That's wayy too specific and niche
#protection
lime mirage
actions+=/ignore_pain,if=target.health.pct>=20&(rage.deficit<=15&cooldown.shield_slam.ready|rage.deficit<=40&cooldown.shield_charge.ready&talent.champions_bulwark.enabled|rage.deficit<=20&cooldown.shield_charge.ready|rage.deficit<=30&cooldown.demoralizing_shout.ready&talent.booming_voice.enabled|rage.deficit<=20&cooldown.avatar.ready|rage.deficit<=45&cooldown.demoralizing_shout.ready&talent.booming_voice.enabled&buff.last_stand.up&talent.unnerving_focus.enabled|rage.deficit<=30&cooldown.avatar.ready&buff.last_stand.up&talent.unnerving_focus.enabled|rage.deficit<=20|rage.deficit<=40&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&buff.violent_outburst.up&talent.heavy_repercussions.enabled&talent.impenetrable_wall.enabled|rage.deficit<=55&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&buff.violent_outburst.up&buff.last_stand.up&talent.unnerving_focus.enabled&talent.heavy_repercussions.enabled&talent.impenetrable_wall.enabled|rage.deficit<=17&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&talent.heavy_repercussions.enabled|rage.deficit<=18&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&talent.impenetrable_wall.enabled)|(rage>=70|buff.seeing_red.stack=7&rage>=35)&cooldown.shield_slam.remains<=1&buff.shield_block.remains>=4&set_bonus.tier31_2pc,use_off_gcd=1
lmao, that's the wildest shit I've ever seen
strong forum
There are a handful redundancies in there but yes
This 1 thing gave us a 60% dmg increase in SL
From 7k to 11k dps with this 1 little trick
round pendant
That's wayy too specific and niche
I think specific and niche items are cool, man
I guess it might suck if they balance around them too hard tho
strong forum
Yeah but in the scheme of m+, having an item that is only useful once in a dungeon
strong forum
Is pretty bad
halcyon crystal
`actions+=/ignore_pain,if=target.health.pct>=20&(rage.deficit<=15&cooldown.shiel...
what is that
tulip oar
Last bleed removal trinket I remember was from Vanilla.
waxen frigate
APLs are cursed
potent lynx
does anyone know if I level my unemployed ass to T8 delves I'll be able to tag with someone that hasn't unlocked them yet or would they have to level too ?
cerulean tusk
I presume you can't join higher than you could do yourself, same as thorgast
waxen frigate
You need the appropriate level unlocked
potent lynx
okay thanks !
tribal wharf
can't wait for the remainder of this series
i already undersetood most of how the dungeon works, but i understand so much more after watch first half
understand beetles can summon other beetlesand aggro mobs in 50 yards
its done well too, cuz all the abilities have the tool tip on screen while hes talking about the mechanic and how to deal with it, as well as showing the full mechanic visual
tribal wharf
my intention to is avoid uldaman the most unless it got changed LOL
graceful kite
there is no uldaman?
tribal wharf
uhh for keys? so zeros are just the tww dungeons?
keystone master is what im thinking about
graceful kite
Uldaman isn't on the s1 rotation
I thought it's mists boralus grim batol and necrotic wake
tribal wharf
oh, what, hmm, well, i know for sure its mists and necrotic wake and the cataclysm place
tribal wharf
ya, well, if u are playing all pug with no voice group, seige is HELL
just a fair warning
graceful kite
Should be better without bolstering cancer
tribal wharf
its the same way that MGR revengeance at the end with senator armstrong and hes i mpossible and nobody can kill him and the difficulty started easy but REALLY cranked up by the end
that is siege
graceful kite
I don't remember octopus being very hard
graceful kite
I mean I played bfa
tribal wharf
on tyranical keys above a 10 he was basically impossible
graceful kite
even the bad parts
tribal wharf
LFR ghuun on early weeks of that fight............
oh man............
almost as bad as LFR EP that octopus boss with the ramp
blazing condor
spine of deathwing LFR 
waxen frigate
spine of deathwing LFR <:overcooked:1268341266584830096>
They had LFR in cata?
round pendant
weaknesses are cool
not when there's other classes with zero weaknesses
blazing condor
They had LFR in cata?
released it in 4.3
lusty grotto
yes LFR first showed up with the last raid
blazing condor
was hella broken though and RWF guilds would queue in all together and then funnel tier pieces to eachother through some exploit
tribal wharf
i am 1000% positive cuz i got kicked from it or i helped kick some idiot from the raid
vocal flame
oh man............
I LOVED IT! I never laughed so hard in my life, crying from all the people dying
tribal wharf
thats pretty much when i stopped playing rogue too
rogue was too hard to get into raid groups,
blade fury/flury + killing spree is my favorite ability ever
vocal flame
lots of healing intensive fights, trash pulls this season. I feel bad for healers
round pendant
I kinda just wanna become a rogue andy
rogue players are the worst
but what if I become a good rogue player
tribal wharf
envenom does sick damage ST when buffed
always
not so much for outlaw, all you can really do is a big evisecerate, not so exciting
waxen frigate
lots of healing intensive fights, trash pulls this season. I feel bad for healer...
Healers having to heal, oh the misery
tribal wharf
cuz you get fast attacks focused on crits + damage over time poisions,
waxen frigate
not so much for outlaw, all you can really do is a big evisecerate, not so excit...
