protection

[plush tendon]

and then vault gives another next week

[quaint sinew]

How come i see some prot warriors doing thunderous roar, and some champion spear? Is it just personal preference, for m+

[plush tendon]

but IDK, I just sent

[plush tendon]

prob preference

I like spear

played DRoar for two years straight

and wanted something a little different now

[proper roost]

ye, but idk, don't think that's a big deal since you're probably not gonna run into a significant numbers wall for a bit

normally, anyway, normally for how most tiers go anyway

[quaint sinew]

Ya i been doin spear, i was thinking they were doing big pulls or something where the dot might be more dps

[proper roost]

Spear is good

Spear will do more dps in bigger pulls

[toxic pewter]

spear is good cuz it gives us 25% more crit dam

[solid cargo]

Phat thunda blasts

[quaint sinew]

Kk thanks guys

I appreciate the help

[soft tusk]

If we are going the Colossus build.. do we utilize Slam and/or Wirlwind?

[toxic pewter]

na

[untold hornet]

Anyone enjoying any specific embellishments? Recrafting my everforge defender today and just curious if anyone is using anything fun/enjoyable

[prime obsidian]

What’s the tech for cheesing last boss in ara Kara with leap?

[crimson furnace]

The pull has to happen, so u can counter leap it

So make sure u are far away so u have time to react

Bit of exercise, but it’s easy to learn

[prime obsidian]

Okay thanks I’ll try it out

[toxic pewter]

wait so how do u cheese the mechanic? just leap away as the pull occurrs?

[untold hornet]

Last second of the pull before it actually kills

Leap

[toxic pewter]

ok

it pulls in decently fast right

[untold hornet]

It’s a ramping speed

Last half a second, it’s pulling very fast

[toxic pewter]

yes

seems scary if i mess it up tbh lol

[untold hornet]

Make sure you don’t leap over slime puddles, the slime that roots you will be where the puddle is, not where you landed.

[prime obsidian]

Oh I’ve messed it up trying to figure it out but still live lol

[untold hornet]

Is anyone using the elemental focusing lens embellishment?

[glacial skiff]

I'm trying to figure out how to properly quantify colossus vs thane, but i just ran a key as colossus and demolish/revenge hit hard

pretty sure im doing almost 1/3 more damage

i think people are definitely sleeping on colossus's viability. Maybe thane will be more apparently tanky come key pushing time though.

[plush tendon]

Col is more dam, but rage economy has to be planned out

Thane is (alot) more rage and not as punishing

[coarse sparrow]

demolish is technically a defensive, I think that's kinda being ignored

[tribal wharf]

defensive by locking you into place for what is it, 3 seconds , so you get fire circle around you and die

great

[left basalt]

is there a spreadsheet of m+ must kicks somewhere? i see the spell reflect/block?

[tribal wharf]

or, best case, you hit the boss with 1 swing of demolish, wasting next 2

[glacial skiff]

I think it's nice that it provides a 10% DR, but i don't think people will really use it for that purpose

[tribal wharf]

kick anything that isnt whatever bolt

[manic charm]

Looking to get better at m+ keys, got my first 619 crest for crafted gear. What's the first piece I should do? Shield or Weapon? And which embellishments/enchants would you guys recommend?

[left ermine]

whatever is your worst right now. i did weapon, since i got a shield drop

[coarse sparrow]

seems like an easy fix, don't press it when swirlies are about to come out

[hollow hill]

Is duskthread lining the only good embellishment for prot or are any of the others decent?

[dark plover]

I crafted shield and 1h, with embellishment

Just send it, unless you are in a very high competitive top guild

[lilac bloom]

can i ask a question about heroic brood.. do you tank adds and boss together when u have the concusion?

how to handle the colosal spiders

i know i dont take that much damage when they dont bite or me having the concussion but what to do with this heavy hitting addds

[violet ginkgo]

tell your dps to kill it asap before it kills you.

[lilac bloom]

say for example my tank partner gets the debuff then i taunt boss but adds are nesxt to me.. but i have a few seconds left till i get the debuff myself what do i do? taunt hte add? or leave it alone?

[inland raft]

does mad queens mandate work on prot or is it damage reduced as a dps trinket?

[lofty warren]

Here is my pwar and his currency & i have 2 spark of omens. What/when should I use crafting for?

[manic charm]

everforged longsword a good weapon to be my 619 crafted?

[coarse lynx]

where do you get your second fractured spark this week? only gotten 1 of the 2

[lofty warren]

its from the weekly where you choose 1 out of 4 things to do

[coarse lynx]

i did that one, thats one of the two i got.

[lofty warren]

idk i guess ur behind forever and should delete ur charcter

[coarse lynx]

lol

well thanks for the help 🙂

[lofty warren]

#protection message any smarties with answer to this pls

[lusty grotto]

yo @south zealot ive seen you in general last night

"you guys are all wrong"

when they were saying "warriors should heal by shouting"

[soft aspen]

i heard around that higher keys prot warriors just get one shotted is this an issue or whats the deal

[lusty grotto]

but it was through my guild's stream, i cant see illidan general anymore 🙂

i heard water is fake

they must be telling the truth

[soft aspen]

im just askin

[coarse lynx]

Unlikely pWar is getting one shotted in a situation where any other tank would live.

[lusty grotto]

you never see water and ice in the same place, think about that

thats some black magic

also sometimes it just straight up vanishes

[soft aspen]

I'm just asking because I want to push for title this season

Just wanted to know how viable prot would be in very high keys

[lusty grotto]

well i think i think it's safe to say

that we get 1 shot, according to what you heard

so idk about that

[tribal wharf]

updated name

thought u had to pay to do this lmao

[lusty grotto]

discord wheres your character limit

[soft tusk]

We getting one shotted?

[lusty grotto]

yes, that guy heard it

[soft tusk]

Only boss that makes me have a heart attack is the first boss in City of Threads

Fuck that Subjugate

[lusty grotto]

but

but

[tribal wharf]

i propose when possible if we encounter the same question or argument 10 times a day, change server name to that

[lusty grotto]

that first boss is the best boss ever since it fucking janks ranged standing in africa

so its a good boss

[soft tusk]

"do I macro IP and all my abilities together?" Warrior Discord

[soft aspen]

well regarding the active mitigation

[south zealot]

lol

i remember

saying that

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[tribal wharf]

im done with hearing about IS DIZ GOOOUUD U GUIZ picture of wax trinket

is why lmao

[lusty grotto]

test

hmm

[tribal wharf]

it worked

[lusty grotto]

idk what hax yogi has

yours is clearly longer

[tribal wharf]

i am a master of the maximum character limit message

[proud dock]

i have loremaster but i cant find To KIll a Queen quest pick up anywhere. anyone else having a similar problem?

[lusty grotto]

little spidey

in weaver's area

[proud dock]

i did, no quest

[lusty grotto]

welp

[proud dock]

bug has no ques tto pick up, not on my qwuest log, dont have the enchanted runed crest in bag

[marble cipher]

I had to go to Executor above City of Threads and do like 2-3 short quests. Then I got it

[inland raft]

its there it just isnt a main story quest

[lusty grotto]

time to talk to customerGPT

[inland raft]

its a little spider guy

[lusty grotto]

just remember do not delete your character if it mentions it

[marble cipher]

Too late.....

[proud dock]

ah ok thanks this guy has a quest i can see

[proud dock]

💀

in higher keys, do i save ravager and shield charge for AoE threat gen? sometimes dps blow their load on next packs and i lose threat. of course stil using SC to interrupt as needed.

