protection

[daring marlin]

I'm here to harass kanga

[proper roost]

and grass toucher (this one might be a lie he's on d4 like 24/7

[tribal wharf]

i aint do that aotc shit unless i get paid by u to run it and get carried and i dont have to speak to any

[vocal flame]

is this trinket really that bad that it doesnt outperform a 577

[daring marlin]

I afk on D4 a lot if that's what you mean!

[proper roost]

"afk"

"a lot"

"d4"

[vocal flame]

or does sim not work well with trinkets?

[proper roost]

"you"

[inland raft]

any reason to save carved stones or send it on m0 gear?

[cerulean tusk]

Send it on delve gear I guess

I dunno

Ask Kanga

[tribal wharf]

d4bad

hur

[daring marlin]

VoH gonna own

[warm plinth]

what's the 577?

[proper roost]

what is this

why did i get this debuff

[warm plinth]

Because someone has XP turned off

in your group

[proper roost]

why is someone exp locking themselves at 80

the level cap

[daring marlin]

because someone in your party duhhhh

[proper roost]

????

[warm plinth]

Enjoy your reduced XP toward 81 nerd

[queen hemlock]

Sorry just checking
Did they do something to shield block?
Having issues up keeping it above 88% uptime compared to df easily hitting 95%

[cerulean tusk]

They did it to lock their char at 70, but blizz fixed so you can't. They leveled the old way and never cared to go to the NPC to offically reenable the xp

To powerlevel day 1

[warm plinth]

Are you using Heavy Repercussions or Into the Fray?

[jagged gust]

Whats the strat for the spiral weave? I managed to LOS the boss cast once but after that shit was hitting me through walls

[queen hemlock]

Using both
Into the fray for raid and heavy on m+

[warm plinth]

Then idk, you should have no issues maintaining it with HR

In raid, it would be expected to have downtime

if using ItF

[tribal wharf]

hard to say, we would need logs and someone above me would tell you why you arent gaining enough or spending enough rage to make it 100%

in short, if youi play right, you have 100% uptime on it

[queen hemlock]

Mm yea should get some logs

Will do and return later

[warm plinth]

You should look up your toon on WCL

You might already have some.

People HAD to see this coming

[queen hemlock]

No nothing yet
Will grab go do some and log it
Nothing on m+ at least

[cerulean tusk]

Now only priest and slow classes being forced to go drak

[warm plinth]

We were about to enter another generation of Legion Arcane Torrent

[cerulean tusk]

I kinda can see it, but I chose ignorance

[proud dock]

if i got a vet weaopn this week, worth upgrading it to max now?

its crit mast

[cerulean tusk]

I would hold on

4 more delves for you tomorrow

[warm plinth]

If you're gonna do keys next week then it might be wise to save the valorstones. Even +2 will drop higher track

Unless you get a champ track from a delve ofc, then you can upgrade it for sure

[polar arrow]

did yall craft anything yet?

[cerulean tusk]

Nein

I wait for mythic and HC week tuning, cause no faith

[warm plinth]

Don't be a coward

https://tenor.com/bRn74.gif

[bleak breach]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

[small bone]

What's our BiS for this season?

[bronze pewter]

Only 4? I have 7 keys and then all the radiant thingies to do.

[south zealot]

bis what

[mellow quartz]

you can only do 4 bountiful delves per day so having 7 doesnt change how many you can do tomorrow

[daring marlin]

son of rat

[lusty grotto]

guilford u playing

[proper roost]

no

😦

[slim current]

Lmk once you get it figured out

[tribal wharf]

mythic 0 terrorism tommorow

i got 3 tanks ready for some of it

little bit wild to me that heroic dungeons dropping 580 gear

[neon elk]

U could get it to 580 pretty free anyway

[lusty grotto]

nothing personnel, its just business

nexus princess is such a great fight

you can tell who cant raid ffxiv for shit on it lmao

[neon elk]

Is this some raiding stuff im too m+ to understand ?

[jagged gust]

Drag the boss to one side of the room and leap and run across the room immediately when he starts casting, he does it after every 2nd frontal I believe? You have just enough time for the CD of leap to refresh, as long as you keep running you should at most take a single tick of damage before you outrange it

[lusty grotto]

1st piece

[slim current]

🫡

[jagged gust]

Also stop running once you notice you're not taking damage, I despawned him because brann snapped to me from being too far and dropped aggro

[lusty grotto]

that got me this

🙂

[oak ivy]

Is it plater profiles or an additional addon/WA that shows enemy cooldowns

[lone eagle]

How does the spell reflect work on Ovi

Does it affect the raid damage portion?

[lusty grotto]

no idea

im doing the heroic version right now

w

[lone eagle]

same

[lusty grotto]

normal was just dumb easy anyway

[lone eagle]

looks like according to the sheet they changed it since beta

[tropic tangle]

boss didn't actually feel like it did anything, use defensives for the AOE and just do dmg

[waxen zephyr]

So shield and boots are the only crafted items we should really pursue atm?

[lusty grotto]

boots?

[proper roost]

nimchip are u done yet

i'm eepy

[waxen zephyr]

Sanctified Steps from the guide on Wowhead.

[lusty grotto]

ddi you

read

what it says

because they are NOT what you should pursue

quite the contrary

and it says so right there

[proper roost]

poor nome

[lusty grotto]

i feel like you just saw those 2 and assumed we were taking them without reading

[valid bridge]

Man the caster boss on council is the only boss so far that actually hurt me lol

[graceful cobalt]

!sim

[pallid quiver]

normal council hard, web mechanic difficult

that's where the pug i was in got stomped at

[lusty grotto]

1 target patchwerk 3 mins or 5 mins = ST / Raid
5 target patchwerk 1.5 mins or 1 min = AOE / M+

[graceful cobalt]

thx

[lone eagle]

you kill it yet

We got it down like 10 minutes ago after some positional optimizing

[lusty grotto]

nah

we got here too late tbh

we're about done

oh dont worry

[proper roost]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-waiting-daunting-no-spongebob-squarepants-gif-5281390

[lone eagle]

We used a modified version of this

[lusty grotto]

yes we have something like that

this is ours ours was innacurate

[lone eagle]

Did third section first because tbh learning the hard section first means that anything past it is a kill pull attempt

we did 3-1-2 for the sections

I think there's an argument for 3 tanking on mythic

could see 2 BDKs alternating boss, dropping a healer and running a 3rd phys tank for spiders

[bleak parcel]

hey how's throngus's finger?

[pallid quiver]

DOES IT HAVE DODGE

DID YOU GET IT?

[bleak parcel]

yes

[pallid quiver]

I need to know

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

[bleak parcel]

well wdym have dodge

like static roll?

