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untold hornet
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weak aura would work too tho lol

lusty grotto
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idk about a WA

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but opie does that

untold hornet
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addon i take it?

lusty grotto
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yes

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unless im misunderstanding

untold hornet
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just looking to not use 8 macros to place world markers at the cursor

robust urchin
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I'm pretty sure Opie is the dog from Garfield

lusty grotto
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thats also true

warm plinth
lusty grotto
warm plinth
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I'm not 100% sure if you can use it for world markers though?

lusty grotto
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you can

frosty holly
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you can

robust urchin
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There's gotta be plenty of add-ons for that

untold hornet
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ah okay, I have heard of that before, just never actually knew of the name. I know exactly what you are talking about! You can bind WMs to your bars with macros, so im assuming it would work the same way

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btw, there is a world marker ring baked into OPie

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incase anyone was curious while lurking my question

lusty grotto
untold hornet
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ty Nimchip!

lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
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Opie is great for so many things peepoBlush

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Mounts, hearstones, foodstuffs, gearsets - just to spin a wheel for funs

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10/10

proper roost
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rotation

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i challenge you to do your entire rotation with opie

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right now

lusty grotto
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if anyone can its Funky

violet ginkgo
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Preseason? OK well there are 2 shield you can get 1 from The Rookery and 1 from City of Thread but... The Rookery is more spammable than City of Thread, since it's shorter.

steel matrix
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Oh, I just got the one from Priory

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So now I've got a second question; I got the preseason BiS trinket (Ara-brood), but need to know what to replace. I have 2 decent trinkets: Imperfect Ascendancy Serum and Quickwick Candlestick. Both give either big boost to haste / strength

lusty grotto
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whatever sims best

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generally it doesnt matter, you will replace them

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not a hard decision

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just equip whichever

steel matrix
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Yea, but should I replace a +5000 boost to haste or +4000 boost to strength

lusty grotto
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doesnt matter

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both of those are being vendored

steel matrix
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Which would you replace

lusty grotto
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preseason gearing is just ilvl > all

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id ask the 8ball

steel matrix
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Mmm i will consult the crayons

lusty grotto
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the crayons say quickwick

steel matrix
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Time to wall

round pendant
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I feel like season 1 is going to be a giant flop for me

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not feeling anything lmao

violet ginkgo
bronze pewter
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so, whats the best spec set up for Prot Delves?

jagged gust
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the hypetrain runs out of steam

lusty grotto
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you cant please everybody

round pendant
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god if m0 was this last week

lusty grotto
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im fine with it

round pendant
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there's basically zero reason to not have had normal raid + m0 this last week

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but yakno whatevs

lusty grotto
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its fine to not feel it

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like i said

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blizz cant please everybody

round pendant
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I'm more bothered with how I ain't feeling prot warrior

lusty grotto
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any decision they make can be good for some while bad for others

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it gave me time to get my alts up and level professions so i cant complain

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thats also normal

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lol

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i main prot war, but i also dont play it by itself, or have ever

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but i'd imagine that if i did

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i'd be burnt out at some point

round pendant
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I never play alone

steel matrix
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I have 13 classes at 80

round pendant
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I play with friends who basically expect me to tank

lusty grotto
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do another tank 😉

steel matrix
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Or DK

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Both insanely fun

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Or Paladin to be immortal

lusty grotto
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druid tank...

round pendant
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I've played them all and I don't feel like doing any of them lmao

lusty grotto
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refer to this

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round pendant
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I wanna pump dps for once in my life

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but my friends will bitch and moan

steel matrix
lusty grotto
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thats also fair yam lol

steel matrix
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I usually top or 2nd overall dps

round pendant
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sure, but as a dps yakno

lusty grotto
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youre doing heroics my dude

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lmaoooo

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do you also check your dps in LFR?

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who cares what youre position in overall is on a heroic dungeon lmao

round pendant
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I'm wondering if I'm just not vibing with anything because it's just heroics rn as I'm testing out different classes

lusty grotto
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yam its fine to want to check other classes

round pendant
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frost dk was kinda fun tho

lusty grotto
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what have you tried so far

round pendant
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I like bdk but is it intended that you can't fuckin grab aggro with anything that isn't death & decay?

lusty grotto
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besides fdk

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blood boil is your friend

round pendant
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it doesn't pick up like any threat ime

lusty grotto
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it does fine for me

round pendant
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uh I've tried pwar, fdk, bdk, disc priest, bear, ret

lusty grotto
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especially blood boil + consumption

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do you prefer melee or ranged?

round pendant
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fun I'd say fdk > bear > disc > pwar > ret

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pwar is only so low cause I played it throughout all of df ig

violet ginkgo
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bear is fun? I thought someone said bear is boring, still super effective though.

round pendant
lusty grotto
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believe it or not SP is pretty fun

versed widget
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try to hit 1 mil dps in a dungeon as pwar, youll have a blast

round pendant
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I like bear, it's comfy and it's fun being a bear

lusty grotto
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MM is blasting if you want a hunter option

round pendant
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I gotta level up more chars ig and test em

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but m0 soon

lusty grotto
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as for melee, rogues can get complicated getting into in these iterations

round pendant
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yeah I logged on my level 70 rogue, checked out assa rotation

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and logged off

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I'm just hoping m0s reinvigorate me to play pwar

