Or being like Enha's original version, since ours were announced at the same time as that cracked out tier set
#protection
pallid quiver
strong forum
Colossus is a nice break from thane
And thane is a nice change of pace from colossus
And both do good numbers
So that's nice
Just doing a +7 and spamming the fuck out of revenge giving the dps a run for their money is good fun
pallid quiver
Having both hero talents be actually usable is more than other specs can say
strong forum
Compared to the sweaty gameplay that is thane
pallid quiver
https://tenor.com/view/mashing-kid-mashing-wild-gif-16909532
Off topic, but holy shit this kid was having the fucking time of his life in that match
That was one of the most feel good exhibitions to ever watch
jagged pier
about the same in curent gear tbh
strong forum
I did my first 1mil overall as colossus in ara kara
Thane I only did like 980k in mists 10 I think
Or 920k, can't remember
round pendant
only
strong forum
I could do way more if my weapon wasn't a fucking 606
pallid quiver
imagine getting your key to a +10 instead of being locked at +8s since your friends keep dying like 10 times in the +8
round pendant
You guys are doing +8s?
I've had a god awful time pugging
Haven't even managed a 6 yet
pallid quiver
I could do way more if my weapon wasn't a fucking 606
i lost a wep in raid to someone who OS tank today
felt real bad
pallid quiver
Going into Stonevault makes me sad, because the DPS have no self-preservation
Like it's very easy to pull big if they, like, at least press a defensive to not get bolted to death
jagged granite
Guys I have a question regarding gearing for high m+, Is it still haste verse or has crit for parry made a comeback?
pallid quiver
Haste Crit has been prio for years
strong forum
Beyond haste it doesn't rly matter, but we have alot of crit interactions for dmg output and parry is pretty fucking huge in keys
jagged pier
i got flamed in a SV 6 yesterday, because i said i would do crystals then the tank and melee decided to kill all the crystals at once, 
jagged granite
What? All rank 100 and above I've seen on rio has gone haste verse or am I mandala effecting us
strong forum
It's the bandwagon effect
Just because alot of people use it doesn't mean it's the play
pallid quiver
What? All rank 100 and above I've seen on rio has gone haste verse or am I manda...
Just because they're gearing haste/vers doesn't even mean it's the best or optimal. They might even just be gearing it because that's what they got
jagged granite
No I hear you
What about raids then, more magical non parry stuff
Wouöd be versa slightly ontop?
strong forum
In raids stats matter even less
jagged granite
Alright lol
strong forum
Cuz you got 4/5 healers and beyond predictable mechanics with no rng
You just make a plan and are done
pallid quiver
There's a general sentiment that vers is a more defensive stat among high key pushers, because it's one of the better stats for DPS and Healers to avoid one-shots, but it's not really as much of a factor for tanks
round pendant
I quit a SV because this hunter died on every boss and we wiped a couple times on skarmorak and he didn't press any CDs
after I told him to use them
Maybe I'm spoiled cause the only dps I've played (this season) is DK but idk how people die to literally every mechanic every time
pallid quiver
In the end, it doesn't really matter, since the single largest portion of your mitigation kit comes from your buttons
strong forum
It's pretty simple when it comes to pugging keys rn
ionic fern
Dk and ret pally kinda tanky tho.
pallid quiver
Dk and ret pally kinda tanky tho.
Yeah, unlike Mages smh
strong forum
Below +9s you're not gonna see the really good players anymore because, well we're doing +9/10s
pallid quiver
They only have, like, 2 real defensives, right? Right?
jagged granite
Cuz you got 4/5 healers and beyond predictable mechanics with no rng
Yeah true, thanks alot for your input guys I appreciate it heaps.
While we're at it, bleeds in m+ am I right? Can you parry the application in i.e Siege?
pallid quiver
Depends per ability
Like, DF RLP, you were able to parry 2nd boss bleed (until fixed iirc) to get less stacks
jagged granite
Oh really, thats cool.
strong forum
There's barely any bleeds in keys
Or debuffs for tanks
Like tanks are really easy to tank rn ino
Keys*
Are really easy to tank
jagged granite
Siege trash from start to 2nd slaps on 10s
strong forum
There's basically no scary mobs at all
pallid quiver
I'm pretty sure there's more bleeds and the like on raid trash atm than all of M+
jagged granite
I even went BSV to survive that shit
toxic pewter
ya these dungeons are not that difficult mechanics wise
jagged granite
Did pull like 4 of em tho tbf
strong forum
Siege trash from start to 2nd slaps on 10s
Can't say I've had that experience
pallid quiver
The only thing that's remotely scary to me is the last packs of SV, because it is fucking impossible to have people let me group both packs together before last boss
Everything else is 100% manageable if you don't make mistakes.
round pendant
The siege trash bleeds can hurt
jagged granite
Maybe my groups didn't stun em or smtng, because my gear Is sufficient and I doubt I am doing to much wrong, except prioritising verse..
round pendant
what's it called
jagged granite
Singing steel or dancing steel or smtng
solid sun
Siege cutthroat curse can get real scary
pallid quiver
I am also scared of the first mobs leading into the maze in mists, because I got hit by their cleaves that they use on the NPCs in the little cinematic bit once and it fucking slew me
jagged granite
Shieeet!
pallid quiver
but that's not supposed to happen so i'm just scared of bugs
jagged granite
Can't say I've had that experience
I mean I am referring to the bleeds solely tbf
unreal abyss
what kind of shield block uptime should I aim for in dungeons? 100% isnt possible, right?
round pendant
100% in combat
solid sun
Spell reflecting tentacles on the last boss of GB is pretty sweet
jagged granite
what kind of shield block uptime should I aim for in dungeons? 100% isnt possibl...
It is in combat
pallid quiver
100% is actually possible while playing HR, but what's most important is 100% effective uptime
jagged pier
what kind of shield block uptime should I aim for in dungeons? 100% isnt possibl...
it kinda is
tropic tangle
feeling the same on early siege trash, but you should have plenty of tools between demo / sw to mitigate
pallid quiver
The only thing that'll make you not have 100% is not having something to hit
jagged granite
feeling the same on early siege trash, but you should have plenty of tools betwe...
