protection

[chilly brook]

No

Because it’s capped 3 ilvl lower

Ilvl is massive on shields

And weapons (minus cantrips)

[solemn zinc]

Whjat should I be cerafting then?

crafting

[chilly brook]

Idk

Whatever slot is most beneficial

[solemn zinc]

Ah ok

[chilly brook]

Or like whatever your embellishment is going to be

[solemn zinc]

so its no like bis craft slot that I should use sparks on

[chilly brook]

I’m sure there’s a BiS embellishment

[proud dock]

im confused if were posed to upgrade gear this week or not upgrade until next week.

[round pendant]

shield isn't a bad craft

[chilly brook]

#protection message

Pins are great 🙂

There truly is no rush on utilizing your spark(s)

[broken rose]

I am really enjoying protection warrior in "The War Within" expansion.

[round pendant]

yeah but also a guaranteed shield upgrade is still good

there's plenty of sparks to come

[chilly brook]

Yes but also ultimately a throwaway craft

[round pendant]

That's only if you get the 3ilvl higher shield

I never even got a shield drop last season

[jagged gust]

Is it though? If we save for long enough those sparks are going to be useless

[round pendant]

from vault or otherwise

And for the X amount of time until then, you have a good shield

but yeah I'm not a minmaxer in that regard

[chilly brook]

I wouldn’t consider a shield craft unless just really unlucky

Especially with myth track shield off first boss

Very puggable

Especially this season

[round pendant]

That's a good point

I didn't know the first boss dropped a shield

[chilly brook]

We get ICC buff this season

So raid only gets easier as time goes on

[round pendant]

Still, you get unlucky for 2 weeks and a shield craft still wouldn't be a bad idea ;^)

[chilly brook]

Your call at the end of the day

Several different ways to build yourself up, most of them end up at the same spot

[jagged gust]

Even mythic? Man they're really pushing for more accessibility this xpac

[chilly brook]

IMO I’d just do raid before doing anything crafting wise

[round pendant]

I can't do week 1 aotc

:(

[chilly brook]

Pretty sure it’s all difficulties

[round pendant]

so sad so sad

[chilly brook]

Don’t remember when it starts though

[solid sun]

Went 6/8 normal last night and thought it was mostly a fun raid. I wasn’t a huge fan of feeding the boss in the first fight but otherwise enjoyed what we experienced

[jagged gust]

Whats S1 pug scene look like? I feel like pugging aotc shouldn't be impossible, but I'm basing that off later season experiences

[solid sun]

The nexus princess was really neat

[chilly brook]

Starts at 3% damage and healing buff and caps at 18% sometime down the road

[solid sun]

I feel like it’s hard to gauge the pug scene atm

The pugs we invited were all helpful and chill

[cold pilot]

Can I sacrifice one of my Duskthread Linings to make the Binding of Binding ring?

I feel like that embellishment isnt fantastic

and I already have one on my shield

[shrewd ore]

haste vers 💀

[cold pilot]

Well actually it looks like I put the crit one on 😄

[round pendant]

haste vers 💀

(it's fine)

[chilly brook]

Haste vers 💀

[cold pilot]

haha, i am going to recraft. it was the stats I was missing the most of when I made it with my shit heroic gear haha

[chilly brook]

Bro thinks he’s a WW with those stats

[cold pilot]

I know I know.. I want Vers Mas 🙃

I'll put crit on the fucking shield lol, is binding of binding viable?

[solemn zinc]

Dont we want haste over mastery?

[shrewd ore]

crit is the correct one no?

[cold pilot]

yes lol

[shrewd ore]

there is no haste afaik

[cold pilot]

its Haste Crit

[solemn zinc]

Haste > vers > Crit > mastery?

[cold pilot]

I think it's Haste > Crit > Vers

[shrewd ore]

haste >= crit > mast =vers

for dps

[solemn zinc]

We're talking protection?

[shrewd ore]

yes

[solemn zinc]

So Crit and vers is almost the same then

[shrewd ore]

no crit is way better for dps

[cold pilot]

💦

ok fuck it, im making the binding

[south zealot]

haste crit

[tribal wharf]

not a big fan of the deathbringer talents for bdk

i think

ah yes, i see now why i dont like the hero tree

oh god, its even worse than i thought

[analog sparrow]

Grats man

Solo?

[round pendant]

idk how people still don't know the stat prio

ilvl >>> haste > crit >= vers > mastery ||sim yourself||

[molten gorge]

Fumble mains

[round pendant]

idk deathbringer slaps

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/maka-albarn-soul-eater-anime-gif-23516810

[tribal wharf]

i like vampiric strike way better i think

not tried much DB

[plush tendon]

San Layn is cringe AF

[proper roost]

how about you san layn deez nuts

(dn)

[vocal flame]

yeah that was silly

[plush tendon]

Queen Ans was a really fun

heroic is also pretty easy

out of the first 4, the 2nd was prob the hardest

[zenith monolith]

Is it Duskthread or Dawn embelish?

[lofty warren]

do you need to escort in order to get loot from world boss?

[rain light]

no

[vocal flame]

I thought the same thing cause I didn't even get gold lol

[proper roost]

Anyway

Who thought siege of boralus was a good dungeon

I'm gonna beat up blizzard

[jagged pier]

no one

[dusky canopy]

This seems almost required for a M+ tank

[proper roost]

the wave boss is DOG shit

[dusky canopy]

Wonder what the icd is

[proper roost]

My short little ass dwaf legs

r too short for the fountain

water

😡

[dusky canopy]

I must say this raid is easily 10/10 for me

It’s so badass

[proper roost]

well that's good cuz siege of boralus

might singlehandedly make me hate this season

[plush tendon]

I aint feeling the old dungeons they added

except maybe Grim Batol

Ill give that one a chance... but the others, naw Im good

[dusky canopy]

I haven’t run an old dungeon yet myself

[proper roost]

grim batol fucks

i haven't done any of the new ones in mythic yet 🤪

[dusky canopy]

Probably will do some tonight after I spend my T8 delve keys

[proper roost]

last boss of grim batol is kinda like

last boss of atal dazar

except

not dogshit

rng

[plush tendon]

Grim Batol is just cool to me

[proper roost]

🥺 hey i'm some tonight

[dusky canopy]

Didn’t get arakara sak last night but watched a guildy loot it so that was cool

[plush tendon]

fits the expansion aesthetic

the others feel so out of place

[dusky canopy]

