protection

[robust urchin]

Reserved for Varian Logosh set

[jagged gust]

im getting the paladin one and dipping

[proper roost]

i bought like 8 different things idk

[plush tendon]

bro, you gotta get the DK and Monk set

and Im a tier 2 warrior enjoyer (I understand people who arent... but I like it)

[robust urchin]

I'm getting all the sets just to have them

[jagged pier]

it all comes back around

[jagged gust]

just bring back T3 so my hunter can finally finish his set (I aint paying gold cap for that shit)

[strong forum]

its not gold cap tho

[jagged pier]

no where close to gold cap

[robust urchin]

It's only like a few mil

[jagged pier]

u can do it for free

[robust urchin]

Just sell a few tokens

[jagged pier]

or its like 2 mil now i would imagine

it was 4 mil when it came out

[plush tendon]

100%

[jagged gust]

Isn't that per piece?

[plush tendon]

and his sword

[jagged pier]

no

i farmed half the pieces first week and bought the other half cost me 2 mil at the time

its really not that expensive

or just do the farm

depending on how many chars u have

could take u 2 weeks

[jagged gust]

I figured the crafting fee was the hefty portion of the cost

[jagged pier]

do u know how cheap it is to level a classic prof?

like 1000g

wel done u can do it yourself

[robust urchin]

But don't you need to have a set to be able to craft them now

[jagged gust]

you need the full set in order to craft it

[jagged pier]

cant remerb it was a long time ago

but it wasnt spenny at the time

and more ppl will have it now

[robust urchin]

Also I'm pretty sure there are some vendor mats you have to buy

[jagged pier]

like i can craft them all if i want now

[robust urchin]

I don't think you can farm everything

[jagged pier]

yer thats the expensive part

but its not as bad as the engi mount

[tribal wharf]

100% all of a profession is usually to colossal of a task for anyone to collect all of the recipes across all of the expansions

with ones tied behind rep and then crafting bop ones for appearance

will send you to random quartmaster in the boonies

[cold pilot]

Anyone got a good OmniCD profile?

[lusty grotto]

Quazii or dorki have free ones

[waxen frigate]

https://youtu.be/CuJ5y5f4l4s?si=ZBf4nrG0Z93WmlfE @tribal wharf @robust urchin @lusty grotto

The thing I mentioned earlier

[robust urchin]

I weep for mankind

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/ofergang-daniel-gif-25330530

We are not the same

[proper roost]

We really gotta show yogi the costco guys

[tribal wharf]

15 of 10 autotuning voice

[lusty grotto]

Good fucking lord Nish

[robust urchin]

If you listen to this unironically you're a bad person

Or like 10

[jagged gust]

Fuck I shoulda opened that in a private browser

[lusty grotto]

I wish I could unclick that

[robust urchin]

In that case please do not @ me or dm me

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/big-aj-big-justice-boom-costco-guys-gif-13543695932005238540

We gonna bring yogi the BOOM

[proper roost]

these guys dont know about the costco guys

[waxen frigate]

They were on pro wrestling the other day

AEW

[proper roost]

we should make nimchip sit through the entire costco guys song

yeah i heard

[lusty grotto]

I've already seen it

[jagged gust]

Okay I can't tell if this is or isn't about NL anymore

[jagged pier]

if u guys think thats bad you obviously have never heard of Ice JJ fish

[proper roost]

they rated wrestlers boom or doom

[lusty grotto]

Lmao

[proper roost]

MJF got a doom

🫡

[waxen frigate]

LMAO

[robust urchin]

Only good meme music was made by one of the OGs of meme music

My man Krispy Kream

Aka Froggy Fresh

[waxen frigate]

Shawty wanna fuck

[proper roost]

wrong, man, you don't even know about flynt flossy

or the various homestar runner songs

Sad.

[waxen frigate]

https://youtu.be/RPX44xvUmFA?si=6TkVTa0aYcNZVkel

2009, he really was ahead of his time

[lusty grotto]

Jesus christ

[proper roost]

or two trucks (slowed down reverbed)

[jagged gust]

bro is channeling his inner bone thugs n harmony

finna meet me at the crossroads

[waxen frigate]

Can’t wait to post my all time favorite YouTube video in 2 days

[proper roost]

do not say finna

[robust urchin]

https://youtu.be/XArx0ASwyDc?si=Rx36R7jbBBIX6VxE

[proper roost]

Is it the folgers incest commercial

[robust urchin]

This is real music

[proper roost]

I get that vibe from you.

[waxen frigate]

I’ll dm you

[jagged gust]

https://tenor.com/view/eazy-e-crossroads-bone-thugs-and-harmony-rapper-music-video-gif-15733469

[robust urchin]

So was it the Folgers incest commercial

[proper roost]

Its pretty good actually

Definitely posting this to the unhinged discord

[robust urchin]

Post it here or no balls

[waxen frigate]

I will when the time is right

[lusty grotto]

Post it you pansy

I really hate not being able to say the p word

[proper roost]

the time has to be right

[jagged gust]

pagina

[lusty grotto]

Peaver

[robust urchin]

Funhole

[jagged gust]

This hole is a place of business, sir.

[lusty grotto]

But also... Fun

[robust urchin]

Everything is fun if you just HUAK TUAH ON THAT THANG

[wooden widget]

Can anyone edit the bunny rave gif to include SS with 3 charges on one hand and TB with 2 charges in the second hand.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991444463077556254/1084662758747934860/IMG_3926.gif

[jagged gust]

oh my

[wooden widget]

Thanks in advance

[jagged gust]

That's adorable

[waxen frigate]

Hawk the herald angels sang
Glory tuah that newborn thang

[robust urchin]

[lusty grotto]

[proper roost]

me and nish (2007 colorized)

[jagged gust]

That's like, the one place you dont hit a person

[robust urchin]

I can tell this man plays warrior if he uses his own hand to bite down onto

What a 1 braincell idea

[jagged gust]

dude's down to zero after that

[robust urchin]

Reminds me of that video where some BRI'ISH lads just beat each other on the back with garden chairs

https://youtu.be/R9oZaP-my5E?si=voQGIMlCHLHztKcB

[rigid hull]

how hard is m0

[jagged pier]

wont be hard at all

[rigid hull]

i see

[jagged pier]

might just have to reduce pull size a little bit

[waxen frigate]

Or tell healer to cope

[jagged pier]

yer tru

[strong forum]

theres suspicion that dungeons arent s1 difficulty yet

as in

heroics arent what heroics will be after reset

[jagged pier]

[mellow quartz]

cant you just check beta vs retails for damage figures?