Yeah I mean I've tried it and had better results then the first few go's but definitly hurts a bunch
astral crystal
what kind of shield block uptime should I aim for in dungeons? 100% isnt possibl...
it is absolutely possible
tropic tangle
to where it feels noticeable if I'm not proactive on those
pallid quiver
I literally haven't even entered Siege in M+ yet
haven't gotten a key for it until this most recent key I got
jagged granite
I think the reason I brought it up was more to discuss it and hear other peoples experiences
solid sun
Siege sucks
tropic tangle
it does
jagged granite
I literally haven't even entered Siege in M+ yet
I got serious siege ptsd from Bfa..
tender reef
I think dawnbreaker is my fav dungeon
tropic tangle
siege / CoT so far feel bad, haven't pulled a stonevault yet
solid sun
GB and the earthen lava dungeon are bangers
tropic tangle
grim batol feels ok until last boss
jagged granite
Cot is fine after tje nerf to splice tbh
pallid quiver
I wouldn't mind Dawnbreaker if people didn't do their absolute best to brick that key
jagged granite
I figured out on Queen heroic yday that you can reflect the beam on the platform transition, which does a fk ton of dmg!
solid sun
grim batol feels ok until last boss
Are you using spell reflect to clear tentacles? Makes me feel like a real helper harry in there
tender reef
How to do that rhino
tropic tangle
I...did not know that was a thing
jagged granite
The purple one thats stationary
solid sun
You just hit spell reflect and walk through them
jagged granite
Are you using spell reflect to clear tentacles? Makes me feel like a real helper...
Thats huge! Thanks.
solid sun
As long as your buff is active it clears them
pallid quiver
I figured out on Queen heroic yday that you can reflect the beam on the platform...
I don't think that's listed on the reflect sheet; do you have a log for that so we can send to Sense for verification?
jagged granite
Wait more than one?!
solid sun
Yeah I usually get 3-5 depending on how they’re spread
jagged granite
Thats insane.
Yeha let me check the log
Honestly didnt check the log, it did show up on details tho.
But lemme check
jagged pier
yes
molten gorge
thanks
jagged granite
I don't think that's listed on the reflect sheet; do you have a log for that so ...
Didnt show up a damage in the logs sadly, but It did atleast bounce the dmg off me
I am not great at logs however, I'll link it.
toxic pewter
may be a deflect then not a reflect
pallid quiver
You have to look at damage taken on the mob
jagged granite
Yeah, but It showed up as damage on details thats why
pallid quiver
It's processed as damage done to itself
jagged granite
Ok thanks
pallid quiver
yup, it hit itself
@shut summit If you get a chance, it doesn't look like Expulsion Beam's on the reflect sheet. Above shows the Expeller hitting itself with it
jagged granite
It was super hard to look on the phone for me! Thanks Luerce.
pallid quiver
It's funny, since I just explained how to look at reflect damage to one of my friends after we finished on raid today, and he was wondering why the poison bolts from Court weren't showing
jagged granite
Yeah that makes sence!
Haha, I've been thinking about that to actually!
I do have something that I've noticed about spellreflect this expansion, not sure if its a thing or I've just not paid attention but it seems alot of spells (splice in cot for example) does way less dmg to the boss than to players?
round pendant
Can you only spell reflect 1 tentacle on Erudax?
trim condor
haven't gotten a key for it until this most recent key I got
Lucky you, I had mist +2, nw +5, siege +8, brick to 7, then brick reroll to 6nw, brick to 5+ scithe, got +8 boralus, brick to +7 dawnbreaker And got +9 boralus. I guess I will reroll pirate now
pallid quiver
I just kept getting sent to Grim Batol
Have yet to get a single piece of loot from GB, either
and people kept:
- Pulling the entire instance
- Get knocked off by the dragon
- Getting murdered by trash
- Getting murdered by bosses, especially last boss
I think I've timed one GB
trim condor
I have kinda okish experience in GB, main blockers Are people getting one shot on Dragon boss
solid sun
Can you only spell reflect 1 tentacle on Erudax?
Can do multiple
round pendant
That's weird
tropic tangle
my exp overall has been very frustrating, pulled an 8 dawn and later an 8 arakara, so 2 chest potential
and just keep getting pug clownery
tender reef
and people kept:
- Pulling the entire instance
- Get knocked off by the dragon
-...
Very same people tend to get the loot lol
Pugs are horrid, it's really nice when you have a good run though
tropic tangle
flying back in an chain dying to trash when we've slow wiped on dawnbreaker
taking it upon themselves to do extra trash pull in arakara constantly
tender reef
When they tell you pull more, you say no and then they pull and wipe and leave grp. Worst
pallid quiver
Pugs are horrid, it's really nice when you have a good run though
the pugs have been the better people on average
It's the friends I run with smh
tender reef
Second worse is doing boss wrong blaming everybody else and leave
jagged granite
It's the friends I run with smh
Haha same!! 🤣🤣🤣
tropic tangle
then constantly fucking up last boss of arakara until timer is expired, then we do it flawlessly
so tilting
of course they were rewarded with a sacbrood for their trouble
tender reef
Only been once arakara the slime boss is way harder than the last
solid sun
My experience in pugs has been either someone leaves after sometimes even just a single death or a group wipe or just toxic chatters
round pendant
I think Erudax is such a bad boss design
pallid quiver
I'm still mad about one time of City of Echoes last boss, when I leaped into a puddle,
tender reef
Same for me at 🦏
pallid quiver
And the slime spawned on the opposite side of the arena, outside of storm bolt range
so i couldn't break root since avatar was on CD
trim condor
Second worse is doing boss wrong blaming everybody else and leave
Classic, shaman screwed mechanic on first boss, I wrote if we can do last boss if people Are failing first easy one and shaman replied ,,I dont think So,, . Lol
tender reef
Xd
solid sun
I finally hit KSM last night but it was a turbulent journey to say the least
tender reef
Yeah idk not good 😅😅 maybe I shouldn't have spammed necrotic yesterday
pallid quiver
I only have like 1100 IO since I keep bouncing between Mists, GB, and Echoes iirc
trim condor
I finally hit KSM last night but it was a turbulent journey to say the least
Same for me. But funny is, keys above 8 were mostly fine, but below, it was horrible, like I was asking my self if I want to play anymore
solid sun
Started my Sunday morning off being told to kms because I wanted to go down the lower part of the siege entry instead of running across the upper portion
So yeah I feel that @trim condor
pallid quiver
Biggest danger zone is probably 5-7 or so, since that's where a lot of players get hard stuck, and 7s in particular are scare since they still drop Heroic gear, so you have more people trying those, even if it's past them
trim condor
Started my Sunday morning off being told to kms because I wanted to go down the ...