Excited for M+ season to start

[ancient reef]

whats best method to grind up delves without using keys

can i just run them over n over to level

[plush tendon]

yea

you just run non-bountiful delves

[proper roost]

Wdym grind up delves

[plush tendon]

and get to 8

then send the bountiful

[ancient reef]

ok so just look at tooltip and dont run bountiful

[proper roost]

You never have to use a key on delves, you optionally can use them only on bountifuls

[plush tendon]

yea, but if you run and complete a bontiful delve, you cant do it again

so you want to do non-bontiful till 8

then do the 4 bontifuls and use keys

[dusky canopy]

Go and run the underwater one in the spider zone it takes like 3-5 minutes

[ancient reef]

i gotta say the jump from heroic to m) was a surpise

[proper roost]

inb4 he loots the 0.12% chance to get a map on a lower tier delve

[dusky canopy]

My guildies and I went from t4-7 in less than 30 minutes

[proper roost]

actually so fucked up

[ancient reef]

or maybe i got so lazy doing the heroics

i literally used zero defenses in those heroics

and not i took some damage

finished 4 or so on my baer as well who literally hit 80 yesterday

and did them in green ah gear

at 558

so it aint that hard

[dusky canopy]

They’re not impossible but you have to think a little

[ancient reef]

i think it was more the healers

just like i really need a heal sometimes

and they wasnt used to it

[proper roost]

but you didn't press a single defensive?

🤔

[ancient reef]

i did

i kept up block and everything

[proper roost]

i literally used zero defenses in those heroics

[ancient reef]

i used them in the m)

[proper roost]

🤨

[ancient reef]

m0

the thing that was a little shocking was how fast my IP got used up

just had to pool more rage and stopped caring if i was overcapped

[proper roost]

@dusky canopy M0s. tn. Thanks

pretty sure you're on my bnet

[ancient reef]

and i hate the new siege

or the changes to it

[ebon geyser]

remind me again i wanna do raid and all i can before getting the weekly caches or no

[mellow quartz]

The fact they added 2 mobs right at the start of the 3rd boss is aids in Siege

[vocal flame]

the whole spell int thing they changed in TWW really sucks too, doesnt stop them from casting it just slows it down

in dungs

[proper roost]

Doesn't matter, the weekly chest loot is always just veteran gear

Says so specifically in the tooltips

[ancient reef]

and necrotic wake is different

whole route after first boss

[dusky canopy]

Can add me later idr

I have Nim

So we’ll be able to group

[mellow quartz]

#protection message

[dusky canopy]

I game at 8cst daily typically

[mellow quartz]

Just changed that

[proper roost]

this week is so boring

give keys already

🙏

[dusky canopy]

Real

[ancient reef]

yeah it was no big deal

except when we misseda fear

and oh big pull

[proper roost]

with my loot rng i would be at like 620 rn stg

got like 9 pieces out of the 4 delves and 3 m0s last night

[dusky canopy]

Hollyy

I thought I was lucky to get weapon from T8 delve

[proper roost]

and still no map!!!!

[ancient reef]

you run the delves in groups or solo as prot

[proper roost]

i'd be happy to get a weapon, just sitting at stupid 593 weap

[dusky canopy]

Go with a group

Treat it like a dungeon

Very easy that way

[ancient reef]

i thougth they worked like visions sorta

[dusky canopy]

We had a 5 man last night and bran was with us still

[mellow quartz]

Bran is with you from the group leader

[proper roost]

i heard it scales kinda wonky with 5 people tbh, seems like it'd be faster with just 2

nim and i did three of them with him tanking and i playing ele yesterday and it was fairly fast

[mellow quartz]

I did it all solo at abt 584, was fine

[proper roost]

it's just significantly faster to duo but maybe depends on your brann level too

[dusky canopy]

Add pad gang

Kanga

[edgy bone]

Which tier are we not using?

[ancient reef]

i got a weapon from lfr, should i craft a shield

[ornate thicket]

I love both bear and prot. I think pwar is a little sturdier but bear has motw so if you play with a group that doesn't have a druid its a good choice.

[proper roost]

lets goo

i don't have the time or desire to raid anymore

[misty shuttle]

How do u guys survive stiging Swarm on last boss in dreadpit Delve 8 (currently 586 ilvl prot War)

[proper roost]

thought very heavily on it this season but just gonna see how keyge go

[dusky canopy]

Man I love this raid

It is so cool

[swift orbit]

Am I griefing if I craft both shield and 1h this week?

[dusky canopy]

Not really

Just could get screwed by balancing if you use embellishments that get nerfed

Long term it won’t matter you’ll have more sparks than you’ll want to use

Short term gamble to craft before heroic week tuning

Basically

[swift orbit]

I can see guides mentioning the shield, however not a weapon.. Is that just because you can't add the suggested embellishments to the weapon

[rigid hull]

so can i craft boys?xd

[dusky canopy]

My advice is to hold until heroic week tuning is done

[swift orbit]

Yeh.. Can't you recraft with a different embellishment?

[dusky canopy]

You can recraft without losing spark yes

[rigid hull]

so its fine?

[dusky canopy]

You just lock yourself into the gear slot that you use the spark on

[rigid hull]

just some gold loss

if im taking a gamble

which slot am i going for

[dusky canopy]

I would craft whatever nome suggests on the wowhead guide

Typically you want crafts on low stat budget items

If you’re not ever going to see myth track items because of whatever level you play at then craft shield/weapon (imo)

Because you can craft myth track with the right crests

[rain light]

t10 delves are insane

[misty shuttle]

How do u guys survive stiging Swarm on last boss in dreadpit Delve 8 (currently 586 ilvl prot War)

[vocal flame]

what are you opening up your chests in for the delves prot and hoping for shield?

[rain light]

didnt do that one t8, we just tried it t10 and died to zekvir

[violet ginkgo]

I currently still open for arms if I get 2h weapon it's nice because once you upgrade it, the upgrade for 1h and shield is discounted and no longer use crest.

[misty shuttle]

U skipping it on t8 or?

[rain light]

you can do tiers on other delves

doesnt have to be all the tiers on each one

we did waterworks up to 8, then did the 4 bountiful ones at 8

[vocal flame]

ok that makes sense, I have a ton of keys so maybe ill split it up

[vast dragon]

do we save keys for higher delve?

[steel matrix]

We should do a 2/3/9 raid group where its all protection warriors besides 3 healer priests

[steel matrix]

Also, higher delves reward higher ilvl right? So id assume so

for coffers

[tropic linden]

Keys are for 8 and up, the loot is the same

[vocal flame]

i believe level 8 is the only gear level everything after that is cosmetics

[vast dragon]

so dont do bountifuls until you unlock 8

[vocal flame]

Pretty much

[vast dragon]

how good is swarmlords?

