protection

[proper roost]

i mean

i think you definitely know better than to stand in those

[solid sun]

I can do double and a few triples in m0 and haven’t felt overly threatened. Shield Wall and most of the big threats are dead by the time it ends

[tribal wharf]

im not sure why we wiped the first time, but dps died to something, it isnt i have to taunt the adds right? cuz they get eaten by boss?

[waxen frigate]

They get fixated

You can’t taunt them. Dps need to kite and kill and you need to keep boss away

[solid sun]

Def don’t let boss eat them

Big no no

[tribal wharf]

damn, weird, crazy we even had a frost mage doing the whole 9 yards entire salesman briefcase of frost spells

and then dps died, we tried again and i got clapped

[dusky canopy]

[remote tusk]

I should start logging myself 😢

[tribal wharf]

ubt ya, i watched the wow offical YT video with dratnos on the dungeon and i saw kick, poision, summons adds, whatever

sure ez

nop

[round pendant]

I genuinely do not understand people saying frost > unholy

can someone explain this to me

frost gets gigacucked from having to lose uptime and these dungeons are miserable for melee uptime

[tribal wharf]

i am extremely too stupid to play as unholy

learning unholy dk is literal unobtanium for me

i can read the guide 100 times i can talk to a person on voice chat while doing it, never ever makes senes

[mighty valley]

they don't play breath for m+ right

so uptime loss isn't as disastrous

[round pendant]

It's still brutal

[tribal wharf]

mostly when i see fdk it is the spiky ground ice line

[round pendant]

and with all the moving and losing giant portions of ground

[mighty valley]

fury "suffers from uptime loss" too and they're still doing well

[proper roost]

Melee dpsers all lie about how bad uptime loss

is

[round pendant]

D&D recharge is too slow, pillar of frost is a pretty short CD so every second lost attacking is tragic

[tribal wharf]

fury better than arms i figure

[proper roost]

[round pendant]

I think frost is good if you can just sit on the pack, better than unholy

but the moment you have to move away, unholy wins by a landslide

[tribal wharf]

i always thought arms is a little dumb unless you are talking about giga MS/ exec

big fat gigantic critical MS spam, and im there

[mighty valley]

unholy stinky, ergo i will never play it

[tribal wharf]

i mean, look unholy is for gigachads exclusively

[round pendant]

unholy isn't hard

Yeah you can say frost is better cause it's easier

but I'm talking pure numbers man

these dungeons seem to just shit on frost

[proper roost]

does unholy not have the same D&D scourge strike split thing that frost has with oblit cleave?

[round pendant]

yeah it does, but their D&D also recharges twice as fast

[tribal wharf]

mere mortal brains are not capable of grasping warlocks or dragons or uhdk

[proper roost]

eiether way this doesn't really seem like the place to whinge about dps

esp

dk

literally pwar channel 🤔 dunno who even plays dps dk at a reasonable level here

and if they play it as like a 5th alt that they do weeklies with, their opinion on dps dk is meaningless

[plush tendon]

you can play either, but Breath has a higher ceiling then shattering but requires your group to play around it more

[mighty valley]

i do agree with kanga that "there's no melee uptime" is often code for "we're playing badly" but i didn't play these dungeons on beta so who knows

[crisp lagoon]

I want colossus to be better

[waxen frigate]

Breath FDK is not lying about it

[proper roost]

nah idk melee DPS are just fucking whingers

EVERY SINGLE melee dps is like

[waxen frigate]

If you aren’t actively able to spend runes your cooldown just goes away and you do zDPS for 2min

[proper roost]

"I lost ONE SECOND of uptime (GROMNAK SCREAM)"

[tribal wharf]

STOP MOVING THE BOSS I HAVE TO REPOSITION... NOOOOOOO REEEE

[proper roost]

If you're playing breath fdk in m0s where trash dies in 3 seconds, it's skill issue to the moon and back

[plush tendon]

breath in 0s is dumb

100%

[waxen frigate]

I mean sure

[tender cove]

nice ring 😄

[waxen frigate]

But that wasn’t necessarily stated in your sweeping generalization

[tender cove]

getting some gear and having some fun, finally 😛

[waxen cradle]

damn delves keep handing me crit vers gear

[waxen frigate]

Better than no gear

[proper roost]

if you're playing breath in raids and you lose uptime, NO ONE CARES

EVERYONE LOSES UPTIME

yooo your 99 parse went to 2

Okay

[waxen frigate]

You don’t know how breath works and that’s obvious

[proper roost]

didn't ask! (melee dps will ALWAYS be loud about it)

[round pendant]

Man the strawmanning is insane

[waxen frigate]

You just sound stupid

[round pendant]

Yeah

[proper roost]

I played breath bdk when it came out in wod

when it was most punishing

[round pendant]

Doesn't understand frost

[proper roost]

try me

[round pendant]

posts opinion

[proper roost]

younguns

[waxen frigate]

Try to use your brain critically rather than sounding like a moron

[proper roost]

playing literally easy mode version of BoS

[waxen frigate]

And having a weird superiority complex

[round pendant]

anyway the reason I ask here is because this discord is generally significantly more informative than the classes actual discords

[proper roost]

and whinges

[tribal wharf]

GA is the frost build i most understand if i have to do a key cuz its slightly more aoe

[proper roost]

because anyone who actually plays fdk competently will flame you appropriately for whinging*

[tribal wharf]

i dont like obeliterate raid but its better than uh for me

[proper roost]

in acherus

[round pendant]

Totally

[mighty valley]

ehhhh acherus is one of the more whiny discords i've seen lol

[round pendant]

The only person whining is Kanga tho

So, yeah

[tribal wharf]

i might re-roll to some form of dps for a while

cuz then its just, like, theres only 1 spec and rotation as dps

ez, dont stand fire

[waxen frigate]

Anyway you don’t play breath in keys anyway

[proper roost]

it's not weird, i am just better than you

😏

[waxen frigate]

Because yeah the uptime loss makes it unplayable

[proper roost]

be mad about it sweaty

[waxen frigate]

Unless your group plays around it

Non-breath frost is pretty fine when it comes to uptime shit

As long as you aren’t using pillar at terrible times

But that’s a skill issue

Kanga actually dented

[round pendant]

I'm not saying it full on bricks the spec, you can still do good damage

I just feel like unholy gets way less shit on by all the mechanics spam in these dungeons

[mighty valley]

i just don't think we have real data from m0s

[waxen frigate]

I don’t really know a lot about UH but it usually suffers from long setup times and poor cleave compared to either st or mass aoe

[waxen frigate]

M0 data is useless

[mighty valley]

yes that's what i'm saying

so even if uh loses less from mechanics, we don't know if the tuning just means frost wins anyway

sims don't really capture how friendly a dungeon is to two different specs

[waxen frigate]