[strong forum]

beta isnt playable

[mellow quartz]

was yesterday

down today?

[strong forum]

wasnt playable all launch

[mellow quartz]

wdym

I was on beta yesterday

[strong forum]

thats new then

[mellow quartz]

no

[strong forum]

yes

[mellow quartz]

Dorki and Yoda has been doing beta keys for days

just look at their vods

I am on beta now, works just fine

[strong forum]

tettles has the same issue

[mellow quartz]

just your client is messed up

[proper roost]

They shot Nome

fucked up

[mellow quartz]

I have had the error he had above before

[proper roost]

he tricked your ass into logging in

Get owned

[mellow quartz]

just need to rescan it

[proper roost]

5-D chess.

[mellow quartz]

was already on

[proper roost]

ok nerd ass

[strong forum]

NERD

imagine playing fucking beta

during launch

[mellow quartz]

nothing to do on live until tomorrow

[strong forum]

neither is there anything to do on beta

[mellow quartz]

beta vs live damage from first caster in normal Dawnbreaker

[jagged pier]

might have not tuned up beta

[robust urchin]

Oh yeah? Post your 100 delves cheevo then

[mellow quartz]

as I said, nothing to do

[jagged pier]

oh yer post every class at 80

[tribal wharf]

more so left tree

but illegal bdk

infact, i know there is illlegal talents on there mulitples

[proper roost]

yogi I need to know what you eat on a day to day basis

[hoary pivot]

is plate specialization still a thing?

or is it gone?

cannot find it in my spellbook

[tribal wharf]

cant, too busy lvl bdk

[mighty valley]

removed in like... legion

[jagged pier]

changed to this tho

so u do loose strength for not wearing plate

[hoary pivot]

ah there it is

so it kinda still exists

[jagged pier]

ye

[hoary pivot]

just noticed i had leather wrists all this time

[jagged pier]

[proper roost]

yeah i have almost run into that before because of the warbound loot from the chests

[robust urchin]

Ohio rizz bro

[proper roost]

My eyes saw ilvl upgrade and not the armor type for a sec

before i looked it over

luckily, I did look it over with my functional eyeballs

not to brag or anything..

[mighty valley]

it's funny they have a "do you want to equip this? it's not your armor type" message but it only seems to show up when i equip a shield

[hoary pivot]

yeeep

[tribal wharf]

OH

iknow why i was thinking faster mining now

when i was thinking about dwarf

[proper roost]

ya, thing is i just started ignoring this message autopilot and I can see how someone equips something wrong cuz of it

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if its more efficient to be a HMT for faster mining or earthen for more ore per node

[proper roost]

💀

this post for all the people coming in whinging about secondaries

and haven't done a single bit of research on s1 keys

[dusky canopy]

Can I do a +21 as Prot with 6% vers?

[tribal wharf]

well ya cuz for serious raiders its like this

"you remember that boss 5 from raid whatever???" and then the other guy is like "no is that one that does ???" and then other guy is ya

and then oh ya, and then kill boss

[waxen frigate]

Yogi is in liquid he knows what’s up

[mighty valley]

yeah it's basically like that

[waxen frigate]

You can also honestly jsut yolo everything up until last 2 on heroic usually

I just kinda skim videos

And then once we’re in mythic actually read shit

[proper roost]

ok honestly

yogi is so real for saying that lmao

[dusky canopy]

Ayyyee yogi got drafted to liquid

Let’s gooo

[proper roost]

everyone who explains bossfights in wow always just

explains them using other bosses

absolutely hilarious

[dawn geode]

can someone explain why we take into the fray for raid mountain thane? i was under the impression we dont have enough haste for it yet

[dusky canopy]

In raid you only actively tank 50% of the time

So you don’t need the extra block uptime

Making into the fray more dps overall

[dawn geode]

Ty!

[tribal wharf]

if there is a giant lit candle beside lit dynamite

why dont it blow up

[violet ginkgo]

the dynamite is protected by the wax, maybe?

[tribal wharf]

seems like disaster waiting to happen, workmans comp written all over it

[proper roost]

yogi you literally fight a kobold named the candle king and he is the candle king because there's a candle melted onto his head

[violet ginkgo]

I think this escorting cart through darkness and city of thread's seeking spy is the annoying part of dungeons so far.

[lusty grotto]

This happens in xiv as well

[worn stump]

so we just are alway thane lads? never colossal boys?

[tribal wharf]

fire + explosive = explosion last i checked

[violet ginkgo]

If you want to colossus just go for it? Have to play better on rage management though.

[tribal wharf]

escorting the cart isnt hard

[graceful kite]

I read dungeon journal for last bosses

The tldr page

[tribal wharf]

cuz all u have to do do is have someone that knows how its done and have them play spec with mobility

[lusty grotto]

Yes and also not fall down the hole like a noob

[tribal wharf]

i have never done that

[graceful kite]

There was a website called something like Sunny's art of war and it told you on how many stacks you swap

[lusty grotto]

Me neither

[graceful kite]

was enough for CE tanking

[tribal wharf]

and i leveled a warrior and paladin through dungones

thats good to know it can happen and now it will cuz you told me this thing exists

[south zealot]

yeah bc raid tanking is BY FAR the easiest thing in all of m+/pvp/raid in modern wow

[graceful kite]

I actually kind of liked wrath tanking on classic

You feel the damage

still 0 mechanics

[waxen frigate]

RIP tanknotes

[south zealot]

you still feel the damage on some bosses for sure

bless forgotten experiments

[waxen frigate]

Forgotten experiments on warrior

[jagged pier]

that was fine

just use AA slows

[waxen frigate]

Ya tell that to the rat fucks who play warlock

[south zealot]

LMFAO

[jagged pier]

we had rogue dk and lock use em cause they stack

[waxen frigate]

My warlock GM at the time explicitly said “I’ve seen logs without it so I’m not gonna use it”

[jagged pier]

unluck

just have a GM that isnt an idiot i guess

[waxen frigate]

Guild exploded a month later so

[jagged pier]

F

[lusty grotto]

[south zealot]

guy should be ingamed

what a freak

[jagged pier]

our dk complained he did it anyway

[waxen frigate]

I mean I could go into the gaslighting players, slandering guildies after kicking them for personal reasons, and covering up sexual harassment by his friends

[jagged pier]

what the fuck is wrong with guilds man

[lusty grotto]

Oof

[jagged pier]

its sexual harassement

[waxen frigate]

My guild now is cool

[jagged pier]

always

fucking always

can ppl be normal

[waxen frigate]

Mostly older dudes from blue states who are mature enough to be normal and have good beliefs

[plush tendon]

tbf, no one who plays in a semi-serious wow guild is normal

[jagged pier]

i mean thats still not an excuse they know its wrong

or should

no matter how unadjusted they are

[south zealot]

im normal :)

[waxen frigate]

Yeah but like be normal in funny ways

[proud dock]

wat a good site to use to look for raid guilds?