[autumn pawn]

Do whatever is needed in keys, ravager is best on aoe ofc.

[marble cipher]

SC to interrupt is 'ok' when in dire need. But remember that any stun will just make the mob recast whatever it was doing. So sometimes all it does is a short delay

[proud dock]

oh i forgot SC doesnt put the cast on CD

[lusty grotto]

it also adds to stun DR

so if you need a stun afterwards,

[marble cipher]

It's still better than the cast going off. But, not as good as it used to be thanks to blizz

And yeah, stun dr might be an issue too

[lusty grotto]

yeah but honestly its just something you dont think about since you just send it

for both SB refreshes and/or burst

but yeah in a pinch it'll work

[violet ginkgo]

I just hope after they nerf the CC effect (Mob insta recast after recover from CC) they just buff the spell-locked from interupt so if we properly interupt mob they can't recast for longer time.

at least make the interupt more rewarding

[proper roost]

you know the mobs recasting after a stop is intentional by blizzard right 🤨

they literally had a big bluepost about it

i think they even did increase spell lock as part of it

[lofty warren]

its a bad change and should be reverted

[inland raft]

meh just makes stuns a little less important is all

[solar yew]

Can someone pls help clarify when to revenge? Is it a filler when literally nothing else is available?

[inland raft]

nothing else available and might overcap rage

as mt that is

lowest prio ability, anything else can press is higher including ip, as colossus it pumps but i dont play colossus so idk whole story there

[proper roost]

yogi can you teach me how to do the mists maze

Thanks

[graceful kite]

Okay turns out there are mechanics on first dawnbreaker boss and it damages you once she starts casting beam

one oneshot to learn

[lofty warren]

its - predetgermined

[marble moth]

is it a way to craft a shield ?

[lofty warren]

ye

[proper roost]

predetgermined

[whole tulip]

Does hamstring work on the Dread Captain Lockwood in Boralus to stop her from jumping around?

[bleak sundial]

when is too much haste too much?

[rain light]

no

[bleak sundial]

so haste all the way?

[lofty warren]

there are soft caps

[south zealot]

once you get to 20% dr

idk what stat value it is in this expansion

[wicked pollen]

Can sudden death stack up to 2 like for dps?

[bleak sundial]

cause i just got the heroic sikran rare neck

and im planning to add gems i just dont know if i should just get crit gems over haste

[wicked pollen]

the answer to your question would be to sim yourself

[south zealot]

do you have 20k+ haste

[bleak sundial]

14k atm

[south zealot]

haste crit gems

haste main stat

[bleak sundial]

wookie ty

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[next burrow]

Wwhen rashan

[queen dome]

is sikran's arsenal excluded from sims? cant see it in raidbots at all

[south zealot]

i think its a dps trinket, no?

need to include off spec items

[snow island]

If I have a free offensive global to press, do I press an empowered shield slam or thunderblast?

[south zealot]

empowered by what

[warm plinth]

Empowered shield slam?

[snow island]

Idk sometimes it be glowing

Assumed that meant empowered

[warm plinth]

The glow is just a reset

I can see why it might be confusing though

[snow island]

Ohhh okay

[next burrow]

When rashan standing on the boat does he hit others if tnk is not inr range?

[warm plinth]

Shield slam is always your #1 priority outside of large aoe or blast on 2+ targets for outburst

[toxic pewter]

yes most definitely she will do not range her

[warm plinth]

You're doing great apb

[toxic pewter]

thank you

[south zealot]

casts on the group

instant wipe basically

[queen dome]

how do you include off-set in raidbots?

nvm found it

[patent musk]

ok, we are disgustingly tanky or what? i am HEALING as much as my vdh, while taking less damage

[trim condor]

wtf is NW, I did +6 only andd all dps folded here, healer hadd 1M hps and people still were dying left and right

[patent musk]

add should be dead and not even do a 3rd hook

after 2nd hook, it has to be dead

[pallid quiver]

that sounds like an issue with playing vdh to me, personally, unless you're like mega sending IV

Prot War 100% takes the least damage by design

[trim condor]

yeah, add lived until 3rd hook

[lofty warren]

should use spear on 3rd boss to kill it faster

[patent musk]

so why are we healing so much then? i can get insane hps via ignore pain

[proper roost]

🤨

[lofty warren]

E-H-R-P-S > healing done

[pallid quiver]

because ip isn't a heal, it's an absorb

It's still tracked there but

Any legit healing from pressing IP comes from Indom

[proper roost]

i don't think they're asking about the semantics of whether it's absorbs or healing

[patent musk]

it is more about how i feel self sufficient if a healer dies, while just taking less damage

very comfy

and getting leech enchants and tretiary procs off gear also is tremendous value

[proper roost]

yeah man idk maybe you're just a god

spec is op

[pallid quiver]

All tanks are self-sufficient outside of things that specifically threaten tanks. That's by design. If you don't feel that way on other tanks, even Pala, it's normally a play issue

[bleak sundial]

what we did was triple spear the boss on the firsthook with lust

[lofty warren]

go to NW and dont kill any of the aboms on 3rd boss and dont kill boss fast. then tell me how tanky you are with them hitting you

[sweet summit]

need a degen to make a mod for details! that tracks blocked hits as "healing" fr

[patent musk]

yes, as a vdh i was crying even on a 8

[lofty warren]

blizz nerfed vdh hard because they were good in last xpac

[patent musk]

absolutely insane damage to tank and group

[bleak sundial]

too broken with double fear chain and silence and aoe too withe double sigils

and how they reduce cd everytime a sigil hits anything

[south zealot]

nw third boss owns all tanks besides pwar

lol

[proper roost]

how

i've never done it with a non pwar

if you say Intervene I'll kill you (in roblox)

[red otter]

You coulda said any other game to make yourself look respectable

[proper roost]

he doesn't know..

[coarse sparrow]

I hadn't really tanked much since BFA and it's crazy that they mentioned they nerfed self-sustainability. It still feels pretty high to me

[harsh ermine]

guys, what do you think about the swarmlord authority trinket?

[bleak sundial]

i felt it with my bear without the lunar beam, just frenzy regen

but other than that yeah

[low bear]

The purple scarab looking one from last boss? Its good doing like 15-25% of my self healing

[harsh ermine]

so its great? I saw its just ranked C tier on WoWhead. looks awesome to me too:)

[low bear]

I think its one of those - wont help u parse, but helps with some self sustain these first few weeks

[bleak sundial]

what trinket are you guys sniping other than sacbrood?

[coarse sparrow]

yeah. Lunar beam is up so often though. Bear feels great cycling through defensive cds

[next burrow]

for recrrotic wal

[sick sentinel]

on SoB kraken, do we need to wait for people before grabbing the demolisher? i waited bc my group told me to and it still aggro'd and knocked people into water

[earnest nymph]

I just run over to the next section after both tentacles are dead

since it'll start smacking if no one is tanking it

hull cracker or whatever

[sick sentinel]

that's what I did and they got pissed and said I caused them to get knocked in

[earnest nymph]

tbh that fight feels a little different than it did back in the day, I can't tell if you're supposed to prio demo tentacles now since the guy no longer repairs until both tentacles are dead

[gritty eagle]

ugh, im 607 ilvl, have done the raid, and have the free runed crest, all the 180 runed crests still left.. im 606 in all slots except for a few 610 items.. any ideas on what to dump my upgrades into? 619 wrist with embellishment with the free crests and just dump the runed crests into the 610 items i have? or just save everything?