[pallid quiver]

the dodge stat

the one that doesn't exist

[lone eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-yhk-among-twerk-among-us-twerk-gif-23335803

Throngus Amogus

[bleak parcel]

it procs dodge but it doesnt have it statted lol

[pallid quiver]

anyhow it's probably not super great overall, since we're not dying much

[bleak parcel]

yeah thats what I figured

I also got the warband version of mark of khardos

i didnt even know that could happen LMFAO

[lusty grotto]

you can get warband anything

@proper roost give me a few

[bronze pewter]

you're right and im sorry.

[waxen orbit]

is there somewhere I can find what to craft first?

Dumb question, I know

Probably pinned somewhere

Do we even craft something this early in week 1?

[jagged gust]

you dont say

I wonder what checking them would lead to

we'll never know I suppose

[waxen orbit]

You can assume I checked the pinned here

mb

I delete my direct @

Most embellishments are currently untested, undertuned, or bugged to scale with character level instead of item level. This will presumably be corrected at some point before the start of Season 1, but makes it hard to accurately measure the value of crafted gear at this point.

If this isn't fixed by the start of Season 1, the best course of action is likely to save your first week's crafting materials or fill any missing holes in your gear. For example, players who do not have a high likelihood of raiding or maximizing their vault rewards may wish to consider crafting a weapon.

got it

[lone eagle]

I just went ahead and crafted shield and bracers

but I'm aiming for AoTC this week and I'

I'm an armorsmith so I can just recraft my own gear at low cost

I double crit embellished although when I upgrade my shield again I'll probably try Ascendance

Can someone close to Blizz put in the suggestion of having Colossus make us 15% bigger

I want to be yuge

[meager abyss]

GENTLEMEN

what embellishments are we running

[lone eagle]

WoWhead recommendations are double crit or vers lining but tbh I don't trust it

swapping off of those to try Ascendance soon

[warm plinth]

You don't trust it? 🤔

[small comet]

should i be waiting to use my catalyst armor upgrades till i get champ gear or should i send on myth tier?

[warm plinth]

How do you think they got those recommendations sir?

[small comet]

*veteran tier maxes at 606 ilvl

[lone eagle]

Maybe not "don't trust it", but feel it's a sim trap for a real prog environment/realistic usecase

the 80% health qualifier is pretty meh

[tired vessel]

the sims normally have an uptime % built in for that

[lusty grotto]

its not

cause BSL existed

and those follow the same rules

except instead of mastery its crit or vers

and they are active at 80%, instead of 90% which was BSL

sim traps or sim baits are never recommended by either Mwahi or Nome

they go by sims, but they are not stupid

[stray gazelle]

got this from delves is this considered bis in your guys opinion losing stam kinda sucks extra armor decent for more dam tho

[warm plinth]

what in the actual fuck is that 😂

[pallid quiver]

They really need to implement the leaver penalty faster

[lone eagle]

Fair, was mostly going off reading it and having some skepticism but if the grace period is super favorable I can see it

[warm plinth]

It's not really about a grace period. We just spend a lot more time in that health range (above 80%) than people seem to think we do.

[neon elk]

Damn, at least u can upgrade m0 shield for free

[warm plinth]

good point

[round pendant]

There's catch-up on sparks right

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[lone eagle]

Felt like Ovinax had me sub 80 most of the fight lol

Only fight so far thats felt like that

[pallid quiver]

As a follow-up to this, in a random raid encounter I picked, I went under 80 twice

for about 3 seconds

[lone eagle]

Heroic Council of threads isn't too bad so far

[lusty grotto]

how the fuck do i fix this

i didnt do anything and it just created the 2nd one today for some reason

WCL, that is

[warm plinth]

idk just click the delete button? XD

[lusty grotto]

but it has logs on one

hmm

[warm bloom]

just a backup one

[meager abyss]

should we be running haste / vers while gearing up? to avoid dying, that is

[undone beacon]

Now that dracthyr dont have the tail swipe racial CC, people less likely to race swap?

[neon elk]

Run highest ilvl and pres your butons to not die

[warm plinth]

Stats really have nothing to do with you dying or not.

[meager abyss]

@neon elk is ilvl really that important?

[warm plinth]

Just follow the normal stat priority. ilevel>haste>crit=vers>mast

[warm plinth]

Well, with both racials, it would've been basically every serious M+ player who played a class they could be would've been dracthyr.

[neon elk]

Yes, higher ilvl is better overal, unless its ring/trinket , and later if its piece that completes set, but thats debatable

I was considering dracthyr because its pretty much human with double jump and glide . But cba , love my dwarf

[slim current]

second wind. heal when hes burrowed. save major cds during swarm. i took healer brann too.

[warm plinth]

You don't get double jump on dracthyr anyway

Just the glide part

[undone beacon]

You get half an a press jump

I was considering swapping to Dracthyr from Goblin but I might just stay gobbo. Or go Earthen

[warm plinth]

I just swapped from dwarf to goblin so I could queue heroics with a horde friend

[neon elk]

Did they chanfe that ?

[warm plinth]

No, dracthyrs have never had double jump

[neon elk]

Realy ? Am i triping or what ? xd

[undone beacon]

It's a "double jump" only in the sense that hitting space again activates glide, versus a DH that gets a full second jump

You dont get any extra height as dracthyr

[warm plinth]

It's a pretty common misconception, so don't feel bad lol

Yeah, DH is space = jump, space again = jump higher, space again = glide

[neon elk]

Och , well one less reason to not swap

[warm plinth]

Dracthyr is space = jump, space again = glide

[undone beacon]

Jump -> Glide vs Jump -> Jump -> glide, yeah

[neon elk]

Good good

[undone beacon]

I've really enjoyed the rock dwarf vibe more than I thought, and having some extra throughput through the bonus armor seems nice

Plus I eat motherfuckin rocks

[warm plinth]

I like the new racial they just got where they can literally just eat whenever, though it doesn't matter much for this class

Or that they're getting I guess, w/e

idk if that was put in yet

[undone beacon]

My biggest issue is I've made myself a guild meme for only playing goblins so swapping my warrior off would ruin the image smh

[warm plinth]

Good if you're a healer in keys though!

To earthen or drac?

[mental scarab]

What delv did you do

[undone beacon]

To either lol

[warm plinth]

Hear me out though

Swap earthen right

And then when someone questions it you can be like yeah I was really lazy for a long time, and I just got all fossilized and shit

[neon elk]

Darkiron ftw

[undone beacon]

Pffffft lmfao

[warm plinth]

Just RP that shit so you're still a goblin

Just one that was so lazy you turned to stone

[undone beacon]

Always a goblin at heart

Too good of a warband screen tho

[warm plinth]

My hunter is a female goblin

Because female goblins have the greatest (and it's not close) feign death animation in the game.