Frost fucks right now

That’s all I know

Regardless of whether it’s playing breath or not

[round pendant]

Idk, things live long enough in m0s to get a vibe for bosses and making use of your CDs

[waxen frigate]

Disagree

[round pendant]

pillar lasts 12 seconds

[proper roost]

mad because melee DPS player (gromnak brained)

meanwhile rdps doing all of the mechanics for you in all raids

[round pendant]

That's hilarious because it's literally the opposite in my experience

Ranged players just stay in the back and hope the raid leader doesn't notice them doing nothing

[waxen frigate]

I’m at a payphone trying to call home

[proper roost]

normal mode player yappin

[dusky canopy]

Normal gang rise up

[violet ginkgo]

I got no gear, well got few cloaks but none of them got haste, so I just wear one and disenchant the others

[proper roost]

"melee dps do all the mechanics, rdps just afk in the back"

me watching literally every dawnbreaker last boss

as I do all of the bombs

[tribal wharf]

NO SO MUCH WRONG

with what u just said

[proper roost]

damn

[tribal wharf]

about ranged doesnt get mechanics

TOTAL WRONG

[proper roost]

yogi

that's what the other guy is claiming

it's actually really funny that even yogi knows that's a joke

lmao

[tribal wharf]

ranged is cursed, gets ranged mechanics, targeted with shit more lol

i played mage causually

[solid sun]

You got webbed down by the first boss in ara-kara

[proper roost]

Ok cmon

[solid sun]

Your ranged experience was cursed from the start

[proper roost]

Don't do yogi like that

[trim wind]

Do all 8 TWW Dungeons have m0's or are m0's only for the coming m+ season dungeons?

[proper roost]

he's learning

[solid sun]

I’m jk that was too mean

[proper roost]

you dont' even know how resilient yogi is

[solid sun]

Love you yogi

[proper roost]

yogi is the most mentally strong person in this entire discord and it's not even close

[proper roost]

latter

[dusky canopy]

all M0s are the coming M+ season

first time theyve done it that way

[trim wind]

Oh ok, sad! Thought I had more gear to farm haha

[proper roost]

With the way delve ilvl works

[proper roost]

and 0 works

[tribal wharf]

how i died

[trim wind]

Raider-io-addon shows them in filter when looking for dungeons so my hopes went up

[proper roost]

The only real reason to keep doing m0s is to farm specific slots, tbh

[mighty valley]

eight m0s a day is enough

go see the glory of nature

[proper roost]

i've done like one or two a day

it's a vibe

[raw parcel]

Anyone here have Brann at or above 38?

[solid sun]

I don’t hate myself

So no

[raw parcel]

[solid sun]

I’m excited for you to max level him though

Are you gonna promote when you make it happen?

[tribal wharf]

no, hes not evn lvl 15 for me

[solid sun]

Commodore Panda incoming

[toxic pewter]

so like can I only progress delvers journey bar 4 bountiful delves per day?

[raw parcel]

I'm asking because Brann stopped getting xp in bountifuls for me and I wanna know if I hit a cap or if this is a bug or what :x

[violet ginkgo]

is brann quite powerful? I heard at lvl 20 he still do nothing, dunno about 25 or above if there is above.

[tribal wharf]

i feel like if ur bran is already nearing lvl 40 probably time out on that and reset them some

mines like lvl 12

[solid sun]

Sometimes he tells me to jump on him and he tossed me at the bad guys

[raw parcel]

I find Brann to be very useful, personally.

[solid sun]

It’s pretty dope

Someone was saying he cranks at some point but I’ve only done a single tier 8 bountiful delve

Something tells me my Brann is a baby

[vast rivet]

Brannjamin is the big homie. He gives me drinks and despells. Fears and stuns with devilsaur and monke

He also stops one death every couple minutes if necessary

[fallow hinge]

When they say defensive is that just shield block and a big defensive is shield wall?

[violet ginkgo]

we never say that?

[olive wolf]

Hi, is it good to craft pvp items that can go to 610 ilvl ? (by doing like 1 hour of pvp)

[fallow hinge]

meant in like raid guides

[stiff peak]

Did u read it

[violet ginkgo]

Yeah but pretty sure Nome or Mwahi never write something like that.

[warm plinth]

You're reading his question wrong

[lavish solstice]

Guys someone tested if we can Heroic Leap over Gruesome Disgorge of heroic The Bloodbound Horror or just a defensive and pass through?

[warm plinth]

Shield wall and spell block are big defensives. A regular defensive would be like demo shout or spell reflection

[fallow hinge]

thanks

[mighty valley]

shield block should be up always regardless, so yeah, "use a defensive" means use a bigger cd

[solid sun]

Don’t forget d stance!

[warm plinth]

Yeah that too

[proper roost]

y tho

[stiff peak]

The best defensive is to go offensive

[solid sun]

Why what amigo

[proper roost]

why ain't you do more

[violet ginkgo]

Don't forget your ignore pain too.

[solid sun]

Been busy homie. Work been popping off

[proper roost]

That's fucked up

Don't they understand these first 3 weeks of the expansion are the most important part

if you're behind now you might as well wait and go next. unbelievably behind

[solid sun]

I know

I’d say I’m washed but I’m actually more geared than the rest of my squad

So I guess I gotta say we’re all washed. Big yikers

[mighty valley]

if you didn't do 600 heroic dungeons to get gear you'd toss away when you do your 8 m0s a day to get gear you'd toss away when the real season starts

you don't deserve to play world of warcraft for personal computer

[tender cove]

decent roll 😛

[quasi pivot]

Quickest delve today to level to 8 on?

[dusky canopy]

the underwater one in spider zone

Abyss

[quasi pivot]

Thanks.

Prot+DPS bran the way to go?

[solid sun]

Devlin out there delvin

[dusky canopy]

I did it as fury/healer myself

[proper roost]

you don't need healer brann for delves

if you're tank

just use cds and focus down/cc prio targets

use cds for spells specifically, there are like 0 mobs in delves that will hurt you with their autos, entirely spells

[primal cloak]

Hello guys, quick question. If i intervene the second tank during a tank cleave abilitie, do i take the debuff ? or just the damage ?

[woven radish]

Yes

[primal cloak]

Thank you

[pallid quiver]

unless it's a spell cast that can't be intervened

then it still hits the original tank, since you can't catch those kinds of abilities

It's best to assume you'd get the second hit, though

[violet ginkgo]

So basically no point of intervening the other tank? Just intervene the dpses?

