Is the increased armor at all relevant?
#protection
potent quarry
Not trying to minmax just kinda curious. They are very cool so I'll probably be swapping anyways
strong forum
theyre basically the worst dwarf race out there in terms of player power
but theyre large so
thats a win in my book
potent quarry
Large + Colossus I'm here for it
lusty grotto
wym afm
it capture prefectly what i was going for
captured
im never gonna understand why drug stores have fucking apps and they still robo call you
looking at you walgreens and cvs
wild hamlet
Can anyone point me in the direction of the best way to increase my gear level? I’m at 571 at the moment
lusty grotto
upgrade your shit to 4/8
zealous goblet
outta curiosity
zealous goblet
how many cooldowns do y'all track with weakauras? literally all of them?
lusty grotto
should be left of the bank
zealous goblet
i've been wondering if i should start uncluttering my weak aura a little, for example i'm pretty sure i don't end up in situations too often where i need to know the second taunt is off cd
shy socket
how do we feel about Tome of Light's Devotion?
lusty grotto
its good
because of the dmg
the tooltip does a good job of hiding the offensiveness of the trinket
which makes it great
shy socket
im using sacbrood and signet of priory atm
it sims higher than tomb, but ive heard its good
shy socket
true true
zealous goblet
oh yeah also i wanted to share something i found out by testing out of boredom
not sure how many warriors know this, but you can skip the dynamite stun rp in that kobold dungeon by heroic leaping
i also do an additional jump after i leap out of habit, but not sure if that impacts if you skip the stun or not. pretty sure it's just the leap
proper roost
yuge
wild hamlet
upgrade your shit to 4/8
Where do I get the shit to upgrade? So my current 571 comes from upgrading various bits of gear already
dusky canopy
Moms spaghetti
lusty grotto
so just get 4/8 with valorstones, i mentioned where you needed to go
facing the bank, house on the left
lusty grotto
what you have is the best source of gear
wild hamlet
Also best way to farm valorstones I suppose
dusky canopy
Crafted
strong forum
fuckin hell, d4 s6 is 8th october already
proper roost
doing M+ keys where someone gets an io upgrade
strong forum
💀
hollow sphinx
do we already upgrade gear with vailor points?
strong forum
until 580 it only costs valor puntos
which you can and should do
îf its adventure track gear
mellow quartz
I am fairly certain weathered crests have no function in 7 days time so might as well use em
strong forum
well yeah u use your weathered crests to craft 590s
mellow quartz
603 from your 14 delves keys is 3/8 Champion track and 593 from m0 is 4/8 veteran track and neither uses the weathered ones
proper roost
just be in RWF guild nome
strong forum
and you still use your weathereds to craft 590s
proper roost
how hard could it be
mellow quartz
Need carved for the 1 step of the delve gear
hollow sphinx
where do i get weathered crests
strong forum
everywhere
dusky canopy
Yes that’s why you craft 590s with weathered it makes the delves, M0s, and normal raid easier
Inb4 “m0 world tour 590+”
mellow quartz
Start a group yourself. Won’t be much harder than heroics
mellow quartz
You are 580 and make a group titled 600+ is definitely the way to go day 1
dusky canopy
Aware!
mellow quartz
Why not. Get someone else to carry haha
strong forum
before people will come with 590/600+ requirements
mellow quartz
In the days after reset people will run m0’s like they do heroics now
waxen frigate
update on keybinds
mellow quartz
We were like 587 testing +6’s on beta
waxen frigate
@shell fox
mellow quartz
M0’s are a cakewalk
zealous goblet
hey guys i was wondering if its too late to get into the expansion i manually rewrite and translate bibles and have 89 kids
strong forum
yeah better wait for midnight tbh
if you missed first week of pre-season its kinda over, no way to recover
cinder python
it's too late to level the necessary pets for pet battles
hollow sphinx
well yeah u use your weathered crests to craft 590s
is there a list what to craft prem0
strong forum
blue crafted items without spark and enchanted weathere crest
and whatever stats you want
hollow sphinx
well when i open the "crafting NPC" it says 515-590 - but i cant do 590, because the quality is not listed.
lusty grotto
you cant put quality in public orders
find a crafter in tradechat, and hope you get 1 that can guarantee a tier 5 with concentration
then send a personal order to them with what they charge
gl
lusty grotto
sudden fractal
hey guys i was wondering if its too late to get into the expansion i manually re...