[undone beacon]

I'm hoping we get an industrial/mech/goblin themed warband screen

[undone beacon]

truth

We'll see what the future holds, I also dont neccesarrily want to give more money to blizz than I have to lol

[warm plinth]

Yeah that's always a good reason not to do something

I can almost swap freely right now since I bought a bundle of faction swaps like a year ago

when they were on sale

[undone beacon]

Ah fair fair

They’ll probably have a sale during the anniversary event so, eh

I’m happy as a goblin regardless

Only annoying thing is rocket jump disabling heroic leap

[meager abyss]

is Drac'thyr really that good?

[jagged gust]

+30% speed is enough to get me to swap

[coarse lynx]

think dwarf still the best.

but speed is nice

[pastel sleet]

will catalyst be once a week or once every other week this season?

[neon elk]

Every other iir

[lusty grotto]

catalyst should be weekly

spark 1 half every week so every 2 weeks

[neon elk]

Players will gain one charge of Harmonized Silk Harmonized Silk with the start of Season 1, and then receive another charge every other week after Week 1.

Thats from wowhead post from like 12h ago

[lusty grotto]

i stand corrected then

[neon elk]

Its a shame tho, still hope for change

[round cliff]

is stinging swarm just guaranteed death

how tf

[neon elk]

Nah its doable at 8

[round cliff]

how tho...

i press shield wall for one of em, last stand for another, then its gg

[neon elk]

pop wall, sr and demo shout on first , impending vixtory right after , on second , demo , sr, , last stand , healing pot midway, impending as soon as u can to get back , on 3rd your wall should be back up and just do the 1st again, then it should die , or at least died for me

Ive heard people set bran as heal for this , ive had him on dmg and it worked fine, was hardest from my 4 delves tho , didnt do waxface yet

[ionic fern]

Don't forget to defensive stance.

[neon elk]

Also not realy sure if spell block works on that . But spam your IPs

Yea i was in dstance whole dvelve , rarely swap to bstance tbh

Some people claim that runing 50-60yd away helps, ive had bad experience with that and was easier to face tank it and heal via leech at least something

[round cliff]

got his ass

didnt even need last stand

demo shout was the key i missed

never rly thought to use it as a defensive before lmao

[neon elk]

Yea just spam that shit, so low cd

[ionic fern]

Relatable, ngl.

[round cliff]

well i did spam it before

thats what got me killed

this time i saved the 1st one for swarm so they lined up for every swarm after

def stance/spell reflect/demo shout u dont even need to shieldwall or last stand

shit does 0 dmg

[neon elk]

Yea ive died first time on him for some dumb mistakes so second attempt i added more stuff ( wall a stand) and it worked like charm

Still feels way harder than rest of what i did yesterday

[round cliff]

is a knowledge check

[proper roost]

i had to press like 3 panic cds when i was healing that one

and as it happened I was like "ohh, this is the thing people were talking about"

good times

it wasn't that panicked I guess since I literally typed "oh, it's this one" while it was happening

anyhow, what ilvl is your warrior now @lusty grotto

[slim current]

This. I was lucky enough to watch sloot dick it down at 578 ilvl and then I got it done at 591 first try. Knowing when to press what helped a lot and yeah 3rd swarm wall should be back up. I took heal brann tho for that fight

[round cliff]

i didnt even press shield wall when i killed it lol

def stance + spell reflect + demo shout = it does no damage gg

[ionic fern]

Doing Delves as a tank+DPS is stupid easy, just do that.

[astral surge]

spiral weave delve soloable?

[lusty grotto]

601

602 now

got 3 hero pieces today

and hero helm last night

[proper roost]

nice

i uh

think i'm gonna degen 2 pvp 610 pieces

🙈

[meager abyss]

so there is no gear ilvl increase past 8 delves?

[ruby berry]

correct

[bleak breach]

https://tenor.com/view/you-do-you-point-nod-yes-good-gif-5281405

[cerulean musk]

I know that MT is better in Mythic/Delves but I’m curious if anyone is running Colossus because they enjoy it more or is the gap big enough it’s not worth it?

[grizzled orbit]

how are we doing in m+ guys, havnt started yet

[south zealot]

m+ isnt out

so its not doing good

[grizzled orbit]

oh, isnt season 1 started

aha

why 😦

[nocturne thistle]

What's everyone crafting with the 2 sparks?

[jagged pier]

[grizzled orbit]

:siren: Don't craft using your spark yet, tuning is still ongoing. :siren:

[nocturne thistle]

Thank you

[rigid hull]

when will the tuning end

next week?

[ionic fern]

Tuning of what?

Tuning never ends.

Typically they do a bigger tuning pass after HC and/or Mythic week.

And then go from there.

[jagged pier]

And then another after the race is over

Then kinda chill till the next patch

[jagged gust]

but you better believe those prepatch tunes will come a rollin'

[dark plover]

Wait and craft using your spark until season is over, just to be safe

[hollow owl]

Hi guys. do you have any suggestions for a tinker socket in the wrist slot?

[rigid hull]

what does this do

[jagged pier]

Coffer keys

[fallow beacon]

strongly recommend execute build on rashanan

big deeps

[strong forum]

True, the boss starts on 60% so you have tons of execute uptime

[fallow beacon]

yep yep

[violet ginkgo]

gg 100% parse

[strong forum]

Also 607, how much gear did you get fed

[fallow beacon]

none just did pvp and crafted 610s

[wispy fulcrum]

can you get pvp gears without versa?

[strong forum]

You can craft gear that uses the pvp "crests"

[neat parrot]

so are we using sparks yet or we still wait for reset?

[strong forum]

There's no content that requires high ilvl shield

So you can wait and see if you get one from vault or mythic first boss

Otherwise you can just send your craft if you're desperate

[fallow beacon]

you craft it using the algari plate recipes with a missive

via a blacksmith

[wispy fulcrum]

thanks ❤️

[fallow beacon]

or jeweller etc for rings

[rigid hull]

the stat is wrong on this trinket?

in sim website

its 2800 crit

[trim wind]

Are you using any WA for Ignore Pain, like when it should be used as rage dump or whatever above a certain rage

Or just using your eyes on rage bar?

[strong forum]

Eyes

[strong forum]

Yes tooltips on most websites are fuck

Ignore those, what matters is what the sim works with, and its using the correct data the tooltip is just outdated

[rigid hull]

Alright

Thanks

[graceful kite]

70 rage you press ip

no weakaura needed

[ebon geyser]

is that map for delves only from bountiful?