[pallid quiver]

DPS gain infinitely more value from intervenes, anyway, though in raid where this is assumed it's still going to be minor value

At best it saves like 400k healing to do on a raid-wide pulse AOE or gives you free mobility

[violet ginkgo]

Yeah raid setting

[pallid quiver]

The other biggest thing you can do with it is intervene someone being fixated by adds,

[toxic pewter]

just sniped a 30k gold enchant for 88 silver someone posted it incorrectly

[pallid quiver]

which is a thing that actually happens in a non-zero amount of encounters this raid

[lusty grotto]

intervene is pretty good in

bloodtwister

for ghuunies (though tbf, im not sure if you get infested if you do this)

[pallid quiver]

Ovi and Council both have fixate adds, iirc

[violet ginkgo]

Poggies

[lusty grotto]

court*

[pallid quiver]

fuck

I'm a fake wow player

This is because I didn't clear Court yesterday smh

I didn't know what I was doing, watching the DPS fail to stop the charge

it's my fault

[lusty grotto]

[violet ginkgo]

The court is really DPS and Healer mech heavy.

[pallid quiver]

I'm jabbing at the pugs I was vibing at yesterday. Two of them volunteered to handle all the webs on normal,

they did it once, we all laughed, and it was too late to continue

Was a fun raid overall

[violet ginkgo]

Tank is just need to stack em that’s it. Oh btw when we got bombarded with poison bolt (which we can reflect once) how to deal with that? Rely on healer dispelling the poison debuff?

[pallid quiver]

oh

That reminds me to check if the dot is spell blockable

[lament girder]

Anybody get this bug where you can't charge in the air mid heroic leap anymore? 😭

[violet ginkgo]

Well sense’s doc didn’t mention about the dot but… I think the dot is not blockable?

[pallid quiver]

Definitely doesn't look blockable on the dot, no

[toxic pewter]

this was changed in tww beta and I and some others noticed, I put in feedback about it during beta and mentioned it in the warrior post on beta forums but never was changed. it is weird you can still do virtually anything else while leaping even shield charging except regular charge.

The game puts a gcd after you leap until you land (just for charge)

[bleak plinth]

Hey guys just had Reinforced-Wax plating trinket drop in bountiful delve, is it aboslute trah or worth using?

[pallid quiver]

The one that reduces damage taken by 26k or so?

[bleak plinth]

yeah

[pallid quiver]

it has primary at least

other than that, the effect is borderline useless

[lament girder]

Oh god, lol thanks. i think i remember seeing something about that and was hoping it'd be fixed by now, but i guess it's hear to stay

[toxic pewter]

its pretty awful, I used to leap into charge all the time in pve and pvp

[lofty warren]

is it possible to do delves in group if you have war mode on? when it first was available healers said they couldn't heal me if I had it on.

[toxic pewter]

yes I just tanked a delve and i have wm on

i think they seem to have fixed that bug

[untold hornet]

anyone do zekvir at ?? difficulty yet for the solo achievement?

[toxic pewter]

i cant seem to beat a +9 delve so not me lol

[lusty grotto]

is his delve open?

cause otherwise you wont be able to

[untold hornet]

I killed zekvir at ? difficulty in his lair delve, but holy SHIT is the max difficulty tough

yes it is

[pallid quiver]

did you tell him his claws are tiny and all the other spiders think he's stinky poo poo?

emotional damage is all the rage

[untold hornet]

furthest I have got him to is 62%, just wondering if anyone had a talent build for this if theyve finished it

[untold hornet]

yes then he hit me hard 😦

[pallid quiver]

i think you used the wrong ability smh

you're supposed to demoralize them, not moralize them

Moralizing Shout

[toxic pewter]

how have you guys beaten lvl 11 delves even, seems every group I have joined for even a 9 struggled.. am i missing sonmething

[untold hornet]

solo fungal folley if you wanna get to zekvir

its tough but pretty manageable

[toxic pewter]

dont i have to do every delve at lvl 11

[untold hornet]

nah

[pallid quiver]

i refuse to go to fungal folly more than necessary.

[toxic pewter]

oh I misunderstood then sweet

[pallid quiver]

I'm still traumatized from day 1 sporebits

[untold hornet]

sporebits are how I cleared it at 11 lmao

[toxic pewter]

what ilvl r u

[untold hornet]

600.06

[toxic pewter]

ok

i should be able to do it also then

im around there

[proper roost]

wait i have good spaghetti code joke

about this

[untold hornet]

i cleared the 11 at around 592

I just juiced my gear for zekvir

[proper roost]

on classic, there was a bug for like 3 months where demoralizing shout (on classic it reduces mob ap by 10%) would actually

increase mob ap by 10%

[untold hornet]

silly blizz

[proper roost]

but it simultaneously reduced the damage the warrior took by 15% or something

so it like, evened out

it was an extremely strange bug

like on logs, it showed mobs just gaining 10-15% damage range and then the DR% just spiked way up

[untold hornet]

well if anyone manages to get him down on the max difficulty, please ping me, I would love to either see a clip of your run or your talents you used. You need to be able to drop about 11m damage in 10 seconds for the ads he spawns, so dont build raw defensive, you still need ravager for the quick boost in dam

mountain thane seems to be the better choice for him

[proper roost]

11m in 10s huh

that is an ask for sure

[untold hornet]

if you cant, a spider spawns and it just stuns you for 6 seconds, zekvir will nuke you in that stun

[proper roost]

what if u just

duo it

[untold hornet]

yes but no secret achievement and bragging right dirigible

I have to rub it in my other raid tank's face

[proper roost]

You don't get the achievement if you complete it in a group?

[untold hornet]

the achievement is let me solo him

it is a secret achievement

[cerulean vessel]

Can you pvp trinke the stun? Or is it something that just gets spammed

[proper roost]

oh cool

[untold hornet]

i am unsure if it is a spammed stun, because I die as soon as it goes out

berserker's rage doesnt work for it

im assuming the trinket wont either

let me try rq

[prime garden]

got a hero main hand from a delve map, should i send uprades?

[untold hornet]

this early, might as well

[proper roost]

I mean vault opens in half a week for 616 delves

Just depends what you value more

🤷

[cerulean vessel]

I'm holding off on using crest above carved for next week

[proper roost]

this week or future crests

[prime garden]

yeah i wasnt planning in going above 4/8champion

but since its a heroic item, main hand too, i was wondering

[cerulean vessel]

I'd say hold off till next week, who knows what your vault will have

[prime garden]

will do, ty 🫡

[pallid quiver]

If you're upgrading anything, that's honestly not the worst thing to upgrade

Since it'd make any replacements crest free

I'd still wait to see if you get a shield, personally

But you can make much worse decisions

[prime garden]

right

[untold hornet]

little bastard didnt even stun me.