[earnest nymph]

am wondering if you should kill demo first so there's less dmg/knockback happening

[gritty eagle]

(im pugging so prolly not going to be doing +9s for gilded crafts this week)

[peak yoke]

anyone willing to give my gear a look and recc my next crafted piece? curr ilvl 603

[proper roost]

any hero track items that you don't think you'll upgrade any time soon 👍

[peak yoke]

i thought crafted werent on a track

[earnest nymph]

I think they were answering netto

[peak yoke]

my b

[soft tusk]

9+ drop 613 gear right?

[gritty eagle]

i believe so, and gilded crests

@proper roost i dont have any particularly good trinkets, so i guess dumping into random hero track pieces will have to be good enough

[trim condor]

just ddid +5 grim batol, until last boss breeze, but adds+aoe channel on last boss, wtf is that

[proper roost]

It's the only mechanic of the boss wdym "wtf is that"

The add debuff overlapping with the aoe channel is the intended difficulty

I think on 12+ you're probably meant to intentionally wait to DPS the adds so you don't have debuff but you can kind of just bruteforce it for now

[dark plover]

Yes you should

[trim condor]

collecting adds from others, get knockback, you got ton of ddmg to party, so healer cant focus you + we got so many tentacles in the end. Its not only mechanic

[proper roost]

yes the tentacles are what's called a "soft enrage"

like 60% of M+ bosses have them you see

the knockback also only happens to the tank + it's really not that much group aoe damage

[next burrow]

what do u do when the littile boss in 2nd spawns the adds

IN dawmbrear

[trim condor]

I had 390k hps in +5 and barely lived with cd on adds+channel overlap, I am 599, but I dont think ilvl helps that much

[proper roost]

390k hps as a tank is uhhhhhhhhh

😬

and ilvl makes a massive difference, but your specific struggle is not an ilvl thing, just gameplay

[trim condor]

uh what?

you know this is prot discord

[proper roost]

Yes

Ignore Pain counts as healing for HPS purposes

[trim condor]

yes, but you dont do numbers as druid

[proper roost]

And pwar can easily do way more than 390k hps on a tank-damage heavy boss at 599 ilvl

[trim condor]

I would love to see that

[limpid ruin]

You need to be fucking up pretty bad to pull that off. That’s means like 800k post mit sustained

[trim condor]

just pulled +10 log of pwar
400k hps in +10 on 615 ilvl, not sure what are you all smoking

[bleak parcel]

i personally pull 2m

[trim condor]

ah, I got trolled

[limpid ruin]

That’s not way more. And 15 more ilevel?

[graceful kite]

Im averaging 300-350k hps in dungeons now

606

weekly no leaver ara kara last boss took 20 minutes gotta rest

[toxic pewter]

Nose for Trouble is putting in work in these keys I tell you

doing like 8-11% of my healing

[dark plover]

I’m pulling the same numbers ish

[jagged pier]

yes its always done that

we have always said its the best horde race

[cold pilot]

Are there auras that track lightning strikes and flashing skies?

[dark plover]

450-500k hps ish depending on dungeon 612 ilvl

[whole umbra]

is there a breakdown somewhere of how I should prio leech?

I have a champ wep, but it is crit+mast+leech

wondering if I should craft a wep or upgrade that

[proper roost]

it's not worth 3 ilvls, no tertiaries are

[whole umbra]

well should I craft a crit haste wep? or just upgrade that and then craft some wrists and put embellishment on them?

(or a belt)

[molten gorge]

are we still embellishing vers / crit above 80% as best option ya?

[trim condor]

yeah, thats why I wrote that 390k feels too much in +5

[zealous goblet]

hey lads any idea why my spell block is being neurodivergent in my weak aura pack

[dark plover]

Yeah it’s normal, idk what he is on about for that ilvl

[zealous goblet]

how do i make it fade like everything else? it's not desaturate option

furthermore, i figured out how to put gcds on my weak auras, but how do i disable the timer ON the gcd? it shows 1.5 seconds for each icon and it's a little distracting

[foggy ingot]

Anyone have a good WA for Thread Uptime?

[swift orbit]

Have I been lied to? Does this season actually only have 3 m+ dungs? Mists, Wake and Boralus is all my group is getting and all that's in LFG. What's going on lmao

[blazing condor]

yeah they thought itd be easier to just have 3 dungeons

means they can focus more on balance and making 3 good dungeons

instead of having 8+ that are subpar

[prime garden]

What are the best 4 pieces of the tier set to get?

[loud patrol]

so

[prime garden]

Do we get shoulders last because they are high mastery?

[loud patrol]

am i crazy, bad or grim batol is a hard hit dungeon?

[prime garden]

gotta kite enforcers, if you dont know

otherwise, last corridor does hit hard

[tardy lily]

how bad is it to play thane with thunderous roar?

is it a significant loss of rage gen?

[plain vapor]

what did everyone spend their free enchanted runed crest on

[rain light]

a belt

[nova rover]

❤️

[mellow quartz]

last boss in City of Threads, healer dies at 90%, no brez. pwar, fdk, ret finishes the fight

healers are overrated anyway

[stray kernel]

Would you guys rather take the Wings of Shattered Sorrow cloak from vault and delay 4pc by one week, or just pick tier from vault?

[mellow quartz]

plate armor is OP as hell that fight

[toxic pewter]

how does no one have brez can buy jumper cables lol

[sacred quartz]

Yay a maybe brez that has to channel and stand almost on top of them

[mellow quartz]

Out of brez

[toxic pewter]

wat

it's a supremely useful item I have already brez'd 3 people

rank 2 cables are decently fast, once rank 3's get cheaper it will be just as fast as a normal brez cast time

[strong forum]

does alot of trickle healing, meaning it doesnt really protect you from anything

its fluff

but doesnt really make you survive big hits or dangerous shit

i think its more a nice to have trinket rather than a trinket that will be a deciding trinket

i have it on heroic but ive yet to use it cuz shit in keys just doesnt hurt

so it would just be pure fluff

[sacred quartz]

It can be useful, but it's not even close to apples to apples w an actual brez, several of which are instant

[toxic pewter]

??????? no one even said it is, but if you are not carrying some that is bad

definitely need them and use them

[sand condor]

I have tried to colossus build, and I would like to say that it is hilarious

I played absolutely atrociously

[violet ginkgo]

I’ll pick the rare first.

[strong forum]

and so do many many many raid tanks 😄

[toxic pewter]

yah I want that cloak

[next burrow]

hekllo can i ask what the small spider does whhen it reachers the boss, ( he spawms oot mid combat [Akara,city of echos

[toxic pewter]

bad things lol

[strong forum]

buff the boss dmg output by 50% for each spider

[next burrow]

the dps piuf said feed the boss

jesus

[strong forum]

hell fucking no

dont get the boss to them

thats insta wipe

[next burrow]

i know

[violet ginkgo]

You know those dps lied to you to run from their responsibility

[sand condor]

i even played some fights on 500 ping, i missed a ton of spell reflects on court too

[next burrow]

i waa confiused why u dod it

[sand condor]

but the collosus build is funny

[next burrow]

thney^

[strong forum]

spell reflect doesnt contribute to your dmg on logs

[sand condor]

it doesnt?

[strong forum]

nop

[sand condor]

okay

i learn something every day

[ornate pulsar]

Does anyone have any YouTuber recommendations for me to watch to learn prot warrior?