Nah outlaw you just got a switch and you blast mfs
tribal wharf
envenom is 100% the spec for solo boss never summons adds boss
waxen zephyr
How much uptime can we maintain on shield block?
waxen frigate
100%
waxen zephyr
Okay, I thought so, upon fight we pretty much just hit both charges and keep it on CD?
tribal wharf
keeping shield block up 100% of the time is 1/2 of the puzzle
the other 1/2 is keeping your shield pointed at enemy and not letting enemies hit back (same thing to drop sb or back hit)
waxen frigate
Okay, I thought so, upon fight we pretty much just hit both charges and keep it ...
I don’t really ever slam both charges at once but you can
With heavy repercussions you should be able to maintain uptime trivially though if you’re playing properly
waxen zephyr
Yea, I was reading guides where it was saying to be smart about using shield block but it looked like uptime was high so I was just checking for clarification.
graceful kite
not when there's other classes with zero weaknesses
Like?
waxen frigate
Yeah you just don’t want to accidentally dick yourself and have no charges if there’s downtime followed by significant dmg or something
graceful kite
And if there are it's a problem with those classes
waxen frigate
Or if you get really bad SS resets
And as we naturally get more haste it will only get easier
dusky canopy
@strong forum gm sir pardon ping,
For earthen how would you add a specific gem into the advanced sim when comparing all races?
For exemple my friend wants to compare earthen with haste against all other races
I’m to dumb to do this on mobile 
jaunty jacinth
Does Second Wind's second part apply for while in combat/taking damage?
just to be sure
waxen frigate
The 1% below 35? Yes
lusty grotto
it works in combat yes
waxen frigate
That’s kinda the whole point
strong forum
I’m to dumb to do this on mobile <:keks:936231610850897992>
Same
dusky canopy
jaunty jacinth
The 1% below 35? Yes
how high does it go tho
tribal wharf
the real sim i want to know is
tribal wharf
is HMT faster mining or earthen more ore per node, better
i guess you get +5 mining as hmt, dunno if that translates some how
strong forum
?
strong forum
Wdym "max heal percentage"
jaunty jacinth
hmm
dusky canopy
Exactly 3 moneys worth
jaunty jacinth
Wdym "max heal percentage"
It says the lower u are, the more it heals
tribal wharf
Wdym "max heal percentage"
he means when u are at 1% life
strong forum
It heals 1% of your hp every 2 seconds
tribal wharf
how much more does it heal him for then
waxen zephyr
With heavy repercussions you should be able to maintain uptime trivially though ...
Yup, so if its low damage or off tanking then we should use it sparingly for SS blasts an make sure we have rage for it during transition.
lusty grotto
idk he asked something and then decided to tag you lol
waxen frigate
Yup, so if its low damage or off tanking then we should use it sparingly for SS ...
No you should be keeping it up
It is a 30% buff to your biggest Dps ability and rage generator
strong forum
I'd assume it would heal 2% at 1% hp or smth
waxen frigate
Just not a bad idea to hold a charge sometimes
waxen zephyr
Just not a bad idea to hold a charge sometimes
Yes, I should've clarified but yes I get it. Thanks my dude!
waxen frigate
It heals 1% of your hp every 2 seconds
Isn’t it every 1 second
strong forum
But like it's an insanely good tool to stay at ~30% hp provided you don't get 1shot
waxen frigate
Yes, I should've clarified but yes I get it. Thanks my dude!
Np
tribal wharf
it just seems like overkill
strong forum
But it is insanely overpowered if you can survive around that mark
tribal wharf
dont go below 30% to begin with if we dont have to?
waxen frigate
It again doesn’t have much competition for it’s point
strong forum
Kinda does kinda doesn't
jaunty jacinth
dont go below 30% to begin with if we dont have to?
Could come in handy on high end keys
strong forum
Depends on how much QoL you want
waxen frigate
So there’s not much reason to not play it in lots of content
strong forum
Could come in handy on high end keys
In real scenarios you'd never just chill at 30%
lusty grotto
Could come in handy on high end keys
not really
strong forum
If 1 thing goes wrong you're just dead at that hp
It's neat, but unrealistic to get value out of it
jaunty jacinth
In real scenarios you'd never just *chill* at 30%
True, but could help when a healer isn't present or smt similiar
waxen frigate
In higher keys you tend to die really quick if you are gonna die
Not gonna sit at 30%
strong forum
It can help you survive bosses that do dot dmg
waxen frigate
Yea
strong forum
But outside of that big doubt
waxen frigate
Something like experiments last xpac I’d imagine it would be nice
strong forum
Ye it has more application in raid than anywhere else
lusty grotto
for sure
waxen frigate
Or sark maybe idk how warr played on that fight
strong forum
Yes sark
round pendant
god
strong forum
On zskarn ye big value
waxen frigate
Zskarn yeah second wind would fuck hard
round pendant
people are getting really fucking goofy with tier lists
waxen frigate
people are getting really fucking goofy with tier lists
See my comments in #arms
lusty grotto
yeah nome i know about sark and spell block im just telling nish about its value
strong forum
Also, whats the first candidate to drop for taking Battle-scarred vet
Shield charge + Champions Bulwark
And then you get bsv + bolster
round pendant
See my comments in <#148898720803586048>
Yeah but at least people used to make somewhat reasonable ones
now it's all
strong forum
It's the only real option that isn't trolling
round pendant
gotta avoid putting anything below B tier because that'll upset people!!
waxen frigate
gotta avoid putting anything below B tier because that'll upset people!!