Kids is played out, but that Bible bit was funny
keen leaf
@lusty grotto I think I remember you saying it awhile back, how much is the value from the earthen armor racial, if u know
lusty grotto
cant recall
mortal garden
Now that earthen is available... will they be a good tank race with that bonus armor?
mortal garden
haha so not a good racial passive i guess
lusty grotto
its fine
the only race that will potentially shake the Dwarf/NE dynasty is Drakthyr
other than that, play what you like the most
if you like earthen, play earthen
race racials dont really matter at all other than in extreme ends of content
fresh cradle
Anyone have a pre-season bis list? Got removed from the icy-veins site, all other classes kept it tho
fresh cradle
Do you mind elaborate
warm plinth
Dracthyr racials gonna get nuked from orbit when other class get added
lusty grotto
probably ghash
fresh cradle
It was nice to see which dungeons to farm for specific pieces, that why im interested
warm plinth
Having a preseason bis list is like having a level 74 bis list. It's pointless.
lusty grotto
open the dungeon journal
fresh cradle
easier to open a site, instead of looking through it all my self
cerulean vessel
Just run a heroic droptimizer
warm plinth
There you go
lusty grotto
that works
fresh cradle
Thank you for an answer @cerulean vessel
warm plinth
Findol with that big crinkly brain of his
cerulean vessel
sudden fractal
Like ruffles chips
strong forum
the reason why pre-season bis is irrelevant is 200% a thing this xpac
because a) you can craft pretty much every single slot preseason to 590 with whatever stats you want
b) you replace preseason bis literally by ANY season content item
the only reason to farm it rn is just because theres nothing else to do or to make your life 3% easier on season launch
rigid hull
i hate mastery on prot war
who tf came up with it
like im gathering gear for prot war and im thinkin id play fury someday
and i cant get stats for both
astral crystal
Someone post their earthen
rigid hull
thats too bad cause mastery is good
why is it last stat prio tho
lusty grotto
being last prio doesnt mean avoid it
its just slightly worse than the others, thats it
empty spindle
is there a spell reflect/blockable google doc
lusty grotto
in the faq
empty spindle
thank you
errant leaf
kind glen
Revenge does. Press that shit, it's fun
covert nova
Do we know if earthen can block during their charged racial ability?
covert nova
Noted
lusty grotto
that also includes no parries and no dodges
but parries are the only one there that we're concerned about
aside from block
vague abyss
is its appropiate for prot?
lusty grotto
5t patchwork, 1.5 min or 1min
vague abyss
5t patchwork, 1.5 min or 1min
sorry im a bit new into raidbots, and i was just realizing i was doing calculations on just the 1 boss patchwerk which isnt not exactly what we do in M+s xD
how i put that into raidbots? 5 patchwork bosses?
night citrus
blessed with feverflare today
night citrus
crit vers and not gonna upgrade them that far anyway
tribal wharf
fair, but they have a higher ilvl cap overall
tribal wharf
im valormaxxing ya lol
lusty grotto
crit vers and not gonna upgrade them that far anyway
ilvl > all
yogi (deathray44) is 100% correct
tribal wharf
yep, what im trying to say is i agree with him but ultimately its not the true path
lusty grotto
and his vet piece is a better upgrade
night citrus
i mean if you want to grind renown to get gear that is replaced by m0 that is your choice
just saying if i upgrade both of those shoulders to 590 id rather have haste mast, and im not wasting the higher level crests on the vendor option
tribal wharf
there is a haste mastery helmet 584 veteran in gundargaz
if you are interested in that for 2600 resonances
waxen quarry
idk what else to do except farm for these pieces
night citrus
does it take renown?
tropic tangle
farm xmog, do profs, etc
waxen quarry
yeah its renown
mighty valley
level renown, level an alt, watch a movie, play a sport, call your mom
tribal wharf
vague abyss
just saying if i upgrade both of those shoulders to 590 id rather have haste mas...
while i agree with that, is not like you have to spend crest again if you find a better item, you just pay a reduced price of valorstones, right?
tribal wharf
earthen loading screen is sick
vague abyss
that said, im also valormaxxing, all my gear to 580, and renown to 584
vague abyss
im going to wait until all the stuff in week 1 drops (t8 delves, raid, weeklies, some m0) before deciding to upgrade stuff
tribal wharf
im thinking about chaning warrior to an earthen
night citrus
dont do it
vague abyss
im a vulpera warrior, we are bis already /s
tribal wharf
ehhhhh see what happens
so, probably not, because he will have finesse, which is gathering
im already too far into 2 production professions
seems like it would be best for paladin
somethings gettin turned into earthen, thats all i know for sure
valid sleet
Can we not leap charge anymore or am i just dumb?
toxic pewter
nope not dumb, during beta they made it so when you leap theres a gcd literally only for charge until you land. You can still shield charge.. lol
I reported it during beta as feedback but no one else seemed to care except for me when i mentioned it in here and in the wow forums warr topic too
lusty grotto
arator
quasi pivot
im going to wait until all the stuff in week 1 drops (t8 delves, raid, weeklies,...