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if not, I'll prob just switch to fdk

lusty grotto
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do it

round pendant
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Could try SP I guess and I've always been meaning to try hunter but always get bored during levelling lmao

lusty grotto
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SP insanity management is fun for me at least

round pendant
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is survival good?

lusty grotto
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its a lot like rage management

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i havent tried it

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at least this version

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ive been meaning to

round pendant
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I'll probably get more motivated once m0/m+ starts as my friends also start being more interested in playing

dawn geode
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i'm survival main its aite

round pendant
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I really should not have bought early access

lusty grotto
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im probably gonna level my hunter as surv, but want to wait a little bit between alts

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guessing that round of alts will be mid/late s1 at best

dawn geode
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best stats are mast/crit so not a lot of haste kinda clunky feeling if you go from pwar to survival

chilly surge
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Feels go to be able to solo those rare elites without losing a single hp

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And still achieve a 500k dps X)

edgy bone
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BRUH, we really don't go bstance anymore?

ionic fern
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Sure you do.

edgy bone
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For the 3% crit?

ionic fern
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The drawback of Defensive Stance is just minimal now.

edgy bone
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I thought with the change to dstance it's just not worth it anymore

ionic fern
ionic fern
edgy bone
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Do AA crits generate double rage like arms

jagged gust
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This iteration is leagues better at least

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but yeah low haste specs feel like garbage

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SP on remix? Absolute blast. SP on live? Feel like I could make a tortilla wrap in between casts

lusty grotto
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i disagree

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idk how youve been playing SP but its not like that

jagged pier
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idk how u could tell how anything plays on remix when everything dies in 2 seconds

lusty grotto
compact topaz
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Does Prot damage feel low compared to BloodDK for those that have both?

jagged pier
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well it sims less so it should

compact topaz
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I havent really looked at tank sims

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Just a feelycraft thing

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Seems like night and day

jagged gust
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Lets you do a full rotation and really feel the power of your cloak

edgy bone
jagged gust
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bdk is really good right now

jagged pier
edgy bone
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Yeah but dps no way

jagged pier
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and our aoe sims cant be trusted

jagged pier
edgy bone
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Mountain King pumps you can feel it

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Bdk feels like poop

jagged pier
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no its feels like it does

lusty grotto
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dotc, templar, deathrbinger, colossus, aldrachi - 1 target 5 mins READ: SINGLE TARGET

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jagged pier
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so your feelycrafty

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not looking at any data

edgy bone
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Rappers Mark on bdk feels bogus as a tank

jagged pier
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feeling means nothing

jagged gust
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(Prot war isn't actually that low, but it's still at the same rank)

jagged pier
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data and numbers show the actual result

lusty grotto
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those are sims without embelishments btw

edgy bone
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Why is that sim on Colossus

lusty grotto
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and with those hero trees which yield the highest output

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because it yields the highest output

autumn blade
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in terms of DPS on a HC DJ, my Prot War is doing more DPS than my Prot Pal or BDK

lusty grotto
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on ST

jagged pier
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in both aoe and ST

jagged gust
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I think it's like 850-860k with embellish

edgy bone
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Guardian druid lol?

lusty grotto
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yes

jagged pier
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yep they are very strong

jagged gust
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highest dps

lusty grotto
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dotc guardian druid

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for ST

jagged pier
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they spend 30% of the time in cat

lusty grotto
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☝️

autumn blade
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Guardian is boring

jagged pier
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they can tank on cat for 6 seconds as well

jagged gust
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Meta is meta, it is what it is

edgy bone
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Lol

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People said Druid was gonna be best tank in dfs1

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Turned out to be trash

jagged pier
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no they didnt

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they said it was prot

edgy bone
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Yeah they did

jagged pier
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and were wrong

jagged gust
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and they were wrong

lusty grotto
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youre smoking some crack

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it was def prot

unkempt hazel
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s2 druid tho

edgy bone
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Druid got that HUGE aura buff heading into dfs1

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People said it was goated

lusty grotto
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idk what people youve been listening to

jagged pier
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odd that no one played it then

lusty grotto
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but we certainly didnt say it was

jagged pier
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as they were all play prot

edgy bone
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Guardian druid gonna be dogshit again

lusty grotto
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i mean i wish it was, but it wont

edgy bone
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Warrior BiS tank

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And I am BiS player

jagged gust
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bear/aug/mage is meta again, did someone say god comp?

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found it

lusty grotto
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why are we talking about meta

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i posted RAID SIMS

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the fuck does M+ have to do with any of this shit

jagged gust
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I like to derail things

lusty grotto
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its not you

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Ticon is also on M+ land for some reason

edgy bone
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Really bro

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Using me as your scapegoat

lusty grotto
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do you know what a scapegoat means

unkempt hazel
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draenei

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did I get it right

lusty grotto
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im not sure youre applying the definition correctly here

jagged gust
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Back to the raid sims tho, it's 853k for colon, 846k thane

edgy bone
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Yeah it's what you're doing to me right now

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Just because you're mad sime don't equate to reality

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Sims

lusty grotto
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uhhh ok

edgy bone
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That's what sims are

zinc marten
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hey champions what trinket we using?

lusty grotto
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wish there was a remindme bot here

edgy bone
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And when it comes to warrior

