intended behavior?

[toxic pewter]

thats the pvp set right

[sweet summit]

was there a stronger slow on the target?

[rotund sluice]

No. When the slow dropped the spotter would leap away same with 2nd boss. Only workaround was to watch for the effect to completely fall off the reapply to maintain the slow

[sweet summit]

oh like that

what the hell

[rotund sluice]

Ya I think it's a bug but I wanted to bring it up here before I put in a report when servers come up

[strong forum]

my spotters have never leapt away for as long as i hit them

only when i cheaped out of pressing TC

[waxen frigate]

Idk, piercing strike is kinda a joke honestly

[quick crescent]

hi all, I'm a prot noob and was wondering if bleed damage is worth building into (primarily the Bloodborne talent?) Or is it a waste

[waxen frigate]

Well you presumably aren’t asking about mythic right now

So I was speaking on the extant heroic/normal versions

Which do zero dmg to tanks

[graceful kite]

I hate shamans

You take a shaman they do the craziest thing ever to ruin your key

[hexed schooner]

Oh wait yea thats for mythic only, wtf so they just did that because they were solo tanking it ? Wtf is wrong with this company

[smoky anvil]

Very handsome

[waxen frigate]

They completely failed at designing this raid from a tank pov

It is not remotely interesting or challenging

[graceful kite]

Dude goes to nw picks up spear and dc's on a boss. Comes back, says he's gonna relog, relogs, runs out of a dungeon losing a spear and requests summon after which he stand afk for another couple minutes

[waxen frigate]

Sigma male

[graceful kite]

Or shaman goes to stonevault , furst pull

[sweet summit]

so based

[smoky anvil]

Sugma male more like.

[graceful kite]

uses spirit link and NOTHING else

dies without pressing any defensive or potion or anything

I have 600k+ hps he has 300k 80% is spirit link

[mighty valley]

Our standard builds do a decent amount of bleed damage normally through auto-spreading rend and deep wounds. Bloodborne is an ok little dps increase, it's just really hard to spare the points unless you're playing content that doesn't need Spell Block at all

[smoky anvil]

Sounds like enh in wotlk. Something looks at you? “Guess I die then.”

[graceful kite]

types guys you don't press defensives it's gonna take over an hour

LEAVES

(only he died)

[tropic linden]

What thank were they using to 1 tank it? Prot can't tank those casts for the entire fight

[patent musk]

am i cooked for not running ravager/spear of bastion nor thunderous roar for m+? They feel bad to play so i just drop em

[graceful kite]

They don't use skyfury, they don't use bloodlust

only thing they do is interrupt when i'm reflecting

[sweet summit]

yeah

[mighty valley]

that's a lot of damage you're giving up for basically no reason

[hexed schooner]

Druid or monk they were using

[graceful kite]

yes

[quick crescent]

Okay got it, appreciate the advice!

[graceful kite]

both ravager and spear give a lot of rage

ravager helps gathering shit when it's grouping up also and spear roots mobs like in arakara first or mists last boss

[tropic linden]

Those changes on Silken Court are for all dificulties or only mythic?

[hexed schooner]

The roar is much better for me feeling wise, so i run with that and fuck the spear

[patent musk]

i like taking the 2% crit node instead of spear, makes me tankier

and it feels nice

[mighty valley]

ok! it's worse but you can do what you feel

[hexed schooner]

Mythic for now at least, they can't have the player come with their own strategy i guess

[tropic linden]

What do u run instead of ravager? Cause I don't see any other option that is as good at prot tree

[sweet summit]

it does not make you tankier, what?

[hexed schooner]

Look at the top warrior in m+ in raider io, non use ravager, but they use the spear

[patent musk]

didnt 2% crit give us parry chance and crit block

[hexed schooner]

Well crit does

[sweet summit]

not % increases, just the raw stat

and crit block is our mastery

two completely separate stats

[patent musk]

ngl that sounds fake a fuck, if it is true i'd rather be misinformed

% crit not giving us parry chance seems fake

[sweet summit]

unless it has changed going into tww which i doubt, i'm right

[hexed schooner]

Idk man am just gonna use whatever has more haste and ignore the rest. Can't keep up with this raw and % any more

[sweet summit]

before crit talent

[tropic linden]

Raider.IO pull talent tree from armory, not the talent they used at the key. It's the talent they used when logged out. May not be accurate

[sweet summit]

after crit talent

[tropic linden]

Better use warcraftlogs

[sweet summit]

left with, right without

removed haste crit ring

see parry changed

[hexed schooner]