Yeah love these people. They Are playing dps that can't kick, cc or avoid things, but they Are super smart about tank route
I didnt have this experience in TWW, but I did in DF S3 when pushing
jagged pier
i love using thunderstorm and cap totem to stop multiple casts at once
then being told i do no intuprts
echo grail
Hey yall, just leveled a prot warrior cause it's the tank spec I want to play. Can anyone recommend a guide that isn't wowhead?
jagged pier
icy veins
devout star
echo grail
jagged pier
its a different guide wirtten by a different person
whats wrong with icy veins?
on that point whats wrong with wowhead guides
solid sun
If you don’t want wowhead or icy veins I’d assume you could try echo? But there was drama they just lifted off wowhead
Or maybe a YouTube video
pallid quiver
Wowhead actually may not be available in their region
tender reef
Yeah love these people. They Are playing dps that can't kick, cc or avoid things...
THIS OMG
pallid quiver
as a non-shitpost reason
jagged pier
If you don’t want wowhead or icy veins I’d assume you could try echo? But there ...
they did lift and shift wowhead guides yes
echo grail
Everything wowhead now is made for clicks
molten gorge
on maxroll? they can't have this tier at least, cause there's differences
pallid quiver
The guides proper are still accurate, though
jagged pier
on maxroll? they can't have this tier at least, cause there's differences
very slight that was changed from the original post
pallid quiver
I can understand not wanting to support the site overall if you have issue with that, but you can go to IV instead
tender reef
I can tell that much
dull shoal
Is there a prot sim? got madness of the betrayer from timewalking cache and have no idea if its rly usable
molten gorge
very slight that was changed from the original post
I mean, that doesn't prove they copy pasted tho? every guide should hopefully say the same thing regardless of site (assuming there's one correct answer)
I'm not saying they didn't btw
jagged pier
Everything wowhead now is made for clicks
not everything, class guides are not well ours isnt at least
molten gorge
just saying that isn't proof
pallid quiver
I can tell that much
I don't think someone named "Kenny_BDK" knows much about BDK, but who am I to judge smh
Like, what are you, a BDK main?
solid sun
just saying that isn't proof
There were a lot of posts on twitter where people were comparing paragraphs from wowhead to the echo stuff
molten gorge
fair enough
pallid quiver
Is there a prot sim? got madness of the betrayer from timewalking cache and have...
Sims are for DPS and active on Raidbots and the like
molten gorge
just playing devil's advocate
jagged pier
I mean, that doesn't prove they copy pasted tho? every guide should hopefully sa...
nah it was same wording the rotation thing espeically for frost dk was lifted because they had to same querk where there was 2 of a spell in the rotation guide, thats not on icy veins because its a specfic thing for wowhead and they way the tables work etc
tender reef
And mandle who wrote the wowhead BDK guide is very on point on what he does, bro is not ducking around
molten gorge
Icy Veins always makes me laugh when it comes up, cause I remember when Icy Veins was a total meme
tender reef
Slander and lies
molten gorge
(I am old)
jagged pier
Icy Veins always makes me laugh when it comes up, cause I remember when Icy Vein...
again is was memes for certain specs it all depends on the writer u have
molten gorge
Ya pretty much
burnt heart
Coming back to the game Quazil's videos have helped more than anything else
molten gorge
the guide is only as good as the author
tender reef
Gaming journalism as a whole is a meme
molten gorge
loads of theorycrafters over the years have been utter dogshit at the game as well
but they know what they're talking about
even if they can't do it
pallid quiver
Coming back to the game Quazil's videos have helped more than anything else
Honestly, I really do appreciate just how many resources are out there to try and get people into playing the game at a decent level
tender reef
Coaches don't need to play better, just know 
pallid quiver
ha ha, that's me
tender reef
(I am old)
My age is.. nose hairs are starting to get annoying
Pulling them out hurts 🤕
molten gorge
tender reef
But back to business can a fury warrior also spell reflect the tentacles ? Should work no
strong forum
Everything wowhead now is made for clicks
Alot of the individual articles are more that yes, but how do you clickbait a guide?
echo grail
I'll check wowhead guide then, been let down by some other classes guides.
molten gorge
Alot of the individual articles are more that yes, but how do you clickbait a gu...
"You wont BELIEVE this one INSANE trinket for [insert class name]"
strong forum
"you won't believe this secret tech!?"
tender reef
Th BDK guide is top notch 👍
tender reef
Prot I don't like that much but no hate
molten gorge
"you won't believe this secret tech!?"
I hate youtube
echo grail
Boss casted targeted spell can be spell reflected?
strong forum
Depends on the cast
jagged pier
depends if it can or not check the sheet in the pins
echo grail
Oh shit there's an actual list? Pog
jagged pier
I hate youtube
what yah mean i love ppl putting out tier lists when they play all the classes wrong its great content
molten gorge
there's some seriously HUGE offenders of that garbage click bait shit in the wow community
someone I know made this when SoD dropped
too real
every thumbnail on your YT feed
exactly that
Classic definitely worse for it than retail tho
molten gorge
it's depressing that it works
molten gorge
Ofcourse, doesn't make it any less cringe
tender reef
But the click bait thumbnail doesn't show you if content is good or not
molten gorge
then you click the thumbnail, it's a 10minute video to maximise revenue for what could have been a 30second clip
tender reef
I got a question most of the time I don't have rage left over for revenge after ignore pain and shield block and then CD on thunderclap, what do I do wrong ?
And when I do I got too much to spend it all in my gcd windows
Kinda shucks
I use shieldcharge and the scream or avatar for rage supply
But doesn't work all the time
When I jump away and charge dps are gonna cry like lil children that they can't blindly spam their aoe rota
Oh yeah and I think I read alot of woehead can't really say I see lots of click bait
strong forum
I got a question most of the time I don't have rage left over for revenge after ...
Shouldn't have pressed ignore pain
Nothing kills you more than having no button available
tender reef
But without IP and SB up I take waaaay too much dmg
I try to have both up all the timr
Is that wrong ?
strong forum
What's better, unable to press a button because you pressed ignore pain instead of 2x revenge to get a shield slam reset
Or getting 1 singular 600k half absorb
You gotta keep the rotation flowing
When you can't press shield slam, that's when you die
Cuz your rotation stagnates, which means no rage generation
echo grail
Gotta be alive to use rotation 
toxic pewter
what guys
tender reef
Skillcapped do that no?
molten gorge
hard to say what's wrong with a log ig
echo grail
Oh. Shield slam question. Sometimes it lights up like I goy a reset but SS is still on full CD
toxic pewter
O_O you are getting advice right now for free..
tender reef
Oh yeah no is great thanks don't take it like that
toxic pewter
best prot warr advice in the world in here
strong forum
Oh. Shield slam question. Sometimes it lights up like I goy a reset but SS is st...
