protection

[mighty valley]

it's just better damage per gcd than revenge

on single target

so it takes the place of it

[lusty grotto]

this guy

played DF

wrong

holy

[tribal wharf]

90+ rage is emergency rage dump, IP SB

[proper roost]

i mean they probably just didn't play DF prot warrior very seriously

[tribal wharf]

not emergency but its you immediately dump at 90 range rages

[zealous goblet]

i mean i literally started at s4 df so yeah probably

[lusty grotto]

oh no

i remember him

[proper roost]

don't be mean

[zealous goblet]

also it's a little mean please.

[proper roost]

ok you can be mean

[lusty grotto]

and i 100% remember mentioning execute

[zealous goblet]

you probably did, but i was learning a lot and probably forgot

so would you kindly tell me when i'm supposed to use it in my rotation so i can correct myself?

[soft tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/spoingus-pass-the-tuna-down-gif-21178537

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr0TN9fL_R0

oh no, were too late

its already begun

[zealous goblet]

because it is quite literally dead last according to the wowhead guide

[tribal wharf]

it may not look like it but the undead have already begun to spread

[proper roost]

well yeah, spenders come last after generators

[tribal wharf]

this entire meme must be purged

[proper roost]

because IP is off gcd

so the gcd spenders are kind of lower value by default

[lusty grotto]

scatter

this hasnt changed

ss > tc > rev/exe

where

rev/exe means rev ======== exe

its literally the same rotation as we do now

[mighty valley]

i guess the last two steps on the rotation guide are a little confusing

[zealous goblet]

mildly yes

[swift urchin]

Warrior Just zug zug ,SS, SB, IP zug zug , repeat and send it

[lusty grotto]

except you apply execute on ST and prio targets

instead of revenge

[zealous goblet]

then i will adjust

thank you

[swift urchin]

4 targets or less > exe
5 or more RV

[mighty valley]

i doubt it's 4

but also in m+ there's often a prio target

[lusty grotto]

its probably 4 now

[tribal wharf]

is the NW trash from 1 > 2 easier now due to that we have spell block???

[lusty grotto]

since execute is buffed

[tribal wharf]

im curious

i know u can reflect some of it

[zealous goblet]

like i said i literally got the impression it'd be better to fish for shield slam resets with revenge because of the rotational guide. i get it now that it's explained to me, but in my head i was like "oh yeah, revenge uses less rage and is free sometimes so it'll let me get a shield slam which is higher prio and save rage for ignore pain/shield slam which is higher up

[tribal wharf]

and kick like tons of it

[lusty grotto]

yogi have you taken a look at Sense's reflect/blockable/spellblockable sheet?

youve been in this channel too long to NOT have

[mighty valley]

execute can also reset ss, so they just change out at low targets

[tribal wharf]

no, but u say u guys arent afraid of this part of the dungeon, i was back then

[mellow quartz]

It’s still a healing absorb even with spell block for the necrotic bolt casts. The -%hp bleeds are rough and hit hard.

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if it changed a bit more favorably for us for having spell block

[zealous goblet]

ahh this is the crucial piece that i probably missed that would've corrected this behavior sooner. that is entirely my bad

thank you

[mighty valley]

makes sense!

[mellow quartz]

The dangerous parts of NW is the first pull if you go all out and the double pull upstairs. The rest is fine.

[lusty grotto]

i still think they removed the jump from jumpy boys

i havent done a single NW that they've jumped

[tribal wharf]

ya, i remember the trash in section i was saying giving my groups grief

[neon elk]

I havent done a single nw 😦

[mellow quartz]

It feels like it when they changed the trash locations after 2nd boss

[tribal wharf]

and you cant get the robot buff now, i think, i did heroic on ppal

[mellow quartz]

They still jumped on beta

[lusty grotto]

i see

yeah

i member naowh

LOL

[tribal wharf]

what even did they change for NW

[lusty grotto]

anyway we will find out soon enough

[open lake]

is colossus being better after the buff or nah?

[tribal wharf]

cuz i know all the abilities that can happen in that dungeon,

[mellow quartz]

#protection message

You have 3 spears, 2 or 3 shields and 3 silence orbs now only. Spears don’t do a lot of damage but give a 20% damage taken debuff on targets and it stacks (use all spears on 3rd boss).

[tribal wharf]

you can run up the pillar again?

or warlock gate some crap

[lusty grotto]

no

invisible wall

[tribal wharf]

im curious what the drawing was indicating

[mellow quartz]

Those 2 packs changed position

[lusty grotto]

location swaps

[tribal wharf]

that giant skelly boi at the end of the bridge was a bit of a pain in the ass

[mellow quartz]

Big guy guards the stars and the trash pack that was there has been moved up and you can’t skip it without invis

[lusty grotto]

bonestormy is now in the stairs

[mellow quartz]

He is easy though

[lusty grotto]

when he used to be in the middle of that area in SL

yea

[mellow quartz]

He used to patrol

Now just sits there

The real annoyance is the big caster pack

[tribal wharf]

if he dont pat, then its whatever

[mellow quartz]

But you probably just orb it

Orbs don’t do to much damage so mainly for silence

[tribal wharf]

cuz those packs, really, are just kick them into spell locked and group up and blender

[lusty grotto]

do you mean nar'zudah?

[tribal wharf]

thats the one in scared of, that area

[lusty grotto]

that pack is soothable

and shroudable

but

[mellow quartz]

It’s a dispel

[lusty grotto]

seeing as we're gonna need extra %

[tribal wharf]

after the bridge though is the casters packs i mean, there 3 packs that can pull after the bridge corner

tons of casterse in that

[mellow quartz]

You will pull the 2 shield guys into the corner pack to get the spear there

Might end up pulling stuff into the new caster pack afterwards. TBD

[fickle coyote]

guys

dawn/dusk embellish, we cant put those on rings/neck right?

[tribal wharf]

if the entire group runs the white line

that will never pull

[mellow quartz]

Purple won’t pull no

[tribal wharf]

only pulls if u have BM hunter pets warlock

if u do this

[pallid quiver]

The other thing to note is that you still don't want to overspend on execute, since you'll rage starve yourself and have to sit on empty globals, slowing your rage gen. So it's an awkward balancing act, since you want to send as many executes as possible, but you don't want to sit there with your thumb up your ass because you blew all 40 of your rage on execute and didn't get a reset, and TC is seven years from cooling down, no avatar to get it reset, etc

[lusty grotto]

pets dont pull if they arent in combat

[tribal wharf]

mostly its ranged the pull it

that pack is sensitive, and pulls easily

is what i am saying

[lusty grotto]

no

no accesories

it can go on cloak though

[fickle coyote]

yeh, having it crafted on cloak now

thanks 😉

[tribal wharf]

i need to earn runed's so ya

[zealous goblet]

oh btw just to touch base here, we still do ignore into the fray if our haste isnt high enough in the raid build right?