[solid sun]

I got a SAC on my first m0 of that spider dungeon

Am I cracked now?

[violet ginkgo]

I see so we better do 8 t8 delves per week for good loot in vault

[misty shuttle]

The one Iam
Talking about is a bountiful

[ornate thicket]

This week yes. After this week likely just want to do keys and heroic/myth raid

[misty shuttle]

How do u guys survive stiging Swarm on last boss in dreadpit Delve 8 (currently 586 ilvl prot War)

[violet ginkgo]

I am not sure next week I can already do the heroic XD, also my guild is not doing mythic, less stress.

[solid sun]

Lemme just hit up mythic raid nbd lol

[proper roost]

Won't be soon enough that delves are irrelevant

dog content

[plush tendon]

eh, theyll be relevent

for alts and stuff

easy way to fill up the vault

if you dont want to run 4 M+

[proper roost]

alts

[plush tendon]

even mains

if you just need the 3 vaults for a socket

[proper roost]

wow players the only cooked ppl who are like "yeah it's normal to play this game 20 hours a week"

"bit casual tbh"

[plush tendon]

I raid 9 hours a week...

but delves are great for people who dont wanna M+ but still wanna get some pretty solid gear

which is what I think the point of them is

[proper roost]

tbh i wonder how many casual players are actually doing it

like actually casual players

and not people who are just going to be doing high keys/prepping for mythic raid next week

I think the difficulty for actual casuals is way too high

actually time to read /r/wow's thoughts on tier 8 delves

[ornate thicket]

Duoing them seemed pretty easy

[silk cave]

What is the best method to do the delves? 1 tank 1 healer 2 dps?

[topaz sedge]

No one takes battle scarred veteran but it seems good i assume there is a reason

[proper roost]

bsv has always been bad

[dusky canopy]

BRO DELVE HATING

Smh my head

[proper roost]

it's uncontrollable, and controlling your defensives is good 👍

[plush tendon]

Ill ask my roommate tonight

hes a super casual player

see how he likes it

[ornate thicket]

Lmao tru. Just saying the gear is not optimal beyond this week if you are able to do reasonable keys and esp if you myth raiding.

[proper roost]

it seems like /r/wow is still busy doing tier 3 delves so uh

yeah 💀

[plush tendon]

well, looks like delves are good content for them then XD

they can progress through delves all season

[proper roost]

yeah the delves r not for me

i just find them incredibly tedious

i just want to keyge already..

[ornate thicket]

I would be so depressed if i was stuck on delve 3 and 4s

[plush tendon]

we all progress at our own rate

its ok to be stuck

[ornate thicket]

Im not saying that. Speaking for myself here lol

[plush tendon]

granted... if I couldnt do a tier 3 delve... I prob would be kicked from my guild

but theres different expectations

[ornate thicket]

I think itll be a good way to casually gear some alts though which is cool

[plush tendon]

yea

[outer moth]

Me and my friend just did 1 tank 1 dps

[plush tendon]

can go to sleep on a Saturday night but dont wanna commit to doing a key

[outer moth]

Was fairly easy, no deaths

[plush tendon]

hop in, slam a delve

[limpid ruin]

No way, I’d fight for you

[plush tendon]

[limpid ruin]

I need someone to make me look good

[plush tendon]

[warm plinth]

Tier 8 solo delve was pretty chill except web bolts

[acoustic slate]

when into the frey is better then heavy repercussions?

[wooden widget]

When shield block uptime good

[acoustic slate]

at what haste

[warm plinth]

35% unbuffed haste for regular use.

[proper roost]

yo the spider fuckers

do crazy dmg in delves

[warm plinth]

The empowered web bolts do like 3.1 million

On tier 8

[proper roost]

i liked spiders before. they were bros. ate mosquitoes and shit

Now i hate spiders

evil motherfuckers. waste my time. not give me delve map

😡

[dusky canopy]

You see that Backend on the queen

Hollyy

[warm plinth]

I'm like 56i or something

568

But I didn't do bountiful solo. Was just regular t8

Idk if that affects difficulty

Or maybe it was idfk

[proper roost]

Sheesh

Nah I don't think whether it's bountiful or not affects difficulty

[dawn geode]

2 delves in a row

awesome

[stable wind]

Also got one. Fuck

[sick sentinel]

What are u guys finding the hardes mythinc fights so far

And why is it the city of echos final boss

[vocal flame]

the stonevault pair boss is a bitch

you can deflect the dot tho which is nice

[solid sun]

Is this the one where she does a black hole that you counter by stepping in the puddle and getting rooted

[mellow quartz]

Easy fight tbh

[solid sun]

If yes it got a lot easier after I told my team you can unroot yourself by CCing the little blood ad duders

[mellow quartz]

Just move around in a circle and spell reflect the dot or the root

[neon elk]

The fight is easy, what is hard is people not having any clue there

[coarse lynx]

Ty

[neon elk]

Give it 2 or 3 days and it will be fine

[mellow quartz]

Had bigger issues with people doing first boss in Ara Kara lol

Had to solo finish it

[tribal wharf]

pog

2 items haha

[proper roost]

which dungeon is ara kara again

I get the two spider dungeons confused constantly rn

[midnight siren]

the one with the nice trinket

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[dusky canopy]

It’s the one called ara-Kara

In the spider zone

[proper roost]

Thanks

[dusky canopy]

Right next to the summon stone for that dungeon

[proper roost]

I hope you sleep with your back against the wall tonight

Because I will be coming for you.

[dusky canopy]

Glad I could help

[ornate thicket]

Ara kara has the stairs dropping down into webs first area. 3 mini boss spiders and giant spider first boss

City of threads is the dumb one with all the shit RP finding spy's

[tribal wharf]

that sword i got has avoidance

[proper roost]

Ahh

Ara kara is the bullshit caster trash with the 3 uh

like fear spider dudes that you have to kill before first boss

i have no idea what the mechanics of that place is haven't done it on mythic yet

first boss on heroic always died before it did any mechanics

[solid sun]

It’s really not bad imo

I mostly enjoy it but I have no idea how m+ is gonna feel

My caster friends didn’t appreciate the second boss very much but idk if that’s because they’re cry babies or if it legit sucks for them

[neat parrot]

should we craft smth or not ? with spark

[jagged pier]

[neat parrot]

ye the pin is from 8/29

[violet ginkgo]

Still effective though

because tuning haven't going yet

[wooden widget]

Rwf has crafted

Send those sparks

Pin it!

https://tenor.com/view/tuning-guitar-tuning-tune-up-fixing-guitar-foy-vance-gif-14408123

[neat parrot]

who

[wooden widget]

Lots of race to world first folks have crafted. Meaning they believe tuning is over. If you wanna be safe tho wait another week.