[waxen frigate]

Like our Evoker who gets into fights on the forums about meaningless shit

Or me whonshitposts

[waxen frigate]

NA or EU

[plush tendon]

and sexual harassment is a issue in all facets of life; the only benefit of encountering it on WoW is you can mute, /gquit, leave discord and be done with it

[proud dock]

NA

[waxen frigate]

https://discord.gg/recruitment-community-na-oc-246097056958119944

There you go

[proud dock]

🙏🏾

[waxen frigate]

Np, good luck

[lusty grotto]

My friends guild has a guy that is obsessed with a specific vtuber, he also goes to that specific vtuber-con to "meet" said vtuber and posts pictures of all his shit

[jagged pier]

personally i would just go to wowprogrss and io

and find guilds that way

[waxen frigate]

I mean sure but also idk maybe just make a safe space for people to have fun in a videogame

[lusty grotto]

My friend couldn't believe that shit

[waxen frigate]

You’re EU

The discord is the big way in NA

[jagged pier]

im sure theres a community for us as well

[waxen frigate]

There is but it’s like 1/4 the size

[jagged pier]

[waxen frigate]

And wowprog for example is basically dead in NA, nobody uses that shit

It’s discord>wcl/io

Then the reeeeal obscure shit like guildsofwow

[warm plinth]

Talking about these?

[molten gorge]

Obligatory NA LUL

[south zealot]

na clears

echo in the gutter

liquid id top 2

god bless

[violet ginkgo]

Yes Ghash

[waxen frigate]

Ye

The EU one is way smaller and wowprog is still popular there afaik

[lusty grotto]

I feel like my vtuber guy message flew under the radar, I hope that shit ain't normal

[waxen frigate]

Vtuber fans are all freaks

[violet ginkgo]

Question is why NA prefer discord while EU prefer wowprog

[waxen frigate]

Just cultural differences and what became popular

NA is a younger scene than EU at the higher end afaik

[south zealot]

yeah bc for eu u gotta get the government checks to play

[mint imp]

yo, is there WA for spell reflect for S1 already?

[south zealot]

need to work a few heras

years

[lusty grotto]

I just look in r.io and wcl

[waxen frigate]

I’ve found all of my guilds since SL via the discord or word of mouth

[lusty grotto]

As NA

[plush tendon]

my roommates friend got a cease and desist letter from his GM in Wrath Classic

was kind of funny

[waxen frigate]

I’ve applied to some via WCL’s newer feature but didn’t join them

Current guild found me via my post in the discord

Even though we as a guild don’t actively recruit there

[lusty grotto]

Sexual harassment?

[south zealot]

i joined my guild from wcl but that was an extreme outlier lol

[plush tendon]

It was for something really stupid

[waxen frigate]

You’re also at a much higher rank than most people right

[molten gorge]

Discord feels like an incredibly inefficient way to find a guild, which is very on brand for NA ig

[waxen frigate]

It’s actually really well organized

[plush tendon]

naw, disc is awesome

[waxen frigate]

And the mods take good care to keep it clean and efficient

[molten gorge]

🎣

[south zealot]

i was world 1600 and then applied to imperative bc fuck it and it worked

bless riggnaros

[waxen frigate]

Chad

Riggnaros x Blason new guild when man

I need it

[south zealot]

my god

unbelievable situation

[waxen frigate]

I’m happy in my current guild 🙂 it’s nice

I’ve carved out my place in the culture

Which is being the token cringe zoomer tank

[lusty grotto]

I'm also happy in my current guild, but we'll see how it goes with actual pressure

[waxen frigate]

I’m interested to see how the newer people do in prog

[south zealot]

theres a 2nd zoomer in the guild now

it doesnt feel the same

[waxen frigate]

We had more recruitment going into this tier than they had since BfA

Since I think 10 or 11 of the 20 people on the mythic nzoth kill are still in this guild on roster

And another 2 that are bench/semi retired

@south zealot what da hell happening over in fury lmao

[dusky canopy]

Ayye what a climb bro!

[waxen frigate]

Ngl idk if I’d wish playing in a Rigg guild upon my worst enemy

[dusky canopy]

I went from a 2-3 Mythic boss guild to a CE guild in the same season

That’s about all I can say

[waxen frigate]

I went from world 800 to trialing in world 100

[dusky canopy]

Think we finished Fyrakk the following season at like world 982 iirc

[waxen frigate]

Didn’t work out tho but I think that was for the best

[dusky canopy]

That’s what my warlock buddy did

[jagged pier]

nearly world last on fyrak

[dusky canopy]

He was progging with us on fyrakk and apparently a HoF guild in game mail requested him to trial so he trialed and got fyrak kill the same night while we were still progging

[waxen frigate]

Lmao

Fucking yoinked

[south zealot]

smf

[south zealot]

wasnt bad at all to me

[proper roost]

Yes.

[proper roost]

Choco is like 18 he doesn't know better yet.

[graceful kite]

you're playing in some weird guilds

[waxen frigate]

You’d be surprised

[graceful kite]

wow was a rare game that always had women not hiding they're women and everyone's chill

atleast I thought so

[jagged pier]

no not im my guilds but recently all the wow drama has been that in high end guilds

and pretty much every other time as well

its been something like that

[waxen frigate]

It is and it also isn’t

For every good space I’d say there’s a couple of bad spaces

[graceful kite]

I skimmed over zaelia stuff and it wasn't sexual afaik

[tribal wharf]

no comment for me

[proper roost]

oh buddy

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

[south zealot]

pushin 20 buhd

bout to be a boomer

[waxen frigate]

It’s so over for you

[lusty grotto]

[proper roost]

his fingers are getting stiffer by the moment

early onset carpal tunnel

[graceful kite]

hmm?