Yeah I'm just upgrading to 4/8 adv using valorstones that would have overcapped anyway.
lusty grotto
alleria and turalyon's son
they are probably giving him a new model cause hes a half elf like the arathi in hallowfall
pallid quiver
we better be killing him for his loot, then
cerulean tusk
Half elf allied race confirmed? 
pallid quiver
I also hope they have an updated version of the purple version of the set
vague abyss
holy damn, looking into the enchants and they are asking 20k for a wepaon enchant, and the cheap one at that
pallid quiver
I mean, they're robots first off, and they haven't died yet or anything to be raised as undead if they were living
I'd have preferred to have been a DK Earthen, being completely honest, but I understand why it's a no go
tribal wharf
my paladin is a complete blank slate so maybe that, lots of my other classes have unique newer races
so, i'd have to wait for the race change sale again, buy bunch on discount
pallid quiver
Honestly, if Horde had the Earthen dorfs from the start, I would never have been a cow
cerulean tusk
holy damn, looking into the enchants and they are asking 20k for a wepaon enchan...
Just buy the cheap ones for 300g, 1 star Vers proc thingies
pallid quiver
but I was Horde, so I played a cow
I'm also not changing, just because I'm invested in my character as a character I play
and being a cow's part of that identity
cerulean tusk
With domination magic, the crown, now gone - there won't be anymore DKs 
pallid quiver
Just buy the cheap ones for 300g, 1 star Vers proc thingies
Or be like me and mooch off your friend who is levelling enchanting for whatever they give you
cerulean tusk
tribal wharf
los stamina and radial multi target stun and iconic game and life transcending image of a "tank" person
bull in china shop, goes the expression
pallid quiver
I still thematically like how DKs work a non-zero amount; I like spell blade kinda packages a non-zero amount, discounting paladin type things which I'm generally less down on
so do it blizz, make DKs again, kill the rock people tomorrow kthx
cerulean tusk
But rock ppl can't be turned to DKs, as there is no domination magic
waxen cradle
how are earthen comparing to the other dwarven races as comparing ?
urban portal
regular dwarf is too strong
pallid quiver
But rock ppl can't be turned to DKs, as there is no domination magic
They can bring it back
tribal wharf
but i like to play illegal bdk talents and i only really know how to do the icy spiky build for dk dps, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too stupid to play UH
pallid quiver
It may not make sense, it may not fit, but they can bring it back. Blizz can do whatever they want since they create the story
tribal wharf
unholy is totally and utterly beyond my comprehension
cerulean tusk
They can bring it back
Return of the Jailer, epicboogaloo 12 step 12D plan reborn
pallid quiver
up until some fan goes off the fucking wall and goes crazy
tribal wharf
even tried to get a life long dk to explain to me, never made sense
pallid quiver
Return of the Jailer, epicboogaloo 12 step 12D plan reborn
It's all done so he can lose weight
All sugars, gone.
tribal wharf
i am not capable of play unholy lol
cerulean tusk
oblique falcon
Has anyone crafted a piece already or are all of you waiti g for 2h to be opened up?
pallid quiver
I'm waiting to craft anything at all until like, Mythic week at the earliest
bleak breach
I crafted bracers already
oblique falcon
Was thinking of bracers to, since they are kinda bis. Just not sure
bleak breach
Can always change the embellishment if there is a change to what we use
I’d hold your 2nd spark though
pallid quiver
inb4 bracers get nerfed to be a performance loss compared to no bracers
bleak breach
Then I will just craft a different item
No biggy
The only way they could do that is to make the embellishment scale with better items, which I can’t see happening anyway so it will be fine.
cerulean tusk
You say that
But they do love to murder items
Or opop buff otherw
Kinda at random
bleak breach
It could never be a loss over a plain set of bracers, worst case I will craft a different piece of armour over my bracers with 3rd spark.
I’m holding 2nd spark until raid launch
heady bramble
is there a preseason bis list anywhere
heady bramble
thanks 🙏🏻
lusty grotto
Sokraxx
the "preseason bis" shit was removed
from both sites
see here #protection message
the only one thats up is the actual season bis
as to why
its been an ongoing conversation for the entire day
loud patrol
Half elf allied race confirmed? <:Hydrate:690891013350228028>
we can fuck elves confirmed?
heady bramble
running a prot as an alt was tryna fuck aroudn and get him kinda geared
aight thanks for the explanation 🙏🏻
tribal wharf
i do 100% need to lvl an alt tho that has mining for sure and something else
will just delete it off dk
pallid quiver
I can procure some
tribal wharf
(thats legit the story, kid in his shed fuckin around with science shit, then one day fbi and hazmat swats him)
whatever the hell that is
way beyond my engineering
loud patrol
oh the kid that made thenuclear reactor in his shed?
tribal wharf
ya
and he was going door to door collecting smoke detectors cuz they had trace amounts of the chemical he wanted
parents didnt know or give a fuck, and he was one of those types of kids so it got out of hand fast
lusty grotto
fbi, know that im not complicit in the shit deathray44 is talking about right now
in fact i have no idea
loud patrol
didnt the gov had to bury the entire town in sand?