[neat parrot]

thane still >= colossus ? raid wise ?

[onyx moon]

Thane Felt alot better in raid than colossus in my opinion

a lot more rage to spend

[tribal wharf]

i should run lfr on my dk and paladin

if i can even

[neat parrot]

which one is better punish or execute build ?

[round pendant]

yeah delves are just

idk

[tribal wharf]

well, its not even the x.1 patch

im sure whatever spice or thing delves are missing will get added

[violet ginkgo]

well if you execute thane will do better since more rage means you can use it more frequent on execute

[mellow quartz]

They are only a thing this week anyway if you do m+

[normal kelp]

can you farm bountiful delves if you run out of keys?

[night heron]

The wowhead guide puts revenge as higher prio than execute even when playing Colossus, is that a mistake? We are supposed to use execute in ST right?

[round pendant]

[violet ginkgo]

I mean you still can get the 2 smaller boxes, but not the big box.

[normal kelp]

but after i complete the bountiful i dont see it there anymore

[warm dirge]

does anyone else agree with the wowhead guide saying macroing ignore pain to shield slam is a good idea?

[grim pilot]

More like other way around

Shield slam to ignore pain

[urban bane]

It doesn't want you to make shield slam also cast ignore pain

Shield Slam must remain a separate bind

yeah what myrtu said

[grim pilot]

Myrtuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[urban bane]

sowwy

[warm dirge]

got it

[proper roost]

that's not what it says so yeah

[fallow nova]

It also says to apply deep wounds in AoE or fish for SS resets

Execute takes prio at 4 or less targets, especially if deep wounds is active

[violet ginkgo]

Well he said ST so deep wound is always active from our autoattack

[night heron]

Yeah but I just assumed we're always fishing for SS resets anyway
Also weird phrasing it that way because execute can reset SS too

[tribal wharf]

is it better than torghast? who knows..

war fronts

islands

[violet ginkgo]

Can reset SS yes but the rage cost is x2 revenge, so use it carefully if not on sudden death proc

[graceful kite]

I like delves

they're short and I got loot ( but not on warrior)

[lofty warren]

i did 6 bountiful delves and 4 trinkets what the fuck

[vocal flame]

damn grats!!! I didnt get anything lol

[rain light]

not sure how I have 3 of these

[dusky canopy]

[kind glen]

random drop from bountiful chests

[tribal wharf]

is kej or cryslals more valuable on the whole

cuz i know u can exchange 2k kej for 1k crystal or 200 for 100 and vice a versa

[knotty pewter]

Are t8s pretty easy as prot at 578 ilvl or should I grab some more gear?

[violet ginkgo]

well if your healer are quite good then should be OK

[knotty pewter]

Oh I've just been doing solo

T7 seemed fine

[warm plinth]

I did t8 at 568, but only done the webbed victim one so far

Silk something

[mellow quartz]

Only semi challenging end boss was the waterworks at low ilvl

[meager abyss]

how the fuck do you get spark shards?

[mellow quartz]

Died once cause I didn’t pay attention and ran out of the candle/circle thing without refreshing it lol

[proper roost]

Pretty much any content that rewards you with gear

[dawn geode]

that end boss in waterworks does so much aoe dmg

[proper roost]

weekly chests, delve chests (doesn't have to be the locked ones), m0s, heroics even, lfr

like the only thing you can't get a spark out of is like.. just... regular WQs I guess?

[meager abyss]

you can get two per week @proper roost

[proper roost]

Are you asking a question or... telling me for some reason

Because you can't, you get half a spark per week. You can just catch up and get however many sparks you are behind to catch up on

[rose flicker]

how are we feeling with m0 out?

[wispy tinsel]

like there is finally something to do

[tribal wharf]

i havent touched those at all personally

cant be that hard

for sure

[molten gorge]

Just tried to do Siege of Boralus with a horde (we're ally)

seems to not work?

on m0 obv

[proper roost]

It works fine

Did it yesterday (me alliance, 4 horde)

The entrances are different. The horde entrance is southeastish of boralus on a little dock

[molten gorge]

Ah

so the guy just at wrong entrance

[violet ginkgo]

guys how do we see how much damage we reflected in the log? I mean on which part I should see?

[vocal flame]

my log wasnt working at all did you have to update it? usually it starts logging automatically when entering a dung but it didnt do that yesterday

[tribal wharf]

i cant even qeue for heroics on dk..... yet.....

terrorism war crimes soon

[round pendant]

so what's the consensus

is GB overtuned

[mellow quartz]

Select enemy and then look for damage taken. It will show the damage per ability so you would figure out which abilities you reflected and see how much damage they did.
In details you can see it more easily as its own line.

[mellow quartz]

Which part you find hard?

[south zealot]

what’s that

[tribal wharf]

the second boss does alot of melee dmg during swords but its truly skill issue

some shit about during swords phase he stacks a buff that goes to like 5, and its at 5 that he hits for 9m

so its you use wall or have a cd put on you to live it

3rd boss is rough but its a skill issue, ranged dps needs to get on the adds and someone needs to slow said adds or group = kaboom

[mellow quartz]

Grim Batol

[tribal wharf]

they claim its changed but it looks basically the same last as i went

spells that kill you are 60 fps and prettier, thats about it

[mellow quartz]

Nothing changed from beta

All the bosses are easy as a tank once you know what’s going on.

If you try and tank the 1000% damage increase mace you will have a bad time

[tribal wharf]

yup, especially as prot warrior

logic = block attack or you die > group dies > failure > dissapointment

[south zealot]

i wouldnt say its overtuned

you just have to understand the enemies

[mellow quartz]

GB for the tank is all about the trash. Once you know which mobs are destroying you it’s easier.

[south zealot]

and know which are banned to pull

any more than 2 warlocks, your group is fucked

[tribal wharf]

BRING SOOTHE

gb boss 3 trash is soothable

[mellow quartz]

Just bring decurses. Pulled 4-5 at a time in 12’s on beta

[quick spruce]

What are you guys crafting?