[sacred quartz]

Looks like you just like to argue apb

[violet ginkgo]

Watch nome’s stream

But is Nome do a lot of stream lately? I only know critkek is on stream almost everyday sacrificing his sleep

[strong forum]

i been doing lot of uninteresting stuff, only ran a handful of dungeons yet and just alot of raiding

[ornate pulsar]

Any YouTuber that you know of? Catching a stream with my schedule is sometimes difficult

[sand condor]

I'm sad to see no prot wars in rwf, but I assume that is due to the fact fury is good atm and is ebing taken consistently?

[strong forum]

cuz no unique buff

[mighty valley]

yeah, don't need bshout, don't need rally

this fight loves more grips

[violet ginkgo]

I think nome also saving vod right? If yes you can see his vod.

[grizzled orbit]

what talents u runing for m+

[toxic pewter]

I need that warp blade item for transmog

[native island]

13 different trial warriors on 13 different realms. No hidden artifact for prot ;-;

[neon elk]

Is the debate on embelish somehow closed ? Threads vs ascension ?

[fathom sun]

hey all, anyone having a hard time as Prot. Pal. in M+? Have been playing Warrio Prot. and feel Pally just gets chunked and I have to constantly have mitigations CDs on. Prot. war. was far more smoother.

[robust urchin]

Hammer of Wrath is next door

[fathom sun]

at this point I'm thinking of just goin Holy in M+

I'm using the lightsmith build from wowhead....

[lusty grotto]

sense's guild is doing really well

lets go

kill that rashanan!

[proper roost]

can't decide what to get for dinner

I'm getting a big ass cup of coffee

Gots to get a shield tonight!

[shut summit]

.6% wipe with 4people DC'd cuz servers were shittin themselves all night long

fun stuff

[mellow quartz]

is the m+ tier token from 2k or 2.5k score?

[strong forum]

2k, aotc or 1.6k pvp rating

[feral tiger]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=226521/reinforced-wax-plating#comments i have this thing at 610 anyone smarter than me figured out how much vers equiv this is flat 25,777 damage reduction of all types

[strong forum]

that depends on the content

[soft aspen]

what do you get with tier token

[mellow quartz]

got 2k, dont have a token of quest for a token and looking at wowhead see something say 2.5k

[feral tiger]

i know what i must do but i'm too dumb to figure it out

[strong forum]

[mellow quartz]

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=20525/the-war-within-keystone-master-season-one#comments

?

[vocal cave]

dawnthread linings doesn't stack?

[strong forum]

it does

[mellow quartz]

says 2.5k inside

[strong forum]

drop below 80% hp

and then get above again

itll work then

[strong forum]

it also depends on if it applies before mitigation or after

[vocal cave]

ty

[mellow quartz]

no wait, confused now

[strong forum]

assuming its post mitigation, its worth extremely high amounts of vers for blockable hits

[bleak breach]

Shield from Illidan any good? Or just tmog?

[strong forum]

but thats such a weird equation

[feral tiger]

i mean its flat magic reduction too

[mellow quartz]

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=20526/the-war-within-keystone-hero-season-one
This is the one giving the token, says 2.5k

[feral tiger]

so idk if its good lmao

[strong forum]

its not good enough to warrant using for weekly keys

cuz shit already does 0 dmg

[strong forum]

keystone hero is for the cosmetic part no?

[warm plinth]

Shouldn't be that achieve

[strong forum]

should be ksm cheevo or?

[warm plinth]

In df they were just called season x master

[strong forum]

2.5k for particle effect

2k for keystone master

[soft aspen]

where do you see you get a token man lol

[mellow quartz]

why do I not have a token then hmmm

[warm plinth]

No mention of keys or admiring

Anything

[bleak breach]

It’s 2k, few guildies got it say 1

[strong forum]

it comes in the mail

its not in the bags, it comes in mail

also you only get 1

[mellow quartz]

da fuq

[wind sleet]

what to craft as a prot warr

[bleak breach]

I don’t have the free time to do that, but it’s pretty easy. I think if you do around 6s at minimum you get it (timed)

Also 10s seem ridiculously hard atm. Seems to only really be specific keys people are capable of doing to get there atm.

[strong forum]

you need good players yes to meet the number requirements

as in dps and hps

[mellow quartz]

mist 10 is pretty easy

[strong forum]

well yeah

ara kara is also pretty easy

if your dps have actual dps

[bleak breach]

Yeah, my Guildies have pretty much spammed for mist or ara kara

Rest are too difficult at current power levels.

[mellow quartz]

610 ilvl, 580 boots

fun times

[strong forum]

[mellow quartz]

only SOB and COT have plate boots

[strong forum]

my jewelry still fucking sucks

[mellow quartz]

no raiding

[bleak breach]

Yeah, I’m 606 with 580 boots. Feels bad

[crude hound]

exact same position, 606 with 580 boots

omen crafted boots meta?

[mellow quartz]

when is the 2nd catalyst charge, this reset or the one after?

[bleak breach]

Just send your spark on 619 boots, easy fix

[strong forum]

should get both next week

its basically like this now

spark + cata -> nothing -> spark + cata -> nothing -> spark + cata

[crude hound]

anyone know how many sparks we're gonna get?

[strong forum]

always half a spark

a week

so every 2 weeks you get 1 full spark craft

[crude hound]

cause im thinking i just send it and spark for boots and shield now, just dont want to waste it really

[strong forum]

you get a full next craft and catalyst charge next week

so fucking up /wasting isnt really a thing anymore

was only for last week and this week where you wanted to min-max

[crude hound]

ah fair

[dreamy topaz]

dawnthread or duskthread for prot embelishment?

[strong forum]

and also only if you mythic raid

whatever sims better

(probably dawn unless you have massive crit already)

[dreamy topaz]

yeah only at 23 percent

[stark lance]

So, why would I be getting agi one hands in dungeons?

[strong forum]

warbound loot

warbound loot can be any item from the dungeon, not exclusive to your class

this is so you can gear alts while playing your main

[trim condor]

its extra nice, I got 600 bow like this, I always play tank/healerr first and then hunter for chilling and I have weapon ready already

[keen leaf]

Any spell reflect lists yet by chance?

[toxic pewter]

Check pins

[forest lodge]

What would you guys have crafted? Shield or neck? Both pieces of gear I have are the same ilvl

[toxic pewter]

I would not craft neck personally cuz I would work to get that bis neck from raid (which I already do have champion version of)

[remote ruin]

yo guys, is it worth crafting beledars?

[toxic pewter]

Is that the shield

[remote ruin]

yea with the vers procc

[toxic pewter]

if I recall correctly not many people like that/considered not good

[remote ruin]

hmpf

[mellow quartz]

just craft the normal shield if you need a shield

[real fossil]

Made the mistake of crafting a cloak before reading the rare raid cloak tooltip 😢, seems not bad and with haste!

[toxic pewter]

Yes don’t really want to craft a neck, cloak, 1x ring all three are very rare drops that are very good

[kind glen]

Eh I crafted cloak and bracers and slapped some crit embellishments on em. Cloak effect is okay but not busted

[next axle]

For Silken Court are people finding better success running Colossus or MT?

[toxic pewter]

Yah not huge deal at the end of the day for sure

[real fossil]

The 10% heal received is pretty lit the avoidance is whatever

[grizzled orbit]

what wa are u using

[toxic pewter]

I mean hero spec choice won’t really make or break silken court in my opinion. Just up to raid to do mechanics (trips/dispels)

[next axle]

Is it worth picking up Bitter Immunity for the extra dispel?

[kind glen]

Problem is getting it, imo. I got like 20+ people who want it lol

[toxic pewter]

Nah not really

I mean more for healers to dispel people near the skinny boss mob mechanic

[next axle]

It is reflectable though, no?

