that fight malds me out
#protection
tribal wharf
jagged pier
because of tuning since the start of DF i havent crafted anything until spark 3 of the season
pallid quiver
Though crafting a shield can have higher potential value if you're not commonly pushing higher end content like +10s or Mythic raid; if +10s are something you can only sometimes do, and you manage enough crests for a shield, that'll be a big increase for you, probably more than any embels
jagged pier
cause then we are more confident of tuning of emblishments
and u can fill a spot u need
tribal wharf
i have a spark i can create in my bags, but im not crafting it just yet
compact mortar
I haven't really played since S3 DF but I usually ran 22-25s
pallid quiver
But if you have any potential of clearing +10s, crafting a shield will put you back a spark in the long run.
compact mortar
not sure what that equates to after the changes
tribal wharf
its either i have the spark or i have teh 2 halves
pallid quiver
I haven't really played since S3 DF but I usually ran 22-25s
12-15, just -10
jagged pier
keys u dont need to worry about to much in other words
pallid quiver
its either i have the spark or i have teh 2 halves
Combining the spark does take 250 valorstones, so I wouldn't combine them until you plan on crafting, since you use those for upgrading
tropic tangle
But if you have any potential of clearing +10s, crafting a shield will put you b...
that's assuming you pull a shield in vault while spark economy still matters
pallid quiver
And farming valorstones is infinitely more of a bitch than crests because it feels really bad
jagged pier
^^
proper roost
well, tbf, 22-25s in s3 is different from s1 keys too
pug keys always inflate later seasons
pallid quiver
that's assuming you pull a shield in vault while spark economy still matters
You would technically be down a spark still, so that statement's still accurate. Since it's a jewelry piece you may not have been able to patch up or something or an embel for OS if Arms/Fury use different after tuning
compact mortar
I did 20+ in all df seasons so I'll be fine
jagged pier
at least u only need 1 ring and 1 trinket to get the discount now, not in both slots
tribal wharf
i had extreme shield luck so far and looted a
tropic tangle
You would technically be down a spark still, so that statement's still accurate....
true, spark value is higher in the current situation since they're +10 compared to infinitely farmable gear
tribal wharf
its adv tier 5/8 as well, so it can go to like 593
compact mortar
Why Duskthread instead of Dawnthread? Duskthread gives vers but our stat prio says crit is better?
jagged pier
my guess would be because u will ahve less ver so getting it through embleishment is better but u can ask nome
pallid quiver
Crit and Vers are both pretty close; crit generally wins out by being slightly better damage and slightly better defensively from the parry over time, so I would toss my hat onto Jakey's guess as well
compact mortar
because vers is better the less you have of it right?
pallid quiver
We don't hate the lower tier stats; you still want some, but not much
pallid quiver
because vers is better the less you have of it right?
It's more that you get more value from the same amount of stat when adding it to a smaller amount of that stat
Getting a piece of gear with 500 crit/verse will do more for you on the vers side if you have 6000 crit and 500 vers
jagged pier
its just the less of a stat u have the more valuable it gets
spark cedar
How much vers do those embelishments give anyways?
flat bramble
anyone know where is should ask about weak aura fixing ?
jagged pier
because u will get more from less of the stat than adding more of a high stat
pallid quiver
How much vers do those embelishments give anyways?
Last I heard, they should scale with item level, but they're not scaling properly; some embels last I heard were scaling off character level and not item level
compact mortar
okay I think I will just save the spark for now anyways
thanks @jagged pier @pallid quiver
pallid quiver
Personally, I'll probably blow my first spark on a non-embel shield if I don't get one around first vault time since I'm a filthy casual and I don't plan on playing enough to actually get a shield in a reasonable timeframe
but that's tailored to my own play case and is not optimal for most players
mighty valley
yeah… worth noting for most players the order you use your sparks isn’t gonna massively change the content you’re gonna do
tender cove
I was going to craft shield but jakey told me it has to be weapon for that dps. Its out of my hands.
mighty valley
so if ignoring the optimization makes you feel happy, sure, why not
zenith vigil
i had extreme shield luck so far and looted a
Is heroic 584?
pallid quiver
Heroics drop at 571, and can upgrade all the way up to 593
tender cove
Is the campaign quests important? should i do them? 😛
rigid hull
is it time to remove ip ss macro?
cuz clap is prio sometimes
the macro is fucking things up
rigid hull
what if i wanna AOE like 10 targets
and im spamming ignore pain
i guess my issue is
i have 1 ignore pain
i dont have a serpate ignore pain
its only the macro
rigid hull
I see
zenith vigil
Press IP
turbid shuttle
just keep pressing IP
zenith vigil
pallid quiver
ip ss macro?
It's to help you snipe SS resets when you go to press IP
You still have a normal SS bind
ocean totem
just replace ip with ss+ip macro
if ss is available it goes ss+ip, if it isnt its just a normal ip
round cliff
isn't tclap a prio if outburst thunder blast tho
what if i wanna ip in that very specific situation
ig i just clap then ip macro
yea ok
strong forum
you can just send IP between GCDs if you ABSOLUTELY dont want to send SS
but its never harmful to send SS
that macro will help alot more than it initially looks like
ancient reef
got a delve key, do we just save them until we can do the last tier
robust urchin
this is too much damage
wise snow
man im nervous to run reg dungouns...think i just gotta go in and do it
strong forum
you can literally tank those dungeons as a dps
strong forum
as a healer dps and tank
its always a player issue but you can hard carry as either of the roles in those dungeons
you can tank as a dps, outheal everything as a healer
and tank just solos the entire dungeon
wise snow
kk ill step in and seee what happens
in some trash gear as well but thats how i get beter stuff
strong forum
dungeons do literally 0 dmg
strong forum
if you almost know how to press buttons, you will be fine
wise snow
im litteraly cooked alive
strong forum
you are a toaster afterall
wise snow
this is coming from the guy that ius playing DK and went the horse man spec...i was in a cave and got p=issed at the DK following me around
took me 2 minutes to realize it was my summon
strong forum
oh
robust urchin
took me 2 minutes to realize it was my summon
You'll fit right in here bro
rocky loom
hey folks, never played prot (or tanked until last week on dh) but after reading and testing on dummy and a couple dungeon, prot seems lit. Few words of advice for a noob tank, noob warrior and noob prot? (Am reading/have read guides)
strong forum
play around yourself
rocky loom
🤔
strong forum
meaning, if you know you can handle X or cant handle X act accordingly
warm plinth
this is coming from the guy that ius playing DK and went the horse man spec...i ...