heady bramble
loud patrol
cuz of the amount of radiation
lusty grotto
also, i understand the dangers of a kid messing with nuclear shit, signed, nimchip
tribal wharf
nvm 2007
proper roost
fbi, know that im not complicit in the shit deathray44 is talking about right no...
fbi, I am complicit in what deathray44 is talking about, whatever it is
🫡
tribal wharf
im building a nuclear bomb (in command and conquer)
proper roost
not only am I complicit I am responsible!!!
tribal wharf
thats a lie, that games not even open
proper roost
whoops it's too late to back out now
lusty grotto
lol
ancient reef
batwww
pallid quiver
Yeah, we're puttin' those wizards in their place
Welcome to the real world, jackasses
waxen frigate
Welcome to the real world, jackasses
proud dock
is the severed threads rep harstuck 9 for anyone else?
i only see rep gains for one of the three sub factions
tidal glacier
See pins/wowhead
Thank you
toxic valley
i only see rep gains for one of the three sub factions
When a sub faction hits a new rank, you get 2500 rep with servered threads, giving you a severed threads renown
proud dock
When a sub faction hits a new rank, you get 2500 rep with servered threads, givi...
oh gotcha thank you
olive zenith
yoo, is there a reason why no spec takes Fight through the flames talent, the one with the 6% DR on magical damage, especialyl since prot warr struggles the most with magical damagE?
lusty grotto
because we dont struggle with magical damage
since DF
more specifically since the introduction of spell block and spell reflect lasting its full duration with magic DR
as well as dstance
anyone that says otherwise is hard stuck in pre-DF WoW
5% dr ONLY available in dstance is simply NOT worth the talent point
urban bane
yeah. it isnt that much extra dr moreover. kinda trap talent
olive zenith
makes sense, thanks
onyx hearth
I played all the tanks except BDK and by far prot is the tankiest. I fell immortal with this shit, praying so they don't nerf it
lusty grotto
they wont
if anything we'll need damage buffs when tier hits
cause the other tanks will smoke us
also just to be clear, "feels tankier" doesnt mean much
especially if you play the other tanks incorrectly
so far bear and vdh feel just as tanky
proud dock
prot warr only fun tank periodt
lusty grotto
🤷
ive only been playing prot since vanilla
as a main
but the other tanks are more than fine
onyx hearth
not paladin
lusty grotto
except prot pally
onyx hearth
bear is ok too, VDH is kinda meh
lusty grotto
feels fine to me
onyx hearth
paladin is the worst
lusty grotto
and im playing fel scarred
lusty grotto
if you consider garbage beautiful, then sure
onyx hearth
https://tenor.com/view/paladin-tarisland-mmorpg-wow-gif-14709812064127310619
Isn't this banned in this discord?
lusty grotto
why would it be
most prot pallies just leave after a while anyway
out of touch boomers, coming from a boomer myself
soft tusk
LMAO
proud dock
are the earthen racials a bit better than dwarf for tanking? looks like theres a dps one and bonus armr
lusty grotto
no
proud dock
stone form OP
round cliff
vulpera bis prot war
grizzled nova
paladin is the worst
templar prot has been reasonably enjoyable, gonna scale extremely well with gear, still has bis utility
naive panther
anyone running around heroic dungeons running demolish? Kind of fun, but either heroic talents doing lots of damage, just feels more smooth with thunder blast build. 720k dps overall pretty consistently
with either build though can't tell what's outputting more
lusty grotto
we have the numbers and have had them since beta
the difference between MT and col is around 20k on M+ builds
with MT being the winner
ST is the opposite
14k for col
but thats going full out damage
bronze pasture
anyone running around heroic dungeons running demolish? Kind of fun, but either...
yeah I play exclusively colosus
i'm not really a thunderclap spam enjoyer and I like the size increase 🙂
naive panther
It's fun busting the huge numbers with it, just feels like I have way less rage. But having fun with it so far
lusty grotto
spoiler: its not colossus
bronze pasture
yeah I'm sure I won't be able to do high keys as a colossus 😄
naive panther
Nah I figured that
bronze pasture
Nah I figured that
play what's fun for you, I'm willing to bet the choice won't make a difference even at title level keys
lusty grotto
oh it will
bronze pasture
if you're a player that's capable of getting title, you can get it with colosus
and if you're not, MT won't help you either
lusty grotto
doubtful
but possible with enough gear
obviously
if youve been paying attention
bronze pasture
i mean everyone will have max gear anyway
onyx hearth
templar prot has been reasonably enjoyable, gonna scale extremely well with gear...