Cuz you got a burst of power proc
tender reef
Right now I play around buffs bring up all the time
strong forum
Which means your next 2 shield slams dont incur a cooldown
tender reef
Being* IP and sb
pastel remnant
how prot warrior perform in raid? want to go raid with a friend and hes looking for a tank .
tender reef
Nobody cares for raid
molten gorge
seemed fine to me
strong forum
Being* IP and sb
Your goal is to generate and spend as much rage as possible without overcapping rage, therefor you ideally only send ignore pain when at 60-80 rage
tender reef
Ahh
strong forum
You don't "maintain" IP
strong forum
Its something that gets maintained as a byproduct of doing your optimal rotation
echo grail
📓
tender reef
Lol nah don't even know how to explain it
molten gorge
I'm expecting you're pressing something wrong ya, cause I feel like the times where I stagnate like you're saying are usually I fucked up and panicked in some way
strong forum
Sure
molten gorge
when Avatar is up, you are spamming it often ya
tender reef
More to not die
strong forum
Your goal is to dump excess rage
pastel remnant
are we switching stance are always in defensive stance now?
molten gorge
how are you nearly dying?
tender reef
I'm always nearly dying lol
strong forum
I'm like 70% of the time in d-stance
tender reef
The ise healers are dirt
molten gorge
then something is wrong
strong forum
But I'm barely ever in danger
molten gorge
this ^
strong forum
Keys do like 0 tank dmg
molten gorge
if I'm in danger I fucked up
(which is either, I let mobs hit my back, or I didn't CD or something)
tender reef
I was on around 10% for 30 then started to jump away and kite use CDs etc. Then dps flamed me to stop running around
strong forum
Daheck
molten gorge
what level key?
strong forum
You're doing some serious mistakes if that's the case
molten gorge
I mean even just Victory Rush heals a lot when you oh shit
tender reef
6-7 don't remember lol
tender reef
Then we wiped second boss 2 timrs
strong forum
Only time I had to kite is when I have 13 stacks of the debuff in stonevault that makes you take 10% increased dmg taken per stack
molten gorge
(I had this happen mid pull )
tender reef
Nah healer was doing nothing lol
strong forum
In +10, outside of that you should be neigh immortal
molten gorge
"woah woah, why am I dying, wait I can't press shield block?? my shield is broke guys" good times
tender reef
But yeah no sorry that has nothing to do with me having IP up Always
molten gorge
repair bot down to fix and we good
strong forum
Ye there's more going on there
tender reef
"woah woah, why am I dying, wait I can't press shield block?? my shield is broke...
I had thatv2 in biss fights lol
strong forum
It's not just an IP issue
molten gorge
need some logs or something
tender reef
I make you some today
molten gorge
I don't even think I use my CDs anywhere near enough and I don't feel like i'm dying super often
defensive CDs*
toxic pewter
the ironic thing is the more people focus on ip for defensiveness, the less tanky they are..
tender reef
Hehe
strong forum
That maybe clears up a thing or 2
strong forum
Or raises more specifc questions
toxic pewter
you do not want to improve tbh
molten gorge
the ironic thing is the more people focus on ip for defensiveness, the less tank...
mmm it's more for me that like, I'm being stupid and holding Shield Wall, Spell Block etc for when I'm in trouble
toxic pewter
cant tell by your tone
molten gorge
which means I hardly use them
strong forum
Rotate all cds
molten gorge
ya
strong forum
Including last stand
molten gorge
I should just be sending
strong forum
Sw is 40-50sec cd
molten gorge
aye legit
strong forum
Use it on pull
molten gorge
I need to be using it WAY more
strong forum
Use last stand to stabilise after you've been dicked by a large hit
Same with IV, nigh on cd
molten gorge
I'm new to tanking completely this expansion so, trying not to be too hard on myself about it cause it's all new, but I know I'm doing it wrong defensively
strong forum
Ye takes some practice
molten gorge
for sure, dps wise I seem to be okay
strong forum
You ain't playing the game until you're comfortable
molten gorge
fr
strong forum
Until that point you're just too worried about yourself
So you're just riding blind most of the time
echo grail
There's one talent, it's a choice node. Gives haste based on how many people are nearby or shield slam/block interaction. How much do they vary the rotation?
soft aspen
do you guys also just get absolutely murdered in grim batol
lusty grotto
There's one talent, it's a choice node. Gives haste based on how many people are...
you should play the the block version
strong forum
There's one talent, it's a choice node. Gives haste based on how many people are...
0
Rotation doesn't change based on which talents you take
Your ultimate goal is to hammer shield slam as often as possible
jagged pier
do you guys also just get absolutely murdered in grim batol
nope
strong forum
do you guys also just get absolutely murdered in grim batol
Hasn't been my experience no
molten gorge
kite the ogres in Grim Batol
lusty grotto
by what
molten gorge
🤝
strong forum
It was more my group that got fucked
toxic pewter
the trash in grim batol do a lot of dam, a good healer goes a long way in there. the final boss also hurts a lot does the tank slam need a defensive for it
soft aspen
well first of all
molten gorge
or stun them
strong forum
I was hard chillin in my +9
soft aspen
the affixes hit the ogres
timid thicket
is it worth to pick up Wrecking throw for silken court? For the intermissions
molten gorge
they get a stack
echo grail
Thank you friends
soft aspen
i should mention that
shrewd ore
Only the enrage dudes blast tanks, rest is fine
strong forum
is it worth to pick up Wrecking throw for silken court? For the intermissions
Yeah
Free dmg
soft aspen
i was mainly being destroyed by the warlock guys after big boss
timid thicket
What do I drop for wreckign throw
lusty grotto
slam spell block
strong forum
You can drop stuff like overwhelming rage
toxic pewter
i was mainly being destroyed by the warlock guys after big boss
thats basically a healer issue i think they put a heal absorb on the party or some crap
molten gorge
the warlocksa re the ogres with the healing debuff ya?
shrewd ore
i was mainly being destroyed by the warlock guys after big boss
that's not the warlocks, there's enrage dudes in the packs there
strong forum
There's a healing debuff?