U r right, gonna check it now

[narrow hull]

gonna be a bunch of dorki fans running battle scarred in +2's surely

[waxen frigate]

Bro what the hell

[sweet summit]

nish don't be rude

[mighty valley]

yeah the bleeding edge key tanks are sometimes dropping ravager to get bsv since basically any survivability no matter how cooked is desirable

but even then it's only half of them

[patent musk]

yep thats me rn, my fantasy as a tank is being as tanky as possible, disregarding all damage increase

[graceful kite]

ravager is defensively better than bsv

[tropic linden]

Ravage makes u tankier by giving u tons of rage that transforms in more IP

[graceful kite]

it gives you rage so it gives you indomitable healing ignore pain and cdr on defensives

[waxen frigate]

Not crit block

But 2% parry yes

[hexed schooner]

So only thing we are getting is dps increase from 2 talents point?

[narrow hull]

yeah but like, no ones actively holding it for its defensive purposes 99% of the time.

[sweet summit]

yep

[mighty valley]

bsv is stronger defensively in extremely specific situations which these tanks are hunting for, wouldn't recommend it to most

[waxen frigate]

You’re getting a lot of rage

Which equates to more ignore pain

Which is tankier

[sweet summit]

i feel like we are having two different conversations, nish

[hexed schooner]

[patent musk]

i would also like to share that binding intervene to a 4 different buttons like alt+1234 is very beneficial, just in 1 key i managed to save 2 different people with due to the faster reaction time it enables

definitely huge for some specific keys where someone needs a quick defensive

[tropic linden]

Why not do a mouseover macro and click on the partyframe?

[sweet summit]

if you have binds available sure, i'm a big fan of mouseover macro

[waxen frigate]

I don’t know what’s happening ever

[sweet summit]

you're so real for that oomfie

[waxen frigate]

I don’t even have one bind for intervene let alone 4

This is some PvP Andy shit

[patent musk]

yeah i pvp on my hunter which uses arena 123 for 3 different spells, so having intervene on party 1234 is easy enough

[waxen frigate]

Granted it’s definitely effective and it is what they do in PvP

Yea

If you’re a pvper it makes absolute sense

You already have that muscle memory

[torpid merlin]

is there a spreadsheet or resource out there for high priority Intervene encounters similar to what exists for spell reflect?

[sweet summit]

not yet, but you can kickstart it !

[waxen frigate]

French exclamation point 🤢

[patent musk]

in my case, it isn't up for you to know that, but it is up on ur allies to call it

[sweet summit]

cry about it !!!

[torpid merlin]

is it ONLY physical melee/ranged attacks? or are there some physical damage spells that get included?

[patent musk]

nono, i am using it for the shield 😄

[urban portal]

Physical spells sometime work

[patent musk]

idk if it can even redirect any boss attack

[urban portal]

But you actually have to know case by case

[sweet summit]

i'm not french i don't get it

[waxen frigate]

Oh thank god

[sweet summit]

nish i need you to decide for me

do i craft shield or weppy tomorrow

[waxen frigate]

Idk

Hope this helps

[sweet summit]

thank, i appreciate your input

[sweet summit]

OMG SPIDERMAN

[tropic linden]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/protection/warrior/mythic-plus/talents/10/all-dungeons/this-week#hero-talents
Sumary from warcraft logs, most ppl run ravage at high keys

[chilly brook]

servers still down I assume?

[waxen frigate]

Nah that’s me

[sweet summit]

who is not running ravager?

[tropic linden]

Some ppl are running BSV instead at some 10+ at wowlog

[jagged pier]

Tbats not what u drop for bsv

[sweet summit]

very interesting in a bad way

[jagged pier]

[tropic linden]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/39/#class=Warrior&spec=Protection&heroTree=61&bracket=10

[jagged pier]

Fotmer's

[waxen frigate]

Wait I didn’t even think about this

Keeping shield charge??

Lmao

[jagged pier]

I guess

[chilly brook]

people do stupid things at the top of the leaderboard

why didn't you just say it was another tuesday?