Tier lists are literally just content bait
jaunty jacinth
And then you get bsv + bolster
wouldn't Champs bulwark be enough tho?
waxen frigate
I get why people make them but it doesn’t make them not stupid as fuck
Anyone who listens to them is actually missing brain cells
lusty grotto
wouldn't Champs bulwark be enough tho?
you dont need shield charge if you dont pick champs bulwark
round pendant
If everyone is saying something is S tier it's probably good, that's where the "value" lies
strong forum
Dropping Ravager is trolling
Dropping BV is trolling
Dropping outburst is trolling
Dropping enduring Alacrity is trolling
Dropping only champions bulwark and then having SC do nothing is also trolling
round pendant
but yes tier lists aren't that good
strong forum
You need the block uptime from champions bulwark
So if you don't pick that
You need bolster
tulip oar
They had LFR in cata?
It's where it started.
strong forum
If you want bsv, you need to drop SC
jaunty jacinth
it' does some prio damage on it's own, wouldn't that be worth having instead of bolster?
lusty grotto
no
lusty grotto
are you worried about damage or block uptime?
strong forum
You're left without block
lusty grotto
pick one
jaunty jacinth
Ah so there'd be gaps?
strong forum
There are gaps with champions bulwark
jaunty jacinth
xD
strong forum
What do you think happens when you drop it
jaunty jacinth
ait got it
lusty grotto
im guessing this guy aint reading what non-oranges are saying
tribal wharf
no block = u die = wipe = failed raid boss attempt/ key
strong forum
If your goal is survival, that's the only smart choice you can do
My recommendation is however
To just not play bsv
jaunty jacinth
Ye, thats the logical way. new to pwarr anyways
strong forum
It's just not in the budget
To play a talent that's most of the time gonna proc at times where it didn't really matter
And instead drop talents that will prevent you to drop to low hp to begin with
And net more rage gen
jaunty jacinth
About the Spell Block, we do get the same base block value on every magic damage i assume?
jaunty jacinth
To play a talent that's most of the time gonna proc at times where it didn't rea...
Yea other than purg on bdk, other cheat-death like talents are just wasted points
strong forum
its not even that
BSV isnt even a cheat
if it was a cheat it would be useful
but its just a valk proc that is very costly to get and 4x the CD
molten gorge
I'd imagine like anything, it depends no?
molten gorge
Ya exactly
waxen frigate
Which is basically an always-play
graceful kite
just don't die
molten gorge
I mean if you're at the bleeding edge of high keys, I'd expect it will see some use
lusty grotto
good thing there arent any cheat trinkets around lmao
tribal wharf
i think we will have a few barbaric training guys come here soon
molten gorge
But people do love just copying what the high key enjoyers do in their weekly runs
peak bobcat
Does Intervene+ spellblock work to block casts targeted to allies?
lusty grotto
Does Intervene+ spellblock work to block casts targeted to allies?
no
tribal wharf
no, at you
strong forum
just don't die
thats usually my approach ye
havent depleted a key yet to my fuckup
jaunty jacinth
So intervene normally works on physical attacks?
graceful kite
Tanks in keys usually die last, warrior is the last tank that needs a cheat death effect
tribal wharf
we die last or die fast
strong forum
So intervene normally works on physical attacks?
literally says only melee and ranged attacks, which does not include spells
graceful kite
if you do your rotation correctly you will survive
If your heal sucks your dps players will die before you
jaunty jacinth
Yea had to be sure, tooltips are not user friendly on wow
graceful kite
especially with warrior being very simple to heal
strong forum
real
graceful kite
smoothest damage intake, great always active cooldowns
lusty grotto
when played correctly
strong forum
big if
lusty grotto
lol yea
graceful kite
If you're playing incorrectly you will die after your cheat death procs
molten gorge
I'd argue there theoretically exists a scenario in which the key is so high and the dmg so great that the "cheat death" is the only way to survive
vocal flame
Nom is Cruel Strikes being replaced by Endurance Training the only change for m+? Only one I noticed but want to make sure.
graceful kite
and warrior is very simple to play 90% correctly
molten gorge
Whether that ever occurs is another matter
But it is possible it has some very niche use
waxen frigate
Nom is Cruel Strikes being replaced by Endurance Training the only change for m+...
You don’t really need to take endurance training
graceful kite
true, but people in those keys have understanding of that and can plan for themselves
waxen frigate
You can but it’s not a very meaningful point either way
molten gorge
Ya for sure
vocal flame
You don’t really need to take endurance training
I follow what Nom says
waxen frigate
Okay I’ll die
graceful kite
and since I think SL season 1 key progression stops when dps and heal are dying, tank is still fine
waxen frigate
and since I think SL season 1 key progression stops when dps and heal are dying,...
SL s1 is actually the exception
graceful kite
I spelled in incorrectly
waxen frigate
That was hard kite meta
graceful kite
since after sl season 1
jaunty jacinth
thats how i felt when berserker just didnt engage with us
xD sorry didn't mean to do that
jaunty jacinth
I missed ur message
graceful kite
I think cheat isn't even good as training wheels for warrior
jaunty jacinth
only nome replies, i get it
No worries, i got plenty of questions incoming
lusty grotto
its not
strong forum
only nome replies, i get it
hey aslong as you get it
jaunty jacinth
on any tank
On BDK it could be tho
graceful kite
It's nice for dks to understand to not take 3 caster bolts at the same time or not to sync enemy melee swings or to help a dh who has natural mitigation gaps
waxen frigate
cheat isnt good training wheels for anyone
It is in raid prog
graceful kite
we just press everything and clap
waxen frigate
Use it early and drop it once comfortable
vocal flame
Okay I’ll die
noooo, everyone here is great
lusty grotto
anything that makes you ignore what youre dying to is just not training wheels at all
waxen frigate
noooo, everyone here is great
This is Nish’s mom he’s dead. You killed my son. My baby. How could you
waxen frigate
anything that makes you ignore what youre dying to is just not training wheels a...