Anyways, its 11.14m health and 15 seconds to hatch

[proper roost]

that's powerful

seems pretty hard to do that much damage in 15s as a tank

pwar would probably be the best equipped for it though

[untold hornet]

web blast def woujld work with spell block and reflect, but it stuns you shortly after spawning

[proper roost]

whats the timer

you can reflect while stunned i'm 90% sure (precast reflect right before the stun)

obv not spellblock

[livid meadow]

hello !! do you guys know if the WA for the reflects is up ? :))

[untold hornet]

the frontals that zekvir uses after the stun hits for 50m physical dam

aint no way a stunned reflect helps

[cerulean vessel]

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9/3

[edgy bone]

Wheres the colossus M+ build

or is that not a thing

[untold hornet]

laughs in mountain thane supremacy

surely there is one on wowhead?

[proper roost]

i see, nice

gl

[livid meadow]

thx ! you rock

[edgy bone]

are we ever gonna be allowed to spend our sparks

[cerulean vessel]

Soon™

[mellow quartz]

You will probably have tuning tomorrow

Maybe Monday

[real fossil]

No one is stopping you from being impatient and crafting something!

The duskthread vers embellishments seem pretty derisked to me

Or just buy the mats now for every potential option and decide next week 🤷🏼‍♂️

[tropic pond]

what do you guys think about using charge+sc as a opener to pack of mob?

[toxic pewter]

i mean both are already part of our opener

[lusty grotto]

you SC after avatar + demo + spear is down

not before

you need charge + avatar for an SB

the openers are on the guides

[tropic pond]

yeah i been watching several streamer guide and guides, and both have different opener

[lusty grotto]

streamers...

yikes

well we cannot comment on those

we can only comment on Wowhead/Icyveins since those are skyhold's guides

[edgy bone]

Dorki says Charge+SC to open packs

[tropic pond]

yeah thats what im seeing

[lusty grotto]

dorki is a streamer, not a theorycrafter

do you want max damage from shield charge?

then press it after all your buffs are down

[real fossil]

There are arguments that you need snap threat but with thunder clap being a thing it’s a hard sell

[edgy bone]

Has anyone ever misplaced a sparkj?

Im supposed to have 2 but only have one

[waxen frigate]

Not the greatest but it’s not really going to change anything

[shut summit]

ngl I hit different shit every time in opener, such a small thing to worry about

[waxen frigate]

^^^

[lusty grotto]

right

there shouldnt be anything set in stone

[waxen frigate]

Nah man one button out of sequence just /sit and ggs go next

[soft tusk]

ddo we get the other fragment this week?

[rain light]

you should have 2 sparks

[edgy bone]

I onl have 1 spark

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[soft tusk]

did u get the 2nd this week?

[rain light]

yes

[lusty grotto]

of course

[soft tusk]

ty

[lusty grotto]

did you do the quest right next to the catalyst?

[elder tinsel]

Did you do the quest last week? The weekly to get your second shard?

[lusty grotto]

on the first week

[elder tinsel]

Er first shard

[lusty grotto]

im guessing they didnt

but luckily they should still be able to do it

the tutorial quest, if they didnt do the weekly, they are fucked

but should drop anyway as part of the catchup

[hardy snow]

[lusty grotto]

nice grats

dropped for us as well but i didnt get it

[hardy snow]

I was lucky, cause other person who wanted this was dps, so he would have prio

but he is trial

[lusty grotto]

😄

i dont even know who got it

[pallid quiver]

absolutely based

[dusky canopy]

[jagged gust]

Sense has like half a dozen emotes here istg

meanwhile all I have

[dusky canopy]

thats what happens when youre the goat

[jagged gust]

He's clearly a bald eagle

[rain light]

m0 being a daily lockout is great

cant beat the 1st place ilvl guy on stormrage, so I'll settle for 2nd

[dusky canopy]

Tru

[hardy snow]

Before that I was just going to dungeon once, dont get loot that I want and thats all. Now I can repeate that experience every day 👍

[soft tusk]

wait so u can exchange all ur weathere for carved? at what rate?

[jagged gust]

90-15

isnt it?

[lusty grotto]

yes you can downgrade crests

since DF

and upgrade since s3

[dusky canopy]

can upgrade now too Nim

[sand condor]

hwy tf do we run this waepon enchant

what weapon enchant dow e run

[lusty grotto]

authority

gl getting it at a good price though, its a raid drop recipe

[toxic pewter]

I like how they made it so pvp gear you may want doesnt need sparks anymore, very solid change they did

[fathom robin]

what profs you guys going? and specializations

[lusty grotto]

whichever you like

[dusky canopy]

I do engi for the gadgets

[toxic pewter]

most are prob alch/engi

[dusky canopy]

and alch for the flask duration

[fathom robin]

yeah looking to optimize

[lusty grotto]

you dont gain much with professions

so any pick is fine

[fathom robin]

okay, well that makes it easier

[rain light]

herb for the mists skip

[sweet summit]

engi alch owns the hardest

[nimble grail]

Hey guys; i guess that since nothing is pinned, we still need to wait before craft ?

[rain light]

yes

[nimble grail]

Even for raid progress ?

[lusty grotto]

wdym nothing is pinned

i see a pin right there

[nimble grail]

Nothing newµ

[plush tendon]

Engi kind of useless now though

[lusty grotto]

nah

the potion bomb is pretty useful

[plush tendon]

is it engi specific?

[lusty grotto]

afaik

its a group wide potion though, in an area

[waxen frigate]

Think so yeah but it’s simp duty and I won’t do it

[lusty grotto]

and it does put your own pots in cds, so beware of trolling with it

everyone's pots on cd, rather

its good if you have a coordinated group though

[shadow haven]

Would you guys use a same ilvl item with worse stats if it had a tertiary stat?

[waxen frigate]

No

[lusty grotto]

hell no

[plush tendon]

how worse are the stats we talking

[soft tusk]

no unless it's speed

[lusty grotto]

tertiaries are not up for consideration on that

[soft tusk]

speed > everything

[lusty grotto]

especially now that DF prepatch nerfed leech gain

[plush tendon]

screw leech

all about speed

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[lusty grotto]

yes of course

[plush tendon]

my point of view is this; if we comparing a haste/crit vs hast/vers with tiert.... I would be tempted to take the tiert

if its like a vers/mas... then naw

[lusty grotto]

no

thats your opinion augusto

not something we should recommend

[plush tendon]

yea, keword is I and tempted

[soft tusk]

speed > everything

[plush tendon]

id prob even sim

just to see what the loss is if there is a loss

[soft tusk]

Any recommendations where to level my delve tier from 3 - 8?

[dusky canopy]

I used abyss in spider zone

3-5 minutes each

[soft tusk]

just pray I don't get a map right?

[lusty grotto]

why

[dusky canopy]

supposedly maps drop chance in non bountiful is extremely low

so just run em

[soft tusk]

gotcha

[lusty grotto]

you want those, why would you pray for not having a drop

[soft tusk]

3 per week correct?