[lusty grotto]

it can go on shield too, so banned items are weapon + neck + ring

[shrewd ore]

I'd always run fray in raid since ur not always tanking

[lusty grotto]

correct

[shrewd ore]

you can still get 40+ secs uptime without it

[lusty grotto]

you run ITF in raid, regardless of haste

[lofty warren]

here the good dungeons that should be s1 the others need to get sent back for redesign

[zealous goblet]

gotcha thanks

[tribal wharf]

u dont like darkflame

[lofty warren]

candles annoying

[astral crystal]

city of threads is real chill

dawnbreaker needs to be deleted though

[proper roost]

rookery is extremely mid

is rookery even in this rotation

it's not

[limber flame]

No

[lofty warren]

at least we all agree dawnbreaker sux

[limber flame]

Lost me at darkflame

[tribal wharf]

i think its fine

[proper roost]

Dawnbreaker is not actually that awful

it's just kind of a worse court of stars

but court of stars is good actually

🙂

[tribal wharf]

yeah on release it was yellow bad

maybe even orange red

but the lime apple green fruit roll up is enough for me to make it yellow ish and not green

after the map fix i am way happier with it but its still a bit of a nightmare to run at times

[quick elk]

thought this could be nice in M+ ? or is this a trap!?

[cold pilot]

It literally doesn't show up on Bloodmallet, at all.

[sleek current]

Huge bait. If that works the way it reads

25k worth of DR is worthless when your health is 9 million. 😂

[quick elk]

if you are getitng hit 70 or 80 times by mobs in big pulls it adds up

[cold pilot]

I'm currently using it but thats cause I cant get an m0 sacbrood

[pallid quiver]

I've also heard it work pre-mit as well, which if that's the case, it's even fucking worse than people are saying

[lofty warren]

No crafted gears sitting on 1990 valorstones

[cold pilot]

I have 2 crafted pieces, 2000 valorstones and 3 of these

[lofty warren]

why burn your gold and shards on crafted

[sleek current]

That's only about 2 million negated, assuming it's a flat DR after mitigation for every single Melee. You can get 2 million back with last stand which most people don't press often enough anyway.

If you've got nothing else, use it but, if you have any damage trinkets it's going to be a much beter choice every time.

[cold pilot]

We'll get more shards.. I crafted a shield which will be a safe bet and i have millions of gold

i also crafted the binding of bindings ring for some socket action and another safe bet

[lusty grotto]

no crafted 🙂

[lofty warren]

wtf 619 ilvl weap

is that even legal

[quick elk]

how do you block ppl on here?

[shrewd ore]

no crafts 🙂

[cold pilot]

That is infinitely too much mastery lol

[lusty grotto]

so?

[quick elk]

yup ill use it, o perhaps wont spend any crest on it though for now .

[lofty warren]

How the fck you all get good weapon

[shrewd ore]

but was kinda waste upgrading it, pretty sure crafted wep with ascension next week is just way better

then don't have to use these shitty 80% embells

[rocky basin]

I'm looking for a discussion on Colossus vs Moutain Thane for prot is there any guides here?

[mighty valley]

i think mountain thane is better

because prot can't be slayer

[lusty grotto]

wowhead.com

[mighty valley]

but yeah take a look at the protection-faq channel on the left

lots of helpful guides

[tropic tangle]

nice heroic luck, I lost the sikran sword with speed to a DK that was playing Unholy

[rocky basin]

Got it thanks

[shrewd ore]

yea didn't get anything on normal and thought week was doomed, but hc loot was good

but i don't think I'll kill queen with randoms this week xd

[tropic tangle]

yeah, I did first 4 in that group, but they weren't gonna go any further

took entirely too many attempts on bloodbound / sikran to even sniff killing beyond rashanan

[shrewd ore]

yea just have to hop around grps and hope ppl are decent

i think the next 3 all took me like 20 pulls

[tropic tangle]

princess and brood don't look bad

[shrewd ore]

ye princess is pretty ez

brood is way harder for randoms

[tropic tangle]

gets easier if you're slapping too, we had people panicking in the middle phase

then it just cascades when you lose 1-2

[shrewd ore]

yea

[tribal wharf]

i went to water works 8 with a team

i totally forgot about the fire breath so that got me 2 or 3 times, other than that, we finished the delve tier 8 boutyful

[neon elk]

How long did i took you?

[tribal wharf]

20 ish minutes, bit less

[lofty warren]

All delves 20 min in party 0% fail. The only exception is the one in North spider zone where you have yo kill 3x running bosses that have unlimited hp

[rain light]

just logged on and it gave me 39 runed crests, weird

[cerulean vessel]

That happened to me too! No idea why lol

[warm plinth]

hax

[tribal wharf]

got a veteran ring

its crit mastery vers some bs

what tier delve, do i need to run, for the great vaut, to drop the next tier, track i guess, past veteran.

[lusty grotto]

8

1 / 4 / 8 delves tier 8

[tribal wharf]

ok, i guess i can run one more 8 delve, i know that water one a little bit now

[lusty grotto]

i think they have to be bountiful tbh

[tribal wharf]

but i dont have the have the delvers bount

i just have to have a key, do it, use key

i think

[robust urchin]

I believe in you yogi you can do it

[shrewd ore]

they dont have to be bountiful for vault

you could just do the same one 8 times

[tribal wharf]

uhh they do, i think

[robust urchin]

No you just need to do them on tier 8

You can do 8 fungal folly s

Which is usually the fastest one

[tribal wharf]

well, i went to normal delve did 8, then i did 8 water

[sick sentinel]

Can i drop ravager and Go for Veteran instead ?

[tribal wharf]

maybe not, ill go run more anyways a couple not too many

[robust urchin]

No that's illegal

[tribal wharf]

its warcrimes even

[shrewd ore]

you can do anything 🙂

[tribal wharf]

small war crimes but warcrimes (of raid)

what about t9 delve

or is it better to do / spam 8 delv

[shrewd ore]

t9 does nothing

[tribal wharf]

technically a bit more crest

gilded for 11 with bounty

[lusty grotto]

no

[hardy snow]

Did anyone encountered issues with tankbuster on nexus-princess? I wasn't sure why it was hiting me quite hard, but then I've checked logs and turns out I couldnt block any hit of that. I've had shield block up but I didn't block any physical hits or magical (when spell block was up). According to Sense's sheet both should be blockable.

[lusty grotto]

hmm

im not sure, you might need to ping sense

it says spell blockable

and void shredders being blockable

im assuming you mean that

[hardy snow]

yea, and thats reasonable, that our mitigation works on tankbuster

yes, void shredders

[lusty grotto]

can you link the log

[hardy snow]

can't, guild have it blocked, but I can show screenshot of events (thats physical part, id 440413)

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[hardy snow]

and it was like that on all pulls, so it wasn't some single turn back or something

[lusty grotto]

could it perhaps be something with WCL?

you're mitigating quite a lot of it

[paper crystal]

Do our BiS trinkets change with the tuning?