[wispy fulcrum]

my friend gotten from regular while doing lower tiers so prob no

[strong forum]

They can drop from any delve, but only apply to the next bountiful delve you do

[bleak breach]

what's detachable fang like?

i can't see it on bloodmallet

[round cliff]

im trying to figure this out myself to avoid starving myself as much as i do

assuming im already IP and shield blocked up then im trying to only press IP macro when over like 80 or when im about to press tblast or when i have an outburst proc

but i feel like i miss out on ss resetting from autos when i do that too hard

[strong forum]

Get a habit of pressing IP between globals

That's what I do

[round cliff]

i usually do

[strong forum]

Not always, obv

But idk how else to explain it, often times I also send 2 IPs to get avatar back a bit earlier even tho I'll "starve" myself empty, but avatar grants TB and resets it

So you can continue from there

[round cliff]

im either pressing IP between globals or pressing IP macro before builders just incase ss happens to reset right when i wanna press clap or smth

[strong forum]

Same goes for outburst, you see you're 1/2 IP away from outburst and SS is coming up

So you IP > outburst SS

[round cliff]

yea i try to do that too

[strong forum]

I only have the macro

I don't have 2 IP binds

Only 1

[round cliff]

yea same

[strong forum]

K

[round cliff]

i have ip macro and ss on its own

like god intended

ig theres way too much nuance to ask specifics tho, just kinda gotta feel it out until i stop wasting outburst procs on regular clap/stop starving myself

if i can do that then im probably good enough

[strong forum]

Prot got both harder and easier with MT

Easier cuz outburst on TB isn't the end of the world in ST

Harder cuz it got faster with the resetting

And execute rotation is also harder

[round cliff]

i havent even tried to rly learn execute rotation yet

in my head its just
execute if >60

[chilly brook]

Press execute and profit

[round cliff]

press revenge then execute if 40

gg probably good

[chilly brook]

Jk don’t listen to me I haven’t even gotten my warrior to 71

[rich beacon]

Just let the other tank have aggro in raid and press execute 😄

[strong forum]

Execute if >70

But

[chilly brook]

5 more days and I’m home

[strong forum]

You get so many TBs and SS resets you barely get time to send execute

[chilly brook]

[strong forum]

That's the hard part

[round cliff]

why 70

[strong forum]

Das what sim said

[chilly brook]

So you can still SB

[round cliff]

we trust the robot around here

[strong forum]

Sim said 70 more dmg than 60

[round cliff]

PRAISE THE MACHINE

[chilly brook]

Automated maths is great

[round cliff]

but like... execute dmg caps at 40
and if u spend at 60, that brings u to 20, u can still execute/revenge again

i dont get it :(

[strong forum]

Yeah but not SB

Or IP

[round cliff]

ah ig so

[strong forum]

IP is 35 so you get it rather quickly

That would be my thot process

[round cliff]

but if ur in execute phase and not spending rage on ip dumps to tank

shouldnt u be pressing more revenge

than ip

[strong forum]

Revenge??

No

Revenge is only there to reset SS

[round cliff]

oh ip reset ss inbetween gcd

so its better

ok robot makes sense now

[strong forum]

IP spends rage off-gcd

Revenge spends it on-gcd

Meaning you don't generate

But with IP you can spend and generate

So you spend more time generating

[round cliff]

still tho how are u getting up to 70 rage if ur spending IP on resets

[strong forum]

Who says you're doing that in execute

[round cliff]

well if u ss and clap and nothing resets and ur below 70

u gotta press something

[strong forum]

That's when you revenge

[round cliff]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

[strong forum]

You didn't specify your scenario lol

[round cliff]

i thought we've been talking abt execute 😭

[strong forum]

Yeah but you never specified that both tc and SS aren't ready

[round cliff]

well if ur builders r ready u press them

no exceptions

[strong forum]

Like execute rota is just hard

Cuz you get so much rage and can barely spend it on execute

[round cliff]

prob easier to just figure it out than talk abt it

[strong forum]

Cuz execute resets SS

[round cliff]

execute dummies when

[strong forum]

Kelpfist

You can pummel that fuck into execute

By yourself

[round cliff]

WHO

[strong forum]

The training raid dummy

[round cliff]

oh

[strong forum]

In dornogal

Is called kelpfist

[round cliff]

he has a name??? cute

[tropic pond]

can a shout macro combined with mod like alt/shift?

[trim wind]

Thank you!

[tropic pond]

i wanna make a spell reflect macro thats tell anyone i have spell reflect up

[strong forum]

Weakaura better for that

Cuz macro will send the shout even if you don't actually send SR

[rigid hull]

i feel like this channel is one of the best for asking questions etc

using other class/spec channels

was not a good exprience

💀

[strong forum]

[tropic pond]

alright, time to tinker then

[long stone]

See see nome is on arms again - no tanking this Season ?

[strong forum]

I would raid tank but that slot is locked in

But m+ idk

Will have to see how fun it is, but dps prolly more fun still

But I ain't gonna get to dps m+ for a while

[honest hare]

hey, i'm new to tanking this season so... as a tank what do i look for in logs to improve? first survive the fight but then? Same as DPS looking out to max dmg or looking at Healing done or something else?

[strong forum]

Blocked hits of melee attacks, rage generated/wasted, casts per minute

And compare to good prot warrior logs to see what it should look like

[honest hare]

under which sektion do i find that?

[strong forum]

Several

Resources -> Rage

[night heron]

That's interesting, I've been trying to find when I should execute and the guide doesn't mention it
When you say execute if rage > 70, you mean execute takes prio over revenge only, or over both TC and SS?

[strong forum]

Over SS and TC, but not TB and not if you have Burst of Power procs

[blazing condor]

blocked hits is "damage taken --> melee --> hover mouse over "hits"

[honest hare]

Ok thank you i will check that 🙂

[night heron]

Alright, thanks!
And is it the same with Colossus? We're a lot more rage starved as Col so should we still prio SS to build up before spending rage on execute?

Also, is there any way we can access the detailed sims like the one you mentioned about the rage threshold for execute? Sometimes I wonder about minmaxy stuff like that which usually doesn't show up in guides, being able to check out precisely the ideal simmed rotation would be great

[orchid mural]

Thoughts on this shield guys? Appears pretty decent TBH

[honest hare]

ok how do i interpret this (it's Damage Taken from First Boss Nhc, killtime 4:38) should Mitigated (Second to last number - 76.73%) be way higher or is that ok?

[glacial grove]

Hello. What is the goal for haste this season? I feel like 15k-16k would be fine.

[strong forum]

Hover mouse over hits column it tells you how many hits you blocked or didn't

[strong forum]

As much as you can get

But bis profile for dmg has roughly 15k haste and 16k crit

[glacial grove]

Thats even easier 😄

[orchid gulch]

There's no haste cap. So on a theoretical basis, the more the merrier, until Mr simbot tells you it's time to get something else.