Is already hard to survive with lightsmith, with templar should be way squishier
lusty grotto
see how gambit didnt have the 20% damage added in beta
so... yeah those 2 arent gonna make it anywhere near close as DF
or any other past season for that matter
ionic fern
bear is ok too, VDH is kinda meh
Bear is a snoozefest.
proud dock
whewn small avatar procs, is it OK to override that with actual big avatar (assume big avatar came off CD during small avatar)?
lusty grotto
sure
proud dock
ok cool
floral wharf
Haste> Critical>versa>mastery right? for prot
lusty grotto
ideally you dont want to but
since its pretty random
ILVL >>>> haste > crit >= vers > mastery
floral wharf
cool
dense cradle
If I don’t have a care in the world for tankiness what other trinket do I play for max damage in 5 mans
sac or?
lusty grotto
sim
droptimizer
5t patchwerk 1.5min or 1 min for AOE/M+
1t patchwerk 3 mins for ST
paper coral
That earthen armor racial, how decent is that for us? I’m currently a Tauren. I can’t math atm.
paper coral
Well, yeah, but I’m not alliance.
paper coral
I kind of like how they look in armor, that’s all.
ionic fern
Listen, the most important thing about Earthen is that they are tall dwarves and mogable as hell.
lusty grotto
and so is the relevant content 😉
paper coral
I’m not in a guild, it’s just what I already had. I’m not good enough to have what race I pick actually matter, I was just wondering how it stacked up.
dense cradle
they nerfed direct damage trinkets didnt they
or said the were going to at the end of df
for tanks
lusty grotto
that change has been live since mid summer
paper coral
Listen, the most important thing about Earthen is that they are tall dwarves and...
Yeah, I’m considering them for mog. I do like the big boi tauren for my warrior, but dwarves are a good solid time.
paper coral
I wanted fucking vykrul.
dense cradle
Better asking what horde race doesnt ruin shoe mogs
paper coral
I still want it.
dense cradle
Yeah but then you're playing an orc
lusty grotto
vulpera nightborne maghar
paper coral
I like the orcs when they stand still but I can’t handle the male orc walk animation.
loud patrol
they feel weird
im seriously thinking of a race change into human
or blood elves
the human of the horde
onyx hearth
orc is the base warrior
loud patrol
that too
round bronze
Gnome warrior is the way
cold surge
Kul tiran, only real choice.
round bronze
Gnome escape artist has been super useful in dungeons for me. Lots of mechanics I can dispel with kt
It
ionic fern
Does this look right
Considering it's HC and stuff dies stupid fast, probably.
ionic fern
Gnome escape artist has been super useful in dungeons for me. Lots of mechanics ...
Just Dwarf.
ionic fern
😒
What's the signet looking trinket even.
W/e that is, probably use Ara-Kara instead of that.
jagged pier
ionic fern
YEs.
honest hare
I have Ara Kara Egg Sac atm with the Mug trinket from first boss of Mead Brewery 🤔
fickle coyote
Orator's Larynx pumps quite abit, especially if it lines up with 4 or 5 stacks of the strength buff
opal forum
so, do we finally have some sort of hint about what might end up being meta in m+
or still not
opal forum
😦
ionic fern
so, do we finally have some sort of hint about what might end up being meta in m...
Out of curiosity, why does it matter to you?
opal forum
I just like playing the stronger ones, might sound dumb for you, but its just a game and thats how i like playing it. I mean i wont play DH or Pal cuz i hate it and if war is among the top ill play it. But even if I dont do any content that require the perfect setup, i still enjoy feeling a lil stronger
and honestly as pug, it helps playing the right spec
ionic fern
Mm, okay.
Don't you think you would "feel stronger" if you mastered the class?
opal forum
yes, but as far as war go, every time theres something about the class that im trying to understand more, i come here for some info, or i look at the wowhead
i would say that my bigger problems are mechanicaly
and like, its just a game for me
urban portal
Tank just has much more skill ceiling than dps
So there’s actually a reason to master it
opal forum
thats also why i play prot war when its strong even if not the best
but my question is because of the last 2 seasons
it dosent matter
in pugs
above 23+
if ur not a DH, good luck being invited
im trying to know if we are gonna see something like this again
honestly, i think last season, i could go at least 2keys higher then my war, playing a DH and having no clues what im doing at all
i might be wrong, that just how i see it
also, im not consistent with the game, i often stop the game for a year or more
ionic fern
im trying to know if we are gonna see something like this again
If you want to re-roll to fotm, then you need to wait until some famous streamer says "THIS CLASS IS FOTM".
Which is not happening before M+ starts.
ionic fern
From the "tier lists" i've seen, people are ranking prot warrior high, but for all the wrong reasons.
opal forum
thats what i saw too, what is your personnal opinion
ionic fern
Not much, no.
ionic fern
Nothing comes close to my high APM prot warrior.
I'm playing bear atm in HC dungeons and it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO boring.
ionic fern
It also depends on which DPS will become meta.