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-boys-and-girls-peetie-south-park-hello-everybody-ladies-and-gentlemen-gif-21544002

people like this are why were made to watch those trainings every single year

"it wasnt sexual afaik"

[graceful kite]

I mean it wasn't in a twitlonger

[lusty grotto]

thats wild

[proper roost]

that's ok man the less you know about the situation the better

[graceful kite]

I might have skipped over it but there were 2 paragraphs about screaming and grabbing her arm

[proper roost]

wow players are cringe all u need to know

[graceful kite]

I like wow players

Don't like creeps and other types of degenerates

[lusty grotto]

i feel like this is a very involved troll

so ima peace out

[graceful kite]

Did I read some other twitlonger or something

[proper roost]

nah just no one cares to debate this with you

have fun

@waxen frigate I copy pasted your frostbolt post and it has three +2s

already

stolen valor nerd

[waxen frigate]

Where

[proper roost]

friend's discord

[waxen frigate]

Also wdym +2s

[proper roost]

🫣

wtf... i thought you were egg viewer

can't believe you've been faking

[waxen frigate]

Wtf are you saying

[proper roost]

man

are you telling me you organically learned about costco guys and aew

that's crazy dude...

[lusty grotto]

nish just has meme god powers

[jaunty jacinth]

Do we have any specific M+ dungeons where we'll opt out of Spell block?

[lusty grotto]

have you checked out sense's list

in #protection-faq

[waxen frigate]

Dude have you seen my TikTok fyp

[jaunty jacinth]

Oh yea that'll help

[waxen frigate]

Also I do know NL i just don’t actively watch him (or any streamers for that matter)

[proper roost]

ok but you gotta check out his vod channel

fire

also perfectly aimed at 30-40 year old internet nerds ngl

he got the demographic on lock

[waxen frigate]

I’m 25

I like the serial killer

[proper roost]

yeah sorry that literally does not narrow it down

[lusty grotto]

41-60 lockdown belongs to Asmongold

61-100+ untapped market

[quick elk]

i know guides advise lining embellishments, but could some explain why the darkmoon sigils are bad? Ofcourse tuning may change things., and i am waiting before crafting anything.

[lusty grotto]

sims

[tender cove]

what was the heroic trinket that would be better than all of s1 trinkets?

[quick elk]

oh, just sim bad for dps. ok will that explains it. thanks 🙂

[lusty grotto]

that and theres no embelish that provides any substantial defensive gain

its all very minimal

so there's that

[mighty valley]

why do darkmoon decks/sigils take up such a big chunk of inscription when they seem intentionally designed to be pretty weak

pls mr blizzard stop this foolishness

[lusty grotto]

that section is literally last for me on every inscription

scribe* or whatever

forever grey until i get everything else

[proper roost]

i wish this was true but it's actually jsut a fuckton of teenagers watching that guy

incel recruiting is crazy

[lusty grotto]

[waxen frigate]

Fake fan

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-stare-serious-gif-16006707

[proper roost]

how do you watch jerma but not know about +2

it's literally a bit from jerma's stream

[waxen frigate]

I don’t watch streams I watch clips and occasional edited vods

[proper roost]

NL is jerma for old people

[lusty grotto]

is this the mount thing

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

ok thats it

bdk is my new mount farmer

[dusky canopy]

I gotta collect 1500 of those spider items to get the one mount I think

I have the quest in my log but cba to farm it

[lusty grotto]

yeah i got the quest thing

[dusky canopy]

It’ll happen eventually

[lusty grotto]

i aint farming it lmao

[dusky canopy]

You can farm follower dungeon arakara and you get like a 100 per run leaving after the first boss or even before it probably

But literally to lazy

[lusty grotto]

fuck that

like you said, ill get it eventually

[dusky canopy]

I’m going to have to farm arakara for the sac so I’ll just passively get it then

[proper roost]

Actually fuck you

Wtf

[lusty grotto]

dont worry im not gonna get loot for 5 months

[dusky canopy]

Is the vial from the rare supposed to not be 100% chance?

[lusty grotto]

kinda seems like it?

im not sure

[dusky canopy]

I got it on the first kill and I didn’t even camp it out I was questing through the zone and noticed him flying around so I followed him to his landing spot

[lusty grotto]

yeah im just herbing

[dusky canopy]

All of a sudden like 200 people showed up to kill it

I was like oh shit this must be the mount thing

[lusty grotto]

i noticed it and it looks like the mount and saw like 6 idiots following it so

i became an idiot too

[limpid plaza]

Hey guys, what are we using our sprak on?

[lusty grotto]

we're using it on

[dusky canopy]

I’d craft a neck with the worst simming embellishment

[proper roost]

sprak

spraken ze deutsch

[lusty grotto]

Ich spreche keine deutsch

[proper roost]

Yeah sorry no hablo ingles.

🙂

[lusty grotto]

[mellow quartz]

As someone who doesn’t mythic raid I am just gonna wait a week and check the first vault after m+ is open and then full send on a shield if I don’t get one there.

[proper flicker]

if I farm the ara kara trinket on follower dungeon in normal mode, I can't get the ilvl as high as one I farm in heroic right?

[waxen frigate]

Correct

[mellow quartz]

Why are you farming a trinket right now?

Will get replaced in a few days anyway

[proper flicker]

whatll it get replaced by? i thought some trinkets from these raid dungeons can be better than s1 raid gear?

[mellow quartz]

Higher ilvl from the dungeons

M0 tomorrow is 593 baseline and can be upgraded

[lusty grotto]

thats not how it works in retail wow

[mellow quartz]

You can get 603 from lvl 8 delves

[blazing river]

Minmax your brann

[plush tendon]

screw Brann

Im doing Delves with the bois

[lusty grotto]

or dont

[plush tendon]

who needs him

[novel comet]

I like that he sometimes tossed a tinderbox

[proper flicker]

ahhh okay thanks I didn't know most of that !

can you farm each mythic dungeon only once per day?

[plush tendon]

could he toss that tinderbox into my inventory?

I could use the gold

[plush tendon]

yea: M0 is daily lockout

[novel comet]

That’s what I read on Reddit…but hasn’t happened to me yet

[mellow quartz]

The trinket is good but it’s not ‘omg can’t play without’ good

[novel comet]

He tossed me some mycobloom last night 😂

Cheapskate

[lavish solstice]

There is a plater or WA that shows the reflect/blockable spells?

[novel comet]

There’s a WA

Sec

[mellow quartz]

Reflect yes, not blockable afaik

[lusty grotto]

i wish i could ban that WA from being posted

[proper flicker]

and just to confirm but can I run the same m0 on 2 different characters or is it an account wide lockout?

[mellow quartz]

Tbh the WA is fine. No one says you should follow it and sometimes it’s nice to see a cast is on you if you are paying attention to another pack or setting up some pull.

[lusty grotto]

for the crimes of "it made idiots reflect the knock on primal tsunami, instead of the actual spell that did damage"

[novel comet]

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9

[lusty grotto]

but i guess we need ways of telling us that others are using it 😉

[mellow quartz]

All on people to know what the highest prio is themselves

[tribal wharf]

i've turned off weak auras it gives me errors

[dusky canopy]

Who needs the WA to track spell reflect when you panic spell reflect on cooldown

[lavish solstice]

so is it bad to use this WA?