[tribal wharf]

the "elite" tall standing drakanids will enrage and hurt like hell

[mellow quartz]

The big ogres ramping enrage just wait a few stacks and stormbolt it. The stun duration resets the enrage stacks

[shell atlas]

Any idea why the mismatch? T7 delve.

[tribal wharf]

this is not surpising to me as life long warcraft player

even since wc1 orges use blood lust type magics

[mighty valley]

spell descriptions are usually base damage before difficulty modifiers

[tribal wharf]

i still remember first time figuring out how powerful bloodlust is in wc2, wc3 ladder

[molten gorge]

thought GB was fine

the newer dungeons seem more harshly tuned than any of the old ones imo

[slim current]

well shit man this is starting toget intimidating. where do i learn these dungeons as a new tank?

[molten gorge]

(that being said, it's all fine)

[mighty valley]

yeah, went into gb blind with a pretty low ilvl group, some Learning Moments but everything's manageable

[mellow quartz]

Reflect/kick/stun?

[vocal flame]

looks like a bug i didnt have that issue

[mellow quartz]

What’s the bug? Spells do way more damage than melee hits due to block

Looks normal

It’s scaled to a tier 7 like m+ scaling

[onyx moon]

which slots are the best for us to fill with crafted gear?

[mellow quartz]

Probably a shield

Unless you can get myth track

[tribal wharf]

ya, if u show me a picture of an ogre with a mace, and you ask me what he does, i say he enrages

[south zealot]

oh is it a curse

[tribal wharf]

and 99% of time im right on that

[vocal flame]

its not scaled that much i got hit by that and didnt die lol

[south zealot]

my group had caut as our only decurse lol

that tracks

[shell atlas]

Delves in generally just feel whonky. Even some difficulties below my ilvl just seem a strungle if the delve has a bunch of casters in it. 15min solo dungeon advert seems grossly oversold. :/

[onyx moon]

why a shield if you dont mind me asking?

[mellow quartz]

You have like 6m hp and the hit show 2.5m so yeah

[cerulean tusk]

Block is our most important stat

[mellow quartz]

Single biggest thing to help you defensively

[vocal flame]

ah yeah thats a good point, i see that he didnt die

[onyx moon]

right bit dont crafted item generally have lower ilvl?

[proper roost]

spell tooltips are always like this

[cerulean tusk]

You will swap it out with mythic track down the line

[mellow quartz]

Level 8 delves say ‘minimum ilvl recommended 600’ which ilvl were you at?

[proper roost]

look at the tooltips on M+ spells and you'll be like

fug

[south zealot]

then a max level piece yeah

but youre not getting a max ilvl shield immediately 99.9% of the time

[cerulean tusk]

578, and 8 was ez pz

[mellow quartz]

Same for me

But he complained it wasn’t a ‘solo experience’

[cerulean tusk]

I went in as Fury tho, not prot

[shell atlas]

Mate I struggled on a T4 delve (545) while at ~573ilvl. The specific delve is the one with the light movement/charge mechanic in Hallowfall.

[proper roost]

Hey man, I'm reporting you to blizzard for abuse. Minimum is 600, got it bud? don't let me see your face around here again

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-war-avengers-death-cjb1967-gif-18666703

[shell atlas]

Solod some T8s yeserday on my other warr at like ~575 without much issues, and others were a huge struggle.

[mellow quartz]

More of a skill issue then 🤷‍♂️

Some things hurt more than others. Adapt and overcome.

[shell atlas]

Maybe. Still new to the game, but could handle the lower key mythics with friends at the very end of DF when i started, so didn't expect solo content to put me in the dirt constantly.

[patent sedge]

do u send demolish on cd?

[mighty valley]

yep, unless locking yourself in place would get you killed

it should basically always get stacked to 10 by doing normal rotation

[patent sedge]

ok and if u open on raid boss? do i use it insta or get few stacks for the % increase

[proper roost]

the high damage mobs/spells in delves are very opaque, it's not really your fault - just have to go pull by pull and see what each does tho

like, it's not the melee from anything that'll kill you

it's always the spells

[mighty valley]

the wowhead guide recommends waiting for 3 or more stacks, seems fine

[proper roost]

and a lot of mobs do instant unkickable/unavoidable ones

[shell atlas]

and instant oneshot abilities on bosses that aren't always intuitive 😄

[onyx moon]

I didnt know what you ment by myth track for a sec but you are talking about ilvl range for gear such as veteran and champion. so craft a shield until then and then swap it out got it

[proper roost]

well, i don't know if i've run into any delve bosses so far where their oneshot mechanics were that unclear, but yeah

[mighty valley]

crafted shield is gonna be a competitive ilvl unless you're doing mythic raiding

[proper roost]

mostly just the trash i think

[mellow quartz]

Yes upgrade track ‘myth’ like ‘veteran’

[dusky summit]

crafting neck is generally safe since we don't really have good necks from raid/m+ right?

[mellow quartz]

If you don’t know what myth track is you probably don’t mythic raid so just craft a shield lol

[mellow quartz]

Anything but tier slots is fine

[primal dawn]

Okay, okay… but I need someone else to do it first…

[proper roost]

🤨

[magic meadow]

I have a question on wowhead it says to Macro Shield slam and ignore pain does this make a difference vs separating them?

[proper roost]

read the full description of what the macro is for

Right below where it says the macro itself

[tribal wharf]

thats my ppal

i pull something i would normally pull on dk or pwar and he turns to dust

[cerulean tusk]

Had ppal tanking all my m0 world tour, was no issues

[proper roost]

Yeah ppal is fine

at least, m0 doesn't hurt bad at all so literally doesnt matter

[magic meadow]

So I add it where my ignore pain normally goes

[warm plinth]

Yes. You still have a shield slam button, and then that macro replaces your IP button

@magic meadow

[tribal wharf]

WTF

this is what i get on dk

[proper roost]

Grats yogi

[tribal wharf]

i really want that on warr

forbidden leech candle ....

well, its for a bdk, i dunno if bdk uses cirt

[proper roost]

It's their best stat

sorry, it's like their second worst stat

i was just typying

😔

[mellow quartz]

Bdk just want stats. It’s not like pwar and our love of haste

[south zealot]

bdk stats dont matter

besides not wanting very much haste

[plush tendon]

haste 5%>Crit=vers=mastery>haste

[proper roost]

Really fucked up what they did to bdk

they fear even a fraction of the bdk players...