If it's a caster meta, then VDH will still be stronk.
opal forum
thats what im scared the most
i feel like the biggest question is, are we going to play with an aug or not
aug will force the caster comp most likely if meta i think
dense cradle
do i swap one of em for ara kara
get honeybee from cindermead
its uncapped aoe every 1.5mins
dense cradle
it has mainstat
strong forum
Yeh but aoe dmg trinkets are kinda w/e
strong forum
The full 1m? Oh you mean million
strong forum
I thought you meant minute and was like gad damn subway surfer
Only trinket that matters getting right now is tome of lights devotion
As that one can/is real powerful for raid
strong forum
Presumably 100% uptime
It depends on the boss or not
But if it's just melees then yeah you will have turbo uptime on it
strong forum
Yeah but that gets heavily outclassed by s1 trinkets
For pulls that last longer than 10seconds
dense cradle
its just memey true
strong forum
Tome won't get outclassed in raid
dense cradle
is tome just defensive or
dense cradle
lmao
jagged pier
it good
jagged pier
ara ara and tome
strong forum
Larynx also goes hard
jagged pier
yer but i like the extra haste tbh
strong forum
Also helps to have 17k crit
dense cradle
oh was eyeing that one too
strong forum
Full buffed im sitting at over 30% crit already
Also colossus buffs trinket dmg
So yeh
strong forum
It's really fucking good
jagged pier
good pfp
strong forum
Ikr
round cliff
u like earthen?
minor nova
am I being stupid or is there no easy way to get gear early expansion
I wanna tank some dungeons while levelling but cant seem to find a shield anywhere?
all the stuff in the auction house says "requires level 70" but as soon as I buy it and get it the level requirment is suddenly 80?
round cliff
by early expansion do u mean like
strong forum
Yeah I like earthen
round cliff
before lvl 80
minor nova
yea
strong forum
Yeah you just use what the world throws at you
round cliff
once u hit 80 u just buy the cheapest ilvl 560 boes to get into heroics
minor nova
i need it to throw me a shield
strong forum
Okay well there you can try to find some greens on the AH to get started
Or a grey if you're really low level
round cliff
Yeah I like earthen
cant decide if the food racial is tragic or not yet
but i like their aesthetic
strong forum
Ain't tragic enough to pass up being a big ass dwarf
round cliff
jumbo shrimp
round cliff
wtf they huge
strong forum
This is with avatar active but still
strong forum
You're literally an entire head taller than a normal dwarf even by default
round cliff
part of me wants to make an earthen but idk what class id wanna make it
earthen warrior wont replace my orc warrior
enh shaman is currently in shambles rn so no shaman
strong forum
No?
strong forum
Stormbringer is absolutely BANGING
round cliff
stormbringer is COOL but totemic is DEMON SPAWN
strong forum
Cuz totemic is designed for resto
And enha just happen to also get it
Same as thane is designed for pwar but fury happen to also get it
round cliff
plus i kinda am getting used to being able to swap tank for dungeons and world content ngl
but maybe ur right
strong forum
Enha is turbo fun
round cliff
also i hear elementalist is better than storm again n that makes me a little sad
strong forum
It's resto that isn't as fun cuz I made the mistake of playing pres
Elementalist was always better
Storm is just rng casino spec
round cliff
i LOVE doing tank dps when i get bad luck and im NOT joking
strong forum
They're the best at doing sub tank dps
round cliff
sub tank dps???
wtf happened to boomkin
i remember in shadowlands when they were cracked and ive never updated my opinion since
round cliff
real
also if i make an earthen shaman i feel like titanwrought frame is just a wasted racial even if its not that impactful
strong forum
They roll bamkin cuz they keep hearing how op they are, then suck at doing dmg, die to everything and don't use utility
Only bamkin that I've played with that did dmg was loutus
round cliff
guardian druid looks super tight rn w/ druid of the claw being good on both guardian and feral but im worried that the second i invest any time into druid boomkin will be op again
and i refuse to ever play boomkin cuz i hate wizards
or nothing
round cliff
also why im conflicted on guardian/feral in the first place
if ur given moon magic but use it as an excuse to maul shit as a bear? maybe disqualifies u from wizard status
i respect it at least
strong forum
Same as enha
Oh yeah I couldjust be in the back and be free from danger
Or I could bash your face in up close and personal
round cliff
im biased towards shamanism because im an orc nationalist
so id never play ele but it gets a bit of a pass
which is also why if i ever leveled one of my shamans itd just be the orc one instead of an earthen prob...
any class i have interest in either can be an orc, or cant be an earthen
lofty warren
i keep DCing while in dungeon a lot of times during boss fights. how to fix?
all my shizz is updated
safe quartz
so you think you disconnect because of addons?
what would you do if addons are disconnecting you
maybe disable them or something
lofty warren
but idk which one is causing it
stoic pilot
went earthen today as well, absolutely goated race
strong forum
stoic pilot
heritage armor is pretty nice too, didn’t like it on wowheads preview but it looks good ingame
thorny stone
man tome is ultrabusted, i made a weakaura to track if im in sword mode and its usually on my top5 sources of damage
strong forum
Yah im tracking the modes and the dmg procs
To highlight, just to see it for fun (and for stream)
shy python
Click on the yellow triangle
hollow dove
How likely is it that the wrist/belt craft recommendation actually changes in the first 2-4 weeks of raiding? Not meaning the embellishments but just those two slots spefically
shy python
Sort buffs? That's not possible.