shrewd ore
that do a lot of dmg
molten gorge
they don't do anything providing you don't pull them with another scary mob
toxic pewter
in grim batol there is on some trash yea
strong forum
Huh
toxic pewter
dont know exact mob that does it tho
strong forum
We just killed things so idk
toxic pewter
its sort of annoying yeah
molten gorge
ya there's a healing debuff
strong forum
I reflected some hits and rest we just killed idk
molten gorge
an absorb
lusty grotto
just stun the ragers
molten gorge
I think
strong forum
Solution to problem = just have more dmg
toxic pewter
are the ragers the ones that melee hard and fast
lusty grotto
and slam spell block, thats it
strong forum
soft aspen
got another question to ask, do you guys like to BL on the first pull in batol with dragon and all the adds ?
molten gorge
are the ragers the ones that melee hard and fast
ye
toxic pewter
yeah those dudes can actually hurt if u got 2 of em on u
lusty grotto
lusting first pull is better for lust timings yes
cosmic canyon
It's a curse that can be removed. No?
toxic pewter
how many add packs do u pull with the first dragon if u lust
tender reef
Your ultimate goal is to hammer shield slam as often as possible
Not thunderclap ?
molten gorge
Not thunderclap ?
shield slam
lusty grotto
but big IF
toxic pewter
ok
soft aspen
the dragon, the 2 in front, and the guys walking because its aids to pll more cause of dragon los
soft aspen
ahhh i see what ur getting at
lusty grotto
eat it with back to the side
toxic pewter
not bad idea
lusty grotto
ez
soft aspen
u saying to get the first los out of the way then pull all the first hallway and then lust or what
lusty grotto
yup
solid sun
I was on my 4th Grim Batol before I realized that the second boss walks super slow while carrying the mace 🙃
tender reef
toxic pewter
is that the one that chases u
soft aspen
dont even know if there are any los spots down the hallway though
tender reef
How u not die ?
tender reef
He means th second one
soft aspen
2nd one
lusty grotto
what 2nd one
tender reef
Next to first bridge
soft aspen
u can sk ip that one
lusty grotto
lol what
solid sun
How u not die ?
Fire time I died and figured I just flubbed mechanically. Second time I lived. Third time I died but my internet hiccuped so I assumed I missed a spell or smth and then I was informed. Fourth time I kited
soft aspen
go behind the banner
tender reef
But you can also do it and skip later
Lel rhino did it take 4 different keys for that
molten gorge
I don't even think the dragon is worth skipping before last boss tbh
soft aspen
so would u guys say that baotl is the hardest dungeon for prot
due to the amount of magic damage
solid sun
Lel rhino did it take 4 different keys for that <:keks:936231610850897992>
Yeh but we timed each key so we Gucci
lusty grotto
you only pull 2 dragons (well 3 but it dies with your own dragons) in GT
molten gorge
you don't even need to pull 2
lusty grotto
if youre pulling additionals idk what to tell you, that route is weird
molten gorge
there's some you can manually spawn
if you run over them
in the first bit with the flying dragons
tender reef
Haha not this one
jagged pier
big pull that
molten gorge
tender reef
Theres 2 more
molten gorge
3 and 4 are here
soft aspen
with the dragon dont you kill the adds in front of the boss ?
molten gorge
the unmarked
soft aspen
and then the huge pack that overlaps
lusty grotto
i know they are
tender reef
There should be even another one I think
molten gorge
for the count
tender reef
Easy % skip the ogres
molten gorge
ig?
jagged pier
u dont need the count
lusty grotto
not needed
molten gorge
it's not hard to understand lads
i'm not saying I do it
but I get what they're saying
jagged pier
sure but why like all the skippable packs are in the middle
tender reef
jagged pier
and they are all easy
molten gorge
tender reef
The ogres not
lusty grotto
the ogres are easy
molten gorge
i'd say you could in theory do one of those spawn ones
with one of the packs you've nuked
instead of doing the dragon at the end
tender reef
For you mqybe
molten gorge
and maybe that'd be more efficient
tender reef
Big guy
tender reef
Tell that to the team lol
unreal gazelle
what addons do you think are req for M+
lusty grotto
why you have 3 stuns
unreal gazelle
are you running anything for counts
lusty grotto
the fuck does the team have to do with stunning
echo grail
Why is spear taken over roar? Kiting?
lusty grotto
more damage
unreal gazelle
Why is spear taken over roar? Kiting?
crit favors prot
lusty grotto
as thane
soft aspen
whats the addon that shows u the count updating as ur fighting the pack
molten gorge
Tell that to the team lol
the ogres you can stun the attack speed buff one and you're basically safe
echo grail
Ah
molten gorge
and imo don't pull the locks with the big frontal casters
lusty grotto
whats the addon that shows u the count updating as ur fighting the pack
warp deplete
soft aspen
ty
solid sun
I haven’t really been skipping anything
unreal gazelle
is anyone running colossus top 50 are all thane
lapis burrow
does someone know what Meeres/Naowh is using to display the co-tank frame? Is it a weakaura?
lusty grotto
is anyone running colossus top 50 are all thane
we will when we get gear
echo grail
There's a site that lists pick rate for all hero talents and some are under 10%
solid sun
Psh I wish I could deplete a key
lusty grotto
does someone know what Meeres/Naowh is using to display the co-tank frame? Is it...
yes
molten gorge
hahaha
solid sun
Then I’d know how you mortals live
molten gorge
lusty grotto
no, its premium, dont ask for freebees
lapis burrow
ah alright
unreal gazelle
we will when we get gear
where do you think that breakpoint is? its so much more fun and i can hit a 1 mill dps at times i find thane so boring
solid sun
What’s your favorite dungeon so far
echo grail
where do you think that breakpoint is? its so much more fun and i can hit a 1 mi...
What? Mountain thane is so much fun
lusty grotto
just send it as colossus
unreal gazelle
dps is 1/3
lusty grotto
people are allowed to like other things
molten gorge
incorrect
lusty grotto
just send it Gloom, if you feel like you can survive with current gear, youll be fine
molten gorge
Collosus is a channel no? sounds garbage
jagged pier
its hasted
unreal gazelle
it is deff less surv but im not sure where its lacking. is it just in rage generation?
molten gorge
still cringe
solid sun
Colossus is for people who needs jacked up trucks but don’t go off-roading
lusty grotto
im looking forward to using it in vault keys
unreal gazelle
Colossus is for people who needs jacked up trucks but don’t go off-roading
i accept that
lusty grotto
but dont plan to as of yet, need more gear still
neon elk
Also in most keys rn dmg isnt issue
lusty grotto
i still have like 6 champion items
neon elk
I mean, dmg done .
lusty grotto
:\
unreal gazelle
im sitting at 606 ilvl atm would you run pheremone secreter without raid trinks? its not showing on bloodmallet
i have several options
lusty grotto
whatever sims best
lusty grotto
LOL
unreal gazelle
i do not have a meat hook
lusty grotto
solid sun
Has anyone tried killing the portal dudes in wake after their nerf and boosted mob count
solid sun
Prior to the nerf their aoe killed everyone who wasn’t me
lusty grotto
yes
solid sun
Just curious how much of an effect it had
jagged pier
i think that will still be the case on fort
solid sun
Gotcha
lusty grotto
comfy pulls now but i dont know if i wanna pull them outright anyway
only if we're somehow missing %
solid sun
How have y’all been handling the big beetle dorks in arakara
Have you found a route that avoids most?