[lusty grotto]

i wonder if raw data has more info

and perhaps WCL isnt reading it right

[hardy snow]

I think it's mostly IP (and swarmlord) doing the job, on magic one there isn't much diff between one with spellblock and one without

[lusty grotto]

ill assume that youre spell blocking the dot no problem, at least?

gash

[zealous goblet]

why the fuck is sidearm a choice node with barbarian training

[lusty grotto]

or w/e

[zealous goblet]

what is the design philosophy of this fucking talent

[hardy snow]

yes, block on dot works

[zealous goblet]

is it even used by colossus atleast?

[lusty grotto]

then without seeing the log, i guess you should talk to sense

[sick sentinel]

I mean If i will be super far behind If i dont Take ravager

I dont Like this Button bloat

[robust urchin]

Yes you will

[shrewd ore]

ST no, like 2-3%, aoe yes

[zealous goblet]

veteran is a nice training wheel for mythic+ noobies, i used it a little. there was a build floating around in dragonflight that also had last stand grant shield block. ravager generates so much fucking rage and does so much fucking damage

please do not old yeller ravager

[zealous goblet]

if you really want veteran i assume (ask better players) it'd be better to kill something like focused vigor. (underneath into the fray choice node)

[sick sentinel]

What do you think of taking ravager but dropping spear of might?

[robust urchin]

He just really wants less active buttons to press

[lusty grotto]

if you want less buttons to press, dont play prot warrior

[zealous goblet]

if your goal is to reduce buttons pressed, uhh, fuck, i assume first on the chopping block would be something like rallying cry

but even then i'd shit my pants dropping that

[robust urchin]

Hey man guardian druids require like at least 4 buttons

[sick sentinel]

I Just Stick to my Guardian Druid then

[proud dock]

why am i flung 500 yards in the broodtwitster mobs?

[robust urchin]

You can try paladin

I heard they are excellent this tier

[sick sentinel]

Nah man i found prot interesting but this Button bloat is annoying

[robust urchin]

It's honestly not that bad

[zealous goblet]

not a bad idea. don't conform to the meta, play what you enjoy. unfortunately warrior has too many very important buttons in my experience. the only things i can probably live without is like heroic leap and rallying cry as i said, but emphasis on live without. heroic leap is such a fun mobility skill that's on perma cd for me and the amount of oh shit buttons lets me play foolishly in like, t11 delves and stuff

[dusky sentinel]

Evening peeps. Is there any haste cap this season or should I Just pimp it up? Im at 9k atm

[lusty grotto]

no

[proper roost]

have fun!!!

[zealous goblet]

i noticed we switched to into the fray in df when shield block was like, a 12 sec cd. maybe aim for that before switching off heavy repurcussions? ask nim he's infinitely wiser

[sick sentinel]

Thanks for your Help and words of guidance man 🤝❣️

[zealous goblet]

i'm at 14k and still using heavy repurcussions

[dusky sentinel]

Nim likes to keep it simple

[lusty grotto]

im not trying to grief him, its just the truth

oh

[robust urchin]

Don't be mean

[lusty grotto]

yeah worry about ITF swaps and caps in s2

you cant reach those right now with proper gearing

[dusky sentinel]

True

[lusty grotto]

also it depends on tier itemization in s2

so we will see

[dusky sentinel]

Kinda foolish thinking I was anywhere close anyways 😛

[robust urchin]

I wonder who's gonna be the delve companion in s2. I hope it's Alleria she is so cool and strong and cute

[lusty grotto]

i hope its a kobold

kobolds own

[robust urchin]

They are stinky and dumb

[lusty grotto]

indeed

[robust urchin]

I don't want to be friends with stinky dumb things 😦

[lusty grotto]

its not trash, its treaaaaasurreeeeeeeee

i find new stuff for youuu

[zealous goblet]

do not look below alleria's waistline i have not seen her shower ever

or any character for that matter

[zealous goblet]

brann's unwashed ass

carrier of pox, disease, plague

nergal worshipper looking ass

[robust urchin]

I'm like 99% sure it's gonna be fucking Dagran Mouthbreather

Him and his fucking gen z haircut

[zealous goblet]

"yo this delve is on god not bussin fr"

[robust urchin]

"No cap champion I found some RIZZ shit over here on god here's ur take"

[zealous goblet]

throws a vape pen

[robust urchin]

"Those goblins have OHIO RIZZ NO CAP"

[zealous goblet]

if any azerothian says no cap to me i am throwing them on a land mine stomach first

[lusty grotto]

gyatt

[robust urchin]

"Dead ass homie do not stand in those sticky webs, it's absolutely NOT BUSSIN"

[zealous goblet]

subway surfers creeps up on the lower half of your screen every combat encounter

[rare gust]

reinforced wx plating any good i got it on hero track

[robust urchin]

Bottom half subway surfers top half Family Guy compilation 1083

[zealous goblet]

its aight, ilvl>everything rn

[lusty grotto]

skibidi toilet that cringe gyatt

[rare gust]

figured delves gave me that and a wax canlde for crit

[zealous goblet]

don't worry about optimizations for trinkets until the ilvls are high enough

[lusty grotto]

good answer scatter

good answer

[robust urchin]

"Hey Champion what do you think about my mom? I heard Brann saying she got that GYATT"

[rare gust]

figured ilvl over whatever else but i have a budy sayingits dog shit so

[lusty grotto]

we'll make a man outta you yet

or a woman

[rare gust]

is there a specificpiece to craft ith thesoarks i have or no

[zealous goblet]

i learn. i am becoming a low tier helper. i sponge bath the mods and answer filler questions unworthy of your time

[robust urchin]

Shouldn't you finish with yogi first

[lusty grotto]

nano that aint fucking happening

[robust urchin]

Try harder

[tribal wharf]

yogi already man

bossees are dying and im getting loot

[zealous goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-smirk-shrek-sus-shrek-smile-gif-4983018699107868283

[lusty grotto]

or a neither

sorry, forgot that one

[zealous goblet]

little do you know i'm one minor inconvience away from killing myself at the drop of a hat

[mellow quartz]

Mistcaller
Addressed an issue where Dodgeball was inflicting damage to unintended targets.

damn cant hit the adds with the dodgeball anymore

[zealous goblet]

all it takes is the grocery store to be out of stock for one thing on my list

or for me to stub my toe

[robust urchin]

Based and Warriorpilled

[tribal wharf]

i have to have carry for person to solve the mist boss 2 adds

[mellow quartz]

lol you can get out of the black puddles with a kick now

on last boss in ara kara

easymode

[graceful kite]

healer main mindset

[pallid quiver]

Trinkets are one of the few item types to ignore ilvl due to their unique effects they provide as compared to just stats. Generally, unless you're looking for a defensive trinket, you just have to sim trinkets to see which you should rock. The wax plating one serves almost entirely as a primary stat stick, since its effect is garbage bin level

[robust urchin]

Ara Ara is still too hard for Mouthbreathers

[tribal wharf]

TC out of sticky oil when blizzard

its a slow

slow is cc

[zealous goblet]

i will recommend retail over classic on one fact and one fact alone, fuck whoever decided classic battle shout NEEDS to be 2 minutes

[lusty grotto]

ROFL

[pallid quiver]

Though as a follow up, ilvl is still generally preferred, especially when there's no stand-out amazing trinkets like now

[pallid quiver]

fucking good, actually

[mellow quartz]

they know what is to come!