Bless your heart
strong forum
ignore what others say, keep your own CC in mind to take care of things
dont try to expect the others to do kicks/CC
thats what i mean with play around yourself mostly
rocky loom
sound, already do that as dps :p
strong forum
beyond that, play aggressive, keep your GCD rolling
use CDs frequently
dont get hit in the back
rocky loom
prot has so many cds
strong forum
and pay attention to what your group is body pulling
especially in normal/hc/m0 dungeons this will happen alot
rocky loom
yeah I definitely need to get that habit, it's been an issue already
I need to get used to this whole sideways running thing
strong forum
assume that your group is really stupid
at all times
that will make you succeed in tanking
rocky loom
as a fellow guide writer, this is thankfully a skill I have acquired 
wise snow
i have tanked a lot in FF14 and its the same deal
im like "i swear i feel like im the only one kicking anything right now"
crystal robin
whats everyone using their spark on ?
strong forum
i raid as arms, so ill craft 2h weapon in 2/3 weeks
rocky loom
im like "i swear i feel like im the only one kicking anything right now"
I've seen a couple ppl claim they macro'd their interrupt to several abilities to gain "passive kick value" while not paying attention
strong forum
robust urchin
I've seen a couple ppl claim they macro'd their interrupt to several abilities t...
Warrior moment
tribal wharf
I cant imagine macroing pummel to anything
wise snow
yeah tht just seems weird
pallid quiver
I've seen a couple ppl claim they macro'd their interrupt to several abilities t...
Please tell me at least one of them was a mage or a Warlock using gosac
It'd be hilarious
warm plinth
GO SAC?
dusky canopy
SAC LARGE
warm plinth
Isn't that what we use to talk
tribal wharf
rain blaze
whats everyone using their spark on ?
valid question sirs
crystal robin
im just going to save it
warm plinth
rain blaze
thats what people are doing
crystal robin
crafted a 590 shield
pallid quiver
ghash, make tka spawn before i need to head out
rain blaze
cus u will get a shield from m+
warm plinth
who?
pallid quiver
The rare mob that drops a quest item that you need to get a mount
warm plinth
shazam, they spawned
pallid quiver
pallid quiver
shazam, they spawned
i was juked
when you said that, a group did pop up
he's not here
warm plinth
rain blaze
crafted a 590 shield
shield may be a good idea later on for haste + vers
no stats on shield in s1 content (
pallid quiver
Shield's most important stat is ilvl
So theoretically, you eventually replace a crafted shield since it's not max ilvl
cosmic dagger
i stupid farmed like 30+runs to ara-kara sac , and then on the end there is a quest with reward ara-kara sac!!!!????
pallid quiver
it's also 554 and not 571 upgradeable to 593
crystal robin
shield may be a good idea later on for haste + vers
crafted 590 with crit+haste, using a missive
rain blaze
So theoretically, you eventually replace a crafted shield since it's not max ilv...
emb then is the only way
cosmic dagger
ah soo you right 😄
rain blaze
crafted 590 with crit+haste, using a missive
dont matter at all
sep 10 u gon replace that rq
warm plinth
@pallid quiver get in fucking voice jesus christ
rain blaze
i guess emb bracers or smt is the move
slow perch
Boys ive collected most bis items from hcs (mainstat etc) and now I want to valorstones farm asap. Whats the best and fastest way?
violet ginkgo
btw what is the current good method to get valorstone? just spam heroic, while seeking loot too?
jagged pier
stormvault
violet ginkgo
stormvault or stonevault?
warm plinth
what the eff is stormvault
mellow quartz
Just need 40 dungeon runs to cap valorstones
slow perch
Whats the fastest dungeon to farm?
slow perch
I am but all fking randos start attacking the 1st pack when I try to do big ones
shrewd ore
rookery is pretty fast
mellow quartz
Mark yourself and leave them to die
shrewd ore
can do like 5 min runs
slow perch
Mark yourself and leave them to die
I do but it slows everything down
Thanks for the ideas tho
mellow quartz
Rookery is 3 bosses so less valorstones
shrewd ore
you get 30 at the last boss tho anyways
so shorter = better
rookery is basically 4 pulls whole dungeon
fluid widget
And has a shield if it would ever drop
shrewd ore
at least in rookery i can feel good about hitting 1 mil overall xdd
slow perch
I’ll do stonevault. I think stonevault trinket is better than rookery trinket aswell
violet ginkgo
but rookery got the nice shield
mellow quartz
We just talk abt valorstones when already geared
slow perch
Yea
violet ginkgo
but in the end if we need valorstone the best source right now is just do the heroic dungeon while seeking loot too, no other way?
shrewd ore
ye hc spam is best
tribal wharf
this neck when lvled up better, but should i equip now at lower ilvl due to no str?
jade panther
at the end of a day grinding valorstone, i come here and read everything for like an hour x)
Btw what should i craft with my spark ? (ahahahaha)
jagged pier
robust urchin
at the end of a day grinding valorstone, i come here and read everything for lik...