The ones that have the aura that makes their friends take less damage
unreal gazelle
is there any addon for % or pathing that is helpful or you all feel is needed?
sweet summit
mdt is all you need really
jagged pier
w key is all u need
solid sun
I’ve def been giving my w key a workout
neon elk
If ur runing a W route just chceck before in mdt that its actualy enough . I did my forst nw this season and was kinda surprised that i missed like 12%
lusty grotto
https://threechest.io?mdt=!vwvtpUjmq0Fm9EL9ymyU3l9cALONTujXurxuyvcSB6)(AJNjXEwiPvbfW2dZ7nV5dSs7pSTZURZ22HJVAB)W5E12i)QW2ECOVF4WY48FSnqyJLHJ2wO)dT4TUlx7kSTV)ZXfxWdhwoF2DA(LLXrBJiymUt7s3O7D3i6tC3VTC6xUPtF)4vBJsho4IB0DyEy6K3BEU8M3rx8p2it(B1fnqKnnk)v4EH)kCx7V83NdwSV5ZHN(8XZb)CFBpdomnoD22(L((crFFIBrRQW3wAYbTa3xJGwICSkhCnAwzo4f5GhGUUp59IwvtylqqKsefjGsHuX0cf9oriAQ2pClsPeAffwskUKL5ayqdQPZfeLKeLGCjGuqdpM7mrbxNYGs0AMoQY1paTsXJQqCfmSmyOjl2BQZxkfS1s2AyZcOSKwXDn(M1ukFv5wLimwmjKp4FfdVhuzglomPbfLOlYdoY56TDwG0rvp(cQNjO1ymIQLGbJKTg2GDbnqZPb1THEqKNNV5xwuEZ)SYez1JZv13kmIEWK0EMiEkwMHq18FmyYx6fzxfw6B(uP)9znrKmjDkjSPAJrmPStZQBG9gQGwu(Srbyrt9ELoudl5j0mAmfqJPGcuxankmGevgaqPbqTUKLOXcjqWKCQqcqxtZ9KBpLh(xMthyMbjwnYljMYwXP(oo8gfSPfYBA9rmBDjBD1J)OfyEY5SHyk2qmLCVKm2ae(1o19B)xHVS(n4zR9Va
jesus christ they need to fix that bigass url
anyway you can sub in one pack with one gatecrasher
like pull 5 maybe
gritty eagle
spell reflect works on tentacles in gb? whaat
green bronze
spell reflect works on tentacles in gb? whaat
yes, you can clear 1 tentacle each cast)
green bronze
more than one; it doesn't consume
oh really, i always cleared only 1 cause assumed it won't work on 2 lol) really a gamechanger
echo grail
Just more reason to bring a (fury) warrior
inland raft
2 furys and prot, clear the whole room, ez
tender reef
2 prots and 2 fury and 1 arms you mean
steady lantern
Hey I just got Throngus's Finger, is it good for M+ tanking for warriors? https://www.wowhead.com/item=56449/thronguss-finger
stuck basin
what do you think about the binding of bindings embellish ring?
tender reef
All trinkets bad find one you like
I have it it's the dmg one right
I want 2
Waist or shield depends on what drops first then the othet
lusty grotto
Hey I just got Throngus's Finger, is it good for M+ tanking for warriors? https:...
meh
lusty grotto
what do you think about the binding of bindings embellish ring?
meh
steady lantern
ok thanks
solid sun
Do you think heroic broodtwister is easier for a pug raid or heroic assassin princess
toxic pewter
imo personally brood is easier
lusty grotto
yeah hard to say
for some groups nexus princess is easier
for other groups broodtwister is easier
both are different in terms of what is needed to be done so it really depends on who youre pugging with
toxic pewter
does Rasha'nan auto aggro/go into combat when she lands in dawnbreaker
lusty grotto
uhh
toxic pewter
group just tried telling me she does
lusty grotto
why do you ask? you need to kick her
so even if she doesnt you cant just sit around
toxic pewter
cuz I think a dude pulled the boss but they claimed the boss auto aggros
lusty grotto
cast goes off = she goes inmune = wipe
toxic pewter
yah I know I have to be at the boss or its a wipe
but like I swear someone else pulled her
.. I think
urban bane
she does not when she first lands in dawnbreaker
solid sun
When she lands on the ship or when she lands on the ground
toxic pewter
on the ship
lusty grotto
oh
toxic pewter
like the start of the fight
solid sun
She will just chill on the boat if you don’t pull her pretty sure
pallid quiver
rash does not aggro, ye
lusty grotto
yeah she doesnt auto agro on the ship
hollow hill
Has anyone played around with the Silken Chain Weaver trinket? It seems like a nice little defensive bonus, kind of like a second mini ignore pain. I'm curious if the attack speed reduction works on raid/M+ bosses though https://www.wowhead.com/item=215172/silken-chain-weaver?bonus=657:11143:5865:10334
echo grail
Why don't we have those arathi bombs in raid?
toxic pewter
Has anyone played around with the Silken Chain Weaver trinket? It seems like a n...