I read it was

[toxic pewter]

Yeah you can reflect the poison one and deflect the magic one if I recall correctly

[kind glen]

^

[real fossil]

I haven’t even specced into colossus yet

[next axle]

Spell Block does nothing against it though, correct?

[real fossil]

Thunder smash babyyyy

[toxic pewter]

Yeah spell block helps I think

[kind glen]

The block/reflect sheet is like my personal bible lol

[next axle]

It is blockable

That's sick

I had trouble with it on my bear, thinking prot might have an easier time there

I read some dude was saying they dont even really swap

[toxic pewter]

I won’t lie I feel pretty strong during court myself

[next axle]

Bc can phase before 3rd piercing strike comes out

Only swap if poison bolt is getting to be too much

The bolts are casted in 4-6 cast successions before she stops for a second, the dispel shouuld come out towards the end of the sequence

[bleak breach]

Court is fine, the big slug gives me nightmares

[toxic pewter]

This entire raid I think prot warr is actually pretty strong

[bleak breach]

Also unless something changed void bolt wasn’t reflectable for me?

Not sure if anyone else encountered it, but I just had to eat the void bolts.

[toxic pewter]

Hmm I thought I remember reflecting them when I did it

Deflects

[bleak breach]

I could reflect the poison, but didn’t successfully reflect 1 void bolt.

[kind glen]

Deflects per the sheet

[bleak breach]

Ahh rip, yep so just don’t take damage at all then?

Versus damage to boss from poison bolt

[toxic pewter]

Yes right

But can only deflect like every other one or every third one or something

[bleak breach]

Just tank for p1 then tell the DK to taunt it haha

[toxic pewter]

Wat u mean

Does that work deaths advance the charging boss

Is that what you mean

[zealous goblet]

@strong forum sorry to ping you directly here, but regarding your seeing red tracker, if i wanted to play a sound when it was fully stacked, what condition would i need?

i've fiddled with it a bit and cannot figure it out. am dumb.

[bleak breach]

No apb, just mean let the DK eat the void bolts once you can’t reflect damage anymore

[toxic pewter]

Oh right lol

[bleak breach]

Stuff em

They can ams it

[graceful kite]

fully stacked seeing red is called outburst

[pallid quiver]

Easy way to handle it would be to make another wa that plays a sound when you get outburst

Otherwise, iirc, there's actual code that goes on in that tracker you'd need to mess with

Since when outburst is full, it procs a buff called Violent Outburst

[waxen elk]

for crafted weapon does it matter which crafted weapon i choose? or any strength 1 hander

[pallid quiver]

Any str 1 hand, though sword probably easiest to have made

[lusty grotto]

weapon type doesnt matter

[pallid quiver]

They're all the same in the end

[cerulean tusk]

What about daggers?

[zealous goblet]

tysm

[pallid quiver]

I hear they give increased rage gen from the higher attack speed

[cerulean tusk]

Devestator auto attack value machine

[toxic pewter]

I’d use a dagger if it had some str on it

[cerulean tusk]

Who wouldn't

[pallid quiver]

Mog sucks, I wouldn't

Daggers generally get cheated on the mogs

[cerulean tusk]

Pftz, u are weak

[kind glen]

make fist weapons str

I wanna punch things

[toxic pewter]

I want that new void fist weapon

[kind glen]

for sure. its why my alt is a monk so i can try and get mog lol

[toxic pewter]

Yes been thinking of doing that also

I just saw one drop in lfr and literally one monk in raid got it lol

[floral trail]

Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg is a raid trinket right? it’s pretty bad in m+ or do you think it got some value

[ancient scaffold]

What is the ECD of shield wall after all the CDR? 1min?

[warm plinth]

Approximately, yes

[soft tusk]

what's our bis weapon enchant again?

[bleak breach]

Trink is decent, you get good uptime on high stats

Just gotta lock it at 20 and 10 as much as possible

[robust urchin]

Classic Andy go Home

[proper roost]

he doesn't know about the smf dagger build

[robust urchin]

Ur playing the Simple Minded Fury build BRUH 💀💀💀💀💀

[soft tusk]

can anyone help a fellow noob out? Best weapon enchant?

[proper roost]

wowhead

[bleak breach]

Authority of radiant power

Authority of the depths for pure damage

[lean grove]

Any word on this trinket? Suddenly see so many people using it

[bleak breach]

Dunno, seems kinda meh. Sims are middle of the table.

About the same as the candle

[robust urchin]

If I didn't have any good hero ilvl trinkets I'd use that too

[lean grove]

Yeah comparing it to a Spare meat hook which i know is awesome but this one's hero track, hook is veteran

[robust urchin]

I mean almost 4k Str is pretty huge

[neat parrot]

what piece from the 4 set we dont want?

[bleak breach]

Tutsi

It aims really well for aoe, 5th overall.

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/trinkets/castingpatchwerk5

[robust urchin]

The bad one

[bleak breach]

Not as good for ST but decent overall

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/trinkets/castingpatchwerk

[bleak breach]

Shoulders

[neat parrot]

which one is dat one?

lmao the only non hero item on me is shoulders

[bleak breach]

There’s nice crit haste shoulders from one of the dungeons

[neat parrot]

now in this situation what should i choose ? i have tier on head an legs

[bleak breach]

What you mean?

[neat parrot]

i mean that i have 2p and i go for 4p, but i have hero track and good stats on hands and chest and my worst itms atm is shoulders and feets

[bleak breach]

Still go helm, chest, hands, legs. Just don’t rush

Our 4pc sucks anyway so it’s not game breaking to wait a little for better itemisation

Ilvl is king, so if you want to get hero tier shoulders first then go for it and just replace something else later.

[queen hemlock]

stonebault master mechanists, how do you peeps deal with exhaust vents?
i barely have the time to find and move to one before the big guy pulls it over and detonates it
on the 2-3 rotation of it its like 3 seconds of leeway

[robust urchin]

Hands are best optimized so use those

[lean grove]

Tyvm Sokraxx!

[robust urchin]

Leap

[queen hemlock]

the other people die

is there a way to pre position

[queen hemlock]

like any indications on where the next set of vents gonna show up

[lean grove]

When crafting, does it matter if you go for belt, wrists, back, ring etc or is is it just the highest ilvl-upgrade

[robust urchin]

Yeah the bad vents start to steam

[queen hemlock]

before the boss even casts exhaust?

[lean grove]

Yeah, so you have time to move to it during that

[shell atlas]

Has anyone solo'd Zekvir as prot yet?

[robust urchin]

He says countermeasures activate or something and you have a few seconds

[queen hemlock]

fuck me never noticed guess i have to look at it again

yea he does but i had one where the moment he is casting it

the big guy was 2-4 seconds from pulling the big metal cube

[robust urchin]

I dunno man it never happened so far you usually have enough time

[queen hemlock]

say i did jump but my team just dies

especially the priest lmao

[robust urchin]

Call them noobs

[queen hemlock]

yea well it keeps happening

[robust urchin]

Send them this gif

[queen hemlock]

not gonna lie i havent finished a fucking 5 sv
either that boss
or that fucking final boss where people dont turn in the corruption shit

went to a +7 and see people die left and right lol

[lean grove]

When crafting, does it matter if you go for belt, wrists, back, ring etc or is is it just the highest ilvl-upgrade possible

[queen hemlock]

technically no

[proper roost]

yes it literally shows you which vent doesn't activate

gives you like, 10 seconds

[robust urchin]

5 shouldn't be that hard

The void thing barely does any damage to you as well so you might just keep it for a while

[queen hemlock]

didnt finish a 5 got into a 7 and see people pop left and right

[robust urchin]

Let the others clean it off

[proper roost]

it ramps pretty quickly

[queen hemlock]

they held it and died to the detonation

yea for tanks we can hold its everyone else LOL

[robust urchin]

I mean yeah you have to rotate it and stuff

[proper roost]

if a single or even a couple failed keys is gonna discourage you, you're not gonna have a good time in M+

especially in these first few weeks

[robust urchin]

Kanga knows all about failing keys

[queen hemlock]

ive failed 7 keys in a row lol

[proper roost]

especially if you're getting upset at people not knowing the mechanics to new dungeons

[queen hemlock]

fucccking depresso

[robust urchin]

Have you considered not inviting mouth breathers?