Use Weakauras for that
jagged pier
^^
rigid hull
no bshout @jagged pier
jagged pier
u need to track an hour long buff?
jagged pier
well if u die u knwo to press it again
shy python
Or make a Weakaura which yells at you if you don‘t have battleshout
blazing condor
thats why you get the tmw to tell you its not on you
shell fox
jagged pier
50/50 chance
u get it or u dont
just wait for wrath remix
or for them to add a skip in like with soo
strong forum
account sharing
graceful cobalt
hi guys one question we play now with
jagged pier
nope thats not the build we play
graceful cobalt
or even with in m+
jagged pier
yep that one looks better
graceful cobalt
someone have the macro for avatar+spear? didn´t find it again here
are these stats ok? didn´t got that much versa
graceful cobalt
thx a lot
daring sable
Can someoen explain to me how i craft a shield without screwing it up?
fluid widget
Can someoen explain to me how i craft a shield without screwing it up?
You don’t use a spark
graceful cobalt
actually i can´t got more haste if it doesn´t drop^^
daring sable
You don’t use a spark
im a returning player and the craftign system is confusing af
graceful cobalt
and mastery is only on 1 peace my belt didn´t got another until now
crimson furnace
guys, are we crafting anything 606?
fluid widget
im a returning player and the craftign system is confusing af
So when you do the crafting request, it lets you put in other things to enhance the results. It may be embellishments but also sparks determine the outcoming piece. You don’t want to use one of those sparks. Your goal is to make a shield using an enchanted weathered crest harbinger crest
jagged pier
Can someoen explain to me how i craft a shield without screwing it up?
u craft a 590 one
fluid widget
Back/bracer/belt/boots are the lowest budget pieces of gear but I’d wait until embellishments are tested and balanced
waxen frigate
are these stats ok? didn´t got that much versa
Right now stat %s are completely irrelevant
But generally speaking crit/haste are our pref
strong forum
guys, are we crafting anything 606?
I ain't, im holding until mythic week
What you can do though is craft spark on alts to get stone discounts
daring sable
So when you do the crafting request, it lets you put in other things to enhance ...
ok and what am i using the sparks for?
zenith vigil
fluid widget
ok and what am i using the sparks for?
Embellishments but don’t do it yet or even next week
Embellishments are fancy enhanced pieces of crafted gear
strong forum
And are very likely to be on the tuning table
hollow sphinx
Does it matter which pieces I’m gonna upgrade to 590
jagged pier
no
waxen frigate
^ I’d check exact id
potent anvil
revenges hard in single target
waxen frigate
Played with a prot warr using whirlwind.
You can do that???
potent anvil
Apparently
potent anvil
I'm a filthy ele shaman, so I just zap mobs from range. I just took aggro randomly and wondered why.
jagged pier
no still there in the spell book
broken drum
I personally really like it
karmic plinth
neon elk
We got only last campaign this week or did anything else unlock?
waxen frigate
Not much else this week
jagged pier
do we need distrupting shout in season 1?
If u like it, take it. Its a personal choice. But dont under use your other utility when u have it because thats what 99% of ppl do
rigid hull
If u like it, take it. Its a personal choice. But dont under use your other util...
ITS like i wanna play without bloodsurge
i wanna get used to it xd
im gonna get addicted once i get it
also another question
whats the reason to play colossus
mountain thane feels way tankier
cuz all the rage is going to ignore pain
and u generate more rage
so more ignore pain again
neon elk
Iirc colossus is more dmg at cost of defense and qol
jagged pier
its like 10-20k more
neon elk
Idk, guess u have to try it yourself to see difference and how "worth" it is
covert nova
Just be happy we have 2 viable hero talents
neon elk
Also keep in mind pwarr is one of rather few specs that can play both hero talents, usualy classes have one and the other is dumpster
neon elk
I believe we will see more of it later, when people are fully geared having more haste, and better gear, just runing their weeklies
coral agate
any1 have a colosus build? Cant find any1 on wowhead, at least not for dung/m+, tempted to try it for a bit but have no clue what to pick
jagged pier
u use the colossus punish build
jagged pier
well wowhead is a guide and its not recommened to run colosss in mythic+
but u can always swap like movement speed and secondwind
if u want
for stuns
but then u gunna be even less tanky
which your already giving up by colossus
waxen frigate
Why bother farming a trinket you’ll replace next week anyway
coral agate
well wowhead is a guide and its not recommened to run colosss in mythic+
Yeah this, but i thank you for your input, I might just stay MT tbh, feels rly good so far! 🙂
blazing condor
play what you enjoy : )
remote tusk
is the earthen racial for more armor any good for warrior considering our talents + shield
blazing condor
mic drop
tribal wharf
i can 593 it for valors only
unlocking earthen? you mean for race change gigachad
no am gatherer on warrior and dk is my mining bro, so, rip on nu-dwarf for me lil undecided how good that set is, might do quest
tribal wharf
1 use of 593 larynx
strong forum
larynx scales with how many stacks you had at the time of using it
each stack is a 20% buff
tribal wharf
oh ya, i never really looked fully into how it works
just pull a bunch of dudes and brrr
wowhead only has 1 comment on it and mentions what you say but doesnt say how many stacks max is
it can critical too, which is nice
candle is 37% up time for about 2500 crit or 1250 shared i presume, passive strg
deft sparrow
I have a question regarding the stat priority for Prot warriors. Is it just all in on haste and crit and ignoring mastery and vers or do they come into play at some point.