Alchemist Stone
lusty grotto
lol you tried jakey
lusty grotto
torn gulch
this neck when lvled up better, but should i equip now at lower ilvl due to no s...
necks and rings do not have main stats anyway
daring sable
which reputation/renown thingy does prot warr want first?
mellow quartz
None
If you want to farm it just one whichever to 24 for the enchanted crest thing
jagged pier
which u want for profs
tribal wharf
hell ya, cant complain now
zenith vigil
Where's that from
tribal wharf
rookery
lusty grotto
no
lusty grotto
and queen
lusty grotto
are you sure about NW
its not encrusted canopic lid is it?
is there a haste one in the season version?
ionic fern
lusty grotto
@warm plinth stewart has competition
also the saturday fishing quest has a stewart-like mog
jagged gust
also the saturday fishing quest has a stewart-like mog
new fishing tourny in tww?
warm plinth
<@255696891000389633> stewart has competition
👀
jagged gust
hot DAMN
I wasnt even gonna log in today
But i saw that garlic knot ages ago and wanted it
jagged gust
you're the best nim
lusty grotto
you have 1 hour to catch 3 special fish
tribal wharf
GIB BELT PLOX
lusty grotto
just like stewart
its identical
except stewart was a rare as fuck drop from island expeditions
which i got by being lucky
warm plinth
new stewart?
lusty grotto
its basically the same
pallid hare
whats the max shield block duration?
lusty grotto
triple its base
tribal wharf
is the purple ghosts mechanic in trash of boss 2 for city always static where teh bad guys is?
pallid hare
ty
opal forum
is there important thing to track with moutain thane? except the usual SB/violent outburst
lusty grotto
TBs i guess
since they cap at 2 charges like SD
its not extremely important to track it though
lusty grotto
sudden death
fluid widget
what ability would you macro a 1.5m offensive trinket (like skarmorak) to? for fury/arms Avatar made sense but our avatar is up a lot more
lusty grotto
so just track it to make sure i dont get any proc wasted
basically
since avatar gives you 2 charges
opal forum
should i do the same with SS with the 3 procs thing
mellow quartz
It’s good to see when you have multiple stacks of both SS and TB. I have my WA set up so I see the stack counts when they are above 1
tribal wharf
fury warrior are everywhere
opal forum
i looked at ur guide and im not fully sure to understand what to do when you have SS up and 2 charges of TB
shrewd ore
what ability would you macro a 1.5m offensive trinket (like skarmorak) to? for f...
I'd still macro it to avatar tbh, i have my larynx macroed to avatar
opal forum
you want to use atleast 1 proc of TB before SS so it wont get wasted is that right?
fluid widget
I'd still macro it to avatar tbh, i have my larynx macroed to avatar
shouldn't you be using Avatar when it comes off cd, not syncing cds for prot?
mellow quartz
Yes, just alternate them if both are maxed
shrewd ore
shouldn't you be using Avatar when it comes off cd, not syncing cds for prot?
yea, but since ur using it so often like every 45 sec u will still mostly sync it with ur trinket
lusty grotto
shouldn't you be using Avatar when it comes off cd, not syncing cds for prot?
correct, macroing most trinkets to avatar is not really optimal
only 1.5 min trinkets
but even then
shrewd ore
and if you see ur trinket cd you can still press ur avatar macro when avatar is on CD to use ur trinket
if it's too hard desynced
but 1.5m you could macro to ravager i guess for perfect uptime
lusty grotto
optimally you shouldnt do either
but, should be fine if you dont care about it
a damage amp phase shows up this season and youll be removing that trinket asap from those
fluid widget
when is it optimal to use Skarmorak Shard (90s cd)?
for direct damage trinkets sure time with amp phases
but for raw stat?
shrewd ore
on cooldown ofc
warm plinth
It'll line up with every ravager/spear so just send it with those
fluid widget
kk. i'll macro it with ravager since even slayer (for fury/arms) still lines up cds
shrewd ore
just make sure that when u get a 2min trinket you remove it again
and either use manually or macro to sth else
shrewd ore
Idk i feel like any cd is fine since ur at most delaying it like 15 sec if ur syncing with avatar
shadow wagon
has anyone ever thought to use spear with the talent that makes fear knockback as a knockoff aoe grip?
shrewd ore
I think spear is too small aoe for that
shadow wagon
it definitely works
shrewd ore
Yea, i just mean from a usefulness standpoint, and feels bad pressing non dmg ability during ur big burst window
lusty grotto
has anyone ever thought to use spear with the talent that makes fear knockback a...
no, we have little to no floater points
and we have enough stops as it is
shadow wagon
it looks kinda sick tho
lusty grotto
it does work yea
tribal wharf
almost completely valor maxxed now
lusty grotto
you would have to drop bounding for it, which might feel bad
shadow wagon
you would have to drop bounding for it, which might feel bad
i just do this rn. can drop second wind or bounding
lusty grotto
we dont play second wind in M+
and youre not taking intervene for some reason
so no storm shield?
i dont think its worth the sacrifice
at all
shadow wagon
stormshield kinda bad no?
lusty grotto
no
shadow wagon
3x armor is like 300k, a little less than 10% hp
lusty grotto
it could be better but its not bad
the alternative is worse
we're not fully geared its week 1
do you think youll have 100k armor during season 1?
warm plinth
@lusty grotto I'm huge
lusty grotto
its fine if youre not gonna push, i guess
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> I'm huge
im around that as well lol
just working on my 2 last sojourners and then ill spam dungeons
and get alts up
surreal kindle
Does shield block have a cap for warrior?
shrewd ore
you mean duration?
shrewd ore
3x base, so 24 secs
shrewd ore
ya
vague abyss
oh where i can see this in details, or how to use it better to see where the damage spikes are?