[tribal wharf]

i told u ppl will learn to hate this dungeon

[pallid quiver]

You're banned from yak'in up like half the time in an outside instance

[tribal wharf]

from the day i first run it

[pallid quiver]

It feels like shit

[robust urchin]

I had to solo arakara last boss from like 80% because my group was full of Russians and they deserved to suffer

[tribal wharf]

arakarar final = skill issue

• team work

so, a functioning brain

[robust urchin]

Not many wow players have that

[zealous goblet]

mythic+ has made me mildly discriminatory

[robust urchin]

Based

[zealous goblet]

if i see like, a brazillian server or something i am overcome with fear

[robust urchin]

Hating French/Russian/Portuguese players is absolutely normal

[zealous goblet]

i wonder how they stereotype us

like off the top of my head in league if you're in NA at all you're worthless and should end it all as a player

[robust urchin]

XXXX-Area52 joins the group

[waxen cradle]

Well fellas just happened again was in a raid group with another warrior on Bloodbound Horror in defensive stance and I ripped aggro and got accused of taunting

[zealous goblet]

unbind all abilities so you dont rip next question

chances are your dps arent doing enough to rip off your autos anyways

[waxen cradle]

lol right

[robust urchin]

Stop refreshing Shield Block

[waxen cradle]

lmao

[zealous goblet]

set grandma on fire so you have a reason to afk mid fight

[pallid quiver]

At least they accused you of taunting instead of saying you need to improve your aggro control or some shit.

[robust urchin]

Most puggers probably don't know it increases SS damage

[waxen cradle]

Oh I am sure

[pallid quiver]

That was my, let's go with favorite, reason for being kicked from a group

[waxen cradle]

no kidding right

[pallid quiver]

People really hold tanking to some mysticism standard

[lusty grotto]

We were talking about this earlier

[waxen cradle]

other tank btw was doing 92k I was doing about 200k LMAO

[robust urchin]

"Tanking is the hardest part of the game" every tank to make himself important so he doesn't get replaced

[tribal wharf]

same with healers

"U LITERAELLY CANT DO CONTENT WITHOUT US!!"

every healer

[waxen cradle]

Me in 7th the other tank Tonno lmao

[strong forum]

Fury when trying to do ST

[robust urchin]

Fury nerfs prematurely applied I see

[tribal wharf]

i have a feeling that now that people are seeing 1 million dmg taken, done or healed in a single action, they get an ego about them selves

[robust urchin]

It's so over fury bros

[waxen cradle]

lol

[tribal wharf]

thats my conspiracy

[waxen cradle]

no just really bad fury

[strong forum]

Na, fury Mains will try to convince you that's how their spec is now

That's how big 3% are

[tribal wharf]

did he died maybe?

[robust urchin]

It's actually 13%

If you consider the OF and Bladestorm nerf

[strong forum]

Good

[warm plinth]

Your mom's a fury main

GOTTEM

[robust urchin]

More like a furry main

[waxen cradle]

damn shots fired

[robust urchin]

Lmao

[strong forum]

Nah she'd prolly play druid or hunter

[pallid quiver]

It was really funny peeking into Fury chat after the 2nd nerf hit

[tribal wharf]

usually if i go into LFR and my dps is that bad its cuz i ate a fuck load of stuns

go as fury i m ean

[robust urchin]

Don't eat them before going into lfr yogi

[pallid quiver]

Now? Ego? WoW players don't need things like that for ego. They'll simply have an ego and anything that challenges that is shit, stupid, etc. Though using much harsher words.

[tribal wharf]

i dont tank raids much these days

[robust urchin]

I remember in legion I was tanking for this guild and the GM/RL/MT was also a prot

Who according to him was absolutely the best prot on the server

Dude got so incredibly mad that I got mage Tower before him he benches me for 2 ids

[robust urchin]

"Trying out a few people to see if 2 different tanks is better"

[tribal wharf]

thats a nice 61 gold

[robust urchin]

Fucking Guy

[tribal wharf]

ofc, its 603 too, so its ilvl

huge ilvl, + 90k hp :S

[wind prawn]

Umm I don't think i am suposed to be getting these right?

[shrewd ore]

afaik you get those from map chests

[dusky canopy]

Yes you can get them from tier 8 maps

[robust urchin]

You can get those from map delves

[wind prawn]

Well, that is where i got them so that makes sense. I just thought it was wierd to get Mythic raid crests when teh raid is not out yet

[long cedar]

welp

[robust urchin]

85 gold is 85 gold

[long cedar]

610 though fuck me

[robust urchin]

A/s/l?

[tribal wharf]

what should i know about cavern delve

hallowfall

[robust urchin]

All the delves are the same yogi

They are tedious and boring

[tribal wharf]

well, what in there would kill a yogi

i stood in the breathe fire 3 times in waterwork

we made it apperently

[tribal wharf]

if its circles on the ground im usually okay

[pastel summit]

Brann buffies when

[tribal wharf]

pizza mechanics i can do,, sometimes

[pastel summit]

Trueeee.

[tribal wharf]

oohhhhhhh i didnt like this one lol

i might go to another one after seeing yt of it

[sick sentinel]

Do Protection Warriors use rend? Not a single Guide mentions it in the Rotation

[shrewd ore]

tclap applies rend

[sick sentinel]

Ay thx

[tribal wharf]

bail?, i bailed, i dont really know what that means, but it sure looks like bad omen to me. used up revive maybe?

[lusty grotto]

It just means you won't get full rewards

If it was bountiful for them, it won't be for you

[tribal wharf]

ya, i logged out for a minute

im sure they kicked me by now

[lusty grotto]

Why not just leave

[warm plinth]

The awkward moment when you log back in and they're just staring at you

But yeah, just leave

[lusty grotto]

I fucking hate people that dc , just leave Jesus Christ it's not hard

I consider it worse than just straight up leaving

By a lot

[inland raft]

Its an mmo just say grandmas on fire and leave its easy

[lusty grotto]

Yeah

You have to play that "wait 5 mins" game and it's just awful

[proud dock]

does heroic throw gen as much aggro as taunt?

trying to fgiure out how to easily pick up spiders in brood

[pallid quiver]

taunt doesn't generate aggro

It forces something to attack you and dramatically boosts your threat gains against the target

For a realistic answer to your question, if a DPS starts blasting it,

no heroic throw will not generate enough aggro to pull a spider to you

[bleak breach]

I just play mountain thane for that fight and held a thunder blast for them

Also was getting 25-30mil extra damage on silken council p1 by holding the spider chick and spell reflecting her poison bolts

[tribal wharf]

as long as this delve i did counts for vault i dont care

[bleak breach]

Handy help for anyone progging her

[toxic pewter]

other prot warr in my heroic queen pug playing bolster over spell block..

wat the fuk..