[honest hare]

ah 6 out of 10 hits blocked^^

[strong forum]

Yeah so that's, not good

[honest hare]

ok second boss is 46 our of 51 hits xD

so it schould be more like that right so kind of 90% of hits blocked right?

[strong forum]

In raid technically 100%

[honest hare]

yikes xD

[strong forum]

As close to 100 as possible

[honest hare]

ok... so how do i improve that? more blockchance through crit orbetter use of SB etc.?

[sullen wadi]

are all the delve trinkets just completely useless?

[blazing condor]

doing your rotation correctly mostly. Not having your back towards enemies (you cant block when hit from behind)

so make sure you got the right talents and then work on getting that high CPM/rage generation

by pressing ur buttons and doing rotation correctly

[honest hare]

🫡

Thanks everyone 😁

[strong forum]

Also sometimes holding off on sending SB when not actively tanking

[honest hare]

ok one last question in terms of Rage (this is again fist boss raw gain / wasted / gain) i think wasted should tend to 0 or be 0 in best cases right?

[thorn egret]

anyone know if you can block/parry during this cast?

[long stone]

I mean no

[strong forum]

Yeah, here you wasted over 12% of your rage

Goal should be as close to 0 as possible

You missed out on 1 entire outburst cast and probably 1 entire avatar cast

35sec of raw cooldown reduction in avatar is what you missed out on

On just 1 boss

[strong forum]

Dunno, and it's a pretty bad trinket for us

[honest hare]

uf... ok time for training i guess... thx for the patient i'm now back to lurking mode 😅

[strong forum]

Cuz it comes with less stats on the item itself and our cds don't line up with it

[thorn egret]

just as well i got it at 610 then

[strong forum]

Crest saver

[worthy bear]

Hi everyone, I wanted to ask you what the priority is for me to put my two embellishment items? Ty for all !

[strong forum]

Ideally low stat budget slots

Like bracers/belt/boots/cloak

If you plan on crafting shield you can also slam it on there unless you will have easy access to 639 shields

(first boss drops literally everything, 1h + 2h and shield)

[tribal wharf]

3rd boss drops 1 hand crit haste weapon

if you can make it that far and loot that item

[rain light]

T11 delves are hard lol, getting one shot

Might actually need to be recommended ilvl for it

[vocal flame]

I have that one and that’s the only trinket I got so far on your entire list too haha. I did a T8 delve yesterday and got some garbage candle wick trinket which wasn’t even on the list 😭

[tribal wharf]

speaking of trinkets, the gnash one is bad, really bad

actually does no dmg

[rain light]

I have that one too :(

No shield drop either

[vocal flame]

Yeah here too. Everyone was posting shields and I got so happy lol. Bad luck

[rain light]

I need just shield and belt

[tribal wharf]

lfr was good to me

hell, i wont complain

this trinket is the one i spoke of GARBAGE

[vague abyss]

yeah raid boss drops our weapons and shield, sadly im not the guild tank so im not seeing those for the near term 😦

[tribal wharf]

chance to deal 70k dmg ST and if your lucky it crits for double

total dog shit delete trinket, only reason i didnt deleted it yet is cuz veteran tier

literal first thing i will vendor delete once veteran + geared

[vocal flame]

I’m tired of deleting trinkets. They should just give extra talents or something else for tanks

[tribal wharf]

it has a purpose for now, i can boosted its ilvl and then boosted a second one, eventually upgrade trinkets to 606 i think it is without carved only valors

[vague abyss]

yep 606 is the roof for now until we get m+

[tribal wharf]

i was 586 ever since like saturday on pwar, most of my gear is tertiary

[atomic fox]

Worth crafting anything this week?

[tribal wharf]

so, gunna be slow for gear for me

[vague abyss]

idk... i think crafted gear will get you to 581? i guess we will need to wait for harbringers runes to make something worth to craft

[bleak breach]

Yeah I’ve got it aswell, it’s not great. Doing around 3% of my damage from its proc on pure single target

[vocal flame]

Unless your mythic raiding or going for some crazy push keys it’s a jog not a sprint

[unreal lily]

What level keys to we have to hit to get keystone master?

[mellow quartz]

7’s

[strong forum]

Candle wick is better

Alot better

[molten gorge]

looted a 603 one today

every time I try to use an external emote (and can't) in this discord a little piece of me dies

[waxen frigate]

It’s not terrible in ST

[tribal wharf]

i ran it in a heroic im pretty sure, could have been lfr

but it only did what it said it does on the box and not a hell of alot more, and not a too often to boot

it seems like it needs to charge up before it goes off like you have to attack only the same target til it builds some form of stacks, shown or hiddn

i wasnt impressed with its contribution to dmg, at least its veteran and str stick

[crimson cypress]

[tribal wharf]

assas rogue shitting pants

sounds alot like deadly poison TBH

give that shit to your rogue, or your hunter, and watch them go wild on the dps charts

[plush tendon]

dats a nice ring

[crimson cypress]

mmmhmm it is

[vocal flame]

wasnt the one listed on your wowhead guide it was the other one with crit only

simmed 25k less dps than my 577 trinkets lol

[strong forum]

Yah I didn't wanna overbloat the list

25k

That sounds, very wrong

[vocal flame]

right? i posted the pic in the discord let me see if i can find it

40k

this one

[strong forum]

That's wildfire wick

Not candle

Also you're 100% simming aoe

[vocal flame]

sorry messed up the names

[strong forum]

Candle is the on use that grants ton of haste

That one is good

Wildfire wick is absolute trash garbage

Straight up F tier

[vocal flame]

yeah haha

[rain light]

another candle

[vocal flame]

that looks way better

[tribal wharf]

what slots are you guys sending carveds on

i figured would do weapon and shield if i ever get a new shield

ya, last night got this on my bdk

realllly would have liked that on warrior

[woven radish]

So got a 603 shield from delves, got super excited..... but then saw it has no stam? Wtg

[plush tendon]

I got the 610 version on my DK

dont know if its good

but at least I have a 610 and 613 trinket now XD

[warm plinth]

Yeah, though at least now you can upgrade an m0 shield for free

[plush tendon]

^ the real gains

[woven radish]

Fair enough

[plush tendon]

yall also know about the PVP crafted gear yea?

relatively easy to get 610 crafted pieces

[woven radish]

Feel like the world/delve tank specific stuff is terrible. Also got a 610 trinket that only slightly reduces make attacks by like 22k... some really unexciting loot

[plush tendon]

tank trinkets are pretty piss this tier

[tribal wharf]

shield and weapon ilvl gives you + to stats that no other item can directly boost

you can only make meaningful gains in block power through block value, which is only on shield

[plush tendon]

who knows, we might get some tuning

would be pretty bad design if Ara Kara trinket is BiS for literally everyone

[stray gazelle]

The one in hallowfall

[south zealot]

it’s like 40% uptime

pretty good

[south zealot]

should buff other passive trinkets

they pretty much all completely fucking suck

also the bee trinket is insanely op

[proper roost]

i thought they nerfed it

is it still fucked

[tribal wharf]

mastery one is good, but im not a fan of it

its that damn puzzle box from DF AA i think it is all over again

on use, mastery, bleh

no ty

[south zealot]

oh did they

[tender cove]

Have a solid 3 hours today for first time since early access.
Is delves what i should be doing or?