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We are bis tank

lusty grotto
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are you 5

edgy bone
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^ that's reality

lusty grotto
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well then, that def answered my question

edgy bone
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If you put BiS player on a prot warrior vs a guardian druid, warrior always comes out on top regardless of Sims

lusty grotto
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im aware

edgy bone
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You really disagree?

lusty grotto
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ive been maining prot warrior since vanilla

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but i dont fight against sims

edgy bone
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Sims

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More like

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Poop

elfin garden
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holy

lusty grotto
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okie

edgy bone
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Tank sims don't actually equate to damage bro

lusty grotto
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kk

edgy bone
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Trust me

lusty grotto
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understood

edgy bone
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Lol ok

proper roost
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👴

lusty grotto
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lol roger

edgy bone
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Now who's 5 if you're just going to excuse yourself from the conversation

proper roost
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post io

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👴

lusty grotto
edgy bone
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Idk I was like 3450 in season 3 when prot warriors were F tier

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#2 on illidan

unkempt hazel
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average warrior mains chat /s

lusty grotto
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what conversation, its just you talking

ionic fern
edgy bone
lusty grotto
unkempt hazel
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now kith

ionic fern
unkempt hazel
rain light
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I dont care if guardian is meta tank, feels terrible to play

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Clunky af

lusty grotto
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once again

rain light
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Miss me with that shit

lusty grotto
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those were ST sims

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as in Single Target

rain light
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Even not following sims

edgy bone
lusty grotto
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also dotc, meaning Jakey is also correct because you cat weave as dotc

rain light
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Its going to be the meta s1 tank

ionic fern
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Guardian has to be the most boring tank out there.

lusty grotto
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holy cow im getting some alavisto deja vu with this ticon guy

strong forum
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Newest Sims btw

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strong forum
rain light
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Dont really pay attention to sims

lusty grotto
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yeah well hes a kid

edgy bone
lusty grotto
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11

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gotcha

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duly noted that youre 11

edgy bone
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Wow

brittle owl
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yes, world of warcraft

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it is indeed the game

unkempt hazel
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no way

jagged pier
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youll notice i did

lusty grotto
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im entertained 🙂

brittle owl
edgy bone
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I'm always pretty high io on prot warrior

unkempt hazel
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💀

brittle owl
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i've also been in places i'm not appreciated

rain light
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Higher io than me 🙂

lusty grotto
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co-creator of Valhalla Gaming Community lmao

strong forum
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What is this convo even about

brittle owl
rain light
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Sims

edgy bone
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Even though I'm always well above average in io for prot warrior

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But he's acting like I'm a clueless child

strong forum
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Yeah but what is it about

jagged pier
# strong forum What is this convo even about

something something he thinks prot is highest dps tank because it feels like it does more damage, something somthing wont take sims as an answer says sims means nothing somthing somthing hes high io so he knows what hes talking about

strong forum
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Ah yeah nah

ionic fern
jagged pier
brittle owl
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waaaait a second

lusty grotto
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lmao

brittle owl
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since when did this disc allow emotes from other servers

strong forum
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We're evolving

lusty grotto
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they have powers

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beyond our understanding

jagged pier
cedar kite
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Another hamsterwheel content main has hit the sims dont matter accusation

edgy bone
brittle owl
edgy bone
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Y'all are ganging up on me because you're all friends

ionic fern
strong forum
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I ain't ganging up on anybody

cedar kite
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Have u thought that is maybe because you are wrong

edgy bone
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Nomer me and you have had a ton of convos over the years

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About prot

jagged pier
edgy bone
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And they're always productive

brittle owl
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lmao this sounds like an execution jury

strong forum
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Could be

cedar kite
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Crazy concept but high IO doesnt make you be right

strong forum
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Anyway

jagged pier
strong forum
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This convo is cringe

jagged pier
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yes very constructive

edgy bone
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Alright I'm going to bed

jagged pier
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you said it, not me

strong forum
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Sims are for better or worse accurate in the same environment, if you add external factors like burst aoe on certain fights and stuff like that tanks with different dmg profiles will outshine others

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But as it stand right now, pwar is literally middle of the pack

lusty grotto
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its like those people that ignore scientific research

strong forum
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emphasis on right now

brittle owl
strong forum
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We will see after heroic week

rain light
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Trying to say prot out dpses guardian right now is something else though

lusty grotto
strong forum
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Yeah nah that's not a thing

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A good druid will shit on pwar

unkempt hazel
strong forum
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Atleast in raid

unkempt hazel
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if guardian is afk

lusty grotto
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true and real

strong forum
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Most guardians on beta have played the wrong hero tree

brittle owl
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choices made in favourable environment that permits mistakes does not mean data is irrelevant

strong forum
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So yeh

brittle owl
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more so when you reach edge cases where mistakes are punished

strong forum
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Man mael I missed you

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When you coming back

brittle owl
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💋

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never

unkempt hazel
strong forum
brittle owl
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didn't even pay my bougee disc sub

jagged pier
edgy bone
unkempt hazel
ionic fern
brittle owl
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a picture mwahi

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u too old to know these things

unkempt hazel
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U forgor paladin

ionic fern
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Just explain your part @edgy bone , if you feel like people misunderstood the discussion.