[tropic linden]

I mean, u dont NEED ravage to time a 10+, it just make it easier

[chilly brook]

you don't need a lot of things

to do 10s

[jagged pier]

U dont need anything to time a 10 expect a compentent group of players

[chilly brook]

doesn't meant that it's not stupid

[sweet summit]

i don't need keybinds either, it's just objectively better

[torpid merlin]

arguably the most difficult thing to get

[sweet summit]

real

and true

and so on and so forth

[waxen frigate]

Real

[jagged pier]

Even thats debatable you could get really good rng on every pull in a 10 and ppl just rng into mechanics and tome a 10

Thats very unlikely but could happen

[stable shard]

hey guys i'm going my first dawnbreaker 10 as wprot

[brittle owl]

isn't this the first week of m+

[stable shard]

what the cd rotation on first boss

for the laser buster?

is spell reflect enough to tank it?

[tropic linden]

SR+IP should be enough

But u can rotate with Spell Reflect and SW

And Shout

[jade tartan]

How important is a shield for tank

[jagged pier]

Very

[maiden nimbus]

I spell block first until spell block is down.

Shield wall next.

Last stand if both on cd.

Repeat.

Also think you can reflect every one too

[tropic linden]

For which tank? If u ask a BDK it will say very little

[jade tartan]

Can u describe the difference between a 606 and 626 shield?

[jagged pier]

Huge

[jade tartan]

How huge

Is there any numbers about it I am curious

[waxen frigate]

20 item levels

I really don’t understand the point of this question

[indigo scaffold]

yuge

[jagged pier]

What was it 1% dr for 1 ilvl in df it was like 3ilvls was 3%dr on shield or am i miss rembering

[strong forum]

defensively the single most important item

[tropic linden]

If u google it u will find a formula for how much block reduces the dmg, u trow in the ilvl and see how it changes

[indigo scaffold]

just wondering, what is your defensive rotation for queen ansurek heroic for the 3 feasts that she does on p1? cause im usually assigned to that mech while the other tank is on the liquefy cast

[jade tartan]

Thx I am Ilvl 613. I do play dps but for m+ I am tanking. Doing some 10/9s. And I wonder how big I need a shield

[jade tartan]

Thx

[tropic linden]

https://tanknotes.com/resources/armor-block/
Found it

[waxen frigate]

As big as possible

Same as all other gear

[violet ginkgo]

you need 639 shield

[tropic linden]

Used to love tanknotes.com as a resource, sadly it's not maintained anymore

[copper nest]

Hey guys, quick, probably stupid question. Is it viable to tank M5+ in dps gear with a shield? How crucial is tank gear to being able to tank? A raid needs 2 tanks for 20 people, but if those same 20 people go mythic+ we need 4 tanks. I want to "fill the gap" but trying to gear mill DPS gear and tank gear at the same time feels like a real chore.

[tropic linden]

Totaly doable

iLVL is king

Secondary stats are, as the name, secondary

[copper nest]

Ok then follow up question, when do the secondary stats actually make a difference? When do you start noticing the lack there of?

[tropic linden]

Maybe in those 12+? IDK, many ppl doing 10+ rn and no one have bis gear yet

[plush tendon]

99% of playing tank is gameplay

that last 1% is gearing

[copper nest]

Ok, thank you for the response

[tropic linden]

And luckly, haste is good for arms, fury and prot

[cerulean abyss]

I'm going with haste/crit all over

Swapping trinkets and weps between specs

[tropic linden]

Nonono, use 2h for prot, more dmg

[cerulean abyss]

Works for DKs 🤷‍♀️

[copper nest]

Yeah just put your MH fury weapon in MH and then put your shield on before you switch to prot spec. Works everytime.

[cerulean abyss]

The real Colossus spec

[lavish turtle]

Newish to retail - Can someone explain the reason why iLvL is so important? Is there a calculation done on damage taken/mitigated that plays purely off of the item level of gear? Or is the phrase "iLVL is king" referring to the base stats being higher on anything with a higher iLvL?

[torpid merlin]

largely due to main stat being so important (strength), and secondarily due to increase in secondary stats as well as stamina

[tribal wharf]

we're in

[cerulean abyss]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/stat-priority-pve-tank

[tribal wharf]

maybe

[mighty valley]

it just means that the gains from mainstat + total budget of secondaries almost always outweighs the particular spread of specific secondaries

[tribal wharf]

loading screen boss

[ivory bay]

What exactly does spell block do for abilities? For example, will it block or reduce the shadow portion of the damage taken from Princess Ky'veza's void shredder ability?

[cerulean abyss]

he got hands today

[tribal wharf]

ya its not fully letting me on lmao

[last pebble]

we prot vault openers or arms vault openers

[tribal wharf]

do u need shield, prot

if not, dps

[cerulean abyss]

i need pants and a 2h, arms here

[last pebble]

yeah i think im crafting shield and sword

[mighty valley]

it applies the damage reduction value of your block to relevant spells - check the sheet in pins to see important spells it works on

[ivory bay]

Thank you!