[bleak breach]

Nooooooooo

[toxic pewter]

what is going on here

[tribal wharf]

apb stuck in purgatory again

[tribal wharf]

sigh, log it if you can i guess

[bleak breach]

Was fighting for my life on Brood lastnight

440khps

[proud dock]

yeah i gues si have to hold on to TB

does it gen aggro as soon as the model appears?

[bleak breach]

Easiest way I found to do it

[proud dock]

or do i have to wait for the nameplate to show before aggro gens?

[bleak breach]

Honestly unsure, I just popped it once I saw nameplate

[proud dock]

ok ill try that

[bleak breach]

Generally you tank the boss near 2 eggs and only need to grab 1 anyway, so I’d passively aoe the 2 near me and either taunt or leap to the other.

[tribal wharf]

so at least one item from vault can be a hero this week

[bleak breach]

Leap to add, tc, maybe shield slam then charge back to boss.

[proud dock]

ive been SC and taunting them to be safe

people apprently get it before i do and insta die

[tribal wharf]

imma gettin 616 candle leech

[bleak breach]

If you currently have the boss and aren’t near tank buster you can distrusting shout

[tribal wharf]

so, vault caps at t8 delves ya

i might be ble to run 2 delves, but i think this might be okay

tool tip doesnt tell me how many dungeons or delves i ran

[sage pollen]

guys do we actually have to go crit this season?

[delicate remnant]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/solo-delves-nerfed-again-hp-of-bosses-and-elites-346708

[lusty grotto]

We've gone crit all seasons, except BFA S4 with versatile corruption

If you versa andy'd in the past you were gearing wrong

I guess the only very specific fight that could have favored versa over crit was star augur outside of BFA shenanigans

But that was just one fight... In legion

[sage pollen]

Oh my bad I guess

I always did haste versa

[lusty grotto]

We're not bears

[sage pollen]

Ok I guess

[lusty grotto]

Versa isn't bad, nor should you auto vendor items with it. Mastery isn't bad either, all stats are good, we just slightly favor crit after haste

But ilvl is, by far and wide, king

[pastel summit]

Lovely.

[delicate remnant]

Apparently Brann was nerfed more

"For me in tank spec I don't see much of a difference in his DPS, but I do see they have changed his AI making him quite the #$%^&*! to play with."

[lusty grotto]

Lol that doesn't mean anything

Is that a wowhead comment? It feels like one

So brann did not, in fact, get nerfed

[pastel summit]

I mean he's awful and dies insta to aoe but idk if that's a recent change

Last boss in fungal 1-bangs him on cd, so does waxface

[lusty grotto]

Just some random saying feely things

[pastel summit]

no matter where I tank him he jumps in

[pastel summit]

Yerrr.

[lusty grotto]

Brann does what he wants lol

[sage pollen]

Thanks for your help bro

[lusty grotto]

[neon fossil]

Seeing alot of Pwar's crafting 619 wep and shields. Am I missing something in the embellishment section of the FAQs?

[lusty grotto]

No

Just players doing whatever

[toxic pewter]

they crafting stuff

[neon fossil]

I mean must be something to it right now. The top warrior on logs for Ansurek is blast 200k more than the next Pwar?

[toxic pewter]

most people dont just wait around like we do

lol

[lusty grotto]

Addicted to blowing sparks

[lusty grotto]

"the top warrior"

In... Heroic raid?

[toxic pewter]

that is me i am top warrior

[lusty grotto]

There is nothing

[neon fossil]

top warrior in current max content, yes.

[lusty grotto]

Big weapon translates to big damage

That's it

He will go down this next week

[shrewd ore]

You can either do ascendance + double effect or double dawnthread both are basically the same

[lusty grotto]

You're not missing anything

[shut summit]

he also has done the boss over 50 times on heroic

and is hardcore padding on adds

so

[lusty grotto]

We don't hide new developments

[cerulean tusk]

Logs and gold, the dream

[lusty grotto]

They are posted and pinned

Always

And guides are updated, in the case of those in particular

[proud dock]

does kyvesa drop a rift on one of the tanks as well?

[lusty grotto]

Yes

[proud dock]

active tank, right

[lusty grotto]

It's one of the tanks mechanics

[shut summit]

yes

active tank

[proud dock]

idky i missed that somewhere

[lusty grotto]

Sense, did you jawors message

[shut summit]

he messaged me ye

[lusty grotto]

Kk

[neon fossil]

wouldnt have thought double dawnthread would have been good due to the 80% health

[shrewd ore]

Normally ur not really sitting at low health

it's break even at like 60% uptime

[neon fossil]

Also just got this. whats the best way to use this?

[toxic pewter]

interesting trinket

I guess try and freeze when both are at 15

[proud dock]

for kyveza on h, shld u take all 4 stacks or can u taunt half way thu?

[toxic pewter]

i think you take all 4

thats how i did it and you should have shield wall for each one anyway

not sure taunting half way even works

[tropic tangle]

I think the dot stacks would overlap

If you tried to split.

[tribal wharf]

B

better for a dk or paladin, hoping its not complete garbo tier for them

[primal narwhal]

what addon is it that gets u the purple font like that?

[cerulean tusk]

W98 effects

[vocal flame]

Can you adopt me?

[tribal wharf]

should i hold onto radiant echo do they go away end of week or tied to weekly

i have 4 of them

delves were done,

[lament zealot]

What's our bis wep enchant? I can't find it on Wowhead guide

[tribal wharf]

depths or radiant

its there

i promise

[lament zealot]

I guess I'm stupid, sorry for the dumb question, thank you for answering it. Appreciate you.

[tribal wharf]

i believe the logic is depths is for aoe, keys and delv i guess

radiant for st?

[vocal flame]

They don’t go away. The more you use on each attempt the better the loot. It’s not good tho. Too much investment for minimal return

[tribal wharf]

i would ask around second opinion, especially if raider, im not much of raid

if you are raider, sim both

[tribal wharf]

i think i recall the issue i saw with them was they didnt quite last long enough

[warm plinth]

Enchants are listed in the consumables section

[primal tulip]

if i want to grab intimidating shout what do i drop here?

@ me

[vocal flame]

I have had mine since a week after launch. Only used 1 have 6 I think.

[south zealot]

intervene or bounding stride

[vocal flame]

Unless they changed it Yogi. Thats possible

Do you actually use intervene?

[primal tulip]

yes

[bleak breach]

Take all 4, it’s gonna hurt a lot. Spell block and reflect one. Shield wall, last stand and spell reflect the next. D stance while taking debuff

If you blow nothing you’ll just get nuked

[toxic pewter]

Pretty sure I had shield wall up for each one I took

[proud dock]

yeah SW seems to be up each time

[south zealot]

drop bounding stride then, nothing really else to drop

[primal tulip]

done, ty sir

[toxic pewter]

Kyveza shredded this bear I was tanking with

Was hilarious

[bleak breach]

Yeah, should be very close if not. It hurts though haha

[south zealot]

if you really want bounding stride you can drop frothing berserker if youre mountain thane

[proud dock]

other than DBM/BW, do you guys use any other addon/ WA package, to help time tank abilities to pop defensives? or are yall just looking at the DBM/BW bars?