It’s not
Cheat procs -> I should put a CD there
Simple as
jaunty jacinth
This is Nish’s mom he’s dead. You killed my son. My baby. How could you
He wasn't orange enough.
lusty grotto
im talking average player here nish
proper roost
nimchip I need your body for t8 delves tonight
lusty grotto
i raid tonight
vocal flame
This is Nish’s mom he’s dead. You killed my son. My baby. How could you
Nish you are great! If I ever saw you in game I would bow like I do with Nim
graceful kite
Cheat procs -> I should put a CD there
as a warrior you should put a cd always
lusty grotto
its hero week
graceful kite
you have like a 100 cds
waxen frigate
as a warrior you should put a cd always
Yeah that’s the case with all tanks but on prog you don’t necessarily know as easily
graceful kite
dungeon journal says boss does bonk you press thing on bonk
If you get oneshot you get CRed
waxen frigate
If you get oneshot you get CRed
Which is a huge waste
graceful kite
meaningful punishment for a severe mistake
waxen frigate
You just shouldn’t die as a tank
molten gorge
graceful kite
as it should be
molten gorge
🤭
graceful kite
You just shouldn’t die as a tank
and mechanics which make you immune to dying kind of make this idea dumb
waxen frigate
I… yeah? That’s what I’m saying,
But on fights like fyrakk for example there’s variables
And a ton of CD use that needs to be precise
proper roost
why are you arguing about mythic prog tanking with people who have only done normals
graceful kite
Was it exorsus who got banned for abusing tank dying on helya?
proper roost
ripe lynx
Is there an up to date spell reflect list/aura?
waxen frigate
I believe the pinned sheet from Sense is always up to date
I don’t know if any weakauras that are kept up to date though
minor forge
Can I just spam dungeons till 80?
Played brew so far, but feel the need to play some beefyboi like back in the s1 df so bad
waxen frigate
Yes
ripe lynx
I believe the pinned sheet from Sense is always up to date
Thanks 👍 it is, I'm also looking for an aura for Nerubar palace specifically
waxen frigate
It takes 3 hours or so
waxen frigate
Thanks 👍 it is, I'm also looking for an aura for Nerubar palace specifically
Spell reflect is less commonly useful in raid other than as a DR
ripe lynx
Ok, I'm tanking my first raid so I'm looking to cover every angle 😉
waxen frigate
Yeah, that’s smart for sure
But I don’t think you can usually reflect stuff for damage in raid
Deflects are occasional
But remember to be liberal with your CDs
minor forge
It takes 3 hours or so
Don't know if I will be that efficient, but hopefully won't take me more than 5-6 hours with 10% warband bonus xp
waxen frigate
Reflect is a very short CD for a whole lot of DR
graceful kite
Don't know if I will be that efficient, but hopefully won't take me more than 5-...
dungeon spam is the most optimal leveling
waxen frigate
Don't know if I will be that efficient, but hopefully won't take me more than 5-...
If you’re queueing as tank it will be 4-5 hours tops even if you’re taking it slow
I took maybe 4 hrs on my pally with 10%
lusty grotto
it took me more or less that
but obviously i did 5 chars so it took less every new tank
waxen frigate
I was pulling like a maniac tbf
lusty grotto
i still have brew to level
lusty grotto
gonna be my last alt for a bit
lusty grotto
lmao
waxen frigate
Her fault for playing aff tbh
proper roost
dps whining about ramp in leveling dungeons is cringe
like just kill the boss that's the only thing ur here for smh
waxen frigate
I mean we were neck and neck on those
proper roost
neck dn
lusty grotto
thats why i went templar on chipadin
i aint playing herald to level
thats just ramp/dot
waxen frigate
thats why i went templar on chipadin
I mean same
And Templar all last week when it was bugged and I did 1.2mil overall in a dungeon
🙂
lusty grotto
lmao yeah i noticed
waxen frigate
At like 575 with bad trinkets
lusty grotto
did some heroics last night and i was like "hold up why cant i spam hammer"
waxen frigate
toxic pewter
lusty grotto
got haste?
waxen frigate
🤔
lusty grotto
graceful kite
Wish I could level a paladin
lusty grotto
i didnt tank
kanga tanked
i was full on ret
which is why i said herald and not lightsmith
waxen frigate
Oh lol
lusty grotto
proper roost
I like playing hammer ret though
Well I don't like the animation it seems weirdly delayed
lusty grotto
yeah its delayed
proper roost
and it seems kind of impossible not to overcap hopo
but it's kind of fun trying to squeeze in extra hammer casts
I assume templar just plays like... normal TV spam?
regular ret is kinda braindead ass spec ngl
sick trellis
Vers or crit linning for our embelishments?
lusty grotto
pretty much braindead yea
waxen zephyr
Wish I could level a paladin
After leveling both Prot War and Pally, the War can take WAY more damage and abuse. Though I do miss the utility a bit, but you can get around that with War.