[south zealot]

yes

or raid

[tender cove]

ohh raid open this week, thought it was next 😮

[tender cove]

solo or group delves?

[plush tendon]

you can prob solo

but I found 2 person delves at level 8 to be the sweet spot

no healers though

tank+dps player+dps brann

[marble cipher]

Yeah, solo is fine, but it's easier/faster/more fun to bring a dps friend.
Or healer friend I guess.
And you'll help someone run a t8 a lot smoother that way too. Can only imagine how annoying they are for solo healers for instance

[round pendant]

What debuffs do y'all track on your plater (or blacklist)

I think I'm finally tired of how crowded my plater gets in dungeons

I think I should just hide bleeds and punished since that stuff just happens naturally

can't think of why I would need to see em

[tribal wharf]

make sure you guys are running curse forge every morning

typically i wake up run that, and it tells me at least 3 addons, some times up to lik 8 -10 have an update ready, crucial for dungeons if its dbm or mdt or something gets updates

[round pendant]

Thanks yogi!!

[blazing condor]

i blacklisted pretty much all the "happens anyway" debuffs

so rend/deep wounds, TC debuff / demo shout

[round pendant]

Yeah I guess we're not really a class that needs to track debuffs

other than stuns I suppose

[blazing condor]

i only really kept the CC stuff to be able to see how long they got left

if someone didnt get ccd

[plush tendon]

healers are poop in delves

[real fossil]

a visual reminder to get deep wounds up isnt the worst thing on visual clutter

[plush tendon]

they make things hit harder

[round pendant]

Deep Wounds just happens though

[real fossil]

but punish is pretty useless information

idk sometimes in all of the spam and procs ill forget to revenge once

[proper roost]

you def do not want to bring a healer if you're duoing delves

thinking about it, you definitely don't need them for high-damage boss delves either since you'd just kill the boss within one rotation of w/e

it's slightly annoying for the dps to have to selfheal between packs tho

(fwiw when nimchip and i were trio'ing delves earlier, i healed and we still killed the stinging swarm boss in 1 stinging swarm, so i don't think me being dps would really have mattered)

could just be REALLY bad at ele tho

[tribal wharf]

is it one of these things i have to pay attention or i lose the key and or loot for the delve

[round pendant]

I think the stinging swarm thing is overtuned

didn't kill me in a +8 though

deleted my friend (healer) tho

[tribal wharf]

how many players can you take to it? i wonder if aug or enhance shamans are good for em

[round pendant]

5

[tribal wharf]

well, with 5 i assume monster boss will be very stronger

[proper roost]

He was healing and he couldn't heal himself through it?

[round pendant]

yea it was hitting like 1.5m a tick

[proper roost]

Ok

I literally healed through it

and 2 other nerds last night

and I was typing the whole time

[round pendant]

it was weird cause

He did that ability a few times and some of the times it did no damage to me at all

[proper roost]

Your friend is weak. He will not survive the coming winter (keys)

[round pendant]

and other times it took me down to 20%

through defensives

I genuinely think it's bugged

[proper roost]

how do you get multiple

💀 jesus

weak

[round pendant]

Are we playing the same game?

[proper roost]

nimchip was literally on his like 540 ilvl ret pally and I was outdpsing him as resto

@lusty grotto

he can vouch for this i was literally typing mid stinging swarm

while healing us through it

think i even cast a lava burst in it

we only got one
i remember this because i was specifically thinking "oh i'll probably have to ascendance the next one" and then the boss was dead

[round pendant]

It's all meaningless without logs

It was ticking a ridiculous amount of damage

for us

I feel like group comp affects it a lot

maybe tank + healer is like gigabad

[proper roost]

🤨

[round pendant]

Ours didn't die very fast at all either

granted my friend died so I was soloing lmao

[graceful kite]

I did 8 delves as tank+healer

Healers offsets bad dage by picking rage curio for brann

Brann does nice dmg with it

[round pendant]

Yeah I did a bunch of delves with my friend too, that was the only time he died

[graceful kite]

Swarm was doing big damage but i pressed s defensive and it was fine

[proper roost]

bad damage think every healer can do 2-400k st rn

[graceful kite]

You dont have to heal a tank (pwar atleast) in delves

[proper roost]

more on the lower end if not rdruid

[round pendant]

Y'all acting like we struggled through delves

[graceful kite]

I don't know how to do 400k st on healer priest

[round pendant]

it was just that singular ability that for some reason chunked him for 90% of his health every tick

granted he was 550 ilvl

that might be relevant

[graceful kite]

I struggled in a fungal delve on a dh

[round pendant]

it hurt me too though, but inconsistently so I'm just saying it feels like a weird ability

[graceful kite]

Died twice to fel rush and hunt into shit on final boss and ragequit

Very hard class

[round pendant]

That delve with the light dash thing pissed me off

boss is like on a tiny platform and if you press the action ability while moving backwards you just yeet off the platform

lmao

luckily you can quickly just zip back on but man

[graceful kite]

Disc priest if very fun btw

[vocal nimbus]

hello

[round pendant]

Yeah I levelled one

[vocal nimbus]

ppl are playing punish or execute on hc?

[round pendant]

feels kinda same as DF disc but I guess the voidblast thing is cool af

[graceful kite]

You shoot void beams from your hands

Yeah its insanely cool

[round pendant]

and shields seem a little stronger this time

[graceful kite]

Both visuals and sound

[round pendant]

My friend refuses to play disc tho, fuckin boomer

he's like HEALERS HEAL

[graceful kite]

But radiance still having trouble with stairs any los thing and pets

[proper roost]

Smite

Halo (does damage)

🤷 (think only rdruids and maybe farseer rshams can do 400k st)

[graceful kite]

Raid healing on disc is great

[round pendant]

It might not be optimal (idk) but triple halo for holy is pretty poggers

[graceful kite]

I wrote a weakaura text with ramp timers and just laid back until i had to ramp

[proper roost]

1m damage a second is not "90% of your hp every tick," nontanks in ~550-590 have roughly 3-4M hp

[graceful kite]

Maybe he had ilvl from shitty slots

[hoary pivot]

waterworks delve on t8 with 599 ilvl

no fucking chance

[proper roost]

those have hp 🤷

[graceful kite]

Whats wrong with it?