[lusty grotto]

just dont use them

[soft tusk]

b/c it's non tier 8

[dusky canopy]

he doesnt want a map to drop out of non T8

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter

[dusky canopy]

becuase itll reward less ilvl

[sweet summit]

belt knock

[lusty grotto]

just use them in the t8

[proper roost]

if they don't tune embellishes tomorrow i'm gonna come for you

[soft tusk]

so maybe i don't understand how it works

map is a drop?

[proper roost]

the map is specific to the delve level it dropped in

[lusty grotto]

are you sure

[proper roost]

yes

It literally says like Delve level 4 map

or whatever

[lusty grotto]

ok well yeah i guess you go with what brew said

[soft tusk]

how do I know I got a map?

is it an item I click or something I loot?

[lusty grotto]

yes its an item

[soft tusk]

is it obvious when it's there?

[lusty grotto]

its a drop

you cant really tell until you loot

[soft tusk]

loot from the chest at the end or mobs?

[proper roost]

i mean idk search ur inventory for map

[mellow quartz]

that pvp quest to do an epic battleground and you get enough crafting items to make 3x 610 items is kinda nuts, just did that and zerged the last boss. Took 3min lol

[proper roost]

literally called a map

i think tehres a wowhead page for this

i think

you are better off checking the wowhead page

instead of playing 20 questions

https://www.wowhead.com/news/delvers-bounty-random-treasure-map-from-delves-awards-up-to-hero-track-gear-346588

here you go have fun

[jagged gust]

That's fucking cursed holy shit

[lusty grotto]

its not

cause it saves everyone 1 pot each

[round pendant]

Do weapon crafters really need t3 mats to hit 606 rn?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[round pendant]

70k per weapon

very cool

[lusty grotto]

its either that or you pay for their concentration

and its thursday, so its very likely their concentration isnt up from crafting frenzy on tuesday

[jagged gust]

we're gonna be swimming in heroic gear next week, don't fall for the trap

[tender cove]

I got this for free 😛

[fresh igloo]

I can't find anything for prot warriors with this trinket. Seems really bad.. is the iLvl weighing it up?

[lusty grotto]

use it if its higher ilvl than what you have

[waxen frigate]

It’s fucking terrible in terms of the actual effect

[lusty grotto]

or use to discount upgrade your existing ones

[waxen frigate]

But if your alternatives are also bad and lower iLvl it’s probably fine just for the raw strength

[molten gorge]

ackshually

it's called a Delver's bounty

[hoary pivot]

got lucky with drops, but sad that its only M0 drops and will probably be replaced soon

[molten gorge]

yuge

[dusky canopy]

ayye large sac gang

[molten gorge]

[dusky canopy]

Mark didnt drop today again

fingers crossed for shard

headed there now

[proper roost]

good luck

[strong forum]

damnb

[molten gorge]

inshallah you will receive it

[proper roost]

what are the ring/trinket upgrade rules now

is it still you need 2 of them

to start getting discounts up to the lowest one of those

[strong forum]

yes need 2

[molten gorge]

for the crests you mean?

ye

[lusty grotto]

the swap thing got fixed somehow

[strong forum]

"somehow"

[proper roost]

[strong forum]

it got fixed in s3 DF

[lusty grotto]

exactly, black magic

ty nome

[molten gorge]

Devs actually shaking reading "somehow" rn

zero credit

jk, none of them play the game so they don't read discord

[toxic pewter]

is the delvers journey bar basically time gated since you can only do 4 bountiful delves per day

[proper roost]

kinda

it's like degen gated I think

[strong forum]

there are only 4 bounty delves per day

[lusty grotto]

you can push tiers

[proper roost]

because the bountiful delves are per-character

so they're

almost functionally infinite

[toxic pewter]

is there any catch up mechanics if i didnt do any delves the first two days

[proper roost]

if you're extremely, extremely fucking degen

[toxic pewter]

oh is that bar account wide it is right

[proper roost]

i am 90% sure it is

[toxic pewter]

seems like it should be

[proper roost]

yeah wouldn't really make sense not to be

[fair beacon]

question: which embelishments are best on prot warr?

[lusty grotto]

wowhead and icyveins guide has em

[neon elk]

I have a feeling u can bypass this with alts, just like bran levels , cant you?

[toxic pewter]

yeah I guess the 'catchup mech' is just do it on alts yes

[proper roost]

that's what I just said yes

[fair beacon]

the guide shows both the crit and vers embelishments. dunno which one :S

[proper roost]

but also what are you "catching up" to

[toxic pewter]

Just want to upgrade my derigible

[lusty grotto]

vers embelish is a raid drop

[proper roost]

i see

[lusty grotto]

so it'll be extremely expensive

[toxic pewter]

want to make it look like a jet asap

[proper roost]

oh shit you what

[fair beacon]

I have access to both through guild crafters

[toxic pewter]

lol

[lusty grotto]

i would suggest going with what sims best then

which is probably dawn

but your sims will have a better answer

1T patchwerk 3min/5mins for ST/Raid
5T patchwerk 1min/1.5mins for AOE/M+

[bleak breach]

If you’re playing colossus at all go crit, thane can use both. Colossus needs the crit

[proper roost]

what's the model of the jetty one, cannot find

[toxic pewter]

check the rostrum

basically can get wings and thrusters in the back

instead of propellers

[neon elk]

Do one of each xd

[proper roost]

fug....

i thought i wouldn't have to do delves after this week...

[toxic pewter]

LOL

[proper roost]

this is real fucked up you would tell me this man

i hate u!

[toxic pewter]

rekt

also can get a cool overhea prop that gets rid of this annoying green flag

basically i need to get rid of this green flag on my derigible

ugly af

[proper roost]

the blimp part? i don't like that one

but the flag is lame yeah

[toxic pewter]

na like a helicopter propeller

[proper roost]

oo

[toxic pewter]

its badass looking if i say so

but sort of doesnt go with jets lmao

but can pick depending on mood

[lusty grotto]

this is mine

[toxic pewter]

nice yeah thats what mine looks like right now too

but i am working to get rid of flag

[lusty grotto]

🤝

[toxic pewter]

ngl I am big fan of this mount

fits the whole going into the world very well

[proper roost]

i wish the propellers in the back spun more

and it was a bit wider

but other than that no notes fun mount

[molten gorge]

the pvp craft, my bracers are lowest ilvl is it worth me getting the tinker ones or do I just send Crit/Haste?

[lusty grotto]

mine just has the tail now

[toxic pewter]

yah the prop does seem to speed up when surging but yeah faster would be cool

yah damn i missed 2 days of delves and cant get tail yet

reeeee

[proper roost]

time to level alts..