Like seriously, its not even close.
novel comet
Only thing I like more about prot pally over prot war is avengers shield.
bronze pewter
Avengers Shield is Bae for sure.
toxic pewter
lol ain’t no way I am standing in some circle
I got places to be
Nothin worse than a circle stander in this game
proper roost
apb stands for always pbe based
toxic pewter
Just tellin it like it is
rigid hull
can i turn off glow on a specific spell?
cerulean tusk
Apb stands for always provocative brazent
You can adjust WA bars and you want - vanilla, I don't think you can
proper roost
Alexa please define brazent
toxic pewter
Basically when u cook food in oven at high temp near the heat
proper roost
Thanks
wind prawn
Hey guys, anyone have a good spell refect weak aura for S1 dungeons?
mellow quartz
Hey guys, anyone have a good spell refect weak aura for S1 dungeons?
if you search wago for 'spell reflect' its literally the first thing that comes up
mellow quartz
yup
wind prawn
I looked at the spell list and it doesn't seem comprehensive
compared to the pinned sheet
mellow quartz
you can add your own if you want, havent looked at how complete it is but the sheet has a lot of blockable spells also, not just reflectable
astral crystal
huge start bois, les go
toxic pewter
huge start bois, les go
isnt that the trinket everyone wants
wind prawn
isnt that the trinket everyone wants
yup
toxic pewter
which boss drops it
toxic pewter
first one right
wind prawn
Yeah first
lusty grotto
https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321
are servers up?
astral crystal
nah im trollin
lusty grotto
xD
lusty grotto
They’re up??
are they?
lofty warren
Ain't no way up this fast
waxen frigate
I don’t think so but I’m at work anwhay
lusty grotto
I don’t think so but I’m at work anwhay
sir can you check
waxen frigate
No
rain light
I checked
toxic pewter
servers not up, but the realm list is appearing and showing offline
astral crystal
it's been like that since they went down
toxic pewter
interesting
lofty warren
Notice said 4 hour downtime
toxic pewter
that means they deployed all the changes and stuff last thursday probably and using this time to literally log into them and test everything to make sure its not broken
proper roost
nah im trollin
coward, i'm going to repost this in other servers and not say any follow up statements
toxic pewter
lol
astral crystal
coward, i'm going to repost this in other servers and not say any follow up stat...
yesss
toxic pewter
I expected anything
lusty grotto
group buffs rule the game, thats it
edgy bone
This is intense
Bunch of super awkward priority list going on with violent outburst all because of mountain thane
cerulean tusk
Akward how?
true plaza
I would simply have an eye on that but like really 100% min maxing this is absolutely not possible
true plaza
well
lofty warren
Just wait until you get to execute aoe in wowhead priority list. That confused me a bunch
cerulean tusk
Execute shine, you press - big stonkz, feel good
true plaza
but seems like common sense that u use shield slam for single target on that procc instead of TC
proper roost
did they massively buff prot execute since DF btw
DF prot execute felt really piddly compared to now 🤔
cerulean tusk
They gave it a minor buff, yea
cerulean tusk
Basically bumped it to old prot 2h strenght
toxic pewter
wouldnt say 50% is a minor buff lol
proper roost
that doesn't sound minor
toxic pewter
it hits harder than arms
cerulean tusk
It already did tho
true plaza
it feels strong yea
toxic pewter
well even harder then
toxic pewter
df execute was the worst iteration of execute in twenty years of wow
proper roost
nah there's been worse
toxic pewter
well not imo
proper roost
cata execute wowee...
toxic pewter
math wise prob sure
cerulean tusk
Well, mathwise I will say legion had the most traumatic math problem with execute ever seen
gilded tendonBOT
🧦
toxic pewter
the drop from sl exe to df exe is one of the worst nerfs in wow history tbh
gilded tendonBOT
fuk u @lusty grotto
true plaza
u didnt see sod then
toxic pewter
lolwtf eyir
lusty grotto
how rude
edgy bone
@cerulean tusk @true plaza Yeah but it's not that simple
cerulean tusk
SL Maldraxus Executes was da biggest
true plaza
<@237283524040851459> <@1085280451649867797> Yeah but it's not that simple
tbh it is
edgy bone
i dont know why i was thinking what I was thinking
true plaza
when u get the procc
toxic pewter
yah df execute when compared to sl execute is so sad
true plaza
single target shield slam
cerulean tusk
Well, most abilities after we lost banner and its 56% str mod kinda blew
toxic pewter
lol
lusty grotto
indeed
true plaza
aoe thunderclap with avatar and then when u got the thunderclap procc +2 targets and without it +4
lusty grotto
funky is correct
true plaza
btw if u press avatar u get 2 free proccs of thunderblast
toxic pewter
yes
true plaza
so its not that hard to manage
u see violent outburst u hit avatar
u hit ur TB
boom
true plaza
u just have a lot of APM
cerulean tusk
do 2 mill dps
lusty grotto
smh
true plaza
thats all there is to prot warrior
cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
me no think me strong
true plaza
u press more buttons than a beastmaster in his entire life cycle
but man it feels good to be a prot warrior
cerulean tusk
Btw, demo is getting kinda fun when ya really try to minmax packs into it
It a lot of damage
lusty grotto
funky
toxic pewter
lol
true plaza
bro do u know whats not funny
lusty grotto
stop
true plaza
playing ele shaman
toxic pewter
demo XD
true plaza
I got him to 80 for fun pvp
lusty grotto
its too early for this shit
true plaza
but pve it feels so stationary
edgy bone
Btw, demo is getting kinda fun when ya really try to minmax packs into it
demonology warlock?