[last pebble]

no sick tnak trinkets though right?

[cerulean abyss]

u silly

[toxic pewter]

they need to allow free transfers off of area 52 again this quality of life is so awful compared to other servers

[plush tendon]

I think any move from a full/high pop server to a med/low pop server should be free

[toxic pewter]

yeah I have thought the same thing for a long time also

[plush tendon]

or at least severly reduced price

[toxic pewter]

df and tww has really made area 52 a lot worse

[plush tendon]

like 50%-75%

[toxic pewter]

I remember df launch day was awful

[mighty valley]

dead game

[cerulean abyss]

stuck on a52 loading screen

[plush tendon]

ive been debating moving back to my old dead server of Arthas

to hang out with Nim

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I am getting off a52 asap I just dont want to pay to do it lmao

[lusty grotto]

it works exactly like block, except crit blocks can reach 100% mit

[noble prism]

I currently have a shield with 610 ilvl and boots with 580 ilvl. I have the materials to craft an item with 619 ilvl. Should I craft a new shield or new boots?
M+9 very hard to me nowadays do complete...

[cerulean abyss]

my other toon is on stormrage and it's soo much smoother

[foggy ingot]

Rare Cloak, or Myth Gloves (I have hero gloves)

[toxic pewter]

is that the very rare cloak

[foggy ingot]

Yea

[toxic pewter]

I would take that myself

[lusty grotto]

, just keep in mind that there are no crafters so im rushing my crafting army

[foggy ingot]

Prob just cloak yea

it's 6/6 Hero too

[cerulean abyss]

oooh cloak

[toxic pewter]

thats the cloak from rasha nan right

[plush tendon]

work orders work cross server in guild

[lusty grotto]

ya

[plush tendon]

so that works perfect for me

[toxic pewter]

yeah I would grab that cloak personally but thats just me

[cerulean abyss]

anyone have numbers on the cloak affect?

[toxic pewter]

its bis cloak only a better version of the cloak replaces it

[cerulean abyss]

got a 1/6 hero from a t8 delve

[slim cairn]

Happy weekly disappointment day, everyone.

I'm ready to log in and get my myth sacbrood

[toxic pewter]

2 dc's from area 52 so far

lets see if i can get a 3rd

[cerulean abyss]

same 😦

[tribal wharf]

i have a feeling they are sticking to guns hard about the resets for week

ohhhh

[grizzled nova]

sometimes lucky

[tribal wharf]

give it a minute

[toxic pewter]

nice

[ornate magnet]

which one yall think? i have both already but hero ilvl 🥶

[indigo scaffold]

are servers up?

[toxic pewter]

yes

[astral crystal]

should i open vault as prot or fury 🤔

already got a big shield

[toxic pewter]

I take it u need a 1h weapon

[astral crystal]

i have heroic sikran weap

[lofty veldt]

btw gamers

[toxic pewter]

do u want prot trinkets

[lofty veldt]

is warcraft logs working for you.

[toxic pewter]

if not I guess open fury

[astral crystal]

only trink i want is sac i think

[tribal wharf]

im really tempted to take the ring

but

[astral crystal]

fury can't drop 2h right?

[toxic pewter]

if you dont want a better shield or even 1h weapon and no tank trinkets may as well open arms

[indigo scaffold]

1 and 2 hand

[drifting rampart]

this trinket is actual dogshit right?

[dusk bramble]

is Meathook still bis trinket?

[dusty raven]

guys help me, should i pick bis trinket or finish 4 piece with gloves?

[grizzled nova]

It wouldn't be bad for pushing if it were just a use trinket, but tying it to taunt is so unncessary and weird

[grizzled nova]

no

[jagged pier]

guys please just

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[unique wyvern]

That would be ask too much it ain't a wow Tuesday without the vault flood

[toxic pewter]

dont know what to take.. aldready have the very rare neck as champion track but I guess I want a hero track version of it.. then there mythic trinket and mythic pants 😮

[lusty grotto]

sim yo self, treat yo self

im saving this gif

[manic cypress]

what are the bis 2 crafted slots?

[sharp epoch]

this or hero track tier hands (i have 580 hands, 0 tier pieces, and i dont raid on this char)

[tribal wharf]

trinket was only real option i had

[thin pollen]

is this uber BIS?