[queen hemlock]

how do i know who isnt LOL

[robust urchin]

Oh it's pretty easy

[proper roost]

last season io shows up, their ilvl shows up, idk, it's really not that complicated

[robust urchin]

No invite list:
Kazzak
Area52
Any RP realm
French Realms
Russian Realms
Portuguese Realms

[queen hemlock]

imagine i invited a 1.6k io dk into a 6 city of threads, bugger didnt know the mechs
had 610 ilvl
told me he knew
fucking first boss let everyone eat the puddle till 1/5 hp then started moving
my jaw just dropped

[proper roost]

out of groups i've made so far this season i've only really had bad players in like the first 2 i did where i just invited the first 4 people i saw

looking at io right now

is pretty goober behavior

[robust urchin]

For horde: No vulperas and pandas for alliance: no worgen and pandas

[proper roost]

tbh with you

[queen hemlock]

yea but im not sure how to invite people
even in df i somehow keep lucking those hyper moutbreathers

was like wow guy is 2.9k io gotta be good

below a prot warrior in overall dps on a tyr week

(0)_(0)

[robust urchin]

Invite the following: BDK, FDK, Resto Shaman, Ass Rogue, Fury maybe Surv

[red otter]

skill issue, shoulda played around it...

need to do less dps so hes ahead of you

[queen hemlock]

FUCK ME

LOL

[neat parrot]

what embellish we use??

[robust urchin]

When do I get an invite? 🥺

[queen hemlock]

below the chat
protection faq
embellishment
#1269008707103096843 message

[neat parrot]

oh didnt see

ty

[proper roost]

idk what you want really, do you think this is sympathetic

literally everyone has access to the same LFG as you

if every group you make is a problem, there is 1 common denominator, that's all

[queen hemlock]

belt boots bracers are good to be crafted
if youre a lucker and got the rash something something cape thats pretty good dont craft a cape then

[robust urchin]

Damn bro really hit him with that "maybe it's you"

[proper roost]

other people don't get an ascended LFG queue

of players

🤷

[queen hemlock]

the reason why there are bis gears are due to some gear having the stats you want and some dont
u craft to just get the stats you want instead of some 3rd rated stats
but honestly it doesnt matter
just get what u have

[robust urchin]

Actually he might have different people

Depending on yours and his region

[queen hemlock]

no i just want to ask about what to do about the boss

[proper roost]

just lie down and die I guess, real messed up that your team has to play well in a multiplayer pve game and not only you

[queen hemlock]

i know guy says doing something
i have DBM telling me
i try to pre move but fuck me no kick molten something
people keep dying
so im asking MAYBE
immidiatly after he does exchaust vents
before the next is even near
i can know where to pre position

[proper roost]

hope blizzard fixes this issue in future

[robust urchin]

I dunno what to say man he gives ample time to move and you're not the only one with a kick

Like zoom out to have a better view?

[bleak breach]

What level keys are you failing first?

[robust urchin]

5 he mentioned

[queen hemlock]

5-6-7

just failed a 7

[runic grove]

there are discord communities you can join where you can learn to do keys, if you're having trouble pugging, but they are strict on behaviour

[waxen frigate]

No invite list:
Nanomachines
Kanga

[runic grove]

dungeon dojo, mythic plus friends, wow made easy

no pressure

[bleak breach]

7 understandable. 5 you’re getting nuffies

[queen hemlock]

hell does strict on behavior mean

[runic grove]

Just be a nice normal person

[bleak breach]

But also gotta just be a bit understanding this early, people are learning.

[robust urchin]

Don't go in yelling gamer words

[runic grove]

pretty much

[bleak breach]

I really hope they’re exceptional players to make up for the toxicity.

[queen hemlock]

ask u i assumed westerners
is tart a gamer word now i got muted prior for calling myself one

[robust urchin]

But I'm not Toxic I'm very cheerful and nice. Just ask Fumbles

[bleak breach]

Which keys have you been failing @queen hemlock

[bleak breach]

Based off a quick read before that’s not my observation

[queen hemlock]

city of threads
stone vault
siege
worst of it is siege
at least can complete but never timed beyond a 4

[queen hemlock]

well sv i only finished a 2 holy fuck

but i find sv to be a not my fault kinda thing

[robust urchin]

I swear I'm normal and can be trusted in group settings

[bleak breach]

Stonevault ain’t easy

There’s a lot of mechanics people didn’t get to see in base heroics and mythic due to kill times.

Sob difficult too and gb

If you wanna push early best keys are ara kara and mists

[runic grove]

I was excited for SV because it's a normal dungeon with no weird pathing, you just go down a corridor, then it ends up being pretty tough

[queen hemlock]

havent tried anything beyond a 5 grim
timed it tho

find grim to be a breeze for me as a fury or as a prot
not so much everyone else

[robust urchin]

This guy timed a grim batol 5 but dies in stonevault

[bleak breach]

Mostly the twin boss. The vent machining. I’d rather simple but super punishing and easy to mess up

[queen hemlock]

yea u tell me LOL

[runic grove]

Yeah, I don't mind complicated mechanics. I hate Dawnbreaker because I have to fly around.

I just want to walk down a hallway

[robust urchin]

Try final fantasy

[queen hemlock]

i only wish i can pre positon for the exhaust vents
seeing people who just stand on the same vents and ask me
why u no put boss in middle
when im standing in the fucking middle

sorry for the rant
ive dont know how i keep failing the key thinking maybe i dont understand the boss
watched people play it and it looked so human and thought maybe i kept doing things wrong

still thanks ill try again

[bleak breach]

They will steam up before they’re active

Just gotta be near the one with nothing happening

Also advice with pugs is if you get decent ones try to stay in a group or add them on bnet.

[robust urchin]

Or try to look for a guild/community

Just don't give up and keep trying

Don't mind Kanga he's just a bully

[lofty warren]

bullying is bad

[robust urchin]

And wrong

Bullying is Badong

[queen hemlock]

in guild but even doing it with them is piss hard lul
sv is just god awful

[lofty warren]

Kanga@ should correct himself before he wreck himself

[queen hemlock]

like a bit of the fire spewing out right?
i was thinking maybe if it wasnt smoking kinda of pre position

[robust urchin]

And also check himself before he recks himself

[bleak breach]

Yeah no smoke = pre position

[queen hemlock]

wait no smoke exist?

[bleak breach]

Make sure every hot metal I think it’s called gets interrupted too

[queen hemlock]

fuck ok

ok

[lofty warren]

need a non brain-dead ranged that can interrupt to do stonevault

[queen hemlock]

think im blind then

[robust urchin]

Bro what you mean

[queen hemlock]

all dead no brain

[robust urchin]

3 of the vents will start to steam

[queen hemlock]

ehhh let me grab a screenshot

[proper roost]

we taught him the dungeon wrong, as a joke

[robust urchin]

And the one that isn't is the safe one

[robust urchin]

Yogi isn't here right now

[lofty warren]

you want to go to the vent THAT ISN"T ON FIRE

[proper roost]

maybe he's playing on like literal negative graphics settings

[queen hemlock]

see the smoke?