edgy bone
oh
lusty grotto
lurkers: we use demo for demoralizing shout, funky is just built wrong
true plaza
bro warlocks wear cloth
cerulean tusk
Demo sounds so good, it is da way
toxic pewter
yeh but demo is already demo shout
cerulean tusk
It strong enough to carry both
as TR is both roar and rage
Demo will reign supreme!
lusty grotto
how about dn
toxic pewter
wat u mean tr is rage
cerulean tusk
about dn what?
true plaza
my rage is going insane if u ever talk about dressing as a clothie ever again
my little ppc
okey mc heat 3 time
cerulean tusk
wat u mean tr is rage
Titanic Rage, for ya noob
lusty grotto
dreadnaught funky, dreadnaught
toxic pewter
lol
lusty grotto
dreadnaught deez nuts
toxic pewter
wtf who is going around saying tr is titanic rage
toxic pewter
omg
cerulean tusk
I doubt it
toxic pewter
yes but only if you kill it on a priest
toxic pewter
oh lol
cerulean tusk
Hell naww
toxic pewter
wtf they got tf in sod now
cerulean tusk
cause you wont play that game
true plaza
bwl is out next phase
toxic pewter
i see
lusty grotto
sod talk
true plaza
in like 1 to 3 weeks
lusty grotto
true plaza
bro sod is not great I know
lusty grotto
get fucked
toxic pewter
all I know is the war within is an actual work of art
cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
i am impressed with this xpac
cerulean tusk
They turned off gifs?
true plaza
war within is really good rn
lusty grotto
apparently
proper roost
Well, mathwise I will say legion had the most traumatic math problem with execut...
was prot warrior even a spec in legion? I feel like it wasn't for at least the first two tiers (didn't play after tos)
cerulean tusk
MODS! WTF!?
true plaza
prot warrior was a thing since tbc
toxic pewter
maybe its a discord issue
cerulean tusk
Nah, blame the mods
toxic pewter
other servers it working?
lusty grotto
prot warriors were just removed from the game by star augur, member kanga?
true plaza
in wotlk no one wanted to play prot warrior because prot paladin was so busted that not a single top guild took a warrior
proper roost
I think I literally have posts from that time here cuz it was so dire
cerulean tusk
ye, it working
proper roost
💀
cerulean tusk
only here it not
lusty grotto
in wotlk no one wanted to play prot warrior because prot paladin was so busted t...
wrong
edgy bone
Demolish needs to be able to move while using
cerulean tusk
you can move while you cast Demo, what do you mean?
proper roost
👴
true plaza
more damage, tankier, more self sustain, better utility
lusty grotto
so?
edgy bone
you can move while you cast Demo, what do you mean?
isnt it like 90% reduced movespeed
toxic pewter
Demolish needs to be able to move while using
demolish you actually do move but its like 1% movement speed.. if you get enough speed you actually can see yourself moving.
cerulean tusk
99%
lusty grotto
im not talking to a classic andy when i did this things in the original one
proper roost
nimchip about to talk about his everquest 1.0 days on god...
true plaza
it was literally 99% more sought after for every top guild bro it was a mess
edgy bone
Just make demolish 0% speed reduction and it'll be fun
toxic pewter
we all should stack speed and be moving demolishers
lusty grotto
classic andy speaking
cerulean tusk
@strong forum tell them to bring back gifs for prot, we are faling apart in here 
lusty grotto
true and real
proper roost
i'm not even going to bother addressing this person because they're wrong on like 15 levels
toxic pewter
honestly classic people are all coming back to retail.. I even had a guy whisper me asking if tww is good to ocme back to
proper roost
but like, yapping at them is pointless lol
true plaza
oh yea for sure its wrong that paladin was superior in any way
thanks for stating ur facts
proper roost
honestly classic people are all coming back to retail.. I even had a guy whisper...
well yes
cataclysm is dogshit
cerulean tusk
You are dogshit
proper roost
cerulean tusk
proper roost
why he have to be right tho..
toxic pewter
classic has like 6 people playing it these days
proper roost
so true
true plaza
thats even wrong
toxic pewter
cities are ghostowns
true plaza
wotlk in china has more players than tww
proper roost
no joke by the end of SoM, there was one (1) guild playing Naxxramas
it was very funny
toxic pewter
na that is fake news
toxic pewter
my best friend is chinese I will ask him right now
true plaza
do it
its insane rn
wow has its all time peak right now with wotlk in china
- tww and other expansions ofc
true plaza
On 2 targets, do I use my violent outburst proc on thunder blast or shield slam?
depends on procc
if u got thundebrlast
on +2
if u got normal thunderclap
on +4
true plaza
but again if u hit avatar u get 2 free thunderblast proccs so consider that
if u specced into it ofc
edgy bone
but again if u hit avatar u get 2 free thunderblast proccs so consider that
On 2 targets, is thunderblast greater than shield slam?
toxic pewter
with avatar
edgy bone
I dont think that's right
true plaza
only with avatar
true plaza
yup
toxic pewter
someone make a path image
true plaza
without it its always shield slam
true plaza
but again if ur tanking just a bunch of adds
u can spam ur thunderclap anyway
if u got adds + a big boi or a boss
okey consider it
but just trash pull its whatever u will spam ur aoe anyway
toxic pewter
thats me
cerulean tusk
That is me looking at Fury ST talents
proper roost
https://tenor.com/view/sadge-cliff-sad-saaadge-gif-18209034
this is prot warriors when they charge off the ledge on Krosus
🫡
cerulean tusk
Warriors before they fixed the spidor
true plaza
bro but I am amazed that prot warrior got a b ranking while guardian druid is a
toxic pewter
motw
cerulean tusk
We bring battleshout, one of the strongest buffs in the game atm! 
toxic pewter
no one wants battleshout
true plaza
yea big buff but isnt guardian really weak against magic damage
cerulean tusk
ppl just behind on the meta shift
toxic pewter
in pvp battle shout also gives 3% stamina with a pvp talent
toxic pewter
might as well bring a monk in that group tho?
proper roost
no one wants battleshout
Speak for yourself.
toxic pewter
or am i missing something
true plaza
resto shaman, arcane mage, elemental shaman, monk and another caster or sum shit hahaha
yea monk is good rn but resto shaman goes nuts if we are speaking healing
toxic pewter
Speak for yourself.