rain light
edgy bone
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Mountain King pooping on all other tanks

unkempt hazel
edgy bone
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Because we are the strongest and nothing can stop us

ionic fern
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Aight.

brittle owl
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your feelycraft works for you i take it

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which isn't bad

lusty grotto
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prayge

brittle owl
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but like, don't shove an opinion as fact

ionic fern
strong forum
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Trust in the power of friendship

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Nah but I respect it

brittle owl
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the end is not the journey but the friendship or something

edgy bone
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I engage every pack like this:

strong forum
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Wish I was engaged

edgy bone
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Those walls are what people call high keys

ionic fern
brittle owl
unkempt hazel
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gottem

strong forum
lusty grotto
unkempt hazel
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too old too slow

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unlucky

lusty grotto
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i missed my one chance

unkempt hazel
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its ok ull get em next time

brittle owl
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wow made u slow nim

lusty grotto
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you have no idea

brittle owl
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get reformed, quit to reach your max potential

unkempt hazel
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quit wow, install league

lusty grotto
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ok calm down there

unkempt hazel
lusty grotto
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ill have you know i have 2k hours in dota2

rain light
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I played league for 15 years

unkempt hazel
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brainrotmaxxing

unkempt hazel
brittle owl
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just be a normal perso and play 20 y old games

lusty grotto
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which btw i havent touched in like 5 years

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lol mael

unkempt hazel
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I'm actually mentally ill

lusty grotto
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you want us to be like Yogi

unkempt hazel
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I play ow as well

brittle owl
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YOGI

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he still around?

lusty grotto
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yes he goes by deathray44 now

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cause he "deleted his account because of idk what he said"

brittle owl
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seems yogi enough

lusty grotto
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feel free to search his messages, hes still the same old yogi

brittle owl
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how is the new expac

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fing censor bot

lusty grotto
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so far so good, but we will see once the game really starts

jagged pier
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meh

brittle owl
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prot numbah wan?

unkempt hazel
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I think I saw a drg reference

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peak expac

jagged pier
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kinda hoping the raid gunna do alot cause the dungeons are garbo

brittle owl
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what's a drg and how do you taunt it

jagged pier
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brd raid looks fun

lusty grotto
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drg = floor tank

unkempt hazel
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deep rock galactic silly

lusty grotto
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o

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wrong game

unkempt hazel
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LOL

lusty grotto
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ok im officially going to bed

unkempt hazel
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what about unofficially

brittle owl
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like officially?

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sweet dreams king 💋

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how's your spelling going along @jagged pier

strong forum
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I just got to work

jagged pier
brittle owl
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good things never change

unkempt hazel
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jsut hvae god spieling?

jagged pier
brittle owl
unkempt hazel
jagged pier
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its all about demure now

brittle owl
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i haven't caught that meme yet

unkempt hazel
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is ur tanking demure

jagged pier
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and aura

brittle owl
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my tanking had aura yes

unkempt hazel
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speaking of spelling

jagged pier
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but i feel like having a convo about these things is literally killing my brain cells

strong forum
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I think you meant manure

unkempt hazel
unkempt hazel
jagged pier
unkempt hazel
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luckily for me there's no brain cells left to kill

jagged pier
unkempt hazel
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now the question is

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can i level my pwar b4 reset

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(it took me from start of ea to yesterday to get 1 guy to 80)

jagged pier
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probably

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i believe

jagged gust
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I logged in the moment servers were up, and by the time the first person in my guild was 80, I was level 70.9

unkempt hazel
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huge

jagged pier
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we had 80s before i even logged in

strong forum
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We had people done with leveling before I logged

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Arty had 6 priests done by the time I was level 72

jagged pier
solemn wolf
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You can level Earthen with exploration to 70 in 5 hours

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Then dungeon spam as tank to 80

strong forum
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Oh yeah I ain't saying I had struggles leveling or I was slow

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I just didn't start leveling until Saturday

jagged pier
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yer but arty did 6 in like a day

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it took me 3 days to do 5

strong forum
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Took me like 2hrs each to level the rest of my characters

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Dungeon spam go brr

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And I'm looking to clear normal and HC 4 times this week already lamo

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2 split and 2 Alt runs

jagged pier
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hope the raids good

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and the brd raid too

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as thats around for a patch

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just hope there no uber broken gear from it

coral quartz
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I have just kept my gear at 580, but I read somewhere that the lower tier crests are not going to be able to upgrade m0 /m+ gear is this correct?

jagged pier
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yer weathered as useless on reset

coral quartz
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Ah thanks mate may aswell use em

ionic fern
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I'm lucky to do it once.

jagged pier
strong forum
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3 is confirmed, dunno if I'll join the 4th

brittle owl
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2024 is wild, yogi name change, nikocado confirmed winning

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nomer raiding

jagged pier
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yer wild time

strong forum
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Yeah I licked blood

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Raided with a good guild for 2 months

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Now I want more

ionic fern
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So, who's going to farm m0 every day?

blazing condor
chilly surge
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If my Delve 8s are poo maybe

graceful kite
ionic fern
chilly surge
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Will got 14 keys after rese,t maybe 15

ionic fern
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I'll try to do at least 2 dungeons a day.

graceful kite
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Dungeons are fun as prot so it won't suck

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Might suck on my rsham tho

jagged pier
ionic fern
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Can i just farm that one?