[tribal wharf]

ring tert and track but ya, shit stats

[lusty grotto]

[tribal wharf]

oh no

[strong forum]

dont pick hero track gear from vault

[devout tiger]

The loot gods decided they were going to make my decision a little difficult today

[strong forum]

ez neck

like not even a choice

[toxic pewter]

waht about hero track very rare neck vs mythic pants

[thin pollen]

why not?

[strong forum]

cuz you can farm hero track from m+?

[strong forum]

then neck

[toxic pewter]

its the very rare neck i mean

i already got a champion version of it

[thin pollen]

everything in my vault is hero track though

and already have 4 set

[strong forum]

that neck is only getting replaced by mythic version of itself

[toxic pewter]

what about hero very rare neck vs this mythic trinket

that trinket kinda whatever right

[lusty grotto]

its good

[toxic pewter]

fuuuu

[tribal wharf]

its good but it has some downsides

[quartz viper]

is darlmoon sigil Ascension bis for us?

[tribal wharf]

total negative if you mis-use it

[lusty grotto]

[nocturne spindle]

ez weapon bois

[marble night]

wouldnt chant of armored avoidance make more sense than leech? could someone explain to me why leech is better ty

[tropic tangle]

you're generally not in danger from group wide AOE damage

[lusty grotto]

avoidance does nothing to tanks

[marble night]

oh

just read what it does

[tropic tangle]

that's meant to kill DPS, not tanks

[marble night]

durr

[strong forum]

time to unzip colossus in mists 10

[brisk sphinx]

How does Refracting Aggression Module work with Ignore pain. Do both 'bubbles' absorb at the same time? or one before the other? Bad trinket or?

[strong forum]

full absorb before ignore pain

IP comes last

[brisk sphinx]

Is it any good? I mean 2+ million bubble sounds good but...M+ low key player atm.

[strong forum]

its on taunt

soooo

pretty shit

[brisk sphinx]

Thats what my gut says.

[strong forum]

good gut

[zealous goblet]

i think i take the taunt thing, right?

[lusty grotto]

lol

what

[strong forum]

hell naw

[lusty grotto]

scatter no trolling on tuesdays

[strong forum]

that trinket is scam

[zealous goblet]

man iunno im not trolling honest, i already have 3 tier pieces on hero track, we get another catalyst today, right?

[lusty grotto]

yup

[zealous goblet]

and i already got a heroic shield

[toxic pewter]

yes catalyst charge and another half of a spark

[lusty grotto]

so pick ilvl > all or sim

[strong forum]

then pick sockets

[inner wren]

swarmgland kinda poopy tho..

[strong forum]

its not that poopy

[inner wren]

u think so?

[strong forum]

does good dmg for a defensive trinket

[inner wren]

maybe i just cop

[strong forum]

(i wouldnt pick it from vault)

[inner wren]

dont got many choices

[reef quiver]

does the prot 4 set work on blast as well or just clap

[zealous goblet]

wait, sockets over ilvl?

[lusty grotto]

if you can consistently farm hero gear, socket is better

unless its an ultra rare item from raid

so nome is right

for obvious reasons

[zealous goblet]

the voices in my head are winning

i'm taking trinket fuckit. my current trinket is literally miles worse, and after that run i did with my friends yesterday another defensive sounds good to me

[lusty grotto]

fucking picked the wrong tier piece on my vdh

😦

[zealous goblet]

it's fine you're gonna get another in raid

trust

[lusty grotto]

lmao

i dont raid with alts though

[zealous goblet]

you do now big boiii

[maiden nimbus]

Stuck on what to get from my vault. All of these sim within ~0.5% upgrade and currently only Champion slot in all these slots.

Gloves will give me the change to get 4 set this week (currently 1/4)
Ara-kara would be great long term and save on that farm.
Shield would give me a hero track shield

I don't raid only m+.

[restive cypress]

Throngus's finger shit?

[lusty grotto]

pretty much shit yes

[restive cypress]

Thanks

[zealous goblet]

now i wonder

what the best way to get this taunt is

1min cd

if i should just bind it to an ability macro or some shit

[lusty grotto]

dont know

we're never picking that trinket

so youre on your own

uncharted territory

[zealous goblet]

FUCK

another censored message

[lusty grotto]

lmaooo

[zealous goblet]

I'M A PIONEER... IN.... MENTAL.... DISABILITY..?