[proper roost]

sounds like a college zoomer kid

i remember when i had to play wow on like integrated intel gpu laptop

[bleak breach]

Kanga why so toxic

[proper roost]

potate computer

there is literally nothing wrong with being a college zoomer kid

[bleak breach]

I hope you’re a ce, m+ title 100 parser

[proper roost]

in fact that is an enviable position

they have their whole lives ahead of them and also will see like 30% of the world die to climate change

[proper roost]

it owns

why did that guy think calling someone a college zoomer is an insult

weird

[queen hemlock]

so this is when he is casting exhaust vents

i thought maybe there would be a grate that doesnt smoke
and i can just run there when the previous exhaust ends

[lofty warren]

that gif is so not in the right patch ppal sucks :KEKW

[robust urchin]

That's also super cringe

[proper roost]

yeah i think that lady is like 17 man

little weird to put it lightly

[lofty warren]

ok i removed it since girls scary

[coarse lynx]

Why does pWar feel so much tankier than the other tanks good god

My 590 pWar feels tankier than my 600 bear lol

[proper roost]

joined a key and said heya in all caps because caps lock was accidentally on

how embarrassing

[bleak breach]

Pwar has always been tankier, we just don’t heal

It’s super smooth atm, especially in mountain thane. Don’t like the intervene talent though, needs to be interchangeable for something better. Same with the shockwave one for colossus that you have to use in raid.

[coarse lynx]

Who needs to heal when you take no damage

[bleak breach]

Fair call

[queen hemlock]

i mean we heal now tho
ever since they added the talent where rage consume to % heal

in shadowlanda it was..... healer dead
time to slowly die

[manic surge]

is there a piece of gear should we be omen crafting?

[vocal flame]

I have officially gotten every single shitty trinket in this expac so far. Another added to the list

[proud dock]

i can craft boots and not put an embell on it right now, right? and maybe next week put an embell on it if things gets tuned?

[bleak breach]

Just go nuts

[queen hemlock]

pay the recraft but yes

[bleak breach]

If you’re not Uber min maxing it doesn’t matter and you’ll have another spark next week.

[proud dock]

gotcvha

[bleak breach]

Most of the embellishments are trash anyway

Just grab 2 dawnthread linings and be done with it

[queen hemlock]

are you asking for an embellishment or just crafted gear
and should wise
before anything is changed
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1269008707103096843
read this shit

as of what gear to craft
anything but where set piece can be should be fine
common pieces are bracers, belts and cloaks

[tribal wharf]

shoulda stayed on wow

tried the final boss, didnt even come close to killing him once

[balmy spade]

what do you think about this trinket guys ? is it good or what ?

Does this trinket reduce 25777 from every damage I take?

[tribal wharf]

name

my name

read

ty

you r welcum

[balmy spade]

And does this work on DOTs and posions?

[tribal wharf]

its bad

[balmy spade]

: ((

Do you test it ?

[tribal wharf]

if i recall correctly, it should only reduce melees

and only by 25k, that means nothing when throngus hits for 5 million melee, reduced 25k of that

[waxen frigate]

that should not b e the case at all

it should be all damage instances

[tribal wharf]

does it work for everything? hmm, well, its still bad

[kind urchin]

Is it calculated before or after other damage reductions? If after it's not that bad. If before it's trash.

[coarse lynx]

Ain't acension great?

[tribal wharf]

In-Game tooltip says 44.956 damage reduction. Tested it out and its nowhere near that. Closer to 5-6k at most. However testing wasnt all to accurate.

[sacred bear]

hello guys, you know if the beledar shield ( ambelish) is good to craft in ilv619 ?

[tribal wharf]

damage reduction trinkets like that would be cool if they did what they said on the box,

[lusty grotto]

read the wowhead guide

[sacred bear]

idk what can I craft with the 619 token

[lusty grotto]

under bis -> crafted list

[tribal wharf]

they dont and so they dont add to killing the boss any quicker

[lusty grotto]

and you will have your answer

[sacred bear]

ty

[undone stone]

is it normal that embellishments no longer scale with ilvl?

[bleak breach]

Not for prot apparently

[waxen frigate]

there are a lot of different people saying different things

but afaik it's pre-mitigation

so bad

[coarse lynx]

Oh, wonder if that's good for prot cause the cost drop

[lusty grotto]

its new for this expansion, but normal

or intended

[undone stone]

i see, i thought sg wrong at my side

or just a visual bug

[lusty grotto]

what are you talking about specifically

dawn/dusk?

[undone stone]

dusk

well both*

[lusty grotto]

yeah

it doesnt scale with ilvl

they dont want another BSL apparently

i'd imagine they want embelishments to change season to season

[undone stone]

could be the case if they add new ones each season

[proud dock]

mostly a keyyer, is haste vers beter than haste crit on crafted? since lots of casts this szn?

[lusty grotto]

they just dont want another shadowflame patch for 3 patches situation

[lusty grotto]

no, and youre not new here so you should know better

[proud dock]

😭

[lusty grotto]

idk why that guy went haste vers

on those 2 items

but we dont pay his sub so whatever

tbh i was hoping versa andies would fade, but apparently the VDH shock wasnt enough

but, gotta admit its a lot less frequent

so i guess it kinda did

[proper roost]

the egos on people in low keys is crazy

mage threw a tantrum and literally did not come in for skarmorak

cuz he pulled aggro on a triple pull cuz he opened up before monk even threw a SCK on anything

or however brm aoe works nowadays idk

[flint laurel]

Do we have some stats about the % of dmg we win with the 2P and 4P ?

[thin pollen]

would rod of the sun king be any good?

weird item to get

[lofty warren]

way

[balmy spade]

So, are these two useless guys?

[bleak breach]

Not useless, just better options about

[tribal wharf]

the wax is a D tier, almost f

d -

[raven sluice]

anyone got any tips for dealing with caustic fang from the spiders on Ansurek HC?

[plain anchor]

Hi! Im kind of stumped, is there a specific craft i should be crafting?

[bleak parcel]

howdy fellas roughly hm does it take to craft rn? i was trying to save money but I'm still stuck with a pre season heroic weapon and actively crying

[tribal wharf]

ceasless swarmgland is between a C and a D, maybe B- in nice circumstances

[sour iron]

is the passive from bulwark worth more than the secondary stats on other shields from the same ilvl?

[fringe relic]

Any special talent tree for delves? Or just use a dungeon build?

[cerulean tusk]

It is delves, so just treat it like m+

[tribal wharf]

i gotta go spam delves soon

dunno how good of keys im gunna be able to run, not evn 600 ilvl

[cerulean tusk]

You can do 10s, most likely you get into 7-8 area already on the regular as a pug tank

[tribal wharf]

maybe, see what happens

[warm plinth]

No, it's shit

[languid sorrel]

yo guys, sorry if dumb/repeated question but I'm not sure based on the infos I read, so I would like some opinions, if possible.
I'm playing main tank but I do like to play DPS sometimes, I was considering crafting the shield, but since it will be useless when I play DPS (and I saw some guys crafting wrist/waist that deals DPS based on socketed gems, but I'm not sure if it was because they're main DPS or 'cause it's also cool for tanks).