[waxen frigate]

Isn’t the Haste 5% build dependent too

Granted iirc one of the hero talents sucks ass so

[plush tendon]

well if you are playing San Layn

then haste over everything

[waxen frigate]

Yeah it’s cooked

[plush tendon]

but like.... why are you playing San Layn

its worse in everyway

[proper roost]

some people like doin level 4 delves

[south zealot]

if youre playing san layn you shouldnt care about stats bc you dont care about winning

[proper roost]

hey choco are u going to try to get title this season

[south zealot]

probably not these dungeons fucking blow

[proper roost]

so true who made them bring siege of boralus

[plush tendon]

Siege, NW, and Mists

all terrible

[south zealot]

siege and nw are the only ones i dont actively dread soing

doing

[waxen frigate]

Yeah

[waxen frigate]

I liked mists in sl but

Very different player now than I was then

[south zealot]

every tww dungeon is complete shit

[proper roost]

wow...

[waxen frigate]

Keep yourself safe

[south zealot]

besides the rookery where only the first boss is shit

[proper roost]

choco speedran getting jaded with the game

let's go

[waxen frigate]

Cinderbrew and Priory are great if they tone down the aoes a bit

Rookery is fine

Dawnbreaker and Candle are kinda ass but they’re thematically cool at least

City of threads is dogshit and belongs in the dumpster

Arakara is fine

[plush tendon]

S4 old dungeons shouldve been Grim Batl, Ankehet Old Kingdom, Shrine of Storms

[waxen frigate]

I don’t even remember the last one but it’s probably ok

[plush tendon]

and maybe Stonecore/Azul Nerub

[proper roost]

i literally cannot think of a single redeeming quality about any wotlk dungeon

[plush tendon]

they were thematic

[south zealot]

priory is completely unplayable as a melee

[waxen frigate]

Yes the consecrate is a problem for sure

But if that gets toned down it’s a banger

[plush tendon]

I like that a lot of the new dungeons are 3 bosses

[waxen frigate]

And then there’s threads…

Literally court of stars but longer and worse

[lusty grotto]

threads is indeed garbage

[waxen frigate]

I loathe that dungeon

[lusty grotto]

the only redeeming quality of that dungeon is first boss just janking whoever is standing in africa all the time

[waxen frigate]

True

[proper roost]

first boss yank is extremely funny

i just want to do keys with my good friend nimchip

[mighty valley]

they’d have to do so much work to bring any wotlk dungeons into m+, so many absolute nothing bosses

[fathom magnet]

are we going for shield and bracers with our sparks or rather weapon and shield?

[molten gorge]

the changes for Grim Batol are kinda cool imo

mechanics wise I mean

could do something similar, just make them different

[mellow quartz]

There is a really good WA for the dragon flying part that will show you how many hits of button 1 and 2 is needed to each pack

[dawn geode]

delver's bounty chests are only visible to you right?

[lusty grotto]

only visible to the player that hasnt done it

[dawn geode]

like if i pop one i'm the only one that'll get the hidden chest?

[lusty grotto]

oh you mean the 5 hidden chests

no

they are visible to everyone

[dawn geode]

sry if i'm confusing, i mean the map drop

[charred oar]

Hey guys ! I have a quick question on gearing. I don't have a ton of time to play so I want to make sure I'm doing things optimally in terms of gearing and which raid/m+/delve to run. I was looking into askmrrobot but I wanted your alls opinion on how to figure this stuff out?

[lusty grotto]

oh i have no idea

[lusty grotto]

raidbots.com

not ask mr robot

[charred oar]

I do mostly dungeons so do I do the dungeon slice for raid bots?

[lusty grotto]

run droptimizer

5 target patchwerk

1 min or 1.5 mins

not dungeon slice

[charred oar]

Okay

I'll look into this. Thank you very much

I have one friend I play with he says just to copy murloc.io

But it doesn't really lead me in any direction just shows bis

[dusky canopy]

That friend didn’t give good advice

[tender cove]

I feel so envious of everyone. Havent had a single hour to play for a week now 😦

[dusky canopy]

Murloc.io is just a popularity tracker

What’s actually best for your individual character requires simming and some critical thinking

[plush path]

hey

why is ss procd if the cd hasnt been reset?

[tender cove]

Devastate/Devastor has like a 20% to reset its cd if i dont remember wrong.

[devout basalt]

The mountain thane ability i think will do that

[mighty valley]

agree, cata dungeons just have more to work with as a starting point

[plush path]

is it a bug?

[tender cove]

no

[slim current]

can u turn delve gear into tier or no

[devout basalt]

No, the reset ur thinking of comes from devastator while mountain thane just removed the cd for two slams

Which also causes the glow

At least that's my understanding of it, someone may know otherwise

[sullen mango]

so longtime tank here rerolling prot war for the first time because my 15 year main of bdk is too button bloat

anything cool to know about prot?

[tender cove]

we suck at taking magic damage.

[sullen mango]

do I at least get to be mobile instead

my friends call bdk the wheelchair tank

[tender cove]

2 charges, vene and a leap is pretty mobile sure.

[remote horizon]

got this from delve, worth turning to tier?

[sullen mango]

how easy is it to double-gear as prot/arms to be able to flex for my guild

[ancient reef]

tier just changes stats

[lusty grotto]

pretty easy

[grim pilot]

U can play prot in arms gear

[tender cove]

Easy if its not world first.

[grim pilot]

Literally same stat prio

And even then stats arent thar important for tanks

In general

It wont block you

[south zealot]

prot warrior has a pretty large amount of buttons

[plush path]

do we use intervene?

[south zealot]

if you can intervene something or have the thane talent that gives a (very) small shirld

shield

yeah

otherwise no

[manic cypress]

best 2 slots for embellishment with spark?

[plush path]

do i press it whenever i can or just if someone is very low?

[proper roost]

it's off gcd

but I mean

[tender cove]

in a raid setting, vene the main tank before a tank buster.

[proper roost]

idk I guess that should kind of answer everything no

it's off gcd

if you don't lose uptime, it's free

if you do, it's not free

[sullen mango]

I wondered because back in DF bdk wanted almost opposite gear/embelish to both dps specs & it was a pain

[tender cove]

Its 3 am, just got off work, need to go up at 9 for a business meeting, yet my brain is like, "you can sneak in just an hour of wow, it wont hurt, you will be tired regardless" xD

[plush tendon]

work is poop

[blazing condor]

cant relate

[proper roost]

Embellishes are really weak in TWW, it won't really matter.

[plush tendon]

dogs dont work

[sullen mango]

I found room for binds for almost everything on prot but bdk especially is just needlessly complex rn

[manic cypress]

best 2 slots for embellishment with spark?