DOES THAT WORK

OK IT DOES

[lusty grotto]

[valid bridge]

Anyone have any opinions on this shield? Showed up in my vault and not sure if it has any value

[lusty grotto]

its garbo, but if its higher track than what you have, then equip it

[lime spruce]

already have my Ara-Kara Sacbrood, all I play is M+, which is better?

[elfin garden]

no stam

[south zealot]

its benas

beans

[spiral rain]

hmmm champion track sacbrood or 616 haste/vers/avoidance/socketed bracers?

[slate crow]

Is this shield decent?

[south zealot]

its beans p2

[lusty grotto]

brother

[south zealot]

love vault day

[lusty grotto]

scroll up

[elfin garden]

its shit

[valid bridge]

lmao

[lusty grotto]

literally 2 lines

[slate crow]

Sorry folks 😦 my bad, work and play at the same time it's never a brilliant idea 😦

[lime spruce]

it's okay you just took the attention away from my question 👀

[lusty grotto]

no worries, it was just posted literally as you hit enter

[lime spruce]

Skarmorak Shard vs Spare Meat Hook for purely M+ tank

[lusty grotto]

5 target patchwerk 1 min or 1.5 mins for M+

sim sim sim sim sim sim sim sim sim sim sim sim

[strong needle]

Man I have to decide between the very rare neck and completing my 4pc

[south zealot]

ill keep it 100 i sim 1t 5m dslice and 8t 1.5m whenever i sim for m+

[lusty grotto]

yeah i mean

[south zealot]

though these dungeons make it hard to pull that many enemies

[lusty grotto]

its just easier to give the barebones one

[south zealot]

5 more consistently realistic

[lusty grotto]

to people asking

right

[rough quest]

isnt it good? in +10s to have it at the start of every other pull. when its more dangerous you have a decent shield at the start to have time to ramp up your mitigation?

[inland helm]

we got an extra catalyst if you didnt use that yet, we have 2 now

[strong needle]

Yeah I'm very unlucky with gear, I have 1PC rn

because someone pity gave me the curio

[valid bridge]

Where do we see our catalysts?

[dense glade]

Got the ring from last boss in vault, what nature dmg can we do to make it proc more? Does prot have access to any nature?

[lusty grotto]

there was a quest directing you to it

[lavish copper]

is there a list of best defensive trinkets?

[strong needle]

I dunno how much better the neck is vs other necks in its slot

like i could sim it against mine but thats not super useful

[lusty grotto]

here you go Jlink

[valid bridge]

oh its the harmonized silk. Are we supposed to have 2 of those right now or more?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[elfin garden]

2

[valid bridge]

Sweet, thanks

Is it just me or is our set bonus kinda meh?

Should I be rushing for it or no big deal?

[elfin garden]

no big deal imo, its ok not great

[lusty grotto]

between having something and nothing which is more valuable?

answer that question and youll have your answer

[valid bridge]

betweem a constructive answer and a pointless one, which is more valuable?

xD

[tropic tangle]

probably no need to rush

[valid bridge]

Was only asking to see if you guys thought it was worth chasing with intention or not, not complaining

[tropic tangle]

but it's some damage and some DR

[valid bridge]

Yeah thats kinda how I'm feeling about it, extra damage is nice but I'll hold off on using catalyst charges for now

[lusty grotto]

moving on

[strong needle]

Feels bad passing up a very rare item but man i want 4pc lol

[lusty grotto]

you shouldnt have then

[south zealot]

get the neck if its hero track or higher

[strong needle]

i havent selected anything

its 6/6 hero

[forest lodge]

How good is our 4 piece set? I have the option to get some 610 shoulders that I can convert to tier for the 2 set, or take a crappy 584 helm and just get the 4 piece.

[tropic tangle]

Not good enough to take a 584 helm

[valid bridge]

My main healer is a resto shammy who sometimes complains about mana, so I figured the neck would be helpful for him. Plus thats a crap load of haste. (assuming we mean the same neck)

[strong needle]

I'll do heroic today see if i hit on the neck otherwise prob taking that, seems too good to pass up

[valid bridge]

Definitely take the 610 shoulders

[lusty grotto]

the neck alone wont make you survive more

were not saying neck because of that

we're saying neck because its rare

[dense glade]

Anyone know if warrior has a way to do nature dmg to proc ring from final raid boss? It's in my vault

[lusty grotto]

and the chances of someone getting it without guild loot distribution, is small

[strong needle]

im doing 10s fine, Im not pushing this week anyways 1/2 my group is on vaca

[tropic tangle]

rare, haste heavy, everyone wants it

[lusty grotto]

brother do you know what Mountain Thane is?