[hoary pivot]

the boss gives you zero melee uptime and the mechanic they apparently planned for the aoe ticks is bugged

[round pendant]

he had like 3.2m hp lmao

ok it wasn't 90% it was hyperbole

[graceful kite]

Was fine for me

[hoary pivot]

the boss does a periodic ticking aoe that ticks for several mils per tick that should be avoidable via thepuddles but isnt

[graceful kite]

Bring rdps friend if you're struggling

[hoary pivot]

and the tuning for solo vs duo seems to be switched

[graceful kite]

It didn't tick that hard for me

[hoary pivot]

bc on duo it seems to just hit for less according to wowhead

[marble cipher]

It feels easier overall as duo compared to solo tank. I think I heard Sloot mention something about that too on stream.
I know I'll be bringing a friend every day to delves. Win win

[solid cargo]

You can also just drag people in via group finder. Any old random could be useful.

[tawdry prism]

I thought you could leap away and out range it

[rain light]

woo

[proper roost]

heroic

🤔

[pallid quiver]

They're going to bail after first boss

I once again wish for a oenalty for leavers to be implemented faster

[proper roost]

but its m0

there would never be a leaver penalty

[pallid quiver]

I personally recommend banning them for 4 years. Helps the gen pop and the leaver; they don't want to play the game anyway

[proper roost]

i'd be down for a first boss only m0 ara-kara

[pallid quiver]

I'm fine with first boss only,

[proper roost]

it's definitely easier, as long as your dps friend isn't dog

don't bring a healer they're just going to heal themselves

[pallid quiver]

I'm not fine with full run groups having people ditch because "FUCK U CHET ME DPS BY NO DROP TRINKY REEEEEEE" as they pull 20k dps

[proper roost]

🤔

i think you might be overreacting a bit

[pallid quiver]

I don't think I am, considering how people act.

But I also am very biased against WoW players in general, since I have very few good experiences with people. Like I always say, I play this game in spite of the community.

Like, yesterday I had a rogue bitch me out the entire run for not optimizing to "muh damage" and not going fast enough, then he said fuck you to everyone in chat when he didn't get sac brood and he dipped

[solid sun]

You play the game in spite of the community but then join a discord for the game where you become even more entrenched within the community

[pallid quiver]

Which is, funny enough, almost what I posted above

[proper roost]

i did a bunch of heroics last week where people left midrun

it was fine? waited like <30s to get a new fill

and we finished?

🤨

[pallid quiver]

Heroics have a queue system behind them

We still finished the M0 with the 4 of us, as well,

But like,

[proper roost]

he's spitting tho fr...

[pallid quiver]

You don't go up to someone, agree to a meet, and then tell them all to fuck off halfway through the event because you're butthurt

[pallid quiver]

I joined to become better at playing Prot War

I only started talking once I saw people I wanted to talk to

So like

Your armchair philosophy didn't work out, sorry

[solid sun]

It isn’t armchair philosophy. It’s noting that you aren’t practicing quality self care

Please take care of yourself

[proper roost]

he ain't wrong

as always, if the pug community doesn't make you enjoy the game, the solution is to find a community of people to play the game with that would

i think there's still that one discord that's like low stress m+ or whatever idr what the actual name of that shit is

[plush tendon]

only one more week before we can resegregate ourselves

[proper roost]

true

i did a few m0s as ele last night/day before and holy hell

the pug healers out there are struggling

[plush tendon]

we had a good one last night

[toxic pewter]

just got this havent looked into it at all is this any good

[plush tendon]

but we also had 4 guildies

[proper roost]

had a holy priest doing 0 damage and whole group was sitting at 50% hp for like 40 seconds like

[plush tendon]

and pulling M0s like it was heroic

[proper roost]

i was just sitting there thinking like "damn what are u doing literally"

begging to drink water every pull somehow

despite doing negative healing

[plush tendon]

pug healers refuse to press CDs

I swear when I was doing normal spam for leveling I would get so triggered just watching HPals sitting on wings and aura mastery

like bro, Im going boss to boss; press your damn CDs

[lofty beacon]

i recommend finding people you wanna play with

like the mythic plus friends discord and stuff!

[plush tendon]

and its not a matter of me dying... just taking longer cause people be dying

[proper roost]

yeah idr where i said this but all the newbie healers in healing discs rn are complaining about tanks being squishy

[plush tendon]

[proper roost]

and I was like "it's the same for you, most common new tank/healer mistake is to just not use cds"

[plush tendon]

kek

[solid sun]

I’ve only leveled my prot warrior thus far so I’m not sure how other specs and roles are experiencing the expansion but I have noticed healers are extremely varied right now in skill

[proper roost]

goes both ways p much exactly same mistake for both

roles

[plush tendon]

tru

moral of the story.... press your buttons

[proper roost]

tbh I guess this is true of DPS too

hold on

[tribal wharf]

the circles on the first boss of ara kara clapped me man

[proper roost]

I saw this log the other day

for someone asking for dps help on their raid

[crisp nexus]

😮

[lofty beacon]

also gonna be honest, m0 is m10 and everyone coming in at 570 is undergeared and gonna be squishy

and that's okay

it'll just make runs when people are geared easier

[proper roost]

look at this timeline @plush tendon

💀

[tribal wharf]

spider boss over powered

[proper roost]

edged stormbringer cast for a whole 6 seconds because they were overthinkin when to use it

insanely based

[tribal wharf]

i wanna watch the video see what happened

[plush tendon]

[proper roost]

Keys will actually be easier because the buffs are absurdly generous

weirdly enough

[plush tendon]

youll also prob get better players

I can still see last season IO

[solid sun]

Did the spider eat the adds

And enrage

Or was that what the circles did to you

[lofty beacon]

first time we did it, it ate ALL the adds and i got hit for 6.5 LOL

[tribal wharf]

swirl apparently

[solid sun]

lol I saw the spiders and thought I needed to tank them

So I leapt over to them and the boss ate them and we were like oh no oh no oh no

Got absolutely clapped. Was hilarious

[lofty beacon]

btw wowhead or icy guide?

just getting back into prot (i know late) and want to pick it up quicky

neither updated nvm

[tribal wharf]

got clapped by swirlies it looks like

[uncut basin]

I jusdt crafted a shield, would a weapon or wrist be better for the next craft? mainly a M+ player and don't do any mythic raids

[proper roost]

?

[lofty beacon]

linked in faq are pre patch but i found the season 1 builds in there so all g

[proper roost]

Both of them are updated?