[tribal wharf]

so, i cant be bothered atm

[lusty grotto]

true brew

[mellow quartz]

That’s the life, SR on CD

[novel comet]

That’s what I’m wondering now. Can never tell with this community if it’s sarcasm or not

[lusty grotto]

no it just gets asked a lot and we dont write it

i dont personally care, nor use it

[dusky canopy]

Like a big pull with 8-10 mobs!?
Yeah just spell reflect it’s bound to be good

[mighty valley]

following the WA will be better than doing no research and never pressing SR, but it's not gonna be as good as learning what the high-value reflect spells are

[plush tendon]

character specific

[mellow quartz]

If you blindly follow a WA like that you might reflect a non important bolt cast and not have it for a super important other cast.

[lavish solstice]

i'm kinda newbie, not reflected a single spell until now 😭

[mellow quartz]

That is why people don’t like it

[lavish solstice]

i will keep on mind to not depend too much on it

[mighty valley]

yeah there's a risk that your brain just gets used to "thing lit up? press SR"

[mellow quartz]

You will know what is important quickly when it hurts you

[pastel sleet]

Do we know estimated launch time tomorrow?

[dusky canopy]

The best part about SR is the magic DR

Occasionally reflecting for big dam is also cool

[lusty grotto]

theres no such thing as an accountwide lockout on instances

[mighty valley]

the launcher says 11am pst so yknow. probably an hour or two after that

[mellow quartz]

Also most of the times you wanna only SR last second when most people’s kicks are on CD. Cause your party members will kick your reflects!

[mighty valley]

yelling at your friends not to kick has a roughly 50% success rate

[neon elk]

So do we know how hard those delves 8 are gona be ? Totaly imposible in 585 hc gear or doable with stugles ? Also any qeird scalings with parties, or for tanks heals etc ?

[mellow quartz]

Look on YouTube

[lusty grotto]

they are easier with groups

[mellow quartz]

Several people have done videos on lvl 8 delves on beta

Scaled to 600 ilvl though but should be fine solo as a tank

Solo dps players will have the biggest issues it seems

[neon elk]

There isnt any time limit right? Just deaths

[mellow quartz]

5 deaths

Make sure to NOT level your delves up in the bountiful delves tomorrow as you only have 4 a day

[neon elk]

Yeye, gota try if i can even beat 8 first before going into bounty

[molten gorge]

Anti-WeakAura gang is basically the same as CLI Only enjoyers in programming type fields (I am one of them); it's largely just snobbery

You CAN use Github through a GUI but if you do, I'm going to call you a noob and hate on you

[lusty grotto]

huh

[molten gorge]

Same way you CAN use a WeakAura, but don't expect any respect for doing it

[novel comet]

Is there a specific loot table for each delve? Or do they all share the same loot table?

[lusty grotto]

youre swinging way too wide, my dude

[mellow quartz]

Think random loot

[lusty grotto]

who said weakauras are bad

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

maybe brew

[molten gorge]

hehe

[hardy snow]

not great, not bad

[mellow quartz]

And in 3 days your haste will be all ruined by Vers/mastery gear

[neon elk]

At what point is it good idea to swap into the fray?

[mellow quartz]

Cause you had shit drops

[lofty warren]

is it required to play moon bear or can we not get auto devlined as pwar?

[lusty grotto]

never this season on M+, always on ST/Raids

[hardy snow]

yes it will

[oblique quarry]

do we have any solid youtube content creaters for prot?

[neon elk]

For real? Why? Or point me to answer id there is pined or something, didnt cath anything on this .. is it because we cant reach that haste yet?

[lusty grotto]

correct

[mellow quartz]

You need a lot of haste

Like a LOT

[molten gorge]

I'd heard around 15-20k I think somewhere

[mellow quartz]

Maybe end of season

[dusky canopy]

[neon elk]

Same, dont quote me but iirc it was dorki , not sure if he said 15-20 or 20-25

[mellow quartz]

Dorki is not a math guy

So he just says what he hears

[lofty warren]

https://youtu.be/Jr0TN9fL_R0?si=CSV4hau_95W2iA3k

[neon elk]

Thats why im asking here

[molten gorge]

he heard it from a chinese guy (trust me bro)

[lusty grotto]

when we have a specific number Nome will post it

but you shouldnt worry about it at all this season

[lofty warren]

Dorki video and wowhead are not a perfect 1:1 some is only with dorki and some only with wowhead

[dusky canopy]

6900 haste bis

[mellow quartz]

It’s very simple. When you have enough you can spec ITF and hit a dummy for 10min and SB will never drop

But you don’t need 100% uptime but up there

[lofty warren]

Dorki says which talents you can move around

[lusty grotto]

dorki is dorki

skyhold is skyhold

[hardy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/now-old-man-the-future-is-now-old-man-gif-9677657

[lusty grotto]

if you want to talk dorki, id suggest his discord

[molten gorge]

theorycrafters and their territory, a tale as old as time

[lofty warren]

No cap is it even worth doing m0s or are delving just better even without key?

[lusty grotto]

worth what

[lofty warren]

Which should be done for most gear next week?

[lusty grotto]

raid

🙂

[neon elk]

Is there even loot without key? Ive droped like 2 items in delves so far and ive did quite some of them

[lofty warren]

Outside raid

[lusty grotto]

delve loot is tied to vault

the chest shit is very RNG

you do them for vault slots

hero level vault slots

m0 is doable once a day, but caps out in the vault

[lofty warren]

But can't you get better ilvl from delves compared to m0?

[proper flicker]

ideally would you want weapons or trinkets from t8 delves?

[lusty grotto]

do you want hero gear? then do tier 8 bountifuls and raid

[novel comet]

Could’ve sworn people were crying about druids being horrible. How the turn tables…

[dusky canopy]

Dps druid*

Is shit

[lusty grotto]

druids are still horrible

[dusky canopy]

Feral is Ight

[lusty grotto]

idk what youre on about

forcing me to post my tier list again

[dusky canopy]

[forest spruce]

Who looks better in a dps out put Pwarr or Druid

[mellow quartz]

Druid

[waxen frigate]

Druid but warrior is easier to play

In terms of doing max Dps

[mellow quartz]

Easier than Druid?