[toxic pewter]

With proper play sw cooldown is so sweet these days

That 6 sec cdr every ss is badass

[bleak breach]

I just grab bigwigs plus the basic wa raid package until the liquid one is out

[vocal flame]

Good call!

[bleak breach]

Emphasise anything tank related on big wigs and put timers on stuff

[brittle grove]

we opening our vaults tomorrow as prot?

[toxic pewter]

I am personally

I need a shield

[elfin cedar]

am i misreading the engineering potion tinker or is it strictly worse than just drinking a health potion?

[sly lodge]

Quick question for something that knows, what are the round about stats we need? Like, do we want nothing but haste crit=verse atM

Or do I just go Haste Crit

[proud dock]

oooo i didnt tihnk to use the countdown function on BW

[toxic pewter]

That tinker isn’t meant to be better as far as I can tell. Sort of just gives you a never ending potion I guess

Maybe a little stronger but not much

But can be a lot stronger I guess if you mitigate the magic damage portion you take from using it

[sly lodge]

His answer wasn't meant for me

[elfin cedar]

so is there a preferred tinker? I made an engineering wrist and i'm kind of struggling to find one worth using for it

[sly lodge]

Still curious of any help at all.

[toxic pewter]

Oh oops I replied to wrong dude my b

[elfin cedar]

my other prof is alchemy so i don't really need the reusable health/invis pots

[toxic pewter]

I mean just get as good of ilvl as you can

[cerulean tusk]

Just pump haste, then whatever mix of crit and Vers you can get. Don't worry about anything really.

[rigid yew]

If an item doesn't have mastery on it, just vendor it.

[cerulean tusk]

Full mastery/Vers collu 1% crit dream enjoyer

[proud dock]

is it bad turning off all the notification on BW for a boss other than tank stuff? like i dont need audio to notify me of stuff i can see?

[cerulean tusk]

Your call, if ya ain't leading feel free to live by the mantra: not my job, not my problem
Turn it off

[proud dock]

yeah i feel like i get bombarded by noise thats distraction me rather than helping

[prime garden]

Is there a sheet out there with the gains of our tier set? 2pc and 4pc

[lone current]

There is this one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/htmlview#
Not sure if there is another floating around.

there's been a lot of tuning going on too, so not sure how up to date these sheets are

[prime garden]

goddamn it seems pretty underwhelming

[rigid yew]

dev evoker 4pc +12%
prot war +2%

[round pendant]

why do they just refuse to fix rogue bugs

[rigid hull]

w8 is thane striaght up better than colossus now?

since they buffed it

[pallid quiver]

In practical senses, it was always better

Colossus was only notably better on padding AOE damage,

[rigid hull]

what about damage was

wise*

[pallid quiver]

and the Thane buff is not at all close enough to catch up

[pallid quiver]

this

[rigid hull]

i see

it just doenst make any sense to play colossus xd

am i right

[pallid quiver]

Unless you're doing M+ keys that pose literally zero threat to your health, pretty much

[rigid hull]

ye

it never happens? unlesss u are farming content

[lone current]

only if you want to pad stats and parse higher 😉

[tardy dagger]

Sorry guys, clown question. What gem should I be socketing here?

[rigid hull]

somtin haste i guess

[lone current]

You get really rage starved with colossus which can leave you pretty vunerable at times

Culminating Blasphemite if you don't have one yet, it's our unique mainstat gem, otherwise Deadly Emerald or Quick Ruby depending on if you prefer haste > crit or crit > haste

[tardy dagger]

🫡

[misty oxide]

Not sure if it’s in the pins, but what does one shieldy boy want to craft with his spark of omens?

[small comet]

What embellishments do we want on crafted gear?

[sweet seal]

Hello are there any breakpoints for haste that we know of?

[sweet summit]

there are but it's not something to stress about.
ilvl>>haste>crit>=vers>mast or just sim

[jaunty rune]

Hey - I had an intervene question.

If I get a physical damage taken increase from a raid boss and then intervene my co-tank to give him the magic damage absorb will the autos that are redirected to me be amplified or normal?

[cosmic canyon]

Mastery is bis guys

[thin silo]

they will absolutely splatter you

[cosmic canyon]

@strong forum ❤️

which 'crit' adds to parry? only from gear, including trinkets yea?

[jaunty rune]

Excellent to know, guess I won't be trying that - thank you.

[sweet summit]

any crit and strength rating, not % increases

[cosmic canyon]

finding these in high enough iL should be good yea? I mean the spelunker often has an uptime of 40% + in dungeons

[cosmic canyon]

cheers

[sweet summit]

they seem alright, i'm not sure how strong delve trinkets are compared to dungeon trinkets. might have to be a sim question i'm afraid

[cosmic canyon]

dunno if iL is 'capped' lower than raid max on them as we go and that might be why they're not mentioned

[sweet summit]

could be ye

[graceful kite]

Bloodmallet

[blazing forge]

not entirely sure if this is protection related but right now im at 570 ili as prot, what would be the best way to get me ready for mythic0?

[cosmic canyon]

do some t8 delves and open the major chest in the end after that; create your own groups and invite people. you're very able to tank with 570 iL. Just gotta keep them defensives up, sb etc.

[blazing forge]

any delve in parcitular, never done one

[jagged pier]

yah need to do your bountiful delves at tier 8

[graceful kite]

Go into them

At 570 you can do all m0 content

Delves are nice too

[blazing forge]

oh alright, yeah just kinda nervous first time protection or hell even tanking

[graceful kite]

I did all m0 in around 565ish and 540 shield was alright

[blazing forge]

did lfr, but lfr is lfr lol

[graceful kite]

Press shield slam on cd, press ignore pain at 70 rage, always keep avatar and demo shout on cooldown and use something extra all the time

And shield block on cd too yeah

[blazing forge]

alright sounds like what ive been doing, watched a couple videos and the method guide on their site

[tardy dagger]

Idk about that. Maybe I’m being extra but I think M0 should be 580 minimum.

[jagged pier]

its about personal comfort 570 is fine

[graceful kite]

I did them with 0 problems and half of them went without a healer

[sand pebble]

nah mastery isnt bis, that trinket just provides such a huge chunk of it that its great - if you stack mastery and hit that trinket your in the DR territory

[graceful kite]

Just press you stuff and shield slam bad guys stuff will cool down faster and you can press it again

[onyx pike]

606ilvl, 30% Mastery, 10% haste 💀 I'm cooked.

[graceful kite]

Lucky guy

[onyx pike]

I would pref 30% haste

[graceful kite]

I'm 599 after all week's content

[onyx pike]

i got lucky with hero items from delves i guess

[limber kraken]

Hello guys any one know if same emblishment stack or not?

I mean can i have 2 critical above 80% emblishment at same time ?

[void heath]

you can, yes

their stat benefits will add together

[slate kestrel]

have only 598 ilvl but same problem... every delve piece did get mastery on it, feels horrible 🙄

[neon elk]

Anybody else had recentpy issues with brann doing no dmg ?