I mean i love battle shout but seems most people pay it no mind
proper roost
Maybe you're forgetting to press it
true plaza
just press rallying cry
toxic pewter
they need to remove its cd
they need to remove battle shout cd and let it affect people not in party
urban bane
tribal wharf
i used to have weak aura that would say how many players its missing on in party
true plaza
I want to shout at my healer ingame
toxic pewter
next expansion new class def gonna be some sort of void based class
like voidbound or some crap
true plaza
void warrior
playable allied race dark trolls
for alliance
and women have beards
arent they stones how do they even have beards
edgy bone
Is this right?
toxic pewter
lolol
true plaza
why did u make a sheet for this
edgy bone
idk
true plaza
bro its not that serious hahaha
edgy bone
i am having troubler understanding
violet ginkgo
sheet is important 😄
edgy bone
not smart like u guys
true plaza
bro is a grinder
toxic pewter
I think a 'choose your path' graph would work better
edgy bone
I think a 'choose your path' graph would work better
what's that?
true plaza
Is this right?
I would say at +6 targets u can also consider using thunderclap BUT if u are lucky u get thunderblast proccs out of ur shield slam and can then hit it
so yea should be fine
violet ginkgo
I mean if you sent the outburst on SS while there are 3 target alive instead of TB it won't make that much difference, I mean primary job to make enemy die is DPS job not exactly your primary, it is your job too but definitely not primary.
proper roost
Is this right?
this is actually insanely based
tropic tangle
80/20 rule, it's more important to fill GCDs than to delay GCDs because you're thinking too hard
*assuming you have a good general idea of the prio
ancient reef
right cause lost dps is not regainable
violet ginkgo
sorry what is this 80/20 rule? I am new to this term
ancient reef
its what patton said
make a decision now is better than a good decision later
or basically that
tropic tangle
80% of possible performance is derived from 20% of possible effort
toxic pewter
I told chatgpt to make a flowchart based on the image of the outburst proc rules and this is what it made:
LOL
tropic tangle
that's amazing
tropic tangle
tape that next to your monitor and consult it during dungeons
toxic pewter
yes
toxic pewter
Shunder BLast!!
tropic tangle
I love when I Shield Osfrast
toxic pewter
XD
proper roost
Violent Outburst.... or loss 😔
cerulean tusk
I am just going to send thunderclap and see lightning, while you guys do your silly shieldslam
Buff Demo
toxic pewter
lol
mighty valley
apb burned a tree to make that
proper roost
true actually
toxic pewter
chat gpt truly is ahead of the curve
edgy bone
@true plaza @toxic pewter Does this look more right?
tribal wharf
toxic pewter
<@1085280451649867797> <@185160009074737153> Does this look more right?
yes that is good
true plaza
but again its not that deep brother
toxic pewter
that is the 'life of a outbursting prot warr' chart
true plaza
if ur a mythic raider I would understand that but relax a bit
tribal wharf
VO or loss, thunder blaited lol
edgy bone
if ur a mythic raider I would understand that but relax a bit
Mayb e you can coach me in M+ this season
true plaza
bro I have a job
mighty valley
you can't have a flowchart that ends with "shield slam unless 8+ targets"
lusty grotto
i cant believe we're omega overthinking prot prio
toxic pewter
you can't have a flowchart that ends with "shield slam unless 8+ targets"
lol yeah i saw that also sort of need another tree there
mellow quartz
That image should be pinned and always ‘refer to the pins’ when people ask for prio or rotations.
tribal wharf
i cant believe we're omega overthinking prot prio
just press shield slam and block and buttons that make lightning effects really
toxic pewter
I mean the outburst proc usage is the final piece of skill expression the prot warr has tbh so it does sort of warrant this indepth conversation
edgy bone
regardless of what sims say
true plaza
nah thats not right but I like the spirit
tropic tangle
generate rage, don't cap rage, shield block up
edgy bone
VDH demon hunter are stronger
no we are stronger
we are god king
we are literal heroes
toxic pewter
i own any dh any day of week
edgy bone
mountain king
tropic tangle
atm machine
mellow quartz
Someone ask chatgpt who is the bestest tank
true plaza
rip me
I have to buy consumes while talking with warriors
ragnaros needs to be killed today
toxic pewter
W
mellow quartz
AI can’t be wrong
true plaza
the funny part is we dont have weaknesses and chatgpt knows that
tribal wharf
- Protection Warrior
Strengths:
Excellent mitigation through abilities like Shield Block and Ignore Pain.
High mobility with Heroic Leap and Intervene.
Consistently good damage output for a tank.
Strong for both raiding and Mythic+.