Just asking because while looking at Wowhead it says that crit and vers are roughly the same but while reading here i recall reading that vers wasn't great for prot and generally ignored.
jagged pier
u want the stats that sims tell u is best
its really that simple
if sims tell u, you need more vers take a vers piece etc etc
deft sparrow
thanks for the reply, i'll try to figure it out more from that then
hard bolt
Can I ask how do you guys min max shield block uptime?
hard bolt
I’m finding situations where I run out of it and it’s still 5s on the CD
It could just be skill issue I’m super new to prot lol
jagged pier
then its likely u are talented wrong or play incorrectly
but we can tell without logs tbh
hard bolt
Okok
jagged pier
if your sending everything on cooldown u shouldnt have an issue tbh
jagged pier
and ss
waxen frigate
then its likely u are talented wrong or play incorrectly
It’s a bit rough if you’ve gotten shit gear and aren’t playing HR right now
But idk if HR is the default on the guides
jagged pier
hence why i said they could be talended wrong
hard bolt
Shield slam on cd?
waxen frigate
Big damage + big rage generation + free
waxen frigate
So I assume ss can extend your shield block ?
With the heavy repercussions talent yes
+1sec per shield slam while block is active
waxen frigate
Until we get enough haste with more gear it’ll be pretty crucial
hard bolt
Could have
waxen frigate
I was lazy and just used my DF s4 build for the most part until I realized
sand condor
hey gang, is cinderbrew stein any good?
jagged pier
not really
grizzled nova
I've been using ITF, dropping bloodsurge for bolster to close the sb gaps, the rage loss is whatever, I'm basically permacapped IP even when pulling entire wings.
proper roost
in heroic dungeons? you don't say?
grizzled nova
Yeah I mean I can spam revenge for monster damage even without losing IP because we have so much rage.
proper roost
jagged pier
well number one that depends if your colossus or thnae
if your thane i hope u are not pressing revenge at all
pretty much
grizzled nova
I mean in 20 target, it's still not bad lol
jagged pier
and even if u are colossus u are still loosing damage because its less avatars because u are spending less rage
proper roost
why is it only prot warrior out of all the tank specs where people have to constantly come in unprompted
to brag about how good they are at heroic dungeons
curious
grizzled nova
We're just talking about it brother, no one is bragging about it.
Quit being a weird egolord.
outer solstice
I think in random hcs you can even go nails instead of bolster, even with Itf
proper roost
yes... the person who is bragging unprompted about their cRaZy IP cap is just talking
everyone else is egolording
grizzled nova
If you aren't trying to max dps in content available why are you even playing, obviously we won't play the same way in m+
You're being a turd.
fallen rock
Prot war big fun. Give us 2 leap charges.
tribal wharf
we dont need to be leapy boys any more
fallen rock
How else am I going to group up 8 packs instantly?
grizzled nova
I produce the most dps with troar and no thunderous words, and 2p armored to the teeth, at that.
proper roost
lol
grizzled nova
Spear's biggest problem rn is just that the aoe is too small, way easier to hit everything on cd with troar.
rain light
give leap 2 charges
jagged pier
How else am I going to group up 8 packs instantly?
u heroic throw charge and los
vocal flame
What is a good entrance ilevel for starting m0 next week? 580?
dusky canopy
564
jagged pier
whatever ilvl u have
vocal flame
ah ok cool ty
chilly brook
Spear's biggest problem rn is just that the aoe is too small, way easier to hit ...
It shouldn’t be that hard
Especially as content gets harder
jagged pier
Spear's biggest problem rn is just that the aoe is too small, way easier to hit ...
your grouping incorrectly then, but it doesnt matter in hcs
dusky canopy
You group them tightly then spear
jagged pier
and u keep saying your doing tones of damage but u havent given an indication of the damage your doing
jagged pier
ppl that play the spec have
vocal flame
you guys combining spear and ravager together or just use them as they are on CD for pulls?
jagged pier
and most of them have got lazy
chilly brook
Except for the fact that you don’t have to stand in it anymore
dusky canopy
Banner take me
jagged pier
you guys combining spear and ravager together or just use them as they are on CD...
u should us everything on cd
chilly brook
Banner take me
Real