[violet ginkgo]

high crit maybe?

[graceful kite]

it was "fixed" and now it sucks

he was unintentionally scaling with delve level

[neon elk]

I know they fixed him, but he is literaly doing nothing, i dont see him in my dmg meter even, i see him using his rapid fire or throwing hammers from gryfon, but when im not dmging mobs HP doesnt even move , same with traps , boss had 5stacks and he was geting dmg from my rend only ...

[graceful kite]

not sure about that, I did a couple today but haven't noticed

[neat crow]

600 here but missing HC clear. Managed to get over 20% haste still with swarmlords authority + sacbrood lmao and boosted my shield up to like 610 or so

[pastel summit]

Uh, he can not show up on details or w/e because he's a pet or something.

[neon elk]

Its like he only does his spells visualy

[pastel summit]

I've had him very rarely do minimal or no damage.

[neon elk]

Ive had him there ubtil like 2-3 days ago, showed as pet in my dmg

[neat crow]

Tbh I think double haste trinkets is probably better than most during gearing phase for "feel" over anything else and for some reason they sim better together for me rn than sacbrood and skarmorak shard

[uneven abyss]

what are u guys crafting? Just Wrist/Feet/Waist?

[autumn pawn]

I was thinking wep/shield

[swift urchin]

Shield for sure, maybe weapon

[onyx pike]

14% :kekw

I'm literally full mastery

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

crit block expert

[supple osprey]

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

its over

what are t htese stats

[sweet summit]

primary and secondary stats from the hit game world of warcraft

why do i have so little strength am i getting owned

[supple osprey]

Low ilvl probably

[dense tartan]

Is it possible to only main prot warrior and no other specs for high keys, or should I level up an arsenal and be flexible? I’m quite time limited 😁

Tankspecs**

[blazing condor]

i mean what are you looking to achieve

if you wanna do RWF keys and raid

[pallid quiver]

If you're rocking anything else, traditionally, it's another tank class, but like ^^^

[blazing condor]

the top prot warr usually sits 1-2 key levels below the world first keys

[autumn pawn]

Playing some of the other tanks it does feel like warriors can mitigate the most dmg. I have not tried BDK, they look strong too

[graceful kite]

it's not a feeling it's a fact

[jagged pier]

i mean its the only tank that works on pure mitigation

so yer

thats what it does

[sweet summit]

i'm 603

[jagged pier]

higher than my chars

[graceful kite]

imagine looting any 610 delve items

[supple osprey]

[jagged pier]

yer got 3 cloaks

[graceful kite]

I got like umm

6? but 603

[sweet summit]

nah but 7k strength

am I trolling

[blazing condor]

bro specced intellect

[sweet summit]

clearly not (i have the stupid)

[blazing condor]

maybe u have a cloak of coordination on

[sweet summit]

i don't...

[blazing condor]

sus!

[sweet summit]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/turalyon/ergaw help

[stoic pilot]

missing like 2800 str from being 1/2 armored to the teeth

[sweet summit]

OH RIGHT I TRIED ROAR

thank you king 🫡

[blazing condor]

bro was armored to one tooth

[stoic pilot]

lmao np

[dark plover]

What ilvl shield can we craft this week?

[distant ivy]

619 with runed crests

[violet ginkgo]

Poorman Prot War. Or rather unlucky loot prot war.

[lucid nimbus]

We aim for shield before upgrading anything else?

[jagged pier]

are u likely to get a myth track sheild? if yes, u dont craft a shield

[neon elk]

I will get shield in my first vault right after i craft it at max ilvl

[toxic pewter]

anyone killed first boss of raid on mythic yet i know he drops a shield

edit: err not open yet nvm lmao

[sweet summit]

i haven't seen a single vault pic so idk if reset had happened

[lofty warren]

what is max ilvl from delve row in vault AFTER this week?

[sweet summit]

same as this week no?

[jagged pier]

max delve is 616 gear doesnt ever change

[plain token]

What bracket is the 616? Still hero gear?

[jagged pier]

ye

[plain token]

Good.

[long stone]

So shield would be 616 craft too Right

[neon elk]

619 is max hc craft

[toxic pewter]

does warcraft logs show taunts

[visual crane]

we have 3 crafted items next week or still 2 and have a half

for the week after

[long stone]

Thx ❤️

[distant ivy]

Half/week i guess

So this week will be 2.5

[visual crane]

yep so in 7-8 days we can make a new items

sweet 🙂

[jagged pier]

well u can find when ppl cast it

[toxic pewter]

right I want to see if someone clicke taunt or not

[jagged pier]

go to their casts

[toxic pewter]

Ok I will find it thank you

[jagged pier]

and see when they press or didnt press taunt

[waxen frigate]

Jakey taunt off me pls

Jakey I’m dying

Jakey ;-;

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[waxen frigate]

This is nish’s mom. Jakey you killed my son. My baby boy. How could you. My son

[sand pebble]

do we have a spell reflect sheet/weak aura for delves?

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/french-tounge-holygrail-gif-5715318

[waxen frigate]

Yeah it’s called get reflect eaten by one of thirty web bolts being cast nonstop

🙂

[sand pebble]

wasmessing about trying to reflect this - dont appear to be able to

[toxic pewter]

XD in an early morning heroic queen pug and the leader is having a major meltdown in discord right now

'IVE SPENT 9 HOURS ON THIS BOSS AND IM STILL IN PHASE 1'

LOL

[jagged pier]

yer dont know why you would try and pug queen and court week one

[bleak breach]

^

[jagged pier]

both actually need ppl to know what to do

[toxic pewter]

pugs are killing her

[bleak breach]

Not worth the drama

Just wait a couple of weeks

[jagged pier]

sure pugs with 4 ppl who know what to do

probably 6 so u have backups for mechanics

[toxic pewter]

this dude calling everyone 'f'ing r words' right now LOL

[bleak breach]

How many hours you reckon you’ve spent in pug raid this week apb

[toxic pewter]

LOL

a lot LOL

[bleak breach]

@jagged pier did you get Aotc this week?

[jagged pier]

No

Im in a 2 day guild

Next week tho

[bleak breach]

In a day?

Ohhh

[cerulean tusk]

Why no? U bad? Why u bad

[jagged pier]

Yes bad

Also cba

[cerulean tusk]

Why

[toxic pewter]

ngl this raid I have seen some of the worst pug tanks in my wow career. like the quality has truly gone down a lot

[jagged pier]

Shaman unfun

Raid unfun

[bleak breach]

Yeah I jumped up to the ce team in my guild, but we’re only doing 2 days a week 2.5hours each

[cerulean tusk]

Princess was fun

[bleak breach]

Try to stop burn out

[toxic pewter]

I am enjoying this raid personally I think its a solid raid

[jagged pier]

Good for u not enjoy a single raid fight myself

[grizzled hinge]

you go with brann healer or dps?

[jagged pier]

Dps

Always

[graceful kite]

dps

[bleak breach]

We got 6/8, nearly killed silken court but ran out of time, no biggy should get Aotc next week.