[valid bridge]

That massive chunk of haste has the hidden value of allowing you to take less well-itemized rings and other pieces, which is honestly great

RNG protection in a way

[dense glade]

Oh nice, yeh ima take it then

[tropic tangle]

even aside from that, I don't think it's possible to get to a point this tier where we wouldn't take more haste

[lusty grotto]

its not

worry about haste caps next season

[valid bridge]

Good point, despite the fast pace of thane I still always feel like i have more buttons i could be mashing if GCD was faster

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/OQqUViA.png

COLOSUSS GO BRRRR

[lusty grotto]

no u

[little sigil]

Sims are saying myth wep instead of crafted wep with ascension with around 10k dps difference.
Do that or take the properly statted myth belt and go for crafted wep/shield?

[lusty grotto]

trust the sim

[little sigil]

🫡

[lusty grotto]

dont worry about "properly stotted" theres a reason why we keep mentioning ilvl > all

[strong forum]

pick it

that ring is turbo bis

you aint getting it easily in a pug

and yes, mountain thane does nature damage

[valid bridge]

Especially for a weapon, where the secondary stat count is relatively low

[inland raft]

unfortunate vault

[lusty grotto]

vault fucking me since its intro as a dumb chest in 2016

hero to myth tier for me 😄

at least its something i guess

[jagged pier]

a good trinket on myth track

yes unfortunate

[marble night]

you can have two duskthread linings active at the same time?

[toxic pewter]

yes

[lusty grotto]

yes

any embelish stacks

[marble night]

hmmm

idk if my buff tooltip is bugged then

[lusty grotto]

it will be

fly up

drop down

let it refresh

[marble night]

its only showing amount for 1 embelishment

[lusty grotto]

read

[marble night]

ah

[green bronze]

should look like this

[lusty grotto]

fly up, jump down, let it refresh

it has the BSL bug

[marble night]

yeah

thanks

makes sense

[raven sluice]

why does obsidian beam hit me regardless or where i am in danwbreaker?

[noble prism]

Elemental Focusing Lens, stacks too?

[green bronze]

first hit always hits tank

[green bronze]

yes

[peak maple]

should i craft a shield or weap first?

[strong forum]

you should be able to craft 3 items with this reset

[peak maple]

yeah i sent my first two sparks on embellishments

[strong forum]

thats

not a smart play as prot

shoulda crafted shield with an embellishment on it

but oh well

can craft shield now if you want more survivability, weapon if you want more dmg output

[lean panther]

@inland raft why not the spare meat hook 623?

[strong forum]

you dont want to pick non-bis trinkets from vault

and ideally also not hero-track items

[lean panther]

Is meat hook not bis?

[strong forum]

is not anymore

after they made it do 33% less dmg cuz of tank trinket aura

[lean panther]

Damn been farming it not knowing

What’s are bis now

[strong forum]

from keys you want larynx and sac

skarmorak shard or mark of khadros also great

[lean panther]

Alright

Thank you

[strong forum]

from raid you want madqueens mandate

[tribal wharf]

but you have to kill her to see it in vault dont u

[strong forum]

correct

i got it from my first vault

[inland raft]

what you suggest i take nom? not really any good option

[tribal wharf]

take the item that is the best for you

[valid bridge]

Anyone what ilvl the rewards from the world boss scale up to? (if they scale at all)

[tribal wharf]

the one that sims best and is stuff you want

[jaunty pagoda]

Just got a 603 belt from it, am sad.

[valid bridge]

i do have some crappy 593 pants still somehow, so I'd take 603 pants if that's on the menu

[tribal wharf]

hey i will take 603 gear

[valid bridge]

my ilvl is 608 but those pants are my last poop piece

[lusty grotto]

i swear youre uuid blessed

[zealous goblet]

from raid you want my nuts

goddem

XDDDDDD

sorry i peaked in high school

[strong forum]

I'll get 639 raid neck from vault

Watch me

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/clout-thanos-smile-pathetic-cloutchaser-gif-13640426

[lusty grotto]

ok you need to calm down

nome

[waxen frigate]

I hope you get all capes

[strong forum]

Fakin watch me

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[zealous goblet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/193278651020738561/835698784512114698/ezgif.com-gif-maker3.gif

[strong forum]

The raid cape would also be good

[lusty grotto]

nish what have you done!