tribal wharf
just a death recap
mighty valley
could you have reflected one of these
tribal wharf
when you die, it will say "you died" in chat, click it to see resu lts
well, the issue is more that without the boss, he only does like, 300-400k fireballs
so this threw me off
mighty valley
oh well then
knotty idol
Anyone know of a good weakaura that tells me when to spell reflect? I've only been able to find weakauras that tell me every single spell going out even if they aren't targeting me
tribal wharf
by time i figured it out was too late and i was dead
figure it out hard way for when its a key
barren oar
zenith vigil
But is that for tanks specifically
soft plume
so does mountain thane change literally anything about prot? u still prefer shield slam over thunderclap for single target + for violent outburst?
lusty grotto
so does mountain thane change literally anything about prot? u still prefer shie...
pretty much
outburst TB if 2+ targets
less than SS
soft plume
kk so i see why people say the "hero" talents are lame af lol
soft plume
they coulda turned us into some kinda lightning god even if very very briefly but ya this kinda lame
lusty grotto
but colossus is like legion prot
whereas MT is more like BFA prot, sans TCing every gcd
soft plume
i haven't looked into anything raid related yet, is that hero tree better for single target?
soft plume
good job blizzard
mighty valley
if hero talents were borrowed power they could make them more impactful 😌
lusty grotto
good job blizzard
at least you didnt pay 90 bucks for EA
as long as we're baiting, i gotta bait too
jagged gust
I made more in gold buying ea than if I were to buy gold
lusty grotto
congrats
soft plume
yeah i just recently got on wow again, i saw EA was made to get money from idiots, u just get to level sooner for 40 dollars but still locked out of all meaningful content lmao
jagged gust
yep, all those idiots buying my shit up on the ah
lusty grotto
even if it had meaningful content
jagged gust
love it
mighty valley
it's so win-win for blizz since it eases the server load of everyone mashing login at the same time
jagged gust
Headed, honey we've already docked the boat and unloaded the passengers
lusty grotto
says who
soft plume
i would argue the biggest crime is that you pay a 15 dollar a month subscription but with early access you essentially "cant play the game" for X amount of days that you already paid for with ur sub
lusty grotto
cause FFXIV gives EA to everyone that preorders
not $90 editions
enlighten me Will
babe
lusty grotto
sugarplums
zenith vigil
ligma.
lusty grotto
candice
plush frost
Between champions bulwark and the 2 charges what uptime should I be looking at on shield block?
plush frost
HR?
plush frost
I’ve been sat around 87
jagged gust
yeah combat uptime is tracked funny, you really just wanna be paying attention to your blocked hit rate
plush frost
Didn’t know I could keep track of that I’m enjoying warrior so far though the mobility is amazing XD gonna struggle playing paladin again
jagged gust
in a perfect world you have 100% blocked hit, but we usually wind up taking a few unmitigated while gathering, or those odd mobs that just seem to rotate around you in a perfect circle for no apparent reason
lusty grotto
details limit to combat
but
there are scenarios where youre in combat
and your SB isnt doing shit cause youre not even in melee range
its not buffing your SS because youre not doing attacks
and its not helping you defensively because youre not taking hits
so details tracking can miss a lot
it does give you a general idea
and 87 is right on track to be fine
could be better but youre not doing badly
weve certainly seen way worse
warm plinth
I don't mind people using uptime as a guideline but it's not unusual to have someone come in and be like my uptime is 90%, why am I getting trucked? And then we have them log and they're turning their back to every pack.
plush frost
Na none of that I know why I get trucked been getting so fixated on learning warrior mechanics I forget mobs also have them
It’s being a fun season learning new spec only issue I have now is that every time I que 1st boss is dead and the tank left
lusty grotto
yeah early expansion is fun every time
plush frost
It’s my first one I started a month after fyrak came out it’s been refreshing fumbling around dungeons pulling everything because no one knows what you can skip
lusty grotto
weak pebble
Is there a trinket sim list anywhere? I know revenant isn't anywhere near the top but just wanted to see whereit landed and if it's worth using a lower ilvl
lusty grotto
no, but you can sim
1T patchwerk 3mins/5mins for ST
5Target patchwerk 1.5 and/or 1min for M+/AOE
wet snow
just so I have an idea since its been ages I've played Prot. I know I need to sim my character for stats but how much % haste it starts to feel smoother?
strong whale
how are you guys liking prot so far?
lusty grotto
ilvl > haste > crit >= versa > mastery
as far as the smoother question goes
30% to 40% just around
wet snow
but wouldn't I want to sim for better damage on m+ if/when I get enough survivability?
lusty grotto
keep in mind we usually deal in ratings here
wet snow
alright then
lusty grotto
you just sim for output
wet snow
learned something new 🙂 many thanks
mighty valley
is the stat weights option still up on raidbots with a thousand messages that say "this sucks don't use it"
zealous goblet
i found such a wicked cool weak aura but it's missing like, so many core abilities to track
and when i try to slap them in from other weakauras the font is all off and everything
lusty grotto
is the stat weights option still up on raidbots with a thousand messages that sa...
yes
mighty valley
sounds like it's time to learn...
zealous goblet
i'm not patient enough i know just enough to jerry rig some shit but not enough t osit down and be smart. i'm like that orangutan learning to saw man
inland raft
Weakauras really arent hard to learn its just lua and 99% can be done with the built in trigger and conditions without custom script
inland raft
Ya its fubard
torn gulch
can't buy shit
inland raft
Ive heard auctionator addon helps but i havnt tried
lusty grotto
my suspicion is that its botter related
wet snow
is helping me a bit
inland raft
Its 100% bot related
lusty grotto
lots of botter shops going around scanning what is good etc
inland raft
Happens every expansion but its just worse this time thanks to regional ah
inland raft
Didnt it come later? Idr
lusty grotto
all i know is that it did happen during it so
torn gulch
it did come later
lusty grotto
also cross realm AH isnt for everything
there are specific items that are realm/bg only
did it?
torn gulch
all comodities are regional
lusty grotto
well i stand corrected
hardy snow
Bots are active before relase as well. That didn't change. The only thing changed is that tons of real players are using AH and AH servers are dogshit.