[long stone]

Does the buff for raid start next id ?

[sick sentinel]

so noob question. i've seen alot of ppl post stats about 30+mastery? do prot warriors not go for haste/crit/vers/mas?

[bleak breach]

Buff?

[jagged pier]

They are just equiping their highest ilvl

Which u should do

[bleak breach]

Only buffs are in mythic

[sick sentinel]

yes ofc. but in normal terms we would aim for those stats right?

[jagged pier]

We aim for strength

[graceful kite]

haste>crit>=vers>mastery

[long stone]

Yeah 3% buff

Severed strands

[graceful kite]

higher ilvl always better except for that great delve shield

with no stats

[jagged pier]

Stats have very little effect on anything compared to playing correctly

[lime mantle]

Haste has a big effect (on my enjoyment)

[sick sentinel]

is there a sweetspot to stop on?

[jagged pier]

No thats still better than a lower ilvl one

Because of block

[graceful kite]

I wouldn't swap if it was a low gain

[toxic pewter]

what delve shield

[shy python]

Try heal. He got insane buffs. You don‘t have to kick or CC anything anymore

[jagged pier]

I dont have an issue in delves at all

[bleak breach]

Once he’s decent ilvl he just 2 shots stuff anyway

[long stone]

Got the delve shield at 610 :D… Bit no wpn or smth

[toxic pewter]

oh is that from delves

[jagged pier]

Why the fuck would i have him go healer when im not dying

[supple osprey]

kinda boring killing adds couple years with healer brann i think

[jagged pier]

Its not a low gain more block is the highest gain u can get

[toxic pewter]

im so pissed I didnt get zekvir ?? before brann nerfs

[sick sentinel]

do we stop aiming for haste after 30%?

[shy python]

I heard dps Brann is now pretty garbadge

[toxic pewter]

yeh bran suck ass

[supple osprey]

still helps a bit

[sand pebble]

haste gets better the more you havew

[jagged pier]

U needed to do it like before the inital delve changes, its all fucked atm

[toxic pewter]

yah I mean like really early

[jagged pier]

40% unbuffed

[toxic pewter]

i was there doing it too but just didnt get it

[sick sentinel]

thanks

[sick sentinel]

what about crit?

[supple osprey]

i got him pre delve nerf by 70+ pulls

[jagged pier]

As much as u want

[toxic pewter]

damn nice

[sick sentinel]

thank u sir, new to this prot warrior

[toxic pewter]

wat u all crafting this week

[cerulean tusk]

PvP 2h

[sand pebble]

wait brans campfire gives 5% str????

[cerulean tusk]

Never knew, neat, now back to getting 1tapped

[supple osprey]

was 10 iirc

[bleak breach]

Wrists boots I think

Is max craft ilvl still lower then myth rank ilvl?

[toxic pewter]

yes by like 3 ilvls iirc

[neon elk]

Yea its 3ilvl lower, so not a big deal for most players

[tribal wharf]

my brann is something around lvl 20s

prbobably could have weekly capped his exp if i did 4 more delve

[graceful kite]

is there a weekly cap?

I had brann 38 on friday I think

[jagged pier]

that is season cap i believe

[waxen frigate]

Isn’t there an achiever for level 60 brann

[jagged pier]

maybe

[waxen frigate]

Or are they timegating it

[jagged pier]

[blazing forge]

Do you guys know of any discord or something similar to find a guild?

[sand pebble]

can zevkir be killed 592 ilvl with a level 20 bran?

or am i wasting my time

[supple osprey]

? tier doable

?? seems like wasting time

[astral crystal]

there's a recruitment discord that's pretty active

[blazing forge]

got a link, and thanks :d

[waxen frigate]

NA or EU

[sand pebble]

ty

[blazing forge]

NA

[waxen frigate]

Different methods for different regions

[waxen frigate]

Yeah I’ll dm you the link one sec

Or am I able to post it here hmmge

https://discord.gg/recruitment-community-na-oc-246097056958119944

[vague abyss]

when making the crafted gear, is worth to just use r2 mats and just worry about recrafting it later when r3 gets cheaper?

[waxen frigate]

Nice okay

[waxen frigate]

Depends. Are you trade chat ordering?

See what deals you can get and how much it actually matters

[vague abyss]

like asking in trade chat? yes

[tribal wharf]

how my blasphemous 2 is going

[waxen frigate]

Yeah I’d say shop around and talk to crafters

[blazing forge]

thanks ili be giving a look

[waxen frigate]

No point buying r3 if you can’t get 5* anyway

[solid cargo]

My plums are getting tingly waiting to slam some keys

It's been too long

[waxen frigate]

Delete this freak

[solid cargo]

[jagged yacht]

How good is colossus for delves?

[waxen frigate]

Worse than thane

[urban bane]

you can do 11s as either, play what youd like

[green bronze]

in which spec you are going to open your vault guys? Do we go for DPS trinkets or do we hope for shield/1h?

[indigo scaffold]

anybody tried soloing zekvir ?? as prot war after the delve and brann nerfs?

[green bronze]

im pretty sure i have seen video of prot warr doing zekvir even before nerfs

[indigo scaffold]

yeah i was talking about after cause it seems impossible to do now after the changes

[tribal wharf]

i think my vault is pretty much as good as its going to get right now eh

id have to do a norma boss, dunno if i could pug boss 1 normal :S

[green bronze]

you can do a few more t8 delves to get 3 options

[green bronze]

normal raid is free, especially on tank, join some alt run if you have time

[tropic tangle]

this is probably a socket week, since you're going to be able to infinitely farm heroic track gear and that's the best you'll get from vault this week

[green bronze]

but i don't think you need normal raid cause you will be taking the delve option anyway

[tribal wharf]

i might go with ilvl piece, i missed some memo and im 590 stil not 600 like some elite players

[green bronze]

thats what i was thinking, but then i thought maybe there is a certain trinkets that we just wouldn't wanna pass on, or tier set maybe

[tribal wharf]

im probably 591, got a neck

ring

593, nvm

i should run COT for larynx veteran track

[tropic tangle]

hero track sacbrood may be worth, or one of the heroic raid items that are contested

like sikran neck

[green bronze]

you should not care about veteran track items, just do bountiful delves and upgrade some of your items to avoid overcapping valorstones

[tropic tangle]

shield or weap maybe as well, but all just depends

[green bronze]

could sikran neck drop this week?

like i only did 4 bosses in HC, is there a possibility that it will be in my vault?

[tropic tangle]

if you killed any boss beyond sikran, you could get the neck in vault on hero track

or if you killed sikran

[green bronze]

damn, that is very good news, will be hoping for that neck. It actually dropped for my pug raid this week but healer won it(

[tribal wharf]

is first boss zero mechanics as dps normal? i might try to sneak in as fury get carried on it, i did it on lfr as fury,

died when i got the tentacle shit on me

[graceful kite]

normal and lfr have same mechanics

[tribal wharf]

cuz i didnt know how many times it goes off before stopping, or how far to go, or what it would do if i stood in it