[tribal wharf]

ill take whatever the hell i can get

[undone beacon]

big mediocre vault wooo

[tribal wharf]

yogi = ratge vault

every time

[strong forum]

I mean yeah, with only hero/champion track vaults there's not much excitement to expect

[tribal wharf]

did 2 boses only lfr dk

time to see what he got

nothin

[lusty grotto]

man anyone miss yogi

idk who this penance guy is

[tribal wharf]

ya, cuz ur not good enough to reach eviteron

[toxic pewter]

wat

[lusty grotto]

def not cause idk what that is

[strong forum]

He's casting spells

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/work-life-im-done-no-more-screw-this-gif-16867052

[strong forum]

Anywho, time for bedge

[tribal wharf]

my dk hs a hard sac rifice to chose from

weapon.... or speed balls, i mean sac

[lusty grotto]

can you pick a name change back to deathray or yogi

[cosmic canyon]

Ok, I'm gonna come off as a nub again. But how can it be tyrannical and fortified at the same week? They remade the system? What's different from bfa you reckon?

Also. This season has 8 maps for +M. I see other seasons in the past has had for example 12 maps in the pool.

Is the +io score adjusted per map depending on how many maps are in the pool. Or will certain seasons just naturally produce higher io scores? If they have additional maps

[tribal wharf]

ok

there

dont say i dont do anything for you

[lusty grotto]

10s have both tyr and fort

see here

[tribal wharf]

i only speak to fellow blasphemous 2 enjoyers now

[cosmic canyon]

So I shouldn't expect much difference in gameplay next week (after weekly reset)

?

Only ascendancy that changes?

[lusty grotto]

if youre doing sub 10s

youre doing fort only

hope that helps

bargain changes week to week

[tribal wharf]

whats this weeks affix about

[lusty grotto]

fort and tyr alternate week to week

[tribal wharf]

something to do with same ish mechanic as boss 3 thread

[rich folio]

What were you expecting with champ track gear lol

[neon elk]

Stop orbs from resching mobs, u get mastery and leech iirc , otherwise mobs get dmg@tribal wharf

[tribal wharf]

is it something i should let dps players pick up first, if it gves a buff

which i assume it does

[undone beacon]

maybe a nice trinket or somethin for my shitter alt lol

[real fossil]

Wait the buff isn’t group wide?

[lusty grotto]

it gives everyone the buff

[real fossil]

That’s so toxic

[tribal wharf]

huh, interesting

[real fossil]

Oh good

[lusty grotto]

no bargain buffs only 1 person

its all group wide

you should always help as a tank

[tribal wharf]

i liked last weeks affix TBH i actually had valid reason to hit inting shout

[balmy remnant]

My group has a windwalker so we just rop every single time it pops and it’s free

[lusty grotto]

yeah

and if not shockwave and fear pretty much clean house

[balmy remnant]

Or cap totem

Yeah

[tribal wharf]

my 2nd team was hoarding all the balls

first group was just angry and complainy so i farmed block list

[onyx moon]

How much haste do i need to get off of heavy repercussions

[jagged pier]

around 40% unbuffed

[smoky anvil]

Aka not feasible rn

[red dock]

Tier shoulders is obvious choice right? I dont really raid much so probably wont get it otherwise

[tribal wharf]

fang is terrible

[vivid orchid]

ill take it

[sick sentinel]

just looted a +leech sacbrood 😎

[amber knoll]

sorry if this has been asked 1000x, what spec is everyone opening their vault with?

[vivid orchid]

prot - no shield yet

[agile elbow]

Arms if you don't need a weapon/shield, prot if you do.

[red siren]

Hi, i look for craft but i don’t know wich embellish is the best … When i look top War tank they don’t the same embellish
Someone has done a sim to know wich one is the best ?

[proud dock]

how many crests do u get from a +9, timed and untimed?

[shrewd ore]

12/5

[proud dock]

ty

[twilit burrow]

chest is big ilvl upgrade and gives me 3pc but the rare cloak

[wicked pollen]

How much haste do you need to play iftk 25%?

[shrewd ore]

40

[twilit burrow]

iftk?

[green bronze]

but everyone is already playing itf

i run itf with just 25% haste, can keep 100% uptime of sb while active, if you use it smartly

[onyx moon]

Is into the fray still worth taking in raid?

[green bronze]

its must take in raid)

[coral yew]

Hello,I need advice what embelishemts you put on your prot. warr on m+

[green bronze]

how exactly does itf work tho, i get +11% haste when on 4 stacks

[vivid orchid]

its a multiplier