[lusty grotto]

[toxic pewter]

wait can lvl 70s do delves anyone know

[proper roost]

yes

but you won't gain brann xp

so i don't think that will give you progress idk

[toxic pewter]

can they do bountiful ones

yeah hmm

[proper roost]

not sure about the bountiful

maybe if they can enter bountiful it'd give exp past 15

[toxic pewter]

i just want to progress this damn bar..

[proper roost]

idk exactly wtf the delve season progress bar is based on anyway

[toxic pewter]

but surely a 70 cannot progress this bar..

[proper roost]

I don't think it's exactly based on brann's exp, cuz isn't his cap level 50 or something

ok i could probably look this up

maaaybe it's just time gated?

icyveins has this post https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/delvers-journey-guide
and claims

As you complete Delves, you will find various quest items inside treasure chests at the end of your run. These can be turned it at Elise Starseeker located at Delver's Headquarters in Dornogal for 3,000 Delver's Journey, 150 Resonance Crystals, and 750 Undercoin per quest.

[dusky canopy]

wait that delver ship is customizable!?

[proper roost]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

damn wtf

i aint find any of those quests

[chilly brook]

I just find it funny that the "solo content" of delves are significantlu easier with even just one other person

[toxic pewter]

yeah they really messed that up didnt they

[chilly brook]

https://x.com/Slootbag/status/1834304771047424444

Ted (@Slootbag) on X

Decided to do a little more Delve scaling testing... here are the amazing results (on a Tier 8):
Tested on various damage intake types, settled on "Web Bolt" just as a standard for consistency for these values.

1 Tank: 2.5M
1 Tank + 1 DPS: 1M
2 Tanks + 1 DPS: 1.5M
2 Tanks: 1.5M

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 6:55 PM

shit is funny

[pallid quiver]

I think it's kinda neat that it's a challenge if you solo, but it's dramatically easier in a group

Gives people challenge if they want to solo, but if they want an easy time, they can just friend it up

[proper roost]

i suspect the page is just wrong, because there are people doing the 13th delve rn

[toxic pewter]

yah many people are in there. apparently just gotta do a +11. can solo fungal folly from what others said and it unlocks the zekvirs lair

[chilly brook]

isn't 13th not available yet?

[soft tusk]

is it worth upping the sac to 606?

[proper roost]

ok this makes so much sense

[toxic pewter]

yeah sure why not

[proper roost]

i knew it felt like tanks randomly got extra trucked compared to DPS

They just added really really fucky weird modifiers

[chilly brook]

yeah solo tank is like 3x normal damage

but it drops heavily if you add even just one other player

[proper roost]

literally

2.5m damage from that spell

to 1m

if you play with a dps

lmao. lol. rofl even

[toxic pewter]

they pob just put a '-' instead of a '+' by accident

[jagged gust]

don't worry, they'll manage to fix it by the end of S3

That's a shaman throwback

[proper roost]

blizz be like "this is solo content also, you don't have a friend? lmaooo idiot!"

[toxic pewter]

forever alone dudes in shambles rn

[swift urchin]

I did it

[toxic pewter]

cant get a wife.. got no friends... delves hurt real bad.. smh feelsbadman..

[lusty grotto]

well not having gear certainly does not help

so they will be soloable, just at a different pace for those types of players

[mellow quartz]

I don’t understand why people complain about not being able to solo delves level 8 at 580 ilvl when it’s meant to be ‘end game progression for solo players’.

[tender cove]

did you see hp scaling? 1 player is more than 2 and 3 but 2 player is less than 1 and 3 players. Like, what?

[soft tusk]

do u get better loot past tier 8?

[mellow quartz]

No

[soft tusk]

delves reset daily right?

4 per day

bounty*

[mellow quartz]

The bountiful ones yes

[neon elk]

So the best strat is duo it ?

[proper roost]

the minmax fomo trickles down fr

people being like "yeah i WILL do a +10 on day 1 of m+ release" when they're like solidly 2k io KSM players

is why low keys are toxic

like nimchip saying the other day "are you sure you're actually going to do a +6/7 day one?" and like... he was easily top 1% last previous DF seasons but the rando casuals are offended by that statement

[chilly brook]

best strat prolly 4 dps and 1 tank

[proper roost]

Like ??? lol weird ass ego havers when they are giga casual

[dusky canopy]

do you guys know the rppm of geararang launcher

[mellow quartz]

Easiest shit to do for gear right now is 1 epic BG and you get 9 crafting thingies which can make you 3x 610 ilvl items

[dusky canopy]

liike should expect to cast it like every minuteish

[tribal wharf]

theres the damage i took on the spider pull 2

[proper roost]

if u WIN

[mellow quartz]

Yep

[tribal wharf]

8 million in 2 seconds

[proper roost]

Me watching all of the alliance dumb fucks (I am one) drool at their keyboards

😡

[mellow quartz]

I never pvp, zerged last boss and whole thing took 3min

[proper roost]

gonna have to do like 3 more to finish the stupid quest!!

it depends on which one u get

I got wintergrasp

which you can't zerg

so

yeah

there's like 5 or 6 epic bgs

[mellow quartz]

That one has another quest apparently for more conquest you can use to buy more crafting tokens

[proper roost]

Yes

If you win

Iffffffffffff

😡

[mellow quartz]

Still a pretty easy way to get multiple 610 even if it takes you a few tries

[eternal blaze]

hey so I got a shield from the delve, and I'm abit stumped if its good, if its bad its does stuff im just gunna post idk if anyone has seen this yet

[mellow quartz]

No stamina

[eternal blaze]

yeah I'm iffy about it, wasn't sure if anyone had this or there was something about it I've missed

[mellow quartz]

What ilvl is your old shield like?

[eternal blaze]

593

[mellow quartz]

You can use it for the block but replace it when you get something better

[neon elk]

Good shield , now u can upgrade your 593 for free

[eternal blaze]

but we're all prety confirmed the shield itself is poopy

[mellow quartz]

Unless it’s maxed track already

[neon elk]

True

[mellow quartz]

Effect is not good and you lose stamina and secondaries

[neat parrot]

So is a spark in shield bad call ? since i didnt get hc or nm shield

[mellow quartz]

Good call

[pallid quiver]

It's not looking to be the worst if you slap the embel on it, but a myth shield does drop off first boss

But there can still be tuning coming up

So the proper response is still to just hold

[neat parrot]

i mean guilds crafted already rihht?

[pallid quiver]

I think RWF are still holding, but don't hold me to it. I don't follow them obsessively

[mellow quartz]

You can do whatever you want. Waiting is just min/max

No point crafting right now

Don’t need it

[pallid quiver]

Most Myth raiders have probably blown at the start of the week just based on price of embels

At least the prices went up a bit there for a while

[nimble sable]

What do we think about Mad Queen's Mandate?