At start of DF there were also issues with AH and moments when AH was fully disabled.
hardy snow
yea, it became cross realm for bulk items in SL
lusty grotto
but having a massive load doesnt take away the fact that botting groups dont contribute massively to it
and probably contribute the majority of load to it
obviously botting groups have always existed so yeah
south sable
i can't believe how bad the ah is
its bad on purpose that way people dont get rich too fast
torn gulch
tinfoil hat off
lusty grotto
thats the most qanon shit ive read all day
south sable
think about it
lusty grotto
no
south sable
u dumb
lusty grotto
if you say so
tribal wharf
well boys
i might not be 100% valor maxxed but i am me maxxed for today
gunna be farming like 3k valor stones if dont stop my self (thinking about doing 2hs and they are 865 to upgrade each), but its like, maybe 1000 total without those
could grab haste cloak, belt, 2nd ring. might fall down rabbit hole of they start dropping with avoidance in different slots
jagged gust
get that haste yogi
tribal wharf
eh, already 19%
jagged gust
speed stat I mean
tribal wharf
leech i think
with crit shit if i can :S
more crit + leech = bigger/ more heals Kappa
jagged gust
The game changes completely with run speed, suddenly you're catching up to mobs a little faster squeezing in an extra gcd, speed stat bis
boreal hamlet
can get that extra execute in
big dam
Also why not wait for M+ top come out
before farming BiS gear
jagged gust
well it's either that or play wukong
boreal hamlet
Yo im upto chapter 5
shit is so fun
BO6 beta is out as well
im just tryna get all heroic gear
for M+
tribal wharf
dont we get access to zeros 3rd?
jagged gust
they fix mmr or w/e activision call it for multiplayer yet? Can't stand yoyoing between going 30-2 in one match to 2-30 in the next
mighty valley
Heroic is the new m0
boreal hamlet
they fix mmr or w/e activision call it for multiplayer yet? Can't stand yoyoing ...
Can't lie it seems fine in the beta
lusty grotto
I pray we get m0 next week
we wont
tribal wharf
yeah but did u ever semtex someone sticky nade then attach to body for final kill cam
lusty grotto
everything is already scheduled
opal forum
m0=old +10 right
tribal wharf
those are the kill cams of legend, the grenade ones
boreal hamlet
waiting a month for Mythic+ is so boring
lusty grotto
m0=old +10 right
yes
mighty valley
no he’s literally correct
lusty grotto
yeah idk what this leaf dude is on about
opal forum
i trust the red name
tribal wharf
i been watching kill cams ever since the very first one in the very first real-ish FPS , wolfenstiend 3d
opal forum
ok thanks
mighty valley
to be specific, doing heroics now is just like doing m0s at the start of df
mighty valley
then we’ll get actual mythic when the season starts
boreal hamlet
Yeah
jagged gust
i dunno about those blue guys
opal forum
the only blue talking here is the one making the icyveins guide
tribal wharf
usually the things nome says are correct
warm plinth
I see orange, I listen to orange
pallid quiver
I listen to orange so I can doubt orange
Because Nome has too much on his plate so he typo
jagged gust
I see orange, I listen to orange
Fellow orange enthusiast
pallid quiver
That reminds me that I need to read up on the new updates to the wowhead guide
tribal wharf
i dunno for alp the belly achers on wow complain andies like asmon i dont really get it
game seems fresh and stable fun
mighty valley
asmon makes money by complaining
opal forum
he's more of an influencer drama alert youtuber rather then a wow youtuber anymore at this point
vague abyss
idk if is because is just heroic dungeons, but healers looks bored af in my runs. Arent they supposed to heal more according to blizzard?
lusty grotto
not in heroic dungeons
opal forum
i think the content is not relevant enough to have an opinion on that yet
lusty grotto
pretty much
pallid quiver
The only time you need to heal as a healer is if people pull full rooms
vague abyss
yeah i guess, too. According to details 75% of my healing is self-healing, the other 25% is the healer
vague abyss
The only time you need to heal as a healer is if people pull full rooms
i dont need people to do that, i do it myself :v
pallid quiver
Correction, not full rooms
Whole sections is more what I meant
pallid quiver
depends on herontalent build
jagged gust
press chain heal and hope for the best?
pallid quiver
You either throw riptides and cleave with o wave or build up chain heals and pump those
I prefer riptides
More mana efficient and more engaging
opal forum
i play the totemic m+ thing, they said to use healing surge and spam totems
vague abyss
i... kinda need another weakauras to remind me to use shield block, it has happened that sometimes im bashing that SS button, IP, thunder slams and all, and realized my SB ran out...
opal forum
most of the time im just spaming chain lightning
vague abyss
oh yeah im having tons of fun with thunder clap spam xD
jagged gust
i... kinda need another weakauras to remind me to use shield block, it has happe...
my suggestion is grab the SB WA and drag it to the middle of your screen until you learn to track it
vague abyss
Oh im using this one instead
the only thing i would change is to add a glow to the SB button if i dont have it active
tribal wharf
heroic dungeons in some sections of some dungeons you can literal pull the entire groups of trash and not die
opal forum
tribal wharf
example the one you start by saving birds pull 1
vague abyss
that delete keybind... is a bit too far away?