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Until out of keys?

jagged pier
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no clue

graceful kite
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I think bountiful delve disappears for you after one completion

strong forum
#

There are 4 bountiful delves per day

graceful kite
#

I did it on an alt and it became a common delve

strong forum
#

So you can only use a key on those

ionic fern
#

So i can use 4 keys per day?

strong forum
#

Si

graceful kite
#

Yep

jagged pier
#

ye

ionic fern
#

MEaning i only need to do 2 days of Delves.

strong forum
#

Yeah kinda

jagged pier
#

well u need to get to tier 8 first

#

then

strong forum
#

Yeh

graceful kite
#

Is loot guaranteed from bountiful chest btw?

strong forum
#

Uuuuh

#

Think so?

jagged pier
#

i think so but u could get 6 bracers

#

in a row

strong forum
#

Yeah

graceful kite
#

I'm gonna do 0s every day so not a problem

ionic fern
#

So..the play is to spam a non-bountiful easy/fast delve to 8

#

ANd then go bountiful with keys?

graceful kite
#

Did around 130 delves already and it didn't really suck so that would bo fine too

ionic fern
jagged pier
#

brother ew

ionic fern
#

I did..10?

jagged pier
#

WTF

graceful kite
#

I farmed them

jagged pier
#

u need to not play the game so hard youll burn out

graceful kite
#

Needed gold cuz I lost it rolling...

#

I fished 5300+ frostfin tuna dragonflight launch

jagged pier
#

just flip greens to dust

#

or mine and herb

#

its chill and faster

graceful kite
#

I did another thing last 2 days

#

Got like 1.4m gold

#

I'm not doing stuff ingame if it isn't fun

jagged pier
#

but endless delves arent fun

#

they are boring

brittle owl
jagged gust
brittle owl
#

wow economy is rigged

graceful kite
#

Nah it's alright

#

You can do lots of stuff and get gold

jagged gust
#

You have an efficient farm or you getting in to AH shenanigans?

graceful kite
#

Did ah last 2 days, did delves b4

jagged gust
#

ah yeah, I don't have the heart of a grinder, delves got too monotonous too fast

ionic fern
#

I just disenchant my dungeon gear and sell.

graceful kite
#

You can grind mobs, craft and sell your profession crafts, flip stuff, mine herb herb skin, do heroic dungeon with bonus satchel

jagged gust
#

I should drop herb for enchant

graceful kite
#

Yiu could have bought runes a week ago for 1k and sell them today for 2300

hard wolf
#

Hey guys can I ask something will there be any platter profile with the shield/spell blockable spells for S1?

ionic fern
#

Not that i'm aware of.

#

You keep Shield Block up always anyways.

graceful kite
#

You should never drop shield block in combat unless you're exclusively facing casters

jagged gust
#

A spell block WA never occurred to me

jagged pier
#

and it shouldnt just like SR one shouldnt ocure to anyway ither

#

use eyes and brain

molten gorge
#

I dont know... That sounds like a lot of work.

hard wolf
#

well knowing which spells can be deflected its not as easy as using brains but ok

molten gorge
#

With what is and isn't reflectable/spell blockable

proper roost
#

where could the spreadsheet be i wonder

#

perhaps

#

in the pins

#

🙂

molten gorge
#

Seems unlikely

hard wolf
#

yes for this one I am referring to since this info can be imported to platter and you could easily see when to reflect. Thanks guys

molten gorge
#

👍

#

You're welcome King

graceful kite
jagged pier
#

you might not want to reflect that spell tho

#

u might want to reflect a bigger more important spell

#

so your still just gunna have to use brain

#

and eyes

strong forum
#

No not braaaiin

jagged pier
molten gorge
#

make the WA only show the bigger more important spell

#

🤝

#

science

jagged pier
#

so then u just gunna hold SR for them

#

and not use it when u can on other spells?

molten gorge
#

this is the way

#

never use any of your CDs

#

because you might need them later

brittle owl
#

just stun mobs to sync casts 😎

#

reflect everything

jagged pier
#

yer ppl dont do that

#

or complain its too hard

brittle owl
#

hard to be a gangster

molten gorge
graceful kite
#

You should complain that warrior is bad

#

Thats how you get buffs

jagged pier
#

i do all the time

unkempt hazel
molten gorge
brittle owl
#

game playing people instead of people playing the game

#

smh

unkempt hazel
#

ngl

#

I'm alrdy over delves

graceful kite
#

Do them with your friends

unkempt hazel
#

who?

graceful kite
#

People who you manipulate to give you stuff and boost your alts

molten gorge
#

Unrelated, I have a stupid question, so I feel like I saw at some point stuff saying "don't upgrade past 580 yet" but, now notice that the valorstones and weathered crests are just not going to be used next week (maybe this is wrong)? so why am I holding at 580?

graceful kite
#

Why arent valorstones being used?

molten gorge
#

ah so it's just the weathered ones that aren't?

unkempt hazel
#

just dont be me and waste stones on explorer/adventurer stuff for slots I was grinding reps for

graceful kite
#

If it's the same system as df stones will be used all the way up to myth 6

unkempt hazel
#

:/

jagged pier
#

i mean we gunna need stones for the whole expansion

sour basin
#

just go ham with the weathered crests, it makes more sense to upgrade veteran gear than Adventurer

jagged pier
#

but u will get enouhg from doing content

#

weathered become useless on reset

molten gorge
#

mkay

#

tyty

sour basin
#

I would hold some for M0 gear

ionic fern
#

I think people are farming Valorstones and then upgrading with crests and then farming Valorstones agains.