[lusty grotto]

@oblique garnet wut r u doin

[oblique garnet]

no clue

[worthy bear]

Lul

[lusty grotto]

[pallid quiver]

fightin' the inner blizz demons

Or should I say...

DAEMONS?

[oblique garnet]

Im not even logged in on bnet

[lusty grotto]

i see i see

[pallid quiver]

oh no, late's been hackered

[desert blaze]

Hey, any advice on the what to craft? I am a casual player, don't raid so min/max from me 🙂 I crafted a 606 sheild and wondering what to make next

[mellow quartz]

Anything but tier slots

Wrists or cloak or boots

Weapon

[pallid quiver]

We can't give any actual advice other than pretty much the above, since most of our info is focused on providing min/max

You'll eventually want two embels on your gear, but we don't know which will be the best by the end of the tuning.

[desert blaze]

no worries but thank you

[oblique garnet]

Not a big loss tbh

[mellow quartz]

Do we know if there is a cap to the number of sparks we can get?

Already have 2

[pallid quiver]

but they'll find out how many ne goldshire toons you have

[pallid quiver]

Should only be the half a spark per week thing,

So you'll eventually have enough to have literally every slot crafted if you so choose

[mellow quartz]

Yeah but dunno if it’s ’up to 6’

Or something

[pallid quiver]

The only limit is two embels at once

[mellow quartz]

If not we are just limited by crests I guess

[pallid quiver]

Sparks have no upper limit, just a weekly cap on how many are in play

[mellow quartz]

It’s still 90 per craft for 636 right?

[pallid quiver]

i thought it was 60 before

if it was 90 before it is 90

[mellow quartz]

They increased the requirement I believe

Used to be 60

[pallid quiver]

then it's that, then

I haven't kept up with crest reqs since I've been in solid wait on craft mode

[oblique quarry]

Anyone have advice for the let me solo him achievement?

[pallid quiver]

I think the general sentiment is that like 75% of people here didn't even know the delve was available

[oblique garnet]

Is it still doing that?

[oblique quarry]

lol fair, tried it last night and it feels pretty doable but am still working on it.

[pallid quiver]

There was a discussion earlier about it. I'd link it, but nothing of note really came of the convo

[oblique quarry]

Fair enough. I’ll share what I learn when I get it today day.

[pallid quiver]

Good luck out there; I hear it's rough with the stun add

[graceful maple]

yoo any updates on Embelishes? the pin is from 29/08

[lusty grotto]

nah

[oblique quarry]

The first few are pretty easy to kill but I keep failing around 20%. Thanks!

[pallid quiver]

Still the same boat

[oblique garnet]

Wonder what was causing it because i didnt even have the bnet app open on pc

[pallid quiver]

Will likely be the case until Myth week proper, maybe a week after

[lusty grotto]

small indie company

[pallid quiver]

Tuning can drastically affect any choices, and you're pretty hard locked time wise with sparks, so it's recommended to wait if you're aiming to be optimal

[oblique garnet]

Hows the new content

[pallid quiver]

I've enjoyed myself if you're asking me; I don't do anything too seriously, so it's pretty fun overall. I feel like dungeon trash design needs help, but since I'm not mega pushing, it's workable

[lusty grotto]

its fun so far

[pallid quiver]

People as a whole feel a bit more antsy about gearing, though

[lusty grotto]

yeah

its just a lot of people that are coming back from past expansions and who skipped DF etc

classic andies dipping their toes

as well

its not a bad thing really

on the contrary, its good for blizz

and a bigger playerbase in the end is good for everyone as well

[oblique garnet]

Be free

Just dont play the game 8)

[lusty grotto]

always a good option

[proper roost]

i bet i can kidnap nimchip for my D&D game

[oblique garnet]

Yes till you get bored

But on the bright side age of mythology remastered just got added to gamepass so thats nice

[pallid quiver]

but i like pressing buttons in the game right now

[tribal wharf]

is the strat on boss 1 ara kara tolust on pull for lost time or to lust on adds cuz maybe they kill party

[oblique garnet]

Its the stockholm syndrome talking

[pallid quiver]

Those fixate adds can be stunned and all, so they shouldn't be a major problem. You're also heavily likely to lust the trash before 1st boss, anyhow

[tribal wharf]

oh good they can be stunned

thats the first thingi was about to askl

[graceful kite]

hmm

[tribal wharf]

well i killed the spider

but i now have yellow swirly PTSD

[orchid mural]

hello - thoughts on this shield?

[tribal wharf]

bad

u dont want it

800 versa is fuck all

[soft tusk]

Do we farm tier 8s until we get ths maps and then use those maps on bountifuls?

[tribal wharf]

and wont save u or add much dps

[pallid quiver]

It's also a chance for that to proc, and it's a fairly small chance iirc

It would need tuning help to be relevant compared to a normal crafted shield with an added embel

[dusty gate]

Just did Let Me Solo Him as prot, was very hard until phase 2

Spell reflect his phase 2 ability basically one shots him

[soft tusk]

Do we farm Tier 8 Delves until we get a map and then do it on a Bountiful Delve?

[tribal wharf]

its not that it is very bad, but its is very bad by comparison to whats available, whats better? i dont know, but its D tier

[pallid quiver]

If you want? That's a ton of farming if the drop data is right, since it's like 0.12% drop rate from the end chests on non-bountiful

So that's two shots of 0.12% per delve

[proper roost]

oh

your 0.12% claim is from the wowhead drop data

yeah i think thats def wrong

[heavy wave]

Random drop in delve, good?

[pallid quiver]

garbo tier

[proper roost]

it's prob factoring all the previous tier delves or t3 or something

[pallid quiver]

the lack of secondaries and stam hurts your every day tankiness, and the benefit of the effect is extremely fringe. That's if it activates, too

[proper roost]

I mean it literally doesn't math that maps are 4% from locked bountiful delve chests

it's like 30-50% or something like that

[neon elk]

Cant be that high

[proper roost]

way way way too common for it to be 4%

[mellow quartz]

What the wowhead data said 🤷‍♂️

[tight prairie]

I’ll anecdotally say I’m 0/7 for map pieces. Could just be RNG RNGing 🤷‍♂️

[spice glade]

Yeah im 0/8

[neon elk]

Same , havent seen single onr

[spice glade]

Cant be higher than 10 or 15%

[lusty grotto]

@toxic pewter its account wide btw, the journey thing

[jaunty arch]

is it clear already what doi we have to craft with the spark? dont see anything in pinned messages so sorry if it was already asked

[lusty grotto]

how are people missing the very first message

it has popo sirens and all

[old echo]

needs more red lights

[tight prairie]

The sirens are subtle, agreed

[tribal wharf]

this is baseline right?