[plush tendon]

I mean, our advice is to wait and see how tuning of embellishments play out

but you can craft what you want

[lofty beacon]

yeah the ones linked in faq are for pre patch but i used my smooth chicken cutlet brain and navigated to the season 1 ones lol

[plush tendon]

we are at two crafts this week

and in another two weeks we'll get a third craft

[real fossil]

is mastery still lightyears behind the other secondaries

[plush tendon]

lightyears is a strong term

like, at equal levels other stats will be worth more usually (sim to confirm)

[dusky canopy]

Hollyy ele blaster

[proper roost]

yea it owns one of the best cast timelines i've ever seen

[real fossil]

yeah im in queue now...im play fury and prot about equally so trying to decide what stat combo and im pretty sure haste/mastery is the best of both worlds

for a crafted piece

[plush tendon]

focus on your fury set

and follow that stat prio

[real fossil]

luckily thats haste mastery or vers mastery so why not grab the haste

[plush tendon]

seems fine to me

[proper roost]

just literally doesn't matter, people do top world keys with unoptimized secondaries

especially this early in the season like...

[plush tendon]

yea, but for crafted

you wanna choose the right stats now

so you dont have to buy another missive

thats a gold loss

[real fossil]

im going to craft this once and then recraft with an enchanted crest and never think about it again

[light delta]

Which garbage trinket do I decide to use? Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife or Wildfire Wick 😦

[real fossil]

i believe in the heart of the cards, so i will get lucky on a wep drop

[plush tendon]

doesnt Ritual Knife unironically sim really well

[shell fox]

whos better?

more str or mid str+haste?

(ik theres a 2 min cd 5k str)

[proper roost]

well

the first one you have to cast the onuse for 1.5s

if that changes your mind on anything

i don't think you can move while drinking either but idr exactly didn't bother using it because, well, yeah

[plush tendon]

the Silken Chain Weaver seems decent for M+/trash

it also has full Str on it

the other one is half prim stat

[violet ginkgo]

If you guys happen enchant your ring, prefer radiant haste or cursed haste?

[light delta]

I preferred gold so not cursed~

[plush tendon]

Im a believer in more stats>best stats

[light delta]

Yeah it does actually, thanks lol

[plush tendon]

so a normal haste enchant seems better to me

[violet ginkgo]

Radiant level 3 : +315 Haste
Cursed level 3: +390 Haste -115 Vers
So not about more stat, more like the other got more stat but there is penalty. Or you mean normal as in the Radiant one without penalty?

[plush tendon]

its +75 haste for -115 vers. Net total stat is -40

ima keep the 115 vers

[sweet crest]

Hey im on TarrenMill EU and need a shield crafting, any recommendations?

[violet ginkgo]

ah shoot the drop is from boss priory oh well.

[echo egret]

Fungal Folly 8 solo with brann Healing. Any tip for last boss ?

[solid sun]

Which boss is that

Big bug?

[echo egret]

Spinshroom

[solid sun]

I feel like I just ran from the spin

He may have taken damage from the spore explosions? I can’t 100% confirm that part though

[meager abyss]

so for catalyst, we want to only do it when we can achieve the highest ilvl piece to xfer possible?

[violet ginkgo]

more like to complete your tier set, so don't catalyst too soon

just farm normally and see what you miss.

[raw parcel]

Is 25k nothing? There's a resto shaman totem that does the same, but for 20k, and the standard resto build recommends it.

[proper roost]

yeah because it's raidwide and not for you

it's used for the dps/healers who don't have a fuckton of armor and spam 1m absorbs on themselves every other gcd

perhaps there are extenuating circumstances that would make this worse for a tank!

[waxen frigate]

Ain’t no way you’re comparing it to EWT lmfao

[proper roost]

Smh my head

guy seriously thinks EWT is used as a tank external

[waxen frigate]

EWT on sire went crazy

[raw parcel]

I don't think that, just saying 25k is not a trivial amount.

[waxen frigate]

It is

Also depends on context

[proper roost]

it literally is

lmfao

💀

[waxen frigate]

If you’re taking a shitload of 30k hits then yeah it would be bis

But that’s not the case

[dark plover]

What about this one lads

seems annoying

[waxen frigate]

That sounds toxic in the most literal way possible

Also 1344 secondary is fuck all

[raw parcel]

I guess it depends on how hard we're getting hit. >_> Though honestly all these delve trinkets I'm getting seem to kinda suck.

[dark plover]

its like same value as skarmorak but spread out evenly on all secondaries, and risk of dying and shitty CD timer

lol that trinket sucks ass

I guess it lasts for 30secs though

compared to 15

[proper roost]

you have like, idk, what, like almost 10m hp in like 610

you think you're getting hit for like 100ks?

[raw parcel]

Also, does it take damage before or after other factors? There's a big difference between 25k off the final damage calculation and the initial incoming damage.

[proper roost]

no one knows because it would be dogshit either way

and it's a delve only trinket so it was hard to get to test (if anyone even wanted to)

[raw parcel]

_> Dammit, waste of a fucking key.

[solid sun]

Well not really

That key lead to this lovely conversation

There’s value in learning things, friend

[plush tendon]

if they up the secondary number and make it a 3 min CD

would line up with human racial

[raw parcel]

On a related topic, my Brann is no longer getting xp.

He got to 38 and just kinda... stopped. This intended?

[solid sun]

I believe I read a wowhead headline that claimed Brann only gets xp in bountiful delves at some point?

[raw parcel]

Yeah, I'm doing those. :x

[solid sun]

I guess your brann is too strong

[raw parcel]

No longer getting xp or Delver's Journey. Wondering if they hotfixed it to stop people at a certain point so we can't just use alts to max him the first week.

[tribal wharf]

so, if i do more mythic zeros, all the bosses spells are gunna basically 1 shot if i didnt do it right ya?

[proper roost]

?

[tribal wharf]

cuz i guess they are supposed to be equal to a 10 now

[proper roost]

delve 8 solos hit harder than m0s

unless you double/triple pull stuff

[tribal wharf]

i didnt play in season 4, so that part of its new, i went to run ara kara and i got clapped in 2.5 gcds

[raw parcel]

That might be a gear issue, friend, m0s hit hard, but not that hard.

[proper roost]

i haven't done ara-kara yet but trash should definitely not kill you in 2.5 gcds

unless you did the same pull you did for heroic and used 0 cds

yogi I feel like you know better than to not charge fresh pulls and not shield wall right away just in case

when it's like really newish content

[tribal wharf]

didnt move out of the web spirals, 2 of them landed on me, took a bunch of dmg , then it says 2.3m and im dead

[proper roost]

ok well

yeah