opal forum
wich spell
tribal wharf
only for u a warrior using paladin trinket
vague abyss
intimidating shout
tribal wharf
for shame /s
opal forum
its actually shift+one button of my mouse
vague abyss
for trinkets im using those, still working on the azj-kahet one (is worth it?)
pallid quiver
Tirnkets are all kinda poopy atm so we're expecting tuning
opal forum
i just took things that looked tanky
jagged gust
well nothing is worth it, but wax plating is particularly bad
vague abyss
but i mean it looks fine, one gives dakka when hit and the other just adds damage reduction
pallid quiver
The tank trinkets in particular are very bad this time around
vague abyss
oh really? why wax is bad?, ooooh let me guess, the interna cooldown is just bad?
opal forum
i took the wax for the strenght stats
tribal wharf
if ur ui does what it needs to do displays what you want doesnt cover eberything, doesnt matter
pallid quiver
oh really? why wax is bad?, ooooh let me guess, the interna cooldown is just bad...
That's a pitiful amount of damage mit
Like absolutely fucking dreadful to start with
jagged gust
oh really? why wax is bad?, ooooh let me guess, the interna cooldown is just bad...
there's no icd, it's just a negligible amount of DR
vague abyss
well i could just use this then i guess and just upgrade it a bit
tribal wharf
im liking larnyx trinket st
pallid quiver
The other one heals you for like 20k on a chance
Honestly, I would just keep all the trinkets and see what they do
urban portal
pallid quiver
Since as I mentioned, trinkets are pretty poop right now
So there's almost definitely tuning to shake things up soon
opal forum
i have the tome of light and have no idea how the active works
vague abyss
so just use them to get ilvl and thats it basically
tribal wharf
use it on a boss and it does 3 hits x 860k dmg, thats 2.5 m dmg off the rip seems to be huge aggro
pallid quiver
so just use them to get ilvl and thats it basically
You can get free strength 🙂
opal forum
and i have the wax, mostly for the strenght
vague abyss
what about this trinket? (is meh right now because its upgradeable with renown iirc)
but you can add haste and crit to it
tribal wharf
dont over think trinkets like that there yogi guy, hes a real nut about trinkets
just send it
vague abyss
oof, yeah just saw it, dogshit already xD
opal forum
sounds terrible ngl LOL
pallid quiver
Sounds based
vague abyss
For the timebeing i guess ill just spawn heroics until i get all the weathered crests i can get
tribal wharf
proc deal 125k shadow dmg on hit and 10s str
pallid quiver
For the timebeing i guess ill just spawn heroics until i get all the weathered c...
Make sure to watch your valorstones so you don't cap if that gets relevant
tribal wharf
so its got a cd so its prolly really low up time str buf
vague abyss
Make sure to watch your valorstones so you don't cap if that gets relevant
i see that too, im not sure when its best to use them, im still 565* so i can surely use it
but im afraid of wastage
tribal wharf
if i explode on die deal 10 million dmg im never removing it.....
boreal hamlet
idk how people are doing less dmg overall than me in heroics
boreal hamlet
but im afraid of wastage
dont be afraid once season starts
youll haver no use for them
vague abyss
i guess, yeah. Im trying to doing quests and stuff to get the renown gear, im not exactly sure where im getting carved crests though
im too poor to get crafted gear, dont judge me 😦
vague abyss
apparently people really want to use their spark for some reason
tribal wharf
i spent 2k kej to get 1k resonant so i get vet 584 haste mastery helm
pallid quiver
Your best bet for valorstones is
To not use them at all and save them for M Dungo gear or above
Because stones feel fucking terrible to farm for in comparison to crests
tribal wharf
cuz minutes before i had spent 500x3 weapon mogs, didnt have 2600
pallid quiver
i've mostly just spent kej on appearance stuff and severed threads bonuses like the profession table
vague abyss
i made myself a blacksmith and i specced into tools because i didnt really wanted to be spamming trade chat, and those green tools do sell
vague abyss
... i still need to craft those weapn/armors because i cant get past Blacksmith 51 without those lol
tribal wharf
might be fun to run stronger delves
lusty grotto
... i still need to craft those weapn/armors because i cant get past Blacksmith ...
65
you have options until 65
after that youll need spark crafts
or blue tools
vague abyss
so you just stays at 471 ilv?
hmm im only using valorstones on 571+ gear, because 571 is heroics
opal forum
oh ok i see
vague abyss
but yeah i guess i will just use it to not overcap otherwise save
opal forum
so you still go for the 580
vague abyss
im going for renown gear because that is on a veteran item track, and it goes quite up for now
opal forum
any shield/weapons there?
vague abyss
wth is wrong with those items on the auction house that just error out?
they dotn let me buy it
warm plinth
i guess, yeah. Im trying to doing quests and stuff to get the renown gear, im no...
They come from the quest to upgrade a piece of gear and convert crests
vague abyss
They come from the quest to upgrade a piece of gear and convert crests
oh yes i did that quest too, nice to know
warm plinth
I'm not positive but I think they might be one time as well
like not for alts
They had the marker for warband quest which I think is one time right?
opal forum
so is hero the best way to get a good weapon without spending unnecessary things
mighty valley
wth is wrong with those items on the auction house that just error out?
the ah is very laggy recently and it’s probably trying to buy something, then someone else buys it, then it errors out because it can’t find the original
vague abyss
tried to buy the next one, it still bugs out, huh
going to try without auctionator, maybe?