Incarn and press 1 button

[lofty warren]

Druid ez

[lusty grotto]

dotc has to shift and kitty dps to be top

[waxen frigate]

The two Druid builds are different difficulties from what I’ve heard

But I don’t play bear

[forest spruce]

I’ve always played a healer for the last 10 years or so so I’m going to try tanking for the first time this season

[lusty grotto]

but is top by a mile doing so

[waxen frigate]

I’ve heard EC (lower dmg) is easy but dotc (higher dmg) is hard

[mellow quartz]

Well you don’t catweave in keys

Raid is whatever

[novel comet]

Druid players are always awkward

[lusty grotto]

he didnt specify which content

he just asked who looks better

[green bronze]

does anyone else feel like luxthos WAs are kinda clunky, like they are lagging behind your button presses?

[lusty grotto]

in raid st, highest throughput are DotC and Colossus for each, but DotC requires kitty dps shifting and probably some off-tanking, as well as main tank shifts with their armor buffs

[mellow quartz]

Don’t use them so no idea

Find something you like and change it to fit you

[proper roost]

Yeah luxthos and most package weakauras are like spyware levels of dogshit

[waxen frigate]

Luxthos weakauras are generally bloated yeah

[neon elk]

Mine works well but ive deleted/changed a lot of stuff

[lofty warren]

Wonder how much more dps colloses + all the time in battle stance is vs thunderclapping in Def stance

[lusty grotto]

i use luxthos for arms/fury and paladin, i have no issues

[proper roost]

It doesn't matter how good your computer is, bloated weakauras are limited by the program (WoW) itself

i wouldn't even recommend deleting half of the WA packages because updating them requires updating ALL of them again

[green bronze]

which WA package do you guys use?

[proper roost]

I would just recommend not using a package

👍

[waxen frigate]

I would recommend doing this if you aren’t going to make your own

[waxen frigate]

Download a bunch, see what parts you like, rip them apart and put them together how you prefer and/or remake those bits yourself

[lusty grotto]

i use luxthos for arms/fury and paladin, i have no issues
nome for prot warrior
naowh for the rest

[mellow quartz]

I use a 4 year old version of Afenar of which I have modified every icon lol

[green bronze]

do i just delete everything that does not apply to prot?

[waxen frigate]

I make my own packs for every spec

[waxen frigate]

You can delete a lot of the prot stuff as well I’m sure

Luxthos weakauras and similar are often referred to as “kitchen sink”

Because they just include everything and you don’t need 90% of it

[neon elk]

Like once u are in prot it will show you only stuff applied to prot , but i personaly dont use half of his "utilities" stuff etc

[strong forum]

You can since you get bear benefits for 6 seconds while shifting into cat allowing you to weave quite comfortably

[mellow quartz]

Most of those WA’s don’t load 90% though

[waxen frigate]

They’re still loaded they just aren’t displaying

[neon elk]

Also the buffs and random procs i believe ? I cant keep tracking them anyway unless i watch them and then it screws my gameplay

[lofty warren]

Don't like how luxthos makes opacity on lower row so small

[waxen frigate]

Everything prot related is loaded when you’re in prot

[lofty warren]

And it lags a bit for me

[mellow quartz]

Just set them to not load under load conditions

[waxen frigate]

So we’re modifying them at that point which is already what we’re recommending

Out of the box though (how most users interact with them) they are overbloated

Nothing is as bad as the liquid packs though lmao

[lofty warren]

If you have better pls link

[waxen frigate]

Personally on my warrior currently the only things I track via weakauras are rage, shield block, and outburst

Probably should add spear to mine though

[neon elk]

Have you tried updating it ? Or replacing it with newest ? It helped me a lot ..

[strong forum]

No wonder Nish doesn't do dmg

[lofty warren]

Pyscho

[strong forum]

[proper roost]

Stare

[waxen frigate]

Did over 1mil in a dungeon yesterday 😠

What else you want me to track

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/ethplode-matrix-matrix-ethplode-bomb-ethplo-gif-14837927

How do he know if he can shield slam? He feels it

[waxen frigate]

It’s on my bars not my weakauras

And I can see it in peripheral vision

[proper roost]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-pogfish-fish-openmouth-gif-20357594

nish's peripheral vision

[mellow quartz]

this is mine

[green bronze]

im so used to luxthos weakaura that i forget where buttons on my action bars are, but i hate that i press a button and its cd starts like half a second later

[mellow quartz]

@strong forum I said I didn't track revenge, I lied

[waxen frigate]

🤢

Brother what the fuck

[dusky canopy]

Front and center

[green bronze]

do you mind sharing it?

[dusky canopy]

[lofty warren]

Why is it all around

[dusky canopy]

I cannot understand how some enjoy that big box look

It drives me insane

Tbf it is just preference

[mellow quartz]

https://justpaste.it/cz3an

[lusty grotto]

there is no "correct" WA to use @green bronze , there are plenty of free packages including and not limited to: afernar, nome's, luxthos, khakhan's, quazii, dorki, etc

[waxen frigate]

What could the top bar possibly be

[molten gorge]

I cannot fully articulate how much I hate that

[mellow quartz]

have my healthbar left and enemy right so looks just fine

hate having 8 buttons in 1 line, think it looks stupid

[lusty grotto]

its all preferential, look at them and choose what you think is best for you

[lofty warren]

https://wago.io/0gNvsvCeH

I like the hijack wa more than luxthos

[lusty grotto]

i suggest taking this conversation to #ui-addons-manager

[waxen frigate]

Why

[lusty grotto]

before we all start linking wagos left and right

[waxen frigate]

It’s prot specific

[lusty grotto]

your face is prot specific

😎

get fucked nish

[oak ivy]

Shieldy bois, I am confuzzled.
I crafted a 590 1h, upgraded a shield to 593, and then my fury weapons decided not to cost any crests up to 590. How do explain this & more importantly how do repeat this tomorrow

[lusty grotto]

also i should have added "x-supposed-meta-class vs prot warrior" to my bingo card, i would have won fucking big by just pepega repeating the same 2 classes every day, i swear to god

[sleek current]

Your highest equipment of that slot determines your cost.

[oak ivy]

I thought that didn't work between 1h / 2h

[lusty grotto]

you up your 2h

[proper roost]

solar lance, solar bombardment, call reinforcements, and call fenix I think

[lusty grotto]

and it discounts both 1h and shield

[sleek current]

Never known that to be a thing to be honest

[lusty grotto]

and vice versa

[lofty warren]

Which currency can only be used on adventure gear?

[proper roost]

alright nish didn't get my joke. it's joever

[lusty grotto]

nish got owned too hard by me

[oak ivy]

o7 so the plan is upgrade 2h w/ crests then 1h & shield at no crest cost?