I use hero track version of that and I enjoy having it, its a nice defensive every 1 min. solid in m+ packs if I say so
lusty grotto
its a decent trinket
but since you can only get so lucky to get a hero version, it will eventually fall behind
thats one of the best you can get through delves as a defensive option
if not the best
hollow hill
Yea, for sure. I got a champion version just now, obviously simmed way lower for dps but could be useful for a tough fight I thought if you're getting wrecked
earnest nymph
https://threechest.io?mdt=!vwvtpUjmq0Fm9EL9ymyU3l9cALONTujXurxuyvcSB6)(AJNjXEwiP...
thank you for this -- I remembered something like this existing last expansion and could not remember what the site was
toxic pewter
yeah I got lucky from a map and got hero track version of it
hollow hill
I got a hero track shadow binding ritual knife from a map, it seems decent?
toxic pewter
that trinket sims well afaik I just do not like how it lowers stats personally will never use it that's just me though
hollow hill
I've been using the ritual knive for a while and it feels like the stat reduction doesn't happen that often, maybe once every 90s on average?
jagged pier
.5 rppm
warm plinth
Jakey procs 10ppm in my ❤️
jagged pier
hollow hill
So once per 2 minutes?
warm plinth
Approximately, yes
lusty grotto
bad ppm
hollow hill
Neat, so even better than I thought. Thanks for the info
hollow hill
Eh, the debuff only lasts for 10s
warm plinth
Yeah it should be bad for that trinket
hollow hill
just have it proc when you aren't tanking, duh
lusty grotto
ah that makes sense
warm plinth
Ezpz
jagged pier
that literally makes 0 difference
the class will feel slow to play for 10 secs
thats it u wont notice anything else
lusty grotto
unless if youre in siege 🙂
warm plinth
My brain thought like in between m+ packs
lusty grotto
then your gcd will last for 2 days
jagged pier
someone said the otherday loosing the vers could cause u to instantly drop. u loose around 2% DR on the proc
it doees nothing
warm plinth
Do the guys who do the bleed show up in the same pulls as the cursed blade guys in siege
warm plinth
Ok I didn't think so but I have barely done alliance side
lusty grotto
all 3 are different packs
toxic pewter
what mob does bleed
lusty grotto
gutters = haste debuff
warm plinth
Riptide shredder
toxic pewter
ok thx
lusty grotto
shredders = bleed (non-dwarfable)
warm plinth
Is it hard hutting or
solid sun
That dumb curse in siege can surprise you
warm plinth
Hokay
lusty grotto
curseblades, sorry
warm plinth
But you can still sr the slash right
lusty grotto
or spell block
warm plinth
Hokay
lusty grotto
the only ones i detest are the gutters
shredders are close but holy fuck i hate haste debuffs
tribal wharf
beam damage dawn breaker starts as soon as she starts the cast?
instantly blasted for 5.5 million on 3
not enjoying this
echo grail
Shoulda spell reflected
tribal wharf
i literally wasnt even in it
warm plinth
the only ones i detest are the gutters
I hate that too. Especially trying to pick up that 10 pin spare and you think you got it til it drops in the gutter at the last second 😦
tribal wharf
it decided i was dead before i had a chance to do anything and wasnt even in the beam at all
lusty grotto
I hate that too. Especially trying to pick up that 10 pin spare and you think y...
get out
warm plinth
lusty grotto
<:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
pallid quiver
<:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
i need you to tank for my shaman, ghash
GB is too hard and overtuned, that's why a 605 bear can't live throngus on a... check notes +3
upper crow
i wasnt even in it
there's an initial hit before the beam on everyone. on the tank it hits way harder
pallid quiver
Yeah, it's the tank buster of the fight, so you want a defensive running every beam
tribal wharf
i love video games except for the part whre you die in 2 to 3 hits
seems to be a recurring theme in every game
tribal wharf
i guess thats what i must have been doing before that but i figured it said defensive due to the beams itself
lusty grotto
every. single. tank. buster. this. season. is. spell. blockable.
no spell block? wall
just use spell block
tribal wharf
like i say, im going to fail all these mechanics the hard way probably
rough crater
I have a wonky clip that has ruined my Siege runs twice.
Why does this happend?
smoky anvil
just use spell block
Listen chief, we’re all classic Andys in disguise as retail players. That’s too many button presses.
rough crater
thats not GB
that is very true, im still asleep
lusty grotto
Listen chief, we’re all classic Andys in disguise as retail players. That’s too ...
nah its yogi
vague abyss
can someone share a MDT route for Boralus? damn i hate this dungeon but i have to do it sooner than later
tribal wharf
there ARE infact too many keybinds for majority of specs
lusty grotto
I have a wonky clip that has ruined my Siege runs twice.
Why does this happend?
what am i looking at here
tribal wharf
fury maybe no
lusty grotto
yes
she does
that bug has been around since BFA
sidestep early
not late
or do like me and just run behind her
do it EARLY
not late
rough crater
0.5 sec into the cast i move, guess i premove a bit instead
tribal wharf
nah its yogi
i dont recall struggling on and failing +2's and +3's in the past
tribal wharf
sorry, seems like something changed
rough crater
i also tried that the next run. Stood increadebly close and she still trickshot 180 ppl behind
tribal wharf
but now that i know
snow furnace
hey all, I read wowhead / icy veins / maxroll guides for our bis / talents and it seems that maxroll has slightly different suggestions. For example in maxroll it has haste vers in our crafted gear but wowhead an icy veins suggests haste / crit. Which do you believe it's better?
lusty grotto
hey all, I read wowhead / icy veins / maxroll guides for our bis / talents and i...
our 2 guides
tribal wharf
maybe ill stand a chance next time
edgy bone
@lusty grotto are you encountering the situation where she uses gutshot even when you're only out of melee range for a split second
lusty grotto
no
edgy bone
Even when jumping down?
lusty grotto
just preposition
you shouldnt be using the cannon as a tank
you need to be square mid
rough crater
<#1266837564925673596>
i cant access the "The war within" link in prot-faq, what secrets is hiding in this link
edgy bone
Interesting
lusty grotto
that range cast cannot go off
tribal wharf
ya, siege is a nighmare key with pugs
lusty grotto
i cant access the "The war within" link in prot-faq, what secrets is hiding in t...
no idea
lusty tiger
What’s with yogis name
lusty grotto
idk man
lusty tiger
Yogi u do front end development?
tribal wharf
because for a while ppl come in with wax asking about it
and the shield react shield
kills the conversation because its not really relevant to anything else, bit of redudant question to answer saves ppl time
lusty tiger
What is yogi wax… do I want to know?
tribal wharf
character limit
edgy bone
Does that Sense guy stream?
lusty grotto
of course he does
edgy bone
YouTube videos as well?
lusty grotto
yes
edgy bone
I watch Yoda sometimes but
Hard to learn from him because he's always running with God tier dps
Can't tell if the route is good or if I'd need equivalent dps to do what he's doing
tribal wharf
i dunno, i don't imagine i will be playing wow as much as i did in the past
thats all, been there done that
edgy bone
i dunno, i don't imagine i will be playing wow as much as i did in the past
Chase that better life king, WOW is poison
tribal wharf
swap back to your old nickname
wish granted
lusty grotto
that works
tribal wharf
i dunno, even doom 1993 is more telegraphed than current wow
legit
i see a pinky, i know its a pinky, i see a baron, i know its a baron, i see a shotgun guy i know what he is, caco
serene wave
Hey guys, been away from the game for a while, came back and i am now 605 IL, what m+ would i be good to run to get some gear?