nah it bugs out too even without auctionator, sigh
weary python
What races do you all prefer horde side focusing on m+ when it comes
weary python
Go with most optimal
vague abyss
yeah but i didnt choose them for the racial 😛
vague abyss
fair
lusty grotto
until the very top
and if you are in the very top
you will most certainly NOT pick horde
boreal hamlet
dwarf OT
opal forum
i mean, i remember first season of DF, in ToT, when i was getting around 24+ i was getting destroyed without that dwarf cleanse
lusty grotto
or at the very top, i should say
you mean doggy bleeds
which were totally doable without dwarf
at 24 keylevel at least
opal forum
well i was starting to kite a lil but i would love to have the racial
i did died there a few times tbh lol
and most of the times the healers that i have in those keys just assume i dont need much healing and would let me die
mighty valley
do prevokers ever talent the bleed cleanse
warm plinth
They should, if it's needed
lusty grotto
yes
if you up an 2 hander, it applies to both main hand and offhand
thats why i went with leggo upgrade as my 1st bullion last season
lusty grotto
instead of gholak (which was my 2nd)
it could
but im not sure a lot of us do that
since our dps counterparts pretty much only use 2h
so i wouldnt be able to confirm
crafts dont have
discounts
only valorstone/crest upgrades
you will pay the full price
oh sure
not sure why you would do this but i guess
over just doing a 2h, i mean
lusty grotto
just to be clear im not confirming it works, im just saying that if its your only option, then its worth a try... the game does not have different rules for upgrade discounts based on class - figure out how they do it and it should work in theory
vague abyss
there is something to warn/alert me when there is a tank call to arms for heroic?
i could do it anyways, but meh, free 4k is free 4k xD
lusty grotto
there used to be an addon (or a weakaura) that did that
wise snow
so lets say we pull another mack mid pull
and t clap is on cd
should i just spam some ww
tyo get some threat ont he new pack?
lusty grotto
whirlwind shouldnt be in your bars
wise snow
kk
wise snow
kk
vague abyss
im seeing this more often, we are that good or i just have garbage dps?
warm plinth
both
vague abyss
well thats fair enough xD. Im just wondering if i should let people die, who like to pull more than the tank, you know the ones who seems to want to call the entire room when im busy
prime niche
Is there anything I can do about the APM for Prot?
Like binding ignore pain to thunderclap or something
lusty grotto
no
tropic tangle
press buttons
vague abyss
Like binding ignore pain to thunderclap or something
what i did is make a weakauras to tell me when i have >70 rage, so i just press my mouse button every time i see that weakauras, that is... like 50% of the keypresses lol
opal forum
what i did is make a weakauras to tell me when i have >70 rage, so i just press ...
can you pls show me what the WA looks like?
vague abyss
mountain thane sure makes a lot of rage, i would be overcapping otherwise
opal forum
like, how is it better then looking at ur bar?
vague abyss
can you pls show me what the WA looks like?
uh is a simple one i made myself, just a trigger for rage >70 and "In combat"
opal forum
do you mind sending it so i can try?
vague abyss
i was thinking in using a code block, but idk how discord does it xD
opal forum
just send in DM if you can, would be much appreciated
vague abyss
Done 😄
opal forum
thank you, i know i can do better with my rage so ill see if this helps me
lusty grotto
triple or single `
opal forum
oh yeah i think i like it
lusty grotto
🤷
zenith vigil
is it even worth it to farm gear
warm plinth
It's alright. Kinda depends what it means by "share"
soft tusk
yeah if it splits the "share"
or if everyone has it..
does it mean.. a stackable amount of crit?
vague abyss
found this weakauras:
https://wago.io/CallToArms
For if you want to be warned when there is a call to arms, to get those augmented runes 😄
vague abyss
yep, each time we clear a call of arms we get a bag of spoils which can have up to 4 augment runes, they are selling around 1k now
soft tusk
save them until raid release
warm plinth
Such a silly consumable
soft tusk
and watch the price go up lol
vague abyss
and watch the price go up lol
... i should do that lol
warm plinth
Yeah if you're on a big server especially
Because all the RWF guilds will be buying them
vague abyss
Yeah if you're on a big server especially
isnt AH region wide now?
warm plinth
Or well
Yes and no
FOr "commodities", yes. Not sure if those are considered one or not
vague abyss
well im in area 52 so yeah im big xD
warm plinth
I would assume so but Blizzard makes weird choices sometimes.
But either way, save them for sure
wise snow
its showing me i have -8k stamina in my charcter tab
lusty grotto
are you in a dungeon
wise snow
open worl d
lusty grotto
what level
wise snow
80
wise snow
hallofall
lusty grotto
is it night?
mortal spruce
Hey guys super quick dumb question
Just coming back on war after a couple of years and I just wanted to know what were the ideal uptimes on Shieldblock; ignore pain and Avatar plz ?
lusty grotto
we dont track uptime on IP
pallid quiver
IP uptime depends entirely on the damage profiles coming in, so that's a 100% worthless metric
lusty grotto
avatar uptime we dont track as well, you just send it
pallid quiver
Shield Block you should aim for 100% effective uptime, so blocking every hit that can be blocked, and Avatar uptime when sent ends up around 60% iirc?
lusty grotto
hard to say
vague abyss
mountain thane also triggers avatar iirc right?
vague abyss
the dude of the rookery dont wanna drop his shield t.t
soft tusk
Your first spark should be a shield
soft tusk
what should it be then?
lusty grotto
your first spark should be in your bags
lusty grotto
read the pins
pallid quiver
Optimally, an embel once they get tuned
soft tusk
What does "tuning" mean?
pallid quiver
Buffa/Nerfs/Adjustments
soft tusk
and u can just recraft it?