[sleek current]

You can do either or

[lusty grotto]

up to your 2h's ilvl ye

i did this in s4 with leggo up as 1st buy and gholak as 2nd buy

[neon elk]

Question is, is there acc wide discount yet they discused or no?

[green bronze]

if you play arms or fury on the side, you can do that

[lusty grotto]

there is an accountwide discount but its not so big

[oak ivy]

I do ya

[lofty warren]

This^^

[green bronze]

i think it was always there

[lusty grotto]

yes

[oak ivy]

i think it's 25% off valorstones w/ no effect to crests, somebody correct me if im wrong

[lusty grotto]

they have been planning on doing more to it though

[green bronze]

yes, it is only for valorstones

[neon elk]

Ye but they discused crests discount also

[lusty grotto]

as per the Max interview

[bronze pewter]

for Delves... do you all run Brann as healer or as DPS?

[sleek current]

DPS

[lusty grotto]

dps

[oak ivy]

isn't he omega beans as healer anyway

[bronze pewter]

ok, I heard they're a bit difficult as a DPS class so Im planning to do the 8s as Prot

[lusty grotto]

wouldnt know, you also dont need heals in current delves so who cares

[sleek current]

Omega Beans sounds like a good thing to me but your anyway implys it's a bad thing

[lofty warren]

There was a delve where I would just run straight to last boss and finish it in 5 min. When I did that I made brann healer

[waxen frigate]

Well that’s not why I didn’t respond (my phone stopped giving me discord notifications a few months ago and idk why)

[bronze pewter]

beans always bad.

[waxen frigate]

But no I don’t get the joke

[neon elk]

Ye but this is valors only, there should be a crest discount also , but i guess they didnt di that yet

[proper roost]

https://tenor.com/view/aa-aaa-cat-hi-gif-14227049

[lusty grotto]

crest discount is planned, but not yet implemented

they said as much on Max's interview

[waxen frigate]

Not sure what’s worse your jokes or your mogs

But I guess your mogs are jokes

[proper roost]

it's a great joke you're just a little zoomer

[neon elk]

Gota play only one char anyway, just wanted to know if there is any early cheesy way to do

[lofty warren]

Are you branns all lvl 15?

I got bored at level 12 and figure that's good enud

Enough

[dusky canopy]

No lmao

Ain’t no way I’m exp farming for bran

[bronze pewter]

I did it. it wasnt THAT abd

[waxen frigate]

Mines like 14

[sleek current]

Personally, didn't even know he had levels until a guildie mentioned it

[neon elk]

If u did 1 delv daily for bonus, it was pretty chill

[lusty grotto]

[proper roost]

i'm going to do it tonight with nimchip

👍

[lusty grotto]

fuck no

[proper roost]

fuck yes

[lusty grotto]

[waxen frigate]

Doing your mom tonight with nimchip but keeping our socks on

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

Socks on bis

Wife always laughs

[neon elk]

Socks on girl are bis, on guy, not so much ..

[waxen frigate]

No me and nimchip need them to stay on for reasons

[neon elk]

But hey, to each their own 😉

[dusky canopy]

Bros tryna have cold feet

Smh my head

[neon elk]

Dude im always warm, cant imagine having socks indoors unless its on visit

At my own place i throw them away as soon as i get off my shoes

[waxen frigate]

Bro is just walking the dogs 24/7

[neon elk]

What? Im not understanding that if there is any hidden meaning

[waxen frigate]

You sound like your birth year starts with 198

[lusty grotto]

bot understanding 🤔

did we just find an AI

[waxen frigate]

011101010000101000 010000010111010000 000101000100?

[neon elk]

Sorry for my fat fingers

[lusty grotto]

bruh

[neon elk]

Saddly it starts 199, its just im always warm and in summer its pain in ass

[lusty grotto]

did i find Yogi's DK?

[neon elk]

Is that a Pu trying to cosplay DK?

[lusty grotto]

could be, could be

[tribal wharf]

dk

bdk for me is boiling blood and bonk

boiling blood everything

oh and heart strike

[waxen frigate]

Are all your dudes color coded Tauren

[neon elk]

Wth is freeshower

[strong forum]

healing rain

freeshower

[waxen frigate]

You ever been on moon guard?

[neon elk]

Nah

[waxen frigate]

So there’s this thing about female Draenei on moon guard

And let’s just say

Usually the showers involve some gold—but they’re still free

[neon elk]

Interesting

Perhaps i should pay them a visit

[molten flicker]

Wouldn’t mind one of those rn

[proper roost]

nish do you want to read something insanely unhinged

[graceful kite]

Using rp addon and reading random draenei stories is a surreal experience

[white mauve]

[warm plinth]

RIP James Earl Jones

[proper roost]

93 is a good time to go

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[nova mason]

I should macro shield bash to both ignore pain and shield block, right?
(As well as keeping the shield keybind itself)

[pastel sleet]

*assuming you are talking about shield slam, i dont. But ive heard about folks using it on IP

[mighty valley]

you can try both, the only mild downside is sometimes it might make you shield slam when you're trying to do an offensive CD

[lusty grotto]

rest in piece sweet prince

[mighty valley]

maybe the SS macros are less desirable in thane where you're more often gonna want to use outburst on tb? haven't really thought about that

[jovial falcon]

kiram to kone aliraz

[split bough]

does colosus is better then thane in single target?

[jagged gust]

yes

[pallid quiver]

last i heard they're roughly the same in ST

[west jetty]

Hey does anyone have any opinion on the other alliance races other than Dwarf, im looking at race swapping but im not sure to what

[pallid quiver]

Colossus pulls ahead in AOE damage due to revenge

[pallid quiver]

If you're looking for optimization, the only thing other than Dorf is NE or a dorf on fire

Other than that, racial benefits are so minor as to be safe to ignore entirely

[edgy bone]

Anyone know a good bulwark of azzinoth transmog set?

[jagged gust]

i wish

most people who like it just slap that car door on to every mog they have

I bet it goes well with the recoloured T2 set

[dusky canopy]

I’d probably just equip bulwark instead of trying to find something similar to it

[edgy bone]

You mean like don't bother matching it?

I ran BT three times and finally got it

[dusky canopy]

THREE

[edgy bone]

So it must not be that rare to be able to just equip it straight up and be impressive

[dusky canopy]

Took me months and months of weekly clears

[edgy bone]

Really?

[proper roost]

three times

wow..

[jagged gust]

When raiding, we had 5 glaives drop before our MT got the shield

[lusty grotto]

imagine not getting it during TBC

🧓

[edgy bone]

Been looking through the pvp sets and bought a purple one but the shield seems to be very light purple

[edgy bone]

Yeah that would've been dope, I didn't start playing prot warrior til BFA season 4

[jagged gust]

imagine playing prot at it's peak as your intro to the class

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

[proper roost]

[split bough]

ty!!