[proper roost]

Also, literally CE players use suboptimal m+ embellishes and shit all the time because they're tryharding for raid or vice versa and do fine

[tender cove]

its my own business so its pretty chill, its just never enough time.

[proper roost]

it does not matter at all

[charred oar]

Raid bots is telling me this, I take it this doesn't matter ?

[sullen mango]

I havent tryharded since like, mop, lmao

[proper roost]

the most important thing by many magnitudes is how good you press the buttons

and that amplifies the more casual you are

[lusty grotto]

you sim dps correct

[sullen mango]

is prot more forgiving to minor errors than blood?

[charred oar]

Ty

[proper roost]

modern blood is pretty forgiving for minor errors

i mean i'd say that was literally the entire point of the DS nerf

was that they could shift more DR into their passive instead of onto DS

[jagged gust]

A minor error for prot generally means letting SB drop or taking back hits, which generally kills you at higher levels

[plush tendon]

I dont know if I agree

if anything, the rework made it harder for bad blood dks

[proper roost]

my context is wod/legion blood dk so

bad players literally just didn't play bdk they were useless

[plush path]

do i prio execute over shield slam when enemy is below 20% in mythic dungeons or only in raids?

[plush tendon]

you can no longer just spam death strike

since you can only take advantage of a damage event once for healing/blood shield

[proper roost]

would that we could return to those times, bring back 3 runes again to confuse the boomers

[dusky canopy]

Correct you sim tank for dps gains just like a dps would

[sullen mango]

blood also still suffers from the issue of having to mitigate damage that already happened & thus being vulnerable to being stat checked

[south zealot]

depends what you consider a minor error for prot

[tender cove]

So what is actually the easiest and most forgiving tank rn?

[sullen mango]

bear

[plush tendon]

I think Prot War is the easiest

[sullen mango]

as always

[tender cove]

as always lol

smurf!

[proper roost]

🔥

[plush tendon]

Prot War is easier then bear

[proper roost]

It makes the boomers' fingies hurt though

too much IP pressing

[plush tendon]

bear actually has to think about if they wanna spend rage on more ironfur or raze/maul

[sullen mango]

the floor for bear is really high

[plush tendon]

same with Prot War

[sullen mango]

yeah for the dad casual its prob bear & prot as highest skill floor tanks

[south zealot]

prot and bear are both very easy, prot is higher apm and bear is easier to completely grief on id say

[plush tendon]

though caveat to bear

[hoary osprey]

Hey all. Just some quick questions around Revenge:

1. How high a priority is using the free Revenge procs, as opposed to Shield Slam/Thunder Blast
2. Assuming you swap to Execute in that phase, do you just sit on the free Revenge procs, or use those and go back to Execute after?

[plush tendon]

if you dont play with raze and just ironfur spam all your rage

then its easier

[sullen mango]

prot doesnt feel as high apm as blood & maybe that is because prot doesnt have a billion buttons that could be de-bloated

[south zealot]

free revenge is basically useless

[jagged gust]

yes exe replaces revenge, the proc means nothing

[south zealot]

it doesnt change priority ever

[hoary osprey]

Thought so. Didn't seem very important at all

[south zealot]

you use the free revenge in execute if you have no rage and no ss/thunderclap available

which is rare but can happen

[sullen mango]

but Ive played blood for so long I wonder if I played all the fun out & prot just feels fresh after 15 years on the same spec

[hoary osprey]

Gotcha. Just feels very odd to sit on a proc, but is what it is

[south zealot]

the issue with the proc is that sometimes its arguably a loss

[plush tendon]

blood does get a free 10% haste from boneshield

[south zealot]

to not spend the rage

[jagged gust]

Fury/Arms/Prot all have one ability that they hope they don't have to use but will anyways when none of their resets proc

[south zealot]

haste is just low rn

youll get to 80ish apm by the end of the expansion

even more in big m+ pulls

bc you cannot physically spend enough rage

[jagged gust]

Every GCD paired with an IP, can't wait

[sullen mango]

I think for me the feeling is pressing the same button(s) a lot (prot) vs keybindinf an absurd rube goldberg machine (blood)

[plush tendon]

^

I feel that

Tombstone and Bonestorm too much

me no like the 'spend boneshield, get CDR playstyle'

[tender cove]

I was going to level blood as the last tank but you are talking me out of it xD

[sullen mango]

and consumption/blooddrinker, and the new one from deathbringer that should just be an add-on to soul reaper

[plush tendon]

consumption/blooddrinker Im ok with

[proper roost]

Zamn

[plush tendon]

soul reaper Im meh on for all dk specs

[proper roost]

Disliking tombstone

Smh my damn head.

[plush tendon]

its basically just a way to spend 5 boneshields

if it didnt do that... we prob wouldnt use it

bonestorm now does that to

[proper roost]

i mean yeah

this is like

not the first time BDK's done that with bone shield

[plush tendon]

it started SL S3

[proper roost]

Wasn't this

yes

[plush tendon]

and theyve kept it going

me no like

[proper roost]

[sullen mango]

bdk isnt a bad tank, Id still rather play it than brew or pally

[plush tendon]

Blood is still super fun

[sullen mango]

I just feel like blood requires too many keybinds for things you press once per minute

& could consolidate them

[plush tendon]

I am a champion of less keybinds

[tribal wharf]

does blood really take death bringer by default

say it aint so

[plush tendon]

yes

[sullen mango]

yes

[plush tendon]

San Layn should not be played

[tribal wharf]

vampire too over powered imo

[tender cove]

I actually quite like pally. Not sure why everyone hates it so much

[tribal wharf]

blehh

[sullen mango]

they killed sanlayn in tuning

[plush tendon]

they killed San Layn when they made it

[slim current]

this shit makes me want to beat my head against a wall as a solo prot in 8s

[sullen mango]

I like pally mechanically but math says theyre trailing the pack badly rn

[plush tendon]

shouldve been swarming mists and DKs wings

[proper roost]

yall would cry playing wod dk smh my head

[plush tendon]

I played WoD BDK

[sullen mango]

I played wod bdk

[plush tendon]

I think I played necrotic plague unholy more though

[tender cove]

isnt pally higher than warr on dps?

[south zealot]

ppl overplay consecrate all the time

[plush tendon]

[sullen mango]

honestly the worst bdk was mists

for one reason

[plush tendon]

I cant even remember that far back

that was a solid 14 years ago

[sullen mango]

that was the expac that added active mitigation checks but (pressed death strike in the last 4.5s) didnt become bloods AM check until WoD S1

[south zealot]

avengers shield not giving hp ruined the spec

completely

[jagged gust]

I think it's purely from a m+ perspective

[sullen mango]

so if the boss had an AM check mechanic

[plush tendon]

oh I remember that shit

wasnt that in legion also?