#

I'm too lazy, so i'm just farming to 2k for m0 release.

#

And another 2k for m+ release.

#

So i can upgrade instantly new gear.

unkempt hazel
#

real

#

I too am lazy

ionic fern
#

I got no clue how people are farming them tho. 😂

graceful kite
#

Spamming dungeons

unkempt hazel
#

disgusting

halcyon crystal
#

I farmed 2k on 4 tanks

ionic fern
halcyon crystal
#

Was fun

ionic fern
#

There are people in our guild who got a TON of valorstones, but don't really do dungeons.

graceful kite
#

Dungeons are weird I got dropped inside arakara tonight with only last boss and 1 trash mob before it

ionic fern
#

I'm also farming only Ara-Kara for 50 Valorstones in like..10 minutes.

brittle owl
#

300 / hour

graceful kite
#

I like all the dungeons except meadery

#

So fine random queueing

brittle owl
#

that sounds like a ton to me

unkempt hazel
#

not a fan of priery

brittle owl
#

get a couple thousand in 5 hours

ionic fern
#

Can't farm that much

#

5 HC dungeons a day max.

halcyon crystal
#

I never made it past the first Boss in ara kara

jagged pier
brittle owl
#

hardcap on farming?

jagged pier
#

no

#

its just boring

brittle owl
#

or just brain protect

ionic fern
brittle owl
#

gotchu

unkempt hazel
#

wax?

graceful kite
#

You can get wax above cap

jagged pier
#

so ppl have like 6k stored already

#

to turn in so they dont need farm it later

ionic fern
#

Jeah, but like..farming Wax is slower, no?

jagged pier
#

honestly

graceful kite
#

But above cap

jagged pier
#

not too bad

#

i just do it when mining

ionic fern
#

Jeah,if you're capped out then sure.

#

I only got like 100 wax or something.

graceful kite
#

I farmed wax for storm dust satchels wasnt bad

ionic fern
#

What was it, 10 Valor for 5 wax?

graceful kite
#

You get some nice wax encounters with 3-7wax dropping

halcyon crystal
#

Do we have all tww or the m+ dungeons as m0 next week

ionic fern
graceful kite
#

Is loot in them changed btw

#

Or stays the same

halcyon crystal
#

Thats sick

jagged pier
#

is it?

#

the dungeons are garbo

ionic fern
#

Mists/NW are chill.

rain light
#

What you dont want to do some terrible shadowlands dungeons again?

jagged pier
#

mists was the only dungon i ran in SLs and ive run it so much i dont like it anymore

halcyon crystal
#

Boralus

#

Is my jam

jagged pier
sour basin
graceful kite
jagged pier
#

i mean thats fine and stuff but i just dont get it, just look at all the content they are releasing for the aniversary event, why not just make new dungeons every patch we pay a sub for a reason

#

not to redo the same dungeons ive run 1000s of times

#

already

brittle owl
#

wdym

#

don't u like freehold

jagged pier
#

no

#

its boring

#

and I still cant believe ppl dont know the mechanics

graceful kite
jagged pier
#

that doesnt really track tho

graceful kite
#

It's a trend and it won't turn

jagged pier
#

as m+ wasnt a thing then

graceful kite
#

Releasing old dungeons as m+ isn't as hard as doing new dungeons

jagged pier
#

i know

#

but its boring to do them again

#

as they only started evergreen recently

#

so ive already done them a tone

#

and its not interesting to me

#

its why i prefer the CM system to m+ because it was once and done

#

never have to touch dungeons again

#

like if they made m+ loot only usable in m+ or reduced strength outside etc

#

id be very happy

#

because i wouldnt have to do m+

#

i could just do the content i enjoy

molten gorge
#

Always gonna be a difference of opinion on this, cause for some people it's cool to go back and do the old dungeons

graceful kite
#

Less people did cm than m+

#

So m+ is statistically better

jagged pier
#

more ppl doing because theres power behind it

#

thats whay theres more ppl doing it

molten gorge
#

That's the same with the raids tho?

#

If it gave zero upgrade

brittle owl
#

rehashing old dungeons is a good strategy for newcomers

molten gorge
#

Less people would do it

jagged pier
#

exactly

graceful kite
#

Doing things for power is the main mmo gameplay

jagged pier
#

but u get new raids every patch

#

to prog and play

#

u dont with dungeons

molten gorge
#

True of any RPG content really, you do the things that make your char more powerful ennit

jagged pier
#

ive already run the new expansion dungeons too many times

molten gorge
#

Ya fair, I get you

brittle owl
#

sucks for most "older" players

molten gorge
#

But then, once you get your m+ items you can stop

jagged pier
#

yer im aware im a miniority with a lot of things

molten gorge
#

Like after progress is over

#

You don't need to do m+

jagged pier
#

yer and i dont

graceful kite
#

I'm an older (kind of) player and I actually dislike raiding a lot now

molten gorge
#

I'm unsure what the beef is then? You mean cause next season you have to do them again?