Can anyone give me opinions?
Thanks in advance <3

[rigid yew]

The season will last at least 4 months. Tons of time. There's no wrong/right decision. Do what you want and have fun.
There guides linked here / wowhead / icyviens, if you want a little guidance.

[rigid yew]

There was a spreadsheet linked with sims and it was like 2% increase for 4-set.

[tepid reef]

Could anyone explain how to position second boss heroic in raid? I can't figure out how to do it properly p2 when the adds are split

p1 was fine, and i was leading positioning, im not catching what needs to happen for p2

[zealous goblet]

so with the addition of thunder blast, is tracking seeing red as big of a deal or has it equalized more?

[lusty grotto]

yes of course its still a big deal

200% increased damage?

[merry sluice]

bro i get izo is hard but christ these pugs are actually braindead

[lusty grotto]

wb Chery

youve been away

[merry sluice]

they just wanna stand still and burn it

then get shocked they need to do mechs ;o

[lapis burrow]

Thats the classic players, coming to retail with every new expansion and leaving after 2 weeks

[fickle tundra]

is the immortal build still a thing on tww s1?

[lusty grotto]

it exists

whether people need it though

i would say a flat no

[zinc marten]

guys what should we craft?

[twilit burrow]

Anyone with some tips for tanking Queen ansurak on heroic

the liquify is annihilating me and feast is putting a giant heal absorb on me even with shield wall running

[lusty grotto]

did you read sense's sheet?

and/or are you using spell block ?

if you havent #protection-faq has the sheet link

[bleak breach]

Wrist/waist or boots better for multi speccing

[devout light]

hey guys im new i just hit 70 (no war within) my gear is sorely lacking and i would like some advice please

[vague abyss]

i just did wrist and waist and damn i spent more than i though i would with those r3 mats, at least i have a 619 vambrace/belt that i guess i can recraft to 629 later

[vague abyss]

at that low doesnt matter, just level up with normal dungeons (idk how populated those are at this time on the patch), specially if you are a tank

scaling works like you are basically a god when you are leveling, so unless you pull half the dungeon you will be fine

[tepid reef]

hm?

[fickle tundra]

nome used to have a training wheels build for m+ on df

asking for a friend, of course.

[tepid reef]

i mean, i'd use that

i play real trash when learning new bosses

[jagged pier]

Its on wowhead i think

[devout light]

im not sure im currently doing neltharus solo

i really need a belt tho since its still 14 item lvl

[vague abyss]

i havent played this week due to work, what is the ideal key number for a 609 ilvl?

apparently i still get invited to 4's with 0 io o.o

[fossil wind]

why does thunder clap have a lower crit rate than other abilities, is there a reason for this or am i being gangstalked by blizzard?

[south zealot]

RNG

[fossil wind]

across like 5k hits that doesnt seem very likely

i would sooner believe that i'm a targeted individual

[jagged gust]

you are

I can already hear the podcasts being spoken about it

[fossil wind]

there must be an explanation for this

across 5 keys thunder blast and clap are critting half as often as they should

[jagged gust]

are you sure details isn't logging them as different instances and skewing the results?

[fossil wind]

are you asking if there's two instances of thunder blast in details, or separate logs for clap and blast?

former is not the case latter is

[wind berry]

Is swarmlord's really a C trinket when we have 25% haste?

[merry sluice]

Guys

I think I did it

I found the dumbest healer possible

I got flamed for not running sanlayn earlier 🙂

Oh wrong tank chat but it works

[vague abyss]

guys please rate my Necrotic Wake MDT (Keystore.guru doesnt have one apparently)

[edgy bone]

prot warrior

[merry sluice]

I feel like gate keeper should be Uber banned

[edgy bone]

more like

poop

[vague abyss]

i also feel like i shouldnt be touching gate keeper either

maybe this? seems like a stretch

i though i could just do this from memory when i did this back in shadowlands, but i almost burnt my key due to lacking %

so i basically kill everything except the gatekeepers and a little pack of adds between those gate keepers :x

[merry sluice]

You can also consider dropping the part of 5 circled in blue. Just babysit the two-pack’s casts and walk them around the side, and do them with 6 to cut out a pull.

But yeah. They added like 20% since beta. It’s fucking cringe

[vague abyss]

yeah i dont remember having to clear this much in shadowlands

[merry sluice]

Dw, ontop of the percent changes, 13 used to patrol, and (I think it was 9) used to sit in front of the boss and could be more easily skipped

🙂

Still think the key is easy overall (compared to half the painfully overturnedbs this season…) minus stitchflesh and dps butt pulling gatekeepers

[vague abyss]

idk if i can move 5 and 6 together, those 2 adds tends to stay back casting drain fluids

oh wait nvm

wrong kind of caster, ye i think i can move it

yeah the key itself is easy, i cri for the nerfed weapons though 😦

[merry sluice]

A real fun one

Is the affix balls

Eating the creation’s hook on third boss 😄

We bricked to that one on first day

Loved it!

[vague abyss]

wait really?, lol i save my shockwave to clear those affix balls

im a bit confused when i go upstairs, im supposed to pull all the left side with the patrol?

[clever bronze]

I don't think I did. It was missing a ton of stam and secondaries, after all. (EDIT: I will not read any replies unless you tag or directly reply to me.)

[vague abyss]

damn i should had paid more attention when i was doing this as a lock back in the day

[merry sluice]

Well I only did ++8 as my highest NW so far, I just let the pat walk into me while doing part of 15, basically chaining it instead of all at once. Timer seems pretty lenient in spite of the obscene forces count

But I’m sure in bigger keys you’ll prob have to pull bigger yeah :x

[broken mulch]

is this something i should consider for M+ tanking? or do i just always go sacbrood + on use?

[vague abyss]

i dont like how much it can reduce a stat though

imagine losing that much versa in a bad time and instantly exploding

[jagged pier]

i mean that will literally do nothing

so thats fine

loosing haste tho kinda monka

[oak ivy]

Does ignore pain scaling benefit from Foul Behemoth's Chelicera

[jagged pier]

consider it kinda bad tbh, does matter how often the proc is tho

[prisma echo]

Lads, cant find info (or im to stupid) do we have any guide how to properly sim ourselves for m+?

[jagged pier]

u sim ST pretty much

cause thats all the info u need

3-5min ST patchwerk

if u really really want to sim aoe

[prisma echo]

tbh no idea what i want to sim, im doing mostly m+ and want decide which trin to take 😄

[jagged pier]

then its
3-5 targets 1,3,5 min patchwrerk

[jagged pier]

yer so u still basically choose ST for that because our aoe damage isnt the issue

and in m+ aoe damage never is

[prisma echo]

thx ❤️

[jagged pier]

its boss damage

so u generally want to go for whats best ST

[prisma echo]

first thing i sim

i see this message

https://tenor.com/view/im-dead-dead-bruh-skeleton-dead-bruh-skeleton-dead-im-dead-bruh-gif-26854866

[jagged pier]

[peak light]

I see wrist/back/waist are recommended crafts, but when I'm checking raider.io/murlok.io lots of crafts seem to be on weapons/shields, any recommendations/updates?

[jagged pier]

nope still wrists back waist

[graceful kite]

Shield is good if you cant get myth track shield

[carmine zodiac]

Is it worth to spend 45 runed crest to upgrade a shield from 606 to 619 or should I just wait for loot/vault? first time I see a tank with a shield, I dunno how important is this piece

[graceful kite]

Most important

[carmine zodiac]

The block value on it means what? the amount of damage I block on each hit I take? or is it the rating which determine my % block value?

[graceful kite]

Amount of damage you block

Its not the exact number its part of a formula which has strength and block value