[sullen mango]

you had to hope your blood shield held

[sullen mango]

nope after mop they fixed it for bdk

but man was klaxxi paragons bs

[tender cove]

I felt it when they changed it and hated it but it feels pretty fluid now, dont really notice it THAT much.

[sullen mango]

warrior and pally could just push shield

and be safe for 6s

[proper roost]

this is literally such an old complaint

[sullen mango]

bdk had to keep blood shield up

[plush tendon]

I dont like all the focus they have put on judgement

[proper roost]

smh my head choco posting like, what, BFA era ppal design critique

[plush tendon]

Avengers shield is the cool Paladin ability

give me hero talents about Avengers shield

not judgement and hammers

[sullen mango]

at least it still silences right

[plush tendon]

[tender cove]

the cool one is the, damnit, forget the name, the one that shoots out 5 avengers shields, nothing is more fun to press in wow.

[plush tendon]

Divine Toll

[tender cove]

yes

[sullen mango]

purse full o bricks

[plush tendon]

Was too good of a Cov Ability

[coarse lynx]

kinda hoping protadin gets a little more buff love

[sullen mango]

I think the shield of the righteous is a bit feelsybad to press for how short its window is

but at least you arent brew

[south zealot]

exactly and it not giving hp was the start of the end

atleast from my understanding

[plush tendon]

[south zealot]

brew is insanely fun

[plush tendon]

Brew is cool

havnt leveled mine yet

will get to it

[tender cove]

its pretty good now and its with no haste.

[sullen mango]

I have never understood brews appeal despite leveling it every expac trying to see the hype

[plush tendon]

in terms of fun I liked War=DK>VDH=Bear>Paladin

[sullen mango]

but it does have pretty animations

unlike bear

[tender cove]

only thing fun with vdh is double jump and glide :x

[plush tendon]

Fel Dev is fun

[tribal wharf]

my uh dk gettin slammed lfr

[plush tendon]

and the mobility as someone who plays DK mostly is very fun

just zooming around

[tender cove]

yes, its pretty fun, cant lie

[sullen mango]

there was a dungeon run last expac that I watched the war tank basically make all the war mobility look effortless

man basically teleported

so I decided to give it a try this go round

[tender cove]

Havent played bdk since wotlk lol but mine is:
Warr=Pala. VDH. Monk. Bear.

[sullen mango]

prot pally & bdk teach the same fundamentals

[serene mural]

will demo shout reduce the damage of DoT effects on prot (like bleeds) if it debuffs the right mob? If so, will this dynamically update the DoT damage if I use it after the bleed is applied?

[sullen mango]

theyre both low mobility high reach

if you like prot you will like blood

wheelchair tanks

[plush tendon]

I dont really agree with that

WoG is not even close to DS

[tender cove]

Ive always been fond on pala and warr. Just disliked the whole rune system and never got around to play it after changes.

[plush tendon]

I am glad I have my Paladin though

judgement gonna look sweet

can sit in Dornagal looking fly AF

[sullen mango]

Im talking in terms of how they set up pulls less than the way they mitigate

[queen hemlock]

Is shield block shorter now?
Having issues keeping it up aobe 88%

[tender cove]

Without the missing hp scaling talent, wog is so lackluster

[south zealot]

war>=brew>>>>bdk>vdh>ppal>bear

[plush tendon]

Prot Paladin should just be a block tank

there, I said it

[sullen mango]

but prot war is block tank

shield block et all

[plush tendon]

also consecrate is stupid

[tender cove]

Pally to me is so fun because youre an immortal god with good utility that feels fun to use and good support too.

[south zealot]

ppal being the everything tank is cool to me

[plush tendon]

I get the util and support stuff

but immortal god.... eh

[sullen mango]

the real question is most mobile between vdh brew and pwar

[plush tendon]

VDH or Brew

Pwar charge is only useful going in one direction

or if targeting something

Infernal Leap is anywhere

same with roll

[tender cove]

You can bubble, loh, spellwarding, splash around wogs on yourself.

You can just avoid a lot of damage and abilities, but pack to pack, not so immortal no

[plush tendon]

yea, that was what I was getting at

SoTR is never enough

always have to use a CD

[tender cove]

yeh

[plush tendon]

if out of CDs, time to leave

[south zealot]

mobility on a tank only matters if tanks suck

[plush tendon]

mobility is nice to have

underrated stat

[tender cove]

Its a little bit squisher than warr for sure but it feels more gear/scaling related. But i dont know the ins and out of tanks in such a deep way.

[plush tendon]

speed

[south zealot]

if you have to leave, your tank sucks

barring a few exceptions

[plush tendon]

heres a example

on Queen Anserek p3 you have to drop adds away from boss

[tender cove]

on pally feels like you have empty gcds due to low haste, sure you can hammer, blinding light etc.
But feels like hopo generation is low and sotr is suffering due to it.

[plush tendon]

on a BDK can be a bit of a challange to get good distance on your own

as a VDH I can just double leap

or just going up the plateforms in the intermission

[proper roost]

were u even alive during legion wtf...

[round pendant]

lmao the overlaps on the final boss of ara kara

are insane

[south zealot]

i was like 12 and played a havoc dh

when momentum is back, so is egirlchoco

[proper roost]

[tender cove]

hmm? They made heroic dungeons harder in s1?

I cant queue anymore 😒

[onyx sandal]

just got this off a delve. Anyone tested it yet and know if the absorb is off total mob dmg or for each individual mob in a multi mob scenario?

[tender cove]

I have to sleep anyhow but weird with the heroics... gn 🙂

[graceful kite]

ignore mechanics

still win

[tribal wharf]

that shit is going to feel so good when we manage to critical block it

just does like, 2 million

less

[warm dirge]

this decent?

[lusty grotto]

i swear

this has been asked

[tribal wharf]

probably not good

[lusty grotto]

at least

[warm dirge]

hahahaha

[lusty grotto]

5 thousand times today

[proper roost]

🙂

[slim current]

lol thats what the disc is for. but i usually type in the search bar " this good" or stuff and find what i need tehre

[dusky canopy]

I personally enjoy reading nim answer the same question 60 different ways

So keep em coming

[slim current]

same. what a pillar of the community

[proper roost]

keep asking the same question until nim dies of old age