jagged pier
#

like youll see in here if u stick around ppl with higher io than me will tell me im wrong because i dont push m+

#

and they are wrong all the time but refuse to listen

#

because i dont push

#

all because i dont enjoy doing it

molten gorge
#

Idk, sounds like cope noob

#

Nice rio score

brittle owl
#

metagamers will always metagame

molten gorge
#

😏

graceful kite
#

Who cares

brittle owl
#

these discords are made by people who care

molten gorge
#

That's crazy cause I've actually never been wrong

brittle owl
#

about their hobby

strong forum
#

I've never died in world of warcraft

jagged pier
#

because its annoying when im here to help and teach ppl and they disagree with me for hours, then nome come in and says the same thing and they instantly switch

brittle owl
#

their hobby is dissecting a random thing in a video game

jagged pier
#

i really enjoying helping ppl improve, its annoying when ppl dont listen

molten gorge
#

Mfw I can't add reactions on this cursed discord 😭

brittle owl
#

and here comes johnny twitter poster with opinions traded as facts

graceful kite
#

But how does existence of people who are ignorant affect it

strong forum
#

I would lie if I said it wasn't one of the reasons

jagged pier
#

yer but i dont want to push just because

strong forum
#

Yeah absolutely

molten gorge
#

Extremely based reason to play the game

strong forum
#

It helped that the season was just my fav dungeons

jagged pier
#

i would happily join a higher guild but i just dont have the time nowadays

strong forum
#

See what I did was just get depression!

#

That gives you alot of time

jagged pier
molten gorge
#

Even out parsing the competition on depression

#

I respect it

strong forum
#

That's the way

#

Onliparse

#

I'm so excited to raid again you don't even know

#

First time in like a month that I can parse again

molten gorge
#

Dopamine 🙏

jagged pier
#

i already know i wont be parsing as im not playing somthing im ultra good at anymore

#

i can just be a mechanics bitch which i enjoy more

strong forum
#

I need those golds

jagged pier
#

i know im never getting golds as dps

#

i just havent spent enough time in the specs

#

pinks maybe

#

but gold nah no way

graceful kite
jagged pier
#

nah

#

im warrior or ele sham

#

but i dont mind just going to do mechanics anyway

#

or saving cds for adds etc

#

ppl care to much about parsing which i understand

#

but id rather just kill boss

graceful kite
#

It's a weird choice of class to do mechanics

jagged pier
#

and i may have spent a lot of time on warrior but literally 99.9% of time ive been prot

jagged pier
#

we already had like 3 hunters

graceful kite
#

I was kind of a mechanics melee guy but I was on dk

#

Was alright

pastel summit
#

and because it was very "one and done" people jsut did what they needed to finish it and go back to their usual activities

graceful kite
#

one and done doesn't keep people paying

pastel summit
#

Ye, true. I do miss the sort of gearlessness of it, though, as well as the nice cosmetics.

limber kraken
#

Guys crit vs vers ratio for m+ pls

jagged gust
#

being an elitist about gear is what made me fall in love with this game

pastel summit
#

I mean there was still the gear aspect it just wasn't as, uh, direct I guess at least for non-tanks.

mellow quartz
cerulean tusk
# limber kraken Guys crit vs vers ratio for m+ pls

Vers = crit, is so close you don't think about it. Just be opportunist. One got avoidance? Take that.

If you play demo, there is some more value in crit to reset Demo. So guess you can prio crit more then

jagged pier
#

follow the sim

cerulean tusk
#

Sim actually fixed
?

jagged pier
#

our ST works fine

#

and thats all u generally need anyway

cerulean tusk
#

Hey, time to go sim

#

Will be fun to see how crit Vs versa does as demo. Gonna try to remember to check when I get home

strong forum
#

They always worked

#

The clown who said they weren't was just simming like an idiot

jagged pier
#

dont talk about the aoe on tho

cerulean tusk
#

I trust you as far as I can throw ya danderson

jagged pier
#

🤫

strong forum
#

Aoe is also fine

#

It's more realistic

#

Than just pure pad without dmg intake

jagged pier
#

didnt u say it was 70% accurate the other day thinkBaguette

strong forum
#

Que?

#

Can't recall saying that

jagged pier
#

nah i mis read

#

u were just saying it not perfect

strong forum
#

I said that I 70% dont care to make it perfect

#

Ye

jagged pier
#

and u 70% dont care to fix it

#

i mean agree

#

u dont need anything but ST

violet ginkgo
# strong forum Aoe is also fine

Speaking of AOE I forgot I have to ask this.