lusty grotto
you cant recraft it into another slot
pallid quiver
When things get tuned, it means their numbers get adjusted to hit relevant metrics/made to work properly
lusty grotto
if you crafted week 1, youre absolutely fucked for 2 weeks
soft tusk
yeah but if tuning means higher ilevel u can just recraft it to a higher ilevel
pallid quiver
So if something is overperforming, tuning means it gets nerfed, and underperforming means it gets nerfed
that's not at.all what tuning means as i just explained
Tuning is blue text
The shit everyone bitches about in the forums every time it comes up
Because they feel wronged everytime Blizzard brings parity between options
mortal spruce
yeah so IP doesn't really matter, should be 100%
Shieldblock also close to 100%
And Avatar just click on it but there is not " goal " to achieve
opal forum
IP is just what you dump ur rage on
pallid quiver
yeah so IP doesn't really matter, should be 100%
It can be 100%, it can be 10%; it entirely depends on the damage profile of the encounter and dungeon
vague abyss
avatar is used on cooldown, i guess in every new pack
lusty grotto
the only 2 goals of prot is to have good SB uptime and manage rage effectively, everything else falls in-line
opal forum
violent outburst management too i guess
wise snow
i need to get better at pressing shield block
lusty grotto
while doing those 2
pallid quiver
If you only get hit for a big fuck you spike every four minutes and take no damage otherwise, you have 100% uptime. If you get hit for your IP absorb amount every three seconds, your uptime is gonna look like shit even if playing well
mortal spruce
Yeah a lot of changed has changed since BFA okay haha 😄
Thank you guys
mortal spruce
I use to havea lot of attention on those uptimes backthere
vague abyss
violent outburst management too i guess
i get why is that important, but i feel im using mostly on claps on aoe and in SS on a boss
lusty grotto
we didnt look at IP uptime then
opal forum
well it is not optimal
vague abyss
probably better usage, but the high APM already costs mental power on me xD
mortal spruce
Ok mb I must be rly tired then
Use tu think IP was a lower uptime then Shieldblock, sorry mate
opal forum
should always be SS unless extreme amount of mob, or TB on 2+ target
pallid quiver
i get why is that important, but i feel im using mostly on claps on aoe and in S...
Outburst on claps in aoe is a survival loss, as a note; it's only even a damage gain at 8 enemies.
lusty grotto
in BFA? yes it was lower uptime
vague abyss
Outburst on claps in aoe is a survival loss, as a note; it's only even a damage ...
Oh i see, will keep this in mind then
lusty grotto
but we didnt specifically look at its own uptime
vague abyss
i need a bigger WA for outburst then xD
lusty grotto
it was still a rage dump
pallid quiver
Note that Blast is different than claps in this note, because blast generates more rage than base clap
lusty grotto
can we stop saying uptime
mortal spruce
Okok mb, then I use to stree myself too much with it back in the day * is the correct sentence 😄
opal forum
i just deactivated most thing on luxthos except violent outburst tracker
mortal spruce
Okay I won't pay too much attention to it then
vague abyss
i just deactivated most thing on luxthos except violent outburst tracker
i... should do that too lol
mortal spruce
can we stop saying uptime
I'm so sorry 🙏
soft tusk
588.63 but just got this? lol interesting
gilded tendonBOT
🧦
lusty grotto
eyir sucks
gilded tendonBOT
fuk u @lusty grotto
robust urchin
can we stop saying uptime
Yeah we should say updog instead
jagged gust
whats updog
lusty grotto
dn
mortal brook
what is dn???
lusty grotto
yo steve
ruby void
I really wish we just had a choice node between regular intimidating shout with cacophonous roar baked in and menace. Call it menacing shout, idk. Ugh. 😒
Instead of 2 points invested
lusty grotto
thats the 2nd person to mention those dumb as fuck talents today
i wonder which youtuber is talking about them
ruby void
Idk, I was just glancing over the tree.
soft tusk
@lusty grotto can you explain to me the importance of IP uptime?
jagged gust
I'm still petitioning to have Crackling Thunder apply to Champion's Spear
lusty grotto
ill explain the importance of the uptime of my fist on your face
soft tusk
On a serious note
lusty grotto
opal forum
just send it on CD
soft tusk
but it's not right? I shouldn't hold it and pair it with avatar right?
opal forum
on CD like most other things
jagged gust
Demo shout and avatar both have CDR modifiers
so holding them is always a mistake
over time
jagged gust
There are times you will hold it, like if it's the last possible instance you can apply to a raid boss you might want to hold to line up CDs where otherwise the CDR is meaningless
but yeah you're a warrior, dont think
just press shiny button
opal forum
keep ur shield up, manage rage, know what to press during violent outburst
thats pretty much the whole spec
simple drum
When should you enter D stance? And what’s the priority on your major defensive cooldowns, and what order would you cast them?
lusty grotto
whenever high damage is about to come out
wall is 1st prio since AM resets it (and impenetrable wall)
after that, spell block if its on the sheet and is spell blockable, otherwise SR for the 25% dr (if magical)
and d stance if needed
soft tusk
SR?
mighty valley
hmm, i noticed you ended the last message with "dn." if you wouldn't mind, may I enquire as to what you meant by DN
silver raptor
lusty grotto
clearly dragon necropolis
i kid of course, we're in warrior disc
refer to Dreadnaught, an Arms talent
opal forum
tender cove
how much dps does battle stance actually provide?
strong forum
About 2-3%
tender cove
Ye, think im just gonna play def stance until i do content where my dps actually matters. 16% is kinda a lot compared to 2-3%
tall rover
what is the best item & embellishment to spend the first on ?
fresh pilot
So do you guys think Warrior will get nerfed?
pallid quiver
why would it
lusty grotto
if anything we will need a buff when tier comes out
pallid quiver
We're middle of the pack damage wise, and caster comps have been looking stronger than melee
fresh pilot
Maybe when tiers come out. Damage just feels very high.
strong forum
So do you guys think Warrior will get nerfed?
our dmg is very frontloaded with CDs
in low end content you pull 3-8 packs at one
and packs die in 10 seconds
fresh pilot
https://i.imgur.com/Px6tudI.png
How do you like demolish vs. Thane?