Weaknesses:
Can be vulnerable when Shield Block isn't up.
edgy bone
toxic pewter
yes
tribal wharf
lusty grotto
gosh darn it
tribal wharf
gpt based
mighty valley
unban gifs, ban chatgpt screenshots
lusty grotto
honestly if they ban gifs, they should ban chagpt
toxic pewter
XD
lusty grotto
harrow you beat me to it
toxic pewter
you two.. sound like.. bots..
lusty grotto
great minds think alike
toxic pewter
how do we know u r not ai
lusty grotto
what is this about, fellow human?
tribal wharf
youtube videos sure, gifs nah, not unless it becomes a bunch of anime gifs or somethin
toxic pewter
XD
tribal wharf
u know what i meant, i meant it other way arou nd
mighty valley
i'd rather see a hundred anime gifs than one chatgpt paragraph
tribal wharf
gpt better than google for information
mighty valley
gpt better than google for information
mostly because google also spits out ai garbage now
mighty valley
but here you go <a:woo:1171395617839382559>
see. this brings me a spark of joy
tribal wharf
nah, back in year 2000 internet was good and you got what you searched for on google
doesnt work like that any more
lusty grotto
at least we can still post pictures
@waxen frigate can you check the changes on my mog?
here you go
very clear changes in that one
not as subtle at the last 10 requests
toxic pewter
hello
placid night
Ok Any News About Crafting For Prot ?
toxic pewter
lol
placid night
About What Is the Best Option
minor forge
Funny how the two tanks I like and play now are the tanks I didn't play in legion hence no mage tower appearances on them
placid night
And What Is The Best Embleshmet
toxic pewter
check pins
placid night
He Said dont Craft
plush tendon
no reason to rush a craft
wait for tuning, let market settle down (cause everyone and their mother is prob trying to get a craft today and thats gonna be $$)
the literal best thing to do for this week and next week is gonna be researching the fights and dungeons
lusty grotto
the guides have a list of embelishments
but like they mentioned, tuning might happen so keep that in mind
also whats up with capitalizing every word lol
waxen frigate
here you go
Huge
lusty grotto
edgy bone
how long did it take you guys to farm thunderfury and how many characters did it take
lusty grotto
why do you keep capitalizing every word
lusty grotto
Ok Good To Know
tribal wharf
You have the right to remain silent.
lusty grotto
Get Fucked
toxic pewter
you must of been toxic
plush tendon
toxic pewter
ok you are trolling lol
placid night
I Have A Lot character And Never Chat In Game
lusty grotto
someone must have taken offense in the capitalizing of every word
graceful kite
Did someone ping me?
tribal wharf
its best u bring it up to blizzard rather than us
all we can do is feel bad for you
toxic pewter
yeah blizz will tell you why they silenced you
you wont be able to use group finder either
tribal wharf
banned from raiding :S
toxic pewter
being silenced actually sucks lol
graceful kite
Guys What I Can To Do ?
If you're eu nothing
toxic pewter
dont realize how communication is so good until you lose it
lusty grotto
if you get silenced you deserve it
and its better for everyone if you do
including yourself
toxic pewter
yah hopefully it is a learning experience
graceful kite
being silenced actually sucks lol
We had a guy in sepulcher who really asked to tank the tier and after that developed a habit of getting drunk and typing n word in /1
toxic pewter
O_O
graceful kite
dude literally pulled anduin opened chat and got instantly banned
lusty grotto
hoooooooooooooooooooly
graceful kite
cuz it was like 6th time
toxic pewter
yeah blizz will ban people
lusty grotto
sounds like an rbg player
graceful kite
dota player
toxic pewter
ngl nothing has tested my communication limits than wow pvp
tribal wharf
i think, if extra toxic player gets banned, especially in a raid or a key
gm pop up
fuck u
get fucket
toxic pewter
i have to close my chat sometimes
tribal wharf
banned infront of players gms dissapear
lusty grotto
im a dota player and i dont fling racist shit
toxic pewter
is dota still really toxic i remember it was very toxic
graceful kite
is dota still really toxic i remember it was very toxic
eu servers extremely
graceful kite
but it's the best part of game
lusty grotto
but yeah its toxic
plush tendon
mobas are only fun if you have a 5 stack
toxic pewter
I mean even back in warcraft 3 I think it was toxic too now that I think about it lmao
plush tendon
with the bois
graceful kite
If you didn't hear someone screaming slurs for 10 minutes it means you have voice chat turned off
toxic pewter
yep
plush tendon
otherwise, playing solo que is a test of patience and how much you want to hurt yourself
graceful kite
I'm actually fully fine with chat toxicity if they don't start ruining the game
tribal wharf
u guys clearly havent experience 2006-2018 xbox live call of duty halo voice chat
toxic pewter
XD
tribal wharf
i heard so much bad words on there lmao
plush tendon
tribal wharf
i mean it calmed down alot
plush tendon
MW2 with the bois after school
graceful kite
It's the same it's just sanitized inside game chats
plush tendon
good times
tribal wharf
i mean shit, type mw2 lobby in youtube if you are brave
lusty grotto
i dont need a 2nd hand experience
plush tendon
the MW2 lobby music lives rent free in my brain
plush tendon
hell, I remember my loadout
lusty grotto
loadout dn
graceful kite
if you get silenced you deserve it
nah that's fake
a lot of spam reports going around
plush tendon
Urban Scar-H Silencer, Spas-12 Grip, Sleight of Hand, Cold Blooded, Ninja
graceful kite
like if you craft things for people with no fees
tribal wharf
back in cod4 i really liked the RPD light machine gun