[jagged gust]

Just fyi it's like a .9% diff

So it's less of a DPS loss than choosing vulpera as a race

[pastel summit]

!!!

[edgy bone]

What transmog do you run with bulwark?

[honest hare]

question... which gem do we use for the earthen wellfed bonus and where can i change it?

[pallid quiver]

You need to munch actual jewelcraft gems to change it, though I think if you're swapping to crit chance, the ruby in the one consumable gem shop miiiight work to swap? And you'd likely want either haste or crit, so if you already have crit, I would just sit on that for the immediate moment since emerald gems kinda expensive

[honest hare]

ok thx

[pallid quiver]

Each color of gem gives a different buff. You can see what buff each gives in the tool tip, but Emerald = Haste, Ruby = Crit for the two most immediately relevant

[honest hare]

it's on crit so i guess i don't change it 🙂

maybe when i lvl up my jewlcrafter i will have an emrald left xD

[pallid quiver]

that's the spirit

[wind prawn]

Okay gamers, do i want to spend my Violent Outburst procs on TClap this expanstion. In DF you pretty much always wanted to use them on SS but now with Mountain Thane is it worth it to use it on TCLAP?

[jagged gust]

TBlast with 2+ targets

[wind prawn]

But If you don't have TBlast then SS is better still?

[jagged gust]

yep

[wind prawn]

makes sense, thanks

[jagged gust]

unless it's an absurd target count

[eager sable]

any guilds need a tank?

[pallid quiver]

And even if it's an absurd target count, it's only better for damage then; if you're getting murdered, you still send on SS because it gives more rage

[stone wing]

#promotion

[pallid quiver]

That's a recruitment channel kinda take, and definitely not a channel where a bunch of other tanks are hanging out at take

[eager sable]

great take

[jagged gust]

I took a poll in my guild and had 19 people willing to cover our off tank this season

I don't even have a solid 19 DPS in my guild

[eager sable]

haha

[orchid laurel]

hey guys probs a silly question but if im maining prot in m+ but have to dps raids, which dps spec would be best? sharing the most similar stuff, stats, trinkets etc: sorry to ask im not that smart with this sort of thing

[pallid quiver]

Both Arms and Fury are looking to be ultimately fine as a whole, so you can play whichever you find more comfortable. Fury is generally easier than Arms, but does require two 2Hs

[lusty grotto]

arms uses the same stats as prot

[pallid quiver]

Also, congratulations, you have the more interesting role in raid

[lusty grotto]

so when it comes to gearing, arms is probably best

[edgy bone]

Crit haste?

[jagged gust]

yarp

[edgy bone]

NICE

[pallid quiver]

Though iirc they put more emphasis on the crit than the haste

[jagged gust]

fury wants mastery haste, which honestly not bad since haste is still a main focus

[lusty grotto]

yes arms is crit > haste, we're haste > crit

yeah fury is not far off

[jagged gust]

Massive Spellblock value gearing for fury/prot

[orchid laurel]

would i be losing alot of dps going fury?

[lusty grotto]

for M+ you would be top

[jagged gust]

no, you'll probably gain it in most situations in raid

[lusty grotto]

for raids youre down around 20k-ish

compared to arms

[jagged gust]

ST arms pulls ahead, but there's not many relevant ST fights this tier

[lusty grotto]

will is right

[pallid quiver]

I think there's 2 off the top of my head

[orchid laurel]

so fury is probs best then

[lusty grotto]

up to you

im perma arms for dps

[pallid quiver]

It is also easier to play Fury, as well, which sounds like it'd be more helpful for your situation

[jagged gust]

fury is really bloody passively tanky, and has like no access to haste so the GCD isn't capped like it usually is by end of xpac

I gotta emphasize passively, because arms can tank hits like no one else, but stacking IP is an absolute PITA (Or just using it in general when you're new to encounters)

[orchid laurel]

thank you all

[graceful kite]

why would you stack ip? is it free now?

[lusty grotto]

for myth prog, why wouldnt you

its not free

and it doesnt count for AM

but arms needs it to survive

at these gear levels

shouldnt be an issue outside of execute phases

as slarms

[frosty holly]

Ye, until you hit a wall due to DPS you gain such survivability

[toxic gyro]

Because dead dps does no dps

[jagged gust]

Yeah it's never free, but a good example was in S3 final boss of spider troll dungeon, fully stack IP in order to be able to survive Yazma in high keys

You only have a 1 second grace period to overlap it though, so it's cumbersome to stack to say the least

[edgy bone]

@lusty grotto I think I'm going to name my first son Himothy

[graceful kite]

are we gonna have 90 hc crest cap next week or will it sync with the ones we have now at 360?

[lusty grotto]

for gilded yes

90

for runed 180

[graceful kite]

So if I'm crafting hc level shield I get 0 hc upgrades

Guess it can wait, no hard content anyways

[lusty grotto]

heroic level shield is runed

and you will need to run heroic raid for that

[graceful kite]

Blizzard inventing new names for crest really confuses me

[lusty grotto]

gilded = aspect

runed = wyrm

[graceful kite]

that helps, thanks

[lusty grotto]

actually im pretty sure gilded wont be out tomorrow

since nothing will drop it

so 90x on sept 14

[trim siren]

Why is crit preferred over vers now? Is it purely for damage or is there more survivability benefit?

[lusty grotto]

not now

we've always preferred it

[graceful kite]

you get parry with crit, but usually it's just damage

all stats have defensive value

[lusty grotto]

BFA S4 was the only season where vers was better because of versatile corruption

the amount of vers you need to match crit is substantial, that being said both stats and master are good

both offensively and defensively

[pallid quiver]

Though vers was also almost equivalent in DF S3 due to Fervid scaling better with vers, but then they made it able to crit

[trim siren]

Thanks for explanations. 🙂

[lusty grotto]

a parry is an immune

basically

you would need an insane amount of versa to match it

[graceful kite]

Whats funnier parry or dodge

[trim siren]

I definitely see the value of parry, especially in m+ to prevent bleeds and other debuffs.

[lusty grotto]

that depends if the bleed attack is parryable

[graceful kite]

I remember in tol dagor I had to play brewmaster and tank with my back so I can then tank and dodge last boss's shot

[lusty grotto]

we just face tanked it

[graceful kite]

it hit really hard tho

[lusty grotto]

and yes parries happened

not to prot

[graceful kite]

Always could bring a dh tho

[lusty grotto]

no need with a prot