lusty grotto
any
serene wave
like 5-7s? or too low IL?
lusty grotto
you should be fine for any that you get invited to
serene wave
right
smoky anvil
Just press your buttons. You’ll be fine.
lusty grotto
the only limit is groups not inviting you in the queue
youll find out soon enough if your ilvl is too low for their perception
we cant really tell you what it is, cause it differs
smoky anvil
I’m 607 and got denied from a +3 last night. People are weird.
gritty eagle
it is what it is, ppl will always take highest io/ilvl even if way above whats required
lusty grotto
but honestly if you dont get invited to those, consider it a bullet dodged
whoever is declining week 1 based on IO is an idiot
unreal gazelle
606 clearing 5s and 6s but you got to play all CDs and DPS has to interupt. If everyone is peak they are smooth if anyone is dropping the ball they feel like you belong in M0s
umbral kernel
but honestly if you dont get invited to those, consider it a bullet dodged
yea this
smoky anvil
I did consider it a bullet dodged. They stayed in queue with “+3 THREADS TANK” and were there till I found a group. Realized the real bullet dodge was that the lead was Ragnaros.
umbral kernel
I swear some ppl create a group just to be carried
lusty grotto
I did consider it a bullet dodged. They stayed in queue with “+3 THREADS TANK” a...
dont
start with this please
rag players can be good
and can be bad
just like any other server
unreal gazelle
was it 2k IO to get the free tier?
gritty eagle
whoever is declining week 1 based on IO is an idiot
what do you mean? when you start doing 10+ or whatever i guess you want to see that the ppl you invite have done the dungeon at 8+ or something no?
umbral kernel
yea it is
gritty eagle
its not that weird to me
lusty grotto
what do you mean? when you start doing 10+ or whatever i guess you want to see t...
whos talking about 10
tribal wharf
okay i have more stupid questions about that mechanic i died to
gritty eagle
a for a 3 i agree, in that case you should take pretty much whatever
lusty grotto
#protection message this is the context
tribal wharf
because now that i've died to it in key and understand it bit more, it does additional damage ??
so it deals dmg to everyone around me? so i cant be near other players?
smoky anvil
It’s a tank chunk and an aoe
umbral kernel
what do you mean? when you start doing 10+ or whatever i guess you want to see t...
imo up to +5/6 you can take anybody if stuff is okay
smoky anvil
It’s not avoidable aoe dmg iirc.
umbral kernel
healer 590 in grim batol +6 maybe not tho
tribal wharf
right and the aoe is on me and it will kill any dps beside me essentially
smoky anvil
right and the aoe is on me and it will kill any dps beside me essentially
For the triple beam, right?
gritty eagle
@umbral kernel fair enough, i did my first keys at +4 and it was generally fine to start at that level
smoky anvil
I don’t think it’s targeted off you? I think it’s just aoe aoe.
upper crow
right and the aoe is on me and it will kill any dps beside me essentially
it hits everyone. and the tank harder
lusty grotto
its not an aoe yogi
just press spell block and move to dodge lines
he thinks its a pbaoe
tribal wharf
right, well it says it deal 5 millon and tha another 450k, so the 450k is just a healing thing
tribal wharf
theres alot of naunces like this, that get me killed
lusty grotto
read this
tribal wharf
and frustrated and not want to play
lusty grotto
"PRESS SPELL BLOCK, AND MOVE TO DODGE LINES"
thats it
end of story
no more analyzing
tribal wharf
i hear you, just there is like a millon naunces like this in keys
lusty grotto
theres not
tribal wharf
is frustrating
tribal wharf
okay you've said it
im just stating that i dont have the energy for it any more, may stop again
lusty grotto
ok
tribal wharf
im burned out, cooked, sorry man
gritty eagle
keep in mind, its the first week of m+, take it easy 😄
tribal wharf
legitamitely
you might think im stupid and i dont get it
and i do some dumb thing over and over and ya, and its not like i dont know im doing it
and then ill go get some sleep and try it again next day with information or trying to recall what went wrong the last time, and then ill do it right next time
example
wailed on him for 6.5 hours, went to sleep, come back beat him in 1.5 hours
legitimately one of hardest bosses faced in very long time.
split stratus
Is there any website/article that gathers all the starts/tips for M+ tanking ? Like what we used to have: tanknotes/mythictrap ? (I find that wowhead is basically a copy/paste of the IG dungeon guide)
latent hull
Method has decent dungeon walkthrough write ups on their site
lusty grotto
there was a person working on one a few seasons ago
but i dont know if they're still playing
your best bet is what that guy mentioned or to watch the Quazii video guides
other players have guides in youtube as well
and to look at Sense's sheet in #protection-faq
merry sluice
dw just pug and some garbage dps dying to every swirlie will tell you eveyr single tiny thing you do wrong
harsh trellis
I also tend to look for Quazii, and Buntens Pull counts on Keystone guru for pathing
blazing condor
tribal wharf
dw just pug and some garbage dps dying to every swirlie will tell you eveyr sing...
this is refered to as "your route sucks" in chat
harsh trellis
Tactyks is pretty good about explaining things when hes streaming also
tribal wharf
after key self implodes and ppl leave or timer is not met
merry sluice
this is refered to as "your route sucks" in chat
you mean me telling the ret paladin my route before key starts. watching him pull eveyr damn caster in dawnbringer till we're 30% over, then him syaing "Your route is weird, you need help, we're over %"
tribal wharf
ya, and its sort of this weird amalgamation of things in that general realm, that got me jaded and whatever with wow lol
CAN I GET THAT SACBROODD DUUUUDE ill pay u
toxic pewter
do you guys get the anvil warrior buff in stonevault and how many anvil locations are there
tribal wharf
anvil warrior buff?
harsh trellis
I didnt know about this anvil warrior buff
tribal wharf
this is first im hearing of this
toxic pewter
ok so may be worth goin to machinespeaker boss first
lusty grotto
yes its a versa buff
toxic pewter
well it only lasts 10 min actually right so dont matter
tribal wharf
interesting, i mean i do like versa
lusty grotto
around g28
toxic pewter
yeah gonna start getting it
harsh trellis
You get a buff from that?
lusty grotto
yes