[lusty grotto]

yes yogi

[zealous goblet]

[maiden hinge]

Picked this up in a delve. Can't find info on it on WoWhead nor in here. I'm guessing it's just that bad?

[tribal wharf]

thats cool, since launch/prepatch?

[zealous goblet]

another 610 trinket for me

not optimal, but thats a lotta stats

[tribal wharf]

or since 10.3/10.3.5

i quit for a bit in 10.2.6

[proper roost]

fighting the good fight out here...

[mighty valley]

how odd https://x.com/Slootbag/status/1834304771047424444?t=WMAZVXa9TbhYii72qrG_hQ&s=19

Ted (@Slootbag) on X

Decided to do a little more Delve scaling testing... here are the amazing results (on a Tier 8):
Tested on various damage intake types, settled on "Web Bolt" just as a standard for consistency for these values.

1 Tank: 2.5M
1 Tank + 1 DPS: 1M
2 Tanks + 1 DPS: 1.5M
2 Tanks: 1.5M

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 6:55 PM

[lusty grotto]

Attention: Concerning Delve trinkets
use them if if has higher ilvl and/or higher upgrade track, their effects are a bonus at most, or dont matter at worst. These are not being considered because they will get replaced fairly fast.

If you feel like you will not replace it or if its a hero track trinket, just sim:
1 target Patchwerk 3 mins or 5 mins for ST/Raid
5 target Patchwerk 1 mins or 1.5 mins for AOE/M+

[tribal wharf]

wtf that supposed to mean harrow

too dumb to understand not angr

[spice glade]

The haste steroid candle kinda owns tho ngl

[lusty grotto]

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[mighty valley]

god dammit i can't hit nim with the minor spelling mistake gif

[maiden hinge]

Thank you m'lord

[mighty valley]

delves do way more damage to you if you're a tank in there solo than they do if you bring a dps friend with you

[lusty grotto]

where!

oh

[tribal wharf]

interesting

[lusty grotto]

i see one lmao

[mighty valley]

5 target Patchwer

[lusty grotto]

ty sir

[tribal wharf]

well, the good news is we destroyed boss 1 for spider

[maiden hinge]

Still one left

[zealous goblet]

you should use your power and influence and seduce a mod into putting it in the pins tbh

i know you're good for it

[tribal wharf]

but i got my feet a little wet, or at least a pinky

[potent anvil]

Is it pin worthy?

[tribal wharf]

so, i'm hoping i can complete all of ara kara, go from there

[lusty grotto]

its been asked a lot but i think Nome's comment on it might be best

[tribal wharf]

not alot of confidence going into this key season i cant lie

[lusty grotto]

to pin that is

[dusky canopy]

hmmmm

[lusty grotto]

idk tbh

[zealous goblet]

i think it is giga brain to pin because brainlets like me asked before, so there will be others

[potent anvil]

I didn't see his comment. But I can pin yours if you want

[zealous goblet]

think of all the spared headaches

[oblique garnet]

[potent anvil]

[mellow quartz]

Next week no one will care abt delves lol

[tribal wharf]

what i've experienced and saw on streams so far is mythic zeros seemed to be perfectly balanced

you die if you do dumb things and you win while struggling if you do the right things

[lusty grotto]

alyrion is right yea

[potent anvil]

I cared about delves just to get the title on t11

[mighty valley]

attn new skyhold users: if you read the pins and they answer some questions for you, please post "i read the pins ty mr skyhold 🫡 " to validate the work of our brave and smart pin writers

[tribal wharf]

i saw thor run a few zeros yesterday or day before

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

BADASS!

gotta go get mine

[zealous goblet]

I READ THE PINS THANK YOU MISTER GROUNDLETGO

[soft tusk]

loot like this is from the maps right?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[tight prairie]

Last boss of Ara-kara will be marked as the mythic “pug killer”. Everything else seems fine in random groups.

[soft tusk]

you can kill Brann lol?

[tribal wharf]

skill issue tbh im callin it now despite never done it on mythic

[mellow quartz]

First boss in Mist

[tribal wharf]

if u can log into wow and dps ur way to 3rd boss, u can kil lit

[lusty grotto]

you can if you dc/bug out with different factions

it happened to me at least once

but it certainly does not happen often, its dc related

[tribal wharf]

i garuntee within 2 weeks someone will find a fool proof way to deal with the root oil thingy, my guess is you hide behind the puddles in a line

[lusty grotto]

also does anyone know if its worth doing the 5x memories or just stick to the 1s

[dusky canopy]

I do 5x becuase lazy

might be more stones to do 1 byt 1

have to test

[lusty grotto]

how many shards do you get?

coffer shards

[warm plinth]

You can't actually "kill" him. He just goes unconscious for like 10 seconds then heals to full

[lusty grotto]

compared to the ole one

[potent anvil]

I just do 1 at a time. Around 55~ valorstones per run. I never tried the 5x one. But I think that only offers more coffer shards, right?

Or is it more valorstones too

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats what im interested about

[tribal wharf]

55 vstones per heroic sounds right

thats more or less what i would get per du ngeon last week

[lusty grotto]

we're not talking about heroic

[potent anvil]

Worldsoul memory scenario thing

[lusty grotto]

we're talking about this yogi

lmao

i just read

"fivefold"

[neon elk]

U can actualy outrange it , not sure if worth , probably depends on class

[tribal wharf]

i did the radiant echo twice

[dusky canopy]

iirc i simply got 5x the shards

[mighty valley]

Why doesn't he do the delves himself if he's immortal

[dusky canopy]

i used them though so i cant count them

[lusty grotto]

how many coffer shards is the simple one? i forget

[potent anvil]

Around 25~

[lusty grotto]

oh

i see that makes sense

[tight prairie]

One pool per person + breaking yourself out with cc creates individual responsibility. The true final boss of pug content 😅

[potent anvil]

4 normal radiant echoes gives me a key and I just been sending it.

But I dunno, I'm a casual

[lusty grotto]

yeah im just gonna burn my 4 right now

[mellow quartz]

The 5x just saves time. Should be the same overall

[real fossil]

so do heroics give as many valorstones as mythic0s?

[timid nacelle]

I did a 5x echo yesterday and got 128 coffer shards

[lusty grotto]

27x per 1x so just multiply by 5

so thats about it

[mellow quartz]

It’s just a time saver

[timid nacelle]

Didn't do anything special just did the event as is, so 5x seems much more efficient

[lusty grotto]

yup

[toxic pewter]

so uh final boss of ara kara give you guys any trouble?

pug group was not able to do the mechanics

[strong forum]

Nah is pretty easy

Just stand in poop to not get succ

[toxic pewter]

yeah I had no issues...

[strong forum]

Dont get run over by poison wave gj

[toxic pewter]

I would outlive entire group literally 8 pulls