I encounter situation like this a lot apparently because we got a lot of reset on SS.
So the situation is I shield slam, then the shield slam make TC into thunderblast and the auto attack reset the shield slam, so with SS and TB ready now do I

  1. Shield Slam and then Thunderblast which potentially reset the SS
  2. Just sent the TB first.
cerulean tusk
#

I play demo tho

#

AoE is all i want

strong forum
#

And outburst

#

Avatar ready in a gcd or not

violet ginkgo
#

Target count still 5 + and outburst still far

#

avatar not ready

mellow quartz
#

Most AOE situations are fake and are ST situations with padding.

strong forum
#

^^^

#

This

#

I'd prolly send SS there

#

SS > TB > SS

#

Cuz you might get a 2nd TB proc

#

Or you might get a double SS proc off of that TB

violet ginkgo
#

Alright then 👍
I assume if avatar ready then TB first then avatar to give 2x more TB?

strong forum
#

Nah

#

Also depends on outburst

#

But holding avatar is never the play just to get an TB out to "not waste it"

#

I'd SS > ip + avatar > TB

violet ginkgo
#

well then unless it's on outburst situation just send the SS first when both SS and TB ready?

strong forum
#

It would be more raw dmg to send TB and the rage isn't much less, but TB can reset SS

#

So probably send SS yes

#

Always get that button rolling

#

Pwar is all about SS

#

Unless you're colossus

#

Then you pray your cds can cover rage gen while you keep spamming revenge

#

It's pretty hard to consider all the if's and but's when it comes to TB vs SS

cerulean tusk
#

Just send TB, it more pretty

violet ginkgo
#

Hmmm speaking of colossus I haven't try run with it at dungeon, I probably tried some later then just for fun.

strong forum
#

It's pretty satisfying

#

Your dmg just doesn't stop

cerulean tusk
#

It a ton of fun

strong forum
#

Cuz revenge go brrrrrr

cerulean tusk
#

Demo go blam

#

Kinda wish that demo was fyr'alath tho. So we could funnel

lusty grotto
#

i dont

cerulean tusk
#

Ya don't wanna be meta, ya hipster rat

lusty grotto
#

uhh

#

wat

strong forum
#

Ooh that's what you mean with demo

#

Demolish...

#

I was like what does demonology or demo shout have to do with it

lusty grotto
#

i feel demolish is fine as it is, channeled spells on melee are doggy

strong forum
#

Nah its not

#

It's like a 90° frontal around the main target

lusty grotto
#

preferrably would be better if it was insta cast

strong forum
#

It can whiff aoe turbo easy

#

And the animation is too small

cerulean tusk
#

Turbo ez when ya da tank? Huh

molten gorge
#

Feels weird that it's conal honestly

#

Like isn't the animation you smashing the ground

jagged pier
#

not to mention the few mechcnics that knock u back and cancel it

lusty grotto
#

yeah i guess thats a whole nother thing though nome

strong forum
jagged pier
#

even tho some otheres dont

strong forum
#

They don't stack on the same pixel

#

Mobs always fan out around you

cerulean tusk
molten gorge
#

Just pull one pack at a time

#

🙂

tribal wharf
#

if i ever quit wow again, just put illidan back in the game

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strong forum
#

Yeah just don't pull 8 packs at once

cerulean tusk
#

Just have em train after you, and they chuuchuu into it

tribal wharf
#

this game has that dudes voice actor, and this is 2017 bfa come out 2018, between that game and bfa launch i saw the illidan deletes naaru with eye beam and that voice, was all i needed to come back to wow

cerulean tusk
#

(illidan is coming back)

strong forum
#

You're saying that like I'm not trying to play around the fact

#

And yes illidan is coming back

#

Probably in 12.0

cerulean tusk
#

You speak like you dont ratge

tribal wharf
#

i hope hes angrier than ever and ready to kill demons

#

he is a demon hunter after all

jagged pier
#

metzen literally said he was coming back

strong forum
#

I'm merely explaining how the mechanic works

jagged pier
cerulean tusk
#

The cinematic gonna be hype

strong forum
strong forum
jagged pier
#

nah he gunna be good now im guessing because we going aginst the void

strong forum
#

Naaah

#

Mindcontrolled

#

By xal

#

His biggest fear

jagged pier
#

i wish i was controlled by Xal

cerulean tusk
#

Aight I am out

#

Freaking Prot mains

jagged pier
#

im not prot main

unkempt hazel
#

sarg will be our new bff

cerulean tusk
#

You are now

unkempt hazel
#

just u watch

tribal wharf
#

i would rather see it that illidan absorbs the power of the sword as it gets broken open, like while sarg is trying to retrieve the sword (presumably part of his power), and illidan gets buffed and sacrifices him self to kill sarg

jagged pier
strong forum
#

The sword is sealed

#

Thats what all of legion was about

#

Or dried out or w/e

jagged pier
#

cant believe we went like 10 years with even mentioning the sword in the story

strong forum
#

It's what's beneath the sword

cerulean tusk
#

That would be azeroth

tribal wharf
#

illidan is a DEMON HUNTER and sarg is like pretty much his #1 target to kill,

strong forum
#

So metzen could cook

unkempt hazel
lusty grotto
#

clearly whats beneath the sword is 8 dungeons and 4 zones

tribal wharf
#

way i figure it, he is going to study the blade, and figure out the magics it uses

jagged pier
#

metzen wasnt even hired then

#

or working for bliz

#

they just fucked it up

strong forum
#

Exactly

jagged pier
strong forum
#

That's why he could cook

tribal wharf
#

cuz its not like the sword is being protected, at least, not by sentient forces

unkempt hazel
#

actually the sword was behind everything all along, it was controlling sarg

tribal wharf
#

its just got a gate around it

jagged pier
#

member in BFA when they said it wasnt a big bad and we werent gunna join together at the end

#

i member

strong forum
#

Ah yes

#

They also said we'd knew who'd be the bad guy in DF from the start

jagged pier